The Truth About Angels and Demons: Part 2 (With Greg Laurie)

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Pastor Greg Laurie

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@greglaurie 3 жыл бұрын

Download a FREE e-book I wrote ALL about Angels and Demons right here! harvest.org/resources/ebook/angels-and-demons/

@joshualuntsford 3 жыл бұрын

that story about your snakes. And your mom jumping out of the car was really funny. Love you church. Love you Jesus. God bless. Side note. Greg that shirt is bangin

@joanbarrett7266 3 жыл бұрын

When we are born God gives every human being an Angle to guide us through our lives and that very same Angle brings us to Heaven

@lynnbulwinkle2304 3 жыл бұрын

Greg, you are the greatest pastor that I've ever had the pleasure of listening to. You have taught me so much. I thank the Lord for you. I ask Him to bless you, your family, and your ministry abundantly.

@jumpingfan5423 3 жыл бұрын

What bible are you using?

@michaelcookson2111 3 жыл бұрын

Every morning I listen to at least an hour of Pastor Laurie, it’s helped my attitude, outlook on life, everything. Can I just get a hallelujah for this man?? Bless you!

@tonybasoni8443 3 жыл бұрын

MC,....You can get some truth about this man,....He has nothing to do with God, he is a wolf in sheeps clothing. Do not be deceived by him and all the others just like him.

@michaelcookson2111 3 жыл бұрын

@@tonybasoni8443 how so? What’s your basis for saying this?

@tonybasoni8443 3 жыл бұрын

@@michaelcookson2111 ,.....Good question. First one must understand that the entire church is apostate. All the churches preachers/teachers are ungodly phonys. They have nothing to do with God/Jesus or any Biblical truth. Everything they preach and teach is Biblically incorrect. So, that being the sad state of affairs,....then without even hearing this man preach it is already known that he will preach falsely as he would never be allowed to speak in a church if he preached Biblical truth. Then by listening to him for just a couple minutes, it is easily seen that he has no idea what he is talking about, and is teaching everything totally incorrectly. The only people that are deceived by all these 100% false preachers are those that do not belong to Jesus. Those that belong to Jesus are not deceived by these fakes. Only the blind can be led by these blind guides. Please throw out everything you think you know, all the unbiblical nonsense the church and all its phony preachers have indoctrinated you with, and read the Bible yourself without any outside influence from anyone from any church. Let The Holy Spirit teach you the truth of Gods world, and stop letting the blind, lost, and deceived men of the Godless world teach (indoctrinate) you.

@michaelcookson2111 3 жыл бұрын

@@tonybasoni8443 I’m obviously missing some rather big pieces here. I still do not understand what he has said that would be considered against the word of God? I do not belong to a church, I have a few people that I speak with about questions and thoughts but am sincerely just trying to read the Bible and understand it for myself and my young family as to lead them as the man of the house.

@tonybasoni8443 3 жыл бұрын

@@michaelcookson2111 ,......Everything he says is against the truth of the Bible. He does not understand the Bible and cannot understand it. The Bible is only understood by those that belong to Jesus. Those Jesus makes spiritually alive. The spiritually dead cannot understand the Bible, but they think they can and get everything wrong just as all the churches preachers/teachers do. The Bible is a spiritual book and is only understood spiritually by the spiritually alive. It is a book of parables, and God wrote it in parables so no one but the spiritually alive can understand it. Those that belong to him. These are not in, or of any church. Only the spiritually dead are snared into all the churches. The church is of the Godless world, it is not of God. Just read the Bible yourself. If it is Gods will for you to understand, then you will be shown the truth. You will never get any Biblical truth from any church or anyone from any church. You will only be deceived by the church and those snared into it. The truth of Gods word is only found in Gods word, and only comes from the Holy Spirit revealing that truth to you.

@michaelford1602 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this word. I struggle with never ending guilt. Even for sins I have asked for forgiveness for on many occasions! This message brought conviction and accusations! It’s truly a blessing! Thank you pastor and God for this word!

@Pawsforthought222 Жыл бұрын

Michael,l love Jesus too,and want to encourage you that.... "there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ,& live according to his Word". We all sin,so keep confessing,& repenting,knowing that you needn't feel guilty. I'm in the UK,& am so grateful for these talks. God bless you ☺️🙏

@charlottemilam2733 Жыл бұрын

You have been set free of your sins. Claim it.

@jeremiahkirby6552 3 жыл бұрын

If you're in pain you're not alone. If it seems like the world is crushing you you're not alone. If you've wasted ten years you're not alone. If your future is uncertain you're not alone. If you're thinking of killing yourself you're not alone. If nothing seems to work out you're not alone. If you're at your limit and you're ready to throw in the towel you're not alone. When you're alone you're NOT ALONE! If you relate to anything I just wrote you're not alone. I'm right here with you and so is God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit. Everyday is ONE day closer. One day closer. Lord Jesus! Psalm 23:4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me. Psalm 27:1 The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid? Deuteronomy 31:6 Be strong and of a good courage, fear not, nor be afraid of them: for the Lord thy God, he it is that doth go with thee; he will not fail thee, nor forsake thee. Hebrews 13:5 Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.

@mariapappano8471 3 жыл бұрын

God bless you, Jeremiah! Your words are always such a blessing for me!

@pastorprincejoseph2075 3 жыл бұрын

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@jilltilghman3027 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for that reminder! GOD BLESS YOU!!

@Raaadome 3 жыл бұрын

@@jilltilghman3027 amen

@CH33BO_OFFICIAL 3 жыл бұрын

thankyou

@lynndee2644 3 жыл бұрын

God Bless You! God Bless All of Us! Surgery in the morning...Good night...

@barrett5540 3 жыл бұрын

God be with you as you undergo surgery & recover smoothly, in Jesus name I pray for you Lynn Dee.

@Raaadome 3 жыл бұрын

Lynn Dee God bless I lift you up to our lord and ask for healing and strength I hope you are feeling comfortable 🙏❤️

@williamkilduff6998 3 жыл бұрын

Good luck 👍 God will be watching over you,

@osminnavarro2044 3 жыл бұрын

Father in heaven lord Jesus i pray this person. Wake up new in Jesus name I pray amen.

@nettaford2279 3 жыл бұрын

I pray you have a complete speedy recovery 🙏❤🤗

@donaldsavage3699 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Pastor Greg for all of your important sermons read from the word of God!

@Noffee3 3 жыл бұрын

I love Jesus are lord are savior

@pastorprincejoseph2075 3 жыл бұрын

@barrett5540 3 жыл бұрын

Pastor Greg, I so appreciate your clear & relatable way of teaching The Word of God. Having The Holy Spirit living on the inside is so wonderful! He convicted me of my sins. As I see myself, immediately repent & follow Jesus with a contrite heart, HE IS FAITHFUL to forgive. HE is Amazing in His Love even when I do not deserve HIS LOVE. All I can say is: I LOVE YOU LORD. I NEED YOU LORD. THANK YOU LORD. again & again & again & again! I am so thankful to have Brother Greg bring The Word to All who will listen & heed. Bless you Brother!!!!!!!!!!!!🇺🇸🙏

@pastorprincejoseph2075 3 жыл бұрын

@phyllisweaver8911 3 жыл бұрын

Thank You Pastor Greg. God spoke a powerful message through you🙂🙂🙂

@jilltilghman3027 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for becoming a pastor. You have blessed my life so much. You teach the whole truth of the bible and have such a soothing voice. May God richly bless you. You are an amazing preacher!!!!!!! I thank God for you often...especially when depressed. Your joy lifts me up.

@joshualuntsford 3 жыл бұрын

Amen. Greg is cool as heck

@tonybasoni8443 3 жыл бұрын

JT,.....This guy is a 100% phony. He knows nothing about the truth of God or the truth of the Bible.

$@whatthefrackwillis8704$

@whatthefrackwillis8704 3 жыл бұрын

“Do not answer a fool according to his folly, Lest you also be like him.” Proverbs 26:4 God bless...

@tonybasoni8443 3 жыл бұрын

@@whatthefrackwillis8704 ,.....I have given you all the truth for your edification. If any has ears to hear, they will hear the truth that I spoke.

@lauraowen8142 3 жыл бұрын

@@tonybasoni8443 Let me guess your Jehovah's witness or Mormon or seventh-day Adventist or Christian scientist either way you are not the authority on God.

@conniemagnuson2013 3 жыл бұрын

I appreciate Pastor Greg b/c he preaches & it is ez to grasp & understand. There are many good preachers & motivational speakers but few are as good at evangelism as you are. Reminds me of Billy Graham who is responsible for my own conversion &several others that I know.

@alexgold734 2 жыл бұрын

Praying for my neighbor filled with lots of cash, and destroying homes without using the courage god had blessed him with. Instead of using old wine last and filling everyone up with drunkest may he be blessed by pouring out the best for last!!!

@user-oh9nh6zl2c Жыл бұрын

I really needed to hear this sermon! Praise Jesus! Thank you, Pastor Greg!!!

@kathleenmathis3044 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Pastor Greg. You bring a breath of fresh air even when you are discussing the spiritual battle!!!!

@grassroot011 3 жыл бұрын

Was thinking to myself once about how strong I was in one area, and instantly had a voice in my ear, " I've got something for ya." And I thought, huh, wonder what that is, but I'll handle it. Want on and was punished ads I fell quickly. And was punished for many years after. Relying on my own strength. Dumb.

@gingerdavidson4845 3 жыл бұрын

I love your preaching is exactly what we need sometimes the volume loud enough it could be my phone I don't know love your servants I'll keep watching them no matter thank you Jesus praise your Holy Name Jesus for these preachers

@christinaburcell4112 3 жыл бұрын

Thankyou for preaching the word and relating the word to our lives so we can listen and understand. God bless you teacher for helping me and others grow with the lord Jesus Christ my lord and savior 🙏❤. Holy, Holy is the name of Jesus Christ 🙏❤ Hallelujah! Mighty is the Lord Jesus Christ. God is good and great every day 🙏🙌❤

@tonybasoni8443 3 жыл бұрын

CB,......Sorry, but this guy has preached no truth, Just unbiblical nonsense.

@savannah505 2 жыл бұрын

@@tonybasoni8443 Here you are again working so hard to discredit him, you foolish man.

@tonybasoni8443 2 жыл бұрын

@@savannah505 ,.....I am simply giving you the truth of God and his word as all actual Christians are to do. The problem is, those who do not belong to God hate the truth of God. They are steeped in darkness and deception. When the truth (light) is shined on them, they hate the light (truth) and the bringer of light (truth). and mock and revile him just as your mothers and fathers did to Jesus and his disciples. You, like all those in/of the church are snared into a 100% fake christianity. It is an antichrist christianity. It is a counterfeit version of the real thing. It is a christianity of those in darkness, of the blind, lost, and the deceived. Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand!

@savannah505 2 жыл бұрын

@@tonybasoni8443 Fine Tony, but here's the problem I have with you and what you're saying. I've been there, I've seen myself how Satan works, I've been attacked directly by demons and was around the occult and completely deceived by the angels of light. I know that everything he said here was true and accurate. You've provided nothing of proof to counter those claims. You're so sure that he's deceiving us but your arrogance and pride are standing in the way of the actual truth of what he said. You can believe all you want that what you are saying is right, I'm NOT going to believe you as I know you're wrong. He used scripture to prove this and I haven't heard one thing from all your postings that show me different, no scripture of any kind. Yes there's many if not most TV evangelists that are false, but not this sermon. If you haven't been through the occult and seen it for yourself, then you have no clue as is evident in what you said. God chooses those that He has a special purpose for and Satan knows this. He will attack and try to destroy those that God has chosen. You forget or don't seem to know that Satan is the master of deceit and that includes YOU. There is not a man on earth, past, present, or future that cannot be decieived by Satan and can be used by him to spread false teachings. When you truly understand this, you will start to look in the mirror and judge yourself before you open your mouth to speak. My experiences started when I was 6 by Satan to influence me when I was an adult, the attacks were in a dream that came over and over and then used against me later in my adult life. It was only when I called on Jesus when facing many demons one night that Jesus appeared behind me and took me into His arms and the demons fled. The story is a long one but I lived it and that's the reason I know that what pastor Greg said was true and is accurate. . Start looking in the mirror, be humble to God first and then you will hopefully start to see. Peace to you.

@savannah505 2 жыл бұрын

@@tonybasoni8443 Wow, boy are you in for a big surprise. You will feel so foolish and deceived someday.

@SB-zy1re 2 жыл бұрын

Remember that guy who said that you are a good pastor I think you are a good pastor too.

@vernonconway1469 3 жыл бұрын

Paster Greg I often wonder why God did not completely destroyed Lucier

@lancegreene5261 2 жыл бұрын

Its the way it had to be so when life is over only the saved end up in heaven so God Will never again be threatened to be over thrown for the control of heaven...

@LoneWolf-dv7ul 2 жыл бұрын

I know what my nightmare will be about tonight. SNAKES! Thanks Pastor.

@eugenemoore5749 3 жыл бұрын

I really enjoy your preaching

@grassroot011 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Greg good outline and all encompassing I'd say.

@XXTeamHuman 3 жыл бұрын

Fallen angels and demons are different entities. Genesis 6

@Summer-ho2vu 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for saying this.. this is true.

@e.r.6147 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome sermon

@alexgold734 2 жыл бұрын

Praying for my mom who is going thru slot right now and has no cash, to succeed in her life. I have been trying my hardest to make sure everything is right and done perfectly however, sometimes her friends and especially her neighbors from different nations try to make me bow down to different gods or otherwise force and persecute us. But quests what god loves us 🏣🏣🙂🙂🙂🛑🛑☹💙💙💙❤🤎🤎🧡🤎🤎®️®️🤎🤎🤎🤎🤎🤎🤎💛💛💛💛💛💛💞💞💞🧿🧿🧿

@SB-zy1re 2 жыл бұрын

I pray for good dreams when I have bad ones

@darcyz882 3 жыл бұрын

Thank u very good knowledge of the devil ,and his falling Angel's..

@pilotmom9755 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your clarification on this subject! Actually your clarification on every topic you speak on..".

@silentonall 3 жыл бұрын

Is it the Holy Spirit convicting you of sin? Or the new man in Christ?

@Ron-vv4ie 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent

@pastorprincejoseph2075 3 жыл бұрын

@stephen8433 3 жыл бұрын

Good message.

@nancybarnes4340 3 жыл бұрын

Sermon is good, but really hard to hear

@SB-zy1re 2 жыл бұрын

I'm going to get one of those ebooks.

@markpersson9694 3 жыл бұрын

So I listened to this entire message and not once did I hear the gospel message, that Jesus died on the cross, was buried, and after 3 days rose from the dead. See 1 Corinthians 15:1-4. If you're not preaching the cross of Christ, you're not sharing the gospel.

@rachelkewley2976 Жыл бұрын

It's sad people think they can't step in and support another parent when their child is being unruly. Back in the day people did step in. They didn't do the disciplining but they gently supported the parent with understanding. Or spoke to the child briefly to consider their ways. Sad our society is so bereft of God that adults can no longer support parents and help them discipline correctly.

@ju5t1n3. 3 жыл бұрын

Pastor Greg, you are excellent!! I love the sound effects. Wonderful message!!!

@SB-zy1re 2 жыл бұрын

He sure is.

@grassroot011 3 жыл бұрын

The Bible says sin is like yeast, called Leaven, as if a tiny bit is hidden in a lump of dough, then it grows upon it's self feeding on the lump. We,,, are that "lump."

@sarahmutchler4117 3 жыл бұрын

Praise The Lord!:) We really do enjoy your Program, on You Tube. You do Preach the Truth. In the name of Jesus Christ, Amen. Prayerfully your's, Prophetess Sister Sarah Mutchler!:)🙏🌷🙋💪💃💪🇺🇸🗽🕊️💖

@dereksak9648 2 жыл бұрын

Amen🔥🔥🔥🔥🙏

@SB-zy1re 2 жыл бұрын

Me too

@brianbannon6746 3 жыл бұрын

1 Corinthians 15:3-4

@vickyeverest1352 Жыл бұрын

I have the presentation volume and my computer volume up to the max and can barely hear. Thanks

@ChildOfTheOneTrueAlmightyGod Жыл бұрын

Great teaching usually. I do disagree about fallen angels and demons. Fallen angels are angels and demons are the displaced spirits of the nephilim.

@SB-zy1re 2 жыл бұрын

But when will Jesus come back?

@billcapps1397 3 жыл бұрын

Could audio department be turned up just a little? I've been watching you as far back when you had hair. Love your work, God bless your Ministry.

@donnabaskins7564 3 жыл бұрын

I AGREE

@grassroot011 3 жыл бұрын

Learn how to turn your sound up on your devices, computer.

@tommiesmith3191 3 жыл бұрын

Must be the work of DEMONS...... HELP US ALL... WE'RE GONNA DIE....... HELP US PASTOR GREG!!!!!

@francescadarien-hydellbma7081 2 жыл бұрын

Interesting subject - what I find interesting is that many of those who died, they ceased to exist, as it says in Ezekiel 18.20 - the soul is not immortal, it can and does die. A person can be resurrected to life either on earth or in heaven - Lazarus did not go straight to heaven, he was dead for a few days before Jesus resurrected him back to earth. Why would Jesus have called Lazarus out of heaven - it does not make any sense. When Jesus died, he ceased to exist for 3 days and then he was resurrected by God Yahweh onto earth and then he lived on earth for a further 40 days before his ascension to heaven. The teachings of demons can lead us astray spiritually - pay attention to what we teach to ensure that it is biblical.

@johnpaulthomas7034 3 жыл бұрын

you need to fire the sound engineer

@joshualuntsford 3 жыл бұрын

Uh oh

@tommiesmith3191 3 жыл бұрын

He never sounded better.

@joshualuntsford 3 жыл бұрын

@@tommiesmith3191 are you the sound guy. Lol

@joshr3716 3 жыл бұрын

This is a great message but I have a question. It is my understanding that demons are the dead offspring of the fallen angels that came down on Mount Hermon. "There were giants in those days and also after when the sons of God came into the daughters of men". These giants were the children of the angels that came down and when they died they were not part of God's creation and had nowhere to go when they died. Are these not the demons?

@kubaxthree4751 3 жыл бұрын

Greg is only teaching what he was taught by the Calvary church. Their belief is that the fallen Angels are the demons of the Bible. This is easily disproven by the fact that demons must inhabit a body, be it human or even animal. Why ? Because they are disembodied spirits. Angels have a body already. They don't need to inhabit anything. To say they want to inhabit a human body would be like saying Bill Gates wants to live in a trash dumpster. Many people cannot accept this doctrine because they just can't believe that Angels could somehow father children. My response to that is " So you are someone who completely understands what Angels can do, and what they can't ?"

@l-vbordercolliesbryanbaque6237 2 жыл бұрын

You are correct

@ericquezada3955 3 жыл бұрын

💯🙏

@francesmatthews2051 3 жыл бұрын

Volume to low

@teresasmith4145 3 жыл бұрын

Gods Word reveals His wisdom from His love letter the Holy Bible, "not angels". Woe unto you !

@tonybasoni8443 3 жыл бұрын

TS,.....Yes, correct. This guy has nothing to do with God.

@joehodges1548 3 жыл бұрын

Demon's are the neflium

@spookygirl7761 3 жыл бұрын

Could you pray for spooky girl..

@aprilnicole6847 3 жыл бұрын

Prayers

@tonybasoni8443 3 жыл бұрын

SG,......Please stop listening to false preachers/teachers. Your only prayer should be that you are raised from your spiritually dead state and taught the actual truth of the Bible. This is not going to happen in any church.

@spookygirl7761 3 жыл бұрын

@@tonybasoni8443 that's fine w you. Greg Laurie is a great preacher. I enjoy his message.

@ethelespia4737 3 жыл бұрын

Pastor Greg I am scared of snakes !!!

@chrisgraham2904 2 жыл бұрын

Just snakes, or tree snakes?

@rachelkewley2976 Жыл бұрын

She took and ate and gave some to her husband WHO WAS WITH HER. He was WITH her. She wasn't the only one hanging out by that tree. Maybe they were there to eat from the Tree of Life.

@Resenbrink Жыл бұрын

cOMEDY

@chadkincham 3 жыл бұрын

Volume level is very mediocre - can’t hear it with a fan running in summer, on iPad.

@bigmac3006 3 жыл бұрын

Great video but the volume is weak. Most KZbin videos have good volume but yours I have to turn it all the way up and sometimes I still cannot hear it. Thanks, and no the problem is not on my end. :-)

@drefalipaca3644 3 жыл бұрын

Demons are not the fallen angels, demons are earth bound while fallen angels are heaven bound. Gen.6.

@tonybasoni8443 3 жыл бұрын

DI,.....Sorry, but you are both wrong. There is no such thing a s demon or a fallen angel as you have been wrongly taught.

@chadkincham 3 жыл бұрын

Oh Tony....Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. There’s your fallen angels. Both spiritually and literally, they fell.

@ryanehlis426 3 жыл бұрын

Truth, demons are disembodied spirits from the former inhabitants or the hybrids that where destroyed in flood of Noah. Yes earth bound. Fallen angels are very different and higher ranking

@tonybasoni8443 3 жыл бұрын

@@ryanehlis426 ,....You could not be more wrong. You are 100% deceived and do not understand the Bible.

@tonybasoni8443 3 жыл бұрын

@@chadkincham ,.....You too, do not understand the Bible. This comes from listening to people with no Biblical understanding. You have all been indoctrinated into nothing but unbiblical nonsense, and the fables of Godless men.

@Raaadome 3 жыл бұрын

God showed me angels the first experience I spoke with 1 thank you Jesus for there guidance and protection

@tonybasoni8443 3 жыл бұрын

RE,......You are 100% self deluded, and self deceived.

@Raaadome 3 жыл бұрын

@@tonybasoni8443 Tony basoni I am not the one jesus is you You are completely self deluded you I'm not so self obsessed wake up my friend jesus is coming

@tonybasoni8443 3 жыл бұрын

@@Raaadome ,.....I have given you the truth. You are Gods/Jesus's enemy, and you are totally deceived. You have been tricked. Please read the Bible yourself and learn the actual truth of God and the actual truths of the Bible.

@nancybarnes4340 3 жыл бұрын

Sermon is good, but volume is poor

@MultiEps1 3 жыл бұрын

G🔜o🔚d, the beginning and the end. God dwells in the midst, in the center, middle. E=mc2, R=2GM/c2 ,e{i(pi)}+1=0, e^(pi*i)+1=0,F=G m1 m2|r2,F=G{\frac {m_{1}m_{2}{r^{2}\ }. God said to Moses, “I AM WHO I AM. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: ‘I AM has sent me to you’” (Exodus 3:14). The reason why God is one with him(Jesus) because the spirit of God is in him while teaching the scribes and the pharasees. Doing the works of the Father who is with him.. which is in him. That sent him into the world. Jesus can’t nothing without the Father(God). The Father is the only one true God no one else. And without God, Jesus can’t do nothing of his own. Because of obedience God is well pleased of him. You all may close to Jesus but the love of God maybe far away from you all.

@kevincharters535 3 жыл бұрын

The devil 👿 sometimes comes with a goatee! Sometimes she comes with a vision or a message or images she has seen in a slow motion or was she angel not a demon 👿?

@pastorprincejoseph2075 3 жыл бұрын

@lynnbulwinkle2304 3 жыл бұрын

Lynn Dee How are you doing from the surgery, Lynn? I have prayed for you and believe that you will be healed from the inside and out.

@leannewallace7315 3 жыл бұрын

Are you a free mason paster Greg?

@l-vbordercolliesbryanbaque6237 2 жыл бұрын

Demons are the disimbodied spirits of the nephaliam, the children of the fallen angels. Gen. 6 . They drowned in the flood

@yb5515 3 жыл бұрын

If you are O.S.A.S. you don't have to worry about satan or sin because you are always saved no matter what, even God himself couldn't keep you out of heaven.

@chadkincham 3 жыл бұрын

You might be OSAS but scripture isn’t, because that is the doctrine of demons warned about in the Bible, the false teaching Paul warned about when he said many times BE NOT DECEIVED about living sinfully as a believer. Jesus disproved the lie of OSAS when He warned an entire church in Sardis that they had become DEAD and they had to repent and become overcomers or He would blot their names from the book of life: Rev 3:1 And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art DEAD. Rev 3:2 Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die: for I have not found thy works perfect before God. Rev 3:3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and REPENT . If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee. Rev 3:4 Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy. Rev 3:5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels. That’s the same book of life that scripture says that those who’s names are not in it, are cast into the lake of fire.

@davidchupp4460 2 жыл бұрын

@@chadkincham wrong. Paul plainly stated we are sealed until the redemption of our bodies. Once we are saved we are ALWAYS saved. That’s a Pauline doctrine. Don’t twist the truth.

@davidchupp4460 2 жыл бұрын

@@chadkincham and for your knowledge we don’t get the doctrine of eternal security out of Revelation.

@chadkincham 2 жыл бұрын

@@davidchupp4460 seals are not vaults, not unbreakable - the food and medicine you buy all comes sealed, and you break the seal. If youbgrieve the Holy Spirit, which we are warned not to do, it breaks the seal. You enter the salvation covenant with God by meeting the terms of having faith, and repentance from sin and sinful lifestyles. If at any time you stop meeting; those two required criteria of faith and living a Holy life, you are no longer in the covenant. Paul make that clear when you actually read the whole New Testament instead of OSAS proof texts.

@chadkincham 2 жыл бұрын

@@davidchupp4460 the doctrine of eternal security is refuted in Revelation and in every epistle Paul wrote. How ignorant can you be, to state you don’t get any doctrine from the risen Jesus Christ’s letters TO THE CHURCHES? Amazing degree of biblical illiteracy.