The Truth About Boxer Engine Cars

Boxer engine car review. The Truth About Boxer Engine Cars, FYI and car review with Scotty Kilmer. Boxer engine explained. How boxer engine works. Boxer engine vs piston engine, which is better? Subaru boxer engine explained. Porsche boxer engine explained. VW Beetle boxer engine explained. Buying a boxer engine car. Modern boxer engines. Should I buy a boxer engine car? The history of the boxer engine. Car Advice. DIY car repair with Scotty Kilmer, an auto mechanic for the last 50 years.
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[@type2523]

Scotty Kilmer I own a boxer powered bus and it never break down in 36 years!(basically one time because the battery was flat )

[@RichWitGame]

Scotty Kilmer what is your take on "plasma" spark plugs and/or ignition systems? Also what do you think of reusable/washable oil filters?

[@mikeanderson1994]

Scotty Kilmer hey scotty what do you think about the 305 and 350 engines that they used in chevy caprice classic cars from 1980 till 1990 ?

[@michaelamick8295]

I see Scotty's twilight career as a stand up comedian! My wife loves the humorous pics he inserts!

[@nolan122]

I would say do two of these per week. These are awesome videos that have a ton of info in them. I like it more than the short videos on the livestream.

[@1one3_Racing]

"Its basically an old design" You mean, like a piston engine?

[@itftcomputers]

Compared to Tesla most cars these days is a 150 year old design -)

[@moneymatias6477]

🤔😂😂😂

[@daves984]

The only new engine (20th century) is a rotary. The rest are 19th century

[@ryu03xism]

@@daves984 but rotary is unreliable :(

[@michaelfrompolin]

@Paul JJ nota bene electric engines are as old as piston engines (if not older).

[@sc230mb]

I have 2 Subarus. A 4 and a 6. The sounds of both is wicked cool and the reliability has been 100%. The boxer design is awesome. Big props to Porsche and Subaru for sticking with it.

[@Soh90]

Subarus are cool, and so are Porsche’s. And if you’re willing to take care of them you’ll have some of the most visceral cars out there. But Scottie is right. Boxers are kind of quirky and there is a reason why the industry largely avoids them. Just like rotary engines. Boxers are hard to work on, prone to gaskets warping, and prone to burning oil. That’s not necessarily bad when you know what you’re doing, but kind of a hassle for the everyday consumer. Even Porsche doesn’t use them for their bread and butter Cayenne and Machan and Panamera cars opting to use V6 and V8’s instead. Subaru’s has never been and will never be more reliable than their Honda and Toyota counterparts and the Boxer motor is a large part of that. With all that being said, never let go of your Subies, they are awesome cars and the sounds they make are completely mental.

[@NeoCloud]

2010 outback flat 4, love it, the cvt is just amazing

[@pentlx]

The old pushrod engine Subarus were amazingly easy to work on. Adjusting the valves was easy, and everything was up top except the the oil drain plug and the oil filter, which was right in front. And they were absolutely reliable.

[@mrthomaslaux1]

How long ownwd?

[@damojan]

@Jack McAvoy After 2009, the 2.5 H4 had no more HG problems than any other car. The 3.0 and 3.6 H6 are as reliable as they come, having a lifetime timing chain and almost no HG issues.

[@ImuhMusician]

I bought my 99 Impreza with 200,000 miles on it and have put many more on it. All I've had to do was a water pump so far. I was scared with all the headgasket stories but I absolutely love my Subaru and wouldn't trade it for anything. They're also surprisingly easy to work on too.

[@spoon3990]

still happy with it? im looking at an 05 Impreza

[@gdmofo]

I have a 1999 Subaru Legacy with the 2.2 best car I've ever owned still going strong in 2023

[@umiy6299]

Got a 99 forester here, changed the head gaskets and fixed quite a few other problems. Engine was driven to death by the previous owner so it's not exactly perfect anymore (Weird coolant system issues caused by past overheating). But it has over 320,000 miles on it and counting.

[@nickcanyon023]

Apparently you have to re torque the heads every hundred thousand miles or so

[@glahome1]

My 2004 Subi WRX Turbo was very fast and crazy reliable. I sold it, all original, with no repairs to the engine other than the standard stuff such as alternator, belts, water pump, timing chain and associated bearings, and I sold it still running good with with 340K miles on it. Take care of your car and it will take care of you! Good vid, thank you!!

[@Flunoir]

What gas station did you go to? What oil brand and weight did you use and what were your oil change intervals?

[@maxxbenzz7842]

I have the same car same year. My body is falling apart, but mechanically it's been the best car I've ever had. 209k miles. Original clutch, everything. Did timing belt and turbo service. That's it

[@patricklee780]

I've owned 3 Subarus over a 40 year period and they are one of the most reliable cars on the planet.

[@mikestanly749]

Well they "subaru" are owned by toyota, and some of there junk is cheap china junk, 130,000 your gonna do a head job.every time , not on my G.m. cars and pickups.

[@anonymoususer7438]

@@mikestanly749 Cheap china junk? I loved my GM cars but man are you dense if you think these cars are "cheap china junk". Japanese engineers don't equate to Chinese engineers.

[@tuck229]

@@mikestanly749 The head gasket issue was mostly w/ the DOHC naturally aspirated engines that ran in the early 2000s in certain models. I've driven three Subarus past 200k miles, and a couple more past 150k and never had head gasket failure in any. (I also didn't have the notorious SOHC 2.5, mind you.) Consumer Reports still ranks the brand as very reliable. They are incredibly safe, and have an AWD system that few can rival.

[@TraceLight]

Patrick Lee *head gaskets have left the chat*

[@45shutr1]

mike stanly not 40 years ago they weren’t. Not even 20 years ago...

[@mrlt1]

Just remember kids if it's not an early - mid 90s Toyota it's the worst car ever.

[@DavidLopez-cd3dm]

its kinda right tho thats the sad part

[@lollol-xp4mc]

They do blow gaskets tho theres no pretending like that doesnt happen

[@fearedlegend]

Toyota was and is the most reliable car on the market

[@lollol-xp4mc]

@@fearedlegend i wish they still made affordable fun cars tho like a fun fwd or a new mr2 but theres no denying they are the most reliable

[@GiordanDiodato]

lolno

[@TheSwiftMoving]

Fun fact: the inline 4 cylinder was invented before the boxer engine. So going by your logic the inline 4 is older technology.

[@SaneSociety1]

yeah!

[@WifeBTR123]

Subaru boxer rumble is caused by unequal exhaust manifold lengths. My 2006 WRX has 306,000 miles. Original engine, transmission,head gasket, and CLUTCH.

[@eugenetimberlake5648]

Yeah I thought a lot of people knew this

[@ctt544]

God bless you

[@robertdaone]

Hold up let me find a cookie for you.

[@ctt544]

@@robertdaone pretty sad response, Robert. What this man is doing is admirable. Have a great day

[@robertdaone]

Christian K this was in response to WifeBTR123 comment. most people who own subis or know about them like I do know the cause of the subi rumble. stop being an overly sensitive drama queen.

[@chefinavan1]

Many years ago I had an Alfa Romeo 33 ti (boxer engine). And now a Subaru Impreza .... There is indeed something enchanting about them .

[@33pastas]

I had a 33 1.7 s And now i have a legacy ! Are you a cook?

[@beemrdon52]

I've had 4 VW bugs, a VW bus, 2 subarus and a BMW R90/6 (with 2 cyl boxer motor).

[@shiftyshamsk]

I've a legacy. Had 6 Subaru's. Thirsty but a 4x4, go well.

[@autoworld1256]

Its interesting to me that Scotty downplays the significance of the boxer engine since Porsche has won dozens of motorsports championships and that they are almost exclusively used by all small aircraft worldwide...not to mention that Subaru won the world rally car championship for several years with this boxer engine...

[@kostya0812]

Well that's good but most of us regular consumers who wants reliable and little newer car.

[@SulCoCrazy]

Superb design for aircraft and great for low center of gravity in cars. That plus their light weight nature can mitigate the relatively low power output as compared with other vehicles

[@SulCoCrazy]

Konstantin boxer engines are just as good as other designs so long as they are properly maintained.

[@supurfluus7028]

@@kostya0812 See thats whats confusing to me. Scotty basically makes this same claim in the video, and he says it has to do with the fact that boxer engines are old technology that havent seen as many advancements. However, I'm not sure if he's completely correct about this, and he didn't go in to much detail besides the head gasket problem (I've had head gaskets go on all my non boxer engines so I'm not sure about this either). Could you possibly provide some detail beyond what Scotty provided, and maybe give a clear reason as to exactly why a "regular consumer who wants a reliable and little newer car" wouldn't want a boxer engine? As an average consumer who wants the most reliable engine possible, I'd like to know the reason. I'm genuinely curious as I'm sure you and Scotty are correct, I'm just not sure why.

[@Super6-Four]

Because they have so many issues in Subarus. The Subaru designs are cheaper than the Porsche ones. They leak, they burn oil and they throw rods left right and center.

[@vaforce2006]

Reasons why boxers are great engines: 1) lower center of gravity for better handling 2) they can produce reasonable HP and torque if engineered correctly 3) Today’s boxer engine are fuel efficient and smoother than yesterday’s boxer that Scotty is talking about. Drive a new Subaru! You’ll be impressed.

[@officialWWM]

V A I did. I wasn't.

[@warmage247]

@@officialWWM I drive em at work, they are the stock liberties and such. The Toyota camrys are heaps better in form and function. Can't deny the AWD pull is nice but eh. Every Subaru I ever been in squeeks

[@officialWWM]

[R E D A C T E D] they sound like they have a miss in the engine...from the factory :/

[@3kkk514]

I had a crosstrek 2L petrol auto very smooth to drive and powerful, low emmission on awd. It drives like a luxury.

[@colarmstrong57]

@@warmage247 haven't been in mine then.

[@philliptoone]

5:19 That moment you are grateful you are watching Scotty on KZbin rather than in person. Say it don't spray it. :)

[@kellygable1668]

ha ha thought i seen that too , but wasn't sure

[@ganoostermoppy4325]

Looked like a buzzard poop, but more likely dripping gutter.

[@content6032]

wait til i tell you when the wheel was invented

[@goodolboys713]

Content made me laugh😂

[@kampkat6089]

Content lmfao. Good one 😂👊🏼

[@iforc]

Content best comment!!

[@ericharrison619]

Why do you think the Canadians switched to square wheels. (thanks Southpark)

[@PaulieHowarth]

😂

[@hellopolly2691]

Hi Scotty, I have a 2010 Subaru Forester. With a normal gearbox. It's the most reliable car I have had since my 1970 Toyota Corolla which was great..

[@TheCrazzyGuy11]

Dude I wish I could say I owned a 70s or 80s carolla… I will have a ae86 sooner or later

[@petergoesinya636]

The head gasket issue that Subaru had was because of a defective head gasket they put on the cars but they haven't used that head gasket for more than a decade

[@adrianadrian255]

I’ve driven most 4x4s, in bad conditions, in the Pacific Northwest, nothing is as good as a Subaru. A massive part of that is because on twisty, hilly roads the boxer engine sits low between the front tires. It’s not trying to breakaway on corners. When it snows in my area, Subarus are just about the only vehicles out and about (and there are a lot here!)

[@jasona5745]

I have a Subaru with 182,000 miles, it's been 100% reliable! So it may be old, but so is my 1911 pistol. Doesn't mean it doesn't work!

[@levis5230]

What is it and how old is it?

[@completely_blank9265]

1911's are cool but out of date u boomer.

[@onieshianapoleon2547]

👊

[@MasterBeighter]

@@completely_blank9265 and how many guns do you own?

[@truthflatearth]

I here ya brother I got 2016 outback

[@SirJamestheIII]

Porsche was thinking about ditching the 911 entirely and replacing it with the 928. Has nothing to do with the boxer engine. A flat 6 still got the gt2 rs around the ring in record time. The V engine predates the boxer by 8 years so do we call v configurations "old technology?" Also until Porsche 919 broke the record, the 962 also had the overall record with a flat 6 and was the most successful endurance car of its time. Boxer engines were great for endurance racing for reliability.

[@tybarker5038]

I’m on my third Subaru (this time a 2003 WRX) and I love the boxer engine. My last two Legacies ran past 200k before I sold but I’m sure they’re still on the road. This new one has 101k and I’m hoping to get 300 out of it this time because I really love it.

[@remissiveslave]

Good luck

[@wantdatcadpat44]

How's it holding up?

[@t_z1030]

Scotty strikes me as the kind of guy who decided he knew everything 20 years ago, and hasn't learned anything since. I have had old timer mechanics just like him tell me authoritatively that placing a car battery on concrete will make it discharge - something that hasn't been true since we stopped making the casings out of wood. Hey Scotty, if you took a V6 engine, and made the V angle 180 degrees does that engine instantaneously become outdated? Of course not, because the boxer/180 degree engine is technologically the same as a V or inline engine. The main reason most manufacturers stick with an inline or V layout is for packaging. The boxer can be mounted low, but it takes up a large area and pretty much leaves you no option but to mount it longitudinally. That means you get the triple whammy of a large engine bay, a transmission tunnel and rear diff that has to fit under your car - all that takes up a lot of space. Your typical manufacturer will instead take an upright engine, and cram it transversely with a transaxle into the shallowest possible engine bay to maximise the amount of cabin space they're left with. And this isn't 2001 any more, Subaru aren't making EJ25s with graphite coated gaskets. They are no more prone to head gasket problems than any other vehicle.

[@lunarpking]

Tell that to my 2006 outback and any number of subarus I know of that blow them before 100,000 miles. Never heard of that with any other car.

[@fistsfirst4584]

@@lunarpking that hasnt been an issue with Subaru's newer FA engines

[@stevenfowler7088]

I love my 2015 subaru 2.5i ps batteries still shouldn't go on the ground when it is hot a kid i was teaching to be a tech put it on the hot tar and boom went more puff and fizzle

[@orangefaygo1]

Inline fours cost less to manufacture too. Both my Subarus were super reliable. They were both 5 speed & used to beat the snot out of them. Traded my 08 with 160k with no big repair costs other than a clutch (I beat the crap out of it 😝).

[@mikehertz6507]

That's why the engine belongs in the back! *Porsche

[@TripleTapHK]

"My wife's old matrix would run circles around it (BRZ)." You must be smokin' that good stuff again.

[@royhartle7927]

Exactly. How many naturally aspirated engines engines make 100 HP/litre like the BRZ? Certainly not his wife's POS.

[@MrSeizureBunny]

I've chopped BRZ's and 86's in my Suzuki Swift.... Until 3rd gear, GO the hustler hatch!

[@konradbrochocki4923]

@Physic Studios Your engine is most likely a 2.8 litre as opposed to the 2 litres of the 86/BRZ, and the standard golf VR6 is about 80kg lighter. So those results are pretty unsurprising.

[@80s_Boombox_Collector]

No one cares how fast your car is. Having a powerful motor is not an accomplishment. A teenager can swap motors or install a turbo. It's not impressive. Making a car handle like a sportscar is a real accomplishment, that takes extensive engineering and testing. And BTW slapping some springs and bars onto a Civic doesn't make it handle like a real sportscar.

[@rayland9305]

@@80s_Boombox_Collector Because everyone's swapping motor's these days... especially those damn teenagers. This guy obviously owns a slow af car, but he can tell all the girls "But hey, it handles so well!" lmao

[@soundwavesaudio1]

Hey scotty why r you not recording in 4k. 1080 is an old design like the boxer engine

[@moonsapling]

Good one

[@Couperetarded]

😂😂

[@jamessmith84240]

Because it takes more time, space, and money to work with 4k. Not really worth it if you don't need the detail. Now if scotty did videos about ants or little toy cars, maybe then its worth it but not here.

[@moonsapling]

@@jamessmith84240 yeah you didnt get it.... Lmao

[@rhymereason3449]

4K is a complete waste of bits on a computer screen... why does everyone think bigger is always better unconditionally?

[@charlesweimer2842]

Hey Scotty always love hearing your comments on the different vehicles. I am driving my third Subaru Forester I only put about 70,000 on them and I have got to say they have served me well. I always get the extended warranty then I have no worries so to speak. I love hearing your take on all the different vehicles I always feel I am getting an unbiased opinion.I subscribe to your channel as I said I always love hearing you opinion.Thanks Charlie in Kentucky!

[@busaboy6345]

Daily driver is a 2001 Subaru Outback. Bought it new, has over 412K miles and still going strong. Not very powerful, but extremely reliable.

[@stevenashley7199]

My new Subaru Ascent has a 2.4-liter turbocharged boxer-4 engine makes 260 horsepower and 277 pound-feet of torque, and it definitively doesn't feel under powered, that's more horsepower than my V8 Durango that I still drive.

[@infotechsailor]

Same here. Wish I could get that engine in my foresters too

[@bfrank1972CT]

I feel the urge to constantly wipe my screen while watching this video

[@heeeresjohnny7503]

LOL...Just put wipers ....

[@onieshianapoleon2547]

Brad Franklin 😹

[@thomascuell3215]

that's awesome!!!

[@ronnieboucherthecrystalcraftsm]

because scotty kilmer is full of crap = no wonder they lost the WAR !

[@sfsheff]

He's practicing up for his review of the old 'Spitz' 2-cycle bicycle engine.

[@DanoLuvoe]

Blown head gasket issues were due to a single layer gasket, which has been fixed with using the multilayer head gasket.

[@tuannguyenable]

I have the 2000 forester and has 400,000km and still going well. Very capable long distant Companion

[@33pastas]

Or i go in vacations with the legacy or i stay home.

[@nigelstringfellow5187]

My '95 Subaru Liberty has over 400,000 miles on the original engine and is the most reliable car I have owned,I keep it maintained by doing things like changing timing belts every 100,000 miles ,changing oil regularly etc,the car is plenty powerful enough for my needs and is great on fuel so for me boxer engines are fine ! Thanks for the videos Scotty.

[@zxttgg]

Nigel Stringfellow didyou replace your head gasket.?

[@carlquitcheefin]

@@zxttgg head gasket wasn't really a big issue in that generation, the one after it is when they started getting head gasket problems.

[@jamesnewman4136]

I have a 98 Subaru Legacy with over 300 thousand miles on it original motor transmission an original clutch she is a pretty reliable motor

[@stevensevek6151]

@@zxttgg I have owned four different Subarus and never had a problem with head gaskets. (None of mine had automatic transmissions either.)

[@CVBFonzP7B]

295,000 km on my original 2002 wrx motor!

[@ReMz10184]

You get a top of the line AWD system with Subaru on a budget. Mother in law had an outback with 400k miles. I think that engine is just fine.

[@user-lq1dk6gr3p]

agreed buddy! just change your oil check your fluids and you’re good to go. most people dont tske care of their cars!!

[@ReMz10184]

@@user-lq1dk6gr3p Amen to that brotha!

[@Preh]

Top of the line AWD system? The Subaru AWD system is more out of date than the boxer engine, literally everyone is making intelligent AWD better than them. Ok almost everyone.

[@user-lq1dk6gr3p]

Chance any evidence to support the claim that their awd is out of date?

[@williepie]

@@Preh Those new AWD systems suck and cant even touch subaru's.

[@josephrutz4248]

I like the little history lesson you sneak in your videos Scotty. I re-watched this video today and enjoyed it once again.

[@obi-wankenobi7160]

This guy obviously has never seen the 2018 GT3 with 4.0 L NA flat six that revs to 9k and has 500 HP........

[@kevinkline3938]

The main reason that VW discontinued the Air Cooled Boxer engine in 1975 in the Beetle was due to emissions compliance, not for any mechanical shortcomings. Plus it was still made in Brazil into the 2000's. It also never even had head gaskets. I could never understand why the Corvair was deemed a failure, when it was essentially of a copy of the Beetle which went on to sell multiple millions more after Nader destroyed the Corvair. And the Porsche, which is a Beetle design on Meth, is still produced today. And if Subaru and Porsche are selling them today as fast as they can make them, how can it be outdated? I am sure if Toyota made them you would be jerking off to them 24/7.

[@n9wox]

Corvair 32/68 weight distribution is unbalanced

[@cdoggy10]

That'll be one slippery snek of a car.

[@98triffid]

The Corvair had enough power to make the swing axle design cause problems that weren't apparent at

[@karlreinke]

It is my understanding the "bottom end" of the air cooled VW engine is way, wayyyyyy overbuilt. Guys that use these engines on sand rail dragster can often get 400HP with a stock crank and journals. I love BMWs boxer. Owned one for years. It's a very torquey but very boring motor. Has a nice panther like growl when you give it the beans though. I think the main reason boxers have gone aways is the same reason V engines are going away. Accountants. Twice as many cam chains Twice a many cylinder heads Twice as many camshafts.

[@richh1576]

I used to road-race the Corvair (organized road racing was popular in the 1950s - 60s). If you backed off the accelerator while in a TIGHT turn, the swing axle system would 'tuck up' on the inside of the turn causing a severe over-steer condition for the rest of the car when that tucked rear wheel took on its normal weight load .... for a high probability of an 'instant snap' 180° skid. For normal driving conditions, if you had insufficient tire pressure in one of the rear tires, the 'snap 180° skid' could be even worse and MORE violent. FWIW - Boxers are fast and easy to remove for working on them; they 'drop out' onto a transmission jack once the axels are pulled from the transaxle.

[@soundmannh9790]

My Subaru WRX does 0 to 60 in 5.3 seconds, and has an electronically limited top speed of 140mph. That's out of a turbo charged 2.0 liter boxer engine. It sounds like heaven under full throttle, and I've never considered it to be "slow". And I think it's amazing how much HP and torque Subaru managed to milk from a 2.0 liter 4 cylinder. Judging the performance of boxer engines based on the BRZ's performance is silly. The biggest mistake Subaru made was not offering it with a WRX drive train.

[@guyjonson6364]

Boxers are great thats why been in aircraft for a century. Scotty! In aircooled design they are optimum for airflow and balance. Fit into cowling perfectly. Too much power makes any engine unrelible in the long run anyway. In the car , especially Suv; makes a Suv handle like a car due to lower center of gravity. Four cylinder Sub is like a six due to great balance..

[@darkh2o716]

A stick shift with competent driver and the Boxer is Gold.

[@pauldinkmeyer2712]

Some observations: 1. There are few more pleasing engine sounds than the native sound of the WRX. 2 Corvair was the victim of crusader Ralph 3. The original beetle couldnt keep up with emission requirements.

[@rayland9305]

I bet you think lawnmowers sounds pleasing as well.

[@jxshannon2]

I've had 5 old VWs. The sound is great if you like being followed ultra-close by 747 taking off.

[@carguy4452]

Scotty, what is the craze of 5 cylinder engines?

[@markfive3731]

Volvo makes a good one

[@GeorgeJFW]

I liked my Colorado it was a 5 cylinder not very smooth though

[@mcplutt]

Is it a craze? Audi and MB started the 5-cylinder craze back in the 70's. 5 cylinders are better than 4, but shorter than 6.

[@YusukeShirogane]

Volvo only makes 4 cylinder engines now

[@20502chris]

VR5 is a Legend

[@toddly1133]

Scotty, thank you for explaining the Boxer engine in easy to understand terms. I've been wondering about those for awhile now but I haven't delved into it that much.

[@marktx21]

I work at a used car lot as a mechanic and my boss likes Subaru’s and one thing I have noticed in checking dozens of those cars is I’m surprised when I find one that doesn’t either leak oil or coolent from the head gaskets. Especially ones with the older SOHC timing belt engines. The newer timing chain versions are FAR better engines. Ohh and another thing I find is that people like to remove the heat shields on the cats that rattle like crazy on every one of them. This in turn cooks the oil in the filter and the pan causing even more problems.

[@kfc1818ko]

LOL two of my subarus have 300k+ miles.

[@3amfridgeraider672]

How many times did the engine blow up ?

[@kfc1818ko]

はそれを切り開くDigipak zero.

[@LKRG]

@@3amfridgeraider672 ej22s are the most reliable boxers on EJ series tbh

[@3amfridgeraider672]

@@LKRG as far as i know it's illegal to use reliable and subaru in the same sentence.

[@LKRG]

@@3amfridgeraider672 key words are "as far as you know" if only you knew how much Subaru's I can still see on the road with 300-400k compared to Toyotas or Hondas

[@nicoz6540]

I own a subaru brz. My biggest complaint is the power. You really have to floor it. But then again, it doesnt really matter cause you cant go fast anyways. Cops are real good in Virginia

[@invertedv12powerhouse77]

Its predecessor had 110hp and wasnt fast, it was only agile. Its only a 28k car in Canada so I mean... Dont expect it to have 500hp out of the factory. It only has 200.

[@nicoz6540]

@@invertedv12powerhouse77 sure! I dont know a whole lot about cars but, it takes premium... camry's have more horsepower.

[@macdaddykwm1]

The BRZ was made to be a tuner's car.

[@invertedv12powerhouse77]

@@nicoz6540 yes, because they are bigger engines, 2.5l and 3.5l V6. Also they start off as being more expensive. So whats your point. This is a handling car. And who told you it needs premium fuel? Its not turbo charged

[@Petrezen1982]

I own BRZ 3 years now .My car manual says it can run 95oct but prefers 98oct RON fuel. So yes, premium. I've mailed subaru online service and they told me it should run on 98+ oct fuel (RON). I like my car cause it's light, has no turbo (I dont need to warm it up so long, dont have to cool it down) , RWD, manual gearbox, has enough trunk space for my car audio, insurance is lower than most of cars in it's class, spare parts are dirt cheap, tires are cheap. If you are serious car user and maintain it those are real bright sides of this car.

[@Quantum369Mechanic]

Great video! I’ve owned 5 Subaru’s (1992-2005) and yes they have their issues but I just have a lot of fun and enjoy the noise they make with unequal length headers and a nice quiet deep muffler. But now that I’m at the top of my career chapter and two kids with one on the way, I’m sticking to Toyota. My wife’s Sienna has been amazing and get better gas mileage than my old outback (it just started leaking gasses into coolant) I’m going to retire it and get Camry hybrid or something Toyota like that and when I have a shop later on down the road, I’ll buy a Subaru project and do all fun stuff I’ve dreamed about.

[@SuperHeliboy]

I bought a Subaru Forrester last year and it's the best SUV I've ever had out of the 5. It's says that it is only 170 odd horsepower but feels nearly twice that. Shocking getup and go of it. I would most certainly buy another.

[@mr.lumbergh]

The Forester is a great car, just got one for my better half and she loves it.

[@chrisfreemesser5707]

Nothing better than the sound of an air-cooled Beetle engine with the stock muffler and tailpipes...definitely a distinctive sound!

[@orbits2]

True. I had one and as a bonus they are good in snow and float on water to a certain degree.

[@alfresco4976]

Except the sound of a CORVAIR!

[@MostlyTorso]

Man, I love these videos. I love learning about cars from a virtual cartoon character (no offense, Scotty) that can hold my A.D.D.-riddled attention. Also, the added graphic boxes are brilliantly funny. Well done, sir!

[@billyarsenault1970]

Good stuff SK. Thx for helping me get my head around this mess I got myself into- 2009 Forester 200K*

[@samaeri]

Great video. It all makes common sense. Thumbs up!

[@CaptTylor]

Tucker cars had a water cooled six cylinder engine boxer engine, not air cooled. (Tucker car fan btw) One of my VW's has had one engine rebuild on it and car has 485,000 one owner, miles documented. He (great uncle Bill) was driving it up till one month from his death. When not modified, a boxer engine is very dependable and smooth running powerplant.

[@sinformant]

Its a damn shame what they did to Tucker. Imagine if he had been left alone and got completely up and running and on the market. I believe all of our modern cars would be a lot more advanced than they currently are. He was a true pioneering genus, the other auto manufacturers were just scared so they had to squash their competition

[@mcplutt]

Tucker has a Bell helicopter engine. Air cooled in aviation but water cooled in the Tucker.

[@invertedv12powerhouse77]

Boxers can handle turbo power like any other engine... When we talk about subarus head gasket problems, its because all ej25s had no reinforcement at the top of the cylinder walls

[@stevethomas760]

I live in Tucker, Ga. First one I ever saw was in the local parade. Very cool

[@Omar-kw5ui]

As a mechanical engineer, boxer engines are by far my favourite engine. You get low CG because the engine is flat, meaning you can corner harder. low vibration by design, which means you can make them rev higher. I have to disagree with scotty that they are niche because they are an "old design". The reason they are niche is because they are more expensive to make than straight or v engines. Straight engines are the cheapest to make which is why they are the most common, and why most research goes into them.

[@ajunta2270]

Scotty completely missed the mark on this one. You are dead right.

[@tracknar37]

they are mostly more expensive because of the need for 2 cylinder head and 2 camshaft assembly on each side of the engine, but they make a really nice rumble with the right intake and exhaust design (lenght, diameter, material)

[@RalphSampson...]

@@tracknar37 I can't imagine a 2.5L, 182 HP engine as having a nice "rumble". What needs to be done to it? I just bought a 2020 Forester Sport.

[@tracknar37]

@@RalphSampson... you need what's called "unequal lenght headers" these will give you the classic subaru Rumble. If you already have these buy a less restrictive silencer

[@tracknar37]

@@RalphSampson... without the headers you will only pretty much have a classic inline 4 engine sound

[@Yehudah5768]

I dunno, my Subaru is a best seller. So much for that ancient design.

[@reptilesgamers00]

"This is what most people buy."

[@tonyw973]

I had an '83 Subaru wagon that had it's share of problems but none of them were engine-related. It did sound agricultural and certainly idled roughly but it was always reliable.

[@sleepeatdrive7619]

I love the boxer engine in my Porsche. The sound it makes at full throttle is pure bliss!!

[@Allensanity]

Subie for life

[@fabiomottini8315]

Subaru is Love, Subaru for ever

[@ResortDog]

I like climbing with ANY one tire.

[@AdventuresofAwesomeJoe]

Searched the comments to represent Subaru!

[@DimitriBianco]

Legacy 97, 05, and Ascent 19

[@703Bugeye]

02 Bugeye here

[@larryiguidez4072]

Awesome info. Thanks.

[@estradaj777]

Great information

[@elidames6889]

I really like this format of video

[@ericchapman399]

Subaru Legacy 1994 longest I have ever owned a car. Alway a pleasure to drive.

[@jamesdean333]

Just bought a 2019 legacy 30,000 miles. Car Doesn’t have balls. But I do. Not everyone knows how to drive.

[@ericchapman399]

@@jamesdean333 So you now have a car with Ball Bearing Steering Gear.

[@MiguelOrtiz-eh1dl]

I saw the Celica in the background I’m definitely subscribing you know your stuff sir

[@thriftshop2609]

Had an 04 Legend, 130,000 miles, very smooth running engine. It ran exceptionally smooth under acceleration like no other vehicle I've ever driven. If it wasn't totaled in a accident I'd still have it. For the right price I'd buy another one.

[@citizendc9]

2019 Porsche 718 Boxster - 365-hp turbocharged 2.5-liter flat-four (GTS model). Zero to 60 miles in 4.3 seconds. Economy: 21 mpg city / 28 mpg highway

[@Blade548]

The pros and cons about flexfuel engines? Are they better than single fuel engines?

[@manbearpig5907]

Good question I would also like to hear an answer on that.

[@adcolt54]

I thought he already did answer this question

[@Blade548]

@@adcolt54 Really? Send me the link please.

[@hajjdawood]

FlexFuel vehicles use components with a far greater resistance to corrosion and they have fuel nozzles that can adjust to greater ranges (as ethanol needs more fuel injected vs gas). IF you have a FlexFuel vehicle and you use E85 you should see far better life out of your engine then using gasoline. It burns much cleaner, smells better, contaminates the oil far less, wears engines much less (see EngineeringExplained video were he goes through the study), produces significantly less pollution, is 100% renewable, and can be carbon neutral

[@patrickm5217]

Biggest technical difference between E85 and regular fuel is that high ethanol formulas corrode fuel lines and rubber components faster on older vehicles. But flex fuel cars and new cars in general have modern polymers in the fuel lines to prevent that kind of damage. Fuel sensors tell the ECU what kind of gas you're running so it can alternate the air/fuel mixture, injection etc. Flex fuel burns a lot faster than regular gas so you get less mileage on same volume of gas. It also produces less power. Those are the tradeoffs for using cleaner burning fuels.

[@henrypeterson1981]

“Unbalanced Forces Inside.” CLASSIC!! Love it!!

[@surfadicted]

Scotty roll that blunt bro !!! Excellents videos always watching your channel from argentina

[@contact4mwy7]

My 2000 Subaru Outback Wagon boxer engine has 238,000 miles on it, so far. Only replaced the belts, water pump, ignition module, knock sensor and spark plugs.

[@MnDakota37]

Eyy a fellow 2000 OBW! 128k here and no issues yet.

[@contact4mwy7]

@@MnDakota37 change out those timing belts and water pump when recommended and regular maintenance and good luck to you!

[@MnDakota37]

@@contact4mwy7 thank you sir! I've seen these go myself so I hope to have this car a long time. Heck my dad's ex has one and it got a bent valve, still putting on like a champ. It pulled a 1971 VW Kombi about 200 miles..so yeah.

[@banzairunner7860]

Never actually knew what “boxer engine” meant...good video thank you

[@paullapper8702]

Mötley Crüe h

[@Chris.Davies]

The boxer engine is for people who like actual engineering, and fun driving. I drive a modified WRX; Tommy Kaira M20b (wagon) and a '69 911S. It's the most fun you can ever have with a small engine.

[@freddy6062]

I bought a 2021 Subaru Impreza with the 2.0 boxer as a commuter car. I also have a 911 Carrera S. They both have the joyful rumble and vibration from the boxer engine. Love them both!

[@erikulintz]

Welll now we all know that Scotty hasn't driven the 911 GT2...

[@justinbivens5664]

LMFAO

[@fairbanksairriders]

Come on Scotty test drive an STi and let us know if it makes enough power.

[@antothemanto77]

Erik Ulintz Or even the 911 GT3-naturally aspirated and still super fast

[@andersonrodriguez8258]

U should do who makes better engines Honda or Toyota

[@JenGM24]

Anderson Rodriguez that's a tough one.

[@sinformant]

LOL if you have watched this channel long enough you'd know what his answer will be

[@benitojr4332]

lol 😁According to scotty, if it's not a Toyoda it's Junk, especially them Nissan & kisa

[@benitojr4332]

Kias

[@andersonrodriguez8258]

J.Gomez yea but as rn Ima go with Toyota they making the most reliable power train rn

[@vasiliskostoulasj8531]

My father owns a subaru outback 2009 2.0 diesel . After 200.000 km and 11 years later it does not have a single problem

[@markplatter8394]

Just bought the 2022 Toyota GR86 premium with a manual! Awesome power, handling, and has a wicked great sound! Scotty, I live about 2-1/2 hours east of Nashville, let’s go for a ride!

[@Unyamurdle]

I have a boxer engine in my Toyota 86, yaaaay I love my car, it's not super fast but it's really fun to drive

[@The_Animal_Man]

I have an FR-S, I love it but it needs a tune, intake and exhaust then ill be a little happier

[@Unyamurdle]

sexiewasd yes I do

[@Musicizmyremedy]

Hey twin 👍. Love my 86 as well

[@Unyamurdle]

John Freeman I know right? When I used to drive customers super cars with crazy power it wasn't my jam. I like my 86 much better! Nothing compares to clicking over a v12 though I must admit lol!

[@Musicizmyremedy]

Unyamurdle I agree. I could’ve gotten a beefed an SRT Challenger or WRX but when I sat down and drove the FRS it just felt right. You can go full throttle with FRS without killing yourself and the way it hugs in tight corners is crazy fun.

[@m8nick8m66]

“Rev up your Toyota’s!”

[@MrSeizureBunny]

Young heavy vehicle mechanic from Australia who loves ya work Scotty, keep it up mate! Could definitely have a mad conversation with you over a few cold ones... Or hot ones. You could tell stories about how only suits had a mobile phones, money once was made of paper and how the rise of over-entitled digital natives became the now. Until then, "Rev up your engines!"

[@mbg6469]

Thanks for the loosely related popup pictures.

[@shifted1978]

Hey. Don’t be throwing shade on my slow Toyota 86. How dare you lol.

[@jaredswords3]

It's a fun slow car. Cheap as hell too.

[@Rhythmeister]

It may not be fast in a straight line buts it's a sports car and corners are where it truly excels, especially with that incredibly low CoG 😎

[@galuhrichata6148]

And it is one of the easiest car to drift around. True, it is not fast. But it can bring so much fun. (By the way, I wish they put the 265 hp WRX engine in it, or even the 300 hp WRX STi engine, for that matter).

[@Rhythmeister]

@@galuhrichata6148, I'd say it'd make a great track car with a little lightening and with about 300bhp 👌🏼

[@galuhrichata6148]

Liam O'Flaherty Amen to that, Brother...👍🏼👍🏼

[@s13180sxSR20DET]

Porsche GT2RS and GT3RS are literally some of the fastest cars ever made. They use boxers. Yet you argue they are obsolete. You have no idea.

[@nfsfanAndrew]

@Deez Nuts theres always a way to make it work :)

[@wilson2000t]

Dragsters are the fastest cars ever built. I've yet to see one with a boxer engine!

[@flightofthefatman]

In terms of the general market they are.

[@bobriley000444]

they are high-maintenance, very expensive racing models champ...

[@itftcomputers]

@@wilson2000t Because they drive in a straight line - boxer engine is amazing when it comes to handling.

[@aiden6843]

I drive the absolute hell out of my 2nd hand 2001 forester GT, the only thing I've done to it is put a bigger STI turbo in it, its been reliable so far and fun as hell

[@jagbluegenny6864]

I bought my 08 Subaru wrx cuz I love the sound on the boxer engine

[@apachelives]

Subaru EJ22s are bullet proof its the EJ25 that has the head gasket issues (bad head gasket design, not from thrashing or whatever mentioned) - if you replace those head gaskets with the genuine Subaru EJ25 TURBO head gaskets (different design MLS gaskets) its a permanent fix, if you have a manual EJ25 Subaru and your clutch is due and on original head gaskets leave the transmission in and remove the engine and do the heads at the same time. The original head gaskets for SOHC EJ25 usually leak externally and cause no major problems and can be ignored for years, the DOHC EJ25 (early EJ25) have internal leaks (coolant-combustion) If you take your Subaru to the dealership for head gaskets they will replace them with the same part number and it will fail again (usually sooner due to poor workmanship - heads not inspected/machined, poor preparation of heads using a flap wheel etc) These are really simple cars to work on, everything is easy to get to.

[@lllowelll]

People complain about spark plugs access not served like a steak on a dinner plate.

[@shawnamison2485]

@@lllowelll the spark plugs aren't that difficult even. I did my 09 legacy in 45 minutes. All I needed was to remove the battery, air intake box, and use a couple of socket extensions.

[@harleybobdogflog2909]

They are easy to work on, except for changing the head gaskets!

[@biancaramirez5788]

I will argue that point.. The boxer being obsolete. I have owned my first Subaru hatchback and absolutely love the hell out of it. I recently went "mudding " and despite the fact that I have to replace a wheel bearing and four CV axles, I've never been happier with any vehicle and I'm a die hard Ford lover. Yes I know that expensive repairs are necessary and common but I be damned as far as I'm concerned, it's worth it. I'm gonna drive my Subaru till it ain't worth fixing, then I'm gonna make it a rally racer.

[@snowflow9081]

Both front wheel bearings and CV went on my Impreza as well (along with a long list of other issues). Car is built really chinsey and cheap imo. The engine plus CVT is anemic too.

[@samuraiberserk7524]

Thnx for the info man you are the best coz i was thinking of buying a wrx

[@allflying3]

Well, Scotty never mention any serious trouble with boxer engine. So, as long as I drive normally and take a good care of my Suby, and STAY AWAY FROM CVT, it will last forever.

[@danimalcrackers1224]

I thought it started raining at 5:20 Great video really always good vids

[@pheenix42]

As a relatively new employee at Subaru, I might disagree a bit with the idea of the engine being antique or outdated. We currently have a wait time of several months for the Ascent because we can't build them fast enough.

[@brianflores6207]

I love the way the Boxer 4 cyl sounds. Put an exhaust on it and that deep rumble is just amazing to hear. That's why people love the WRX and Impreza hell even the Forester STI sounds great.

[@howdoyouevenknow6526]

Agreed man the low rumble sounds so damn good

[@brucewalker1588]

and scotty you are right you just have to love them.2001 outback and a 1150 bmw rt

[@Hallowsaw]

I have a Legacy 3.6r. I love how balanced the engine is. It is incredibly smooth and it is not noisy like scotty says; however, I did put aftermarket exhaust on it and now it sounds awesome and borderline older 911 sound alike. It is super roomy in the interior, not overly complicated like some cars are I do wish it was a hatchback though cause i would like the versitility of the outback without the stilts. It has been very reliable, shoot at the same mileage my previous Buick had oil leaking, had to replace all coolant piping and radiator, a/c and heater went out it was a mess. BTW it really is not hard to work on. I can do an oil change or transmission drain and fill or a differential drain and fill in about 30 minutes each. Air filter is always super easy, cabin filter is easy, battery is easily accessible. Serpentine belt was done in 20 minutes. Brakes are no different than any other mainstream car. Spark plugs are the only real difficult regular maintenance and that is because of the close frame to engine. however if you have 2 jacks and know how to loosen a couple engine mounts its really easy too. If not it could take hours yourself if you do not have the right extensions or swivels. Shoot for the price they charge at the dealer I would just buy a second jack and save yourself a couple hundred in the life of your car. I will admit though, their fluid levels are kind of high(takes almost 7qts of oil every 5k miles, 4qt of trans fluid per drain) So Scotty, how is it hard to work on? You get a balanced engine, symmetrical AWD (none of the fwd/rwd biased crap) that gets great gas mileage for an AWD car (dont compare to fwd cars cause everyone knows there is power losses and efficiency losses with awd) and extremely they are extremely practical. The key to their balanced AWD is their boxer engine. Also have you seen the crash tests of these cars, they are ridiculous at withstanding lethal damage to the occupants and my insurance is significantly lower than any other car I have owned which have all been midsized sedans or eco cars. I have 0 problems in snow of 5.5 inches or less, obviously bumpers get in the way. Shoot im confident in the awd that if the outbacks had some goot all terrain tires they could make it through 8 inches. Yes Subaru is less reliable than Toyota... but guess who owns a pretty good percentage of subaru now... Toyota. So with toyota's reliability and hybrid tech, I can see Subaru and Toyota merging and dominating a lot of the market. Shoot put Subarus AWD in the Tacoma and say goodbye to some of the smaller trucks. I have a vision that Subaru will be one of those companies that started as relatively nothing and turn into a walgreens or an amazon. And for goodness sake subaru, make a luxury line. I know too many Doctors that drive subarus mainly for their awd notoriety.

[@Davehaha2001]

I love my Subaru it has a 3.0 six cylinder H6 engine in a Legacy it’s a liberty here in Australia it’s great so fun to drive

[@kumchavalcha]

H6 spec b for life mate;)

[@peterpacciani666]

Same here

[@MrPostal2005]

And here, but an outback 3L with the extra SI-Drive. Love it

[@HB-qu8dm]

@@kumchavalcha Preach brother

[@zebra6861]

Yesss

[@malnasr]

"Scotty is cool but he be spiting all over the place". True that.

[@ikkenhisatsu7170]

I've owned some pretty cool (mid-budget) cars over the last nearly 50 years, but my 2021 WRX is my favorite ever. Incredible exhaust noise, lots of power and handles like a go-kart on coke. Love it. Yeah, there are faster cars, but I'm not racing it - just a daily driver. But I can pass when I need to and it never fails to make me smile.

[@John-uj9zy]

The boxer engine layout has the lowest center of gravity found in conventional dino burners. That is why Porsche continues to use boxer engines. In some cases handling characteristics take precedent over power, efficiency, or durability found in other engine layouts.

[@marcaliventialiventi765]

I don't know why you are knocking Subaru engines. One of the easiest to work on. All accessories are mounted on the top of the motor no turbo motor gets GREAT fuel mileage on the highway. What's not to like

[@csiu6703]

I have an 09 Forester, LOVE IT. The Boxer engine / clean exhaust is more than adequate. Acceleration may be slow, but just adapt to the driving situation.

[@coolguy726]

Except for STI lol

[@thebadmanreturns]

No. Boxer engine is painful for DIY Hobbyist Mechanic. Try changing all spark plugs on an STi, it take hours, the space is very narrow

[@jnigl000]

Yeah you don't need to knock on subaru engines they do that themselves. XD

[@billypurdy8581]

steve blow I change spark plugs at my work on wrxs and Sti in under 30 minutes all day long and other Subaru models. The space is small but it is more then enough to get the job done :)

[@penguin12902]

Boxer is a great fit for Subaru, because it's all about balance, low center of gravity, and HANDLING with that amazing symmetrical All Wheel Drive system. I've never driven a car that handles better in snow than a Subaru. If you live in the North, and you want to drive in snowstorms...get a Subaru.

[@ianholmquist8492]

Wrx/sti: sports car that will churn through snow and ice and get me to the ski hill or to work with no fuss when everyone else is sliding off the road. Practical and fun. Gotta love it

[@anmcclo9731]

good review Scotty Kilmer

[@waltblackadar4690]

Not really true that the boxers are under-powered. The BRZ (Toyota 86) is under-powered but that's due to the design and not the engine. It's been the single biggest complaint on that model and for some reason they won't update it. If they put in the boxer from the WRX (268 HP on the standard 2018 WRX) then that BRZ would flat-out fly since it weighs 500 pounds less than the WRX. The STI has 305 HP and it accelerates fast enough to cause whiplash. No, it can't get 500+ HP like the Dodge Charger but that car can't turn worth a damn and the WRX STI will corner on a dime. The low-slung engine makes it much more fun to drive than just raw HP.

[@lllowelll]

Do you even know what youre talking about?

[@waltblackadar4690]

Yes I do. Thank you for asking.

[@BosnianHD]

Shut up

[@zeno15sti33]

No worries you can easily make 500hp STI if not cheaply. And sill handle.I just fitted some Michelin pilot sport 4s for extra grip

[@ellisjackson3355]

That probably wouldn't be as stable in the shorter FR-S wheelbase...everyone complains about that and I'm just like "whatever." I love my FR-S.

[@howtodoitdude1662]

Even the best mechanics don’t know everything about cars. This video is proof of it.

[@angelgjr1999]

HowToDoItDude Elaborate.

[@stephenburke2386]

Angel Gutierrez I want you to elaborate

[@angelgjr1999]

@@stephenburke2386 *brain.exe has stopped working*

[@HF-im1kv]

Gotta explain yourself dummie

[@michaelseeds4221]

@@angelgjr1999 The argument about the boxer engine being a bad design purely because it was patented in 1896 is nonsense. The V8 was patented in 1902 yet you won't use the same argument against it. Low horsepower is also wrong. 200hp isn't that bad from a 2.0l naturally aspirated 4 cylinder engine.. You can't make as much power out of ej25 as an 2je but this has very little do with the boxer design. It is to do with material choice. EJ25 aluminium vs 2JE cast iron. Aluminium is a better choice if you want a lightweight car but cast iron blocks can make a lot more power. For manufacturers it is all about cost. An inline 4 is cheaper to produce than a boxer engine. That reason alone explains why they are not common.

[@thekingcobra63]

My Subaru is 20 years old, no issue with my boxer , reliable as hell for sure.