The Truth About Britain's Broken Roads | The War On Britain’s Motorists | Dispatches | Channel 4

[@keane2c]

Crazy how all of our cars have to be roadworthy but our roads are far from roadworthy.

[@christopher9727]

... Do you know Jesus Christ can set you free from sins and save you from hell today Jesus Christ is the only hope in this world no other gods will lead you to heaven There is no security or hope with out Jesus Christ in this world come and repent of all sins today Today is the day of salvation come to the loving savior Today repent and do not go to hell Come to Jesus Christ today Jesus Christ is only way to heaven Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today Romans 6.23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. John 3:16-21 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. Mark 1.15 15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Hebrews 11:6 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Jesus

[@BoSSLeVeLs]

well said

[@jammychap]

Our cars are kept roadworthy right up to the point we hit a large pothole......

[@juliesimpson2122]

Exactly!!!!

[@noneofyourbizness]

'Crazy how all of our cars have to be roadworthy but our roads are far from CARworthy.' minor adjustment

[@dappergent9422]

Britain's roads are an utter disgrace. Council tax rises every year, yet the potholes keep getting bigger, like MP's back pockets.

[@ALIH4SH]

You said it 👏

[@ADAM_truthfinderz]

Council tax doesn't actually go to your local council it mainly goes to the politicians 🤔

[@Lionsraws66]

Road tax 🎉

[@Lionsraws66]

You don't drive, do you 😂

[@michaelt8682]

your comment sounds like an AI generated comment from an outraged English bloke. even down to your user name. perfect!

[@Dars2097]

It's not just the worst time to be a British driver, it's the worst time to be British.

[@zoobie2000]

apart from the fact this is the best country in the world

[@Dr.Gunsmith]

@@zoobie2000are you sure…when we got Hamas supporters on our streets and the police do nothing.

[@Gr0nal]

@@zoobie2000 delusional

[@ethyhayes]

​@@zoobie2000when was the last time you visited another country? Because lord believe me, 10 minutes into visiting France you realise how wank Britain is.

[@Answersonapostcard]

@@zoobie2000 yeah, we have the best politics, the best food, the best weather, the best work life balance, and the best economy with everyone onwing their own home and not at all stuggling to make ends meet.

[@aldozilli1293]

I worked on several highways projects. There are several reasons for the mess. 1. Tendering. The lowest bidder generally gets the maintenance contract so budgets are already stretched. 2. Budgets are split between schemes (large jobs like new roundabouts, resurfacing sections of road etc.) and routine maintenance like line painting, drain cleaning and emergency repairs like potholes. The latter is based mainly on the public advising/complaining. Problem is it is all reactionary, few resurfacing schemes as they're expensive. 3. They stopped using the tar seal around pothole repairs which meant they lasted longer, due to environmental issues. 4. Too much money wasted on safety schemes, signage, drawing all sorts of lines on the road and little on maintaining. 5. There are budgets to pay for claims, so when you get a puncture due to a pothole or damage, make sure you claim against the highways authority.

[@owenthomas5103]

I work for councils in different department but exactly the same story. What money is allocated to underlying problems gets spent on contractors and the business of running a contractor rarther than fixing things

[@thedarkknight1971]

CONSIDERING that... Only a couple of decades a go 80-90% of Road Fund Licence (Road Tax) WENT BACK ONTO THE ROADS (new, mods, repeairs)... NOW... LESS THAN 10% does... The rest goes (like the rest of the TAXES we pay) go into 'One BIG pot and divied out' wherever *. ALSO, CHEAP ASS COST CUTTING (like chucking stones down and getting US road users to flatten it out as a way of resurfacing - F@CKING LETHAL for cyclists and Motorcyclists LET ALONE the paint damage and cracked windscreens!!!) THAT'S WHY the roads are like it's been straifed on a bombing run!!! 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 Also, as another point... Remember housing estates with CONCRETE ROADS? (I'm 52, so, yeah, I DO...), one of the quotes I got was, "There are STILL concrete roads laid down in Germany in Hitlers time, that are STILL IN BETTER CONDITION than MOST MODERN 'Tarmac' roads today!" It's like - IT TOOK YEARS to lay down the new A46 dual carriageway between Lincoln and Leicester, YET... Only a few years later after opening, SURFACE REPAIRS WERE NECESSARY! WTF?!?!? *Road Funding facts provided by a relative & friend who have worked combined 50 years in the industry... 😎🇬🇧

[@malcolmturner214]

I was just about to put something very similar until I saw yours and thought spot on , I won’t say what contractor or borough I worked for but in earlier years they had to spend hundreds of thousands at the end of the finance otherwise they would lose out , we was digging up and resurfacing perfectly good tarmac back then just to waste the budget , absolute madness and the amount of waste in councils would make your eyes pop , back in the early day they had a pot hole patrol and we would report any on our travels , I guess that stopped years ago , we couldn’t put signage out and the council had to send two vans and four people who sat all day reading books until we finished and the material cured things got really crazy in my last years on the roads lol

[@MasterMikeSmith]

@@owenthomas5103I’m an entrepreneur and I’m working on a business to try and fix this process, is there any way I could contact you just to ask you a few questions as I’m trying to get my head around how the councils work. I would be so appreciative! Thanks

[@MasterMikeSmith]

Wow this is an incredible insight, I’ve already replied to one of the comments below but I am an entrepreneur and I’m currently trying to build a business focused around this pothole crisis. I would be grateful to speak to you if you’d give me 10 min as I’d love to try to learn a bit more about the process of how these things work, especially around the part you said pothole maintenance is done primarily based on how many people have complained about it. Have I understood that correctly? Is there anyway that I can reach out to you? I can give you my LinkedIn? Thanks so much!

[@itsnotme089]

Travelled last year all over Europe and all I can say is that the UK has the worst roads.

[@k4o5sfc]

They don’t repair potholes correctly. They just dump a bit tarmac and flatten it. They have to address the footings first. They don’t seal it at the end with tar, so water seeps in the edges. For the companies doing this know exactly what they’re doing. The councils needs someone who understands road maintenance. Not some air-head who can only use a pen

[@MareSerenitis]

Exactly this. No-one seals in patches, or hot-rolls them anymore. Since everything was privatised, road repairs have become well intentioned inadequacy at best. Deliberate incompetance to create future work / funding at worst.

[@Dr.Gunsmith]

Exactly and then contract the jobs out and they overcharge and do a terrible job. I know because I know lads that do it and they tell me exactly what’s happening.

[@MrBinabanana]

Go to many European countries or US states in the summer and you'll see them pouring tar into cracks in the road so that water doesn't freeze and blow the road to pieces in the winter. Never seen that happen in the UK; we like to save a little and then spend a lot whilst being massively frustrated and inconvenienced at the same time.

[@davemoss6976]

More important than sealing is cutting a proper vertical joint at the edge. Sealing should be on the vertical face, not on the top, so you would not see a properly sealed joint sealant on the top just cracks in cold weather.

[@severnsea]

I turned into my street yesterday to find a council bloke filling a pothole in near the corner (while the other one sat in the wagon having a fag) - no way of knowing he was there before turning into the street and they didn't even block the road off or put any signs up. People were driving across the tarmac as he was trying to flatten it because there was nowhere else to go. Absolute farce. I haven't had a look since, just on my way out now but I bet it was just filled and left and most of it will have been churned up by traffic before it had the chance to set.

[@davey235]

A pothole may damage your car but could be fatal for a motorcyclist!

[@Befeelinandgivingoodenergies]

It could also cost lives of those driving cars aswell could cause a driver to lose control, especially at night time and in poor driving conditions. When they are not as visible.

[@alanwalker6185]

In fact it was exactly that for a friend of mine in Scotland this week. Last week he hit a pothole on this motorbike, and was thrown into the path of a van & trailer. The injuries he sustained were horrendous, including serious brain damage, and he died on Tuesday this week.

[@colinjava8447]

Anyone going fast on an electric scooter has no chance if they hit one, but they shouldn't be on the road anyway.

[@damoblake6000]

Thats it, government councils etc dont care about cyclists.

[@damoblake6000]

@@colinjava8447 nobody cares about escooters since theyre not insured to be on the roads anyway.

[@AdamBrowne-eg1eb]

A high up councillor retired last year with a £651,000 pension, after serving that job position for a year. They’re rubbing each others backs by promoting each other for the last few years of their service so they can swan off with a massively, completely unnecessary pension package. All the money councils get most of it’s being syphoned off funding the pension packages…it’s an absolute joke. That’s why they’re broke. Their pensions need to be revoked and capped, no one needs hundreds of thousands a year as a pension it’s sickening.

[@edmurth]

Councillors are elected and don’t get paid. Councils are broke because central government has bled them dry.

[@MrTuts4life]

Have you got a source for that? My local councillors get £8k a year.

[@mrwilliecowie]

I`ve been saying this for years but most people just shrug their shoulders all us taxpayers are paying for their luxury pension it`s called theft !

[@Paul-nr6ws]

While people simp for power, no one will take them on. Even the national audit office don't care.

[@edmurth]

Councillors don’t get paid, they only get their expenses paid, stop talking out of your arse.

[@garethjohnstone9282]

I'm so fed up of being absolutely fleeced by the government while getting less and less and less in return. When you go shopping and spend £50 and come home with two bags. When you pay your ever increasing council tax and get told you should be happy you even get your bins emptied. FED UP!!

[@KariCordier]

Totally!!

[@ptonpc]

When you are told to use the recycling bins then are told it will cost you extra for them to be emptied.

[@oliverv305]

Council tax is becoming an absolute rip off when you consider what we pay in income tax etc. What are we really getting in return. There's certainly no value for money at all

[@fromtheblonx]

With ya!

[@Isomoar]

Blame the Tories for asset stripping the UK while taking up said assets and profiting off them, blame the Tories for cutting council funding, blame the Tories...

[@PureMetalNS]

When I was in a town in the French Alps for a couple of weeks back in 2021, they re-paved the entire town in about a week. It was amazing. Properly done too, not just repairs but scalping and laying new asphalt. They had a few crews and would close a road in the morning and work on it until it was finished at night. Seemed like municipal employees too, so no messing around with complicated contracts or a middleman making profit for no good reason. I was amazed, and their roads beforehand weren't at all bad either! Near me the M27 motorway was closed for many months while they 'upgraded' it to a a smart motorway. They finished the work, opened it back up, and now about 4-6 months later the roadworks are back digging up the same area they dug up the first time. It's ludicrous. And the road my parents live on was closed last year for 6 weeks while they painted on a cycle lane and installed a new zebra crossing. Absolutely nothing was done for 5 weeks, then all the work was done in the last week. Why close it and inconvenience people for those extra 5 weeks then? There's such a lack of joined up thinking in the UK, probably because everything goes to the lowest bidder and they're going to do everything as cheap and quick as they can, rather than doing things properly.

[@emiliorodenasgonzalez8568]

Like in spain,but as you have so narrow roads..that kind of machina are impossible to use in the Uk..with branches crossing the whole road.The problem of the UK is the private protección laws. The conciliación cannot make a straight line road because the private properties are sacred.same as raíl tracks and highways.

[@sybentley6675]

I know right. French Italian and Swiss don't seem to have a problem with an Alp? Such an embarrassment.

[@zbduk3936]

Try riding a motorbike through the pothole slalom course that is Britain's roads. The cost is not in just bike repairs, but in injuries and lives.

[@geoffas]

Can you imagine what it's like for me on mobility scooter? The local streets surrounding my housing association flat are like the streets in a land-mined war zone!

[@isaacb8524]

I ride a Honda Grom with 12 inch wheels and now have to plan my routes to avoid bad pothole roads

[@PlebNC]

Sounds like you need to swap from a sportsbike to a dirtbike, lol

[@kylereese4822]

Yea it`s would be safer off-roading with an ATV.

[@westwater73]

Just bought a KTM390 for this very reason...

[@BionicRusty]

In the past 5 years I have had 3 burst tyres and 2 smashed wheels due to potholes. Zurich, who is my council’s insurer state that they have zero liability and offered a court battle. I have had to sell my beloved car and have bought a huge SUV with off road tyres. It’s the only way to go. They don’t care, throw custard in the holes that they DO repair and the holes are back within the month. Our roads are a disgrace. Has anyone driven in France or Spain? Their farm tracks are better than our A Roads. I absolutely mourn our nation. Once admired, now a laughing stock in every sense.

[@Volkhari]

"I have had to sell my beloved car and have bought a huge SUV with off road tyres." Funnily enough, the rise in ownership of extremely heavy SUVs are not doing any good for the road conditions. It's a cycle of the roads being shit, people decide they need an SUV. SUVs are extremely heavy, so the roads get worse, then people decide they need a heavy SUV, and so on.

[@Withnail1969]

Ive noticed that, the potholes come back so quickly.

[@Bazza1968]

I'm on a cycling holiday in Mallorca and their "cami" farm tracks are far better than any A roads in Scotland!!! 300km in 4 days and seen one pothole...The main roads are like F1 race tracks- not that tar and chip bullshit they call resurfacing here that just disintegrates in a year and destroys your paintwork in the process....

[@Withnail1969]

@@Bazza1968 A lot less rain in Mallorca and it hardly ever freezes.

[@Bazza1968]

@@Withnail1969 Most of the knackered roads I see are from utilities companies (cable, fibre, water, electric etc) that are allowed to hack up roads and leave a shitey repair that the council/regional authority that originally surfaced the road now has to deal with.

[@devoncavan6502]

The UK is supposed to be one of the richest countries in the world but their roads as worst than many of third world countries that I’ve been to.

[@Lionsraws66]

Does Africa have road tax 🤔 😂

[@Lionsraws66]

Naive 😂

[@christopher9727]

Do you know Jesus Christ can set you free from sins and save you from hell today Jesus Christ is the only hope in this world no other gods will lead you to heaven There is no security or hope with out Jesus Christ in this world come and repent of all sins today Today is the day of salvation come to the loving savior Today repent and do not go to hell Come to Jesus Christ today Jesus Christ is only way to heaven Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today Romans 6.23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. John 3:16-21 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. Mark 1.15 15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Hebrews 11:6 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Jesus

[@zachareaislam4019]

Exactly the roads is Turkey where beautiful

[@EssyOnYT]

@@Lionsraws66ah yes cus there’s a harmonised tax system for the whole of Africa…

[@soundseeker63]

None of this mess is by accident. Our government has been going out of its way to make motoring in this country as uncomfortable, stressful, inefficient and expensive as possible for decades now. If we had a decent public transport system (outside of London) then that might no be so bad, but for many people driving is the only practical option for getting around, and it is hell! They can always find the money for increased surveillance, LTNs, bike lanes, 20mph zones etc. - All the crap that nobody is asking for. Yet when it comes to keeping the road its self in a safe and decent condition.. no chance! Because that would make life better for us commom plebs in our cars 😖

[@severnsea]

Exactly. Never any money for what is needed but they will suddenly decide some quiet little back streets have to have a 20mph limit, and signs and bollards etc. go up everywhere with the money seemingly plucked out of thin air.

[@greek9244]

Way different in belfast. The car is still king here as cycle, transit and pedestrian infrastructure is not being built for years. I really want belfast to invest more like London, but ofc without the ULEZ bc belfast couldn’t justify that! But what we do have in common is potholes, and I have to avoid them every few metres while cycling or else I’ll be flung into the air 😂 it’s mad!

[@stevencharnock9271]

Central Government are not responsible for the pot hole repairs, have a look at your local council and see where money is being spent on personal little pet projects instead of road repairs. In my area since the council became a rainbow coalition ( essentially Labour controlled) the roads have been ignored and now even the dustbins are not emptied on time with some people not having waste collection for several weeks. A taste of the incompetence to come if Labour win

[@1muk518]

​@@stevencharnock9271Absolutely correct. A survey done a couple of years ago, but the RAC or AA, something like that, found that in the worst area 7 out of 10 were Labour controlled.

[@gdwe1831]

You are delusional. The government isn't that organised, this is purely incompetence and greed

[@PFL44]

The main issue with pot holes is the quality of the repair. Usually the repairs are done by a company subcontracted by the council to fix them. There is zero incentive for the contractor to fix them to a high standard, if they did that there would be little need for them to keep coming out to repair the same pothole and generating more work for themselves. There is an area of road near me which keeps developing pot holes, they come and fill it and 6-8 weeks later it needs another repair.

[@dantownsend4246]

We have the same problems, contractors using substandard asphalt filler.

[@sugipulaboule9]

It's not that my friend

[@thedarkknight1971]

CONSIDERING that... Only a couple of decades a go 80-90% of Road Fund Licence (Road Tax) WENT BACK ONTO THE ROADS (new, mods, repeairs)... NOW... LESS THAN 10% does... The rest goes (like the rest of the TAXES we pay) go into 'One BIG pot and divied out' wherever *. ALSO, CHEAP ASS COST CUTTING (like chucking stones down and getting US road users to flatten it out as a way of resurfacing - F@CKING LETHAL for cyclists and Motorcyclists LET ALONE the paint damage and cracked windscreens!!!) THAT'S WHY the roads are like it's been straifed on a bombing run!!! 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 Also, as another point... Remember housing estates with CONCRETE ROADS? (I'm 52, so, yeah, I DO...), one of the quotes I got was, "There are STILL concrete roads laid down in Germany in Hitlers time, that are STILL IN BETTER CONDITION than MOST MODERN 'Tarmac' roads today!" It's like - IT TOOK YEARS to lay down the new A46 dual carriageway between Lincoln and Leicester, YET... Only a few years later after opening, SURFACE REPAIRS WERE NECESSARY! WTF?!?!? *Road Funding facts provided by a relative & friend who have worked combined 50 years in the industry... 😎🇬🇧

[@bigboldbicycle]

Totally, and not just small patches, but brand new surfaces are failing within 12 months. After 2 years and there are holes everywhere again.

[@sebw1744]

I am subscribing to my own conspiracy theory that the sub contractors are taking part in damaging the roads as well. A cross road near me out of nowhere was completely ripped to pieces overnight. Contractors finally redid it then further up the more potholes magically appeared and they left a massive amountsof tarmac all over the road

[@jonntischnabel]

They just REFUSE to build, and maintain roads properly, because the contractors have been greasing the palms of councillors and MPS. Its public money, so they would rather get an ongoing income, charge way over the odds, make the job poor, and rinse and repeat. Its a disgrace. I know a couple of lads on the local council highways team. Once a year, they cone off a section of dual carriageway,near my house, and strim the grass on the central reservation. The budget for this is nearly 200 grand! 🤬🤯 Who is getting that money? Not the lads doing the work. The whole thing is a scam from top to bottom.

[@Dr.Gunsmith]

Amen 🙏

[@dawber1994]

tell them to get evidence and report it then

[@TheCam920]

@@dawber1994 Why would they? The government is in on it too. The scam is being played on us, not them

[@chrisccc22]

How about making everyone that gets government money, and refuses to get a job, go and fill the potholes?

[@TheCam920]

@@chrisccc22 So CEOs?

[@AndreiGog]

260k for a giant plant pot ? Which MP or it's relative has some sort of gardening services/company ? Somebody need to look into that, it's ridiculous.

[@WorksopGimp]

Plenty of money its just being syphoned off into the pockets of MPs and friends

[@Stuart-qj1ld]

That's exactly what I was thinking 😂

[@londoninhd4430]

Corruption is rife in the uk.. but it's the uk.. so shhhh

[@richarddavis4378]

Exactly, corruption going on there, discounting the land, you could build a house for that amount of money.

[@TheWebstaff]

It's paperwork. Do you have any idea how much pissing around is involved in working for the council / government? Tories claim to be the party cutting red tape but someone forgot to take the red tape off the pen pushers and they have been going mad with power. So there is no competition to drive down prices. And if you try and repair a pothole yourself you'll be lucky to just get a hefty fine!

[@billgates-qi9st]

They cant afford to fix roads but have no trouble feathering their own nests with huge pensions and bonuses.

[@robtheplod]

Stop voting for them then!

[@lordatkinson2046]

@@robtheplodyou can’t if it’s the civil service running the show half the time

[@billgates-qi9st]

@@robtheplod thats the truth and is exactly what we must do.

[@andrewpowell3398]

​@@robtheplod and what's that going to achieve, if we all refuse to vote for these bozos what will happen then? They will just put whoever they want in these high up positions and just continue pushing the same agenda.

[@rodgerhargoon3402]

But their b b c is busy reporting about roads in Africa 😂😂😂

[@angiekucharski4481]

My friend who works for a road laying firm in Lancashire has told me that the repairs to potholes are done using substandard materials and then they charge again to re do the job - watching someone fill a hole and tamp it in with a spade is shocking - where does our road tax go too ?

[@davemoss6976]

It's not road tax. It's vehicle excise duty, goes into the general tax pot, and not to the local councils . Perhaps it would be better if it was a road tax, but it have to be a lot higher.

[@gettogo0159]

@angiekucharski4481 Well it stopped being 'road tax' since 1945!!!

[@jjmmjj9999]

then your friend would've also told you "ROAD TAX" (which was abolished before you were born) doesn't fund pothole repair. In this very documentary, it's said numerous times it's the council tax that does

[@davemoss6976]

@@jjmmjj9999 that's not really true either. Council tax provides only a small proportion of council funding, the biggest part comes from central government grant. Part of the equation for calculating the government grant is the amount of roads the council is responsible for, but the council decides how much to actually spend on roads or other demands. Sometimes major road works are paid for by borrowing. It's complicated, but to get better roads we need to pay more tax , only there is no mechanism for us to pay more and make sure it goes on roads.

[@thedarkknight1971]

CONSIDERING that... Only a couple of decades a go 80-90% of Road Fund Licence (Road Tax) WENT BACK ONTO THE ROADS (new, mods, repeairs)... NOW... LESS THAN 10% does... The rest goes (like the rest of the TAXES we pay) go into 'One BIG pot and divied out' wherever *. ALSO, CHEAP ASS COST CUTTING (like chucking stones down and getting US road users to flatten it out as a way of resurfacing - F@CKING LETHAL for cyclists and Motorcyclists LET ALONE the paint damage and cracked windscreens!!!) THAT'S WHY the roads are like it's been straifed on a bombing run!!! 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 Also, as another point... Remember housing estates with CONCRETE ROADS? (I'm 52, so, yeah, I DO...), one of the quotes I got was, "There are STILL concrete roads laid down in Germany in Hitlers time, that are STILL IN BETTER CONDITION than MOST MODERN 'Tarmac' roads today!" It's like - IT TOOK YEARS to lay down the new A46 dual carriageway between Lincoln and Leicester, YET... Only a few years later after opening, SURFACE REPAIRS WERE NECESSARY! WTF?!?!? *Road Funding facts provided by a relative & friend who have worked combined 50 years in the industry... 😎🇬🇧

[@hl2428]

UK reminds me of Romania in the 90's "I hit a pothole, I got no signal"

[@Duckymack-72]

We are used to driving on the left of the road,now we drive on what's left of them.

[@roberthiggins6401]

That's about right.

[@geoffas]

@@roberthiggins6401 LOL

[@aro4491]

The Romans built roads that can still be used today. Incompetent councils in England can't even manage to fill in holes in their roads. Total incompetence.

[@JWK35]

They built roads that could take the occasional horse and cart. Stick modern multi-tonne vehicle volumes on a roman road and it'll be destroyed very quickly.

[@noneofyourbizness]

not incompetent; corrupt. they know precisely what they are doing and how much it swells their account balances

[@indian-tech-support]

I mean they were just used for walking , which is something you can try.

[@saxon-mt5by]

The problem is councils no longer do their own repairs; they contract the work out to private companies, and there is no check that the repairs have been done satisfactorily. Three potholes outside my house have just been 'repaired' with dollops of cold-set macadam with no attempt to smooth the surface or seal the edges. I could have bought a bag of material from B&Q and done that repair myself for no more than £20 - I bet the cost to the council was into the thousands.

[@dawber1994]

@@JWK35 sounds like you’re sticking up for the incompetence. sound like a fed

[@FDCLDN]

Potholes should be added to Google maps

[@michaelgriffiths5723]

They are on a good at called 'Waze', which is now owned by Google, I believe. It's also great for speed vans and police due to the community nature things are reported

[@findjonmoses]

Google Maps would crash trying to represent the amount of them…the A.I. lady voice would be constantly shouting “Left, Right, Right, Left!” all whilst your on a straight road

[@andybrice2711]

I was wondering recently whether Google maps could use the phone's accelerometer to record them automatically.

[@emilkamenov3899]

Haahah if that happens Google will end up with full storage

[@dennistonrockstone]

I try to report them on Waze as much as possible. It does help

[@andreia.salsinha]

I've been here 13 years and said it since the very start, roads (including motorways) in the UK are ridiculously bad compared to Europe. And whilst my country's A roads have been massively improved over the last decade, Britain's motorways are so poor they don't even compare, let alone secondary rural or city roads. It's pathetic, where is the road tax money going? Not roads.

[@tea2thebagel58]

It's called vehicle excise duty and while a small portion of that goes towards roads it is based off on emissions of your vehicle. Lower emissions, lower cost. Road repair is paid through general taxation we all pay. No such thing as "Road tax"

[@BatCountryAdventures]

Yeah, I drove to France for the Normandy Beaches and it was night and day when compared to British roads. Just wonderful and incredible ride throughout.

[@andreia.salsinha]

@@tea2thebagel58 interesting. What's the car tax then? The one we pay every year to the dvla? Genuinely asking.

[@Renegade1127]

@@tea2thebagel58 Mostly paid from council tax. County Council do 'A' roads, Local Council do the rest. Or at least they are SUPPOSED to do them.

[@Renegade1127]

@@andreia.salsinha Clue is in the name, Vehicle EXCISE Duty. It goes to the treasury's general fund.

[@Bobrogers99]

I live in New Hampshire, USA, and we practically invented potholes. One of the major culprits is poor drainage, and it appears that many UK roads are so narrow that there is no place to put a drainage ditch.

[@emiliorodenasgonzalez8568]

Exactly..that,s the point key.Uk roads have the same design as 60 years ago.Britons never change anything if it can be fixed

[@scottpeterMA]

Small 350cc scooter rider - Road tax low (but not compared with a new Fiesta - why?) Insurance - getting ridiculously high here in the UK, why? Perhaps it's part of the plan to de-motorise the population by pricing ordinary folk off the roads. So, me: age 59. 40 years clean bike (and car) full licence; RoSPA Gold & IAM Advanced (doing Masters training). No convictions etc etc. First few quotes for insurance £400-£500. Got to be kidding!!!!

[@rowan6207]

That’s pretty crazy I’m 23 and my Renault Clio is £922 a year insurance

[@reccerat4446]

Yup, when you look at what's going on it's almost impossible to not think it's all being done on purpose!

[@N4CR]

@@reccerat4446 just stop paying

[@YUSIMUSI]

@@N4CR And then what?? 😂 End up in jail for not going with the 'law'?? There's no escape to these sort of scams unfortunately

[@indian-tech-support]

Worst drivers on the roads and more accidents. Insurance rises to also cover damage caused by potholes.

[@sprintlifecamp]

I cannot wait until I'm in a position to move my family out of the UK. This place is getting worse and worse. 😔

[@getouttamyrowboat5658]

Same here. Me and my partner were talking about moving out of the country a couple days ago. Think it might happen sooner rather than later.

[@escapetheratracenow9883]

Did it 12 years ago and never looked back. Forget Europe unless you are a wealthy pensioner. Post-Brexit you can only stay 90 days at a time here.

[@latinokid33]

Netherlands is where I went to before Brexit kicked in. 6 years later I don’t even want to visit London let alone live.

[@paradisebreeze1705]

Cowards

[@BasedinReality1984]

@@getouttamyrowboat5658come to Australia . More than welcome here

[@danielcunningham6727]

I read some councils are refusing to even fix potholes unless they're so many inches deep yet taxes go up every year....enriching the mps and councillors bank accounts, i suppose

[@raquetdude]

Majority of Councillors don’t get paid though. Shame this video failed to cover the lack of funding that councils get. Change would only occur at a national level

[@danielcunningham6727]

@raquetdude ohhh believe me they get paid one way or another... and most people know how crap the government are already

[@Shand1982]

That's the public sector for you.

[@evanssarpong5310]

That is true, not all pot holes need fixing depending on how Deep it is. If you look at 9:28 I wouldn’t necessarily say that would need fixing

[@Pieces93]

@@evanssarpong5310- I would, any defect in the road surface that is not fixed will inevitably fester and grow and become far worse and far far more expensive to fix. It’s sort of like if you were out doing something and cut your forearm… at first the cut was small and insignificant, but you ignored this cut and eventually it went septic and then gangrenous and then it turned out ur arm from your elbow had to be amputated! That is what u get when the council ignore small potholes.

[@LoveProWrestling]

Hitting a deep pothole full of water when its raining, you cant see it. The cost on car maintenance is ridiculous.

[@mrlegend9225]

Most definitely

[@46FreddieMercury91]

Happened to me on my bicycle. Bent the front forks. Luckily I didn't come off

[@raymawm]

3:10 - Does anyone notice there's no drainage or gullies throughout the road you're driving on? 😂 With poor road bedding, low-quality asphalt, and the road being at a low elevation, there's no way for water to seep away from the surface. This changes the soil behavior beneath the road, creating weak points and causing potholes. It's no surprise there are so many potholes. To solve this problem, surface water drains need to be installed in the area.😂😂

[@chris-ub8in]

So motorists are paying crazy amounts to drive on poorly maintained roads and overpriced fuel but Government and councils do not care.

[@--JinX--]

Absolutely correct

[@raithrover1976]

Road tax and fuel duty go into the general taxation kity that pays for the building and maintenance of trunk roads and motorways that, in my experience as a lorry driver, tend to be in a much better state of repair than town and city street that are maintained from council tax contributions.

[@MFFMPN]

And yet you pay around £7.5 billion in vehicle tax, I wonder how much you pay in fuel tax!! where is all this money going??

[@pbungee]

Of shore bank accounts. Funding wars is basically money washing. ​@@MFFMPN

[@illegalopinions4082]

Of course they don't, because people keep paying

[@mitchyman528]

I hit a pothole that hard today it teleported me back in time to WW2

[@mitchyman528]

@@devilsdestiny2813 Yeah they are actually! I’m not coming back lol

[@thisweekmetaverse]

Not just standing stones that enable time travel then? Potholes too?

[@agar-EU]

Well no doubt, the roads were better then, even though they were full of bomb craters!!!!!

[@mitchyman528]

@@agar-EU that’s what I was trying to get at 😂

[@Stuart-qj1ld]

😂😂😂😂

[@antj29]

Laughing stock of Europe , even Belgium now has way better roads than us and they used to be atrocious

[@geoffas]

There are some really old, really bumpy, cobbled roads in both Britain and Belgium. However, the main roads are much better in Belgium than in the UK. Luckily, I spent a lot of my time riding an on/off road BMW motorcycle during my years out-in-the-sticks in Belgium.

[@johnhutt80]

I went to Thailand in march this year the roads there are much better 😆

[@gordonwebster3809]

i was a mechanic for 48 years never seen anything like this before fancy hitting a pothole in a electric car could be mighty expensive just a thought.

[@user-ft2yz6fy6t]

Or a new BMW M5 with there oil cooler right at the front underneath.

[@simonthomas5367]

This is not new. I live in France and regularly cross the Channel with my car to the UK. The differences in road quality between the UK and France are immediate. Firstly, much denser traffic in the UK. Secondly, the state of the surfaces in the UK. Just awful. The first thing I have to do is turn up the volume on the radio as the ‘French’ volume setting is now way too low due to much increased road surface noise. Heading up to Manchester is very tiring. Constant heavy traffic which ignores lane discipline, not because there are bad drivers in the UK but because there is just so much traffic. Each lane is saturated so lane discipline becomes pointless. Constant roadworks that go on for miles and miles at low, average speed limits with no one working or no heavy machinery visible. The heavy traffic makes it difficult to see potholes. I say potholes but a more appropriate term would be canyons. The awful roadside services which all morph into one giant mix of American coffee or fast food outlets. Nowhere to walk the dog or relax quietly of course as they’re all situated right next to the carriageways. And as I said, this is not new. This has all been happening over the last 10-15 years since austerity hit in 2008. Even with an election, I’m not sure if a new government will have the answers. And certainly not soon enough.

[@kramshiron]

Years of mismanagement, lack of maintenance, greed, and incompetence have led to this.

[@wasimahmed215]

Thank the tories

[@kylereese4822]

I wonder how many have called to police for the accident damage and for the police to say speeding was involved ??

[@thedarkknight1971]

CONSIDERING that... Only a couple of decades a go 80-90% of Road Fund Licence (Road Tax) WENT BACK ONTO THE ROADS (new, mods, repeairs)... NOW... LESS THAN 10% does... The rest goes (like the rest of the TAXES we pay) go into 'One BIG pot and divied out' wherever *. ALSO, CHEAP ASS COST CUTTING (like chucking stones down and getting US road users to flatten it out as a way of resurfacing - F@CKING LETHAL for cyclists and Motorcyclists LET ALONE the paint damage and cracked windscreens!!!) THAT'S WHY the roads are like it's been straifed on a bombing run!!! 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 Also, as another point... Remember housing estates with CONCRETE ROADS? (I'm 52, so, yeah, I DO...), one of the quotes I got was, "There are STILL concrete roads laid down in Germany in Hitlers time, that are STILL IN BETTER CONDITION than MOST MODERN 'Tarmac' roads today!" It's like - IT TOOK YEARS to lay down the new A46 dual carriageway between Lincoln and Leicester, YET... Only a few years later after opening, SURFACE REPAIRS WERE NECESSARY! WTF?!?!? *Road Funding facts provided by a relative & friend who have worked combined 50 years in the industry... 😎🇬🇧

[@Fieldsonyoutube]

One of the big problems is they fill a hole up yes, but they also do not work around the hole and cut the edges and do a proper job

[@TomCravenUK]

I hit a pothole so hard I had to apologise to my car!

[@GAS1200]

Worst roads in Europe.......Shame on you Councils

[@fritzlange7934]

...that have had their budgets reduced by 40% by the Tory central government. Focus on the real culprit: vote them out on the 4th of July!

[@skagamnesia1972]

I did pot hole repairs for the council, what annoyed me was driving past potholes you were told not to fill as they were next years.

[@simonh6371]

It's more than just potholes in the roads, it's flooding when it rains because the councils don't maintain storm drains, water from our taps not safe to drink (just the last days there was a cryptosporidium outbreak in London), sewage discharging into rivers, parks and public spaces overgrown and not maintained...yet there is money for stupid things like painting rainbow colours on the roads. We seem to be descending into third world conditions...well, hardly surprising when you look at who is working in our councils and other services.

[@indian-tech-support]

Blame central gov

[@cornishalps9870]

something something global warming...

[@illegalopinions4082]

​@@indian-tech-supportPlenty of blame for both

[@brad7957]

invite the third world, become the third world

[@robtheplod]

People are voting for this, that's the problem

[@stunews2903]

If Sunak had chased the £29 billion fraudently obtained during furlough, we could have roads like the rest of Europe.

[@MFFMPN]

The government makes £7.5 billion in vehicle tax annually and I couldn’t imagine the £10s or £100s of billions in fuel tax you all pay!!

[@indian-tech-support]

@@MFFMPN no vehicle tax

[@MFFMPN]

@@indian-tech-support what do you mean “no vehicle tax”?? I’m talking about the UK🇬🇧 where every vehicle has to be tax, mot and insured annually!!

[@indian-tech-support]

@@MFFMPN It is called ved and is based on the amount of co2 and other gases emitted. Electric cars are exempt. It is not used to repair roads and is collected like general taxation. Heavier the vehicle the more damage that occurs. Suv are growing and are damaging the roads even more.

[@YllaStar95970]

​@@MFFMPN You are talking to a bot.👍

[@peterstaykov9670]

3rd world dump.""

[@Ymma58]

Importing 3rd world dump, on dinghy boats

[@realMaverickBuckley]

Yup. Import the 3rd world, become the world. Enjoy it UK .

[@Judith-c6r]

Councils have a legal obligation to maintain our roads, why are they getting away with not maintaining them to a specific standard. I think two weeks ago a driver in Kent was killed when he had to swerve to avoid a pothole. My local authority had to pay over £6K to repair suspension damage on a sports car. Instead of using contractors councils should employ their own teams as the roads have become so bad.

[@001Neal100]

In West sussex, some roads have such poor road condition, that the accident rate is increasing. Instead of fixing the roads properly the council is logging the accidents as evidence for reducing the speed limits! We have proposed speed limit decreases popping up everywhere.

[@T.K.9]

Tell me about it. In Wales, everyone with a vehicle pays for road tax. But the potholes are getting crazier. And not repaired. All I see, money wasted on replacing 30mph sign with 20's then now more money wasted reverting some of them back to 30. Or council removing a traffic lights controlled crossing to be transferred 5 metres down the road where it was originally from. And they took 4 months to do that. While in Finland, a more complicated road works are done in 2 freaking DAYS! with a crew of 4!

[@ErinStephanie-mf2qk]

Britain has spent 60 years reshaping a small island, with limited space for increased road capacity, its economy and its society, around the automobile. Everything else - public transportation and space for pedestrians- an after thought. Car usage has grown exponentially. As has the size and weight of newer models. Many homes are now three to four car household. Which has put more strain on roads. Meaning you fill one pothole, and it won’t be long before it reappears. The cost of road maintenance has gone through the roof, and the cost won’t come down for the foreseeable future. Whatever did you think was going to go wrong? Until the elephant in the room, that there are too many cars on the road, the frustrations and anxieties will continue.

[@MrMuz99]

The roads have never been great, but you're right, look at the amount of cars that are on the roads now!

[@N4CR]

ALmost all road damage is from heavy vehicles. Not EVs and heavy luxury cars weighing a few tonnes.

[@MrMuz99]

@@N4CR - So only big heavy vehicles can cause damage, huh?

[@gxqx797]

​@@N4CRno its weather dependent too. Rain is terrible for it. But its mostly the dogshit quality asphalt they're using these days.

[@harrietsnowball4981]

No sorry thats such a let off! There are almost the same amount of cars on the road as in 2010! The difference is 14 years of a tory government. Can you name one thing that is better than in 2010. The roads in 2010 were in really good condition. The amount of cars is a different matter. I for one am furious that we put up with being sh*t on left right and centre

[@zeb3144]

Try driving in Cambridgeshire-the roads look like they've been ploughed.

[@MrHowardy]

£1000 in the last 12 months in suspension repairs due to the road conditions.

[@billmartins5545]

UK roads are the worst I've seen in Europe. I've driven through potholes that were so steep and deep it kind of jolted my whole vehicle. If you don't see the pothole coming, you get a huge frighten and I initially thought my tyre had exploded. Shameful. But Britons have such a low standard for lots of things: teeth, healthcare, housing quality, littering, fly tipping, parking (blocking pavements, drives, and even roads itself). So utterly shameful.

[@shutinyanks]

As a motorcycle rider its not even feasible to go anywhere in the UK without the threat of potholes. It's a constant battle to keep a lookout for them. I've seen riders go down at 60mph (national speed limit) due to potholes and end up seriously hurt.

[@PixelLife101]

national speed limit is 70mph. Only 60 on smaller roads.

[@shutinyanks]

@@PixelLife101The national speed limit is 70 mph (112 km/h) on motorways, 70 mph (112 km/h) on dual carriageways, 60 mph (96 km/h) on single carriageways (smaller roads as you call them) But point being a 125cc will have a hard time keeping that speed

[@gjs321]

In Devon the roads are also appalling - full of potholes - and most repairs are useless, with many "repaired" 3 times within a year. The Council and Government lie - plenty of money around for cameras and devices to monitor and persecute motorists - but nothing for roads. Direct action needed - lets all stop paying car tax, they cant sue all 34 million of us

[@jimmyjt16]

The roads are a joke at the minute. I cannot remember them being so bad. It’s neglect. I drove through Leeds city Centre today and couldn’t believe how bad the road surface was.

[@samconway2326]

I live in leeds and can definitely verify this. It's absolutely shocking.

[@jimmyjt16]

@@samconway2326 couldn’t believe how bad the city and outer ring roads were. It was like driving through a 3rd world city. Really surprised me.

[@geoffas]

You should see the 'quite backstreets' where I live in south Leeds. Totally neglected, and there are no heavy lorries to take the blame.

[@zadekeys2194]

Those "in charge" need to be held accountable, personally.....Not only in the UK, but globally...

[@Durnyful]

Yes. What is going on wrt road maintenance? I told someone in crete the roads were better there. He didn’t believe me... when i returned to Gatwick i drove to Crowborough... with 15 mins i realised i was right! Ridiculous potholes, missing bits of surface etc etc

[@friendlybrits5952]

Wait am I missing something 8.3 billion is enough to resurface 5000 miles of roads so 1.6ish million a mile... Who the hell they paying to do that seems quite excessive in costs

[@raquetdude]

Cost cutting and austerity means that councils have to outsource to private firms. They can’t permanently keep the staff on so they hire them when they need them… conservative economics

[@harambae7014]

Like every element of government spending, I imagine most of it is pissed up the wall on middle management and "consultancy". When you're spending money that's not your own on things for other people to use, you care about neither cost nor quality.

[@daveclarke100]

They will be hiring emergency pothole repair companies owned by MP's and their mates of course :D

[@ryanshaw3268]

I think there paying the gypsies to do it 😂hence why the price is so high and they need re-repairing later down the line 😂

[@dazt5831]

@@daveclarke100 exactly and to make sure theres future business they will fill the potholes with the cheapest nastiest thinnest materials they can find so they last just long enough to look okay before the same company comes back around and redoes the same job again a few months later

[@AntiWokeXyCitizen]

My local SNP council doesn't repair them properly, they send a team out with a bucket of asphalt quickly patch it and a few weeks later it's back again. That's the norm here.

[@kzm1934]

Yeah they're too busy passing laws which means 7 years for saying mean things in your home.

[@gmathieson7184]

Pot hole repairs here in central belt are an absolute joke. I've seen them "fix" a pothole around a drain cover, by turning it into a ridiculous shaped speed bump instead. I have no road work experience and even I could have at least made the thing flush with the equipment they had. 6ft up the road there's an almost identical repair... perfectly done, smooth, level, looks like it'll last a while. Surely that's the quality control right there, are you not looking at that one 6ft away and saying to yourself why doesn't ours look like that? We've done this wrong, or got the wrong materials. I know its not always the workers fault (although in some cases it is, it feels like they've lost the skilled/knowledgeable generation of workers) but fuck me i'd have a red neck if anyone in my local community seen me go and do that as a "fix" while i got paid off their tax money to do so. Absolutely no pride in their work. Cause plenty of mayhem on the roads... but don't give a toss how they put them back together. Councils are taking all the money, closing everything down, or cutting spending on everything from a to z... yet the council workers are all given brand spanking new work vans to shag about the local community. Someone somewhere is choosing certain repair companies to continually go out and do the repairs... terribly... i cant help but feel there's a bit of a racket going on with our tax money.

[@Debbiebabe69]

Thats the problem. Instant macadam does NOT fix a pothole.

[@wba9652]

Another problem is also these cowboys 'repairing' them.. they repair these road with such poor material and effort in order to increase their profits so they can just come back to it in another year and do the same repair and bill the council again... never ending cycle.

[@danielcunningham6727]

Exactly they closes my whole road off for multiple days 6 months ago to resurface the road fast forward 6 months and there's already potholes the size of planet earth in them again.

[@wba9652]

​@@danielcunningham6727Like i said mate. They wanna do the poorest repair possible with the cheapest of materials. There needs to be dedicated goverment repairers with minimum guidelines of repair and materials. But that won't happen as these cowboys are probably best mates with the higher ups at the councils !

[@BoredomIncarnate1]

I've been avoiding certain roads for years now, as I don't want to buckle my bicycle wheels, nor wreck my car's suspension. Even when they do fix the potholes, they do shoddy work, it crumbles away or sinks within a matter of weeks.

[@rinnniiiii]

Many of the worst potholes in our area have been sat with yellow boxes around them earmarked for rapairs for months. Meanwhile they get bigger and more potholes form around them. Huge cracks have been appearing and some roads nearly collapsing due to the lack of repairs. Ironically many of the repairs that are eventually carried out end up being useless because other potholes around it don't qualify for repairs because they "aren't deep enough" and the tarmac used to fill the larger pothole gets kicked out by traffic passing over. The dirt tracks in the Australian outback would be smoother to drive on

[@WorksopGimp]

LTNs are a nightmare for delivery drivers and strangers to the area trying to find a way out

[@checker3694]

The reason councils can't afford pot hole repairs, 8 people and three vehicles sent out on repairs, 6 out of 8 of the workers can't bend over to tie there shoe laces, because they are so inactive. 20 years ago 2 men and one 7.5 tonne tipper with tarmac and roller did same thing.

[@westleycharringate9526]

I have an Electric car, and it was cheap to run when I bought it. It’s now more expensive to charge than ever. I’ve decided to change the car for a self charging petrol hybrid. Petrol is cheaper for long distance journeys.

[@niksgee3538]

Well... You can't comply your way out of an agenda.

[@skhan3855]

If she's struggling in a G wagon with those off-road tyres, imagine what it must be like in a car with low profile tyres?

[@aeropunk4127]

One problem with potholes that people seem to be overlooking is that the situation is being compounded by the weight and number of cars these days. The increase in the number of heavy SUVs, Electric vehicles and 4x4s means the roads are being worn out significantly quicker than even 10 years ago. Back in the 50s tests showed that the damage to a road increased by the power of 4 with the weight of the vehicle, i.e, a 2 ton SUV does 16 times as much damage to a road as a 1 ton car. This is the Fourth Power Law, details here - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_power_law This means that our cash strapped councils need to completely redesign and rebuild our roads, not just fill in the holes.

[@tidgney]

What I find most insane is I approached the council and said can I pay to repair the pothole outside my house (It shakes my house when HGV go over it). Yes, I said I'LL pay... and they still won't allow it!

[@Savagetechie]

If you are willing to pay just repair it, don't involve the council at all... Or send them a bunch of photos and an invoice after the fact.

[@tidgney]

@@Savagetechie Unfortunately that's not possible as I'd have to close half the road while it's done, which is why I went down the official route (It's spread across a large portion of the road).

[@Savagetechie]

@@tidgney anybody can apply for a TTRO.

[@andrewhood5539]

My job takes me on almost every road in the UK. The number of motorways with potholes and, in particular, badly constructed surfaces. Motorways should be smooth with a consistent surface.

[@juniusvindex769]

I hit a pothole a few years ago my front spring snapped and punctured a brand new tyre. Luckily I was doing 30, the worrying thing was I had my two kids in the car and they literally freaked out. The front of the car dropped, after the bang, and swerved into the kerb. The car was written off. Strange thing was a fortnight before I tore the inside of a tyre on my work van ( I knew I had hid the pothole as it was a notorious single track road) it failed the mot a few days later the tyre was 3 months old.......... I never knew you could claim from the council 🙄

[@HA05GER]

Not worth the hassle trying to claim from the council they will do everything to work out of it.

[@jukeboxjohnnie]

My Stellantis Peugeot van is absolute rubbish. Adblue tank failure, adblue sensor failure, fuel injectors needing replacing, serious oil leaks from engine, voltage battery issues. You fix something it needs doing again in a few months. Just shocking, hundreds and hundreds of pounds in repairs. DONT BUY A STELLANTIS VEHICLE if you want trouble free motoring

[@lorrainebedson7261]

I live in the north west, my council is Wigan, they do try to sort the pot holes but they just stick a bit of tarmac in it and hope for the best. Obviously there are lots of potholes all over the country, the problem we have in my area is that there is a DVLA Test Centre that is utilised by not only cars and motorcycles but HGV's so around that area there are cars and bikes and lorries all having lessons most of the day so as fast the holes are filled they are broken up within days.

[@bobroberts6155]

A programme discussing potholes and electric cars should have covered the link between road destruction and the excessive weight of EVs.

[@MePeterNicholls]

This is not correct. There is no link. The roads are in such a state due to constant cutting of funding by central government to local councils. It really is as simple as that. The weight issue is completely exaggerated. People have been moving to bigger and heavier cars full stop. But the amount of trucks and Lorrie’s on the roads is greater than ever too. On average the weight increase for EVs is around 10%, and as they are still a small proportion of the overall amount of cars on the road, absolutely not anything to do with the growing pothole issue,

[@bobroberts6155]

@@MePeterNicholls Let's look at the Peugeot 208 as an example, a small hatchback which is available with either a petrol engine or as an electric car. If you go for the 1.2-litre petrol model, it tips the scales at 1,090kg. On the other hand, the all-electric e-208 with its 50kWh battery weighs in at 1,910kg, almost double the amount.

[@cornishalps9870]

@@bobroberts6155 Mate you took unladen weight for the 208 and the gross for the e, hardly a fair comparison. Plus it's the really heavy vehicles that do the damage. A 9 ton vehicle will do 400 times more damage to the roads than the average car. Or 220 times that of an electric car.

[@bobroberts6155]

@@cornishalps9870 On average, an EV weighs 200-300kg more than a petrol car because of the weight of the battery and electric motors. Of course larger vehicles and HGVs do more damage than cars (and these will be massively heavier if electrified). This does not counter the argument that if all passenger car traffic on rural roads and over old bridges were to weigh on average 30% more, increased road damage is bound to result. I am not anti E.V. per se but fanatical defence of their faults is not helping the conversation.

[@cornishalps9870]

@@bobroberts6155 we should all ride bicycles then as they cause 17000 times less damage. We are talking about a fourth power rule here. That Peugeot 208e is the same weight as my Citroen Berlingo, I know which one I'd rather have.

[@KarlBraveman]

I gave up having a motorbike.... too dangerous because of all the potholes

[@finbar481]

With your name I thought you would have carried on. Only joking pal, I did the same, sold my motorbike last year. Same reason as you.

[@Drobium77]

I've ridden for 28 years now and no longer can thrash about the lanes as they are too bad to ride safely. It's such a shame. And the worst of the potholes seem to be on roundabouts, where you have to lean the bike right over to get round, but you can't due to the bloody pot holes, so you end up at walking pace sometimes just to stay safe!

[@paradisebreeze1705]

Get an offroader

[@geoffas]

@@paradisebreeze1705 That _may_ help, but riding an 'offroader' is very different to riding a roadster. I've had both in my time.

[@PixelLife101]

I'd say its fine to ride a motorcycle atm. Potholes aren't that hard to avoid on two wheels, but I'm only 23 so all my motoring life I've been avoiding craters.

[@RegiyThornton]

Funny how the roads get redone in the rich areas

[@Christina-g4s]

Their the ones that actually pay council tax.

[@Frank_Nemo]

Yeah? East Sussex is not exactly a poor area!

[@majordelays4909]

I’ve been in France and Spain since end of May. Riding a motorcycle over 3000 miles. The roads here are beyond perfection for 90% and the rest are good. I’ve barely seen a pothole anywhere and where you do it’s in the Pyrenees rural locations which has likely had a snow and icy winter. There are teams of men working up and down the length of France and they seem to repair pothole and cracks within hours. Travelling in and out of Andorra the same day I found the road was fixed by evening where it was cones and being treated at lunch. No long term coned off unattended closed roads. I get a sense that every thing just runs to perfection, bar the Spanish farmers road blocks. But even then police where facilitating. Honestly my stay here makes me regret to come home to Blighty. Travel here couldn’t be better.

[@Testroutesuk]

I am a driving instructor and I spend 8 to 10 hours a day on London road. Trust me these potholes are a massive pain as well as those LTNs. By creating LTNs they created HTNs (High traffic neighbourhood) every where else. So much working hours are lost unproductive in the traffic. Also it is not fair for the people live on the borderline with LTNs because now their road are much much busier than before. As a driving instructor I am forced to stay on those busy roads and breath more polluted air than before.

[@dazzieboi5430]

the ultimate goal is we don't own cars plain and simple LTN's nd ULEZ are just cash grabs

[@glenn1534]

The number of private vehicles being used every day is contributing to the damage of the UK's roads. If more people used public transport or car-shared, it would reduce the damage and require less repairs of the roads.

[@geoffas]

@@glenn1534 Have you been on public transport recently?

[@CyrilSneer123]

@@glenn1534 A large contribution to that road damage comes from lorries and heavier vehicles such as vans. Essential for the economy. Public transport is hopelessly inadequate.

[@glenn1534]

@@CyrilSneer123 there are a greater number of private vehicles that are doing equal damage because of the number of them. Also, the cancellation of major infrastructure projects such as HS2 increases the number of HGVs on the road due to lack of capacity on existing lines. Repairing potholes as they appear isn't a long-term solution for the number of potholes on the roads.

[@salehothman449]

How about maintenance and STOPPING CORRUPTION? ​@@glenn1534

[@ausravelo]

Roads in Eastern Europe are better than in UK. :D

[@Christina-g4s]

Roads in Gaza are better

[@ryand141]

Just go up to Wales if you want to see how bad a road can become (specifically, the area around Mold). Of course, the neoliberals in government will say it's your fault, take responsibility as a citizen. Stop driving on them and making them bad.

[@stormytempest6521]

Just how bad is it up there, had a caravan on site off Denbigh Road, goin for a run out soon , was there for years , haven't been up there for years, wasn't that bad back then.

[@ryand141]

@@stormytempest6521 Roads need to maintained. They're the worst of any country I've ever been.

[@BionicRusty]

Yep. I’m just down on the coast, near Prestatyn, and the A548, Coast Road, is an absolute disgrace. We have a completely ineffective council and they just laugh at you when you complain. Zero responsibility, is what they say. ‘Take us to court if you think you’re rich enough’. 😡

[@ryand141]

@@BionicRusty I was on that road about a month ago. I said to myself, never again. Disgraceful. That's like most councils. They are the biggest joke. This is coming from a tourist. It's seriously bad for business. The economy of that area will lose money, so you can blame the council for that also.

[@WeAreTheTrueMedia]

I live just outside Mold and completely agree how bad the roads are and incompetent the council are.

[@davidebacchi9030]

Here (Italy, measures in km/h) is worse: councils lower limits from 90 to 50 (and leave 50) because of potholes, they if fixed they usually donut fix them properly (they just add some tarmac instead of fixing the foundation) then add speed traps . Also if you live in the same town where you hit the pothole you don’t get compensated because “you’d have had to know it was there”. As an Italian driver, what I see on this video are samples of quite avoidable potholes (at least in dry weather)

[@benhaz5006]

Drove to poland last year through many small villages and never came across roads as bad as here

[@Lionsraws66]

My council in Enfield has let the borough fall into a shit hole. When i grew up, this was not the case . The labour council has done a great job. As they now try to lease our public green belt to Tottenham hotspur for women's football training facilities. 😡

[@Robin-sc1lf]

It is cheaper for councils to pay compensation to drivers that make claims than resurface the roads in their towns so in true council logic, fuck taxpayers.

[@dantownsend4246]

Even cheaper if council fights claims with council paid lawyers

[@barrieshepherd7694]

They don't pay though. Lawyers bounce 80% of all claims it said.

[@chrismcgoldrick1378]

I live in the UK & work in California 2-3 months a year. The roads are way worse in California!

[@geoffas]

Especially the roads off of the main highways.

[@i_am_kochero]

Gov has declared a war to motorists to hurt them however they can 🤬

[@realMaverickBuckley]

Electric cars are also 40% heavier and traffic has increased massively, including heavier vehicles, like Articulate Lorries..

[@robertfoster6070]

If it’s mandatory for vehicles to be roadworthy why is it not mandatory for roads to be vehicle-worthy.

[@LordWalsallian]

Vehicle Excise Duty has never been used for transport and road infrastructure and is basically put into the “General Taxation” budget. This has been the case since the 1930s. It should be used for road repairs and transport projects and being given to Local Councils if they are the ones responsible for road repairs.

[@SingleTheShot]

would barely pay a fraction of it

[@B9_S4]

The roads really are terrible

[@Adam-zd2bk]

£265k for a flower bed?

[@trevorphillips3055]

Plus, the infrastructure to enable them to catch you driving where you shouldn't & administer the fines. It soon pays for itself and starts making money!

[@jamesklassen5285]

In what universe does it cost $265k for some wood, dirt and plants? Some people are definitely making out like bandits. That amount of $$ astounds me.

[@SingleTheShot]

@@trevorphillips3055 so true which is why they dont even make half the cost of installation according to the documentary you supposedly watched

[@PlebNC]

A flower bed on a reinforced bollard, yes.

[@Holycurative9610]

We had a couple of potholes fixed after over 20 residents complained over a 4 month period. 2 vans and 7 blokes turned up to fix 2 potholes, this is why it costs so much to do, and the potholes they fixed are now potholes again after about 6 months. The repairs aren't permanent, they're temporary patches that solve the problem short term and do poorly long term...

[@johnb6723]

If the potholes are causing problems, one piece of advice is as follows - slow you down!

[@jamesdean1143]

Potholes were repaired properly by council employees. Another failure of Thatcher’s “private does it better”.

[@keithrobinson5752]

Oddly under your favourite hate character there was a lot less potholes 😳

[@geoffas]

Private does do it 'better'... unless the public employees use their cousins and friends to do it, of course.

[@Afc1987]

I would never buy a electric car they are the biggest con on the market the repairs would be soo expensive

[@harambae7014]

Not to mentioned they're also heavier than ICE cars, so they create more wear and tear on roads, making the pothole problem worse.

[@sharmarkerashad3483]

Firstly always buy a used electric car that is 3-4 years old, when you factor in the huge depreciation of electric cars you can get a discount of between 30% to 50% on a used electric car compared to buying new. The most important cost factor for me has been the massive reduction in fueling my car, it costs me £4.85 to get a range of 260 miles (I nearly always charge to 80%). The only reason why this is so low is due to the fact that I a) have installed a 7kwh home charger as I'm lucky to have a private garage and b) I only charge my car from 12am to 6am which is when I get the cheapest electricity rates. Another positive cost factor is when I take my car to servicing, it's very true electric cars have less servicing costs because they have less moving parts compared to ICE cars. As a result I rarely pay a huge amount for repairs. Also staying on the topic of potholes my electric car has a useful radar function that warns me of any uneven surfaces on the road which I find can also detect some potholes! So I'm able to either slow down or avoid them all together, meaning that I avoid a hefty repair bill. Finally, another important point to note is I've been a electric vehicle driver for the last 6 years. During those past 6 years I have benefited heavily from government subsidies in the tune of £1,000s in fact I was able to get a home charger installed at a 80% discount! However as the years go past there are now less and less subsidies being offered by the government for transitioning to electric cars. In my opinion this is really unfair as I've seen from the past 6 years the people that have benefited the most from these subsidies have been company directors that have brought high end electric cars via their business and now that regular folks can start to afford electric cars, these subsidies are disappearing! One final point to consider is what will happen when everyone is driving an EV and the government is no longer getting it's much needed tax revenue through fuel duty? - Will they be introducing an electricity-levvy to recoup that lost tax revenue? - which would most certainly increase the cost of our household energy bills...

[@Phill-hn2cg]

@@harambae7014not sure they are heavier, a Tesla model y is 1995kg yet an equivalent bmw x3 has a curb weight of 2270kg

[@noxu6368]

​@@Phill-hn2cg says x3 wwighs 1790kg bruv

[@Silversolstice548]

I also wonder what happens to the batteries, and the cars, once thr batteries stop working as they all do as they get older

[@jonathancollard3710]

C4… good content, please make more of this kind of stuff….

[@sugipulaboule9]

NO,,,, wake up

[@SB-tp3yw]

mobile tyre guy here, going out to lots of people with flat tyres from pot hole damage. it’s almost always the wheel that gets damaged also. a tyre might be 50-200 quid but new wheels can be thousands

[@MarkLeabon]

They are hypocrites. How can they have speed cameras for safety everywhere but not maintain and keep the roads safe.

[@mgbroadsterJ]

They can afford to install speed cameras but not repair the roads .

[@thejdemon]

In the last year I've snapped both back coil springs on my suspension. Council going to pay for repairs? Don't be silly, "it's not deep enough".... disgusting.

[@scottlawson9027]

The more I see about Britain and how it's turned out to be. I don't even want to return to my hometown in Scotland. There is nothing that gives me any hope to want to return, not even on holiday. Between shitty roads, acceptance on gender non-conforming, attitude towards countries at war, politics, over the top train ticket costs, unhealthyness.

[@sugipulaboule9]

My friend,,,, it's not about that,,,, soon will reach everywhere, I can't say what I want here

[@laurawalker1509]

So true. I live in East Sussex and one of those potholes heavily punctured my tire on the way to a running event. I thought that it was OK at first, but when I drove away from the event (after parking for 7 hours) it literally flew off.

[@dcstanda]

Another thing is car insurance keeps going up which is another added factor for drivers trying to cut costs