'The Truth About Ciri In The Witcher 4' From Neon Knight - Luke Reacts

[@boofnt]

I think Neon is spot on with the escaping her destiny theory. And that she isn't able to completely get rid of her elder blood "curse". Fits with the monster in the trailer (who feeds on people's insecurities) telling her that "fate cannot be changed". And also the teaser from one of the devs with the coin that says "the blood remains the same". As long as they tell it in a way that doesn't feel cheap, I'm all for it.

[@christschess7069]

19:50 Before the final battle in the Witcher 3, there is a quest where you have to help Ciri and meeting some of the friends she made in Novigrad. At the end of which, Geralt and Ciri have a conversation, where she basically tells Geralt that she hates having these powers, because it deprived her of ever living a normal live. Being a Witcher is anything but normal, but she did point out (and I think more than once) that she'd much rather get rid of those powers, if she had the choice.

[@TheGamefreak612]

exactly. everything was laid out to an extent. Ciri doesn't want to be the center point of Destiny. The MCguffin that everyone wants in order to control something or another. Being a witcher is everything to her because when she was growing up Geralt, Vessimer, Lambert and Eskel made her feel normal in Kaer Morhen. The hate is just irrational

[@TraphikHD]

@@TheGamefreak612you don’t see the irony in that? She’s literally still going to be the same type of character as a Witcher with or without the over powered bloodline crap.

[@AnonIllumi]

DONT FORGET IN THE CIRI ENDING AT CORVO BIANCO AND SHE ADMITS TO TAKING WITCHER POTIONS AFTER HER FIRST CONTRACT.

[@mhosni86]

@@TraphikHD She hates her blood not because of the power it provides her in battle. She hates this elder blood because it's why every kingdom in this world and beyond chases her to get. Vilgeforts in the books literally says that he would leave Ciri alone if she gives him her uterus. The whole purpose of the Elder Blood was the prophecy. Ciri fulfilled that prophecy in the end of The Witcher 3. It's time now for Ciri to have true agency in her life.

[@scully4life]

Good point. In the books, she was subject to some pretty horrific experiences at the hands of people who were trying to exploit her power (look up Leo Bonhart, that shit was hard to read). So, not only does it become clear to her that she'll never have a normal life, but it will likely be quite the opposite (and not in a good way).

[@xe11d]

They will definitely address her being a witcher. My guess is this will tie in nerfing her actual powers lorewise as she is OP

[@alus992]

Her becoming a Witcher is a best way to nerf her. Everyone who was playing TW3 years ago was like "the game is so lame now. It's boring because she is op". Now there is a reason to play as Ciri who is notnOP anymore without cliche "oh she forgot everything and you have to re learn every skill throughout the game to again be OP"

[@dr_diddy]

​@@alus992yh, I'm wondering what other concepts they had though. going through the trials makes sense but it would be a shame if all her powers were gone.

[@shary1116]

Exactly what I was thinking. Her power is due to her elder blood the mutations altering her blood is a good excuse for her being nerfed.

[@CedarHunt]

Wow, that's a terrible idea.

[@moonknightish]

She's OP in gameplay, not in story.

[@ohfiddlesticks6073]

Call me crazy, but I’d prefer to wait until I’ve played the game before judging whether or not it was a good idea to make her a Witcher.

[@4589dude]

Thank you

[@MakerInMotion]

Yeah there should be enough good will in the bank from the Witcher 3 that a teaser trailer doesn't make people rush to judgement. The same thing happened with the Ghost of Yotei trailer. The love for Ghost of Tsushima didn't inspire the faith it should have.

[@young_ronnib1074]

Thank God someone with a brain

[@onabiv]

I didn't need to play concord to know it was bad. I am NOT comparing the two, just making a point. She didn't act like Ciri, she didn't look like Ciri and she was doing things Ciri shouldn't be doing. I'd say that's enough for legitimate concern. It's up to them to prove otherwise if they want my money. More gamers should be judging games before they drop money on them. The fact that they don't is why AAA gaming is in such a horrible state right now.

[@Mohamad033]

THANK YOU, sure we can speculate, but some people are straight assuming and seem sure that it's going to be bad

[@danielandreverkland9905]

As for why she became a Witcher, I think witchers being sterile is a reason. Knowing that powerful people knows they can't cultivate her Elder bloodline might give her some peace of mind. Potentially preventing the continuation of the Elder blood in itself might be a reason for her turning. Due to the wars, deaths and all that.

[@nickryan7877]

I kind of assumed that maybe the reason Ciri's powers are absent in the reveal trailer is because after the defeat of the White Frost her Elder Blood powers have been diminished and that's why she feels she needs to take on some form of the Trial of the Grasses. I suspect that after she goes through the Trial her Elder Blood powers will be enhanced, and we will be able to get abilities through like a specific Elder Blood Skill tree. That's at least my theory for why maybe she goes through the Trial.

[@Ashbrash1998]

I think in the books she went through some form of it with Yennefer intentionally limiting it to not affect her fertility.

[@mhouse1712]

​@@Ashbrash1998 I have read all of the books multiple times, and that never happened. Where the hell are you people getting this idiotic idea from?!?! Stop simping for idiots that are ruining entertainment to push moronic political messages. The closest to something like that happening was when Ciri was in the forest with the dryads, and Queen Eithné was going to transform Ciri into a dryad, but it didn't work, most likely due to her Elder Blood, or due to some protective magic of fate, which, according to the lore of the series, is what bound her and Geralt together, as well as her parents, Vesimir and Geralt, etc., etc., etc. CD Projekt Red has seriously lost its way, and most of the people that made The Witcher 3, among other games, are no longer there. I won't support this now-trash development studio, as the developers lost my trust with Cyberpunk 2077's launch. Regardless of what the game became, to hell with the studio. While I always hope for every game to come out and be great avenues of entertainment, no company, person, or group of people will have of trust, or my money, without proving they are worthy of receiving it. CDPR already lost my trust, and this garbage doesn't fill me with much faith that the development studio will provide anything more than an attempt to preach to people, to which I refuse to support such garbage. I am severely disappointed, and regret that CDPR has become, but I won't support the studio any longer. Everyone else needs to stop being a battered housewife, and just move on. If the studio turns itself around, then great, I will happily return. If not, then whatever. Other studios will take their place. *Edit: I haven't read the newest book, Rozdroże kruków(Crossroads of Ravens), as I don't speak, read, or understand Polish, so I will have to wait for the book to be released in English. Nevertheless, my comments above still stand.

[@z28yeti]

My assumption is that she LOSES her elder blood powers, because otherwise, she would be massively nerfing herself by becoming a witcher, it would be irresponsibly stupid.... ORRRRR She is giving up her powers, because they're TOO POWERFUL and she's doing it out of responsibility.

[@TheNightman.]

the knowledge is gone, she cannot take them

[@info0]

@@TheNightman. it's not gone. School of Cat has the knowledge (not the new Lynx school). Yenn and Triss could easily make Trials of Grasses possible, just give them time. Yenn already did it to save Uma (Avalla'h) in Witcher 3...

[@gabrielolsen2648]

If you watch skill up and Jake baldino’s podcast after the game awards they interviewed CDPR. They implied that we’ll be playing through her becoming a witcher

[@esesel7831]

Considering that they confirmed that all three w3 endings are canon I guess we will have three different first acts that lead to her becoming a Witcher similar to cyberpunk. I hope it gets even more expanded than in that game because after the first hour it felt pretty inconsequential.

[@TheNightman.]

she cannot become a witcher

[@teshy2]

@@TheNightman. She is, she can, and she will.

[@RusticRonnie]

@@teshy2she isn’t, she will be. though it is against the original lore (not the games) because she is too old.

[@DuckysMediaShowcase]

@@RusticRonnie it’s never stated in those books that not being a child makes the process impossible. Just that it didn’t work when they tried and that the process seems to have greater success when using a child who is a boy. That doesn’t mean it’s impossible. No one states as such in the books.

[@Dak1624]

Quote from Witcher book. Blood of Elves. Triss POV in that moment. "Is she . . . Yes. She was the real reason behind her visit to Kaer Morhen. The ashblonde girl who, here in Kaer Morhen, they want to turn into a witcher. A real witcher. A mutant. A killing machine, like themselves. It’s clear, she suddenly thought, feeling a passionate arousal of an entirely different nature. It’s obvious. They want to mutate the child, subject her to the Trial of Grasses and Changes, but they don’t know how to do it. Vesemir was the only witcher left from the previous generation, and he was only a fencing instructor. The Laboratorium, hidden in the vaults of Kaer Morhen, with its dusty demi-johns of elixirs, the alembics, ovens and retorts . . . None of the witchers knew how to use them. The mutagenic elixirs had been concocted by some renegade wizard in the distant past and then perfected over the years by the wizard’s successors, who had, over the years, magically controlled the process of Changes to which children were subjected. And at a vital moment the chain had snapped. There was no more magical knowledge or power. The witchers had the herbs and Grasses, they had the Laboratorium. They knew the recipe. But they had no wizard. Who knows, she thought, perhaps they have tried? Have they given children concoctions prepared without the use of magic? She shuddered at the thought of what might have happened to those children." She literally thinks they want to make Ciri a Witcher. Nothing about her gender making it impossible.

[@justacomment123]

Kind of a moot point since you're citing a passage that comes AFTER the loss of critical knowledge regarding the trials. Most men don't survive the Trial of Grasses - especially the weaker ones. It may not be explicitly stated that women can't become witchers, but after two canonical failures - it's implied.

[@Dak1624]

@ It’s only canonical in games thanks to Ttrpg not even video games. Same as a thing called Witcher schools are only games canon. Recently Sapkowski said in interview that people misinterpreted Witcher medallions as different schools which is wrong. For example in the newest book released one month ago we have a Witcher with a viper medallion but he comes from Kaer Morhen. A place where Witchers with wolf medallion trained. CDPR can easily ignore that ttrpg since even author of books doesn’t acknowledge that thing. So you can see how much stuff CDPR makes to have lore. For example in Witcher 1 we have Alvin who is a source. When actually in the book canon it’s clearly stated that only female can be a source. Men can have a gene of elder blood but will not be active.

[@lilmintygames]

Out of a group of ten boys you're lucky if 2-3 survive. Girls not being able to be witchers was only a heavy based assumption because for lack there of, they didn't have many girls to actually test it on. It's not "implied" that girls can't be witchers. 🤦🏻‍♀️ It's always been a male dominant field so always been skewed in testing. I'll wait until the author himself says "girls can never be witchers" ​@@justacomment123

[@justacomment123]

@@lilmintygames Either way, neither Geralt, Yennefer, nor Triss would ever encourage Ciri to go through the trials, so we'll see what CDPR does to justify it.

[@lilmintygames]

@@justacomment123 It's never mattered what Geralt, Triss or Yennifer want... Ciri is an adult. You realize that they support her unconditionally if you've paid attention... Even in the books is very evident. 😮‍💨

[@TihetrisWeathersby]

It's amazing how few people actually paid attention to the Witcher 3, Ciri was always being set up to take over

[@rjmiggins5296]

Ya but not being a full blown Witcher

[@lekillerfou]

Or maybe also simply do not remember what is actually in the game. It's been almost a decade since the game was released🙂

[@leegriffiths8910]

Only with the true ending, you're assuming everyone got that.

[@skeiththe3rd]

I didn't even play Witcher 3 and I knew this.

[@dr_diddy]

​​@@lekillerfouyh you're probably right tbf a lot of comments do reek of misremembering things and confusing lore from different media. It's been 10 years since TW3 and 20 since lady if the lake, man time sure flys.

[@btbarr16]

I always liked the idea of Ciri being the next Witcher. There's a lot of potential for the story and it means a lot of the other characters we know and love will still be around.

[@Nrvll12]

I think they snuck the new mutation mechanic in via blood and wine. Nobody bitched about lore when a random scientist figured out and expanded on mutations turning geralt into a super witcher. It doesn't have to be the same, it just showed that mutations can be researched and developed by anyone smart and dedicated enough.

[@iSuperVamp]

Ok : The witcher 3 repeatedly makes a huge point of Ciri not being happy with her heritage / destiny / fate she has not chosen and has no control over. She's NOT happy having her powers, what they mean and the life she was forced to live because of them (And not a gamer wanting to be OP). In my mind, if she somehow suddenly learned the trial could shut them off completely, she wouldn't blink twice to make that decision.

[@damned0wl]

I agree. Another possibility could be a new Conjunction bringing more monsters and a need for witchers again - Ciri would feel the responsiblity to do something about it, and undergo the mutations herself before asking the same of anyone else, regardless of what it could do to her powers. We'll have to wait and see what reasoning CDPR have in mind though.

[@aoihitori]

And then they made her flip 360° "Ok I'm a Witcher now."

[@teshy2]

This - 100%. Thank you for saying it. It's like people haven't been paying attention to Cirit at all. "BUT SHE IS SO POWERFUL!" - yeah, but she doesn't necessarily *want* to be. And, like you said, if you know your powers can end the world... yeah, cutting that shit off doesn't sound too bad, now does it.

[@ZrodyApo]

Especially since every mf and their brothers wants to get a hold on her powers, completely disregarding her as a person, including her own biological father. Ciri is a prime example of being the chosen one isn't a great thing.

[@Owen-sx4jj]

Being a witcher is worse than elder blood. You have less of a life

[@highlanderknight]

I'm sure that CDPR will fully explain how and why Ciri becomes a Witcher. That's a no brainer.

[@TheNightman.]

by breaking the established lore

[@highlanderknight]

@@TheNightman. Explain how

[@teshy2]

@@TheNightman. Nope. This is just blatantly false, and would only be said by someone who hasn't actually read, studied or followed the lore.

[@DV_VG]

@@TheNightman. every game in some way breaks the established lore lol Besides, established lore is whatever Andrzej Sapkowski and Cd Projekt Red decide it to be

[@XBluDiamondX]

@@TheNightman. Again, explain why you are more of an expert on the lore than the subject matter in the video Luke presented. You're doing a piss poor job convincing anyone. Anyway, Andrzej Sapkowski has said he's supportive of CDPR's direction with Ciri. And I hate to break it to you buttercup, but the author is much more of a substantial source than you are.

[@chriscolombie4135]

There is also another possible reason ciri might go through the trials and it might be a side effect of fighting the white frost in witcher 3 maybe she really was sick after the events of witcher 3

[@damned0wl]

I know it's not what you meant, but this kind of sounds like she just caught a cold, and it made me chuckle 😅

[@steggydinosaur1661]

As I really liked Ciri I don't understand the problem many have. You can make a super dark story, with Ciri going through the trial of grasses to become infertile and therefore breaking her curse. Because because of her blood many want to make a baby with her, and she never really liked being reduced to literal only her blood.

[@BiggieBungas]

@steggydinosaur1661 but with ciri being an adult she can't go through the trials. To my understanding you can only go through that as a child.

[@jakubdovgosheya5053]

@@BiggieBungas the whole video talked about the fact that it's never stated that any of those "requirements" are 100% neccessary - it's just that's the way it's always been done. It's also stated that Ciri is not like others in any regards, so it's not hard to believe that she would be the one person it would work on

[@BiggieBungas]

@jakubdovgosheya5053 fair point. I don't believe you at all and won't ever support the notion of ciri just having inherent plot armor but you don't have the worst take in the world.

[@ArchAngelKnights]

what is everyone talking about. she was literally a witcher at the end of the witcher 3

[@BiggieBungas]

Depends on your ending

[@MB-oq9px]

Ciri is in the trailer and suddenly people think the witcher 4 is gonna be about girl power instead of killing monsters and the tragedy of people😂really just shows how much shallow media these people consume🫣

[@TheWind_Walker]

Tbh i don’t think this whole Ciri thing would be an issue, if there weren’t so many bad examples of swaps like this happening as of late. But I think in this case it makes perfect sense. She would naturally be the next main character given what happened in the Witcher 3. However Ciri as a character doesn’t even need to be a Witcher, given her bloodline and training in both combat and sorcery, she’s already way more powerful than necessary to be a Witcher. Her undergoing the Witcher trials would both be unnecessary and stupid to risk. It would be like risking death and suffering to learn how to fly, when you already have wings lol.

[@Ashbrash1998]

It was in the books

[@rafterman5072]

I mean, the writers obviously have a reason for her becoming a “full Witcher.” People are making a ton of assumptions about where they’re going to take the story, when CDPR have literally been planning this for the better part of a decade.

[@CoopHawke]

If her body can handle stronger magic I don't see why she wouldn't be able to handle the trial. Also extending her life span and being physically stronger are probably worth it. Especially if she's learned it's lower risk for her

[@dundalis]

That’s all fine but then it’s not a Witcher game plain and simple. It’s the Witcher 4 which is why it needs to happen with Ciri as the main character. They could absolutely have made a spinoff game with Ciri as main character with a completely different name just set in Witcher universe if they wanted to keep Ciri with just elder powers

[@Vry9]

I guess she would want to downgeade to change the blood and to not have a son (becouse destroyer of the worlds propercy)

[@prestonwinters9656]

Male or female as long as they are written well that’s all that matters

[@rafterman5072]

lol Is this going to be a thing for the next four years? If you are against playing as Ciri, then skip the Witcher 4 or at the very least wait until there is information about the actual story. It is silly to get upset this early.

[@dr_diddy]

4 years? fuck I hear CDPR expect to make 750m dollars in 2027 so I hope it's a 2026/7 release. TW1 Remake is apparently coming before TW4 anyway.

[@rafterman5072]

@ I actually don’t think Witcher 1 remake is coming for a long while. They are still in the concept phase. I could maybe see The Witcher 4 releasing in 2027 though. Supposedly their pre production phase was quite in depth, so actually putting the game together might be easier.

[@tabkg5802]

"If you don't like it don't play it" yeah that's the plan just like with Concord and other slop lol

[@seanfoodysmith3227]

@@tabkg5802 bro called the witcher slop😭😭

[@tabkg5802]

@@seanfoodysmith3227 yes.

[@libramartin]

In the last couple of weeks there were many interviews with CDPR, and they mention they have a lore explanation for all of that. Writers need some creative freedom, and I trust Witcher writers more than any other games.

[@Spigan818]

It's not even the same writer my guy. Not the same game director either.

[@libramartin]

@@Spigan818 what do you mean? not the same than who? how does it matter for having an explanation?

[@Carlin2810]

I thought Ciri is supposed to be of ancient blood & doesnt need the potions & lotions that Witchers use,she was always meant to take over yes but not as a Witcher,she's meant to be better than a Witcher I thought.

[@teshy2]

People forget that Ciri has pretty much always hated her elder blood powers - and they have caused her and the ones she loves great pain, suffering and sacrifice. She doesn't *want* to be unique or overpowered. Those powers can literally end their world. So if there is a way to shut them down, and gain the powers of her monster slaying stepfather that she adores and idolizes - she'd do that in a heartbeat. And it would make sense, too.

[@Owen-sx4jj]

​@@teshy2as a Witcher you have no life. Can't reproduce either. Trials are lost, she's a grown woman and elder blood is volatile. To try this means you are risking certain death even more than before but hey girls can do it too

[@Astartes-6969]

There is a quest in 3 where your in Novigrad with Ciri and her and Geralt have a conversation during a party that she never wanted the powers or wanted to be the center of attention. She always wanted to be her own person. Her wanting to be a Witcher is something she wants cuz she idolizes Geralt and Vessimer. Her deciding to be a Witcher is her choosing her own path. And to those saying: "Geralt wouldn't agree to this." THE WHOLE POINT OF THE PLOT OF WITCHER 3 IS GERALT REALIZING CIRI IS A GROWN WOMAN AND WILL MAKE HER OWN DECISIONS. So it makes sense she would want to be a Witcher, she wants to be free of her bloodline and her destiny.

[@ValeofWoe]

I am of the same mind of Geralt. I don’t like Ciri being a full blown Witcher through mutations.

[@datamining2340]

yep, seeing Ciri as a witcher makes me feel bad, like I failed her haha. Playing W3 and trying to help her and being the "dad" it does not look BAD ASS to see her as a witcher; its sad. I mean if they are going for that vibe fair enough...

[@sillylittlesheepjax6009]

@@datamining2340 what are u talking abt ? geralt give her a sword and send her on the way to kill mosnters. her elder blood still not making her super human. she can be killed by poison or some fast monster that witcher would dodge.

[@raphaeljaggerd3585]

I feel like there would have been less discourse if the devs would let us choose which path to take Ciri as she's sort of a blank slate of what a witcher should or could be. Let the players choose to either stick with tradition or forge a new path

[@hakuhyo174]

CDPR needs to really justify Ciri going through Trial of the Grasses because by the end of Witcher 3, lore wise, Ciri is already one of the strongest being on the continent because she is Hen Ichaer aka Elder blood. There’s no point for Ciri to obtaining mutations to hunt monsters… because lore-wise she is objectively stronger than any Witcher ever existed.

[@seanfoodysmith3227]

Ciri always said that she hated her elder blood powers, she looks at them as a curse rather than a gift. That is probably why she is undergoing the trials

[@Owen-sx4jj]

​@@seanfoodysmith3227 being a witcher is worse. Try again

[@ShawnG85]

@@hakuhyo174 It could be a symbolic commitment to follow in the footsteps of her real "father," Geralt

[@sillylittlesheepjax6009]

@@ShawnG85 why not both ? *cheers*

[@TheMrGiannisgr]

You didn’t watch this video, did you? That’s the point. She might be trying to run away from her destiny and become sterile. Plus she never wanted to have these powers.

[@nubbyfresh5623]

As far as book Canon goes, neons idea for the storyline why she goes through the trials makes the absolute most sense. With the way she is written in the books it is very believable that she would forsake her powers and instead go the route of a full Witcher. Her hatred for people trying to use her and her possible descendants is a very driving factor in the books and given the fact that the Witcher mutations make you sterile would give her all the more reason to guarantee that somebody could never use her to get her children in the future.

[@dravenhawk5848]

I still religiously, play the Witcher three and having Ciri be the protagonist in the next game is amazing in my opinion

[@sanjaydevit502]

I think a bunch of developers from the W3 team leaving due to differences of vision doesn't fill me with confidence.

[@TESMediaGroup]

That's blatantly false and you're repeating Twitter disinformation

[@Naxiwuno]

I wonder if same people which did Witcher 1 worked on Witcher 3, probably not, so why it's now a problem?

[@jadeyeti]

Pretty sure some recent interview confirmed that people from earlier Witcher games are still around, people always leave to pursue other things and some stay. I’m very excited for this

[@SayanGamer11]

I am not surprised about Ciri being a Witcher. Ciri had elder blood in her veins. She's basically an Elven Human hybrid. Now is there any record of Elven Witchers?

[@yourturn5059]

I've played the games and read the books, and I'm hyped to see a more darker side to Ciri explored further! She was a real monster when she was running with the Rats!

[@TheMrGiannisgr]

This is my most anticipated game. I was always hoping we continued after The Witcher 3, it’s like a dream come true after finishing that game years ago. 😌🔥

[@IAMTHEARMAGEDON]

I believe the developers confirmed that Ciri lost most of or all of her powers, which could easily explain her wanting to become a witcher

[@maffa2849]

Admittedly i was perplexed by the trailer, and even if some time has passed I found it clashing against my expectations of who Ciri is. By what I remember from the books, she unique not only as being the embodiment of the Elder Blood, but also because she also was a witcher (trained, not in essence) AND also a sorceress (also trained, by Yennefer in Aretuza, where they developed their mother-daughter relationship before being split during the Thanned coup, and not in essence). Now, she could blink/phase as an innate power, which is with all probability due to her being the Elder Blood incarnation, but she also had to stop the Great Frost because of that. Her blinking powers could have "run out" by stopping the Great Frost and thus fulfilling the Elder Blood prophecy. Or not. Maybe itll be a point of plot where itll be explained why she cant (won't?) blink anymore. What makes me pause is why she drinks the bad witcher potions and use cheap witcher signs which are but a bad abridged magic version of the more powerful and complete magic sorceresses can wield. Either she chose to undergo the trial of grasses rather than the final surgery to becoming a sorceress. Honestly speaking, I would trust CDPR not to screw the Witcher's saga. As you correctly said, it's a Polish pride. Can't hide my perplexity to be honest, I am not as hyped as when I saw TW3 first cinematic trailer where I broke an office chair by jumping on it while it went on. Let's see. In any case, I was served well by not buying CP77 at launch, Ill wait this one out as well, and monitor the situaiton.

[@ransom--]

My biggest problem with Ciri being an actual Witcher (as in having undergone the trials) is that she was significantly more interesting without it and she was powerful enough to be a Witcher without undergoing them. She fought and killed several monsters in Witcher 3. She could teleport. She could travel through space and time. She saved the world. I have no problem with her being the protagonist... but I wish I got to play Ciri. Based on the trailer (and I could be wrong, I love CDPR. W3 is my favorite game ever and Cyberpunk 2077 was awesome) - how Ciri acts, looks and the general vibe I don't feel like I'm going to be playing Ciri. I just feel like I'm going to be playing 'girl Geralt'. And if that is the case, I'd rather play Geralt. Hell, I'd rather play a Yennefer game than that.

[@susan7527]

Ciri should have her own game series and tie it to Cyberpunk too as she had already teleported to 2077. As a female I prefer to play as a male unless I'm character creating. My favourite men have been: Max Payne, took 20years off. Now retired, Geralt, Joel, Arthur Morgan, Deacon St John. This girl boss thing is boring now, I played all the Tomb raiders but Lara's character was never well written.

[@mordor1779]

Yes but her not being a Witcher in Witcher 4 would have meant missing out on many gameplay mechanics. For example you wouldn't be able to use potions so the whole alchemy aspect of the previous games wouldn't be possible. Same for all the Witcher spells like Quen, Aard and different builds you can do based on them So the fact that she's a Witcher means way more gameplay mechanics and possible builds compared if she wasn't

[@DuckysMediaShowcase]

@@susan7527it’s insane to me that you think the reason they’re making her a Witcher and the protagonist is some sort of agenda. It’s clear that they’ve been planning this since before Witcher 3 came out as that whole game is about setting her up as the protagonist going forward. That being as a male I don’t care who I’m playing as so long as the game is well written. Joel is a great character and so is Ellie. Abbey is also just as well written a character for that matter. Do I like Abbey? No, but her story arc is integral to the theme of the revenge tale that is TLoU Part 2 and I don’t like her character because she’s a terrible human being who relishes killing and torturing (before the events we play as her and her accomplishing her revenge against Joel) people. Joel is one of the greatest video game protagonists of all time but in terms of quality of writing so is Ellie and Abbey. It’s not as if having the central character of a story be a badass woman is a new concept. It’s been around in media forever. It’s just that nowadays the go to method is writing those characters to be basically unlikable. It’s the Captain Marvel effect. Once they made Carol Danvers CM in the comics her character was almost immediately written to be smug and irrational and that carried over to her movie counterpart being written basically the exact same way she’s portrayed in the comics and it’s unfortunate because female badass’ deserve better treatment. It’s just the hack method shit trope writing. Not the fact that the character is a woman.

[@ransom--]

@@mordor1779 Right. Because she wasn't a mutated Witcher. So she would have played like Ciri and not like Geralt (or another Witcher). That is the point. If I am going to play a Ciri game, I'd prefer to play a Ciri game. Not a Ciri as a mutated Witcher game - since then it isn't a Ciri game. It is just a reskinning of Geralt game. Your explanation is more what I think actually motivated CDPR than them thinking it was a great story hook or something they had determined for Ciri. I think they knew they wanted her as the main character, but they told themselves "We cannot have a game called The Witcher and have the main character not be a mutated Witcher." Which I think is foolish. Witcher Tales: Thronebreaker was awesome and told an incredible story... with a female protagonist... that wasn't a Witcher.

[@ganggang3788]

@@DuckysMediaShowcase wasting your time explaining logic, people like that have legit brain worms. Imagine thinking that Ciri who the entirety of the Witcher lore is based around and the most powerful character, is just a "girlboss."

[@steven82111]

Remember there was another conjunction of the spheres toward the end of the Witcher three that’s why there’s more monsters now

[@ALEXA_beep]

I don't get why people NEED a big ol reason why Ciri wants to be a witcher, she's always taken after Geralt more than Yennefer or the sorceresses so as opposed to undergoing the Aretuza sterilization she might have just as well undergone the witcher one. Not wanting babies is not that hard to justify for Ciri if you have read the books especially, SPOILER ---- even her own father wanted to impregnate her for her elder blood SPOILER OVER. As for how this will affect her elder powers in-game combat and not have her be OP, well in witcher 3 the teleportation dodging was on a cool down similar to castings signs was for Geralt, so there's the solution, she can have a limited amount of elder abilities on a cooldown like Geralt's signs.

[@RabbitPrimeGaming]

It was more than obvious Ciri was going to be the next main character. And the fact that she is super OP with her Elder Blood, its not too far fetched that she could survive the trials. And who knows, maybe it's *exactly* same as it use to be, or its just selective mutations or something. Who knows. People just need to chill out and see how they explain it. It could make sense, or it could be total bullshit.

[@torste707]

Given the current landscape in gaming isn’t the most likely scenario that activists now run CDPR and they want another all conquering girl boss for ideological reasons. The lore and any other fan based considerations don’t matter they know what we should be thinking the rationale is irrelevant and if fans don’t support it they are bigots. Honestly I love the Witcher and I really hope this isn’t true but there is a considerable amount of circumstantial evidence pointing in this direction

[@damned0wl]

Consider this though: the current landscape in gaming has huge budget "activist" games flopping miserably. And CDPR should be very aware of how the Witcher fanbase specifically feels about the Netflix series and why, for a few years now. Would they really be stupid enough to fall into all the same traps? It's not out of the realm of possibility, but I don't think their recent work indicates going in that direction.

[@MajorKenshy]

@@damned0wl They already hired activist as a new W4 writer so... .

[@frankief_2023]

I’ve got a theory and I haven’t seen or heard anyone mention it. Maybe stopping the white frost drained her of her powers? That would make sense. Therefore she under went the trial of the grasses because she wanted to feel useful and be a Witcher.

[@GeraltOfArabia]

CDPR gave us better stories and lore than the author himself. They utilized the setting, the Trials and eve the politics better than, again, the author himself. Everything was nova until somehow people started treating the lore like it’s some laws of thermodynamics.

[@dr_diddy]

It's funny how the community is in full rage mode over the lore in a series where the author doesn't care for it 😭 Like in the books locations straight up don't work and then you have the games that casually bring characters back from the dead and retcon entire political landscapes to even happen. But god forbid the girl who always wanted to be a witcher becomes a witcher 😭😭😭

[@belligerent2941]

@@dr_diddy That just tells you that most of the people complain for the authors sake know nothing about his relationship with CDPR and are just regurgitating what they see other people saying. They stopped giving a fuck about lore accuracy ages ago.

[@justaquietpeacefuldance]

Just say that you can't read 😂

[@anitaremenarova6662]

Ehhh, I wouldn't go that far. The way they handled some storylines in the base game was atrociously bad. Sapkowski's novels have no such flaws, put some respect on his name.

[@justaquietpeacefuldance]

@@dr_diddyW4: The Inspirational Story About a Girl "Who Wanted".

[@HungPham-pz7fy]

I was shocked when I learned about Ciri's Falka phase from the Books. Ciri in the W3 is a Disney princess in comparison.

[@Vipernoxx]

I got the Witcher ending just a few days ago and it just feels like natural progression of her character. Absolutely loved that ending and very intrigued to see how CDPR weaves this narrative together

[@kityhawk2000]

Lol I got proper emotional in that ending especially with the twist and the stuff with the sword

[@hakuhyo174]

Ciri becoming a witcher (profession) is what everyone expected but not her getting mutation. Ciri is already The Lady of Space and Time - her power is more powerful than any witcher ever existed. Why go through the pain and risk Trial of Grasses then…

[@JajsjNsbsvshana]

@@hakuhyo174why don’t you wait for the game to come out and see?

[@Owen-sx4jj]

​@@JajsjNsbsvshana that's a stupid argument. I have buy something to see the direction they are going. That's what a trailer is for numpty

[@PThrizzle]

FYI, there was a 2nd "conjunction" that took place on Undvik, possibly everywhere, that drastically increased monster numbers.

[@artoriasoftheabyss500]

Seeing her kicking ass after getting the ending where she chooses to become a Witcher for the 100th time will never not make me feel like a proud dad

[@Taco-in-a-Tahoe]

I have a theory that after she stopped the white frost her elder blood powers vanished so she needed an edge to fight monsters by becoming a witcher. However knowing CDPR there is probably something else to it.

[@reignmans]

Yeah she is mentioned as a witcher by PROFESSION. Not by mutations.

[@stef8060]

@@reignmans lol you didn’t finish the video before watching…… hilarious.

[@hakuhyo174]

Ciri clearly had mutations (eyes etc) in the trailer which is where this entire discussion is about.

[@reignmans]

@@stef8060 didn't finish the video before watching? huh? make it make sense.

[@reignmans]

@@hakuhyo174 we are talking about TW3s ending(s).

[@hakuhyo174]

@@reignmans Did you watch the video or even the trailer? Everyone KNOWS “cannon” Witcher 3 ending has Ciri becoming a witcher by profession, but she never went through Trial neither in game nor in book so don’t have the mutation. The trailer showed her having mutations so she went through the Trial. That’s the the whole discussion is about, not Ciri choosing witcher as profession.

[@CatalystGamers]

How about the new Witcher game starting at the tavern from the end of Witcher 3, where Ciri says, 'So... what now? A quick hunt?'. Then, somewhere in Act 2 or Act 3, she unexpectedly undergoes the Trial of the Grasses for a surprising reason. 😊⚔

[@kityhawk2000]

I have faith in CDPR to deliver a great Witcher game in W4. Maybe I will be proved wrong but I'm not going to doubt them based on a cinematic trailer released years before the game comes out, just because I don't know the answers to everything that's happening.

[@dislikebutton8789]

Cyberpunk was a pre-alpha money scam. Most people left after the launch. Different company.

[@dr_diddy]

Yh their last product clearly shows the talent and skill is still there, my only wish is that they improve combat and have side quests affect the main mission more. They hired the metal gear rising combat lead so it'll be interesting seeing what he can provide.

[@TheMysterySpeaker]

@@dr_diddy The talent and skill left the company after their last product, so some caution should be exercised. Personally, I don't very much care for how much Ciri being a Witcher goes against the lore, but I care more about what the focal point of the entire game is going to be (speaking from interviews so far).

[@MisterMonsterMan]

CDPR in 2025 is NOT the CDPR of the past. The team is almost completely different from the one that made Witcher 3. Why so much faith?

[@belligerent2941]

@@MisterMonsterMan Because Cyberpunk 2077 has a good narrative and phantom liberty which came out 2 years ago. There’s no reason to think their next game will be bad unless you have an ulterior motive to complain like maybe ciri being the next protagonist.

[@Chimaeramentis]

Whenever I listen to Luke's videos while working I just can't help imagining Kermit's face talking about Witcher's and... things.

[@danielreynolds1632]

My, Ciri is Daenerys Targaryen theory: Geralt once told Ciri (in the books) that although no woman had *yet* survived the trial of grasses, it’s *not* impossible…and as a result Ciri decides to undergo the trial of grasses-specifically to nerf her blood/powers/fertility to *nullify* the prophecy- with more *certainty* than any spell (there are some things spells just *can’t* do- like restore Yennefer’s fertility (books), remove Geralt’s marks in Heart of Stone…or *undo* his Witcher mutations for that matter), concerning her offspring either being the world’s savior or destroyer. However, not only does it *not* work, but her *fertility* remains intact: rendering Ciri the first *ElderWitcher* = a Witcher who is able to reproduce and pass on Witcher mutations. Thus, by the end of her trilogy she will birth the first fertile mutant children, bringing Witchers *back* to the world (like how Daenerys brought dragons *back* to the world) *without* the trials *or* child surprises. Ciri will be crowned- not as *Empress* , but as *Mother of Mutants*

[@hundvd_7]

That sounds crazy but I don't dislike it

[@clutchboi4038]

I want this to happen lol

[@danielreynolds1632]

I see certain things in the books (so far, I’m only partway through the 2nd book) that I feel hint strongly at this kind of outcome: How Geralt points out that not *all* sorceresses are infertile (citing his *own* mother) saying, “Something can’t be a rule if there are exceptions to it.” It could be that Ciri becomes one such exception. Geralt also responds to a question about *his* purpose/destiny by saying, “Mutants *have no parents and no destiny* “ (Speaking of Witchers *and* Golden dragons- a species of dragon he at first *insists* don’t exist, only to meet one in the very next chapter). However, Ciri is the *child* of destiny. She could be the first to give a Witcher something none of them have ever had- a *parent* ! Can you imagine if Ciri’s children end up with a sort of *Elder-gene* ? A gene that grants them certain *unique gifts* ? We could end up with medieval X-men on our hands! Can’t you just *hear* that theme song being played on Dandelion’s lute?! 🤩😎

[@danielreynolds1632]

I also see possible parallels with Ciri and Xena. For starters, they’re both *warrior princesses* ! But Xena at one point had a *dark* chapter in her life and later on had a *prophesied* child that would bring about the *end* of the Olympian Gods- resulting in her living on the run from them whilst trying to protect her baby. Ciri could end up on the run from certain groups like the Lodge of Sorceresses perhaps? After they decide her and her child are too much of a threat to their power/influence? That could end in a standoff between Yen and them… Obviously only time will tell but I *like* the idea of the devs drawing inspiration from more *modern fantasies* like game of thrones, Xena, X-men etc. Either way, I’m sure it’ll be *epic* and I cannot wait! 😁

[@nicovandermerwe2747]

She's gonna open a rift into another world. And go there.

[@yairsofer8933]

Even though it's called the "Elder Blood" her powers are not actually in her blood Per se. Ciri's powers come from an unspecified gene called "Lara Dorren's gene" in the books and games which is the genetic material that grant her her powers. So considering the Trial of the Grasses literally alters one's genome it's likely that she went through it to "erase" her ancestry and escape her fate, her destiny.

[@NanoNaps]

To add, since Witchers become sterile, she might also hope that people stop wanting to make babies with her for once. Doesn't mean it works that way, since destiny seems quite powerful in lore, but it is a good reason for her to do it.

[@yairsofer8933]

@NanoNaps yeah could be.

[@BigmanBrando]

I love the Witcher I’ve played the game, read the books and watched the show (hated it) I like ciri but I was hoping that we’d get a custom character

[@mikedelgrande5296]

Tbh, the only problem I have so far is with that arrogant, stuck up, self important art director. But if the game is actually good in spite of him I’ll still be able to play and enjoy it. It won’t be the first time I’ve had to separate the art from the artist, and it wont be the last. I’m just hoping none of his charming personality is put into the game. This won’t be a day 1 purchase for me. I’m going to wait for reviews, gameplay, and even some spoilers because this is a special case.

[@kityhawk2000]

Im betting they will definitely show Ciri going through with the trial. I think it will be a key part of the story

[@dr_diddy]

They already said in an interview we'll see her go through the trials.

[@rebellious_red7123]

I'm genuinely interested to see how Witcher 4 plays out and how it answers Ciri's decision to become a Witcher (probably the whole idea of her finally escaping her destiny and fate) but we shall see.

[@lllKRENDELLLlll]

The main complaint about Ciri as a witcher is why would she do that??? Already in the book, she was a carrier of super strength, i.e. she was a fucking strong magician, and since she had undergone witcher training, she was also great with a sword. According to the book the Witcher, her future was discussed in Kaer Morhen, saying the following: "she is not destined to be a witcher, but she can be a warrior without problems." In general, she doesn't need to be a witcher because it doesn't make sense! She's strong and cool without witchcraft. And she called herself a witcher in the book because it was just childish foolishness and then simple self-affirmation. And the adult witchers called her the same way a dad can call his son a hero and his daughter a princess. That is, it was all childish and playing along with adults. The SDPR took Ciri because they need a woman. And they made her a witcher only because the players want to see a witcher in a game called the Witcher.

[@Smol_Turtle]

Right? Like she was already a bamf, there was no need to tack on witcher to her resume with her being an actual witcher. In fact, I think it would arguably be more interesting that she uses the title without mutations, and she has to grasp with the changing world and how to come to terms that her 'witcher' family is slowly fading and she could very well be the last one and how she could carry that mantle forward.

[@seanfoodysmith3227]

I can clearly tell u didnt pay attention to the books or games as ciri says many times that she does not like her elder blood powers and she sees them as a curse to be gotten rid of, that is why she is becoming a witcher because the "curse" of the elder blood can then end with her

[@lllKRENDELLLlll]

​@@seanfoodysmith3227 Sorry dude, but I've read all the books. And in one of them there was a scene where Ciri walked through the desert and at the end of this path she invoked a power that even Enifer and the older wizards were afraid to deal with - the power of fire. And there she refused it because she was afraid of the summoning of the spirit of Falka, who called her to become the destroyer of worlds. With a single click, she gave up the force, which means that her willpower is enough to control her power, and the curse of her power was solely due to heredity. In general, this scene shows Ciri's metamorphosis as a person, when she experimented with herself, it's just like a teenager looking for himself in life, first rebelling against himself, and then accepting. Keep in mind, dude, that the writers of the СDPR are not the authors of the original story, they are not even close to Sapkovsky and do not know the motives that he put into his characters. I'll tell you this, I came to books after the games, and the way I saw the characters in the book, after that I can't take the games seriously because they're just cheap fanfiction from the CDPR and there's no philosophy in them at all. The only advantage of games is that they convey high-quality images of characters and no more. What the developers did in part 4 is simple marketing, they want to sell us a story with characters that are beneficial to them. Geralt does not fit into the modern picture of the world. And Ciri is the only compromise option.

[@XBluDiamondX]

@@lllKRENDELLLlll The author already supports CDPR's direction with Ciri. CDPR also has a team versed in the books themselves. Why do you pretend to be more of an expert than them?

[@lllKRENDELLLlll]

@@XBluDiamondX Because Sapkovsky came up with a concept that works logically. And even if Sapkovsky is the author, this does not give him the right to violate the logic of his own narrative, but he did it by supporting the СDPR. He has the right to develop his universe and his characters, BUT in no way to support the fanfiction of those who pay him for support, and the СDPR paid him for support because, firstly, it is beneficial to both sides and Sapkovsky loves money, he was sold to netflix, he was sold to the СDPR. Secondly, the decisions of the СDPR break the logic of the narrative, and all the fans saw this trash, which made them indignant. Next, which book experts are we talking about, the dude who was hired by the CDPR and who was seen attacking fans of the game? And what does this expert know more than me?? The witcher's ENT is simple to the point of outrage because the narrative is linear and was not originally thought out as an advanced universe, but only as a backdrop for the events of the books. There is no mystery in the creation of witchers. Sapkovsky initially mentioned the witcher laboratory in volume 3, pointed out that Ciri was unsuitable for the role of a witcher, and in general, all witchers! And Sapkovsky did not return to this topic in the story anymore. And when the author got tired of the story of Geralt and Ciri, he literally destroyed Geralt and never returned to him, starting a new trilogy, "The Saga of Reinevan", which no one got. And even now, when Sapkovsky needs money, even now he does not continue the tale of the witcher and Ciri, but only writes collections of stories about the witcher's past in the style of the first two volumes about the witcher.

[@brworthington_]

I really think they could write it as something that has an effect on her powers but doesn’t eradicate them entirely. Like she has to learn to integrate them both through experience and growth. That leaves deniability while giving a lot to potentially explore.

[@EnejJohhem]

People often forget that Ciri isn't any average Women, she have Elder blood.

[@RockerBoy20045]

Woman* Has*

[@BoBurnham69]

Pardon the twitter dwellers, writing can be tough 😂

[@SleeperJoe2024]

I was definitely questioning why she would take the trials, but I like the idea that she takes the mutations to become sterile as it would be her continuing to face her destiny rather than running away. Ultimately people only want Ciri for her blood and if you take away her power to reproduce she becomes useless in the eyes of those who want to use her, it would allow her to be ‘normal’ (in the sense of people not being obsessed with her) whilst becoming an actual Witcher - which is important from a gameplay perspective.

[@lol_vevo]

I like that Ciri is going to be the new protagonist ✅ I like that she has taken to the Witcher profession ✅ I don't think she was "made ugly" on purpose, that's just Unreal Engine 5 ✅ I don't like that she is a mutant, in small part because she is a woman, but mostly because she is an ADULT ❌ Her being a woman Witcher is only softly implied to be an issue in the lore but can be interpreted as not being a problem, however what NK doesn't mention is that in the lore it clearly says only children can survive the trial.

[@anitaremenarova6662]

Seems you haven't paid attention whatsoever, in witcher 3 Avallac'h goes through it and lives.

[@lol_vevo]

@anitaremenarova6662 Clearly it's you who wasn't paying attention, Avallach does not do the full trial, no mutations are introduced, he's only weakened so that Yennefer can restore him to normal.

[@anitaremenarova6662]

@@lol_vevo He does the hard part, if a few decades old elf can survive it so can Ciri.

[@BiggieBungas]

​@@anitaremenarova6662 a human girl vs an almighty sorcerer with enough power to best her even if he is mortaly wounded. Sure. That seems like an even match up

[@alaia-awakened]

I just want Ciri’s original voice and (somewhat older) face back :) I’m so attaches to her from WIII

[@MyHertzisHigh]

15:33 Hell no, that reasoning is a cop out and stupid.

[@dismayingmist7868]

I can’t wait to experience Ciri Story if Witcher 4 well be my first Witcher game and I hear a lot that the Witcher games are open world like Skyrim

[@ArtofWadeKing]

It’s wild to me how obvious how ciri would become a Witcher… lol

[@kidnamedfinger2840]

Was it also obvious that she'd be subjected to the trial? Lol

[@seanfoodysmith3227]

@@kidnamedfinger2840 it is the best move for her as a person so ion know what u on about

[@kidnamedfinger2840]

@@seanfoodysmith3227 how is it the best move? Not becoming a witcher, I mean undergoing the trials

[@seanfoodysmith3227]

@@kidnamedfinger2840 because it removes what is the source of so many problems like the wild hunt coming after her for example. Because the trial changes genes it would get rid of the elder blood which comes from Lara dorrens genes. This would be the best move because she has always said how she hates her elder blood. She sees it as a curse and the best move for her would be to get rid of the curse

[@alderoth01]

I'm just excited to play it.

[@burtwonk]

Actual Witcher fans are pumped. Ciri is a force of nature!

[@austinking9912]

Could be she has honor and identity is a Witcher so she wants to be legit and go through what they all go through. In regards to her powers it’d be badass if she just said outright “only when I have too”. Her having a code, honor, and strong identity would be cool.

[@dofkaSW]

Questioning Polish company for the Lore from the Polish writer is actually crazy :D it's almost the same as questioning Sapkowski himself. Poland takes their heritage very seriously and they will not make a mistake here , believe you me :D

[@MajorKenshy]

You know shit. I'm from Poland and a lot ppl here are shiting on CDPR now.

[@dofkaSW]

​@@MajorKenshy I'm sure there are and no need to say why. I stand by my opinion, it's ok if you don't agree.

[@shawnamiller191]

Yeah it's a huge cultural thing in Poland

[@Venom-xd9st]

@@MajorKenshyI highly doubt that given cdpr’s great reputation at the moment. They’ve fixed cyberpunk, released a kickass dlc for it, and made a free Witcher 3 next gen update with free side content added to it- plus have announced a remake of Witcher 1 and now the Witcher 4- if you like- specify what ‘people’ are angry about

[@cursedmonkey1033]

My only concern is how power she is and what that means in terms of gameplay and levelling. But I think she looks great and I can't wait to play it.

[@TihetrisWeathersby]

Why don't people wait to play the game then all will explained

[@dr_diddy]

Negativity is so in! right now babes 💅🏻

[@Liatin1]

because the people that are angry arent going to play the game to begin with

[@automaticwriting4220]

@@Liatin1That’s not true. Many of The people who you’re saying are “angry” are just MASSIVE fans who don’t know how to reconcile with unfamiliarity in things they like and many those same people will definitely still buy it and play it. That’s how you get long winded franchises like Assassins Creed, Bethesdas games and COD. People have been complaining about those series for a very long time now but sales numbers figures show that a solid amount of people will still get it.

[@belligerent2941]

@@automaticwriting4220 Its the only logical explanation because they’ve talked about The Witcher 3 being geralt’s last chapter since before the game even launched, Ciri was a playable character multiple times throughout the game, and one of the main endings was her becoming a witcher. If someone is genuinely surprised or confused then they either didn’t touch any Witcher material or are just jumping on the hate bandwagon because it’s a female protagonist.

[@automaticwriting4220]

@@belligerent2941 You can’t just relegate that group of people to two different sets of criteria that you came up - black or white. There’s MANY opinions that are being expressed by these people like having no desire to play as Ciri in general, making their own Witcher, some of them not wanting to play as a woman, some of them thinking that female Witcher’s have no precedent or are not “allowed” in the lore, some of the those people thinking that the game will suffer because playing as Ciri means that CDPR now has write themselves out of a massive hole that was created by having Ciri as the protagonist, etc. The main thing being that ALL of these things lead to the same conclusion of not wanting to play as Ciri. You can’t come to a “logical” conclusion without taking into account the opinions and reasoning that these people themselves are literally expressing for everyone to see. It doesn’t matter if Ciri was set up as the MC and it doesn’t matter if CDPR even had those plans a decade ago because some people just don’t want that whatever reason regardless if they’re supposed to be surprised or not.

[@travisladwig7711]

Beena while since I finished the game, but I thought that a TON of monsters came into the world during the final battles. So there are probably a lot more monsters again and thus the need for more Witchers is on the rise again. I suspect more Witchers from the other schools will be present in this W4 as well. Again, only if I am remembering correctly.

[@joshuadavis2175]

After what CDPR has done to Cyberpunk, they have earned my trust back. Give them a chance to cook and avoid listening to the BS

[@anitaremenarova6662]

I'm more afraid for the second and third witcher game after this one. Supposedly 6 years will be all the time they'll have for those two...

[@onabiv]

After Cyberpunk, I don't trust them at all. No matter what they have done to improve it, the core of that game is still pretty crap and the story is horrendously bad. That doesn't bode well when story is so important in Witcher.

[@joshuadavis2175]

@@onabiv that's a horrible take. If you want to miss out on the masterpiece that's current cyberpunk, your loss 💯

[@aouyiu]

@@onabiv People have said the story is almost as good as TW3, I'd think you'd agree TW3 has the best story out of all of the Witcher games. There's 3 Witcher games, and four times as many books. There's only one CDPR Cyberpnk game. So Witcher has a huge advantage, CP needs time to cook as a franchise, needs more entries. You didn't even beat the game, but it's your right to not like it anyway. Doesn't mean it's bad, because it isn't even if it's not _as good_ as TW3. The core of the game isn't bad either, they just took a far different creative direction with it. The sequel will prove to be a far better product in every way, just like TW3 was to TW2, and that to TW1.

[@pierrickoger1148]

After what CDPR has done to Cyberpunk, they have destroyed my trust forever (the game isn't really better since the launch, just better performances), story is just meh, gameplay is fine, rpg mechanics are... few, and the world is just badly designed and not memorable (beautiful and immersive though, but ubisoft based design...)

[@Musslandia]

When I saw the trailer for The Witcher 4, I wasn't at all surprised by the fact that she is a witcher. In the books and the game, it always seemed to me that this was her desire. Moreover, something that fits the theme is her wanting to escape her own destiny, and I also think she took the witcher trials as a way to uphold the tradition with the other witchers. This is my theory, what do you think?

[@Bucktopus37]

I'm sorry but the only reason one would reject the idea that a woman can become a witcher is straight up misogyny. There have always been women in fiction who defy the odds even when the people around them say otherwise. It's a tale almost as old as the Hero's Journey itself. Hell... in Halo, the Spartan IIs went through a similar process to receive their augments and no one batted an eye that 14 of the survivors were female. Just say you hate women and your argument will at least make some form of sense.

[@LuckyShekel4]

Cope. Mald. Seethe. Not reading all that.

[@Bucktopus37]

@@LuckyShekel4 LMAO bro can't read!

[@geraltgrey-mane695]

What if we get "last of us 2" treatment to Geralt? He dies then she thinks I need to become like my "father". Realy hope not but......

[@NorthzYT]

I noticed they called Ciri a Witcher, but we all have the IQ to know they didn't mean she was a literal one, I mean they even make it a point to emphasize the difference in-game when Ciri never uses potions, only blade oils. It was already a big source of conflict to use the Trial on Uma and Triss already voiced concerns about Ciri eating the far less dangerous supplements. The reason for Ciri to take the trials and somehow even survive has to be extremely convincing... something I fear they won't be able to pull off. I still remember the side quest where you feed a dying woman Swallow, and it cripples her for life, wiping out her memory and function as a person.

[@antonypavlovsky3386]

Ciri being one of the most powerful beings in the universe is not convincing?

[@NorthzYT]

@@antonypavlovsky3386 That's putting the cart before the horse, if you agree she's that powerful then why become a Witcher? Ciri is what the ancient mages were trying to create, Witchers were deemed a failure because they couldn't wield powerful magic.

[@kakun723]

​@NorthzYT she gives birth to a all powerful evil magic child according to the prophecy so yh she probably begin altruistic by thinking if I go sterile then destiny doesn't happen. Romances are in this game so I suspect the whole witcher thing here is smoke and mirror for the fact her elder blood gets unlocked later in game and she relizes begin a witcher doesn't stop her destiny of become the lady everyone wants to impregnate so their child is the next superman. Sounds like ripe story telling if u ask me but hey apparently alot of us aren't imaginative enough -_-

[@Dak1624]

Easy explanation. First. Ciri always wanted to be a Witcher. Second in books everyeone wanted Ciri to put a child in her. So her knowing that through the mutation she will not be able to have kids anymore she would be more eager to go through this. Two birds with one stone for Ciri in that moment. I think Witcher 4 might be Ciri's unborn child. After all Bauk in teaser says to Ciri that fate cannot be changed.

[@NorthzYT]

@@Dak1624 I feel like everyone forgot when Avallac'h pointed out the insane amount of Ciri's potential that was being left idle after the battle at Kaer Morhen. And I don't think their world is lacking in methods of going sterile...

[@sillyharriet1]

One thing about her being older in W4 that I’ve not seen people talk about it that enough time may have passed that she already has a child of her own. And that her motivation maybe that she’s trying to protect them. Just a thought

[@np134]

So the lack of evidence that she "can't" become a witcher therefore means she can become one without evidence to support that. The best aspect of the witcher 3 is their writing, so i'll give them the benefit of the doubt that they can write a coherent story that doesn't kick me out of immersion but it's a strange place they decided to put themselves in.

[@718Hokage]

The absence of evidence… isn't evidence of absence. 😂

[@anitaremenarova6662]

There is evidence, Avallac'h goes through the trial of the grasses and lives in witcher 3.

[@RYSHU20]

​@anitaremenarova6662 1. It was to strip his dna not turn him into a Witcher 2. He's Male

[@CoopHawke]

​@RYSHU20 and she's a super human lol.

[@anitaremenarova6662]

@@RYSHU20 1. Aka the difficult part of the trial 2. He's also an ancient elf, far from a boy.

[@anotheralt8010]

im sure the actual game will explain all the lore things people are fuming about, cdpr has handled the witcher ip pretty well imo. right now though it seems like people are just looking for a reason to get tilted and the culture war ghouls who havent played the previous games or read the books are capitalizing on that.

[@regalgiant1597]

People are no concerned about the lore, they are just unironically being anti-woman, not saying sexist, saying anti-woman, they use it as justifcation, why? Because lore can change, its not being retconned, a new recipe is amde, bam female witcher, but these people froth at the mouth screeching that cannot happen. Makes no sense.

[@MrEffectfilms]

Then I assume you didn't like any of the games because the books end with Geralt and Yennifer dying and Ciri becoming the new main character and declares herself a Witcher. The first game then begins with Geralt alive but now amnesiac (?) and at the end of 2 Yennifer is revealed to still be alive and is also amnesiac (?) but you're worried about THIS game messing with the lore? The lore has been ignored since Witcher 1, no one is worried about that. Their concerns have nothing to do with the lore.

[@regalgiant1597]

@@MrEffectfilms 'Their concerns have nothing to do with the lore.' Thats what I said mate

[@caseypearce9078]

There was a new conjunction at the end of the main story in W3, which would explain why there are actually more monsters in W4 (or at least new ones). Since she was responsible for that conjunction (with the help of Avallac'h), she feels she has an obligation to rid the world of them, hence her decision to undergo the trials. Also, the idea if she wishes to prevent others from taking advantage of the Elder Blood in the future, she could decide to undergo the trials because Witchers are infertile.

[@tranceform9459]

I believe Ciri controversy in W4 is mostly AOE damage from much of the identity politics bs that has been rampant in western society. If they lazily contrive the reasoning in the story, it can be a problem. I currently don't see an authentic indication that CDPR will do that. As long as they learn from the mistakes of cyberpunk launch, and continue improvements to gameplay, systems and mechanics as they have, this will be a terrific game. No doubt the aesthetic and atmosphere will be top tier. Weather animosity from a culture war succeeds in destroying, i certainly hope not.

[@Enrique-lk1nx]

The game director did an interview and he stated they have a lore team and they respect the books and that all your questions will be answered and there’s an answer for everything including how is Ciri a Witcher

[@LuckyShekel4]

No thanks. I’ll just play Witcher 3 again. The amount of IPs ruined in the last 10 years, it’s just pattern recognition now.

[@MrEffectfilms]

It's paranoia. Baldurs Gate wasn't ruined, Resident Evil wasn't ruined, Dead Space wasn't ruined, God of War wasn't ruined, Uncharted wasn't ruined, and Cyberpunk wasn't ruined once it was actually able to finish. You might as well just never play new games again if this your reasoning. That's fine, play what you want and what you enjoy but it's not pattern recognition it's fear.

[@MakerInMotion]

I think it makes sense to not make a purchase decision either way until you've seen gameplay and heard the opinions of reviewers you trust.

[@LuckyShekel4]

@@MakerInMotion yes. And I think people are forgetting how much the TV show left a bad taste with the real fans. And people are truly skeptical about this

[@shawnamiller191]

Head writer is still there and he proved he's still great with phantom liberty

[@TESMediaGroup]

Pattern recognition = paranoid schizohprenia

[@JaM-R2TR4]

Ciri said she drank black blood to defeat Garkain.. for those who dont know, it was in BLood and Wine ending when Ciri visits Geralt and they talk about her contracts and life as a witcher...

[@geraltvonriva5977]

Not every potion is poison, and it was a mistake from their side

[@JaM-R2TR4]

@@geraltvonriva5977 Black Blood is probably the most poisonous potion of all..

[@octavius9685]

I dont even care about Ciri, Im just pissed I STILL cant make my own Witcher. But it is what it is.

[@kityhawk2000]

That was never an option except in people imagination. It wasn't like CDPR floated this idea and took it back. It was always super unlikely they'd do that because it would be completely different from everything else they've done.

[@rafterman5072]

The Witcher games are character driven. Having a “blank canvas” protagonist would only hurt the narrative. I’m sure they will do the “make your own Witcher” for the spin off they are working on.

[@scully4life]

Obama was given "The Last Wish," which is the first book Sapkowski wrote about the Witcher, but it's not the first book in the saga. He wrote 2 short story collections before writing the saga: "The Last Wish" and "The Sword of Destiny". They set up the events of the sage, which stars with The Blood of Elves. It's really hard for me to pick a favorite, but if I had to pick, it would be "The Last Wish." Amazing book, but the short story the book is named for, where Geralt's fate is tied to Yennefer's is my favorite in the collection.

[@Blerdcalibur]

Imagine having a daughter. Raising her to be the best in your own profession. Retiring and watching her take over then suddenly being mad she's a woman and not some random man

[@Faceplay2]

That’s not why people are mad. People are mad because it makes literally no sense and you have to think that two out of three players wouldn’t have even gotten the Witcher ending. She has Eldon blood, which makes her far more powerful than an average Witcher. Why would she care about getting the Witcher trials? That’s what everyone including myself want to know the answer for.

[@Liatin1]

@@Faceplay2wait for the game…?

[@CornG4397]

5:50 it was the Witcher 2 as it was supposed to represent Poland's growing entertainment industry

[@jonnyxquest]

Ultimately, the reason people had a problem with Ciri being a Witcher, was for obvious culture war reasons. Though, those reasons aren't necessarily unfounded. Whether or not it's an issue comes down to the story reasons for this creative decision. If CDPR came up with a cool story reason for all this, then it should be a great game. However, if the reason they did it was just "because girlboss," then I think people have a good reason to be concerned.

[@jonny0z046]

Give a good balance game with replay value as good or better than its predecessor and I’ll happily give it time and money, that means DLC .

[@MrHellgate82]

Soon CDPR Will do the Warhammer 40k move and say "tHeRe WeRe aLWaYS fEMaLE WeATCHeRs"

[@seanfoodysmith3227]

did u watch the video?, he clearly explained how there always could have been female witchers based on info from the books but they are just uncommon. and if there would be a female witcher/someone who could survive the trials, it is definitely ciri.

[@catofdeepblack]

you are just an outrage NPC

[@MrHellgate82]

@seanfoodysmith3227 the guy in the video said exactly what I mean - in the 9 Witcher books there was no single mention of the female witchers. But watch the CDPR cucks trying to gaslight it, saying they always existed.

[@30CZEchpoint]

Go touch grass.

[@seanfoodysmith3227]

@@catofdeepblack can tell u are probably not smart enough to form an argument of ur own

[@ZeSgtSchultz]

I've only played a few minutes of Witcher 3 a few years ago and never picked it back up. I'm sure it's a great game, but it's kinda nice to have absolutely no horse in this race

[@JediKnightoftheTifaCult]

Apart from someone at CDPR saying Witcher 4 will be able to explore sexism in the world with Ciri, CDPR still deserves the benefit of the doubt.

[@Indigoyowl]

I mean, exploring medieval sexism could make for great content. What wouldn't is if it's generic modern sexism.

[@kityhawk2000]

Don't see why that would be a problem we saw Geralt experience all kinds of prejudice simply for being a Witcher so people being prejudiced towards Ciri for being a Witcher and a woman seems completely on brand

[@sillylittlesheepjax6009]

dont lie, that what not what they said in that interview,

[@JediKnightoftheTifaCult]

​@@sillylittlesheepjax6009I love CDPR so I would never lie on their name. So by all means tell me what was actually said.

[@sillylittlesheepjax6009]

@@JediKnightoftheTifaCult that they will tackle adult themes like in other witcher games, ppl will react to ciri being a fem witcher just like they reacted to geralt. there is nothing wrong in what they said

[@ChristopherNewlin]

You mentioned like more monsters from some arbitrary cause as a potential need for ciri to undergo the mutations. I think the issue here is that shed probably be a better Witcher if she just took the title and used the elder blood. Shes already OP at least end of Witcher 3. Thats what i really want them to explain. (You mention this later in the video but still want my point to stand here) I do like Neons explanation though because i think it fits thematically for her

[@fffx2]

Holy crap! Luke lives!

[@Gabriel902884]

it doesn matter what the story is set to make her be what matters is what players want

[@Gabriel902884]

honestly if they did not write on X that they want us to experiment "women struggles" in the witcher universe i would have probably bought the game but im tired of "the message"

[@DovahkiinMaster172]

To the point about monsters dwindling in the world and that being the reason why no one makes witchers anymore, is everyone forgetting the end of the base game had a second Conjunction of the Spheres? The very event that brought about magic and monsters to begin with?