The Truth About Lewis Cine

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20 күн бұрын

The truth about Minnesota Vikings third-year former first round pick safety Lewis Cine.
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@joshkirkwoodrealty3643
@joshkirkwoodrealty3643 19 күн бұрын
And yet…he’s played more than Davenport last season. 😂
@gopher4life1
@gopher4life1 19 күн бұрын
Kwesi mistake started with hiring Donashell as his DC. Cine, Booth, and Asamoah were Ed's picks.
@XibitmaxTradeShowExhibits
@XibitmaxTradeShowExhibits 19 күн бұрын
As someone who has suffered a compound fracture almost exactly like Cines, I don’t know if he will ever come back, this isn’t his or Kwesi’s fault. I can’t even run anymore, with this break if he can even run that is remarkable-but based on my experience with this type of leg break, blaming these guys for what is a freak accident is a bit rich, they both deserve a break. Personally I feel for the guy as this was totally out of his control
@benjaminerie6586
@benjaminerie6586 19 күн бұрын
One word Hamilton……. Kwesi should have been fired after 2022 draft 😊
@Zoeinks
@Zoeinks 19 күн бұрын
​@@benjaminerie6586 no matter how much you disagree with Kwesi and his decisions, firing a guy after 1 season as GM is absolutely asinine
@zackaryhaselius2226
@zackaryhaselius2226 19 күн бұрын
He literally couldnt even crack the 3rd string saftey spot BEFORE he was healthy. First round picks should AT LEAST be backups. This guy couldnt even be the BACKUPS backup.
@benjaminerie6586
@benjaminerie6586 19 күн бұрын
@@Zoeinks team have done it in the past after a terrible draft and season
@smoothoperator7023
@smoothoperator7023 19 күн бұрын
Clippers Paul George has been doing fine for years after his break.
@chanchkj
@chanchkj 19 күн бұрын
Hope he does well this year.
@BS_Stuff
@BS_Stuff 19 күн бұрын
I think McGlothern is going to get some run at CB. Looking at Khyree Jackson's profile I can see him getting some play at safety possibly filling Cine's spot if traded. Hell... both K-Jack and McG could be in the mix for some Safety play as CB/Safety hybrids.
@Tim21189
@Tim21189 17 күн бұрын
2022 was easily one of the worst drafts in team history. That first round trade back might be one of the worst in NFL history, based on what we could’ve had and what we got in return.
@conanbillybone2218
@conanbillybone2218 19 күн бұрын
2022 class was a bust. It happens. Let’s move on.
@anthonytobias5459
@anthonytobias5459 12 күн бұрын
Metellus and Bynum have really came around especially Metellus he’s a beast
@2SS_1LE
@2SS_1LE 19 күн бұрын
Ya there’s a reason why Cine isn’t playing but I wouldn’t cut him loose just yet let him play ST and see what happens. That draft isn’t anything special not even close and we can only hope way better players are in the future
@fittestover40
@fittestover40 19 күн бұрын
We should have been thrilled to death Hamilton fell to 12 and jumped on that pick. Only silver lining Jameson Williams hasn't been great
@dmx1721
@dmx1721 17 күн бұрын
even after trading down ounce or twice they still could have gotten CB trent Mcduffie witch i would have been fine with because then at least we would have had 2 solid CB's with trent and still picking up bryon M
@marcjohn9404
@marcjohn9404 19 күн бұрын
2022 draft was dookie, but notice that the first two offensive selections have been the most valuable for the team so far. Ed Ingram at 59, and Ty Chandler at 189. All of those defensive picks, which Donatell presumably was involved in picking, are all not so great. Also notice that our first defensive pick from the Flores era, Blackmon, came in and contributed right away. Obviously Jay Ward and Jaquelin Roy haven't done much yet, but they're day 3 picks.
@ariejohnson1944
@ariejohnson1944 18 күн бұрын
For sure, I'm a guy who gives the GM most of the blame and most of the praise for picks but having Ed in the building not only hurt Kwesi's decision making but ALSO didn't do the rookies any favors in their first NFL camp. Hell I bet even Kyle Hamilton would have had bigger issues adapting to the NFL with Ed as his coach instead of Mike Macdonald and John Harbaugh.
@kirkpatrick5219
@kirkpatrick5219 13 күн бұрын
I don’t think people realize how much picks are an organizational consensus. You pick players based on your coaches and your scouts. Kwesi himself can’t watch every little detail about all draftees. He has to rely on what his organization is telling him and it’s no coincidence, like you said, that donatell was giving kwesi terrible advice and flores has had a few picks turn out already.
@stephenbetts5641
@stephenbetts5641 19 күн бұрын
SKOLTIDE Dallas Turner here now!
@travissquarepants8923
@travissquarepants8923 19 күн бұрын
SKOLTIDE!!!!!!!! I Like That Name
@quest4adventure495
@quest4adventure495 19 күн бұрын
I don’t blame Louis Cine, he is what he is and he can’t help where he was drafted, or who we could’ve had instead. It was always pretty obvious that Kwesi, was setting himself up for disaster given the factors of who he passed on, who he traded with, and how little draft compensation he got in return… That being said if this draft class turns out the way I think it’s going to, I’m more than prepared to forgive him.
@robjohnson4059
@robjohnson4059 19 күн бұрын
He wasn't playing well before the leg break. Someone else needs to take that roster spot.
@TonyBoyOhBoy
@TonyBoyOhBoy 19 күн бұрын
People forget that. There were troubling signs that the game was too big for him right from the start even before the leg break.
@thomassewick5827
@thomassewick5827 19 күн бұрын
I wish him the best and I pray he excels this off season and preseason. I believe he will be a beast
@tweachiemercer1589
@tweachiemercer1589 19 күн бұрын
Wasting a roster spot on Cine is ridiculous. He has no chance to start or even play anything but some special team snaps.
@GiovannisDaedra
@GiovannisDaedra 19 күн бұрын
I mean if you are only special teams you still need to be on the roster…
@jeffreyolive8375
@jeffreyolive8375 19 күн бұрын
Cine if cut would add an additional 3.6 mil hit to the cap. If designated post 6/1 2.7 mil. Need to keep him for special team play and see if he improves this year. No penalty for releasing him next year.
@shawnjohnson9763
@shawnjohnson9763 19 күн бұрын
The thing about that trade is that the Lions blew it even worse. They gave up that draft capital to move up and got a receiver who has missed a lot of games and has produced something like 600 yards and 3 touchdowns in two years. They also could have drafted Kyle Hamilton or a number of other defensive players that would have helped their team.
@bmiller7698
@bmiller7698 19 күн бұрын
Just watching that guy on the sidelines says it all.
@savedbydave
@savedbydave 19 күн бұрын
I think the big question now is whether can he provide value with his 1st round draft pick salary. Cutting him this season will be a loss of 2 to 3 mil and I don't expect the Vikings to do that, but that means this season is his shot to really prove his value.
@evanwahlen2568
@evanwahlen2568 19 күн бұрын
You forgot to mention that some players bust because they arent smart enough and that is what hapened to Cine, he has all the physical tools but he just is not smart enough in Flores defense.
@beaudroux21
@beaudroux21 18 күн бұрын
You don’t draft developmental players in round one
@nikkicovington6389
@nikkicovington6389 19 күн бұрын
I hope he comes back and get his career started.
@KatoJac
@KatoJac 19 күн бұрын
I mean he definitely was speedy, 4.37 40 and an insanely fast 1.45 10 yard split.
@thomaspower221
@thomaspower221 19 күн бұрын
Lance Zierlein was spot-on, in his scouting report on Cine...
@davidculp6266
@davidculp6266 19 күн бұрын
His story reminds me a bit of the Robert Smith story. People might forget that Smith almost got the bust label because of early injuries and illness. Can Cine break out like Smith did?
@pauld6222
@pauld6222 19 күн бұрын
I believe he is just a bust. I think the issue may be that he was on that super talented Georgia defense. With all the talent around him, it may have made his job very easy, which hid his lack of elite player level of play.
@Marc-B
@Marc-B 19 күн бұрын
BUST. Just because we have a deep safety room doesn't mean we didn't utilize the pick we had. Its like when people said we can give up a lot in draft capital because we have cap space... What??? You want to utilize your assets regardless if you have more elsewhere. In the end Kwesi is learning and this draft will tell us a lot. I love the JJ McCarthy pick. Time will tell
@tahrendt1
@tahrendt1 19 күн бұрын
Andy, thanks for this cathartic video. Kwesi has to get better because his inaugural 2022 sucked (fact)! However, I luv what he accomplished in 2024. So, let’s collectively, now, move on towards our championship march in ‘24, ‘25 & ‘26! Although, I’ll be really bummed when Kyle Hamilton enters the HOF in a Ravens jersey 😢 Let’s Go…Skol
@brianbanks9858
@brianbanks9858 19 күн бұрын
Cine is an amazing user player in madden
@charlesallenrf8930
@charlesallenrf8930 19 күн бұрын
The fan anger is about the actual trade 12 to 32 and no future 1st round pick, it's not about Lewis Cine. I would have fired Kwesi after the 2022 draft. Something changed in the 2024 free agency and draft period-maybe more decision making was given to Brian Flores and Josh McCown?
@ryanoconnell2894
@ryanoconnell2894 19 күн бұрын
Knee jerk reactions like that is why it’s good you’re not running a team. 2024? So we can ignore how well Kwesi did last year? The fact that he dumped all the crap contracts so we could have the cap we do now and in the future? Now get into 2024. What changed is the cap space we had available to us in FA and the fact that he is finishing turning over the old regime. All thanks to Kwesi. People need to relax with this IMMEDIATE RESULTS crap. Just breathe. I want them to win too. How about we let them build some continuity and see what the Kwesi KOC team looks like which we probably see in its totality next year.
@arvieweathers294
@arvieweathers294 19 күн бұрын
That's what im mad about no extra 1rd going down that far with a rival to make it worse but he gotten better to be being GM that nailed this draft and off-season
@noahbreitenbach-dirks3809
@noahbreitenbach-dirks3809 19 күн бұрын
Bro would have fired the GM after 3 months and before the team even played a game under his tenure 😭
@A2Blizzard
@A2Blizzard 19 күн бұрын
How can you judge him when he's played very few snaps whatsoever.
@Jay-zp1qs
@Jay-zp1qs 19 күн бұрын
Lewis cine is gone bounce back he is a baller don’t wanna loose that guy trust me
@tavius88
@tavius88 19 күн бұрын
Lose
@user-xm5pj2cs6n
@user-xm5pj2cs6n 19 күн бұрын
LAST CHANCE, I NEVER LIKED THE OVERSEAS GAMES ANYWAY.. SOCCER FIELDS & RUGBY FIELDS ARE NOT FOR NFL PLAYERS 😆
@zackaryhaselius2226
@zackaryhaselius2226 19 күн бұрын
I want to lose him. No work ethic and he just sucks anyway.
@benchalmers8757
@benchalmers8757 14 күн бұрын
These loosers tryna correct you up in here like this some damn essay paper
@DJC1916
@DJC1916 19 күн бұрын
I prefer to forget about the 2022 draft. It was Kwesi's first and I'm ok letting it go. I see no reason to beat it to death still. Cine will most likely be cut, you could tell on the sidelines last year. He didn't engage with the team at all, just kind of wandered around by himself. He looked like a dude on his way out of the league.
@btownbear
@btownbear 11 күн бұрын
Still hoping for something out of Cine, but not at the cost of roster/cap space if he is not a legit presence. I would hope that Kwesi isn't motivated by sunk cost, but much like with Ingram, I worry a bit that it could be more about GM hubris. I also can't believe that KOC and Kwesi would easily listen to Donatell whispers about guys he liked on their first draft night in MN, but that 2022 class continues to sting regardless, even without Hamilton comparisons.
@kft590
@kft590 12 күн бұрын
Drafting Lewis Cine was bad enough but Kwesi gave away the 12th pick in the for the 32nd pick a pick swap and a third round pick, losing the value of a mid third round pick, when you trade down you should always get more value then when you trade up. Detroit coaches and front office were laughing at what they gave up for the pick.
@markoakes54
@markoakes54 16 күн бұрын
Remember draft picks are a team effort of the coaches, scouting department and GM. KAM bears some responsibility for the Cine pick but so does the rest of the organization. KAM also doesn't require a lot of credit for how well the 2024 draft went, it is a team game in so many ways.
@stuartanderson6785
@stuartanderson6785 19 күн бұрын
My understanding is that he just can't pick up the complexities of playing safety.
@KyleJWest-vn9kn
@KyleJWest-vn9kn 12 күн бұрын
Kwesi has dropped a few hints over the years that 2022 was a difficult year because he didn’t fully have his system or staff in place for that draft. I think its fair to blame Cine on Rick Spielman still 😂 Seriously though, chances are he really did come in so late into he process that they leaned on whatever direction Rick and his staff already had in place. Plus Ed Donatelle being an awful DC having influence over this draft didn’t help either. The issue moving forward is Cine doesn’t seem to be worth a roster spot. Brian Flores is a mad man and if he cannot find a way to get Cine onto the field than just release the guy.
@jpschumacher9830
@jpschumacher9830 19 күн бұрын
Lewis (never to be) Cine..
@getwreckednerds6433
@getwreckednerds6433 8 күн бұрын
Well you know its bad when you get more production from your 5th round running back and 7th round tight end then your 1st round and 2 second round picks
@shawneg4412
@shawneg4412 7 күн бұрын
Josh Metellus is our best defensive player now.
@hmong_keeb_kwm
@hmong_keeb_kwm 15 күн бұрын
That preseason game where he missed that tackle going low as the running back jumped over him and went for that long run TD, did not look good and personally was what made him not a starter.
@Z-Bart
@Z-Bart 19 күн бұрын
I'm sure he has worked extremely hard to get back. Play him.
@NamelessViking01
@NamelessViking01 17 күн бұрын
From what i heard is he cant understand flores defense as one of the main reasons he doesnt get any play time. You kinda need to know the plays to be able to play
@justinderosa6915
@justinderosa6915 19 күн бұрын
Real talk we had to eat that one for Kwesi to learn on. I checked all the boxes in his world and probably expected him to be just as good as Hamilton . I really think he killed the draft this year. He could have caved and sold the farm but didn’t and we still have the QB we wanted and an elite edge who will hopefully at least be a solid replacement for Hunter. Kwesi will get extra picks for next year and going forward. We still have our first which is HUGE.
@33crushman
@33crushman 18 күн бұрын
I respect that he changed course and was aggressive moving up to choose quality over quantity this year, but wow was 2022 a disaster he is very lucky he didn't get fired because that was literally the worst performance in the league that year by a GM
@rakeremis6730
@rakeremis6730 14 күн бұрын
Watch preseason games last year. Cine played well
@geeleeskolvikes
@geeleeskolvikes 17 күн бұрын
Draft position shouldn't matter, if a lower drafted player is better. Unfortunately, Cine never worked out with the Vikings. Keep the best players at each position.
@chadhalonen9406
@chadhalonen9406 19 күн бұрын
He definitely was a speed merchant. It’s why Kwesi drafted him and not Hamilton. Hamilton ran like 4.6 and Cine ran a 4.3. Cine just looked sooo small out there and didn’t adjust. Kwesi probably learned you can’t just draft speed.
@WhatIsThis-ej2ot
@WhatIsThis-ej2ot 18 күн бұрын
He was terrible with 2 good legs. Now with one, he’s worthless.
@SEHughes08
@SEHughes08 18 күн бұрын
Best case scenario he can make an improvement and be worth a 5th for draft capital
@A-Bomb401
@A-Bomb401 18 күн бұрын
The truth about the Lewis cine situatuon is we had the opportunity to take Jordan Davis but we traded down and took him 🤦🏽‍♂️
@jeffwallenta2851
@jeffwallenta2851 19 күн бұрын
That whole draft class deserves an F it was K Hershel walker bust. Hopefully they will never trade down again. K you’re lucky you still have a job
@benjaminerie6586
@benjaminerie6586 19 күн бұрын
Why did we let this GM pick a QB when he can’t even pick a strong safety?
@scottieboy415
@scottieboy415 13 күн бұрын
Kwesi is just winging it, i truly feel like he has no plan, the 2022 class could be the worst in our history, his fa last year were horrible, and lets be honest he wanted drake Mayne badly and was willing to give up 4 1sts for it. And honestly Mayne kinda looks like a dope. He got fleeced on almost every trade hes made so far, and i think he lucked into Mccarthy. JJ WILL SAVE HIS CAREER
@chrismakowsky2023
@chrismakowsky2023 19 күн бұрын
I'm sure the Vikings will let him compete for his place, the question is if Lewis Cine up to the challenge.
@anthonygarbers4955
@anthonygarbers4955 19 күн бұрын
We COULD have had Sauce Gardner. I was rooting hard for him that year.
@joemcallister128
@joemcallister128 18 күн бұрын
Yeah, except... Sauce went #4 and we were at #12. So how do you figure that "we could have had Sauce"?
@DJDonkeytron
@DJDonkeytron 19 күн бұрын
Could've had Trent McDuffie too... He made a lot of good plays in the Super Bowl
@coriyoncarlisle9917
@coriyoncarlisle9917 19 күн бұрын
He ran a 4.3
@SG-qh1zb
@SG-qh1zb 19 күн бұрын
thats what i thought, 4.3 guy
@SparkyFinch
@SparkyFinch 18 күн бұрын
Kwesi drafted this class with a different defensive staff and only a couple months in the building
@theundergroundkitchen2219
@theundergroundkitchen2219 16 күн бұрын
Cine has no interest in playing football. I don't think he's smart enough to play in the pro's. Boot can't cover anyone so he's a bust as well. Asamoah who can't tackle is a bust that needs to be cut. The first 3 picks are complete garbage. The scouting department needs to be fired!! Kwesi doesn't impress me at all.
@A2Blizzard
@A2Blizzard 19 күн бұрын
Also I would keep him over theo or Jay ward because he has way more upside and I thought that's how you are I mean we pick JJ who has barely thrown but has upside what's the difference
@guitarhiker4449
@guitarhiker4449 18 күн бұрын
Feel bad for the guy but if its not working cut your losses. Its unfortunate but thats the nature of the beast (NFL). Nailor hasnt done a whole lot either. Theirs a few others that just havent made the grade. But we are going to be a force this season!!! Skol !!!! 🏈💨
@johncarolan2769
@johncarolan2769 18 күн бұрын
2024 is still a question mark
@ryannewazada2102
@ryannewazada2102 18 күн бұрын
This is a bust pick.
@randallmorgan6697
@randallmorgan6697 19 күн бұрын
To add insult to injury, Detroit had 2 first round picks in the next draft.... facts
@issazeele1707
@issazeele1707 19 күн бұрын
Harrison Smith's job was on the line, or so we thought
@zaragoza44
@zaragoza44 19 күн бұрын
Bust. Next…
@otero3rdRD
@otero3rdRD 15 күн бұрын
Pop the bubble, 😢Lewis is a waist of money
@aidenravy
@aidenravy 19 күн бұрын
Ingram, Nailor, Ty chandler seem to be our best pick from the class. Evans gets used so...theres that
@MichaelBarone-mw8dh
@MichaelBarone-mw8dh 19 күн бұрын
He traded down expecting Tyler Linderbaum 'C' to be available.
@kevinsauers4120
@kevinsauers4120 19 күн бұрын
Could of also drafter joedan Davis at 12.
@Mpsteve77
@Mpsteve77 19 күн бұрын
Bust on every level.
@thomaspower221
@thomaspower221 19 күн бұрын
Vikings could have had Hamilton. I think Kwesi learned from this, as we can all see, he trades UP the draft board now.
@scottshort3718
@scottshort3718 17 күн бұрын
Personally, I have nothing against Cine, and not wish him any ill will. However, given his injury, I think he just didn’t work out and is likely a cut candidate.
@xiongchingla
@xiongchingla 19 күн бұрын
Lewis isnt making the 53 this year, it's okay. Swing and a miss, you have 3 strikes per at bat
@brettgustin9471
@brettgustin9471 16 күн бұрын
Nailor is constantly hurt.
@peezy651
@peezy651 19 күн бұрын
We got to go Denny Green style and best player plays and stays. If you ain’t him then go play for Zim…
@bobfoley3323
@bobfoley3323 13 күн бұрын
Yes, BUST. End of conversation
@AsafDay
@AsafDay 18 күн бұрын
I hope he gets traded for a 6th. Otherwise, it's a cut.
@shawneg4412
@shawneg4412 7 күн бұрын
Cine, Booth, Asamoah will all be cut ahead this season start
@Rodewarrior
@Rodewarrior 19 күн бұрын
I feel like him breaking his leg is downplayed the fact the man broke his thigh bone I believe and is just as quick … the man will not be cut or traded I think Bynum is getting traded for d li e or o line
@matthew1182
@matthew1182 19 күн бұрын
It sucks but it's the way she goes boys.
@smoothoperator7023
@smoothoperator7023 19 күн бұрын
Speaking of Andrew Booth.....🙄
@smd561
@smd561 19 күн бұрын
Trade them all. Grab some draft picks.
@tweachiemercer1589
@tweachiemercer1589 19 күн бұрын
WTH would want any of them?
@smd561
@smd561 18 күн бұрын
@@tweachiemercer1589 good question.🤣
@bigdaddyo3382
@bigdaddyo3382 19 күн бұрын
BUST! Even before the injury! Imagine if KAM had selected Hamiliton ...
@davidnelson6874
@davidnelson6874 18 күн бұрын
Kyle Hamilton has nothing to do with it.
@pabloaguilera4558
@pabloaguilera4558 19 күн бұрын
Remains to be Cine
@zackaryhaselius2226
@zackaryhaselius2226 19 күн бұрын
Ty Chandler being the best pick of that draft is just pathetic. Hes not even that good. Hes a fine backup scatback.
@tmoney7735
@tmoney7735 19 күн бұрын
Cine and Booth will be on the practice squad
@jeffreyolive8375
@jeffreyolive8375 19 күн бұрын
Really can’t. Need to be cut first and both would result in an additional cap hit this year. Zero if Cine released next year and slight cap saving if Booth released in ‘25
@user-uo7lo5vg3g
@user-uo7lo5vg3g 19 күн бұрын
Good thing lions drafted a bust 😂👍 so it doesn’t matter
@ChrisRoberts-ye9wk
@ChrisRoberts-ye9wk 19 күн бұрын
Some players bust cuz…PAUSEEEE
@deanmartin5578
@deanmartin5578 18 күн бұрын
He’s gonna get cut this off season during training camp
@mikeblasterock3841
@mikeblasterock3841 19 күн бұрын
It's unfortunate what happen to Cine.He may never recover from that injury.
@ScarecrowsDream1977
@ScarecrowsDream1977 19 күн бұрын
Let's face it. He is a bum. I lived in Georgia. My cp-wprker coaches local players. He really keeps up with Georgia talent. When we drafted him, he said, he is a bum. I hate for him to be right. Looks like he is right. He has been right about a lot of local talent over the years. I was hoping he is wrong about CIne. Maybe, the Vikings should call him about Georgia players. I have to admit, he is more right than we are. He told me about Anthony Edwards 4 years ago. Looks like he is right again.
@calebschmutzler9010
@calebschmutzler9010 19 күн бұрын
😅Bro absolutely horrible to say that lewis cine brings out the hate no he doesnt horrendous disgusting take the kid has one of the wrost injuries you could imagine on the field and he still is playing in games not alot very minimal but it's not like he's only been sitting on the bench literally doing nothing he's working on it and he's going to come back and if he doesn't well that's okay because he had a horrendous injury and to say that he brings out the most hate out of the new generation of Vikings fans is absolutely disgusting bro yes i understand hes barely palyed at all a total of 10 games total and minimum snaps bit to say hes what we are mad at is just stupid imagine getting a absolute gruesome horrible injury and your fans turn on you and are mad at you that you're injured or that your not playing in games like what? it's all due to the injury I would assume because if it was straight strictly playing I feel like they would have released him by now because why would you keep him around I have a feeling that kevin and kwesi probably know more than you do bud... Sometimes I like watching the channel but then you sometimes say dumb s*** like this and it's just like bro put yourself in somebody else's shoes for one time like I get it they are multimillion dollar atheltes but they are also human
@jaybake248556
@jaybake248556 19 күн бұрын
What if they move Cine to LB to pair with Pace jr.
@drewneighbors7866
@drewneighbors7866 19 күн бұрын
Too small
@isiahbradley7962
@isiahbradley7962 19 күн бұрын
Lewis cine was bound to bust
@lennyjohnson9331
@lennyjohnson9331 19 күн бұрын
Well , this draft he made sure he didnt draft another polished turd i guess
@jrunna198
@jrunna198 19 күн бұрын
I still got faith in Lewis Cine
Trágico final :(
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