The TRUTH About The Einstar | Why Shining 3D's Most Affordable Scanner Might Not Be Right For You

So you wanna know the truth.
The Einstar has become one of our favorite prosumer 3D scanners on the market with pro-level features finally being made available under $1000. It's overall well rounded package makes it excel in nearly every situation where other's may falter but it isn't without its shortcomings. Watch Cole, Rob and for the first time Matt talk about their experiences with the Einstar.
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Shining 3D has finally done it. A truly powerful $959 prosumer 3D scanner that we can definitely say is the new benchmark. The Einstar brings Shining 3D's professional expertise to the prosumer sector, combining highly accurate cameras and sensors with industrial grade software. That's right, Shining 3D took some of our favorite EXScan features seen in the Pro HD, HX, and H versions and made them available for those looking to dip their feet into the waters of 3D scanning and reverse engineering.
So how does the Einstar stack up against other affordable scanners like the Revopoint Pop 2 and Creality CR-Scan? Let us know in the comments if you would like us to do a head to head comparison.
Chapters:
0:00 - Opening
0:16 - Intro
0:44 - What Do We Think About the Einstar
1:16 - Special Guest
3:12 - Software Revelations
4:28 - Cole's Take
4:42 - The Bucket
6:00 - The Einstar isn't a Professional Product
7:20 - Back to the Bucket
8:06 - Accuracy
9:18 - Why Do We Carry Shining 3D Products
9:49 - Ask Us Questions in the Comments
, Cole McHone, Matt Masamori
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[@brettturnage533]

I think you said it exactly: Prosumer. They made the first prosumer scanner that is leaps and bounds above other scanners in its $1000 category. Yes it is not a professional unit but is sooooooo much better than scanners that cost the same.

[@brettturnage533]

Also you guys could’ve mentioned the hefty computer that the Einstar requires. Also, love the grumpy guy in the chair. He’s like that cold chill in the wind or that feeling when you’re reading a good book and then you get a paper cut-he’s reality personified. Don’t take his mic 🎤 away.

[@rohithrao9050]

amazing , thanks , can u plz suggest which is better scanner as of now for human body scan ? under 700 to 1000$ ?

[@gordontremain1873]

I am having trouble getting my Enistar 3d scanner to load the latest firmware. Any ideas.

[@yoringer]

Can you scan a sheet metal part?, like a bumper

[@android4cg]

Would be great so see some DETAILED comparison about Einstar and Einstein 2x/HD/HX.

[@smallnuts2]

Can you do a person scan and compare it to a H and pro hd model?

[@rohithrao9050]

whats abt creality CR-Scan Otter 3D Scanner is that any good ?

[@michaelblurry6559]

I think a $2500 scanner better than the einstar, but not as accurate as the HX would be a killer category. Every modern auto performance shop I now would buy one.

[@user-od6gi4lz8t]

It depends, we have 9.000$ scanners that are inferior for our user case compared to Einstar 😂

[@mrkarl10001]

Great video! Would you recommend the einstar for scanning plates of food? Colour & resolution of the food being my main concern? What budget laptop would recommend that would be able to run the software ok?

[@VisionMiner]

Any gaming laptop around $1500 will do the trick -- go for upgradeable RAM. H2 will do 500x better for colors, and is only $5k :)

[@BinaryClay]

I have an older Einscan Pro that I purchased second-hand at a good price. It included the industrial pack for a total of around $1100. I'm considering a texture camera for it, but the Einstar is almost the same price as the camera alone. I know it's hard to recommend either as you don't know my use case in details, but is there obvious reasons for going for the Einstar, or would I be better of with the texture camera for my Einscan Pro?

[@ZomPaul]

Been binge watching you guys for past week.. good stuff.

[@sjwpcbdesign]

Good video. One thing I would like to point out about why most 3D scanners don't provide an absolute accuracy, this is because they can't. I work with designing 3D vision scanners and there are several factors that plan into this. First, distance to the scan surface causes the image to appear in different image planes. As the image is farther away, its resolution decreases. As it gets closer to the camera it increases. So you ask a question what accuracy? The highest accuracy would be when the camera is at its closest possible which is meaningless in the real world. Once you get past the physical limits of the imaging, then you have the lighting, material reflections, motion jigger. All of these play into it. Therefore, one could specify for the worst case and then add some margin, but then you get people who don't understand the physicals and engineering behind it, making statements that they are seeing better accuracy than mentioned. So, what do you do. I believe it is better to provide nothing and let the user decide if it is good enough for them. FYI, I designed a 5-camera system, which can scan a 1.5 cubic meter region, at average worst case accuracy of 0.2mm (which is "good enough" at a set distance), in 4 planes simultaneously, for less than $10,000 in under 4 seconds. Which is really good. This of course is for the steel infrastructure industry though. Now, here I said a specific accuracy. But really, I said at a specific distance (?) with a measured GRR average worse case accuracy for a specific setup; does it matter is the question! What is important is the end result of the information because this information in turn is used to guide an 8-axis robotic system with a plasma cutting tool to cut out of steel with a total system accuracy of +/- 0.5 mm. So, what am a saying? Well accuracy is in the hands of the situation and individual. As long as the end result meets one's specification that is all that really matters. For me, after years of working with vision, if I see someone give me an absolute accuracy promise, I will usually give them a big finger, because those numbers are subjective and difficult to reproduce unless it is under the exact same conditions. Vision is always difficult, even in a lab setting. Thats my professional 2 cents of thoughts.

[@benjamingrice4063]

So then what is the accuracy?

[@stellioiscrazy]

can the einstar do car parts? pistons,rod,cylinder head scan?

[@rickmellor]

I have the POP2, Mini and Einstar. The Revopoints are toys. I’ve been able to get very usable scans of car parts when using AESUB. I’m saving my ducats for the HX or HD Pro.

[@pascaljean2333]

Using 16 cores and 100gb ram for einstar. Makes a huge difference.

[@Aleks2017]

Can you scan pets like a dog? Is there any problem if the dog Is moving? I mean, if the dog change its position

[@DownLow-xz4tw]

VISIONMINER website wont let me ship to New Zealand address 😭

[@infernaldaedra]

In school 3d scanners were always some of the most fascinating tech to me. Personally the technology sector has the most potential. And I'm glad you guys always stay on point with the really innovative 3d technology. Eventually 3d scanners as soon as phones started getting the tech I was excited too. I think we've got good stuff coming soon.

[@DarkClosetOfTheMind]

Einstar is the Miata of the scanner world, I like the analogy :)

[@StonegateCreations]

I've had good success scanning a 30" xmas statue, but the ergonomics could be improved to reduce grip fatigue. Overall worth the cost, IMO.

[@amjadrameez1859]

Im keen to see a review/comparison between the einstar and the revopoint range 3d. With the new revopoint software. Im torn between the 2 and im not sure which one to get lol.

[@michaelblurry6559]

Theres a guy who has done detailed comparisons of these scanners. Making for Motorsport. All you need to learn is how to do a youtube search.

[@amjadrameez1859]

@@michaelblurry6559 and all you'd have to do is read the reply properly 😂 I did specifically say between the einstar and the range 3d... Not the pop 2 which is what he reviews in his video. He also doesn't cover the new revoscan software which apparently makes their whole lineup of scanners much better.

[@michaelblurry6559]

@@amjadrameez1859 okay you got me there. Ill take the L and apologies. That being said for larger objects the Einstar is so far ahead it's not even funny. If you're like a lot kids today and missed out on your childhood and like to scan cartoon characters then the Revo would be a better choice.

[@bubbleslaboratory]

I bought it after watching all the reviews. So far, I don't regret it - it's totally worth the price. I did try to scan quite small parts like computer fan blades, and it does work. It requires some effort to transfer to CAD, but I can't complain. If 3D scanning is not your primary business, this is the scanner to choose

[@innovpixels]

I think we're due an update to the comparisons between Revo Scan 5 and EXStar. Revo Scan 5 is a huge upgrade

[@michaelblurry6559]

If you throw everything at the Einstar when scanning it works great. Targets, spray and proper lighting will yield great results. I sent out an item to be scanned using an Artec Leo, and to be honest it was not worth the price they charged me. While more accurate, the Einstar was just fine for my use (automotive suspension products). If scanning figurines etc, I think it's a different story.

[@rslasheverything1652]

How much did they charge u?

[@michaelblurry6559]

@@rslasheverything1652 1200 to scan a few items.

[@infernaldaedra]

I have no idea why you guys aren't more notable in the 3d community yet either your opinions are usually on point

[@OxaudioPhilly]

Its June of 2024, still the best under 1000$?

[@yoringer]

What about the rivopoint range?

[@Todestelzer]

Software and Tracking aren’t that good I heard but didn’t test the range myself.

[@VisionMiner]

Comparison coming soon!

[@sock-boi8166]

Matt that new new. fresh face, fresh takes❤

[@VisionMiner]

New videos hosted by Matt coming soon!

[@slarti42uk]

I have to say that from my experience with the Revopoint pop 2, or mini vs the Einstar, it’s night and day, the einstar gets results, but the Revopoints are yet to scan very much with any success. The Revopoint software is terrible and the field of view is so small that it’s almost impossible to use the target mode as it can’t see enough targets given they’re the 6mm ones. I really would like to go with the HD pro 2020 or the HX, but I’m not a pro, so it’s not making me money. If I could work out a way to sell the service and make £12K I’d have an HX tomorrow, it looks so good. In terms of accuracy, I was scanning parts inside an old 8mm cine projector and can out at about +0.4mm on 20mm and 45mm diameter parts. Easy enough in that use case to then “assume” the true dimension.

[@Todestelzer]

I have a Einscan-SP and a Revopoint mini. The mini can scan better in some circumstances. I had to scan a bottle screw cap and the SP struggled scanning it. The Mini did it without issue. Scanned the thread without issue. Use scanning targets to improve the tracking. I printed small pyramids and place it around the object I scan. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jGfQhoCEp9x-arM for example. But the software of Revopoint still is a nightmare 😂

[@LaserItPro]

"not that accurate but easy to use" Also Ddin't find it easy to use. Constantly lost tracking. Maybe fine for video games but not reverse engineering parts

[@danialhowe9814]

i have one. i hate it. not as liberating or great as the hype would suggest. had it for 6 months. never really saved me any time or changed what i do... in truth most times id rather just not fuck with it for the headaches

[@Z-add]

So its either $1000 or $5000. Nothing in between.

[@VisionMiner]

At this point, nope, not really. And it's really $1k or $10k, unless you're specifically doing organics/bodies etc with the H, which is $5k. If you're doing professional stuff, at this point, it's really necessary to get a professional scanner.

[@k-lab]

talking about 3D scanning with almost no visual content related to scanning is a bit like dancing about cars instead of driving them 🤔

[@briant444]

how bot compare it to itself, not 10x priced scanner. it is not easy to use, the documentation is so poor i cant figure some things out at all. still trying and searching vids. u need a lot of ram, 16gigs is not enough. your advices are not clear or useful

[@user-un8xm4bm7e]

I want Matt to replace you.

[@NeoIsrafil]

Yah... Revo LIES about their specs... Im sorry, theres NO way its anywhere near .02mm. I feel like 1000 dollars is a lot of money.... And for 1000 dollars you should get more than a toy. Maybe not a medical device... But more than a toy.

[@m4rvinmartian]

Einstar is crap. Software is crap. Learn how to do photogrammetry.

[@VisionMiner]

You must have a crappy computer.... way less effort than photogrammetry, and better than any scanners in it's PRICE class -- that being said, the $5k-$16k scanners are FAR superior. Photogrammetry has it's advantages and drawbacks -- if you're looking for measurements, and not just 3D models, scanners take the cake every time.

[@dragosm2686]

Amazing informercial. But, it's BS. The product is bad - when compared to what the influencers post on youtube - and the return policy is a complete fraud. They say 14 days money back - then it takes 13 to deliver and the refund is only for products you don't touch or don't work. So, yes, complete misrepresentation, does not fit the purpose and it is over hyped by paid influencer marketers. Don't buy this crap!

[@3dkiwi920]

I've not been able to find a definitive answer for the Volumetric accuracy for the Einstar, would be good to see some measured tests on large parts.

[@JonHimself]

I don't get this either - I did dimensional tests on my channel and got great feedback. This is the thing that stops me for getting a larger scanner, I'm not gonna fork out $1,000 to find out what I already suspect. I think reviewers DONT KNOW what volumetric accuracy actually is and the only spec that truly matters (ie mm/metre) or when they test it they find like most of these scanners; they're far too inaccurate to be usable where volumetric accuracy is desirable.

[@3dkiwi920]

@@JonHimself Yeah I think it's all apart of the shill, they would never post accurate numbers even if they had them.

[@NuvoVision]

Josh Hawley is that you?

[@john.pado2336]

.....and Matt