The Truth About The USDM AE86

[@RegularCars]

Woah, never knew about the VIN number on the SR5

[@Progressionmotorsports]

No worries. I'm best buds with Thomas, and he didn't know about them either when we first met.

[@KingVenitus]

RegularCars hello mr. Regular

[@KOKO-fd3zr]

fuck you mean you never knew, you're the reason why 12 year old kids wont stop screaming at me on the internet about how i know nothing about AE86s! -12 year old kid screaming at you on the internet

[@steveellsworth2547]

K O K O・ヘクマティアル ⁢ dude I LOVE AE86s

[@goralAdrian]

I love AE86s too. Greats, legandary cars.

[@moreskids]

THANK YOU

[@Progressionmotorsports]

Cheers fellas~ Keep it up!

[@arodbiker45]

More Skids moreskids as f'

[@nihonhikikomorikyoki]

ayy lmao. I was there 4 u bb

[@tomwoodend5535]

More Skids ahahahahah was thinking about your video during this

[@specialkway5286]

This is just like when people try to tell me that the Acura RSX is not a Honda Integra

[@JakNotJack]

Honda never made an integra. Acura did though

[@stealthlol266]

Sorry buddy, honda did make the integra, they were rebadged as acura's for the american market

[@odhdoh]

+The One Leaf Man Honda did make an integra most popular dc2 and dc5

[@JakNotJack]

Aah, didn't know that. Wasn't defending the integra, it's rice either way

[@alex11055]

Would like to point out that Honda did make Integra and its not only the Dc2 but the Dc5, but it's only for Asian market though so u Americans obsviously cant get them.. personally own a Dc5 Type R in Hong Kong and yes Rsx's is somewhat a dc5, but compared to a type R, it does not have a lightened chassis (1300kg compared to 1160kg) that is featured in type r's. If u really want a real type r, it's better for u to move country.

[@notnilc20]

you are my hero.....i get tired of seeing the same posts all the time on youtube vids "that's not a ae86". all because of that one guys review..... this video seriously needed to be made. thank you.

[@ericsson_motorsports]

@wUnp Well that's a weird comparasion, could you actually argue about the subject instead? The GT-S is an AE86, the differences are so small that it just doesn't make sense to call it by a different name. Using your logic it would be the same as your girfriend taking off a necklace or something I guess...

[@OriginalKingRichTv]

@wUnp no your absolutely right even if people can't accept the truth for what it is.

[@OriginalKingRichTv]

@@ericsson_motorsports explain how both are different

[@ericsson_motorsports]

@@OriginalKingRichTv The small differences are the slightly reduced power because of emissions and different bumpers. Both of those are such tiny differences that it makes absolutely no sense to give the american AE86 a different name. Sure the VIN says AE88 but where it says MODEL it says AE86. Why would you go by the VIN and not the MODEL?

[@stingysmailbox8209]

The AE85 has an SOHC 1.5 liter 3A-U. And the AE86 has a DOHC 1.6 liter 4A-GE. That's quite a difference.

[@ryoamora8655]

The AE86 ALSO has the 4AC carbureted 1.6 sohc engine, too...Don't forget that.

[@HachiKamuri]

​@@ryoamora8655a simpler way to put that into terms would be: AE86 = 4A AE85 = 3A

[@growingup4487]

the extra CC is from the heads

[@laowhy86]

Very interesting. There are stock 86s selling here in China for 50-100k USD. It's absolutely insane. I am curious if they are Japan spec or otherwise.

[@qhontholgaming2666]

laowhy86 the fuck 100k usd..

[@Compaxius]

laowhy86 WOAH EVEN IN THE PHILIPPINES THERE WERE HALF OF 86S ON ROAD

[@ayeena092498]

I was hoping to see an s13 or any silvia on any convention just before i left the Philippines. All I saw was thots

[@Compaxius]

who thots car girls?ofcourse thots and others are not thots

[@thumpertorque_]

We meet again C-Milk!

[@VeraTheTabbynx]

Thank you for this clarification. I'm so tired of finding LHD AE86 owners getting shit on by idiots who don't know what they're talking about saying that they don't have a "real" AE86 just because of the VIN, when AE86 refers to the chassis code.

[@croissantleclerc8650]

The guy in the Uhaul at 2:26 knows wassup

[@Skwisgar2322]

MAP = manifold absolute pressure, not mass air pressure.

[@Progressionmotorsports]

Has been noted on the video.

[@Skwisgar2322]

Ahh, thanks.

[@user-cu1dz5io2i]

D A N G E R T O M A N I F O L D

[@Mr.4AGE]

@@Progressionmotorsports USDM 4AGE uses an AFM not a MAF. While the objective is to end up with a measurement of the total amount (by mass) of air that is going in, the function and method of signal interpretation is entirely different. An AFM is not a "mass flow device." Air flowing through the AFM causes a spring-loaded "flapper" door to deflect an amount proportional to the dynamic pressure of air flow. The AFM sends both flapper door angle and temperature to the ECU in separate signals. The ECU interprets the flapper door angle as dynamic pressure and combines this with the temperature reading to determine the mass flow. A MAF is a "mass flow device." The ECU interprets the cooling of a heated wire element in the MAF to determine the mass flow. The lower the temperature, the greater the density, and/or the greater the volume passing over the heated element, the greater the cooling.

[@Mr.4AGE]

@@Progressionmotorsports This is also why you can clock an 4AGE AFM. It is a common trick used to make the engine run rich. you wouldn't be able to clock a MAF since there is nothing to calibrate and usually has no moving parts

[@Heliosaurus]

DEJA VU IVE JUST BEEN IN THIS PLACE BEFORE HIGHER ON THE STREET AND I KNOW ITS MY TIME TO GO

[@Progressionmotorsports]

CALLING YOU AND THE SEARCH IS A MYSTERY STANDING ON MY FEET ITS SO HARD WHEN I TRY TO BE ME WOAH

[@MarcoAlcazar95]

(SOLO GUITAR)

[@drift3ighthysx54]

CALLING YOU AND THE SUBJECTS A MYSTERY STANDING ON MY FEET ITS SO HARD WHEN I TRY TO BELEIVE WOAHHHH!!!!!!!!!!

[@gunnroses9120]

(Laugh In Japanese)

[@rainretribute9852]

dananananna dannnanehhh doo dooo dee dee danananaehhh

[@bobbyd4213]

Basically, if I buy an AE85... I can slap AE86 motor, suspension and drivetrain too?

[@GTChucker86]

Yep, that's what some privateer racing teams in Japan do back then, they buy a a bone stock AE85 and then modify it by dropping a 4-AG racing variant motor, racing coilovers, roll cages etc for racing use cause its cheaper that way than buying an AE86 that has a 4-AG already

[@IdolMako]

Still an 85

[@ericsson_motorsports]

@lPartyBoy69 You're the one getting facts from cartoons. There is a car known as the AE85, it came in both Trueno and Levin variants. You can not tell an 85 and an 86 apart from the outside except if you look at the rear axle because the 85 came with drum brakes, but still that can be swapped. Let me repeat: Levin and Trueno are COSMETIC packages. The AE85 could be bought in BOTH Levin and Trueno. The AE86 could also be bought in BOTH Levin and Trueno. I wish Initial D used a Trueno AE85 so 12 year olds wouldn't keep screaming about any Levin being an 85 on the internet

[@ericsson_motorsports]

Levin is not the same as 85, the 85 simply refers to a different engine and drivetrain changes. From the way you're taking I'll assume that you do not own a Trueno, even if you didn't just make it up then you are still very ignorant. The difference between a Levin and Trueno are the lights and some other small things, there is no difference in the drivetrain. A simple google search can give you that information

[@ericsson_motorsports]

@lPartyBoy69 That AE86 doesn't look very rebuilt and you could easily take it from the internet. Anyways just Google "AE85", it's not that hard to prove how wrong you are

[@corolla-chan9055]

Just one more note, the Australian "AE86" is called the Toyota "Sprinter". Also, this video was very well done! Somebody finally corrected the misunderstandings!

[@griplimit261]

it does say s13 in the 240sx, RMS13. in Japan the 180sx is RPS13 but there it's still referred to an S13 but technically S13 is the silvia body stile, if the 89-94 240sx came as a coupe with non popup headlights (flush mount) it would say S13. I own a 97 240sx and the firewall plate says it's an S14. the more you know...

[@RaceboyYT]

You sir have the most desirable usdm 240 and I plan on buying one soon any tips on what to look for on a Florida car

[@griplimit261]

Raceboy5512YT I would check the usual spots for a 240SX make sure it doesn't have rust on the strut Towers in the front, rocker panels, and floor boards even though it's in Florida. and I personally would look for one that hasn't been too modified and is mostly there with original parts.

[@RaceboyYT]

This one had a core support replaced because somebody backed into it but I also get a duraflex kit that fits for free

[@RaceboyYT]

But I looked at it and it had no rust from what I could see

[@RaceboyYT]

I ended up buying a 1982 BMW 528e for less so thx anyways maybe I will buy a 240 someday but not today I guess

[@jclar3565]

Excellent. When I bought my 84 GTS coupe new, very few people were doing so, it was a big deal to the few of us who knew what these cars were, and its so cool to have these facts sorted through.

[@hk20000]

S13 says PMS13 right on that plate there....@7:08

[@Progressionmotorsports]

As the Chassis Code. Sits there on it's own. Still not in the VIN. ~Cheers

[@griplimit261]

ProgressionD it doesn't have to be in the VIN to be what it is

[@Progressionmotorsports]

That is exactly my point. I was talking about Mr. Regulars perspective and how ridiculous it is. ~Cheers

[@griplimit261]

Agreed

[@Squishydoodoo]

Another side note about 2nd gen MR2's. Turbo = SW20 NA = SW21 Something to watch out for if someone claims to have an original turbo car.

[@Shuttersound1]

All 86s need love! Great video full of many valid points that needed to be made. :)

[@MakoTheUndead]

3:49 the licence says 'Dakumi' instead of Takumi XD

[@dusterpl6093]

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[@Bananaramaq]

2:55 VIN isn't US only. We have VINs in Australia

[@erik_cruz]

Great video and excellent points. I spent a good part of my childhood in Japan and learned how to drive there. When I was a kid (I'm 40 now) everyone I knew made a distinction between the 86 and the 85 (myself included). But I never really understood why. The chassis was the same. The differences were in the engine and other drivetrain components and interior. Basically all the differences were stuff that could of been unbolted and swapped out. In high school I had an R31 Skyline Passage GT Hardtop with an RB20DET and my dad had a standard R31 Skyline Sedan with the single cam RB20E. But no distinctions were made about those two versions of that chassis. Even though there were clearly structural differences between the hardtop and sedan models. They were both still R31s. So why is the chassis designation different for the AE85 and AE86?

[@xSUPERxDANKxGDP]

Excellent video my friend! You definitely know your stuff! thumbs up!

[@Ka1ashOffdog]

at 7:03 similar misconception that S-Chassis face as well as the 86. RM|S13 is the code for USDM hatchback S13 with KA24 DOHC RH|S13 is UDM hatchback S13 with SOHC M|S13 would be a USDM coupe S13 with a DOHC KA24 etc. S13 is always part of ID number, it's just in the mix with the other option letters. (only bare "S13" chassis code would go to an option-less Silvia coupe with a CA18DE)

[@olivercalland1470]

with the s13, it says "PMS13" on the plate, which refers to the JDM model, the USDM one is "RMS13". so yes, it does say S13, it just had extra code in front of it to indicated where it is from

[@redslate]

I agree with your reasoning in referring to the car by its model (AE86), but your assertion of "inconclusive" is incorrect. The points in question are definitive and factual. "Irrelevant" would better suit the case you're making. The fact that the VIN describes the vehicle as "AE88" is *irrelevant* due to the fact that the production model number clearly labels it as "AE86."

[@Progressionmotorsports]

Indeed! Thanks for pointing this out. There are plenty other points that suggest this. But, many people still believe otherwise just because a well respected figure made a statement that stuck to them. It's hard to convince people who previously didn't know much about these cars and stumbled upon a video that made a bold statement. Then having me come in a couple years later saying differently.

[@penguinmaster7]

it also still uses the ae86 chassis. only the VIN says ae88, but for what reason, i'm unsure.

[@parabellum_1416]

Goggles Tigerkhan Because the US Automotive industry likes to screw with people who appreciate Japanese cars.

[@derekzoolander452]

Goggles Tigerkhan same model different year. Thats why they made the AE86 black edition in 87 or 88 as a farewell to the ae86 chasis

[@VndNvwYvvSvv]

A VIN isn't "confidential". You can read it right through anyone's windshield, and it's illegal in at least some states to obscure this number so police can't read it on a parked vehicle.

[@KappnTTM]

OH LOOK RCR IS FACTUALLY INCORRECT WHAT A SURPRISE! Besides that, nice 86 you got there and thank you for the video.

[@oddshop4542]

Thanks so much for this it has really been needed, hope it gets tons of views! I was even thinking about making a video like this out of frustration.

[@TheAkujiki]

Very educational! I always wondered why my SR5 said AE86 in the VIN after watching the regular car review video lol.

[@cesariojpn]

VINs aren't "Confidential." They are an essential to the history of a car as an identity. It helps no only to identify the car's build history, but also it's driving history with ownership and if it contains defects, insurance issues, or liens. Lemme guess, you covered your AE86 VIN because you know it's either was an "insurance write-off" or it has a sketchy history.

[@97TP]

AyoPinks ! my friend ran into an issue like this.. the vehicle he tried to import from Canada was already registered :'/

[@Progressionmotorsports]

Yes. History of the car and current owner. I don't want to be giving my friend's records and address away on the internet.

[@Ashertheawesome]

and trump won . how does his political views have anything to do with a fucking car.

[@Mr.timecapsules]

Rui Zhang so I'm guessing you were voting Hillary 😂

[@charlesvandergrift3126]

The VIN of any vehicle in a public place is essentially public information since it is right on the dash. I can see covering that VIN as a precautionary measure since many people will be seeing this video but I don't think it is strictly necessary. I think it's a similar deal with people covering their license plates: maybe a hundred people a day or more see my plate so it isn't private at all.

[@janaldrinmallare4443]

well i was gonna say this, I live in the Philippines, so sometimes I saw any original AE86 has a left-handed steering by swapping from the right to the left after importing from Japan so I'm lucky that i see those but the AE86 in the Philippines is an imported car you can allow to import so the steering wheel is the only changes through the AE86

[@dantemcr129]

even the civic EM1 is still called an EK coupe so i guess all 6th gen civics are all EK

[@MikeHammer1]

My brother and I both owned Corolla GTS's. His was a loaded 85 and was stolen from a train station right next to a BMW. Mine was an 86 (both were hatchbacks) and lacked the sunroof, alloy wheels and rear spoiler. Mine was T-boned by a pickup truck after 16 years and 136,000 miles and still ran like new. I can't believe what these cars are selling for now. BAT had one with 220,000 miles in beater condition sell for $22,000 recently, twice the original sales price. Small factoid - the GTS taillights we're also used on the $80,000 Lotus Esprit.

[@banpeinet]

Thanks for clearing this up! I see a very familiar photo at 6:28. I vividly remember shooting that photo: and you know what? That AE86 managed to do 400K and is still on its first paint. The engine needed a rebuild though... I have a question though, that you may be able to help out with: there is a difference in the size of the windshield between Japanese and EUDM models: the JDM is slightly higher. So anyone in the EU ordering a windshield for their JDM AE86 will have a big issue. Since you have access to both USDM and JDM, can you measure and see if there is a difference between those as well?

[@timmmyj]

Here in Australia the AE86 only came out with the 4AC, T50 and S series diff. No VIN, only the frame number and model number both which contain "AE86". The difference worldwide between them all is what they came out in the local market with; whether it's a 3AC mounted to a K50, a 4AC mounted to a T50, a 4AGE with either a T50 or A42DL, S or T series diff, solid or vented front discs, drum or disc rear, the chassis and body are the same.

[@ChaseHoffman]

Thank you so much, I know have a video to send to people that constantly tell me about my AE88 lol. Put this in my favorites!

[@yapwaihan7925]

This is the video that introduced me to Mr.Regular's channel :)

[@RanmaChanAndKunoKun]

I'd rather have the JDM variant, but that's for practicality given I live in the UK where right hand drive is the norm, trying to drive on the left hand side would be a little foreign and unusual to me so I'd rather stick to what I learnt in.

[@justa9uy]

Optional LSD?!? HELL YAH I WANT SOME LSD

[@kylerchristy9821]

Great video, great explanation of the mixup of all the different markets of the 86

[@kuni145]

Just making a statement since we forgot to point this out the other very small difference between my jdm one and you usdm one. The rear corner lights that was a usdm only thing.

[@bishounenpooru]

as someone who did their own sr5 to gta conversion front to back, yes thank you.for clarifying

[@Rrgr5]

Sad that Toyota stop making the Corolla GT series, and Celica too... :(

[@PhoenixsWorldVideos]

+ProgressionD 3:55 what is that magazine called?

[@SidewaysGts]

@7:20 "And heres the culprit.. the MAF sensor" Even worse than that, and a slight correction: USDM Ae86s use AFM sensors in place of MAF sensors. MAF/Mass air flow meters have a heated wire insidie, and then calculate air flow based on how the wire is being cooled due to incoming air. AFM/ Air flow meters (I know, its silly. exact same letters, different configuration), or to be specific here (as there are, of no surprise), a vane air flow meter, basically have a spring loaded door that is flapped-open by the intake of air- the sensor reads the angle at which the door is being opened, and uses that to calculate air flow.

[@TorutheRedFox]

I'm not saying that an AE88 is not an AE86, well, mostly. I only call the non-JDM spec '86es an AE88, to easily distinguish the specs

[@jasonthomas4895]

he actually stated in his review that the car was weaker due to emissions.

[@RedPillDosage]

YES! THANK YOU!! I have a EJ1 and that's what it will always be referred to.

[@militarian9759]

I had a dream 4 years back that I had an 86 parked on my driveway and I have wanted one since. I have only watched initial D 9 months ago making me want it more.

[@joshingwithyahaha]

Either way, these cars are all gold. It sucks to see them slowly leaving but it is what it is.

[@SupraBdub]

I may not have gone so far as you yet, maybe I would, nice video man and nice very nice twiddle response there to someone who may not be the awake and sleep toyoda enthusiasts and drivers as us bro namath!! !!

[@LuigiG145]

Noriyaro's AE85 has an AE86 engine. That's why he just calls it an 86 anyway since the only differences between the 85 and 86 are in the chassis, engine, dampers, and brakes. The body and interior are absolutely identical, so if you were to just swap the engine, brakes, etc. you can convert it into an 86, though I'm sure you already knew that.

[@daveTV]

By the way it's TRUENO, not TURENO (0:36)

[@Tonigr]

I think you get the model code wrong @ 4:28 The AE86 itself tells us A - for A-series engines - E - for the platform (Corolla/Sprinter) - 8 - for the generation - and 6 - for the specific model variation/wheelbase/whatever (this is where Toyota gets inconsistant). Let's compare it to a FJ40 vs FJ45. F - for the F-series gasoline engines - J - for Land Cruiser platform - 4 - again the generation - 0 - short wheelbase/whatever. The 5 at the end of FJ45 stands for long wheelbase (wagon, troop carrier or pick up model).

[@John.strong]

you are correct sir just like its not an fj if its diesel, someone will correct me but its either bj or cj as b or c is the diesel engine not that you will find many of those in merica if that's where your from

[@Tonigr]

Yeah, of course the first letter changes with the engine used. The diesel cruisers are BJ's or HJ's. The c-series diesel engines are used in smaller vehicles such as the lite ace.

[@mikeymaiku]

"snickers" BJ/ HJ

[@prkidd23tc]

Thanks for clearing that up. On almost all the 86 videos I've seen on KZbin, this is the same arguement in the comments section. I hope everyone is paying attention hehe.

[@worldhello1234]

@5:31 Exactly, nitpicking bro. To be fair, he probably meant, it is NOT a AE86 Toyota Sprinter Trueno or one of its direct derivatives like GT-Apex.

[@rookietoprobuildz]

Instant like ! 2:18 that's the kind of reaction I love when driving my FRS (they just have to look)

[@hk20000]

here's a fun tidbit for you guys: the AE88 USDM model has Canadian-manufactured front and rear bumper assemblies. You are fundamentally wrong about the problem with the chassis code naming. You see the last digit is always related to engine configuration. AW11 for a 1.6, and AW10 was a 1.5 - a mysterious creature I have never seen but it's on the JDM catalog up on goo-net for all to see. AE86 and AE85 is called the way they were called because in Japan you either had a 4A-GE by yamaha or a 3A-U by Toyota. the 4AGE puts it at 1.6L catrgory and the 3AU at a 1.5L. Since there is no 3rd variant it's easier to identify the cars that way than going after the SR, GT, GT-APEX name which Japanese people will not remember nor care to remember. Same goes for AE100 and AE102 which we got both versions in North America you have a 1.6 and a 1.8 variant. how about this: AE85 = anything with the 1.5L and AE86 = anything with a 1.6L since North American SR5 came with a unique 4A-C it's still an AE86. However, since there is then no real way to tell an AE86 GTS from an AE86 SR5 why don't we just call the SR5 AE85 so that we can all sleep easy? If you don't want to you can call either one AE86 I guess since it's the same idea with Honda DC2.... LS or Type R are all DC2 if it's a 2 door hatchback bodystyle..... It just happens that Toyotas tend to have different chassis code for different engine displacements and that's what it is.

[@Progressionmotorsports]

My conclusion is that regardless of the models. We call them all AE86 as a universal nickname to refer to this generation corolla. It's as simple as that. I don't want people fussing over the different models of practically the same car.

[@hk20000]

It's not a big fuss and tbh no one is going to call the Corolla GT-S an AE88 anyway. Mr R himself made it a point in his more recent EF hatch video in that the North American version isn't even a EF to brgin with. We still call them EF hatch because people like to call things what's convenient for them for distinguishing one thing for another. As long as you know what EF hatch is I don't need to tell you it's actually not what it is. (For that matter, the beloved 96-2000 body style Civic Si was never a EK coupe either, but that's what people will call it forever) It's just a long and convoluted video to argue about a non-argument.

[@Tool0GT92]

Mr. Regular does a combination of quick research and taking the owners words for facts, so his stuff gets mixed up. He said the SVO mustang was made in the 90s.

[@FANTAZ3RO]

Perfect music choice in the beginning :)

[@camcuber]

Are the bumpers painted black on an Initial D replica or are they just left as plastic?

[@IntegraDIY]

This is pretty old news that the ae88 is the gt-s and the ae86 is the sr-5. To me.. The ae88 is the gts and the ae86 is the base model, completely different trim level.

[@turbotom20g]

I know actually what your talking about, here is a example: in the DSM (Diamond Star Motors) world that I'm apart of, mitsubishi joint venture with Chrysler and made cousins of the same car like the Eagle Talon, Plymouth Laser and of course Mitsubishi Eclipse. Now there was the non turbo versions, like the SOHC 1.8 4g37 and DOHC 2.0 4g63. Even though they were made in the same plant, us turbo 4g63 guys won't call them DSMs just because it's not a turbo 4g63. Same goes for 95-99 when they used dodge engines for the non turbo models, we won't consider them DSMs but........technically they can because the chassis is a DSM built. It's not that we aren't car enthusiast, but if your used to seeing a car of what you drive and others call it the same you feel apart of that group to feel like you have a special bond or special build "real deal" Brand type, you automatically call it that regardless of actual facts. Doesn't make a car guy not be a enthusiast, that what they used to call those types of cars, doesn't make them a bad person. I catch myself do the same it, it's just second nature to car guys, it is what it is.

[@clueless3398]

When Mr. R says Not a "real 86" I think he is referring to the car not being the one from the anime. which would not be wrong.

[@anonharingenamn]

There are so many differences between the widely sold "AE86"'s. Drum/Disc brakes, different diffs etc. Not just the 10bhp power difference.

[@GTRking1000]

That goes same with the jza80 supras too. US version ended at 98 with supra 2jz-gte "turbo" badge or without that badge with 6 and 4 speed or supra 2jz-ge na with 4 speed while worldwide ended in 2002. Every supra has the Targa top or hard top. JDM have the OEM skirt and rear spats/front active spoiler lip. There's the rz 2jz-gte with auto or manual, rz-s 2jz-gte vvti with semi auto added/bigger disc brake rotor/bigger LSD, sz-r 2jz-ge with manual 6 speed, 5 speed, or auto 4 spee......you know where this is going. Like he said, it's a thing with Toyota xD.

[@5speedfatty]

im looking for one of these cars. and what you are saying here makes me feel better man

[@mrbryanperson]

86 following in Ireland is still pretty big despite most decent examples selling for over 10,000 euros

[@SlideSocietyDrifting]

MANIFOLD ABSOLUTE PRESSURE

[@John.strong]

i was just about to comment this anyone with knowledge to use google could figure this out

[@Progressionmotorsports]

Thanks. It's been noted. I've heard it being said both ways (especially when comparing the two sensors). But it seems people prefer this abbreviation better. Cheers~

[@markae86uk]

nice video. I just wanted to point out that a VIN number is not just a US thing. We use them in the UK and Europe.

[@isher9035]

It's the same way with Honda. The chassis numbers vary by country they're exported to. Also, until the 2000s, engines were detuned for USDM export for emissions concerns and fuel concerns. USDM Integra Type Rs make less power than JDM because of lower compression. At the end of the day, the body and overall chassis is still the same. The only real difference is the hardware attached. It's not like the Honda City Turbo, where the chassis for the hard top turbo is not the same as a regular City, but actually a Cabriolet with a hard roof.

[@JohnDoe-ru5qv]

4:45 i could look at that shot all day. Pure Toyota goodness

[@JonathanPalenik]

awesome vid man super useful info

[@adoyaben]

1:46 wow panda truenos look naked without the "Fujiwara Tofu Shop"

[@ericsson_motorsports]

His car isn't even a panda Trueno, the car to the right has the panda paint job and the tofu shop sticker.

[@chino1603]

The worst sacrilege one can commit is putting any Nissan motor in an AE86 even if it's just a USDM SR-5

[@SCREAMILLUSION]

You know a VIN is used in most countries not just the US right? To make sure a car matches up to it's paper work etc. Hence why chop shops will file them off/cut them off/out. When chopping up a car for parts.

[@Ebergeil]

Love that intro with the super eurobeat tune :D

[@BlackAria1974]

VIN number is also used in Canada.

[@KamiKitsuneVA]

I wish there was more love for the next gen Trueno, the AE92. It may be FWD, but it's still so much fun to drive. Although the only problem is that they are rare, even in Japan, making it hard to find parts for. Especially when it comes to the JDM Trueno front bumper, which are almost impossible to find :(

[@darcgarage9716]

it said s13 right under the word japan on the plack but i couldnt see if that was part of the vin or not but it was there other than that i like your video man keep up the good work

[@weebcar7379]

Wasn't there an AW11 MR2 that had the same sort of engine as the AE85? I think it was called an AW10.

[@jimmyft4339]

The true is that trueno 86 has nothing special, and initial D wanted to show that the real power wasn´t in the car but in the driver, now there is this people trying to make something big from something that is actually not.

[@Tunerdude94]

So what I can gather from this video is... the VIN is irrelevant. And all AE86's can be referred as such. I noticed this in my AE92's VIN. It reads, "AE98" but the model is still AE92. Also is there a way to convert from a MAF to a MAP setup? Would that even be necessary?

[@beefcakemonsta]

TBH that kind of discrimination between JDM and USDM toyota's has been happening way before the corolla's. A good example would be the USDM and JDM TA22 Celicas. different trims, engine and exterior trim (ie bumpers, grills and lights). It all has to do with the regulation that US makes on imported cars so that domestic cars are more desirable, if they don't pass the standards they won't be given any approval of selling it. It's not also japan that is affected, EU cars are also slung along with the US standards, one great example was the FIAT 124 spyder, to pass US standards, they have to increase the ride height, put hideous overriding bumpers.

[@ae86fiend]

It is not a MAF sensor. It is a AFM. It does not measure air mass, it measures air flow. It has a flapper, not a hot wire.

[@alexwillis7980]

The intro was excellent, take a like!

[@Riley180sx]

We have vin's in Australia as well:)

[@skoiloine5809]

While this is true, you can't deny how convenient it is to say. The 86 and 88 designations are able to better demonstrate the connection between the cars, as well as implying how similar but different they are. This is in contrast to saying Trueno GT-Apex AE86 and Corolla GT-S, which are very different designations. The GT-S is very, *very, VERY* similar to the Trueno AE86, but the minute power difference (the car had to be *built differently* for it), as well as being LHD, (not to mention the big 'GT-S Twin Cam 16' lettering on the side) are differences nonetheless. It may not be a huge difference, but it separates the two. You can slap the ɛ̃fini badge on a USDM Mazda RX-7 FD3S, but it doesn't make it an ɛ̃fini. And you can slap a Trueno badge on a GT-S, but it still isn't the real deal. Is it closer to the AE86 model than the SR5? Yes, definitely. But that's why you call it an SR5, and those small differences, but huge similarities between the GT-S and the Trueno AE86 *earn* it the name of AE88. Also AE86 being the JDM and AE88 being the USDM is so engrained in people's minds they know exactly what you're talking about when you say it.

[@ev0se7en]

Great, now do one on the USDM integra. At least you can make Integra GS-R owners feel as if their cars are as special as the authentic JDM Type-r's.

[@thunderroy24]

"it's everything you say to do" Confirmed! this car is the future.

[@Rogers1977]

I now know why we use chassis codes to identify a car: there are wayyyy too many little differences to name that it would be tiring. Especially in Japan, they have way too many sub-models.

[@JakeG59]

My neighbor had a panda ae86 (in Ireland) some Machine that was for the drifting shame they're slamming down on cars older than 2003 making it impossible to insure them

[@rotaryhill4826]

A lot of people called it a ae86 because it's a simular body type and it's the same car but although it has different looks, different name tag, and different hard drive

[@SidewaysGts]

"A lot of people called it a ae86 because it's..." A lot of people call it an Ae86 because its an Ae86?

[@datto240z]

not a MAF... its a AFM. Air flow meter.

[@deadman-xe7rg]

what that song name from 0:14 i know it was on my initial D dvd i like it

[@Progressionmotorsports]

Music in description.

[@deadman-xe7rg]

ahh thank you ^_^

[@P7777-u7r]

I don’t think the VIN is a US only thing I can’t speak for the other provinces but I know to register and insure vehicles in BC you need a VIN even if the vehicle didn’t come with one because it’s for example imported from Japan or a super vintage car you have to take proof of ownership in to ICBC and they issue a VIN for it

[@punaboy12]

*Subscribed * I like to learn more! what is the difference in racing of gear ratio between modern corrola and previous corrola to that of which it's performance on track and street racing. that being in Hawaii as there are roller coaster hills which would have thee advantage a RWD or FWD?

[@paulinpelivideot2327]

From the Regular Car Reviews video I understood it in the way that there is very little difference between the JDM and USDM AE86, but guess that's not what he meant.

[@zbrutalis]

vin isnt us only we have them in australia and our vin numbers start with ae86 despite only getting your equiv to a sr5

[@yanvigneault6939]

I remember on my old one the gts in Canada not sure if the same in the use nut there is a place where it's actually mark on the firewall ?😢it's been a while I miss that car so much

[@nlpnt]

One problem you didn't mention is that Toyota used the Corolla nameplate and AE8x chassis codes on a *completely different car*; the AE82 Corolla DX and LE four-door sedan and five-door hatchback. Throw in Chevy Novas which had GM VINs and the Corolla FX which arrived late and overlapped the E90 and...aargh.

[@TheSlendermang]

Recommendation, please apply a noise reducer or just do the voice over after. It's hard to hear sometimes.