The TRUTH Behind 10 CS Per Minute - League of Legends

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[@skillcapped]

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[@joshuacox534]

League of Legends has rigged matchmaking. Look up "Rise of the Bots" by ivan ramler and choong-soo Lee. then look up EOMM matchmaking. Pokemon Unite (owned by Tencent) also has rigged matchmaking

[@VieneLea]

I actually tried to get the 10 CS per minute once and did it really easily. The ADC I supported was not impressed, though.

[@ivomiguel71]

you're not supposed to farm as a support ! you silly goose !

[@ThinkingRepublic]

@@ivomiguel71

[@navjotsingh2251]

​​well, I have relic shield so I can help them farm faster and share gold. Unless they're freezing waves then I won't push too quickly, but I'll help with waves. And if adc backs but I stay I'll take some minions or if they die I'll take some minions. There nothing wrong with a support getting some farm to help get items quicker. If an adc is so butthurt with a support getting a small amount of minions, then they really need to grow up.

[@CHECKERpatchhIppO]

2 sentence horror story lmao

[@emilieanneverhaegen]

I once had an Akali support who constantly tried to take my farm. I tried to compete with her for the farm and got the best cs I ever had at that point xD

[@SinisteaSado]

Hearing Ez complain about wanting to be better and being upset he is told to farm better was basically a league chat turned into a script

[@ruschev2]

Bruh lmao. I remember a while back people would always say the narrator sounds like ezreal turns out it's actually his VA.

[@SinisteaSado]

@@ruschev2 yeah, he does good work too, iconic voice, probably should be in even more things.

[@bappo795]

HOW HAVE I NOT NOTICED THIS UNTIL NOW

[@leonardoospino3497]

I do get the fear of leaving your teammates When I was gold at the start of the season, I could not leave my team alone 2 minutes without they team fighting with numbers disadvantage for no reason. Then in Diamond, my team pings me to go farm side lane because they are social distancing while there are no objectives on the map, but I got traumatized by my suicidal gold teammates and still go to mid lane for no reason from time to time. Also in gold people tent to go afk if you don't go to die with them to a obviously bad fight.

[@drectanbns266]

Thats the problem all this only really works for higher elo. In low elo your never going to get to farm because someone's GOING to get caught and give the enemy a free push so you either have to back and give up your side push or lose your inhibator.

[@MrFrednoob]

Yup this guide is clearly done by someone not spending enough time in Gold/plat elo because they rush through it or someone who is good enough to solo carry consistently regardless of the team. But all the time I notice "Damn my cs sucks i better go bot or top and farm there is no objective up anyway" 2 or 3 ppl get killed and now we're getting pushed in

[@MrFrednoob]

Oh and obviously it's my fault they lost and died there because I wasn't with them and then they also just tilt and play worse. That's actually what I am afraid of in lower elo but not what they said in the video

[@brubie7584]

@@MrFrednoob The people that make these guys spend extensive time coaching low elo players and spectating. Sure your team will randomly int 4v5 sometimes, but that doesn't mean grouping as 5 is better, since then there's still a good chance either some splitpusher takes your whole base or you int a teamfight/towerdive stupidly. (or you just fail at getting anything meaningful done). Sure if your playing a tank, pushing side waves is less important since you don't really get anything if your teammate loses a fight since you can't take towers, and you definitely shouldn't be farming your jungle camps as team pushes as 4.

[@jpj7087]

@@MrFrednoob who cares about the mistakes of others. the guide if for YOU to get better thats what low elo dont understand. the video even talked about that, you are scared that your team will die so you group with them. just dont, if they die unlucky but you made the right decision side laning

[@MrDrekki]

the reason cs are important ? because it's the main variable of a multi variable game that you have full control over... the more control you have over a set of variable the more consistent you get, the more consistent you get the better you become at understanding more and more variable, therefore you climb because your understanding and average game knowledge and mecanics will progress as a result, everything in league is a math problem, gold, exp, mana, powerspike, item spikes, armor magic resist, penetration, lethality, how many tower hits you can take on this dive, how much second does it take you to move from here to here etc... EVERYTHING, every decision is math based, people say farming, cause it's the easiest of all those math variables to understand and the easiest concept to grasp : killing minions good, dying bad. it's harder to explain to someone why giving away a dragon can be a viable strat to grab more platings, an herald and pressure on a tower, when the gold value of the objective and the buff of the dragon soul is not even a concept they grasp or fully understand, like, xp has value, stats have value, the scaling of a champion is the %multiplier effectiveness of those stats or the ease at which they apply it, Multi-variable systems are insanely complex, and when you realise that 80% of players don't even understand how armor and magic resist works, what's the point giving any other advices... just make it palatable, gold good, the more gold the better.

[@Kamishi845]

It's not just that cs'ing is the most consistent way of getting gold, but it's because being able to get consistent gold is exactly what enables a player to get access to a lot of the stuff you mentioned e.g. more items, more xp etc. To say it's purely a maths problem is actually a bit too simplistic I think, because while you make those comparisons in a vacuum, compared to chess, League consists of 10 players with their own ideas and undersrstanding of the game and champion skills, that makes each game unique in a way games in chess just aren't. So what on paper if you were to look at the maths alone should be a winnable fight, suddenly isn't because of player agency. That's where individual strategies begin to matter because is it better to give dragon even if you being there could win that fight or do you stay top to take plates and towers because the latter doesn't rely on your team mates screwing up? Yet at the same time if you funnel all gold into yourself you better be able to solo carry it, or you let your team deal with stuff they can't deal with because you took all the gold and so on.

[@witcherpie]

Ye if youre mathetician you can go challenger good point, lmai

[@joshuacox534]

League of Legends has rigged matchmaking. Look up "Rise of the Bots" by ivan ramler and choong-soo Lee. then look up EOMM matchmaking. Pokemon Unite (owned by Tencent) also has rigged matchmaking

[@karlrose405]

@@joshuacox534 While there might be some rigged matchmaking, everyone who deserves challenger will get challenger with enough games played, the game is that simple, all excuses to not climb are just straight up based on copium and delusion : )

[@joshuacox534]

@@karlrose405 what you actually just said: "there might be unfair processes, but the people who are registered streamers, who are associated with riot games and definitely giving them free advertising will totally be put in the place they subjectively deserve" when you speak in terms of "deserve", you've dropped objectivity and are just resorting to personal judgement. project harder

[@douwemusic]

Just run this script: 1. Watch map 2. If safe: catch/push side 3. If unsafe/unclear + wave coming back: hover in own jgl, halfway towards midlane 4. If unsafe/unclear + wave far away: group 5. Loop ad infinitum

[@ryanpower1291]

I think the main reason people fixate on the 10 cs per minute is because it's a "objective" way to track your performance. Whereas what you did during a team fight can't be summed up on a number

[@zox3497]

very well said

[@ryanpower1291]

@HumanBeing bar the extremes (kill percentage 5 percent) yes it actually is. Obviously win rateis important but you can win a match and play terrible and lose a match and play well. I never said kda mattered because of course you can get a quad kill and then lose immediately to a split pushing yorick. You're kinda throwing the baby out with the bath water with extreme examples and like I said it's really hard to track someone's performance solely based on a Stat. I will say win rate on the high elo is a good Stat to track, but 51 percent win rate in bronze really doesn't mean anything. And the main reason I mention all of this is because of the stigma behind cs per minute. If you give generic LoL advice its probably safe to advise people to increase their cs per minute because it will likely lead to more wins especially in the low ranks. Not perfect but it is what it is, and at least you can look at it after the game and see where you could do better

[@RiverNunu]

@HumanBeing If you have 10% kill participation and/or 5% damage share, you're not getting 10 cs/m, it's as simple as that.

[@mathematiciantim3439]

@HumanBeing no they aren’t, unless you’re playing hundreds of games on a champ every season, win rate on a champ isn’t that great of a metric.

[@Sarubotai]

Alot of people dont realize that YOUR teammates are more likely to deny you cs rather than enemy. If you want high numbers you have compete with both your teammates and enemies alike. Part of the reason why League is toxic by design

[@TheSilvantor]

Low elo has this scenario: your team is winning and destroys first 3 towers early. Cs is now much harder to access. It's low elo so your team can't keep their lead, your team throws or can't close out the game. Now enemy team has more cs and more gold and you lose.

[@YukkaRinnn]

Csing honestly is not hard when u realise u dont need to fight every 30 seconds on the map even as a Sett main whos a champ who at most averages 5-6 cs per minute I get like 7.5-8.5 cs per minute on him (with no hydra) and still have like 60 percent kill participation u just have to learn how to sidelane and pick the most important fights

[@natelarson1273]

And not miss 3 waves because you are pushed under tower and tried to match a roam or contest drag while your jungle is dead

[@railx2005]

what are you talking about. also a sett player and imo hes quite easy to farm on, yes pushing without hydra is hard but last hitting is pretty easy

[@YukkaRinnn]

@@railx2005 I personally think csing with sett is weird cuz his passive has a feel to it and its very easy to miss last hits with him cuz of that and personally i find it easier to cs with darius/morde/aatrox than sett honestly

[@railx2005]

@@YukkaRinnn u just gotta follow the pattern, left right left right, its only hard when you mess up the rhythm

[@monnomestletien]

* laughs (but really cries) in Shen main *

[@Aynshtaynn]

My problem with low cs average as an adc main isn't about me not going into a lane to push it. It is about every other person has the same idea, including support. Toplaner splitpushes top, midlaner fixes mid or bot wave, and jungler goes to whatever lane that's available when there is no jungle camp to clear. When there are camps to clear, they go into jungle, which frees a lane right? No. Support goes to clean it instead. And with mage supports being so popular these days I can't catch the wave before they end up clearing it.

[@UncleForHire]

Do you ping what you wanna take? Sometimes I go take farm to catch up in gold and xp if I see its going to waste. If my adc sees me reach for farm top lane and stays mid that isn't my fault, to me it looks like he's wasn't even going for it at all.

[@zagloba1987]

My cs problem was fixed by Baus. He was the first man that made me understand that a 1-6 sion can have 2 full items finished while 6-1 enemy struggles to get first. I average around 270 cs on sion right now and my full build is finished around 34th minute (personal record was 23 min) on average. The change in the thought process made my other champions much more consistent too. This man changed the game for me and I am addicted for 12 years now.

[@devidaestra157]

is there a video of it?

[@zagloba1987]

@@devidaestra157 baus solo guide is the recent vid and its awsome. But you get his thinking while watching him play too

[@maxdj8170]

same baus helped me alot

[@nikusha432]

I learned csing on this channel and everything else i was stuck in s4 and this channel helped me to improve to plat

[@SmickyD]

And you've been power feeding top laners and jg ever since... Just because you get gold in your lane doesn't mean that strat is any good at your elo. Even at the highest ranks you have to know when and why you're dying. Even baus over feeds jg and top laners all the time. He's been perma banned 2 times now because of this strat. Use with caution because you will get flamed and people will afk on your team.

[@theodeleuu865]

My man Shok making an appearance wasn't something I was expecting lol.

[@air9227]

So i was a p3-p2 qiyana main a week ago averaging about 8 cs/min, realized that playing for farm on a champ like qiyana doesnt win games and climbed to d4 in 3 days with literally just like 17 games while averaging 6-7 cs/min. only realized this when i was looking at stats and noticed that avg qiyana player in challenger has 5-6 cs/min

[@LOUDKiDx]

and then again yamato, one of -if not- the best assassin player on EUW says consistency, tp and good cs is the most important about current state of assassins

[@air9227]

@@LOUDKiDx yea like really high elo probably because most people know how to not die in lane vs assasins so hard to get leads so its better to be atleast even in gold every game

[@air9227]

@@LOUDKiDx but when i know that i can get leads in my games by solokilling people almost every game and people dont respect roams as much i can get away with playing more fiesta-like with early setups and ignite

[@air9227]

@@LOUDKiDx and a lot of high elo assasin players still go ignite and focus on making plays early rather than just cs

[@LOUDKiDx]

@@air9227 i mean thats a fair point, but in the end you're creating a bad habit which will stop working at some point :l

[@PedroAce]

What should the farm goal for junglers be, for both good and bad farmers?

[@hiruharii]

10 cspm is something I accidentally get when I crush laners

[@boomknight1015]

I miss back in the day with gold Seals. They was broken because in like roughly every 10 mins of game, you got kill worth of gold. Even when you are even, you win. Even now, free boots is the only real choice on any role or char. Also the bonus gold on kill is good but not as good because often times you get close to 300 near the 20 min mark when everyone is tunneling mid and out of the side lanes and doesn't really help split pushers all that much. Boots lets you first item spike way faster

[@nikusha432]

Chatgpt part made me laugh 😂

[@BigHatSupremacist]

The difference between galeforce, for example, and the components is easily enough to be the difference between winning and losing a fight. If you're getting 6 cs/min compared to their 10 cs per minute, assuming no kills or assists, and the 20 average gold per cs in the video, the 10 cs per minute guy gets myhtic at around 12:30, you get it at aroundd 16:00. 3 and a half minutes later. That is easily enough time for a drake or herald fight to happen where they have mythic and you have a bf sword and zeal. Winning that teamfight snowballs the lead and can easily be enough to result in the game another 10 or 20 minutes down the line. Particularly if we're talking about first item, the difference between the completed item and components is particularly large. Ironically the video almost acknowledges this by highlighting the importance of catching sidie waves, but misses that last step of why you want to catch side waves. It is to get gold, and similarly as important, solo exp. They solo highlight that it's pressure, but majority of the time, neutral objectives are down, thus the primary reason is for the resources.

[@nathanclarke7162]

Something that I think is interesting too is that it is waaaay easier to farm the lower the elo you are in, I'm plat in solo/duo but I play ranked flex with my friends sometimes where the game is high bronze low silver, and I managed 11.2 cs/m in a game where it didn't even feel like I was doing anything special. I think this comes down to whether or not your laner is punishing your cs in lane, and after lane how strong you are and therefore how aggressively you are able to steal enemy jungle camps. Also dying has a massively negative effect on your cs/m and it's much easier to not die in low elo.

[@JeiJohnson]

I average 210 CS a game, but that equates to only 6.9 CS a minute. I have a problem farming after a full build and games tend to take too long when I'm stalling for my teammates to catch up. Should I stop stalling for victories after a full build and just continue farming for gold I can't spend? Just curious if that'll bring up my win rate, or if I'm just destined to not achieve the objective 10 CS/M if I'm incapable of ending games early on my own against a full enemy team?

[@ramanmonkey]

At that point its above wave management to get the enemy to move where you want them to

[@imienazwisko5630]

0:28 he sounds so done😂😂😂

[@karasutsuki1733]

5:55 If im the Tryn here and I take a golden opportunity for an insane split, my team WILL fight the 4v5 xD Its not that they get caught or anything, it feels like theyre actively seeking to fight

[@pmgmsd]

100%. And they'll flame you afterward, too. Even if you try to explain it, they'll insist you're in the wrong.

[@karasutsuki1733]

@@pmgmsd 💯

[@pmgmsd]

@@karasutsuki1733 kindred spirits, you and I...

[@brubie7584]

As tryn you can turbo push waves and take a tower or 2 while your team is dying oftentimes.

[@PracticalPotato]

Your job is to tell them not to fight and do the best you can. You just have to weigh your options: How much does your chances of winning go up if you split compared to if you stay with your team? How likely is it that your team will get caught or go for a bad fight? If I split and they take a bad fight, can I still get value out of my split? If I stay and we fight 5v5, can I do anything?

[@lnaesthetic7739]

The vlad play at 7:20 was wild

[@davguev]

What group does Kayle belong to? Until level 6 she usually has to give up a lot of CS, and until level 11 her wave clear is bad, but after that she becomes a farming machine.

[@alexisdipoalo9443]

The amount of things holding me bsck is anything not related to laning and last hitting 😂 so not just csing

[@lucanrowley3210]

Even though it's impossible for me to improve I still enjoy watching the videos

[@brettrhyno255]

its not impossible at all.

[@andrewchen7823]

does this concept still apply to junglers?

[@ericwu4166]

I mainly play nunu and I average around 5 - 5.5 cs per min, but I also average around 60-70% kp. Is that good or should it be higher?

[@jasonchangdalekrule]

If you're playing tank nunu, that's not really an issue, provided you're using the time to repeat gank. Tank nunu is arguably one of the least gold reliant junglers in the game, and one of the best early gankers. If there's downtime, you still need to farm though.

[@Frankie_He]

Skill Cap said that basically evey adc is good at getting minions and farming, is Ashe one of them? She only has w that is aoe and it’s kinda high cooldown so idk if Ashe would be a good farmer or not

[@kandrenai]

I get like 3 or 4 cs pers minute and its really bad. I definitely need to work on my last hits.

[@vincentvindevogel2368]

What's the definition of 'actively' using your improvement platform?

[@CoffeeMonster01]

"What if my team dies if i leave them alone" -me while sidelaning as galio😂😂

[@hey_therexd]

I actually started focusing more on farm after a game where i ulted and did like no dmg..one game i reached 9?1cs per mon!(silver)

[@PachecoShort]

Thanks for the video, Ezreal.

[@mooseroom]

i'm an irelia main and getting my cs up to 9-10/min was a big reason for me hitting d4 this season. never played too much ranked prior to this so no idea what rank i was before

[@Voisira]

The thing about Irelia is once you get bork farming is a joke, I can jump on fiora or aatrox and get 6-8 cs per min every game but Irelia is easy 9/10 which is why she is so strong for me personally.

[@mooseroom]

@@Voisira yup farming is just so much easier on her that you can be ahead of the curve most games (provided you aren't running it or getting perma dove)

[@flashdice411]

Farm in Gold elo as adc is making the dscision between beeing in the TF because your team has rarely ever the ability to wait OR to hope that the Jungle and the Toplane understand that as long as they are not playing some kind Of Carry champion . The Farm from min 14 on is yours, and that of the midlaner.

[@killer.aviles9001]

I loved so much that intro.

[@sargischshmarityan9657]

I am a Pantheon mid main, and the helping teammates part makes my situation more confusing, they ALL rely on my R (too much, waaay to much), but they don't care about my waves and stuff (yet they blame me for low cs while forcing fights). And if I don't R and die with them my team will run it down. What are my options as a Pantheon, Panth can't solo carry or play 1v9, maximum 1v3 and that only if you're fed and play good on him. My champ needs a team, just some bodies to help him. Should I change my main champion to a mage or a 1v9 hypercarry, or should I change something in my playstyle. Btw I'm silver 4, playing for 10 months and I really need to win games, otherwise I'm gonna go back to bronze bots. P.S. My lane phase is okay (for a silver player) I never feed when I play Panth, so it's about how to work with the team and being able to push my advantages. There are some games that I feel like I'm disabled, no roam opportunities, a very safe playing opponent and just 0 gank or even dive potential on my team.

[@AntiroNL]

4:27 there are also a ton of situations where you have 0 counterplay

[@vladpolodiuc5307]

What about Cs on a junglers ? Like Vi?

[@haterreaction6368]

I’m a main support and my question 🙋‍♂️ is what is farming? When you say minions you mean champions??

[@DanteCrowlley]

I noticed my normal games are starting to feel in with plat, diamond n master players, I'm unranked tho

[@EnigmaChess]

Then you're smurfing because your mmr is diamond lvl

[@vegardkjrberg1929]

@@EnigmaChess nah normal games matchmaking is all over the fucking place. 0 fucking balance on matchmaking in norms and flex

[@coffee0093]

Riot makes normals have terrible matchmaking so you get fed up and start grinding ranked

[@Ourspark34]

Bruh even Chat Gpt said to farm more lmao XD

[@Personwithquestions]

I was the katarina you showed the match history with 😂 ngl Im learning her rn and trying different things on her, but this vid did help. Did we play a match?

[@hangman4011]

The CS comments always make me laugh because you have to know when to trade CS for other things. I can average 8.5, but then lose because of objective play. Or alternatively I've gotten down to 5, but stomped them hard enough to make them surrender. The catch all "just raise your CS/min" is kind of a cop out.

[@tonysmith9905]

It's the easiest thing to look at aside from builds without going into in depth vod reviews of your games. But yeah, it's certainly not as important as they make it out to be.

[@Codermiguel]

Big difference between pro play and solo queue. In solo queue, your best bet is to feed yourself instead of betting on having good synergy with a team you've never played with before.

[@SwirlyTurtle]

That intro is great tho:D

[@greatgatorgaming6024]

Ezreal telling is that we have bad cs because of our macro. Me having bad cs because I can’t last hit for shit 😔.

[@Kinta8888]

its scary how chat gtp knows what "league" is. no more words needed.

[@demihau]

i have an amazing wave clear playing Viktor after upgrading E, but to upgrade i need to kill 100 minions which i hate to last hit 😭😭😭 so i just kill champs. ez solution

[@neverendingparty2060]

What if I am a farming support?

[@Justicetyga]

I hate how CS dictates everything I will intentionally miss cs so the wave pushes I missed the gold but not the exp

[@emilieanneverhaegen]

I'm an adc in Bronze and I average 6 cs/min. I feel that's already pretty good for my elo? Definitely have some other issues in my play tho xD

[@MikeSion]

"I feel safe here" proceeds to get massacred by a gank while commentator talks about confidence 😂

[@etlutor2739]

honestly its crazy how i can get 10-14 per minute not even thinking about it but if i think about it im too busy trolling

[@RandomMusik]

1:20 until Diamond just CS to win works

[@alexnewsome5111]

I mean you can't just CS to win, you have to take objectives. ;) but the general idea, yea. Most gold and plat players stop farming when they get ahead or they stop trying to farm when they get behind, which leads to a large deficit.

[@darkumineru1681]

TL:DR u just need to be able to hit every farm u are able to so unless u get something worth more then cs u need to get the cs

[@ahzobeats]

PLEASE tell me HOW TF is your content SO AMAZING?????? please even a one word awnser is enough

[@ahzobeats]

i get it, there‘s probably a team behind it, but still HOW????😂

[@austinhampton7999]

I want to see solo when faker cs. I’m sure it’s way higher than LCK faker cs

[@Suckitupthrift]

Where is kingstixs at when you need him

[@niklaskupsch5363]

What if I get 15-17 Cs/Min? Is it bad, because that might mean, that your team generally missed some CS? I had this a few games, where I absolutely stomped my lane and no one could ever stop me.

[@void2920]

If you are a demon carry champion (all ADCs, windshitters, irelia and generally any hypercarry) It's good since you can just 1v5

[@bjoiel]

It should be literally impossible to get 15-17 cs per minute

[@niklaskupsch5363]

@@bjoiel i literally got it like 3 times, one time in draft and twice in ranked

[@user-qr7dl9ny8w]

before i used to see the video in the website now i should sign in and pay money for see the course ????????????

[@MrKillApple]

Me trying to get 10cs/min on Janna support:

[@bernhardthusholt3565]

very well edited.

[@ChimkinSendwich]

My man Shok got featured!!

[@Stormzy2heaven]

SHOK GANG SHOK GANG

[@DeltaRed12]

Im not great but Ive considered 100cs at 15 min to be a good goal to go for.

[@calebmckoy8937]

thats pretty low tbh

[@ArrakeenHD]

Add 20 and take my money

[@4TwEnti-]

Actually I have insanly good cs score! Almost everytime over the 10cs per min mark. But im Support

[@firstnamelastname754]

Nah that ChatGPT one was overboard lmfao 😂😂😂

[@chriswilliamson9993]

You left out the main reason why coaches tell players to improve cs - it's easy! A coach is paid to point out areas of their client's games that could be improved. Almost every low elo player isn't great at csing, so all a coach needs to do is look at their opgg, see low cs numbers, tell them to improve cs and job done - easy money. The coach can give this advice without doing any of the hard stuff - like analyzing games, or knowing detailed information about the champion being played. So why wouldn't a lot of coaches give the easy money advice? Of course, any decent coach would offer more detailed reviews as well, but from a coaches point of view "get more cs" is a baseline, it lets them think they've done something positive before they've even looked at the game, and gives them something to fall back on if they struggle to find other obvious deficiencies.

[@Buaam]

the farming mentality ruins alot of my games though.. we could be fighting for soul but trynda takes mid wave instead of joining fight.. i hate it

[@MostWantedWannaBE]

10cs/min is an early/mid game breakpoint of power if you maintain high cs/min throughout the early portions of the game then you are guaranteed to be impactful in the game and not rely on coin flipping your teams after 20 minutes your cs will usually fall below 10/min because you are fighting way more than farming it's only natural thats why faker doesn't average 10/min BUT go watch fakers vods and he will be more often than not 9-10/min up to min20 go watch baus he goes 0/10 and he is stronger than his 10/0 opponent cs/min is your 1 and only easy path to high elo going from 6/min to 7/min is going from gold 1 to diamond 4 it's that powerful go to 10/min and the game will decide that you are smurfing and inflate your elo like crazy now there are characters with which keeping 10/min is extremely difficult like shen for example but nobody demands from shen to be 10/min but with jinx it's extremely easy and you should be prioritizing your wave always before trading it's not bs and there are no easy ways of figuring out how to improve on top of the fact that once you start climbing people will punish you harder and zone you from cs more often making you go back to 6 right after you figured how to be at 7 the single best tip to increasing your cs averages is to stop playing too many characters focus on few and figure out your breakpoints in time and items to clearing the wave easily this will ensure that the minions that you are not being contested on you don't miss

[@MB-gd1yy]

If only low elo ppl understood setting up waves before objectives...

[@1234enzor]

The biggest thing is the bots in the games and riot not doing anything about it, 0/20/0 and no cs at the end of the game should be a clear indicator of a bot when it is all games, how can you improve your gameplay if you other solo laner is 0/20/0 and your good laning only nettet you 5/2/7 and 150 cs at 20 mins?

[@IHunter2k]

I average 9 cs per game and gold 1

[@jonashinnekens5847]

I’m maining fiddle so i can’t really play like this

[@aceabenroth2245]

TLDR: you aren't bad at the game because you have low CS, you have low CS because you are bad at the game.

[@makinbalan]

The AI basically just said, git gud. lol!

[@sergioramirez978]

7.1 is my average never have I gotten close to 8 never 10

[@phillipcoleman6267]

Top notch intro

[@AlbertStone92]

Going side lane on soloQ lanes means 4ppl will gank you and your team will not use that as an advantage to push a tower or objective, and the fact people are more interested in kills, than farming, yes you will lose to that team with poor CS but they keep chasing kills and winning the game by force.

[@tonysmith9905]

I feel this so badly. Toplane main here, Renekton otp. I constantly win lane, usually can outplay ganks. I crush lanes often and by mid game I'll have 3-5 ppl coming to gank me. Pisses me off so fucking much that my team thinks its a good idea to run up and die to the death ball instead of going to get objectives. Seriously, if you're not the jungler, I DO NOT WANT YOUR HELP! Especially if I'm already crushing the lane :s

[@rex6830]

@@tonysmith9905I mean it makes sense you win lane you’re playing renekton one of the best early game champions

[@hanzlouisfeliciano8268]

ornn wave clear is fast

[@samsimmons728]

Love how none of this applies to jg.

[@ZadenWoW]

Tyler1 hit challenger in all lanes with average 6cs per minute, solo Queue is meant for aggressive plays.

[@DamonDraven]

So basically CS is just a symptom. It's like telling someone who's always tired to fix the bags under their eyes, instead of telling them to sleep more.

[@fallinggravity9964]

The purpose of telling people to cs more is to make them practice better last-hits, less unecessary trades, less unecessary team fights, and better wave management. High elo players sacrifice cs for better positoning or presence which makes sense when everyone knows what they are doing. In low elo you are wasting time not csing by joining fiestas and tracking the silver jg who is probably still looking in the shop at the fountain for 3 minutes.

[@sethmasters2147]

SHOK is awesome, watch his vids. 0:20

[@AHFAN11]

I've had things go wrong a bunch, but one of my best "keep your cool when sht goes wrong" decision was I played a game as kha zix and got my blue buff and gromp stolen, I was a bit salty but nothing else happened so I backed and decided to camp mid, their jungler decided to stay topside. 1 kill mid later and we get 2 kills bot and a dragon. since our mid was fed now I had complete control of dragon which lead to 2 more dragons, and the enemy team did a desperation baron. 20 minutes of being salty over my stolen blue buff and I get my sweet revenge by stealing baron. 90% of the games when I'm playing another role and a junglers buff is stolen, and he is seconds away from rage quitting. If I had done the same we probably would have lost. If I was to give anyone advice, it's to keep your cool. otherwise you could tilt off the map from 1 thing going wrong and lose a winnable game.

[@zinda9413]

Or play support

[@mindluckiv7898]

you didn't mention junglers :(

[@phoenix402]

camps are also cs

[@mindluckiv7898]

@@phoenix402 yes, but Junglers plane ganks and get invaded and camps getting stolen if team is behind and towers are down. they can't farm other side of the map if there is a gank or objective on bot-side of the map for example. and in losing game they can't farm at all in a lot of scenarios. I am not expert, you know better :).

[@Stoic1v9]

tbh people that say ''have 10 cs per min'' as their strongest argument, probably arent good teachers or understand the game that well.

[@moron0000]

And then you have my teammates, who steal every bit of cs and actively follow me arround the map to take resources away when i'm playing Kayle, and we lose because "why is kayle so weak?!" Like they weren't literally stealing every kill and minion from me.

[@qazweriopkoilj]

THIS DODDAMIT THIS. The only way to farm in some game is literally go int 1vs5 in enemy jungle. Because all lanes are overpushed, all your camps are cleared, where the F im goint to take cs??????

[@moron0000]

@@qazweriopkoilj in that case i would just wait i guess, but not even necesary as a situation for things to suck. You go to a lane and someone follows you for no reason when there's another lane free to farm, and similars. It sucks so much ass

[@northspawn]

No way skill capped is throwing shots at shox lmao

[@alexnewsome5111]

Just play support and bam don't need no cs

[@clubskitzhardstyle]

Shen can go sunfire titanic and clears waves like a breeze, cho has all aoe so he clears insanely wrll as well but these champions havr insanely strong team fight kits which is why you dont want them splitting, vs something like fiora she has more of a raw 1v1 dualist kit, her q and e work on towers for more further side lane pressure Like even yoricks kit doesnt match that and even has better team fight presence with long range slow into a wall/hold for immobile champions, tankyness with item builds and sustain on q, ghouls that can block skill shots etc

[@ArrakeenHD]

Me as a support watching this

[@mikyu4758]

No Shok Disrespect.

[@LuckyMeYes]

well i have 7-8 cs/mn and im bronze 2 😂😂😂

[@aaron43]

How is pushing a wave as vayne or any adc a good idea before dragon spawns? It may work in bronze or iron but you will likely get ganked and usually both first towers are gone. So there is no safety. If your a good vayne then no problem but any other adc once caught will be dead. When I played adc as soon as I left tower it was a 4v2 so definitely not recommended. However if your top laner has tp, the. They can push. They just need to communicate for wards, so they can get a decent tp in.

[@zero_charge8684]

This is why I play jungle 🤷

[@vic6755]

Okay sure, I got 10cs a minute. Now I've got the most farm in the game and have a bounty on me. Sweet!

[@JJGrainger-nh2ge]

If you have most cs in the game you generally will be able to win most 1v1s so you can push a side lane and they have to commit 2 players to stop you. This leaves your team with a 3v4 advantage in the team fight and if you can not die when they rotate with map awareness then you will win more games on average. Like the video says, it is all about enabling macro plays. If you die when they rotate it means you need to improve map awareness which is your bad not your team. Good cs is the starting point to being a good player because if you don't have good cs, you don't have any gold, and you won't have an impact on the game.