The truth points to itself

[@randyranderson690]

I love the Vorlon costumes....they are the most unique alien design I have ever seen in a Sci-Fi show or movie.

[@LordTalax]

That's true. Once in a great while you'll find some skilled cosplayer in one.

[@zephyr8072]

It's why I find that human knockoff costume in the Deconstruction of Falling Stars so trashy. But then that's another reason that episode is pure garbage that should be struck from B5 canon.

[@epiendless1128]

Universal Translator is stuck on 'Cryptic' again.

[@JohnJ469]

Yesssss

[@kurtjk01]

Kosh to Ulkesh: "See? It's cool to be cryptic. See how they dance to just a few words from us?" Ulkesh to Kosh: "Yeah, yeah, yeah, grandpa. Like I haven't known that for, what, a billion-plus years? Can we go telepathically invisible and get the hell out of here now? I want some Swedish meatballs."

[@Administrator_O-5]

Actually they're very close to the same age... In the episode where Sinclair becomes Valen & welcomes the Minbari Warrior Caste to Babylon 4 behind him are 2 Vorlon encounter suits opened & above them is a Vorlon in their natural form (looking at Sinclair/Valen) Kosh is on the left & Ulkesh is on the right. What Kosh meant by "being recognized by everyone" for the reason they need the encounter suits is the Vorlons inserted into every races DNA that when they saw a Vorlon they would see essentially a God or an Angel & they would hear their language. That's why when Kosh saved Sheridan when he had to jump from the bombing of the transport tube all the delegates saw a winged being with the head of their own race. That's what a Vorlon truly looks like. Well except the head is all blinding energy too. Make sense?

[@SN00PICUS]

Kosh should have beat that kid more 😂

[@Alamandorious]

Kosh was such a good person. He wanted to do more, help more, but was restrained.

[@vulcan2519]

didn't he was saved upon arrival at babylon 5 after someone tried to kill him? Maybe it was that?

[@Justanotherconsumer]

@@vulcan2519 Kosh (Naranek, the original Kosh) was a rebel and an outlier. Kosh (Ulkesh) appears to have been far more typical as a Vorlon. That the Vorlons are the good guys is... well, watch the show.

[@hello-ox5rf]

@@Justanotherconsumer really if you think about it any shadows or vorlon we see are extremists. The rest of their people decided long ago to leave their conflict behind but they were so gripped by their drive to get the answer that they stayed to mold the younger races. The ones we see are probably all big time outliers

[@Ladco77]

Kosh was the father who was constantly battling with wanting to help vs let us learn on our own.

[@wolfgangjr74]

@@Ladco77 I loved how he delayed his desperate answer in the hopes that she would figure it out first but her fears must have moved him so spurt what he said. Almost as in desperation for their child. He or it was really such an asset for the younger races.

[@PhilRiveraMedia]

Kosh and Ulkesh knew exactly what was going to happen thanks to Valen, so they really didn't have to say anything. In fact, saying something could potentially alter things, so the right decision was to stay silent and just let it happen. But, I think, Kosh took a little pity in Delenn's desperation. So, instead of staying silent, he gave her a word to hold on to. Essentially saying, don't worry, things are gonna fall right into place so easily that there's no need to fear. However, he couldn't say that either, so in classic Vorlon fashion, he said something vague, cryptic, and also factual. I suspect Ulkesh probably would have rolled his eyes at Kosh....if he had any.

[@johnbanks4761]

i came to dislike delenn, she was too much the coward to tell humanity that all those deaths..were her fault ultimately..her decision to wipe out so many humans..is it millions..or billions that died?

[@Apollonos]

@@johnbanks4761 Did you forget that the humans started it when they destroyed a Minbari ship and killed the Minbari leader? You might want to refresh your memory.

[@sandal_thong8631]

@@johnbanks4761 You can see her pain in that interview with ISN. But I wanted to reply to the OP that the Vorlons probably had their own ways of seeing the future (called prescience in _Dune)._ "If you go to Za'ha'dum you will die." ... "You said if I go to Za'ha'dum I will die." 'Yes, _now."_ It would have been interesting to see what Kosh had foreseen. Would they have even met Lorien? Even the Shadows had a premonition that if Vorlons or Vorlon technology reached Za'ha'dum they would die or something. But Sheridan saw the future on Centauri Prime, and assumed it happened because he did NOT go to Za'ha'dum which would have been the sensible thing to do. Then if Sheridan had jumped the second he was told, he might have lived a additional 20 years or more.

[@PackerBronco]

After the door closes: Ulkesh: "The truth points to itself"? What the hell is that supposed to mean? Kosh: I don't know. It sounded good Ulkesh: You're mean, you know that? Kosh: Yes Ulkesh: Oh shut up.

[@freewilliam93]

This show is about occult subjects that are the backbone of all religion.....theres a ton of allegories in it....

[@demarcusfaulkner7411]

Faith

[@gryphon9507]

Faith is not Truth. Faith is belief, conviction. Truth is true because it cannot be argued, disproved, or be a lie. Truth points to itself because truth simply is. Truth can be deigned, or fought against, but it still is the truth, it still is. A person can have faith in truth, but truth doesn't need the belief and conviction of faith to be true.

[@demarcusfaulkner7411]

@@gryphon9507 you have to have faith in order to find truth

[@FTLNewsFeed]

@@demarcusfaulkner7411 Faith does not always point to truth. You can have faith in wrong or bad things and ideas. Truth stands outside of faith so faith is not a requirement for finding truth.

[@sword4005]

vorlons always seems mysterious and all knowing until you realize they only know everything they did because of a time traveling human

[@travcollier]

That was one of my favorite things about B5. There was just the one time travel event (and none of the characters had a clue how it actually worked), but it had huge effects on everything that came before it.

[@Xentronium]

The only thing worse than one Vorlon standing there and talking cryptically is obviously two Vorlons doing just that!

[@SMAXZO]

0:35 "We have always been here....what took you so long? Ulkesh here has a dentist appointment at 3!"

[@Foebane72]

I always thought of original Kosh as Good Kosh, and the other one with the higher voice as Evil Kosh.

[@MundaneGray]

At the time, I referred to him as the Anti-Kosh.

[@Spacecookie-]

Then, as the doors close, one vorlon turns to the other and says 'That was awesome, you've really got this sounding like a pretentious wise guy thing down to a fine art.'

[@mscout1]

"Oh god I think I farted in my encounter suit"

[@mattwho81]

"Understanding is a three edged sword."

[@protorhinocerator142]

We are all Kosh.

[@LMG1792]

It is to late for the pebbles to vote

[@BrightOranje]

I actually thought all the B5 movies were good, but In the Beginning was certainly the best. Extremely well written, produced, and acted. Just top-notch drama.

[@protorhinocerator142]

ITB was by far the best of the movies.

[@mojojojo511]

The Vorlons know how this future will play out gained by information from Valen. "We are always here," simply means they are in the right place at the right time to make sure that these events happen. They know what will happen next, they are simply telling Delen to let events play their course... i.e: "I dont understand." followed by "You will."

[@protorhinocerator142]

They know how to handle concentric time loops. First rodeo was long ago.

[@user-kq1hf5sv2l]

"We are always here," simply means they are in the right place / nope. Its simple because their cores are beyond time

[@LordTalax]

@@user-kq1hf5sv2l Cores beyond time?

[@sandal_thong8631]

I don't think it's just what Valen told them. They must have their own ways of knowing about key future events, like if Sheridan goes to Za'ha'dum he will die, if Kosh doesn't help him or go with him. And the Shadows think if the Vorlons or Vorlon technology goes to Za'ha'dum they will die or something. Now, it's likely that Kosh didn't know exactly how things would play out; that Sheridan would even meet Lorien, and eventually bring an end to the Shadow War. I think someone (Ulkesh?) said that Sheridan had opened a new door, so they could change the rules of the game and wipe out planets with Shadow influence.

[@erictaylor5462]

I have used this quote "The Truth points to itself" so many times, and very few people ever seem to know it is a quote. Very disappointing. But the avalanche has already begun. It is too late for the pebble to vote.

[@thatguysaid]

He is behind me. You are in front of me. Withdraw, or be destroyed

[@erictaylor5462]

You forgot the first part of this quote. "In the conflict between our people and your, only one man survived battle with one of our ships." But the truth quote is applicable to many situations, yours, not so much.

[@shyone968]

He is behind me. You are in front of me. If you value your lives, be somewhere else.

[@Tyracks]

I've had the same with: "If you can not say what you mean, you can never mean what you say, the details are everything"

[@cyradon393]

A stroke of the brush does not guarantee art from the bristles.

[@SoaringDragon562]

"The truth points to itself." "I do not understand." What did you expect? You *are* talking to a Vorlon. That's actually pretty clear as far as Kosh goes. Two years on Babylon 5 (See: equivalent of a human blink) "I have always been here." His favorite saying, even more so than Who are you? :P

[@suchiuomizu]

At that point she probably did not know what to expect. She had not interacted with them much at that point, and despite working together 1,000 years ago and knowing them better than most races, it had still been a very long time since there was any contact between the Minbari and Vorlons.

[@gawainethefirst]

The truth points to itself. She’s a descendant of Valen. Sinclair is/was/will be Valen. It’s her destiny to find Valen and protect the timeline.

[@rachiesayd9423]

I thought "who are you" was Loriens line.....

[@michaelbowen2343]

@@rachiesayd9423 I think his lines were "why are you here?" and "where are you going?"

[@charleswilliams3804]

The only time a Vorlon repeated itself...

[@roguishpaladin]

Huh. Never thought about that. That does imply worry. On the other hand, they know that it all works out in terms of getting Sinclair, so it's odd that they'd be nervous. But it was an important thing to communicate - possibly the most important thing they did in the modern era.

[@suchiuomizu]

Jump! Jump now! Is sort of repeating himself.

[@athenaschoolar297]

@@suchiuomizu That's mean that in really important matter they will repeat :D

[@bbaruah]

RIP Delenn

[@JH24821]

I like how even here, you can see the difference between Kosh and Ulkesh. There's a coldness and impatience in Ulkesh's voice. Kosh's voice is more soft and understanding,

[@raven4k998]

the truth points to itself

[@thegreenmanofnorwich]

I like the way Delenn sounds so unsure, as it makes the contrast to scenes like breaking the grey council really remarkable. I also love all these comments for Kosh and Ulkesh's banter.

[@crazylarryjr]

Here she was still finding her place in it all, By the time she broke the grey council, she knew pretty much what she was and where she needed to be. Not sure of the life expectancy of Minbari, but as one she seemed very young and unsure, but among Humans she was very knowledgeable and very sure, almost like an old soul

[@thegreenmanofnorwich]

@crazylarryjr they say (I think in season 5) that minbari live to about 120 on average. I know there's a lot of time passed in-universe between the scenes; I just find it interesting.

[@saquist]

Kosh: Rasins shrivel only at night Delenn: 🤔

[@jamesdietz29]

You can always count on a Vorlon to answer a question you didn't necessarily ask.

[@rachiesayd9423]

So is that when they take Sinclair out of his fighter and run tests and discover he is in fact Valen!!!

[@SantomPh]

they run tests on him and the tri-luminary detects him as Minbari, which is a great shock to the Minbari, who have a strict ban on killing other Minbari. The Religious caste in particular are horrified that they have been ruthlessly murdering beings with Minbari souls and immediately move to surrender to Earth. The Warrior leadership kills themselves out of frustration and shame. Whether humans have Minbari souls is another question; Sinclair is fated to return to the last great war 1000 years ago with Babylon 4, transformed by the Great Machine's technology into Valen, the founder of current Minbari culture and social heirarchy, revered by all Minbari.

[@peterconway6584]

By breaking formation and attempting to ram the Minbari ship, Sinclair and his ship stood out from the background battle and thus "pointed to itself."

[@Egobyte83]

"The truth points to itself"..... meaning, "the painted fighter, tractor it in and get a whopper of a surprise".

[@cyradon393]

I would pay big money to see Kosh say that

[@sandal_thong8631]

I think that's what happens next. She gets a human to study, and he has some of Valen's DNA markers, along with his Minbari descendants. So it points that they are related and should not be destroyed.

[@LordTalax]

I never understood the Vorlon saying. "We've always been here." Surely it refers to more than their great age.

[@mho...]

and so it begins, there is a hole in your mind!

[@tuchehstone]

You have forgotten something.

[@davincent98]

No one here is who he appears to be

[@sandal_thong8631]

Before the Nine Inch Nails song.

[@mho...]

@@sandal_thong8631 wat?

[@eyallev]

delean:"what" kosh:"what do you mean **what*? we are vorlons, we are ancient, we are wise, you asked a question. you want us to repeat ourselves? *what** she asks, she heard me the first time ..."

[@davincent98]

Say what again!

[@SandsOfArrakis]

@@davincent98 do they speak Vorlon in what?

[@martinmanifold2241]

RIP great lady x

[@THEMINECRFATDUDE]

Did the Vorlons freak any one ells out when you first saw them?

[@jodyw1]

Both Vorlons knew Delenn would point to Sinclair - because Sinclair told them she did, 1,000 years ago. Closed loop. The truth points to itself, because it already did.

[@wufspyder]

Wisdom is a Gift. Similar to Knowledge. Often, neither is fully understood. Nor should either be squandered.

[@martinmanifold2241]

The truth literally does point to itself in life

[@marchukpeter]

Ameen Abornazine Hania. Amen.

[@suchiuomizu]

This was the Vorlons plan. They were both alive 1,000 years ago and as mentioned in the last comment, they knew from Valen what would happen. It is a stable time loop, and any attempts to differ from it would be dangerous, both for the coming war and for the war 1,000 years ago.

[@steelgreyed]

Vorlon plan? No. Vorlon dream, to plan understands all aspects of chaos, to believe you can control chaos well Warhammer 40K does a good depiction of that Hell that the Vorlons themselves hinted at in 3rd Space. the Undefeatable enemy is change. 3:)

[@donaldpaluga]

I wonder if the Vorlon ever tried to make contact with a Dr. Emmitt Brown

[@ImperialAtlantis]

Great scene. Love Kosh. Love to hate Ulkesh.

[@Tounushi]

The idea Kosh is Merlin brings a lot of nuance here. If the Vorlons "age backwards" or already know the future and perhaps how mutable it could be, would their cryptic speech be a product of them being as cautious as they can in changing the course of future events? Then again, at least Kosh personally knew Valen/Sinclair and recognized this as being a pivotal event.

[@Kalebfenoir]

I don't think they age backwards; that was a joke about Merlin aging backwards. But they're at a point in their evolution where they must be able to predict fairly accurately how people will behave ahead of time. The only time their predictions run short would be in the case of interference -- like Shadow interference. It's hard to predict an enemy who can do the exact same to you. But in the case of the Minbari and Humanity, they had thousands of years of data on both species already sifted through. Kosh KNEW. The Vorlons knew about the transmigration of souls from Minbari to Humans, and said nothing. Because they needed both races. Minbari for their stoicness, their strong warrior culture, and their willingness to accept any order if it came from the Vorlons...and the Humans for their intuitiveness, their stubbornness, and potentially for the willingness to fight and die if they felt the cause was just. Simply telling the Minbari might have caused a worse negative reaction than what happened. If you found out your races's souls were being moved to another species, and your species was on the decline because of it...wouldn't you want to change that? So they didn't tell them; they let them discover the transmigration, and that put an INSTANT halt to the war.

[@jamesbuchanan4414]

It's likely that both of them knew Valen from the previous war. Ulkesh may not have thought much of humans or minbari, but he understood enough to guide events where they needed to go.

[@Arado16]

only five words, but they mean more than a whole novel

[@bluntman1138]

Also, the Babylon 5 CCG, which everything was approved by JMS, also had the name Ulkesh Kosh for his card. Though not said in true TV canon, the name has been said by the B5 God. Most liken it to a "Expanded Universe: kind of thing, others comit it to canon, since JMS has said that was his "Name"

[@Vulpine407]

This was the only time, to the best of my knowledge, that someone got a Vorlon to repeat themself.

[@Administrator_O-5]

I think it would be awesome to have a B5 parody where the Vorlons are actually Beavis & Butthead...

[@kimnice]

Weren't they when you truly think abou it?

[@TheSweatdrop]

I agree with you but they don't say "We are always here." , they say "We have always been here." It refers to how old they are. It's also referring to the mental state they keep themselves in which enabled Kosh to find Sheridan when he was dreaming when he was captured by the Stribe.

[@Administrator_O-5]

If you think about it the Vorlons always sound like stoned philosophy majors... "dude the truth points to itself"...

[@blastermasterguy]

"KILL THEM ALL!" Delenn said after Dukat's death. I wonder if she ever had any idea just how close her one decision came to unmaking her entire species (including Dukat and herself)?

[@sparrowlt]

Well acording to the books the Minbari-Earth war was instigated by shadow agents (they made captain Jawkosky to be in command of the expedition and they made the Minbari convoy to "meet" the earth fleet, also shadow agents informed the centauri of the earth-minbari meeting as a narn-earth alliance dealing so centauris would sabotage it), but Vorlons being the order-loving they are and knowing what would happent would simply let things unfold to ensure no interference in future events

[@iona2225]

Makes it so much less climatic, if shadows were involved to be honest :/ they're practically the satan of B5 and in most expanded media before their departure, they were the reason for all the bad shit happening apparently EVER. It got really tiring. The shadows desired chaos, desired for the strong to overcome the weak and become stronger themselves, this doesnt Mean wholesale slaughter nor the finer points of putting a trigger happy jar head in charge of a fleet. Next, its gunna be suggested that the shadows made the grey council take that particular ship at that particular crossing at that particular time. The vorlons have had at least a modest pressence on minbar since the end of the previous shadow war, they would have detected such intrusion, especially at their weakest and when the Vorlon were most alert knowing that the shadows were moving about.

[@Ower8x]

Not it does not but it does not exclude it: look at what they did with Londo. They found a person receptive to their goals, and helped him get in to a position to start a war, and when he started pulling back they switched to Refa and used him to more wars. And even among the other races they tempted or threatened many to go to war. Their Philosophy can be summed up as Survival of the Fittest, and the main means is conflict. So it actually fits their MO to manipulate things in such a way that at least on one side you have people likely to start a conflict. And also do things to prevent knowledge of their resurgence getting out, before they want to. As the Dukat wanted to visit Zahadum ...

[@protorhinocerator142]

Kosh's final words: Who moos?

[@Blackwater_House]

First Rule of being a Supreme Being: Never Answer a Question with a Straight Answer, always Be Cryptic.

[@richtea615]

I think it means that the truth is self-evident and should be acted on.

[@arnomichaelmuller2727]

Ulkesh and Kosh lol

[@TheSweatdrop]

Very correct. It was about upcoming events. Delenn said " I don't understand ". Kosh said " You will ", giving them the reason they needed to stop. I don't know where several people got the name Ulkesh from, but it wasn't from the TV series. When the second Vorlon arrived, he said " We are all Kosh ". The second Vorlon's helmet looked like a Shop-Vac.

[@cyradon393]

The novels. He is named in there.

[@sandal_thong8631]

Valen should have introduced them both to the Minbari in his only appearance, for our benefit.

[@PsychoticSorcerer666]

I am surprised the Vorlons were not frustrated or angry with Delenn for starting the Human/Minbari War. That war had botched up their plans when they had the Shadows to deal with. I don't blame the Vorlons for not helping or caring about who the hell died in the war, because it was the result of anti logic.

[@epiendless1128]

Without the war, no Babylon project. Without the Babylon project, no Babylon 4 to turn the tide of the previous war, leading to Shadow victory. The Vorlons knew the war was coming, and the very least they did was let it happen.

[@donaldpaluga]

@@epiendless1128 This is heavy ;)

[@zombieshoot4318]

You can't really blame her. She didn't start the shooting. That was on the humans. Even if she wasn't there the odds are the war would have started the exact same way.

[@bluntman1138]

Though they are all Kosh, they do have Names to identify themselves among other people (people they trust) Though not in the Series, in books written by JMS, and i think on one of the Commentaries, JMS says his name is Ulkesh Kosh. Also Lyta mentions carrying Ulkesh arouns was not like carrying Kosh..."It's different from when i carried Kosh around) Also, Ambassador Kosh is one of the Oldest Living Vorlons, in a Vorlon point of view, they are all Kosh, becuase they desended from him?

[@jnx7884]

They are extremely telephatic, sort of hive-mind configuration: they are all one, in this sense.

[@SantomPh]

because they are in their suits all the time, the ambassador they send is Kosh. It is always Kosh. We are led to believe the Kosh we know is Kosh Naranek and his replacement is Ulkesh, who requests that Sheridan call him Kosh anyway. As Kosh died on Babylon 5 his government decided to send a far less helpful ambassador, who unlike Kosh was dedicated to keeping the status quo among the powers.

[@user-kq1hf5sv2l]

Because in Vorlon race exists many fractions/aspects which vorlons can dedicates and " Kosh" refers to one of them that means " nurturing the youngers races" and Ulkesh means dedicate to acting (in military)

[@martinmanifold2241]

A quote to live your life by ..."the truth points to itself " -> ->

[@nicholasgulla4666]

What episode is this clip from? I don’t remember seeing it

[@robertjackson3552]

ask a Minbari a question you will get two answers ask a vorlon you only get one you cant understand it but it is one

[@tuchehstone]

A reply is not an answer. But an answer is a reply.

[@lennykoss8777]

💗

[@roundhouse283]

Is the name of this episode John 14:6

[@Jadguy24]

how do you explain a time paradox as why you have to stop a war

[@donaldpaluga]

GREAT SCOTT!

[@tanjastrau5925]

@Kevin Kiker Actually there literally was a video in the back of their drawer that explained everything. It would have made the kidnapping of Sinclair unnecessary and could probably be not being kept a secret to the rest of the Minbari ...

[@Jadguy24]

@@tanjastrau5925 considering as soon as the “chosen one” closed the time loop the minbari began a civil war for who was in charge I doubt that would work.

[@tanjastrau5925]

@@Jadguy24 mhhh... fair point

[@shyone968]

Once I watched the series again, I realized this could mean that when she points to Sinclair's ship she is pointing to herself. Sinclair is valen and will become mimbari. She is his great great oh so many great granddaughter and will become part human to balence the scales and 'close the door' Sinclair opened by becoming mimbari. The truth points to itself. Or am I searching too hard for meaning in Vorlon nonsense?

[@hyperion9142]

Instead of searching for meaning, perhaps you should focus on spelling instead since it is Minbari, not mimbari.

[@shyone968]

Its a fictional race on a fictional world and a typo.

[@hyperion9142]

​@@shyone968 A typo, huh? Yet you made the same typo TWICE? Whether it's a fictional race or whatever has nothing to do with it, you just thought it's Mimbari rather than Minbari! BA HA HA HA!

[@kurtjk01]

The truth is the closed time loop. The Vorlons knew about it, and knew that they had to be there in order to keep the time loop closed, It was, therefore, a foregone conclusion, and thus: the Truth points to itself.

[@cyradon393]

If one seeks meaning, they must listen to the music, not the song.

[@kraxus03]

If no one but the (the by now dead) Minbari leader...and De'lenn...knew of the Vorlon existance on the ship, how did they get aboard seeing as it was never hinted or suggested that Vorlons could shift in and out of space as individuals like the Shadows ?? In fact it was clearly pointed out that they needed ships.

[@whatgamesweplay]

telepathic mind control, making others not see them, or see someone/something else in their place

[@SenileOtaku]

S.E.P. Field... (hitchhikers.fandom.com/wiki/Somebody_Else%27s_Problem_Field)

[@raven4k998]

the truth points to itself

[@demarcusfaulkner7411]

Entail za Delenn

[@babylon218]

Is it just me or does Kosh sound...younger in this scene?

[@arnomichaelmuller2727]

Ulkesh and Kosh LOL^^

[@TheSweatdrop]

"The truth points to itself." I think I understand. Kosh was saying "You know what you have to do. You must end this war while there is still time to end it." ......... Kosh played G'Kar's father and the other Narn during his dust dream.

[@TheSweatdrop]

Picking Sinclair was mere chance. Delenn did not know minbari souls we're being reincarnated as humans until Sinclair was subjected to the tri luminary. I think Kosh meant "You ou know this war is wrong

[@TheSweatdrop]

You know this war is wrong. The truth is easy to see. You know the minbari are taking their revenge too far. You know you have to stop this war. The truth points to itself. The truth is not difficult to see. Just as the humans we're taking their hate of the minbari too far. Just like G'Kar's father told him "It no longer matters who started it. It only matters who is suffering." Stop the war now.

[@TheSweatdrop]

Thanks for the pleasant memory.

[@johndoes2434]

Kill bill 1 kill bill 2 truth points to its self

[@lyncat]

What throws me off is, if this is the Earth-Minbardi War we're looking at, Delenn should not look like she does. This is pre-chrystalis.

[@tsm688]

They had to ditch Delenn's androgynous look, because she had allergic reactions to the huge amount of makeup and glue-on bits required.

[@Diogo503]

i don't remember this part from the series...

[@curmudgeonextraordinaire1884]

It’s not from the series, it’s from the In the Beginning movie

[@Diogo503]

@@curmudgeonextraordinaire1884 thanks ;) haven't watched the movie.

[@johndoes2434]

Bill cooper 2001

[@johncampbell9646]

It will never happen. This would reach way beyoud the little guys that have been named . Therefor nothing will be done

[@leoperidot482]

Did STAR TREK have any aliens like the Vorlons? I can't think of any. It seems the humans are the smartest in both universes.

[@tsm688]

Guinan

[@steveross8364]

"The truth bodes to itself" "What? I don't understand" "Understanding is a three-edged sword" "Well if all your going to do is stand around being cryptic..."

[@KuDastardly]

Plot twist, after the door closed behind Delenn, the Vorlons go back to making out. "We really gotta find a motel"