THE TWIST?!? 😱 | Agatha All Along Ep 1x8 Reaction & Review | MCU on Disney+

[@kacektv9405]

"Sometimes boys just die" ohhh😢😢😢 Agatha they could never make me hate you. Even with hindsight.

[@mangalores-x_x]

But it won't stop her from trying. ;)

[@chappellro4n]

literally

[@Jamestopboy]

Agatha and Rio are the literal epitome of “I hate you, but I have to have you”. They loathe each other, but they also love each other at the same time.

[@davidalves31057]

so toxic

[@mamatthews78]

Agatha said in episode 2 that taking Rio's power would kill her.

[@friendlyfiddler5727]

And I think that's how she dies, there's black energy swelling around both of them during the kiss and she floats for a moment before falling back and decays.

[@OHALALNOHA]

@@friendlyfiddler5727 i think that was just Rio's famous kiss of death. An iconic ability the grim reaper/death has possessed in media throughout history.

[@eugeniamarch]

​@@OHALALNOHA not really. Because Agatha says in episode 1 "you can't kill me, it's not allowed". If Rio was capable of killing someone with a kiss, she could have done it and killed Agatha, but she didn't because she can't kill. Agatha died here because of the siphoning of Rio's powers, she did it through a kiss, and it was a metaphorical kiss of death instead of the literal

[@Whatusername-17]

Also Rio never attacked her with magical beams like other Witches she only used nature against her like air and vines.

[@alplicable]

Jac Schaeffer confirmed in an interview about this episode that Rio and Agatha have kissed previously without issues; the reason Agatha dies here is exactly because she's using her power sucking ability (her succubus powers) on Rio, which is what's killing her.

[@michaelprovenza7575]

Alice's death being real was still heartbreaking. "You're a protection witch and you died protecting someone" still hurt. I think she should have had a daughter so breaking the curse could have meant something.

[@BiaTheo]

"sometimes boys just die" showed the same thing from a different perspective. Death just is. It doesn't need anything else happening to have or lack meaning. She lived, she died. That's life, quite literally.

[@nathanmiller9918]

They did a really good job of lending weight to the characters that were lost. Everyone already loved Debrah Jo Rupp so her dying first inherently mattered. They fleshed out the others stories enough to feel like they mattered before they were offed.

[@diegoeraseunavez]

Wiccan appears: "it's so gay! He's such a little twink". I'm 💀💀💀

[@ljb5163]

I was thinking the same thing though lol

[@Eternalsfan]

Legal twinks are hot though. 24+.

[@wisemoon40]

Sharon said there were tunnels under Westview, from a failed mass transit system. The entire Witches’ Road was in the tunnels below Westview. So technically the place was real (like with Wanda). He created it unconsciously (again like Wanda), but the Trials were real. He created the Witches’ Road, and unconsciously set the “rules” but then it acted somewhat autonomously to create the Trials. What is really wild is, why were the Salem Seven able to enter? Another piece of evidence that once created, the Road was a real place and not being consciously controlled by Billy.

[@brandyanderson3522]

That is why we see the subway in last week's episode

[@wxywawjy626]

Salem 7 entered because of the spell they made in episode 4 which left the "door" opened so basically the spell left a pathway to where they were, this magical realm created from Billy's mind of what the Witches' Road would look like.

[@andreworihuela5175]

the kid getting Tommy's soul as he's drowning has to be one of the darkest scenes in the whole MCU, just as dark as Marc Spector getting abused by his mom, the ravager executions, HYDRA is secretly in SHIELD, Ego's true motive, The High Evolutionary destroying Counter-Earth and mocking Rocket for killing Lyla, and the snap/blip

[@ShinobiPhoenix-YT0]

"Sometimes, boys die" is this show's "What's Grief but love persevering." and on message still. It's all grief and people's process (healthy and not so much).

[@SharonToggle]

Love that they got into the actual horror of Billy's powers.

[@LukaWukaWatcher]

Yeah, the power to twist and create reality, even on accident, is truly terrifying

[@SharonToggle]

@LukaWukaWatcher I'd say it's especially terrifying because it's on accident! In the comics he eventually starts worrying that he can't have a truly consensual relationship because he might have unconsciously influenced his boyfriend to fall in love with him, which leads to them breaking up for a little while. It's a whole mess.

[@Persephone_Personified]

@@SharonToggleBilly + Teddy 4eva

[@alangarde2928]

Loved how they did the fight. It was a worry for me too, but they got it right. They made it so very personal between them. Centuries of feeling behind every move and more barbed words than anything else.

[@Arezoo298195]

I’m gonna rewatch the whole show because of all the twists.😁

[@Yourmanjeff]

i'm going to go back further to Wandavision because if what we learn in episode 9 was true the whole time, it would re-frame a lot of things.

[@sillyskater2]

20:21 what Billy believes can become reality. Agatha created the story of the Witches’ Road to bait witches into her trap but because Billy heard stories about it and believed in its existence; he made it a real thing.

[@Pistonnnnn]

Makes me wonder if the Witches' Road continues to exist from now on and any future coven will be able to access it if they do the ballad regardless if billy is there or not. "Magic on autopilot".

[@sillyskater2]

@Pistonnnnn Yeah I’m mixed on that too. I know in the comics Billy creates reality, similar to Wanda but he has to believe in it. So him believing in the road would make it real. So yes, any coven anywhere in the world could conjure the road with trials suited to them without Billy BUT seeing him going back and forth”sealing” it off in the last episode kind of makes me think that him knowing he made it and that the stories were fake, that the road now doesn’t exist.

[@jenniferambrose5603]

Hopefully no one reads this before they watch the end ep

[@SpeedyCheetahCub]

It's like that episode of Supernatural where the kid had reality-warping powers and what he believed was real actually happened around him, which mean that practical jokes were killing people because he was told that itching powder made you scratch your brains out and joy buzzers fried you to death so it was actually happening to people until the boys managed to convince him that those things weren't true.

[@aspieanarchist5439]

"I think she`s losing it." If by "it" you mean patience and sanity, Agatha never had much to begin with!

[@Billy01113]

The Road is as real as Wanda`s fantasy town, same power Wiccan manipulates reality. He conjured the road, it is very real when you are on it.

[@Arieoformation]

Ah but the road is real it’s a pocket dimension that Billy created then, in my opinion, just closed the door too & any witch now access it if they want

[@SummerFullOfHope]

I would say the road is *more* real than Wanda's version of Westview. For her she took the existing town and just essentially used magick to apply a sort of "filter" to it, but Billy actually manifested the road into reality. Yes, the road didn't exist before he made it, but once he did make it, it *was* real, existing on its own outside of his power, and (mostly) outside of his control. I'm not sure if at the end of the show when he seals the door if that's him closing *that* door or erasing the road from existence, but either way the road was absolutely *real* while the coven was on it.

[@VilikesaTuragakula]

Billy helping Tommy's soul find a body is the most Maximoff thing ever. And taking responsibility for someone else earned him worthy of being a Young Avenger!!😊

[@duck-ew5zs]

Most of the show is just "Come on Agatha don't be an asshole again :(("

[@pegusus12346]

The rest of the show is Agatha killing people lol

[@afrancis1582]

Irredeemable villain. But somehow you can’t stop loving her.

[@antothephoenix509]

JUST the scene of the possibly Tommy's resurrection was UNBELIEVABLE ! Heartbreaking, and horrible, she gave me goosebomp. A child who's not loved by his parents ? And killed by bullies ? What terribly sad life this kid had 😰 ?

[@fudgyvmp3961]

Rio just cutting open the set was my favorite strange moment

[@zuyrais]

billy was the one who found all the clues, and everytime he said something, convieniently the road granted his saying even this episode he said 'back to square one'

[@przemekkozlowski7835]

Lillia told him that the trials were about people facing their fears so that what they became about. Agatha was also manipulating him by giving him suggestions as what they might encounter on the Road. The entire "punish Agatha" thing was him being fed up with Agatha insulting everyone and making a mockery of the trials.

[@PredatorH2O]

​​@@przemekkozlowski7835 Also he can read minds so he could easily subconsciously make the trials deeply personal to each individual .

[@Wicketor]

I love Rio cutting her way out of that scene. Huge foreshadowing that they are all in a fake made-up place. Little things like that are what make this show amazing.

[@tryingmybardest]

Like they say, life's a stage (the road could be seen as a play/backdrop), or well, in this case a magical reality created by the mind of a telapath/reality witch is a stage :)

[@jasonmarbach]

I think Agatha All Along is the best tv show to ever have the marvel brand, and pretty easily. It’s so good I have it on a short list with sacrosanct marvel properties like Infinity War and Winter Soldier. I need a season 2, or *SOME* kind of continuation of this story, and I need that confirmed expeditiously

[@Justanotherconsumer]

Vision Quest is coming as the third part (WandaVision is the first).

[@IndomitableAde]

21:57 when they first started on the road, Sharon said that she thought the only thing under Westview was its old transportation system. That would explain the subway. There's also a moment when Lily and Jen are together where you can see the yellow veins in the wall on one side of Lilia and work lights in the tunnel on the other side of her.

[@Harpie.]

"He's such a twink" LMAOOO this ep and next had me crying in both ugh, that situation with the boy is so depressing and I love the foreshadowing all throughout this show.

[@sillyskater2]

The show is absolutely amazing. I give credit to the cast and crew for putting in the work and creativity to make such a great show.

[@alplicable]

The Road was made real by Billy. It didn't exist before. Just like WandaVision was made real by Wanda's Hex, the Witches Road was just underground, under Westview, which is why they ran into the subway station that Mrs. Davis mentioned in episode 3 ("our failed public transit system"). Like mother, like son.

[@andycampbell3929]

But can other witches conjure The Road now? Or was it a one time dealio

[@antothephoenix509]

I love how Agatha and Rio have absolute FUN to throwing spells in each others faces ! 😂

[@sillyskater2]

Agatha can’t absorb Death’s powers because of the cosmic entity concept, there’s always going to be Death and Agatha can’t absorb or replace Death. Agatha kissing Death was her attempting to absorb her powers, knowing that it will kill her. If you notice Death continues like it is just a make out session but then realized that Agatha was absorbing her powers thus dying without Death causing it. The kiss wasn’t necessary but it seems like the only way Agatha would be able to get Death to “give in” on being the one to kill Agatha against her will.

[@IanGoesBoom303]

What could be worse than sacrificing your son? Well, when the premise isn't true to begin with...the truth of being unable to save your son would seem to be somewhat worse, I think. That's why she lets them believe she sacrificed Nicholas for the Darkhold. Because she knows it's not true, and because the truth is worse. She couldn't save him, even with all her power.

[@colderattic5569]

Poor sharon thirst she got traumatised by wanda, kipnapped by agatha and killed by Billy

[@Heavensrun]

Billy has his mom's reality-warping powers. The road was real, but he also created it.

[@ShantalhaitianPrincess]

Aubrey plaza as Death makes the Dead pool relationship even more epic when they meet up lol

[@TheRatsCast]

New Rockstars actually stated this was a possibility. They talk about all the things on the road that's in William's room. Sharon Davies did say she was expecting to see the old failed Metro down below, which was there.

[@charmedoriginal5923]

Nerdy & Claroos, I believe Billy aka Wiccan created the Witches Road ( like Wanda created Westview ) after doing all the research on Agatha and learning of the song with inspiration from his room decor, as away to find his brother Tommy Maximoff aka Speed. Loved the whole "Wizard of Oz" you had the power to go home all along vibe in this episode..

[@michaeltibbs7626]

Billy's power can change the rules of magic and realty warp like wanda. He subconsciously created the witches road and brought it into existence. I believe not the road can now be conjured since he brought it into reality. lilia did say he was the magician, capable of bringing his desires into reality. In Multiverse of Madness, the world American Chavez came from was created by Billy Maximoff (Demiurge)

[@EveryThing-z6k]

It didn't all happen in Agatha's basement, it happened in the ruins of the failed public transit system beneath Westview. Sharon mentioned it in episode 3. The way off the road being a subway stop is just the border of the hex he created.

[@alwaysbecrazy]

Omg thanks for noticing rions crown and the way Rio cut through the fabric of the set witch was also the fabric of Billy's X come on, Jenns being whole again made me cry lol And the kiss of death 😢 ❤

[@andrewwebb3248]

These two episodes were amazing. 9 got me teary eyed at the bridge and was still hitting you from left field.

[@jcs1025]

Joe Locke is definitely an adorable twink and I’ve had a major crush on him since Heartstopper started. ❤️❤️

[@claremoore2741]

I suspected him halfway through the show when I noticed a pattern of the timer only starting after Billy did something like picking up the card or playing the record or touching the Ouija board… but I love how they did it

[@imthestein]

To me episode 1 is the prologue and episode 9 is the epilogue. I find that makes this season make perfect sense

[@robertbooth4238]

the final 2 episodes were SOOOO good. I can't wait to see y'all react to ep 9.

[@andrewwebb3248]

The reveal that Agatha had never been on the road and scared at not getting out.

[@jocelyngipson7882]

I don’t think she was scared. I think she just wanted her powers back

[@moraes.guilherme]

​@@jocelyngipson7882idk she DEFINITELY thought she was gonna die on the road when the lights started going out

[@andrewwebb3248]

@@jocelyngipson7882 When she saw the shoes & started screaming about not having an answer was her self reflection. The whole time she had been seeing Billy in herself and worried about not being able to bluff her way.

[@jocelyngipson7882]

@@moraes.guilherme i meant when they were actually on the road. Not in the trial

[@jocelyngipson7882]

@@andrewwebb3248 the desperation

[@ourabouras]

I never thought I’d get the chance to experience The Usual Suspects ever again but this show totally bamboozled me🤯 I’m so rewatching the entire season again and again😊

[@markh.williamsauthor7286]

Is she conning Billy or Rio? Yes

[@joegless225]

The music on this series hits so hard. Can't wait to see your reaction to the last few seconds of the finale.

[@LeeCarlson]

We forget that Billy Maximoff is also The Demiurge with the ability to shape reality in the same way that Wanda did with Westview.

[@Sharpester]

His powers were reality, not illusions, so everything we saw really happened.

[@MM_Talks13]

"Am I killing this boy so my brother can live" sent chills through me and my fiancée

[@duk2112]

The things Wanda makes with her magic are real. So the road magicked up by Billy is also now real. I imagine that door that was created/opened needs to be closed in the next episode

[@sonicsean34]

Nerdy was so close to saying he'd react to Nightmare Before Christmas by saying “What's this!? What’s this!?”

[@jamesfoster9613]

I literally said the same thing to my wife, "If I had to choose a way to die...kissing Aubrey Plaza...probably top of the list."

[@MattheusSantos-sf3zb]

I will miss this series 😭

[@MishaHusnainAli]

I love the line about Death asking why Agatha doesn't want her because like, how done with life being shitty would you have to be to eventually want Death anyway, right?

[@mailyak442]

Wait her saying “let me out!” makes so much sense when you know she’s talking to Billy

[@Archelaus42]

"They need to move. They need to find a new town." THAT'S WHAT I SAID!

[@Radictor44]

This was so ridiculously twisty twisted

[@StarkRG]

"Death's a shitty ex." Yeah, dating fundamental aspects of reality is definitely ill-advised. You do *not* want to get on the bad side of the strong nuclear interaction. Gravity's probably ok, though, it's tenacious and has a long reach, but the attraction is relatively weak.

[@Justanotherconsumer]

Cap: I understood that reference!

[@imthestein]

The subway was mentioned in episode 3 by Sharon as something they should be seeing underground because it was a failed project

[@BeezyGrey19]

To answer your question, Agatha said in episode 1 that if she took Rio's power it would kill Agatha.

[@LeeCarlson]

One thing that I have learned regarding drama is that the most fantastic dramatic actors cut their acting chops as comedians. The better they can perform comedy, the more range they seem to bring to drama.

[@ElisaDasilva-j7y]

5:36 the "tsc lesbians..." had me dying 😂😂😂😂

[@markh.williamsauthor7286]

I love everything about this show. The actors are all super amazing!

[@Angelika.b210]

I would like to think that Rio's trail was between her and Agatha in a way. We see the green on the road for a bit in the episode, and Rio is THE green witch. Her trial was to see if she could finally manage to, not kill, but kill Agatha, and to get closure in a way by finally letting go of Agatha. Which i doubt she did but oh well. 😭

[@cliveklg7739]

Agatha said she'd die if she tried to take Death's power, they flash back to her saying that even. "Is episode 9 a musical epside." Since you've seen it you know technically yes it is.

[@Tristian729]

Wrong. The Trail happened in the basement. Which is why Wiccan walked out of Agatha's I mean Ralph Bohners house.

[@Rutabega_NG]

Death/Rio slashing through the scrim in the background had me laughing. I didn't know what to expect from this. I did know that all of the Marvel shows I watched with a female-led cast I enjoyed, so I figured I'd at least get that much out of this. Early on in the journey, Mrs. Davis (Kitty) mentioned the failed public transit system in the area. For the area, having it be a subway makes sense. This show was freaking brilliant! I stayed up later than I wanted last night because I had to watch both episodes. Looking forward to the reaction to the final episode.

[@weareparamore1597]

death is in level of eternity. you can't just kill her

[@Justanotherconsumer]

What is death may never die!

[@mailyak442]

Billy has powers of creation so he literally created the Road! So it was real just not before Billy created it, and he controlled it

[@MattheusSantos-sf3zb]

Ágatha has already accompanied Wanda on the path of the witches in the comics in the form of a ghost, now she will guide Billy, that's so good!💙💜

[@zemoxian]

So the next part is VisionQuest. Should we be expecting some altered reality hijinks in the next series? Something like a “vision quest?”

[@lazypaulreact]

Is my first time watching Joe Locke and he's amazing !! That line just before disappears in the last trial gaaaddaaaammn!!

[@Justanotherconsumer]

I just need Ruby Rhod saying “super green” every time I see /the/ Green Witch.

[@johnniequinn3215]

Thank you for breaking this into two reactions.

[@spccolts]

Billy read their minds (subconsciously) and created items the other women cared about.

[@feralart]

Wanda inadvertently had it right with throwing bolts of power at Agatha instead of flows, Agatha still absorbed the power but it didn't open a connection for her to seize.

[@CharlieSpring_]

Could you react to Heartstopper? Joe Locke plays one of the main characters, and it's such a cute and wholesome show! It's based on graphic novels by Alice Oseman, and I highly recommend it

[@lacondrathompson1747]

Happy Halloween everyone

[@qscott777]

I'm so damn annoyed with myself for not taking note that the doors leading down into the road were hexagonal 🤦‍♂️. The whole thing was Billy's hex. Looking back, it's so obvious lol

[@TheJackedOLantern]

6:50 That's why you don't date entities of certain primordial aspects. The break up would be universe shattering. Imagine dating someone like... A Lord of Order, that one would have serious control issues. "We wash away the food bits first before adding soap. That is the order of things! blah blah fucking blah..."

[@ikarus6549]

"Is episode 9 a musical episode?" Yes. No. Maybe...

[@kevinjohnson7631]

They established in episode 2 that if Agatha tried to absorb Rio's magic she would die.

[@RDL_424]

"Did he fabricate the whole world? He does like mind manipulation stuff, right?" Wait, is she implying that the Witches' Road and journey was conjured by Billy inside his mind and he trapped the rest of the coven inside this mental world?

[@Suchega_Uber]

I love how when she dies her shoes curl up.

[@execuwutie_YT]

That intro got me dying 😂

[@arubinojr5670]

Give your heart to a straight guy and immediately fall into turbo hell? Relatable, but... Give yourself the kiss of Death partially to save your gay nephew but mostly as a way of saying "Consider this our divorce"? Aspirational.

[@scottbrawley2599]

Clarus, you could totally pull off Rio/Death at the next ComicCon or other gathering.

[@TRYPH]

This show is definitely very good but my number 1 this year is definitely "The Penguin". One of the best shows i ever watched and it’s not even finished. Edit: You guys need to watch The Penguin, it’s so extremely entertaining

[@katschaccc]

I love this show to death❤

[@restlessoblivion]

Where's EP 9 haha can't wait to get your final thoughts on the show!

[@grimreaper4104]

Definitely Keyser Söze vibes at the end

[@phrophannus]

8:47 the little shoes in his room look like they're made of bronze

[@feralart]

People having their young children's first shoes bronzed after they grow out of them as a keepsake is a thing.

[@batknightchannel8169]

I'm glad this series happened ,or else I would keep on believing Agatha is just a villain who's hungry for power. It seems the power is to find her son ,which won't be enough same as a mother's love.

[@willjohnson8446]

It’s the reverse Keyser Söze ending.

[@brandyanderson3522]

14:48 Agatha still doesn't have any powers. At the end of episode 5, we saa the power she got from Alice fizzle out before the others come out of the trail house.

[@lanaxbillie614]

8:31 bro how did he know!!!???!?!

[@abhisheke4683]

Please do the reaction of Kalki 2898 AD movie, which is featured in Comic-con international, its a Indian's highest budget film and also a Mythological Sci-fi Action Drama genre

[@Miscellaneous_Minx]

I mean, in a sense the next episode is a musical episode

[@georgechristianjr]

#JoeLocke the most beautyful twink on earth

[@jasonmarbach]

Yeah, Sasheer Zamata absolutely bodied this role. They did so great

[@Justanotherconsumer]

Midnight Suns incoming!

[@jasonmarbach]

@ probably not until after secret wars resets everything, but yeah definitely then. Blade, then Midnight Suns

[@georgechristianjr]

hope you had tissus for 9th episode lol