Quickybaby: "What should I take?" Everyone: "Of course you're going to take the turbo!"
@stephanfuchs78912 жыл бұрын
It would be better if you showed the best tier 9 tech tree tanks.
@Zuze12212 жыл бұрын
He did it 9 months ago
@johnfarscape2 жыл бұрын
Yeah he did already, there are actually loads of great tier 9s, it's just these 2 reward ones are op in comparison to any of them. . They should be tier 10 really.
@KuliJens2 жыл бұрын
I haven’t watched the video yet, but I wouldn’t have clicked if it was tech tree vehicles. I clicked specifically for these tanks this time. They are in the game, and we appreciate content on them. Stop whining.
@Swellington_2 жыл бұрын
@@KuliJens damn, you told him didn't ya big guy?
@briansaben56977 ай бұрын
@@Swellington_ and your sure told him…🤡
@TheArmouredArmadillo2 жыл бұрын
KPZ is right up there with my favourite tanks in the game, but the Tortoise to me will always be the best tier 9
@pokuy6756 Жыл бұрын
Tortoise best tier 9 KEKW
@Goosegobler10 ай бұрын
Up there with the t95 but I hate chasing damage with it when the enemy team is melting too fast
@Mystro849 ай бұрын
1 year later, I still absolutely love the Tortoise For me it and the KPZ are the most comfortable tanks at any tier Love that thing to death
@mhy07932 жыл бұрын
1181 dpm is very low QB, even for t4. 7:51
@DenalyMin2 жыл бұрын
Haha I noticed that too! What did he mean to say, 2181?
@arod71472 жыл бұрын
@@DenalyMin Yeah
@TheArmouredArmadillo2 жыл бұрын
No wonder the tank doesn't get 60% win rate lol
@stijnbeck63942 жыл бұрын
@@DenalyMin base dpm is 2275
@stevepritchett65632 жыл бұрын
Two OP reward tanks, surprise surprise!
@Major_Boredom6 ай бұрын
Well, he is doing a video on the *best* tier 9 tanks so ofc they're going to be op
@robinkhn25472 жыл бұрын
6:26 I wouldn't say that reward tanks like the Concept 1B and the Kpz 50t are limited to the best players. You only need to play through Division 1 in Ranked, which isn't really difficult. I'm pretty sure every average player can manage to achieve that.
@jackalsniper8922 жыл бұрын
No they can't, the average player cannot achieve it
@noahshimoskie70712 жыл бұрын
@@jackalsniper892 it’s really not that hard lol
@TheArmouredArmadillo2 жыл бұрын
Certainly easy if you spend bonds on them. It is harder if you need to grind through 2 divisions of ranked three times in the year
@johnfarscape2 жыл бұрын
Using a Turbo is a issue for me, once I have played a few games with the Turbo using the same tank without it feels painfully slow, I have ended up with a Turbo on almost everything, same with improved aiming, I have that on almost everything so the only slot choice for me is really is if the 3rd one is rammer or vents, only the terrible dispersion tanks get vert stabs now like the abysal gun handling WZ111114
@johnfarscape2 жыл бұрын
@@auquitaine9201 anything that can have a mobility slot gets a standard turbo, if it can't I'm putting bounty turbo on them, If I could buy bond turbos I would have cleared my account out by now 🤣, even the stuff that's already fast like the CS has one. . It transformed the IS3a and the VZ for me, both my E50 and E50m feel like they have had the engine restrictions removed, adding the ground resistance reductions from the mods and everything feels so much faster, it's probably a little overpowered tbh .
@Swellington_2 жыл бұрын
@@johnfarscape you have a turbo on an is3a? And what else? I have vents and vert stabs and I think improved aiming, the gun on that tank does what it wants sometimes but do you replace vents with turbo or something? I'll have to try it out tomorrow
@johnfarscape2 жыл бұрын
@@Swellington_ I have Turbo, Vents and vert stab, I managed to make the accuracy a bit better with the field mods but it's still no sniper, I play it up close so don't notice the bad accuracy as much.
@Arashmickey2 жыл бұрын
The comparison with League of Legends is very apt. Planetside has done fairly well by offering sidegrades instead of upgrades, but that ship has sailed for WoT. Next insect to call at your house will be a longhorn beetle.
@ΓιάννηςΚουρουμίδης2 жыл бұрын
...if you want to have a very fun tier to play (and ruin the fun for everyone else), then these tanks are for you! PS: We need a tier 9 tierlist!
@shanky.y2 жыл бұрын
dont forget - its not the car, its the driver !
@novi_11052 жыл бұрын
Wow ever since I got twitch it’s been entertaining to watch these games live and hearing commentary later on youtube
@kprzemek892 жыл бұрын
6:30 You are right Mr Streamer, I fully supporting You on that topic.
@Meldonator2 жыл бұрын
great video as always. Funnily the concept was quicker than the pz :D Now we need the best tier 9 premium and the best tech tree or which tier 9 is "better" than tier 10 :D Yes, we get used to great contents :) PS: I think I remember the second battle stream!
@lopesey12 жыл бұрын
Any tank in the right hands can be great. But it is a team game so 🤷 sometimes impossible odds are to great to overcome.
@simosmaximos36422 жыл бұрын
430 is also a very good pick, for some reason i always do good
@sainteins2 жыл бұрын
I wonder what they would look like in terms of statistics compared to all other tanks, if you would only look at the player base that have them.
@GenHummel96 Жыл бұрын
Well, i guess they still would be a little bit above average... Kpz might be slightly better than T50, Leo PTA or Char Future 4 and Concept would outperform e75 and T10 by a small margin i guess 😅 They have their weaknesses, definitely not op, but situational strong 🤔 I tend to score around 53% WR and 2100dpg in most of my recently played tier 9 tanks - Concept is at 60% WR with 2270dpg in 83 battles so far ✌️
@allenholman34542 жыл бұрын
The T95 drive off the bridge was some funny stuff
@ramjetsr71582 жыл бұрын
And now a video with the to best techtree tanks pls. Thx.
@M45KY2 жыл бұрын
Saw the concept match on stream! Epic
@ericcummings4492 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I got a Kampfpanzer 50 t as a login reward on my PS account. It has become my new favorite. Can’t wait to get the STRV K in about a month
@Spectu2 жыл бұрын
how? so u did nothing and got that as login reward
@ericcummings4492 жыл бұрын
@@Spectu yes. You have to get 250 base xp every day for 45 days.
@Spectu2 жыл бұрын
@@ericcummings449 there is nothing like that on PC
@ericcummings4492 жыл бұрын
@@Spectu This is for PlayStation. Idk if it’s for XBox as well or not
@captricharddee36342 жыл бұрын
Insects in the house, we've had Ladybirds, Spiders, what other animals could show up? - Nicola Sturgeon?
@neilwilliams46843 ай бұрын
Spiders aren't insects though.
@erkkikekkonen4332 жыл бұрын
Malinovka the Main Battle Tank edition
@echomande43952 жыл бұрын
The next animal (animals; definitely plural) to distract you could be an ant infestation.
@lockdowntechtips2702 жыл бұрын
I don't even play wot pc yet I know everything about it since I watch all your vids. Somehow you manage to be one of the most entertaining youtubers out there without even making content that I would usually enjoy.
@michaelfoster82742 жыл бұрын
I don't know how different it is how to gain the Kpz.50T on PC vs console. But all I know i was grinding some games and went back to my garage and tada I gained it. I love this thank it's like a very fast heavy with and indestructible turret 80% of the time, you just have to hide your lower plate and farm damages especially if you are hull down ish like you are a farmer tilling the soil on the battlefield.
@bemusedpanda88752 жыл бұрын
Both the Concept and KPZ are tier 10 in Wot Blitz
@madogthefirst2 жыл бұрын
Today I learned the ranked bond shop is still open.
@M8rray2 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Good stuff.
@thebandz01162 жыл бұрын
Well played bro
@jonathanrichard54782 жыл бұрын
Didnt realise it was that hard getting the concept 1b i got it and only played a few games here and there when i had a few minutes
@ToniFalck2 жыл бұрын
Its really not, you need to go past division 2 to end up in any of the leagues (bronze too) not to mention people who dont even make it to bronze, you just have to play the gamemode to be able to buy the tank.
@robh3162 жыл бұрын
Have wg re buffed arty they seem to be hitting hard again?
@Jacob-ldk2 жыл бұрын
6:01 Yo QuackyBabs is in the House😎
@benwpianocovers6282 жыл бұрын
i mean ngl the concept 1b feels more like a medium tank with light tank armor rather than a medium tank with heavy tank armor
@THEFIRE3602 жыл бұрын
The problem of watching his streams is that you've seen these games already lol
@MrBornskinless2 жыл бұрын
Bond turbo, bond gun rammer, bond v-stab, how I like to play my concept, 2.4k win8 with 100 battles
@jb16392 жыл бұрын
I think the next animal to mess up a video will be a giraffe.
@Daniel-gr9ts2 жыл бұрын
Love the Vids!
@XtreeM_FaiL2 жыл бұрын
2:26 How did that pen from that angle?
@njc9642 жыл бұрын
I’m not what I’d call a good player. 50% win rate and about 1650 Wn8 these days. But I have both these tanks. I don’t agree they’re only available to good players.
@marco0022 жыл бұрын
they are not only available for good palyers, anyone could get it with a littlebit of grind on ranked (you did not even need to grind an entire ranked year, you could buy them later on, so you only had to save bonds) if you want to get the kpz or the conecpt you don't need to be a good player, you just need time to play
@MyGtmax2 жыл бұрын
I hope i will be able to buy the Kpz next year, completely forget to do it this year during ranked... :(
@davidfreeman25222 жыл бұрын
So the very good players get even better tanks. Makes alot of sense.
@ryanthejackalkuhn72 жыл бұрын
It's strange how I manage to absolutely suck in both of those OP tanks, while performing in so called "obsolete" vehicles.
@icephoenix3565 Жыл бұрын
Op tanks are for skilled players only, because you need to know map positions and strengths in exchange for softer armor but better damage potential. Obsolete tanks are better for trash players because they rely on armor but have bad damage potential
@andixx3642 жыл бұрын
Interesting, youtube wont let me have quality options for this vid, and its stuck on 144p. Great.
@matufujiwara74932 жыл бұрын
the second game is my mm when i have daily mission for 4 kills. everybody just seem to get kills right when i get a shell in. so i end up with 1 kill and 2.5x my hp worth of dmg
@tonka3011802 жыл бұрын
no no no, i dont agree. 🤪 clearly the Leopard PTA is one of the best of the best two.
@SW-ri8qt2 жыл бұрын
I reckon if it was top 3 t9s I'd say Char Futur 4 is for the running of 3rd?
@tomschulz96752 жыл бұрын
Biology is hard. Count the legs QuackyB!
@rockirocki32032 жыл бұрын
I love my 50tp got 3 marks on it and always have a good game ...
@addisoncochran63452 жыл бұрын
Dude, can you explain to me why the strv 1030 accuracy is so trolling vs the 103b being a laser??? Make that make sense lol
@lukefriesenhahn81862 жыл бұрын
Concept 1B is overpowered if you play it to it's strengths, but in the average community, it's said to be overrated concerning cost to in game performance along with fun factor. The Kampfpanzer-50t to me is bacicly a premium German Progetto the way it plays except I don't believe it has an automatic reloader capability as it was not standard on NATO tanks from 1946-1980.
@yobodg45972 жыл бұрын
kpz has nothing in common with any progetto, what are you talking about?
@lukefriesenhahn81862 жыл бұрын
@@yobodg4597 I know there are some differences, but I was talking about how they were both made during the 1960s and were both proposed instead of the Leopard MBT. Take notice of the similar parts and design. Im quite the tank geek so it would be useless arguing with me. Plus you sounded as if I were stupid.
@Flux27342 жыл бұрын
Had my best game, this year, yesterday. Playing in the ShPTK TVP. Did 5k and 10 kills. Got my first Kolobanov, and first Pools medal. Really wanted you to see my replay, but i cant upload it to Wotreplays :( seems like i cant upload replays featuring this tank. Are there some other ways you can watch my replay? :)
@Panzergraf2 жыл бұрын
C1B is basically a tier 9 Chieftain. Unlike the actual tier 9 Chieftain, which is a bag of potatos.
@gavintedder73002 жыл бұрын
Good content
@kristian1977 Жыл бұрын
How do you even get a KPZ 50t? can't find it in the tech tree
@kwkfortythree3911 ай бұрын
You buy it for bonds in some of the shops.
@billygeorge48452 жыл бұрын
can i get the concept just by saving up? or did i need to play ranked to unlock it?
@titanium_13372 жыл бұрын
Needed to play ranked and go past the first division to unlock the shop in ranked mode
@ralts64642 жыл бұрын
I wonder if qb would go back to WoW
@mark-od5ky2 жыл бұрын
E75 is best tier 9 tank.
@invisible63322 жыл бұрын
Until the enemy loads HEAT...
@goldeneagleplaze63982 жыл бұрын
I got it last year or so as a battle pass tier 100 reward
@kyaer1gTV2 жыл бұрын
I'm 400 bonds short to buy concept or kpz, don't really know what I'm gonna get
@DarkSide-lr5rd2 жыл бұрын
why is the concept considered as the best tier 9 tank when it only has a "strong" turret which you can pen with gold most of the time (+turret is jammed all the time) and dont forget that sidescraping is impossible on it
@ToniFalck2 жыл бұрын
You overestimate the average player being able to outplay this tank
@UnhingedPookie2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if Quicky Baby will answer to this, but when will the next funny moments be coming out?
@stevepritchett65632 жыл бұрын
Of course he will not answer, he NEVER answers any comments. In fact, he probably doesn't even read them. Why do you think a lot of other content creators dislike him.
@UnhingedPookie2 жыл бұрын
@@stevepritchett6563 ig...
@bcdushman2 жыл бұрын
Excellent point on why give only exceptional players a limited over the top tank? Too get new players to wonder why they are grinding? To get old players to fume about the usually poor MM partially caused by things like this? To make old time not the best players like me to try to find another game to fill my gaming needs? All seem to be happening..
@lukefriesenhahn81862 жыл бұрын
Btw Ouickybaby, would you mind doing a video on the best Tech Tree tier 9? And the same for 8 and 7? I'm sorry for asking, but I just don't know. Best regards, Luke Friesenhahn.
@jaybass97152 жыл бұрын
He did already
@kelvisshandei2 жыл бұрын
Best T7 (most popular)T29 ,Tiger 1 Best T8 (Techtree) Pantera,T44,Carvaron,T32
@Skerrry2 жыл бұрын
You can look at the statistics yourself too to at least get a little bit better understanding.
@lukefriesenhahn81862 жыл бұрын
@@Skerrry Thx for the feedback, it's just that I'm used to the stats on WoT Blitz, and don't play PC/Xbox that often and the stats can be drastically different. Ive played WoT for over five years now and am a big fan.
@Skerrry2 жыл бұрын
@@lukefriesenhahn8186 I meant that you can find the PC stats :)
@drmutilated59342 жыл бұрын
I'm waiting for a rat to run through now
@RatluBoogerbag2 жыл бұрын
I'm really tempted by the Kpz, but I don't want to spend currency and then WG add something better.
@eesti9192 жыл бұрын
Currency? It was available for bonds.
@RatluBoogerbag2 жыл бұрын
@@eesti919 Bonds are a currency within the game
@neilwilliams46843 ай бұрын
@@RatluBoogerbag A free currency. The best kind 🙂
@GeneralulTouareg2 жыл бұрын
After ranked ended i bought the KPZ with a discount for around 10k but only recently massed enough bonds again for the Concept and yes, they are indeed the best tier 9's in the game :)
@lexafram2 жыл бұрын
Sorry quickybaby, but the best tier 9 tanks is the love of my life, the T-10 ❤
@davidreitzer54712 жыл бұрын
WG wondering why their players numbers are dropping... lol
@jerodtrexler81982 жыл бұрын
So surprised its two non-tech tree tanks kapp
@PhilipKerry2 жыл бұрын
I've got both and I think I got them from Xmas loot Boxes , I certainly didn't get them from Clan related stuff or Ranked .
@davidmacdonald16952 жыл бұрын
You are mistaken. They have never been loot box tanks.
@PhilipKerry2 жыл бұрын
@@davidmacdonald1695 Well I must have stolen them then because I don't play Ranked or clan battles ...........
@marco0022 жыл бұрын
@@PhilipKerry kpz and concept were only available from ranked so either you are lying or you are not the only 1 who is playing with your account
@PhilipKerry2 жыл бұрын
@@marco002 I give up .......NO ONE ELSE IS PLAYINF WITH MY ACCOUNT !!!!!!! I definitely got the concept in the last set of loot boxes but i can't remember how i got the other .
@PhilipKerry2 жыл бұрын
@@marco002 I've just realised I got them both from the Bond Store , if you google it you will see that they were available for bonds , I don't know if they are still available now .
@SWJohnny4all2 жыл бұрын
Concept 1B is overrated. Kpz 50t on the other hand is very strong.
@lazygamez72802 жыл бұрын
For me both of those tanks suck for some reason. I am performing way better in other tanks. Yes i know they have good guns but for me they dont work even with good equipment. I prefer conq yo concept and t 55a to kpz
@yonyon86702 жыл бұрын
Every player are different in term of set up also the info is base on WR of the specific tank which i agreed on being a better t9 than the rest.
@SWJohnny4all2 жыл бұрын
@@yonyon8670 because most of the players that have it are above average in general, thus the high winrate. Make it available like ae phase 1 for example(which is a better tank for me) and you will see the winrate drop by a significant margin. I'm not saying the tank is not good, but it's overrated for sure.
@radekdusicka11142 жыл бұрын
Hell no xD this tank is best heavy on tier 9. It does everything and it does it way above average, 50km/h top speed, good gun and dpm, good frontal turret armor and 10* gun depression. This tank is best tier 9 heavy without a doubt.
@lazygamez72802 жыл бұрын
@@radekdusicka1114 yea yea yea you can say that all but the fact the gun is super trollish still stands
@TheBeastsHere2 жыл бұрын
On console the AE is better than the Concept since the Concept has a whopping 13 second reload on console.
@HOWBOWDAT2 жыл бұрын
bro e75 is up there also.
@tonyhancox36572 жыл бұрын
No random, no balance and a matchmaker for premium tanks.
@christianhohne57472 жыл бұрын
If im not wrong KPZ has nearly the same camo rate as an udes15/16 😇
@Lukvader92 жыл бұрын
Concept 1B is just a quicker version of AE Phase1, a bit overrated tank but I bought it anyway because I want it.
@jordanleigh81192 жыл бұрын
I think cobra is the best once you learn to play it. Its really over powered
@Springfield-19032 жыл бұрын
"Sea Nario" blah blah blah "Sea Nario" blah blah "Sea Nario" Blah "Sea Nario" In this scenario QB manages to use the word scenario enough that it makes the enemy tanks nervous about their own scenario.
@davysauseslayer12942 жыл бұрын
now this tank but with exp equipment
@ac-grimm5392 жыл бұрын
Have both the ae and the concept. And in my opinion the ae has more reliable armor overall. And gun handling is better.
@teddyhansen91782 жыл бұрын
as always its for the best players
@x-uca74652 жыл бұрын
T30 underrated
@Derploop2 жыл бұрын
Concept 100000 Bonds and Kampfpanzer 50t rillion bonds
@weegee0112 жыл бұрын
I regret buying my Concept 1B
@stevebaker66982 жыл бұрын
Great to bad us average players do not have access. But if it wasn't for us avg players there would not be any super players
@jihle12 жыл бұрын
I only wish i had teams like you, instead of having red line rednecks game after game for past 2-3 weeks lol
@pcl892 жыл бұрын
Match 1: I would get so frustrated over players like the E3, WZ and the pta. Buuuut... Youre able to carry 3 non-participating players, i'm not. Maybe thats the frustrating Part :)
@chiefkikyerass71882 жыл бұрын
The T10 is way better than the 1B..and the Obj 257 is better than the kzpt50.....but the TORTOIS IS STILL TIER 9 KING...Fact
@CesarSanchez-vk4ei2 жыл бұрын
The Kpz got nerfed, I get hit on my modules or lose a crew member on almost every hit I take after 6 months ago, it used to be amazing, but WG did a hidden nerf to the only amazing German tank.
@TheArmouredArmadillo2 жыл бұрын
I mean it's still amazing, still op
@dennisbell52512 жыл бұрын
hahaha, that Russian math at the end of your second battle. CC's need to callout WG on fixing the credit payouts, it does affect how players play win or lose.
@ryanbeatty16292 жыл бұрын
Hey quicky!!! Join jacksepticeye and others on December 10th for merry thankmas!!! Would love to see it!
@atanubasu13192 жыл бұрын
Sadly both the best tier 9 tanks are Premium tanks. No chance for the regular tanks.
@jjrdias2 жыл бұрын
I'm starting to think Wg doesn't want ANY new players in WoT. I'm one, and I just feel like I'm wasting my time, also because I'm DEFINITELY not gonna spend my way into being "competitive".
@Zuze12212 жыл бұрын
Problem is, old players need something new, so they need to put new stuff in, but new players have too much to go through. At least new players get training missions (don't remember how that program is called) and get t6 tank for free + bonus if they are recruits. Time to time you can get free prem days, gold and blueprints that help a lot. When I started to play, it was only grind. If you wanted to use gold ammo (could only get for gold, no credits), you had to put money in or play CW and clan gives you gold. So, from my experience it is way easier to grind/play in Wot than it used to be. What I agree with QB is that there are some tanks which are almost impossible to get without putting a lot of time in game and they are way better than tech tree tanks.
@robinkhn25472 жыл бұрын
yeah if u are new, best advice is to quit. It will save u a whole lot of nerves as well as me, since then I don't have to deal with new players. Since WG doesnt care to implement a skillbased mm, all new players do is skew the skill-balance between the teams.
@La_Folgore2 жыл бұрын
@@robinkhn2547 The real problem aren't the new players playing the game but the fucktards with 30k + games and 700 less wn8, let him enjoy the game if he want to.
@Swellington_2 жыл бұрын
@@robinkhn2547 if you let a game get your nerves tore up that bad because a player with less experience than you has a bad game then you might need to have a talk with yourself, you know how many times I see guys with 50000,75000 and more, battles and be on the bottom of the stats after the battle? Happens all the time, it's a free game and it's on the internet so getting new players is always gonna be a thing, it's actually the thing that keeps the game going probably because they are probably gonna spend more money than someone who has been playing forever and doesn't want or need to spend money, that's just part of online gaming, and always will be, you were once a new player
@Geeza-rc9kz2 жыл бұрын
I think it's good that the decent players get nice rewards to make their gaming more fun. Getting something for putting the effort in... And I'm a terrible player with around 10 years experience 🤣🤣🤣😂
@NoLandGod2 жыл бұрын
Kpz 50t on wot blitz is nothing compared to the pc version
@erikmattson8752 жыл бұрын
1 reason I quit playing regularly years ago, the shitty lack of balance they started dumping into the game and how only the better players can benefit from it, as if they need the extra boost, speaking of extra boost the insane amount of boosting shit they put in the game makes the game very unfair for us who can't play very often, and as you've shown recently they aren't done adding boosting shit, the game used to be much more methodical and strategic, that was when this game was good, now and I'll use Claus Kellermans words, "Its a shit show"
@jariheimoluoto49592 жыл бұрын
I dont think the concept is that good. If you know where to shoot or just have good gold ammo its not hard to deal with it. Its much more anoying to dig out a hulldown ae phase 1 than a concept 1b. Out of these two the kpz is far superior.
@GenHummel96 Жыл бұрын
Found out a week ago, that i managed to get as far in the ranked battles to be able to buy the Concept 1B für 20k bonds and i really like it (although i tend to overestimate my armor in some situations and the gun as well as the dpm can be trollish) 😊 Now i finally have a tier 9 heavy tank which absolutely matches my playstyle 👌 Now its the time to save up annother 10k bonds to be able to buy the Kpz. 50t - i think its a "must-have" as a german (and i usually prefer mediums over heavies)😅 Edit: FML, i am 5k Bonds away of Kpz 50t and WG removes the access to it 🤦♂️😮 WITHOUT ANNOUNCING IT! 😤
@g.donuts35512 жыл бұрын
I hear what you’re saying, and your comments are valuable, but I’m going to ignore your advice.
@syahareensharani68692 жыл бұрын
How about playing the very underrated tier 9 tech tree tank M46 Patton Centurion 7/1 Object 430 II Conway M103 (the old and the classic) VK 45.02 B Jagdtiger CS-59 IS-8 ST-1 AMX 30 WZ-120 WZ-111 1-4 WZ-111 G Ft (Also happy birthday to me)
@OrcaSpiderJay2 жыл бұрын
Isn't IS-8 the T-10?
@Rururudenko2 жыл бұрын
Hbd
@syahareensharani68692 жыл бұрын
Only very old veterans allowed to say the T-10 IS-8