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@smeghead6123
@smeghead6123 3 ай бұрын
What about the Panda. How could you be so cruel to miss it out.🐼
@tasneemchoudhury
@tasneemchoudhury 3 ай бұрын
The Panda Grande will feature in the 2025 video with the Kia EV3.
@SWR112
@SWR112 3 ай бұрын
@@tasneemchoudhuryAnd the Renault 5 retro. 👍
@AdrianoCasemiro
@AdrianoCasemiro 3 ай бұрын
Brazilian ev driver here. I'm driving a BYD Dolphin, the small one (44 kWh battery version). I've got a lot to praise about this one. It's solid, great range (for it's size, about 400km city, 300km on the road @ 120km/h). I already did some long trips and it delivers. Great little car.
@zzz-pe3mp
@zzz-pe3mp 3 ай бұрын
I've got the smaller battery dolphin in Australia, and likewise it's a great car - no issues so far, very comfortable.
@use-oc4mj6n
@use-oc4mj6n 3 ай бұрын
BYD's vertical integrated manufacturing process ensures that quality of the components is maintained throughout the production process of the automobile
@anobium2000
@anobium2000 3 ай бұрын
Good video and good to see "affordable" EV's starting to appear. A lot of reviewers class the smaller battery cars as city cars, but very few look at these cars from another viewpoint where there is a good use case scenario, and that is the rural runabout. As someone who now lives in rural North Wales (Anglesey) and is semi retired, the need for affordable personal transport is essential. My GP, village store and nearest bus stop are 1.5 miles away. A trolly dash round Lidl (other supermakets are available..) is a 14 mile round trip. My work commute to Bangor is a daily 38 mile round trip. That all represents about 90% of my car usage. I see many people in the area running around in Hyundai i10's, Suzuki swift/ Ignis, peugeot 107 ( also 205's & 206's), Toyota Aygo's etc. The bus service is patchy and taxis expensive. The nearest school is about 4-5 miles away. Young or old, personal transport is a necessity in this situation. I currently run a pre facelift MG5 and intend to keep it for many years, but when I do replace it, I will be looking downsize and replace with a practical runabout like the ones reviewed. While I'm typing this just thought I would say great channel, thouroughly enjoy the entertaining & informative content you produce. Thanks everyone.
@gordonmackenzie4512
@gordonmackenzie4512 3 ай бұрын
I just ordered a Renault Megane e tech techno +. 6 months old, 4000 miles, expensive optional paint job. Absolute bargain 😊 There are deals out there. Shop around.
@SWR112
@SWR112 3 ай бұрын
Yeah split new delivery miles MINI S electric list £39-43k sitting with 5-8k off if you look. One of the works sport kitted listed £43k sitting with 100 miles £35k.
@lm3718
@lm3718 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the upgrade in video quality - looks way more professional! Well done.
@stephsoltesz6731
@stephsoltesz6731 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the reviews of what's coming to UK. You ARE Fortunate ! Here in Canada, the 4th World of EV's we have NONE of these ! Not one single model. I REALLY Wish that Dacia would come here (come on Carlos buddy). Shame because of the Taildragging clay footers to the South of us...
@jamesvandamme7786
@jamesvandamme7786 2 ай бұрын
Highland Park and the RenCen are to the North of Canada, and Dearborn is just barely northwest. But yeah, they are doing a repeat of the 70's when they ignored cheap, efficient small cars that were flooding in from Japan. They could be importing many of these cars, or assemble them in the USA to get the rebates, but they choose to fiddle around until the Chinese build plants in Mexico. Then they will be screwed.
@PaulMeier-cu3ds
@PaulMeier-cu3ds 3 ай бұрын
Good to see a comparison review of cars people can probably afford. I like the Mazda MX30 in range extender version with the Wankel generator. Mazda priced them initially the same as the full EV version last year. You get good finance deals, though maybe not up to Tom’s most exacting standards. If you do not mind the suicide doors (I like them) then there is quite a lot of practical space in them. They also handle pleasantly but are not especially quick.
@Electrifyingcom
@Electrifyingcom 3 ай бұрын
Have a look at the review of the REx Mazda on the site - the sums just don't add up.
@PaulMeier-cu3ds
@PaulMeier-cu3ds 3 ай бұрын
​@@Electrifyingcom I read the review at the time. The argument essentially was that the energy efficiency/MPG was poor in comparison with competitors. Our Lec costs are close to zero because we have renewables so we do not care too much about lec efficiency at the sort of ranges we tend to drive. However the occasional inefficient use of the Wankel generator does not matter because we do not do it very often, and is preferable to the occasional use of expensive smart charging which might take thirty minutes. That Mazda is entirely practical for our use case.
@carly-beatz-DJ
@carly-beatz-DJ 3 ай бұрын
That Renault 5 is now my dream car. Really loving this channel! You guys are hilarious.
@mst4314
@mst4314 3 ай бұрын
2 year old kona can be had for around 16k now. Very hard to beat that kind of deal
@cameronashton7150
@cameronashton7150 3 ай бұрын
Like the look of the ID2 as it looks like a 'normal' car rather than the space-age designs of electric vehicles. Looking like a Polo could be a huge selling point for the grandparents in Suburbia.
@stevenbarrett7648
@stevenbarrett7648 3 ай бұрын
by the time it arrives, if at all it will have been superceeded by more modern vehicles for far less money
@BBingo-v5i
@BBingo-v5i 3 ай бұрын
​​@@stevenbarrett7648 no, absolutely not. Cupra Raval, which is based on the same platform as the Volkwagen ID.2 will start at the end of 2025. ID. 2 follows early 2026. The MEB+ (mini) cars will be the best from a technology standpoint in this class (sub-compact EVs).
@Hali88
@Hali88 2 ай бұрын
yeh, it looks like what it is - a hatchback, not a hatchback crossover pretending to be an SUV like most cars these days, I for one like it, along with the Renault 5.
@AlanTov
@AlanTov 3 ай бұрын
Cant wait for ID2. It should be a massive success looking at the prototype.
@ISuperTed
@ISuperTed 3 ай бұрын
Hasn’t it been put back by VW to 2027?
@davidcolin6519
@davidcolin6519 3 ай бұрын
Really? I think it looks really, really boring. Oh, and it's sure to have a black interior...
@crestas9
@crestas9 2 ай бұрын
@@ISuperTedprobably gonna be 2028 anyways.
@Commentator541
@Commentator541 2 ай бұрын
If they get the price right, and seeing their current pricing and them being preoccupied with smelling their own farts, it will not be under 30K. VW has lost the plot. I do love how well packaged the prototype is, huge back seat, huge boot, and in a car the size of a Polo.
@davidcolin6519
@davidcolin6519 2 ай бұрын
@@Commentator541 There's even doubt as to whether the company can survive the next 2 years, let alone launch another model.
@bamber119
@bamber119 3 ай бұрын
Agree on the leaf, got a 21 plate n-connecta with less than 30k on the clock for 10k at the dealer. home charger the way to go for 100 mile per day commuting.
@usaverageguy
@usaverageguy 3 ай бұрын
With the exception of the Fisker Ocean. Not one of these cars are available in the US. And that explains why we are so far behind Europe in EV adoption.
@itekani
@itekani 3 ай бұрын
Not really, since they are not available in Europe either. Well the Leaf and the MX-30 is, but they are in the US too? I saw Kyle Connor review the Honda. But for sure you will be even more behind when the new cheap models become available here.
@robinspat
@robinspat 3 ай бұрын
See Norway
@BillyBanter100
@BillyBanter100 2 ай бұрын
Stay that way. EVs are a nightmare.
@robinspat
@robinspat 2 ай бұрын
@@BillyBanter100 You bought the wrong one and blame all Slow 👏👏👏👏👏
@usaverageguy
@usaverageguy 2 ай бұрын
@@BillyBanter100 I disagree. I switched to electric in 2015. The driving experience is better and the cost of operating the cars is much less than ICE. Long trips are a bit slower. We are driving 970 miles to Texas next week. It will add about one hour to the trip.
@BryanJackson-vy6ss
@BryanJackson-vy6ss 3 ай бұрын
CHAdeMO to CCS converter now available Tom!
@InBodWeTrust
@InBodWeTrust 3 ай бұрын
Yes ... if you have a spare grand lying around. 😉
@bmc8195
@bmc8195 3 ай бұрын
Do you know whether they're any good?
@InBodWeTrust
@InBodWeTrust 3 ай бұрын
@@bmc8195 no idea mate, sorry
@BryanJackson-vy6ss
@BryanJackson-vy6ss 3 ай бұрын
@@bmc8195 Spotted them on KZbin, reviews appeared positive.
@chunkybeats79
@chunkybeats79 2 ай бұрын
They appear to be very well supported with software update. The price will go down as it's relatively new tech. My next car is going to be a Leaf as an owner of a Nissan Note e-power (you guys in blighty don't get it and are seriously missing out) I'm ready for the EV jump.
@vidpetrovic8907
@vidpetrovic8907 3 ай бұрын
I think you should start looking at efficiency also, because while electricity is cheap, it can still cost a lot more on some cars if they consume more, than on others.
@CarlosFandango1975
@CarlosFandango1975 3 ай бұрын
Real world efficiency is what we want to know. What the cars computer says as the miles/kwh over a few months or years. The range of efficiency can be massive depending how you drive it, the same as an engined car. Manufacturer states 5 miles/kwh but for your real world use the computer averages 3.5 so you’ve lost 30% of your range.
@CampGareth
@CampGareth 3 ай бұрын
​@simonwhitcombe841 I want manufacturers to publish miles per kwh for each phase of the WLTP test. The extra high phase is a good estimate for motorway driving efficiency. Then people can figure it out for themselves.
@CarlosFandango1975
@CarlosFandango1975 3 ай бұрын
@@CampGareth very true. My twice daily school run is a mixture of in town stop start 30, 40 and 10 minutes of 70mph dual carriageway so that’s my real world driving. It’s different for everyone.
@jamesvandamme7786
@jamesvandamme7786 2 ай бұрын
Efficiency has a big impact on battery size, weight, cost, and range,
@jeffmcc75
@jeffmcc75 2 ай бұрын
It would be great to see a video on nearly new electric vehicles. Theres now a huge range of nearly new EV's that are about a year old with 5k - 10k miles and are maybe £10K cheaper than brand new. Some great savings to be made!
@Hali88
@Hali88 2 ай бұрын
yep but we need suckers, sorry, people, to keep buying the new ones to keep the used prices falling
@lastfour
@lastfour 3 ай бұрын
Renault 5 is gorgeous.
@raycheshire5581
@raycheshire5581 2 ай бұрын
Informative I like the look of the eC3 and the Insta (Suzuki Ignis vibes anyone???). Slight aside, what happened to the audio (I was listening through headphones). Perhaps the size of the room was causing an issue now and then?
@eddewhurst7662
@eddewhurst7662 3 ай бұрын
Just bought a 2.5 year old Kia EV6 for 24k still has 4.5 year warranty. Battery still 100%. I traded in a Kia Sorento by the time my EV6 is as old as my Sorento I expect to have saved 9K on fuel. If I bought a warranty for the Sorento for 4.5 years that would cost me 3K so by the time the EV6 is as old as my Sorrento was it will have effectively cost me nothing. No brainer! Love driving the EV6!
@use-oc4mj6n
@use-oc4mj6n 2 ай бұрын
Yes, it will be a no brainer when you find it's worth less than £5k in three years time 😂😂😂
@eddewhurst7662
@eddewhurst7662 2 ай бұрын
Even if it was worth zero would still be a bargain, costing about 2k a year in depreciation exceedingly cheap for such a brilliant car. If it was only worth 5k I would have to keep it and run it for another hundred thousand miles saving myself about 30k which it would cost me to run an equivalent ice car.
@GlenGriffiths-i7n
@GlenGriffiths-i7n 3 ай бұрын
You don’t seem to promote the economy (running costs) of EVs .. I run an ID3 and 50 miles costs about a pound, overnight on Octopus
@Shane-ln5zz
@Shane-ln5zz 3 ай бұрын
Same in Ireland , I run a Skoda enyaq and can go the same 50 miles on 75 cent ( 6.7 cent per kWh) , the savings are massive just so much bad press being put out there about ecars
@jamesengland7461
@jamesengland7461 3 ай бұрын
I think this is assumed to be obvious
@yingmustang67
@yingmustang67 3 ай бұрын
Oh yes, don't forget about the huge depreciation cost as well! Let's be honest! 😂 I hate that fact cause I luv my Kia e Niro!
@keithhooper6123
@keithhooper6123 3 ай бұрын
Maybe,but how much did the car cost,and if it lasts ten years, what will it be worth?
@yingmustang67
@yingmustang67 3 ай бұрын
@@keithhooper6123 Yes now you hit it on the right spot, If you have your EV at least 5 years or longer like you mentioned it, definitely Right! Totale owner cost are quite low, and if you have home charging with Solar panels you are cheaping to the max! Depreciation after 10 years are minimum...
@stevejordan4299
@stevejordan4299 3 ай бұрын
You mentioned that you can get a cheap Nissan leaf, but on auto trader you can get a new MG4 for £19,945 and the trophy for £22,775.
@stephenwensley9328
@stephenwensley9328 3 ай бұрын
The bargains that are starting to get my attention are the leading deals on VW ID7s that are starting to appear. Very tempting at £260-310pm compared to everything else in that price range
@ISuperTed
@ISuperTed 3 ай бұрын
Those prices are for 5,000 miles a year and 9 months up front. If you put the mileage up to a reasonable 10,000 it rockets the price up. Read the small print.
@narvuntien
@narvuntien 3 ай бұрын
Trying to convince my aunt to get the Inster but she hates the look of it, so might be waiting for the undeiably beautiful Renault 5 instead (or the even more affordable BYD Seagull). She doesn't drive much and massively over produces power from her solar panels.
@themusiqfreak
@themusiqfreak 3 ай бұрын
I am most excited by the Renault 5 and the Fiat Panda so far. I’m surprised the Panda wasn’t in your list, unless that means bad news for the price we can expect for it.
@dandantheideasman
@dandantheideasman 3 ай бұрын
Great round up. Would love to have a dabble at the Fisker - think there is some serious potential for a retro fit at that price. 🤔 I mean, you can convert an I.C.E to electric, so why not start with an electric. 🤓 Also, think VW should reconsider the ID2 and bring out a GOlf GTe, they would fly out the yard, if they do it right - no handles, clean lines, tidy spoiler and skirts kit, bucket seats - you know, cater to their established audience. 🚘 Really enjoy this episode, thank you all 🙏
@ashtaroth1975
@ashtaroth1975 3 ай бұрын
There are CCS to chademo adapters, at the prices the Leaf is now i will buy one
@use-oc4mj6n
@use-oc4mj6n 3 ай бұрын
Leaf is a dead duck with old battery tech. Plenty of better options out there with larger batteries
@davidcolin6519
@davidcolin6519 3 ай бұрын
@@use-oc4mj6n Yup. I'd agree with you on the battery tech. When liquid cooled batteries can run for hundreds of thousands of km, an air cooled battery that's going to cost you about 5+K to replace would have me running away, especially when an LFP battery in the MG4 gets you virtually limitless charging potential.
@10rGreenninja
@10rGreenninja 3 ай бұрын
The only one you mentioned there that possibly interests me is the R5 EV, now that looks good
@Jaw0lf
@Jaw0lf 2 ай бұрын
Sub £20,000 EV's with 200 mile range will be a great purchase for many people. Great to see more deals and smaller EV's are getting seen now.
@jamesvandamme7786
@jamesvandamme7786 2 ай бұрын
If they could build a small EV for $25K in the USA, and get $7500 incentive off of that (or more), the roads would be full of them. But we wait ..........and wait............and wait......
@bmc8195
@bmc8195 3 ай бұрын
You bring up the CHAdeMO question at about 14:10. I've seen CCS to CHAdeMO adapters on Amazon and elsewhere. Do they actually work? And are they safe?
@Trashed20659
@Trashed20659 3 ай бұрын
Gotta be 300+ miles in US. Though it is shifting now to "Charge anxiety" from "range anxiety".
@MrDaveb1979
@MrDaveb1979 3 ай бұрын
Spotted a fisker ocean in a retail park in Sunderland actually looks pretty good shame the company hasn’t been snapped up by bigger company as it seems better put together than many EV attempts by a lot of the OG companies.
@jamesvandamme7786
@jamesvandamme7786 2 ай бұрын
Build quality and software has had BIG problems.
@pauld7827
@pauld7827 3 ай бұрын
My mate has the MG 4, for the money it's brilliant! I have an MG ZS and they are offering silly discounts, I think they are going to bring a new model in.
@benrgrogan
@benrgrogan 2 ай бұрын
Yep new model at the start of next year apparently. It's being tested around Europe at the moment
@fyve4321
@fyve4321 3 ай бұрын
Hated the Leaf when I tested it a few years ago. Limited range, slower charging, analogue speedo, they're all a bit subjective. What killed it for me was sitting in the back seat. I'm a bit over 6ft tall and I could only see a bit of the bonnet out front, not the road, not where we were going. To me that's a stupid decision for what is billed as a family car.
@robertd-dh8qm
@robertd-dh8qm 3 ай бұрын
Brilliant as always. Keep up the good work everyone.👍🤗
@WalesBitcoin
@WalesBitcoin 2 ай бұрын
Waiting for the Inster 🔥
@bst1623
@bst1623 3 ай бұрын
If I knew the right people, I'd buy a Fisker... Take.the battery out and power my house. Make fun and quirky furniture from some other bits!
@eliocastro9292
@eliocastro9292 2 ай бұрын
Loved this one! Please make some more!! :)
@jamesvandamme7786
@jamesvandamme7786 2 ай бұрын
Do a USA version. It would be REAL short.
@ellisrochlin2267
@ellisrochlin2267 Ай бұрын
Releasing a ev in a al new 24 car with a 100 and a bit mile range isnt what the buyer wants going forward.
@robstergodsafakemclean1363
@robstergodsafakemclean1363 3 ай бұрын
EV's seem expensive compared to here in Oz. The MG4 'Excite 51', their bottom of the range model is $34,000 aud with onroads included, that's about twenty thousand British pounds.
@PaulDee-k4p
@PaulDee-k4p 3 ай бұрын
What would it cost to buy battery storage the same size as the Fisker battery pack ? It's worth it for cheap home battery repurposing alone.
@mdeflyer
@mdeflyer 2 ай бұрын
I’d like to see reviews of electric cars expanded a little from just what they’re like as cars, to more how much money they’d could save you save you when comparing what technology like V2G they have. Maybe a use for the Fisker as at that price it’s nearly cheaper than 2 Tesla power walls.
@PJRye
@PJRye 3 ай бұрын
The MG4 price in Australia starts $37,990 (about 19600 pounds) for the base version. Why is the UK price over 7000 pounds more?
@benrgrogan
@benrgrogan 2 ай бұрын
I may be miss remembering but isn't the Australian price pre-tax? I do know cars from Asia are generally cheaper in Australia
@PJRye
@PJRye 2 ай бұрын
Australian prices include tax - required by law.
@buzzofftoxicblog791
@buzzofftoxicblog791 3 ай бұрын
❤😊 so good to see 😊 I think my personal favourite was the Nissan little quadricycle ... however, I would like one with a little bit more oomph 😂 ...
@mikadavies660
@mikadavies660 3 ай бұрын
I believe that even suggesting the Fisker is highly irresponsible. It has zero residual value ... We Buy Any Car etc will refuse to buy one from you. So you are suggesting the British public throw £22k down the toilet on a car that has no warranty and no dealer back. Sorry... But shame on you!
@Stewiedude1
@Stewiedude1 3 ай бұрын
Let alone the high likelihood you won't be able to get insurance on it. Rendering it a 22k lawn ornament.
@use-oc4mj6n
@use-oc4mj6n 3 ай бұрын
Some of the views of the presenters are a bit odd at times 😂
@CarlosFandango1975
@CarlosFandango1975 3 ай бұрын
If there’s a market in supplying fisker parts then someone will rally round the original suppliers and sell oem parts. Most Classic cars, discontinued models etc have oem parts cheaply supplied these days. It’s the technology side of it I’d be more worried about.
@joolsmorgan7032
@joolsmorgan7032 3 ай бұрын
They made it perfectly clear that there is a whole host of issues, warranty, repairs, parts etc if you bought one. The fact remains they are available to buy.
@oliverstemp9132
@oliverstemp9132 2 ай бұрын
@@CarlosFandango1975there won’t be a market. Fisker Ocean was only on sale for a few months.
@mikec1176
@mikec1176 2 ай бұрын
What are your thoughts on the Fiat Grande Panda, and also another quadricycle the Microlino? I’d have liked you to have included both. I think the Renault 5 will remain top of my electric car wish list though.
@michaelbacon561
@michaelbacon561 3 ай бұрын
Re. the prospective NCAP rating for the Spring - just forget it. IMO, NCAP is quite discredited; it has moved the goal posts so often and is now taken to demanding a plethora of electronic so-called safety systems which most drivers find annoying at best or, paradoxically, dangerous at worse. They are making smaller cars unaffordable when most drivers just want to switch the wretched things off. What a waste of money! NCAP should go back to just concentrating on structural integrity where I'm sure the Spring will do OK. Dacia seems to have a healthy disregard for NCAP's misguided requirements, and fits only what is legally required, but sadly NCAP seems to have the ears of ignorant legislators who will eventually demand that more of these devices be compulsory.
@paultasker7788
@paultasker7788 Ай бұрын
Couldn't agree more. Heard far too many tales when these things have nearly caused an accident. Luckily my golf 7.5 only has a warning beep for collision avoidance and doesn't actually do anything. Adaptive cruise is fine without trying to recognise the speed limit itself which it can't. No worries about it slamming on the brakes because it thinks you're in a 70kmh zone instead of 70mph. And proper controls for stereo and ventilation. If NCAP tested it now probably get 1 or 0 stars😂 Given distraction causes accident NCAP should drop a star for each control that requires looking at something and can't be done by feel alone.
@robsmith1a
@robsmith1a 3 ай бұрын
I did see a review of a CCS to Chademo adapter which may save the Leaf and Lexus UX in years to come. I think it was pretty expensive though
@ISuperTed
@ISuperTed 3 ай бұрын
I need to choose a new company EV to replace my Eugenia e208 around March/April next year. Hoping there will be a number of new small and cheap EV’s to choose from like the e-C3, Renault 5, Panda etc, but will they be out by then?
@michaeledwards8079
@michaeledwards8079 3 ай бұрын
for the money comparing the spring to the leaf, I know which one I prefer and now that chademo adapters are available the leaf is a very good buy
@christianp4158
@christianp4158 2 ай бұрын
I'm still waiting 4 the cupra urban rebel.... Wish U a nice Weekend and im waiting also 4 the video 4 the inster....
@andrewmullen4003
@andrewmullen4003 3 ай бұрын
I've had to go for an MG3+ due to inability to home charge, really upset, had already ordered my Cupra Born, alas, another hybrid for me.
@andrewrobinson9497
@andrewrobinson9497 3 ай бұрын
i saw a fisker ocean last week travelling on the A5 Tamworth, First time i'd seen one in the flesh.
@SWR112
@SWR112 3 ай бұрын
I’ll tell you when it arrives….. when the split new MINI ELECTRIC isn’t over £30k for the most basic model we are getting there. Fingers crossed for the new Renault 5 retro that is does £25k. We will see. It’s the one I’m excited about and we are taking a household that has had five MINI’s two currently on the drive ordered split new but kept longer. If they deliver on price and range and I never thought I’d think about a Renault.
@andrewpalmer999
@andrewpalmer999 3 ай бұрын
My wife drives a Fiat 500E and it doesn't make the 'sad clown' noise. I'm not sure if I'm disappointed or not, are we missing something?! Hers is the La Prima model so maybe one of the extras is the removal of the sad clown. It does play a sort of tune outside when it moves off, presumably to alert pedestrians.
@BMWHP2
@BMWHP2 3 ай бұрын
Yeahh. 🤗🤗🤗🤗 . . I am not going to say it. . . . nope. .. not, ahhh ok, my favorite EV fun program . btw, the Citroën ë-C3 and the Frontera have 83 kW (=113 PS). Not much more, but more than 111hp :) And the best EV of the lot, would be the EV that has the specs from the ë-C3 Max and the looks of the Renault 5 😁. Nope, no Fisker for us. And I missed the Fiat Grande Panda.
@amandafranklin6285
@amandafranklin6285 3 ай бұрын
On my MX30 REV (which is basically an MX30 with an even smaller battery and range extender rotary), I’m getting north of 4.5miles/kwh and I get 36KW from IONITY. I think the slow charging mentioned is a thing of the past as is the poor efficiency. Beautiful to drive, lovely finish. I think the MX30 with the 6k deposit is a bargain - currently thinking about one of those as a second car!
@gatehanger1385
@gatehanger1385 22 күн бұрын
Alexei Sayle.. Nice one!
@yingmustang67
@yingmustang67 3 ай бұрын
The Best cheap affordable EV must be the Hyundai Inster! Small EV in a "big" package! Ginny had a early preview about it! ❤
@Koulis_
@Koulis_ 3 ай бұрын
The Silence looks interesting but what would the battery thermal management be like? Is it air cooled and, if so, would there be quick degradation of the batteries? I guess the upside is that they would be easier to replace as they just come out for charging.
@woody1569
@woody1569 3 ай бұрын
You can all ways buy two fiskers at that price and use one as spares.
@kevinbullas2328
@kevinbullas2328 3 ай бұрын
I’ve been waiting for this for sooooooooo looooong….😁👏🏻
@SimonJHudson
@SimonJHudson 3 ай бұрын
Dacia Spring. 45hp doesn't sound like much, but I have a 1985 Austin Mini. It only has 40hp. But it's fun, and quick, and responsive (and admittedly a bit lighter, but not much). You really don't need a lot of power most of the time, fun though it is.
@kerryjones1508
@kerryjones1508 2 ай бұрын
Not much? Over 1000kg vs around 600kg.
@SimonJHudson
@SimonJHudson 2 ай бұрын
@@kerryjones1508 I'm not sure where you got your numbers. My Mini weighs in at 620kg. The Spring is a little under a tonne (970kg). As I say, a bit more. In terms of torque, the Mini has 68 Nm Vs the Spring's 125 Nm, so the Spring should be a bit sprightlier as a result
@paultasker7788
@paultasker7788 Ай бұрын
​@@SimonJHudsonThat weight difference is the same as putting 3 obese adults in your mini! It's not a small difference.
@SimonJHudson
@SimonJHudson Ай бұрын
@@paultasker7788 yes it is. Not that I could get any obese adults in the Mini😁 The torque more than compensates for the weight difference at the low speeds we are talking about. However, that's not the point, is it. We are talking about a perfectly adequate amount of power for a fun, inexpensive town car that costs buttons to drive. If you want a performance car, regardless of energy type, then you will be paying twice as much. I have one of those too; it's an absolute joy to drive; however I SORN'd it this very morning since I can't justify keeping it on the road through winter.
@nealeburgess6756
@nealeburgess6756 3 ай бұрын
Tom, 111 hp is not enough?? Why not? My current car, which recently went on a trip to the French Alps, has only 50 hp. It did amazingly well, and I thoroughly enjoyed driving it (1983 Ford Escort 1.1 L Mk 3). I even did a fair bit of overtaking in it. You are supposed to be looking at inexpensive cars. Get realistic with your expectations.
@gomez583
@gomez583 2 ай бұрын
The electric car is probably 3 to 4 times heavier
@ians3328
@ians3328 3 ай бұрын
Amazed no company has bought Fisker
@ohyesitsme
@ohyesitsme 3 ай бұрын
Don't forget to mention that the Dacia Spring is a Chinese car manufactured by DongFeng
@yingmustang67
@yingmustang67 3 ай бұрын
Dacia spring is rubbish! Why: it doesn't have regenbreaking! What the fuzz? An EV that doesn't have a regenbreaking is like a plugging hybride never use you batteries to charge, only gasoline to drive......😂
@keithhooper6123
@keithhooper6123 3 ай бұрын
You can't possibly prove that, as it's not even on the UK roads, as yet.
@use-oc4mj6n
@use-oc4mj6n 3 ай бұрын
Probably so is your phone and most of the items in your home 😂
@CJMVector321190
@CJMVector321190 3 ай бұрын
The Dacia does a job, local city miles. Compact. Not everyone wants to pay £100s pcm for a car. Polestar Chinese every piece of crap you buy is Chinese build and shipped. Seems EVs magically float to market. No oil and gas no building EVs or shipping.
@Electrifyingcom
@Electrifyingcom 3 ай бұрын
@@yingmustang67 The new Spring has regen.
@mikadavies660
@mikadavies660 3 ай бұрын
Sadly the Mokka is too small, but I love the metallic green colour.
@davidcolin6519
@davidcolin6519 3 ай бұрын
Silence are gaining serious traction in Spain, but it seems that their scooters are the ones that are really selling. You see them all over the place.
@jnksgb
@jnksgb 3 ай бұрын
Vauxhall’s interiors are so drab though!
@joolsmorgan7032
@joolsmorgan7032 3 ай бұрын
I had a Mokka e and loved it. 25,000 miles driven with no issues, interior is well put together in my opinion. Only issue was the range (160 miles in summer) which ultimately made me change it.
@mikadavies660
@mikadavies660 3 ай бұрын
I have no issues with the Stellantis models with around 150bhp as a family runabout.. but I really think that 110bhp is too low.
@jamesvandamme7786
@jamesvandamme7786 2 ай бұрын
It's different from an ICE car, with their multiple gears. Low end torque better than a diesel, and smooth acceleration.
@mikadavies660
@mikadavies660 2 ай бұрын
@@jamesvandamme7786 Your assuming that I haven't driven an EV. Yet my first EV was 2015. Plus I currently own a Citroen E-C4 with 150bhp. I still think a "family car" needs more than 110bhp, especially when it's full with the family.
@dynamotightstar3472
@dynamotightstar3472 Ай бұрын
I'd take the Fisker any day. Take out a decent warranty or insurance policy and worry no more.
@markfiddy395
@markfiddy395 3 ай бұрын
No one mentions the MG ZS EV anymore? Some dealers offering the 72 kw/hr battery version brand new at £25k
@use-oc4mj6n
@use-oc4mj6n 3 ай бұрын
A new EV version is around the corner and it will be based on the MG4.
@michalklucz6907
@michalklucz6907 2 ай бұрын
if VTG is an option then Fisker Ocean may be the cheapest energy storage on the market (and a mobile one - at least in theory).
@sickb0y333
@sickb0y333 3 ай бұрын
MX 30 guys.. used.. high spec. Cheap.. can’t beat it
@philipgrice1026
@philipgrice1026 3 ай бұрын
The Fisker Ocean is a $25,000 car that was being sold for too much. I'd buy one at that price were Fisker still solvent. But they 'ain't, so I won't. Please, please, please Renault, sell the R5 in the USA! And don't lard it up with unnecessary features for the corpulent Americans. Bring it just as it is now!
@davidcooper5933
@davidcooper5933 3 ай бұрын
I'm getting excited as the prices come down, but as a single man I have to have a car that 'does it all' even at these 'low' prices. I think they all work as a second car, but for me I fear that it will be a few years before the price/range come into alignment
@paultaroni7201
@paultaroni7201 2 ай бұрын
For me the price to purchase is irrelevant, and i suggest for the majority the same is true. The most relevant price is the lease price. The lease price does really change your options.
@dennisbuckley
@dennisbuckley 3 ай бұрын
Looking forward to my local UK Hyundai dealer getting its mitts on the Inster. If all the chatter proves legit and not hypy clickbait, I’d trade in my monster truck Tucson for one in a heartbeat ❤
@paultasker7788
@paultasker7788 Ай бұрын
Dacia Spring looks good value but i bet you can get 1 year old EVs for similar price that go further and are much better equipped. NCAP star rating is going to be poor if Dacia doesnt fit driver aids which 90 percent of people turn off anyway. But the driver crash rating will be interesting
@rogerfinch7651
@rogerfinch7651 3 ай бұрын
ID2 has missed the boat. I’ll swap my e golf for a Kia EV3 or Renault Scenic now 👍😉
@AlanTov
@AlanTov 3 ай бұрын
It's better VW get ID2 absolutely right rather than rushing out a half baked car like ID3 was at the start.
@BBingo-v5i
@BBingo-v5i 3 ай бұрын
Lol ID.2 is a different class than EV3 and Renault Scenic. Volkswagen for a long time has a compact EV on offer, the ID.3. If you want more of an SUV/Crossover shape the Skoda Elroq will be revealed very soon and even offers a bit more space than the EV3 or Scenic. Also the EV3 cost 11-12k more in its base than the ID.2.
@darrylredmill4376
@darrylredmill4376 2 ай бұрын
Love the green colour mokka
@treborkooc
@treborkooc Ай бұрын
Affordable family EV like the Dacia Jogger is desperately needed, hopefully they‘ll introduce this before 2028
@jonathantaylor1998
@jonathantaylor1998 3 ай бұрын
My kinda video - lots of bants about ever-cheaper EVs... Well done folks. 👍 Oh, but one slight correction, if I may...? Ginny's comment on the Silence S04, "... take the kids to school..." make that KID, in the singular...!! 🤣
@jeremylister89
@jeremylister89 3 ай бұрын
12 year old Leaf...£2,500. Yay! Range 35 miles..damn. It took me
@avtomad722
@avtomad722 3 ай бұрын
FIAT Grande Panda EV for me, good banter as always, you twats :-) Greetings from Oslo (I realise it wasn't an option, but it's won me)
@badfairy9554
@badfairy9554 3 ай бұрын
I love my Leaf.
@duncanbuchanan218
@duncanbuchanan218 3 ай бұрын
Only the Dacia Spring could be called cheap at the moment (made in China so what happens to the price with extra tarrifs in the EU will be interesting). Everything else EV is expensive at list price or last years spec being sold at heavy discount (that is where anyone buying needs to look). The Spring is genuinely small, but it is longer, wider and taller than the old Rover Metro so a practical small car. The eC3 is similar length and width as a current Corsa but quite a bit taller. A prctical compact car but it is £7,840 more expensive than the base C3 (just checked the web site). Until base versions of the EVs get below 19,000 list price EVs will struggle. The mandate in the UK is inflating the price of new ICE cars by taking cheap ICE cars off the new car market. Those cheap ICE cars are not being replaced with cheap small EVs. There is a long way to go before we see this market supply the diverse range of cars needed at the smaller cheaper end.
@tesla-spectre
@tesla-spectre 3 ай бұрын
What now? You suggest the Fisker Ocean? A car from a bancrupt company which is also highly unreliable, there is no maintenance for it, no warranty, nothing. Terrible software, no updates, no security and bug fixes, absolutely nothing. If you have one piece damaged that is considered crucial it will be written off as a total loss. Sorry but that is incredibly irresponsible. Most likely even no insurance company will insure it. So you suggest people to throw away 25000€ for basically a big stationary battery.
@Electrifyingcom
@Electrifyingcom 3 ай бұрын
Isn't that exactly what we said?
@tesla-spectre
@tesla-spectre 3 ай бұрын
@@Electrifyingcom your video is about the cheapest EVs and you even put that pithole for money on the last stop, often reserved for the best offer. it should not be on any list whatsoever... becauee it is an absolutely incalculable risk
@Yanquetino
@Yanquetino 3 ай бұрын
Tsk. You've proven the point that I keep repeating: you in Europe are so fortunate to have a huge variety of EVs to choose from. The only one of these "cheap" models that is available here is the LEAF. I do wish, however, that Hyundai would bring its Inster here. What a great little runabout!
@jeffg9706
@jeffg9706 2 ай бұрын
How are you forgetting that you can now buy a Chadamo to CCS adapter now that will make charging a Leaf just as easy as any of the others,
@etbadaboum
@etbadaboum 2 ай бұрын
There the two Leapmotor: the T03 and the C10!
@johnschofield1736
@johnschofield1736 Ай бұрын
Forgive my ignorance, but if I compare batteries to engines, I would never buy a car that needs a new engine every 10 years, also where the engine gets less efficient until it's replacement. So you need to charge them more as the car gets older. Can you persuade me that i am wrong?
@carlishiggins
@carlishiggins 2 ай бұрын
but ev insurance has sky rocketed
@12alocin
@12alocin 2 ай бұрын
SUSH,They want to keep that quiet.
@jamesvandamme7786
@jamesvandamme7786 2 ай бұрын
Shop around. All cars are higher to insure because the bumpers are full of radars and sensors.
@dapprman
@dapprman 3 ай бұрын
OK you threw me when you brought up the Fisker though I know it was really as a joke and warning, though you forgot to mention that if the 12v battery goes flat the car is bricked as it needs a Fisker engineer to come and re-enable it.
@paultasker7788
@paultasker7788 Ай бұрын
Why would anyone pay extra for the Vauxhall version of a stelantis car. No reason it should be more than the Citroen equivalent.
@andrewgage6942
@andrewgage6942 2 ай бұрын
What you call affordable is still out of the range of the average working class person, and the lowest don't do decent mileage, I would love to know where the researchers get their averages from, my average commute since starting work over 40 years ago has been a minimum of 40 miles round trip, I don't live out in the middle of nowhere, I live in a town where there's not a lot of employment, I live there because property prices were affordable, the payoff is lack of jobs, my current daily commute is 60 miles round trip, 54 miles of motorway driving and 6 miles of A road and town driving, i currently drive a 13 year old small diesel, big enough for my needs, easy to park in town, I bought my car as an ex demonstrator, I paid less than £8000, I paid cash, that's how I always pay for depreciating assets, now thats out of my range even with my earning more, the cost of living has gone up even more, a Dacia Spring starting at £14000 and only 150 miles of range, for someone who works an average 15 hour shift and no access to home charging, with 9 hours between shifts, waiting for the one solitary charger in town plus the parking charges, it doesn't do make sense to poor infrastructure, cost of charging, in many cases you also have to add on parking charges on top, for me to have a vehicle to cover my weekly mileage without charging during the week, I would be looking for a much bigger vehicle than I need and a bigger expense, when I look at what I paid for my house, some of these "affordable" cars cost more than I paid for my present home
@PhilAinsworth-qy4ns
@PhilAinsworth-qy4ns 2 ай бұрын
You say that you’d love to know where the researchers get their averages from. It comes from taking the average of a large sample size of the commute length of drivers. It sounds like your commute is slightly above average, but still short enough to operate a compact EV with a small battery and charge at home (even more so if you can charge at work). Happy to be of help 👍🏻
@andrewgage6942
@andrewgage6942 2 ай бұрын
@@PhilAinsworth-qy4ns thanks for your information, in the area where I live, as I previously mentioned, a small town, over three quarters of the working community commute more than 20 miles each way for work, where I currently work, 30 miles away, I'm not the furthest, everywhere I have worked in that area, the average commute is around 50/60 miles round trip for anyone, wherever I've worked, people have had a substantially longer commute than the suggested "average" to me it seems that they are surveying the average office workers in a small area of London or somewhere like that, not a national survey of all working class people. I also mentioned the lack of infrastructure, I live on a street where I don't have access to home charging, we have one working charge point in the town, parking fees to use said charger, around £5 an hour, I consider myself an average working person, I work an average 15 hour shift, so when I only get 9 hours between shifts, am I going to sacrifice my sleep to wait for the only working charge point to become available? I don't work in an office environment, the company I work for doesn't have charge points in the car park, most of us workers will never be able to afford even the lowest price electric vehicle, the average age of vehicle in the car park is 10+ years old, the reality is that we are heading back into recession, rents are high, property prices are through the roof and for those who own their own property, the mortgage repayment is high, the gas and electricity prices are rising, at present even £14000 is a huge price to pay for a vehicle that does around 150 miles range, I don't know what the average cost of electricity at a public charge point is and how it compares to the cost of conventional fuel, (petrol and diesel), or whether by using public charge points I could run a car 300 miles a week for less than £23 a week I currently pay to run my little diesel, being honest, I doubt it, parking charges alone will probably cost more than the £23 I pay for diesel. For many of us with our bought and paid for vehicles, to buy such an expensive depreciating asset in the current climate doesn't make sense, especially this part of the country where we definitely commute above the "average" mileage
@anthonybrown4874
@anthonybrown4874 2 ай бұрын
Didn't the original and very efficient Ioniq have a 28kwh battery so it's not novel in that sense the low ish new price is the news though a good used Ioniq is 10k which is the better deal?
@rickeaston8963
@rickeaston8963 3 ай бұрын
It's a pity that half of these aren't available yet... 2024 - not so much!
@chunkybeats79
@chunkybeats79 2 ай бұрын
Citroen RIP, they have just pulled out of the Aussie market. Renault also RIP here in NZ and Aussie. Chinese manufacturers are ruling the roost. Chery are going to beat everyone. They used to be the laughing stock but their Omoda series is going to be a big seller. Nissan Leaf is huge over here in NZ still.
@grayone321
@grayone321 3 ай бұрын
Liked the review a little bit rose tinted and I think pretty soon the govt has got to review its central position v the reality of the increasing lack of meeting the 2030 cliff edge.
@n1vca
@n1vca 3 ай бұрын
Volkswagen is completely ridiculous, forget them ... but the Hyundai Insta is a serious and affordable EV, I saw a Korean lady youtuber test driving the EV3 and the Insta ... she was really impressed ... it looks a bit like a clown car inside and out, but has some qualities that other serious cars are only dreaming of. With real 340km it hits the spot of most peoples use and under 25000€ it has potential of a bestseller. Thanks for the interesting discussion and greetings from Munich, Germany
@paultasker7788
@paultasker7788 Ай бұрын
Followed a Kona at night and it looked smart. I then overtook it and it looks smart from the front as well. Hyundai is really doing well with the styling
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