THE UK'S MOST DANGEROUS DUO (Joanna Dennehy) Part 1

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Today's solved true crime case is on the Peterborough ditch murders by Joanna Dennehy and Gary Stretch of Kevin Lee, John Chapman, John Rogers, Robin Bereza and Lukasz Slaboszewski - Joanne Dennehy is known as the most dangerous woman in britain
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[@KawaiiKlau]

Um Eleanor are you ok that's so many uploads to bless us with 😳😳✨

[@KaseyWithers]

Seriously I was just finishing up the beauty killer case when I got the notification for this one 😭❤️

[@patheticsnowman1755]

We have been blessed

[@AxxLAfriku]

AAAAAAHHHHH!!!! PAAAAAIIIINNNN!!!!!! I broke my hand yesterday because of the hate comments I get all the time. I was so angry that I punched a hole in my computer. Please don't hate me, dear fla

[@arizonathecatlover]

i remember you.. from my gacha phase lol

[@anti.bctards7376]

This is why your channel is dead

[@The-meg96]

I have been loving your “no makeup” makeup look lately 😭 you’re so freakin beautiful!!

[@izzylee9334]

Ikr

[@katycheshire333]

I was going to say the same! She's a real natural beauty 😍

[@deez9966]

Fr it’s soooo much prettier

[@cad0isk]

I knowww!!! her skin is flawless

[@alexandrajames9352]

I know right!!!! so pretty!!!!

[@amy_hannah]

“I have no idea what a 20 year old man sees in a 14 yo girl” LITERALLY. It’s vile. If the roles were reversed it’s vile too. Idk how people condone that sht.

[@peprigo9259]

Right. I feel like there's nothing an undeveloped person can give to a grown adult that another consenting and aware adult can't. Even if they do seem "mature for their age" or they "look older than they are". Kids often don't understand the gravity of any situation that they're in and it's disgusting and unfair of sick adults to take advantage of that aspect.

[@davidalan528]

Bluntly, it’s the youth itself that they see. They’re not looking for the qualities offered by a consenting adult; those are too mature, in form and thought. They want children and young adults for the ease of control, the malleability, and frankly the physique. Don’t look for rational rationale (if you will) from someone like that. They’re not looking for what healthy people seek in a relationship.

[@rickashleysrollofricks7724]

Kim k that you?

[@jelly6252]

@@davidalan528 that's literally how i met my boyfriend. I was 14 and he was 21, we stayed in contact for over a year and now we started year 7 of our relationship. Of course it's not always like that but come on let people be

[@mynameisjeffpoo4989]

@@jelly6252 just because it worked out okay for you does not make it morally okay at all sorry but grown ass men have NO business with children regardless of your situation

[@Claudia-fv4wg]

Every time there’s blood on a mattress and the police immediately assume it’s a dead body, I imagine how awkward it would be if it was menstrual blood

[@dianacrazyassbitch]

I think police can tell a difference between blood stain from a voohaa and blood from a murder 🤭😅

[@oren1305]

Menstrual blood wouldn't typically drench a mattress the way someone whom has bled out would, and officers I'm sure would be able to tell, or bring in a crime scene expert at least.

[@cemeterygxtes]

i think the amount of blood would be way different. we only use a few millilitres of blood, compared to someone being violently attacked 💀

[@fionabarrie9697]

That was my first thought too. Then I considered the amount of blood needed to stain to that degree and ..... unless a woman was bleeding out following a serious haemorrhage of some kind, it wouldn't fit the stain.

[@_lexi]

theres also chemical differences between menstural blood and blood from a wound bleeding out, so its not hard to tell apart.

[@薄雾-q8i]

I feel so bad, in a lot of these cases, dog walkers always find the bodies of the victim, like imagine just trying to exercise your dog and you just see a dead body on the ground. :(

[@catherinemann1296]

I know, this is something I secretly fear :(

[@annafuller2869]

Off topic but i read floor in eleanors accent lol

[@teddiethathal1116]

My goal in life is to never have to see a dead body and if I find one because of my dog I’m gonna be so pissed.

[@veronicanonica]

True.. always a dog walker finding a "mannequin " whose smile lit up the room 😒

[@teddiethathal1116]

@KEENG LOUIE What I’m hearing is that you’re volunteering for the job in my stead. Thanks, man, I appreciate your sacrifice.

[@chankitten]

off topic but let's talk about how friggin CUTE eleanor looks here 🥺 (edit: just wanna say i commented this before she got into the crime story, if it seems inappropriate)

[@louiselouisethebest]

I know. I didnt want to comment on it first, but she's so beautiful with minimal makeup. (honestly her YT thumbnails don't do her justice, and that says a lot cuz of course she's beautiful in those 2)

[@chankitten]

@@louiselouisethebest she is truly stunning no matter how much or little effort goes into a look 🥰

[@cyannbutler4100]

FR THO SHE'S SO PRETTY

[@louisehargreaves2508]

She's very pretty...but is that the point?

[@chankitten]

@@louisehargreaves2508 just tryna be kind

[@girlie_ch33se20]

I feel awful for Kevin’s wife, imagine finding out that your husband was not only cheating on you but was murdered by the person he was cheating with

[@hahaqqhaha]

wow….

[@natalierathbone4349]

I really need to stop reading the comments before the end of the video 😂

[@NatashiaB77]

Right! I was just thinking this. Now the image she had of her “loving & devoted” husband is forever tainted. I’d be so pissed how do you even grieve like that.

[@someguy3611]

@@natalierathbone4349 yeah me too-

[@Emma-dp8lh]

being so angry and sad but feeling you arent allowed to speek ill of him because of the social norm that you cant speak ill of the dead

[@brislife8417]

I’m sorry but I don’t feel sad for John AT ALLLL. What does a grown man have in common with a 14year old? A child? He broke her family’s hearts , Joanna broke his 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@NFKhan-eu3ff]

Both parties are in the wrong tbh. John in his own right and Joanna in her own. Joanna is also wrong for abusing him as well. Just like there's no excuse for grooming there's no excuse for abusing

[@emcar777]

I do agree with you to a certain extent like he definitely didn’t help Joanna or her family but although he’s a creepy man, like yuck being attracted to a child as an adult is so many levels of wrong, he didn’t deserve the physical and emotional abuse he was given. It sounds like he developed Stockholm’s syndrome and battered wife syndrome (if men can get it) which is truely abhorrent, no person no matter who they are deserve to be treated in such a way. In saying all that I just hope that their daughter can move past her parents and become the person she want to be.

[@__-zj3jz]

@@NFKhan-eu3ff Yep

[@__-zj3jz]

@@emcar777 Yes definitely

[@mollysministuff]

I agree, but at least he took responsibility for the kids.

[@RhonyLynn]

You don’t need to apologize for the multi-part cases…. They show your level of research. I really enjoy the cases that are “deep dives”.

[@cherryjello777]

I also really enjoy the deep dives! Eleanor's become one of my favorites just because of the detail she puts into the story of the case. 🐻

[@jennyfargueiro2510]

Me too

[@genericstaticshock705]

The best and my favorite as well

[@mintyglamour]

@@Mi_Pi yess i appreciate her work but she really does repeat the same information over and over, going in circles for a good chunk of time :((

[@amya7637]

I enjoy them occasionally but I've seen this case covered by other KZbinrs and it can definitely be done in one video with a good amount of information. I don't think every case needs multiple videos, but that's just my opinion.

[@milliesabine2107]

Eleanor is being so generous with all these uploads

[@wallowing5175]

right!!

[@TheMetalStylist]

YES! And I am LIVING FOR IT.

[@cinnamoroll9580]

IKKK

[@themango6913]

SHES SO PRETTY

[@Selene_777]

Lol not like she won't get paid for it or anything 🤣 but yeh it's nice

[@ollizanethesentinelknight]

The creepy thing is Gary Stretch was someone I knew as he lived literally 30 seconds away and was always pleasant and would call me Bon Jovi for having the long hair and wearing eyeliner. It is scary how people you once knew ended up being people you wished you never knew.

[@kenkerrison8962]

Is he really as huge as is often said?

[@ollizanethesentinelknight]

@@kenkerrison8962 from what I knew of him he was pretty decent to speak to, but I guess you never truly no someone

[@ash_tray]

That is insane!

[@ollizanethesentinelknight]

@@kenkerrison8962 I just realised I misread this, yes he is massive in height!

[@ollizanethesentinelknight]

@@ash_tray I know right??

[@leagaillard755]

To be entirely honest, I find it hard to feel bad for the boyfriend. I feel awful for the kids and all the trauma living thru having her as a mom and not having a mom, and then the publicity of the case. But let's remember he's a groomer. It doesn't matter if he ended up being the one who liked her more and wanted to be with her, he dated a 14 year old. I just turned 20 myself and even dating a 17 year old would make my skin crawl. He dated an actual child and was instrumental in her running away from home and being homeless for a year, so I just can't feel bad about her cheating on him. His ordeal regarding the children was sad, but it doesn't forgive what he did at the beginning.

[@XYZ-kb3mm]

making bad decisions does not make someone an entirely bad person, and you can feel sympathy for him and also disgust at the same time. people aren’t black and white

[@leagaillard755]

@@XYZ-kb3mm that... was my point? that i do acknowledge it was a bad thing that happened to him, but that i don't feel bad for him bc i see him as a bad person for GROOMING A MINOR. black and white sure. but infidelity and statutory rape aren't exactly comparable

[@rere9991]

​@@leagaillard755 well it wasn't just infidelity but she abused him and the kids + neglected them so idk. yea he is for sure wrong for grooming her but still he was a good father to his kids unlike their mother

[@GenXfrom75]

I was groomed at 14 by a man in his mid 20s. And it took me decades to recover from the trauma he inflicted. I always knew right from wrong, however. My trauma didn't end up "causing" me to hurt others.

[@ukrivu]

@@XYZ-kb3mm grooming a child is not just a "bad decision" tho.

[@creepeep]

I have diagnosed PTSD and I just want to say thank you from the bottom of my heart for all the warnings that you give throughout your video. Seriously, makes me emotional

[@zaila4271]

Me too, it really helps me as well

[@shuri.ken6]

the "click out of this video i'm sure i'll see you again soon" is SO pure because that affects her channel and most likely pay. she's willing to sacrifice the benefits in order to save a strangers mental state/health😭🙏🏼

[@jadebordelon770]

@@shuri.ken6 literally 🥺

[@ghostproof4964]

Hi I just wanted to say that this is so important!! I really appreciate Eleanor for this because I have come across some creators who say things like "I don't give warnings because why would you be watching true crime if it'll bother you" like... we don't know what the case entails so we don't know if it'll bother us?? And true crime isn't just for neurotypical people???

[@AK-fr5zv]

@@ghostproof4964 I agree completely. I have CPTSD and am a recovering addict, so knowing what to avoid is massive, especially since it can and does trigger psychotic outbreaks (for which I have meds, but like... Before they kick in things can get serious and used to get way worse before I was medicated).

[@JoeStunner]

I met Dennehy once, when I was working in a homeless hostel (the facial tattoo sticks in the mind). She was visiting a friend who was a resident, and came across as polite and friendly. Just shows you that you can never really know someone until you REALLY get to know them.

[@TripleKmafia]

I dated her years ago.

[@tillyhg1302]

@@TripleKmafia that’s so bloody cool, like u dated s murderer and you have some personal connection to this case

[@chloe-zq8ex]

@@tillyhg1302 u think its cool to be related to a murderer? i find it embarrassing knowing that u once knew this person and how heartless they actually are

[@cherrybomb1386]

@@TripleKmafia scary

[@himeakechi]

@@tillyhg1302 Theyre lying

[@hailey1550]

Do you think she may have been molested? For a child to change so drastically, act out so intensely, out of seemingly nowhere just makes me wonder.

[@beigelover95]

wow thats true

[@EagleBoxx]

Personality disorders usually start during the teenage years/early adulthood... It probably started early for her.

[@dem0litionsss]

@@EagleBoxx yes but a lot of personality disorders, especially cluster b and antisocial personality disorder mostly stem from a traumatic experience. these disorders can just be inherently biological but people tend to show symptoms from a very early age. it does make me think that maybe something traumatic may have happened to her for her brain to just switch like that seemingly out of nowhere

[@avalonllewellyn7187]

@@dem0litionsss Yeah coming to say the same - and as you said especially cluster b personality disorders can often stem from a traumatic experience, or they are biological as you said. Sometimes some symptoms can appear in early childhood but then triggered into a more full-blown response post trauma.

[@slugg8378]

I was thinking that her dad maybe did molest her, but she did not kill him like she said she did

[@meganwilliams7042]

Kevin wasn’t that kind and caring - he was cheating on his wife - anything but kind and caring

[@larbot3433]

Agree. What happened is a tragedy regatldess. At first he seemed great but the first red flag was learning he had hired 2 ex con goons to rough up his tenants who couldn't pay rent... that makes him seem more like hes taking advantage of the vulnerable tbh

[@beigelover95]

As a wife myself, that part made me so angry. Eleanor said his wife saw him as her bestfriend but he clearly didn't value her that much. He was definitely not a truly good person.

[@lewismorgan7273]

He actually employed them to enforce and evict tenants moved denehey into one of his properties sounds like a real gentleman

[@alicelefae]

yeah from what I've seen he chose to let to the people he did because they were vulnerable.

[@Dwayne-Mobile1]

Trading sex for rent probably was the agreement

[@snowyskylines]

kevin literally cheated on his wife + hired people to threaten tenants who couldn't pay rent, so why are we acting like he's some sort of kind, genuine, incredible person..? I don't mean to talk badly about someone who has passed away, and I am in no way saying he deserved what happened to him - but there's also no need to glorify him.

[@saajidahm]

i’m guessing that she didn’t know

[@snowyskylines]

@@saajidahm who didn't know? eleanor? because she literally talks about all of this in the video

[@mariscardigan]

@@snowyskylines the wife

[@mariscardigan]

@@snowyskylines I think

[@gloom0259]

I don’t see no one glorifying him?

[@ninaa3699]

im LIVING for the fresh face look !! you’re absolutely stunning xx

[@nikkimclay5474]

yes isnt she incredibly beautiful

[@peekyboop]

the only people i felt bad for in the whole joanna and the bf's relationship were the children lol. like yay for you getting yourself and your innocent kids away from a toxic person you helped make, you groomer.

[@izzylee9334]

Exactly

[@dragonfeet9832]

“Walking through the field, dog going crazy over a spot” Me: Yep, a dead body

[@samadritade2531]

so I've literally been watching Eleanor for 9 hours straight while doing my school projects which are due tomorrow.. It's almost 3 am here and I was so glad when I found she posted this right now because I was running out of videos and I am gonna pull an all nighter today lolll.

[@meagan.868]

Hope you do well in your projects!

[@sunken_lilies]

I have a test tomorrow and I’m studying! Hope we both pull through ^^

[@amandawilliams3158]

Best of luck with your studies!! Rooting for you!

[@marleycymon3512]

i just have one project to do and its only 8pm here but same

[@samadritade2531]

@@meagan.868 thats so nice of you..thank you sm😊💜💜

[@georginakelly7402]

Eleanor is looking extra glowy recently, I hope life is extra amazing for her right now!

[@victoriabagwell8426]

I agree she is looking amazing. Very healthy, both physically and emotionally. You are a very interesting intelligent lady. Thank you for your hard work and attention to detail.

[@mightybooshtish]

When she changed as a teen, my theory is that she was SA’d and it’s a mix of trauma and psychopathy.

[@user-pi3hd2bt3f]

not necesarely personality disorders( like the one she was diagnosed with) tend to start manifesting during the teenage years or adulthood and while yes these disorders can be caused by trauma they can just be genetic

[@lucaaj6359]

I could see this honestiy. Especially with her interesting kinks. It's a strange, but common trauma response to be into that stuff after something like that happens to you. Especially if it was done by somebody you feel you were supposed to love and trust.

[@Lina_al_j]

That’s definitely plausible, but there could be other factors that contributed to her diagnosis. Just wanted to say that there is no existing medication for ASPD, so that was false info. Maybe she was given meds for smth else like anxiety, mood stabilizers or smth, but there is no medication that one would actually prescribe specifically for ASPD.

[@kerenmason5120]

​@@user-pi3hd2bt3f there's actually no evidence of a genetic component to personality disorders

[@elizabethb1096]

She 1000000000% was SA’d bc the guy was 20 and she was 14. Even if nothing happened till she was 16 it’s still R bc the grooming makes it so there is no consent

[@HopeeInk]

So this *adult* starts a relationship with a barely teen and I end up feeling sorry for _him_ ? It’s a crazy world we live in.

[@ThePuzzlerOfRiddles]

No kidding. He's one of the least screwed up things so far.

[@BloodOfMadara]

IKR? Shit is twisted! 🥴

[@oiseau_]

he definitely isn’t blameless here, but nobody deserves to be abused :/

[@illie_]

Ikr

[@gabrielawouters1644]

R I G H T ?????

[@IMessageTextz]

Can we all agree that when she uploads our days get better! 💖

[@stephsvids9812]

Hi hi! 😂

[@meimei51793]

Hiii

[@Teemo147]

Hi

[@ashleighwilliams3778]

Is there a prize? Xox

[@bosslady8983]

HI!!!

[@aime9840]

no, no ,no.... we love these long cases. They're so interesting especially if they end up getting solved.

[@smb871]

Same!

[@chloe.clover1078]

A few years ago joanna was placed in the same prison department as Rose West, and Joanna made Rose's life a misary, she bullied rose and even threatened to kill her, to the point the prison had to relocate Rose

[@sethwayne706]

Lmfaooo!!

[@SpeedyWeedyYT]

I would cheer on Joanna but honestly they both trash. At least Joanna refused to put her hands on women and children.

[@Videomaker-pz4xm]

@@SpeedyWeedyYT I know but she's a very sexist killer

[@alexbennet4195]

@@SpeedyWeedyYT Not killing women isn't any better, what?? 😭 But killing children is definitely a different story.

[@lamby4057]

That’s a myth! Rose was transferred to make room for Joanna. Low Newton has specialised units/wings. Rose was transferred to another prison In order to make room for Joanna, this was because the authorities believed that Joanna could be rehabilitated but Rose would never be. They didn’t have the resources to keep two high profile female murderers so Rose was moved before Joanne arrived. They never crossed paths at all

[@JONAYA]

As well as using Dennehy to threaten people he was also cheating on his wife with her. The sexual relationship probably also constituted part of the rent, so he wasn’t a good person at all.

[@samanthajeffers9339]

Yeah, could you imagine being the wife and finding that out about your husband after he was found murdered, and it was her first relationship? That poor woman.

[@MariaKiran1]

Exactly.

[@emmalouise7884]

That would be so heartbreaking for his wife, grieving and yet feelings of betrayal. An awful thing he was doing but didnt deserve to die.

[@girlie_ch33se20]

@@emmalouise7884 Yeah he didn’t deserve his fate sure, but he was by no means the saint everyone viewed him as

[@natalierathbone4349]

You have to wonder if any of his other tenants had similar rent arrangements

[@freya7313]

Can we all just take a moment to appreciate how consistent her uploads have been lately ❣️

[@ItzGabbyGurl]

@@C_0414 get over yourself

[@0_XAlexX_0]

@@C_0414 um…what? I have been watching all her vids for years now and not once had she not kept a promise what are you on about

[@sma1616]

Ciera Kelley chill

[@umohdoraline6333]

@@C_0414 just watch her past videos if you really miss her that much. That's what I do. I've never noticed that she didn't keep her promises. Stop putting pressure on her.

[@freyamarques3962]

Literally

[@sarahwhaley3110]

Gotta question old mates extremely unethical approach to the 'trade' between himself and Joanna. Offering housing to help people, often people that were released from jail or had a criminal history THEN asking Joanna to help him evict people in a manner that was intimidating- encouraging her to continue not only to be aggressive and intimidating but involved in criminal activity 🙄. NO Im NOT saying he at all deserved to be hurt in ANY way but jesus thats dodgey and dangerous dealings😬🤯

[@hacktplanet450]

My thoughts exactly. Landlords be landlordin’

[@hacktplanet450]

Also the fact that people r like “well they were criminals” like I thought u said it was good of him to take in vulnerable people like Johanna ? Which is it ? Cause it sounds to me like he used two criminals to threaten other potential victims.

[@sarahwhaley3110]

@@hacktplanet450 He was no doubt kind, but true kindness has no mind to ask for things in return. He took advantage of clearly unstable and vulnerable people and ultimately it didnt work out very well. sad situation all round, if only he had stayed the F away from Joanna and treated her like any other tenant 😔

[@chelseawilson3151]

I actually prefer the multiple part ones I would prefer long ones if I’m honest. Great work love how much detail and effort goes into your videos. Keep up the good work xx

[@binkysuebob]

check out stephanie harlowe!! hers are deep dive multiple parters xx

[@yeyeye4242]

same gives me sommet to look forward too when there’s multiple parts

[@momsdiva71]

@@binkysuebob Yes. Stephanie Harlowe is absolutely amazing. She gives very detailed about not only the victims; but the people also involved in the cases. Not Eleanor and Stephanie are my favorites. They have very different styles of presenting the stories but you can see they truly care about how the content is presented.

[@paigecarlson6464]

@@binkysuebob if you haven’t already check out stephanie’s podcast as well!

[@emilie5716]

Hey Eleanor. I was wondering if you would ever consider covering the case of Marc Dutroux? He was a horrible man who kidnapped and essentially murdered of young girls in Belgium. The case is still very delicate in Belgium but I have never heard anyone talk about it online. I feel like you would be great in covering it respectfully. It is also very interesting and shows the failure of the police system and the outrage of the people.

[@xxUkiyo]

Joshua Miles has done video’s on it :)

[@clarissegautier4613]

That would be great but it might be difficult for her to find articles in English about the case

[@lisamac1986]

Think Rob Gavagan did one on him and a few others too

[@aleksandralempart8305]

A lot of people speak French anyway

[@Autumnpearly]

I've seen this on 3 videos. She doesn't read her comments. She has a request form to fill out in the description box.

[@alpacaseoks]

why is it always the innocent people walking their dogs who find the bodies 😭

[@poseidons_child.]

WAIT. A. MINUTE.

[@matterofcrimemedia]

I just feel so sorry for Joanna's kids. What chance do they have in life with parents like that.

[@georgiagirl31523]

They seem to be doing well!

[@hannahlynn8861]

I do feel sorry for them, but no matter the situation you can make a good life for yourself. It may be harder, dont let your background define your future ❤

[@JB-pr2ob]

"i have no idea what a 20 year old man sees in a 14 year old girl" sadly, he sees a vulnerable person who he can easily manipulate and control. that's usually the case with situations like this. the fact that he "waited" until she hit the legal age of consent is concerning enough (i don't believe he waited tbh) it means he knew she was too young for him, but he went after her anyways. adults who "date" minors much younger than them are disgusting. there's so much mental and physical development that happens when you're a teenager, and these gross predators can have life-long negative effects on the young people they prey after. btw, i don't mind the multi-part cases. it means you put extra effort into giving us every detail about the case, and it really shows in the quality of your work. love your video as always! even though they're so heartbreaking and horrible, they remind me to cherish the good people in the world

[@kaitlincoulter1811]

I’ve been with someone who was older than me by like 5 years when I was 15 however his mental state was younger and he had no idea about sex or anything like that his mental state was much younger than his actual age. He suffered tons of trauma as a kid so he stopped maturing after a certain point.

[@bunny12466]

@@kaitlincoulter1811 as long as you weren’t a minor and he was a grown adult then his mental age doesn’t matter. A mental age is the excuse MAPS use to excuse their predatory behavior. Mental age is irrelevant when a minor and an adult are involved.

[@lenamariejackson]

@@kaitlincoulter1811 law and morality doesn’t care what age he thinks he is. not dating a child is a basic concept we can all understand and abide by.

[@guts5034]

Thank you SO MUCH for saying this

[@kaitlincoulter1811]

@@lenamariejackson he had also suffered from strokes and things so his brain did not actually make connections that many other peoples due

[@cyb3rno0b15]

How the first victim was found to humiliate him reminds me of how my uncle was found when he was murdered. He was stripped naked and thrown on a front lawn of a house on a busy street, the killers have never been found and convicted (even though to us as the family we know who it was) It’s an unsolved case in Australia that has never been mentioned as an unsolved case here.. I’ve tried getting the story out on KZbin channels like this even with little information we have about the woman we know had the biggest part in it but no one ever covers it because there’s nothing online about it so everyone thinks it’s fake.. our family who were changed because of this have almost all passed, I just know our family will leave this earth never getting answers or at least some help on finding the people who were involved in the murder and bringing them to justice.

[@oren1305]

I'm late here, but try emailing YouYubers, (if you haven't already), rather than posting down in the comments. Maybe seek a PI of there's money and time? I'm so sorry you and your family are suffering with not only this loss, but the lack of justice and answers.

[@strangetimez]

perfection doesn't exi- Eleanor: 🥺🎀 me: nevermind

[@devoutings]

IKR SHES SO PPRETTY

[@Amelia-lh6kb]

Creepy

[@estopesto2647]

We can never assume that someone's childhood was normal and trama free. IT IS NOT AN EXCUSE OR HOW ALL TRAUMATISED PEOPLE BEHAVE. But she presents as a classic CSA survivor.

[@jabrayjay6679]

Absolutely

[@TheGeekDotCom]

That’s what i thought from the sudden change of personality however my sister hit puberty and became so horrible and it was found later though therapy and doctors that it was literally just hormones so her sudden change does completely give csa vibes but it is possible for it to literally just be puberty

[@maisonleigh4724]

Honestly I was thinking the same, she could have been lying abt killing her father but she displays all of the classic symptoms of a child of abuse.

[@diaryofarealmom3264]

Not true. I was a cute kid, awful teenager, and shit adult, then I had kids and I was sweet and loving again. (But still have problems)

[@abigailxmary]

We also can’t make the assumption that everyone who’s ever committed a serious crime had an awful childhood and experienced a lot of trauma. Sometimes people are just absolutely heinous creatures and that’s just who they are, despite having a normal, abuse free childhood…

[@rafa001234]

Eleanor: “Don’t google her” Me: *Sudden urge to google her*… *sigh* …*opens google*

[@lincherlauncher6293]

What showed up? Was it scary?! I’m tempted to look it up also, but I’m nervous it will traumatize me.

[@rafa001234]

@@lincherlauncher6293 it’s nothing to grotesque, if you are triggered by anything to do with self harm then i would say don’t do it, but if not then you’re good is just pictures of her with her belly out showing a bunch of scars .

[@lincherlauncher6293]

@@rafa001234 I looked it up. I expected there to be pictures of her in the act of doing it and the blood. It doesn’t really trigger me too much.

[@TheIndigo1child]

Yea I only saw one picture and it was pretty tame Imo. I will never forget being in lets call it "camp" with a girl that had the worst self harm I have even seen, her whole forearm was mutilated it looked like almost down to the muscle with huge gapping "help.me" and other gashes, it oozed and would bleed randomly, they must of gotten her stitches at some point but I don't remember it ever being stitched up(definitely should of been). I felt so bad for the other girls that were struggling with SH to have to see it every day. I think they eventually asked her to wear long sleeves. She was a huge walking trigger warning for sure.

[@lincherlauncher6293]

@@TheIndigo1child oh no! I really hope they’re doing fine. I knew someone who cut themselves, and they looked so happy and once they told me I was so surprised. The thought never crossed my mind, I mean, I was 11 at the time. She was so freaking young with all of the mental and the physical scars (cut scars).

[@VQUV]

ANOTHER ONE?!?! Eleanor, what did we do to deserve you?!?

[@nashayegunter7317]

Can everyone agree with me and say her hair is so beautiful today?✨✨✨✨

[@hannahwestrop5894]

Gorgeous

[@nininavarra8105]

@ nashaye gunter Yes, indeed!

[@nikkimclay5474]

not just her hair but her wow shes stunning without all the makeup im blown away by just how incredibly beautiful she is

[@annetteg.r.i.p1491]

Am I the only one who loves Eleanor’s multi-part series’? I just love when she really deep dives into these cases!! Can’t wait for part 2 xx

[@Clarepearson_1]

Oooh we’re being spoilt! Wasn’t expecting a new video this early!! Appreciate the hard work as always!!♥️♥️

[@VeloFN]

“Congrats to everyone who is early and found this comment”💛

[@EllieDaisy]

Not really an appropriate video to post spam like this.

[@Log-On-Line]

why the quotations?

[@Emma-dp8lh]

sometimes i forget how long she researches these cases, along with the amount of time and self control it takes to talk infront of a camera for hours

[@cici.ngxenge]

For real because i see myself eating whilst recording and i have a hard time staying in one place even for a few mins

[@brittlebonesghost1226]

let's take a moment to appreciate how precious her hair is today

[@siddubois4753]

Suits her well ✨

[@TheMetalStylist]

Ahem… her hair is ✨always✨ Precious. But it’s extra so today. 😁

[@nina.robbs565]

does anybody else wonder if police have ever found a bloody mattress and it ended up just being period blood? every single time I hear about the police searching someone's house and finding blood on a mattress always makes me think about that

[@TheMetalStylist]

Same. Lol. I guess it depends on HOW MUCH blood but a small pooling even could be a heavy period especially if you start in your sleep and don’t wake up. Sometimes you just don’t feel it…

[@beigelover95]

hahah

[@bunnygoldman4112]

right bc one night I came on n didnt know I thought I peed on myself when I got up it was literally a big stain of blood I was like Dang you'll think I had a miscarriage how much it was

[@minyme43]

It's happened before with a murder case where they thought it was the girlfriend who murdered the victim because of blood in the shower drain but when tested it turned out to just be period blood.

[@izzylee9334]

Exactly that’s what I thought!

[@MariaCaterina2012]

When she said, “His heart went out to her so much that he offered her a room, rent-free…”, I immediately concluded that he was having an affair with Dennehy.

[@polly-fe3pq]

thats so sad y cant we trust ppl lmao

[@dhanadhanalakshmi2665]

Same but Kevin sounds really faithful

[@TheMetalStylist]

I love your two parters Eleanor!! Also I’m living for how much content you’ve been giving us lately! I love you girl! Make sure you’re looking after yourself as well! You look marvelous.

[@kyuhyunspenguins3124]

Is so scary to see Joanna's baby photo, she looked so innocent... how did that cute little girl turned into the devil?

[@origamipein18]

You'd be so surprised.

[@bunny12466]

By being groomed by an adult man, warping her views at a young age. Plus other factors I’m sure.

[@NikkieTwix]

@@bunny12466 I don’t think her relationship with an older man had anything to do with the things she went on to do. So many girls have been through similar and worse even by being groomed into relationships with violent men, Joanna is manipulative and rotten to her core

[@yugen8195]

@@bunny12466 she was clearly already troubled before that.

[@illie_]

Same I was surprised

[@mxmmianaxo1160]

Poor Kevin! He sounded like such a nice guy , until I heard he cheated with Joanne🤢 she looks so scruffy like why?! But still didn’t deserve that ❤️😭

[@megryan1992]

YES, I JUST FINISHED THE BEAUTY QUEEN KILLER CASE, THANK YOU QUEEN 🥰

[@olly4556]

Eleanor has the best video schedule it's kinda like she gives us just enough time to watch the previous case

[@sineadowusu3256]

Eleanor literally looks like a princess

[@illie_]

Fr

[@eden1507]

she’s glowing!

[@deannelson1388]

That picture at 34.00 says everything about this 'thing' Poor bairns, i really hope they are in a good home and well loved today, though with the state of our social services i do wonder. Worrying.

[@ZyanLajayla]

34:00 *

[@estopesto2647]

"Personality" disorders are so misunderstood. I've experienced all sides of "disordered personalities" and it's just devastating for everyone involved

[@larag3747]

Right? Some things people do while having thisbkind of disorders are so sad and dangerous. But in all honesty, it isnt a reason to do the things she did

[@TheGeekDotCom]

@@larag3747 I think it could possibly be a reason but it’s not an excuse if you get what I mean

[@larag3747]

@@TheGeekDotCom yeah i think that too, just that so many people around here, seems to be sad for her, and not sad by what she did

[@isadoramoon7521]

It greatly depends of the personality disorder. Cluster B personality disorders are usually emotionally unstable. This includes borderline personality disorder, antisocial personality disorder and histrionic personality disorder. I have avoidant personality disorder which is a cluster c personality disorder which are usually characterized by extreme shyness and fearfullness ect. I don't let people near me (I have never had a relationship and I'm soon 35 years old) and I only trust my family members. It's sad that there are still a lot of people who don't understand that not all personality disorders are alike. not saying that you don't understand that but I have seen a lot of comments on youtube assuming that every personality disorder is the exact same, when there are a lot of different ones.

[@trashpanda3544]

@@isadoramoon7521 I was diagnosed with 3 personality disorders. I am diagnosed with BPD, OCPD and AvPD. I also have autism so you can imagine what life is like with me. The way they all interact with each other and bounce of each other makes for a very tumultuous experience. So many people will stop being my friend because of how.... erratic I can act when under severe stress. I initially went in for a diagnosis for BPD so imagine my shock when I hit every criteria for 3 different personality disorders, only to then be told I'm also autistic. I know my experience is uncommon, even the psychiatrist remarked that they don't normal diagnose people with multiple different ones but he was at a loss for what to do with me. I think personality disorders are so misunderstood and under researched that they just don't have understand everything that there is to them. I honestly believe that with more research I could end up being diagnosed with just one personality disorder, maybe a new personality disorder they haven't discovered yet, maybe they'll name it after me lol, I know for certain I at least have BPD because that's the one I feel the most affecting me day to day. I think I'm at a point where I have so much mentally wrong with me that it cancels out and I act like a normal person haha.

[@anaisvictoria477]

THIS IS PERFECT TIMING BECAUSE IVE STARTED STUDYING HER FOR MY CRIMINOLOGY COURSE

[@savannahelouisa]

Eleanor saying sorry that there have been so many two part episodes. Me, absolutely loving it. Carry on girl, I'm here for it.

[@rueandvalerie]

The fact that the man who was in a relationship a teenager for years had to take the moral high ground…….. I hate this.

[@mumenRhyder]

I love how respectful you are towards the victims and your audience. As someone with PTSD and severe anxiety I appreciate the warnings you make before you start the case. Not enough true crime youtubers do that

[@ZaykaPrincess]

this is completely unrelated to the case but the way you've been doing your makeup recently is just perfection omg

[@nicolekennedy6841]

I love the more natural look she's been sporting lately, she is absolutely beautiful!

[@kass_G59]

GIRL you’ve been working so hard! Just wanna let you know all your hard work is so appreciated. You’re amazing 💜

[@st4rryDaze]

You've posted so much I'm gonna get my friends together so we can binge them

[@stemple11100]

Tbh struggle to find much sympathy for Kevin Lee, not only was he cheating on his wife with her but also hiring her to get money off tenants under threat of violence, strikes me that the situation was akin to someone owning a wild animal and then being surprised when It turns on them

[@maiayaqoob7651]

the way Joana bit the hand that fed her.. wow

[@nexway9173]

You know, that man genuinely seemed like the best possible landlord, like just so kind for him to have tenets that you know are struggling and understand that

[@michelleprieur1]

I don't consider a married man sleeping with his tenant to be a good landlord. Or a good anything, frankly. Joanna is a nutjob but she was also vulnerable; I have no doubt he exchanged sex for rent from her. That's not a good landlord.

[@NikkieTwix]

@@michelleprieur1 I don’t see Joanna as vulnerable, I think she is quite manipulative and probably had zero issues with that arrangement

[@cemeterygxtes]

he hired joanna to intimidate vulnerable tenants… doesn’t sound like a lovely landlord but perhaps that’s just me

[@clusterfoxtrot4462]

I am loving the soft natural look you've been rocking. Beautiful.

[@catblue4690]

When I saw the rest of her body when she threw the phone I was all like “OML I forgot that she isn’t just shoulders and a head like when I watch her videos” like it was weird lol 😂

[@alexadaree3018]

Anyone else think Joanna looks EXACTLY like Matilda when she was a child, or is that just me?

[@thevampirediaries118]

Omg yes

[@izzygirvan9252]

My boyfriend said that when we were watching it 😂

[@carmelwright]

Unrelated to the story: your hair looks so fun and gorgeous 🥰

[@SerenaTheTurtle]

Hun I'm pretty sure all of us would absolutely not mind three hour videos from you! The content is just so good.

[@bunnygoldman4112]

I'm here for it

[@kelliesaunders4905]

Eleanor, you do not have to split your videos into two and three parts! Honey, we will sit and watch you for hours at a time. Don’t you know almost all of us have already done that? More than once?

[@tysia9652]

thats true but filming 1.5h long vids might be much harder to edit. And propobly just to film.

[@BeautifulSilence]

Not only that but multiple part series mean more engagement and channel revisits. And the algorithm currently favors a consistent upload schedule. So multipart series are often a great way to grow your channel!

[@brianna9554]

It takes hours & hours to film & edit a 45 min video, not including the time it takes for her to do all this research, she's been working her tail off as it is. Enjoy what you get ☺️

[@shindaghotra3657]

I haven’t seen you in a few months and my jaw literally dropped when I saw you at the beginning. YOU LOOK STUNNING!!!!

[@hanzinoyusuf3764]

I’m proud of you Eleanor like the consistency is amazing 😂❤️

[@lightningmcqueen4202]

"She was 14 and he was 20" Sounds alittle sus to me m8 sounds kinda like grooming if you ask me

[@cathleenandmichaelsbants5673]

Think this channel needs boycotted now it's all for the money now cant even enjoy the videos anymore because they are dragged out and made to wait for days or weeks for the next part just coz she's waiting on sponsors kendals videos are not all sponsored . Deffo unsubscribing

[@stephsvids9812]

how nasty can someone be.

[@Chloe299XxX]

Ok bye!!!!

[@cathleenandmichaelsbants5673]

Not nasty its the truth

[@elizabethgreer27]

Kevin was cheating on his wife with her. Thats why he was giving her all those gifts and money and free rent. It wasn’t because he was being nice lol. Although he did seem like an amazing person for helping people. But that wasnt why he helped her.

[@ivyluna3057]

when she said there were "favors" or whatever that she would do for kevin that was all i could think

[@amymckay23]

Where’s your source? Link it please.

[@ivyluna3057]

@@amymckay23 eleanor says thats what happened at the end of the video lol, theres evidence they had a sexual and dominant relationship through messages

[@momsdiva71]

I love Eleanor and her detailed information in her videos. She is always so respectful to the victims and families. Her disclosure at the beginning is another example of how she respects victim and the subject matter.

[@nessyjayne8888]

Does anyone else see her going cold turkey when pregnant as such an insight into her character? As in idk it made me feel really sad, that she could show that self discipline and restraint when it came to the health of her baby growing inside her but she couldn't do the same just for herself. She put her babies first they were the priority when they were inside her and once her habits wouldn't directly affect the health of the baby anymore she went back to her old ways because she deemed herself as less important and clearly couldn't cope. Feel like everyone is forgetting she was literally groomed and abused by a paedophile, was homeless for a year, and became dependent on drugs to deal with that. That to me is a very valid and understandable reaction to her life experiences and situation. Not the murder. But just up to her children and the breakdown of her relationship, HE IS A NONCE he groomed and abused her AS A CHILD AND REMOVED HER FROM HER FAMILY. I don't care if she shagged half of England, that's absolutely irrelevant compared to what she was victim to. That just really knocked me for six.

[@skittlekitty7264]

I don't know for some reason everyone feels sorry for this guy. It's not like he was locked up for grooming her.

[@jabrayjay6679]

Alll this! a troubled child, encouraged to leave home and live rough by a grown man, who then chose to impregnate her twice. The fact that she self harmed extensively as well as having addictions and mental health issues...wow she needed so much help, and didn't get it

[@aprylljay]

Idk but I just think of a friend of mine who quit drinking and smoking because it made her violently ill even though she wasn't keeping it

[@littleshopofeldritchhorror6224]

She choose to runaway from home, he didn’t make her at all. I’m not siding with him at all he shouldn’t have gone there.

[@littleshopofeldritchhorror6224]

She choose to runaway from home, he didn’t make her at all. I’m not siding with him at all he shouldn’t have gone there.

[@karinagomez4601]

I JUST GOT OUT OF WORK THIS LEGIT IS WHAT I NEEDED 😭♥️

[@sparkeymcmurphy]

@Not RiсkRoII👇😇 Why are you spamming all the comments? That's obnoxious.

[@lktzu2821]

You are super sweet. Imagine apologising for giving us more content. Your 2 or 3 parters show the amount of extensive research you put into every case. Don't worry about it. We appreciate your hard work. ❤

[@conigliana]

let me just add that your minimal makeup in the last few videos is absolutely amazing, you look so fresh and cute

[@sophielouisexo_]

4 videos in a week, Eleanor we love you, hope you’re doing okay too! 💗

[@olly4556]

Ik im so happy. And I'm so proud of her

[@Sarah-N709]

"So today's videeeoooo" Every single time I click, I say it at the same exact time. I don't know why this brings me so much joy but it does 😆

[@andyjohnson4907]

Kevin Lee doesn't seem to be the white knight he's being portrayed as in this video. He used a position of power to start a relationship with a vulnerable member of society, then bribed her with gifts, all whilst being married. If he was caught doing that whilst alive, he'd have lost his job, and probably faced legal repercussions.

[@izzyyg1337]

It’s her voice for me 😍😍😍 I be loving getting ready to her in the morning .

[@morrellbrown1123]

I thought it was just me!! I even like listening to her before I go to sleep!

[@kellysehoun]

WE’RE EARLY, for once. She’s been gifting us with all them uploads. Have a good one guys 🤍

[@beigelover95]

your last name is so interesting. where ya from pretty girl?

[@kellysehoun]

@@beigelover95 thank you 🤍 it means I follow my destiny. It’s from Benin

[@avachesworth6965]

I remember seeing this on the news and it was literally terrifying

[@jstndru]

OKAY ELEANOR!!!!!!! you feeding the girls this week i love it here ☺️

[@trendy8176]

early ya

[@RandomPerson-wl5id]

Me too :)

[@Jellgumi]

Yess

[@lob2193]

Same

[@beplinquent]

she's so prettyyy 🥺💕

[@RandomPerson-wl5id]

@@beplinquent yeah, I like her hairstyle

[@nish3603]

Girl where’s part 2????

[@Cy_an1d3]

37:00 okay but if you self harm from a very young age it’s very common that later in life it will develop into a kink. They just develop from childhood experiences.

[@nessyjayne8888]

Exactly!!!!!

[@weteafart]

Oh

[@tyghoulie]

im counting this as an early birthday present (its tomorrow), ily eleanor and i always get excited when i see a post notification. might help with my criminology assessment i have tomorrow too ahah

[@-w-2772]

happy early birthday 🥺💜🎈 and good luck on your assessment 🤗😁

[@Fountainofyouthstor1]

Happy birthday.

[@takisforbreakfast]

Happy birthday 💗

[@chloe-janewitcombe39]

Happy Birthday! X

[@bananaberry5909]

Happy birthday!!!

[@jessicahomewood6653]

This is case is from my hometown, I remember this all happening whilst I was at school. I was actually friends with one of the victims son. I really struggle to watch videos on the case as it’s all very close to home and makes me feel a bit sick but Eleanor, as always, carries it out so well and this is the first time I’ve managed to watch a video all the way through about this case. Thank you 💖

[@katiespall764]

Love your hair curly!! Also never apologize for giving us two or three parters! I love them! Keep em coming girl! ❤️

[@caseycee4325]

I’m sorry but Eleanor takes the piss out of us with these several parters and doesn’t even rush to get them out. Very unfair, should be out each following day. Shock, again she takes ages.

[@kktt8003]

She has no obligation to have her videos out when it suits you, she puts some amount of work and research into her videos to put out high quality content that is enjoyable to watch, she’s got a life too you know she can’t just sit around putting out videos because it suits you she will upload when she wants it’s her channel you know where the unsubscribe button is! Her actual supporter don’t mind how long it takes her… she’s literally just made a massive 3 part video

[@whythoidk]

Rude as fuck

[@veronicanonica]

Eleanor, I am feeling so spoiled because you keep blessing me with the presence of your beauty everytime that you upload!! Are we being blessed with daily uploads??!! 🥰 Thank you for being such a beautiful soul, inside and out!! 😍 I stan you❣❣💋

[@Aaron-hf5or]

Tea’s gone cold i’m wonderin why I got out of bed at all.

[@yoongistongue4163]

She was a very pretty girl as a child and even as young woman, it's unsettling what happened with her because it seems to come out of nowhere. As for the father of her kid, as much as usually such an age gap is a huge red flag in this case he seems like a decent guy who truly fall in love. Which is a good thing for her daughter that she at least has one good parent who cared.

[@Elleoaqua]

2021: "Serial killer Joanna Dennehy, one of the most dangerous women in the UK’s criminal history, plans to marry her fiancée who gave her a “no more murders” ultimatum." LOL jail makes such strange marriages

[@caitlinandkpop]

Can’t get over the fact this happened literally twenty minutes away from my house 😭

[@LizEffington]

She didn't want to be a good mother, she wanted to be a good pregnant woman