The ultimate 90s metal tier list

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Finn Mckenty

Finn Mckenty

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@FinnMckentyPRMBA
@FinnMckentyPRMBA Жыл бұрын
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@noisepollution6761
@noisepollution6761 Жыл бұрын
You forgot Kyuss 🥊🧢
@mrthesandwich4965
@mrthesandwich4965 Жыл бұрын
Dime did say it jokingly to a white guy. Weird you brought it up. I mean he's dead as shit. But I get what you're saying. And why.
@JjsWorld77
@JjsWorld77 Жыл бұрын
❤❤ handicap emoji dude. Thanks for what u do 😮
@JjsWorld77
@JjsWorld77 Жыл бұрын
It's supposed to say hand clap. But u can keep that😂😂😂
@noisepollution6761
@noisepollution6761 Жыл бұрын
Did he say something about white zombie? ⛳ or black pixies?...
@apoplexiamusic
@apoplexiamusic Жыл бұрын
The Legend Of Finn : Tiers Of The Kingdom Edit: i am also a Fear Factory stan and i think they are definitely A tier.
@septicturtle0465
@septicturtle0465 Жыл бұрын
He rules every kingdom
@Archemist03
@Archemist03 Жыл бұрын
Finn please ❤ this!! 🥺
@TheEvilKingStan
@TheEvilKingStan Жыл бұрын
S tier comment
@mediaapexproduction5245
@mediaapexproduction5245 Жыл бұрын
S tier all the way!! Most dynamic under ratted band ever
@charliekirkpatrick695
@charliekirkpatrick695 Жыл бұрын
Dino in general and Fear Factory - incredible.
@theangelbelow88
@theangelbelow88 Жыл бұрын
90s rockers be dressing like real life anime characters and modern rockers be dressing like generic warehouse NPCs 😂
@mattwhite399
@mattwhite399 Жыл бұрын
S-tier comment!
@timothyparker4983
@timothyparker4983 Жыл бұрын
When are u gonna do a rap tier list? Lots of naughty words in that music as well am I riiiiiiiiiiight?
@markstultz383
@markstultz383 Жыл бұрын
Lmao
@sqlb3rn
@sqlb3rn Жыл бұрын
Idk what you mean, Tim Henson looks like a Final Fantasy NPC with his anime hair and elf ears
@theangelbelow88
@theangelbelow88 Жыл бұрын
@@sqlb3rn there's a few who like to actually standout, like sexy anime protagonist, Tim. But 99.9% of dudes in bands all look like they just clocked out of a basic job and hit the stage lol
@jessecovey1778
@jessecovey1778 Жыл бұрын
Pete Steel is too big to be a Troll. He’s more of an Ogre. Ogres have layers, like onions.
@crescendo5594
@crescendo5594 6 ай бұрын
I don’t know why, but I love this comment.
@atvena
@atvena 4 ай бұрын
​@@crescendo5594 Shrek callback
@gx1tar1er
@gx1tar1er Жыл бұрын
Sad people don't give Helmet & Faith No More credit as much as they used to. They're the reason why nu-metal & these nu-metal bands exist that all zoomers love.
@gx1tar1er
@gx1tar1er Жыл бұрын
I know you hate college rock but this also applies to R.E.M. They're so overlooked by newer generation & overshadowed by The Smiths, The Cure, Pixies, Sonic Youth, 95% of 90's alt rock band. They're the reason US alternative is born that zoomers love too lol
@michaelluciano1980
@michaelluciano1980 Жыл бұрын
@@gx1tar1er it’s how it goes - platforms like TikTok have recontextualized history for better or for worse. But real ones know (:
@JakeBass666
@JakeBass666 Жыл бұрын
Faith No More was outshining Guns N' Roses on their own tour at the height of their popularity, that should make them S-tier.
@MrHamtits
@MrHamtits Жыл бұрын
I don't think that ever happened
@MrHamtits
@MrHamtits Жыл бұрын
Nah I don't think that ever happened
@Sweat404
@Sweat404 Жыл бұрын
Fear factory is one of my favorite bands of all time. I saw them live play the demanufafcture album live in a small club, it was so badass.
@Polkametal666
@Polkametal666 Жыл бұрын
They are awesome, Fear Factory is the band I have seen more live than any other. And by time this year end I would have seen them twice in a year after a long ass absence…sooo good.
@subparnaturedocumentary
@subparnaturedocumentary Жыл бұрын
seen them a few times as a teen, ozzfest 98 and 99 and also in 99 with system of a down! so good live
@robertoso8796
@robertoso8796 Жыл бұрын
i saw them in vegas w soilwork and it was a great show but the sound was terrible. i still have my ff terminator shirt that says "fuck you, asshole." they're actually hometown heroes, they grew up where i'm from.
@toddb3414
@toddb3414 Жыл бұрын
Same. Just saw them with Milo singing at The Whisky. They sound great!!!
@brettblose1658
@brettblose1658 Жыл бұрын
Fear Factory is for sure solid. Still listen to them often so they aged well.
@Ivegotsomewater81
@Ivegotsomewater81 Жыл бұрын
Finn is back with his godawful yet enjoyable to watch hot takes.
@DJPhillthy
@DJPhillthy Жыл бұрын
So accurate!
@themarkedman72
@themarkedman72 Жыл бұрын
you just summed up the Finn modus operandi perfectly, respect!!
@Ffmt-ri3ti
@Ffmt-ri3ti Жыл бұрын
Yep, he literally put Dr Pepper in F tier
@Ivegotsomewater81
@Ivegotsomewater81 Жыл бұрын
@@Ffmt-ri3ti Yeah I watched that video, L. Calling Prong and Pantera racist, Double L.
@robwalsh9843
@robwalsh9843 Жыл бұрын
I wanted to cry when he brought Helmet down another tier. Seriously...Finn loves some hardcore, emo and pop punk bands with HORRID vocals and he can't get past Page Hamilton's singing voice?
@crnocommentary
@crnocommentary Жыл бұрын
Helmet is one the most underrated bands of all time along with handsome
@stagecoachrobbery
@stagecoachrobbery Жыл бұрын
Helmet was a HUGE influence on Dimebag after he heard them and a good bit of the reason why they switched to a more 'groove' style direction. But I do agree with Fin on this one (for once). I could never get over dude's singing. I wouldn't label it as 'bad' like Fin does, but it's kind tough for me to swallow.
@percd
@percd Жыл бұрын
For sure
@followforms
@followforms Жыл бұрын
Helmet is S tier for sure.
@robwalsh9843
@robwalsh9843 Жыл бұрын
Finn loves hardcore yet forgets when just about every hardcore band and their grandmother were adopting Helmet riffs.
@devenscience8894
@devenscience8894 9 ай бұрын
@@stagecoachrobbery Finn roasting on the vocals... I don't get it. A little rough, maybe, but slayer is loved by most, and they have some of the worst vocals in metal history.
@nunchuksteev9811
@nunchuksteev9811 Жыл бұрын
For the record, the Carnivore track "Race War" is an anti conflict song. The lyrics reflect that if you listen to the whole song, its a great song honestly. Peter Steele was a fan of classic Black American musicians and frequented the House of Blues. And not putting Fear Factory on S or A tier is just ignorant, they literally laid the blueprint that every modern band uses today from the riffing to the clean vs harsh vocals. Big L dude.
@derrickkowalewski9239
@derrickkowalewski9239 Жыл бұрын
I can definitely see that Race War could have been anti racist. It does make it look futile as the song progresses. However, early on is the opposite and it's easy to see how Nazi skinheads would see it as a battle cry.
@bastogne1327
@bastogne1327 Жыл бұрын
Type O Negative also had a song, don't remember if it's called "Kill All the White People" but that's the gist of the song. They're definitely not racists.
@tobins6800
@tobins6800 Жыл бұрын
Not to mention guitar tone in general. Mesa cab with an SM-57.
@injusticesystem5685
@injusticesystem5685 Жыл бұрын
Peter Steele understood how to get people exposed to Type-O or Carnivore. Just look up the lyrics of "We hate everyone": Peter was a personified marketing masterclass and already understood during Carnivore, that dark humor would generate exposure.
@michaelbashford2733
@michaelbashford2733 10 ай бұрын
Fear factory not A or S tier? Thanks for saving me from wasting time watching this video 😂
@bananaempijama
@bananaempijama Жыл бұрын
Prong is goddamn awesome. Deserve way more recognition
@Vynterchilld
@Vynterchilld Жыл бұрын
Pantera & FNM are still on my playlist. That stuff will always sound fresh to me. Maybe 'cause Phil and Mike are both exceptional singers, can't stand subpar vocals.
@elikerr785
@elikerr785 Жыл бұрын
I wasn't ever a metal head but the metal part of me still listens to both Pantera and FNM.
@YoungDeathWish
@YoungDeathWish Жыл бұрын
It’s kind of subjective though. What one person might consider exceptional another might not.
@Vynterchilld
@Vynterchilld Жыл бұрын
@@YoungDeathWish I'm pretty sure most fans of metal or music in general, including experts like legitimate voice coaches, know how good Phil Anselmo and Mike Patton are. Range, technique - all of it. Now, one's TASTE is definitely subjective, if we're talking about that in particular. Someone f.e. may love Axl Rose's voice, but I personally think it's grating.
@daikiraihatesu
@daikiraihatesu Жыл бұрын
@@YoungDeathWishyes it is subjective, but people have been studying singing for hundreds of years if not more. The technique and range that they have is just better, maybe subjectively, but technique wise objectively. If it’s not in someones taste, I understand, but the talent and skill is undeniable.
@feargm
@feargm Жыл бұрын
Phil and Mike are goated. easily two of the best vocalists of all time
@tweezersalad4075
@tweezersalad4075 Жыл бұрын
Strapping Young Lad’s 90s albums were also great. Recommend to fans of Fear Factory
@WilliamSussman
@WilliamSussman Жыл бұрын
Basically any Devin Townsend
@tweezersalad4075
@tweezersalad4075 Жыл бұрын
@@WilliamSussman Ocean Machine GOATed
@DustyDigits
@DustyDigits Жыл бұрын
SYL did Fear Factory better than Fear Factory. Both great bands, but SYL were the absolute shit
@tetfol3315
@tetfol3315 Жыл бұрын
Also Mnemic
@mpk33
@mpk33 Жыл бұрын
Gene fucking Hoglan, The Atomic Clock!
@butchvito
@butchvito Жыл бұрын
Crowbar and Acid Bath. Never achieved any type of commercial success but both heavily influential. Crowbar wrote two of their best albums in the height of nu-metal. Odd Fellows and Sonic Excess. They're still kicking ass today.
@kesdunu937
@kesdunu937 Жыл бұрын
That Body Hammer riff has been giving me chills since its release. I had no idea how influential Demanufacture was when it was released and I was 12. But damn does that album slap something fierce. Soul of a New Machine had some very serious jams on it, too.
@DrDipsh1t
@DrDipsh1t Жыл бұрын
Fear Factory will always hold a special place in my heart. Found them through the Test Drive video games as a kid and fell in love with them.
@connerstines1578
@connerstines1578 Жыл бұрын
Those two Carnivore albums are the absolute top tier metal in my VERY small list of that stuff I come back to. Masterpieces, even if a bit cheesy on the first one. Always was a huge Type O fan, basically all of Pete's projects are top tier to me.
@M1n0rXxXthr3aT
@M1n0rXxXthr3aT Жыл бұрын
Carnivore fucking rips!
@soulcrusher807
@soulcrusher807 Жыл бұрын
Problem is, in context of this tier list is Carnivore are an 80's band. Type O are 90's.
@ProblematicExistence
@ProblematicExistence Жыл бұрын
Listening to Pantera is like getting puched in the face. Listening to Fear Factory is like getting sliced to pieces by lasers.
@atvena
@atvena Жыл бұрын
Messhugah ?
@anthonyvelarde8837
@anthonyvelarde8837 3 ай бұрын
Fear factory so understated doe
@noizetrauma242
@noizetrauma242 Жыл бұрын
I saw Fear Factory at the Whiskey A Go Go before Demanufacture came out. They played all but one song off Soul of a New Machine. Machine Head opened for them (as well as Clutch). Brujeria made an appearance. It was a great concert. Burton pulled me on stage to yell "Suffer Bastard" during Martyr. Then about 8 months later, I saw them again and they played three songs off the yet-unreleased Demanufacture. Usually I don't like when a band plays unreleased stuff live because it's unfamiliar. But I remember how hard Self Biased Resistor hit live having never even heard the song. I recognized it instantly when the album came out 5 months later. A couple months before Demanufacture came out, I met Dino at Bionic Records in Fullterton, CA and he gave me a promo copy of the album and signed it. They're a huge part of my youth and early adulthood.
@noizetrauma242
@noizetrauma242 Жыл бұрын
@@AgentBeans That's exactly the same compilation I first heard them on. That and Death's cover of God of Thunder were great!
@noizetrauma242
@noizetrauma242 Жыл бұрын
@@AgentBeans I'd forgotten Cynic was on there. I drove all over LA trying to find their album. Finally, afer 100+ miles of driving, I found it at Tower Records on audio cassette. I listened to the shit out of that tape. Focus was way ahead of its time.
@pancakeburglar9361
@pancakeburglar9361 Жыл бұрын
Early 90s Alt Metal and Groove Metal are easily some my favorite sub genres in metal, just so damn good! Machine Head has to be at least B tier, sure they have some misses that are bad but Burn My Eyes and The Blackening are S tier metal albums.
@raregrimebeats1352
@raregrimebeats1352 Жыл бұрын
Blackening came out in the 90s?
@shabasa613
@shabasa613 Жыл бұрын
Helmet was a game changer for heavy music when they came out. 'A Tier' at least.
@vikkithompson7504
@vikkithompson7504 Жыл бұрын
It’s insane how good all the 90s metal bands were and how the music still holds up. The majority of either my favorite bands and/or favorite albums are from 90s metal powerhouses. Looking forward to part two.
@reaverofsouls
@reaverofsouls Жыл бұрын
Fellow Fear Factory stan here. 25 years of Obsolete as of today, good sir. Helluva live show, and God damn. One of my all time faves.
@kevindie
@kevindie Жыл бұрын
*_Shock, in my humble opinion, is the heaviest song ever written. Any new speaker system I get, it’s tradition that Shock is the first song played through it._*
@stagecoachrobbery
@stagecoachrobbery Жыл бұрын
The problem with Fear Factory is that Demanufacture, Obsolete, and Archetype are fucking S-tier gold. The rest of their albums are pretty much dog shit. I bought every album from Soul of a New Machine through Mechanize. They are very hit or miss.
@CrewsOfficial
@CrewsOfficial Жыл бұрын
Helmet holds up just fine. You are crazy.
@TraceVandal
@TraceVandal Жыл бұрын
Tell me you've only listened to one Helmet record without telling me you've only listened to one Helmet record....Dude has a killer voice, especially when he gets into the more drunkard style like the Size Matters album.
@FinnMckentyPRMBA
@FinnMckentyPRMBA Жыл бұрын
I have heard everything they’ve ever done. Bought the “meantime” 7” before the album came out and was a huge fan for many years. John stanier is one of my favorite drummers of all time.
@bushleague3472
@bushleague3472 Жыл бұрын
I'd agree that the singers voice isnt Rob Zombie terrible, but its just not a good metal voice. Put that voice in a terrible late 90's post-grunge band, and it works pretty much better.
@noah-327
@noah-327 19 күн бұрын
@@bushleague3472 cause theyre not a metal band theyre post hardcore
@TrumpetsInMy4x12
@TrumpetsInMy4x12 Жыл бұрын
Prong was KILLER. Saw them on Prove You Wrong tour. Killer show.
@Howsoonisnow2009
@Howsoonisnow2009 Жыл бұрын
Just recently got into them even though I knew about them in the 90s. They’re now one of my favorite bands.
@str8delco589
@str8delco589 Жыл бұрын
Prong is awesome
@perfectlymisalignedwarlock
@perfectlymisalignedwarlock Жыл бұрын
I was hoping you’d mention Life of Agony. River Runs Red and Ugly pretty much got me through high school
@davidgelinas9755
@davidgelinas9755 Жыл бұрын
Yes great album
@TheArchetypeGamer
@TheArchetypeGamer Жыл бұрын
Fear Factory is a truely underrated and is a true A tier band with all their newest material is amazing.
@shortlivedglory3314
@shortlivedglory3314 Жыл бұрын
I first discovered Machine Head as a nu metal band, so that era has never bothered me. 😂
@Bogdan-jz2fr
@Bogdan-jz2fr Жыл бұрын
We need a longer version of this. There are a lot of bands and genres who should have been mentioned.
@xlnyc77
@xlnyc77 Жыл бұрын
Seeing Type O Negative and Biohazard back in the days at L'amour ( a club in Brooklyn) and those bands were from Brooklyn, was pretty damned awesome
@Jzsons
@Jzsons 9 ай бұрын
Best times,first time I seen Slayer live.
@ericsartanahorner
@ericsartanahorner Жыл бұрын
Hell yeah, Fear Factory. I got to try out for vocals for that band once.
@xdimitrije
@xdimitrije Жыл бұрын
Finn is like the uncle at the barbecue that bring his own meat to make his "special".
@ericnay7733
@ericnay7733 Жыл бұрын
And a pocket full of firecrackers
@Roadycore
@Roadycore Жыл бұрын
Self Bias Resistor still makes me want to tear apart stuff
@Brando-Lee3725
@Brando-Lee3725 4 ай бұрын
Fear Factory song Edgecrusher was catchy as hell , love it . Plus I bought a compilation disc in the early 90s with them on it with a song maybe titled Got to Get Away ? He said it all through the chorus anyways . But that was my introduction to them , but it sounded WAY more raw then later stuff . I wish I could remember the comps name now . But Included Brujeria and other upcoming bands at the time .
@that_pi_guy
@that_pi_guy Жыл бұрын
Finally the tier list I can 100% get behind. All of these bands were on constant rotation for me growing up. Fear Factory stans unite! Also its wild that Epic still gets constant rotation on the local FM rock stations. I wore that tape out in grade school...but man, nothing in their discography tops Angel Dust.
@worksofein6449
@worksofein6449 Жыл бұрын
Fear Factory have been one of , if not my favourite band since I first heard them in '96. They will always be on my A or S tier. But I can understand that those albums without Dino will always be a spot for some folks. I had most of these bands and songs on crappy n-th gen compilation dubs. I'm now gonna go and re listen to all again now.
@cjroberts2566
@cjroberts2566 Жыл бұрын
I was kinda upset that you didn't mention death metal but then I realized you can do a whole tier list for 90s death metal alone
@dmphax
@dmphax Жыл бұрын
Truth
@fernandosepulveda7297
@fernandosepulveda7297 Жыл бұрын
"death metal" get out of here.
@cjroberts2566
@cjroberts2566 Жыл бұрын
@fernandosepulveda7297 no I think I'll stay
@dmphax
@dmphax Жыл бұрын
Thank you Finn, 90s metal was a great time to be alive ❤❤❤ Faith No More A tier at The Real Thing, S tier at Angel Dust. Fear Factory SSS+ for me! Edit: Holy shit Prong!!! Still love them!
@ckoegl
@ckoegl Жыл бұрын
Man, what a superb selection of bands. Born in 1969, I had the honor to grow up with all these great bands. Pantera, Type O Negative , Fear Factory, Prong, Biohazard, Machine Head, White Zombie ... saw all of them live, and all of them are still on my rotation. Huge huge influence on everything that followed. I am mostly into Extreme Metal these days, but also RATM (the Renegades album!) and Faith No More kick serious ass.
@LightCyrus
@LightCyrus Жыл бұрын
Finally some Fear Factory and Prong love. Lol. Both are underrated. Both should be raised up one tier though.
@adamyo9003
@adamyo9003 Жыл бұрын
Soul-Crusher by White Zombie is my current 90’s metal song of choice.
@Chill-mm4pn
@Chill-mm4pn Жыл бұрын
Mf'n White Zombie🤘🏿
@brewcitymike1
@brewcitymike1 Жыл бұрын
Self Bias resistor from FF is still one of my all time fave metal songs next to Walk from Pantera. People don't realize that is there was no FF there would be no Slipknot. The heavy growl to melodic choruses and the mechine gun drumming. To rate them lower than FNM ot Type-O is blasphemy for sure.
@oregonwoodelf
@oregonwoodelf Жыл бұрын
Love Ugly Kid Joe! So underrated seriously. The first 2 albums had some really catchy, rockin, funky material🤘😎
@Rightchickenwing
@Rightchickenwing Жыл бұрын
2:11 The longest disclaimer ever. Respect Finn, your reaching out to new sponsors 🤛🤛
@theeclecticlifewithsam
@theeclecticlifewithsam Жыл бұрын
Thanks for mentioning TON and Fear Factory. Two awesome bands that don't get enough credit. Pete Steele was a big jokester and liked to troll the media. Remember, they had songs like Kill all the White People, We Hate Everyone , and Back in the USSR. They were intentionally provacative. Ah, memories 😋👍
@rob604
@rob604 Жыл бұрын
I like how all the comments are about Fear Factory lol. I feel like it’s all starting to bubble over and they’re finally getting their flowers as a Meshuggah level of influence on modern metal band
@FinnMckentyPRMBA
@FinnMckentyPRMBA Жыл бұрын
As they should!
@kfox420
@kfox420 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Terry Date produced albums for about half of the bands on this list, most of which are considered their best albums.
@jumhed994
@jumhed994 Жыл бұрын
And Andy Wallace mixed most of them
@jgdn-ow5mh
@jgdn-ow5mh Жыл бұрын
This Tier list video is on the C tier of Finn tier list videos.
@Clintob
@Clintob Жыл бұрын
Yeah I don’t think we need to rehash up old Pantera videos from a million years ago. Give me a break.
@BigSleepDogg319
@BigSleepDogg319 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love these videos. I'm 42, and these videos bring g back some really great memories. I've been saying for years. But since 9/11 the country just feels different. Different in a very bad way! Ty for the content brother. Keep it coming!
@superunknown2812
@superunknown2812 Жыл бұрын
Listening too Demanufacture for the first time in 94 was definitely mindblowing to be quite honest and Davidian was just the same.
@MilitantMe
@MilitantMe Жыл бұрын
Your tier lists are always s tier content on the tier list of tier listing
@ffreplica515
@ffreplica515 Жыл бұрын
Sweet tier list. Love your appreciation of Fear Factory and Type O.
@adrielquiroga7901
@adrielquiroga7901 Жыл бұрын
I'm from '98 and I have vivid memories of playing Demolition Racer with its Fear Factory soundtrack. Really takes me to happier times.
@eatattheafter
@eatattheafter Жыл бұрын
Maybe my favorite Finn take is the love for Fear Factory. Such an unbelievable and underrated band.
@causticgrip8329
@causticgrip8329 Жыл бұрын
Fear Factory revolutionized metal as much (if not more) as Pantera. Especially if we're talking about modern jenty style metal. They will always be S tier.
@SkippingLobster
@SkippingLobster Жыл бұрын
This was a fun video, 90's metal always hits me right in the nostalgia bone. I completely agree with your take on Ugly Kid Joe, they're probably not an objectively great band but I've always had a soft spot for them. Thanks for another great video, I'm going back to community college and your videos are always a welcome break in between my school work. Can't wait for the tier list tier list video.
@The_Director_
@The_Director_ Жыл бұрын
I don’t care about politics, talk about music
@leveretthughes5966
@leveretthughes5966 Жыл бұрын
Great list. I still love Faith No More. They were like my generation's Queen, a solid rock band with a virtuoso singer that played around with a lot of other musical styles. Type O Negative were great live and i've come to appreciate a lot of their later music. They always had a kind of trolling sense of humor, too, which I enjoy. Prong and Biohazard also great. Riffs for days. Cannot discount Fear Factory. Demanufacture was/is a classic. Some day you should make a video of just how un-Fk-withable Roadrunner Records' roster was in the 90s. Well done, Finn.
@andrewhart9310
@andrewhart9310 Жыл бұрын
I think it's worth mentioning, and Finn missed the opportunity, to point out that out of all those racist Brooklyn bands, Biohazard was openly ANTI-racist. They deserve a lot of credit for that, especially back in a time where you could be racist (at least subtly) and get away with it. They drew the opposite line in the sand and made it loud and proudly clear. Solid list, great bands, good justifications. Fear Factory has had an incredible run, but they've fallen on hard times lately; they probably deserve A tier though, especially with their influence on industrial metal. They were doing things that quite simply no one else in heavy metal was doing at the time, especially death metal (where they started). Bringing on one half of the masterminds behind Delerium to remix their metal albums into something more electronic? Absolutely crazy. I'd bump them up. I think Machine Head's peak (including Through the Ashes, the Blackening, and Locust with their first album) is A tier worthy, but man, their bad albums are BAD, and that has to be taken into account. UKJ is A tier in my heart as well, and I think they're better song writers than they were given credit for because of their humor and shtick, but they lacked staying power and impact (maybe this is where you needed a D tier lol). Helmet and Prong are legit C tier, and well justified. White Zombie didn't have the lengthy career necessary to justify a higher ranking (unless you include Rob's solo work), and honestly, they had some duds early on. Any critique of RATM ranking S tier would have to be their relatively limited run and discography. Their debut is absolute fire and hugely influential. But more longevity would have been nice. Pantera had some absolute duds to bookend their run, but their core three albums warrant S tier - as well as their influence. Super appreciate the love given Type O. Easily the best song writers on the entire list, up there with the best metal song writers of all time. Unlike most of these bands, they also had a long and hugely productive run, and with a much higher average bar for quality songs across their discography (way better, on average, than Pantera or Machine Head). A tier only because their moody goth metal / Drab Four vibe isn't going to appeal to all metal heads, but in terms of quality alone, I think they're absolutely S tier. They do have some problematic early songs, as Finn mentioned, and it's very convenient to try to excuse it all as a joke - but with Type O (like Rammstein), it's very difficult to tell when they were being serious. I suspect there's a bit of truth to those lyrics, and if they're even a little bit true, then it's too much.
@concernedliberal4453
@concernedliberal4453 Жыл бұрын
Pantera was openly antiracist too. If people would actually listen to any of the lyrics on the Vulgar album rather than focusing on out-of-context-clips like this one, they would know that.
@matthewkinev7615
@matthewkinev7615 Жыл бұрын
I'm just going to say, been a fan of Type O since '96. Was never a goth person, was first exposed to them by a sampler cd that had 'My Girlfriend's Girlfriend' that was packaged with some magazine in late '96. Became a huge fan and researched them a lot, mainly because i find Pete to be an interesting person, and it's one of those deals where I was curious who the people behind the writing were. Anyways what took so long getting to is that with all the things I've seen, read, heard, basically if it's not clearly about something obvious, mostly themes of love, family, some of the demons they dealt with, don't take it seriously at all. Pete by all accounts was kind, personable and a stand up guy, with a wickedly sharp and dark sense of humor and a serious love of stirring the pot. I don't think there was any real racism there. Just some trolling lyrics for shock value...
@hands_media
@hands_media Жыл бұрын
People say Car Bomb is ripping off Meshuggah, but I think they're biting at Fear Factory
@fightrudyfight5799
@fightrudyfight5799 Жыл бұрын
These bands went PERFECT with Paul Heyman’s Extreme Championship Wrestling. Brutal riffs and extreme wrestling matches. 🔥
@subparnaturedocumentary
@subparnaturedocumentary Жыл бұрын
i legit knew that prong song from justin credibles walk out
@fightrudyfight5799
@fightrudyfight5799 Жыл бұрын
@@John_Souls yea Paul Heyman had to or get covers but it definitely added to the grunge and violence to the ECW product. It was amazing for its time.
@subparnaturedocumentary
@subparnaturedocumentary Жыл бұрын
@@John_Souls one of them came out to rage against the machine i forget mikey whipwreck or one of the dudleys
@DakodaOK
@DakodaOK Жыл бұрын
I would've thrown Melvins up there for their work on Houdini. Phenomenal album, as nasty as riffs really get for the early 90s for a band not named Pantera or TOOL.
@HenryRuins
@HenryRuins Жыл бұрын
STRICKLY6 saying Fear Factory didn't really have a mainstream hit WRONG Linchpin was 31 on the Billboard Mainstream Rock chart in 2001 and Cars (Gary Numan cover that had him featured in the song and in the music video) was No. 16 on the Billboard Mainstream Rock chart in 1999
@shaggy7327
@shaggy7327 Жыл бұрын
Was sad not to see Corrosion of Conformity, awesome riffs.
@jnbovee
@jnbovee 10 ай бұрын
Demanufacture was my first metal CD I got. I was in 6th grade. Thank God for the Mortal Kombat soundtrack
@DrScrambles
@DrScrambles Жыл бұрын
Man Ugly Kid Joe takes me back to riding my bike to school listening to UKJ on my CD player on my way to school in 5th grade. Found this gem in my dad's CD collection as a kid
@cmurockstar
@cmurockstar Жыл бұрын
The first RATM album was their best. Definitely holds up.
@lidiaspazzard
@lidiaspazzard Жыл бұрын
@@ghost_mall The Battle of Los Angeles just sounded so generic by the time it came out. Morello really is a one trick pony, and this album sounds like they are ripping off themselves. There's only so much you can do with the minor pentatonic scale, but Morello beat that horse all the way into Audioslave. Perhaps if it had come out first, it would have been better, but it really was a let down because it was just the same old sound just no where near as good. Here's my ranking: RATM: 10/10 Evil Empire: 8.5/10 Battle of LA: 6/10 Renegades: 7/10 (purely because it was different)
@Mike-ix5sv
@Mike-ix5sv Жыл бұрын
None of their albums hold up. RATM is awesome when you're an angry teenager. Then you grow up, realize they are a bunch of Commies and it doesn't land the same. Factor in they are/were successful, they are also major hypocrites ( champagne socialists )
@atvena
@atvena Жыл бұрын
First 3 albums are great
@mattwhite399
@mattwhite399 Жыл бұрын
Bring this one back, Finn! Ton of bands left to do!
@jasonbates2687
@jasonbates2687 Жыл бұрын
Someone letting the N word slip is far less offensive than you saying GD constantly.
@willsnavycut
@willsnavycut Жыл бұрын
Gotdamn! Finally some love for Fear Factory. Favourite metal band of all time.
@mediocore808
@mediocore808 Жыл бұрын
Raymond Herrera is such an underrated drummer. One of the best in metal
@mikespearwood3914
@mikespearwood3914 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, gets hardly any credit or respect at all.
@rig-zag
@rig-zag Жыл бұрын
My first metal concert ever was Rob Zombie, Monster Magnet and Fear Factory in 98.. ON HALLOWEEN! Didn't realize how epic that was at the time, but wow. In retrospect that's how you kick off a lifelong love of 90s metal.
@yungtrunks1194
@yungtrunks1194 Жыл бұрын
How old were you then?
@rig-zag
@rig-zag Жыл бұрын
@@yungtrunks1194 sixteen
@guysmith9353
@guysmith9353 Жыл бұрын
Faith No More is the best band you talked about! Angel Dust is a classic!
@shakymctwitch8615
@shakymctwitch8615 Жыл бұрын
Faith No More is whatever tier is above S. And it isn't even close.
@ProgrammedForDamage
@ProgrammedForDamage Жыл бұрын
I would have Fear Factory as A, if not S tier. Demanufacture completely changed my perspective on what I wanted from metal. Seen them live many times, but you never forget your first. It was at an open-air festival, which I didn't think would translate to their style. Boy was I wrong!
@sleeperandthejest
@sleeperandthejest Жыл бұрын
Im not sure if youve seen machine head live but they deserve to be up there with the A's i believe fear factory should be there too based on live performances
@SithCats
@SithCats Жыл бұрын
I have two arguments with this list: 1. Fear Factory deserves to be at least one tier higher, maybe two. 2. I would argue that Faith No More is rock, not metal, and therefore doesn't need to be on this list at all. In terms of overall quality I wouldn't argue with the tier you put them on, but I don't think they need to be on the list any more than, say, Soundgarden does.
@darrellmarcks6304
@darrellmarcks6304 Жыл бұрын
We all wore goggles because of Linda Perry. I blame Nine Inch Nails for that "Mad Max beyond Thunderdome" fashion.
@Retro-2-now
@Retro-2-now Жыл бұрын
I remember when Logan from Machinehead was playing in Soul Fly back in like 1998. We met them when my friends band was on tour and played an off date of Ozfest in Clinton Iowa. I was 20 and got to sit at the bar with Lemmy playing one of those “crack machine” bar games, got coffee with almost all of Coal Camber, told Whitfield Crane I would beat his ass, and some other memorable stuff. We also met Logan because Soul Fly was playing. About a month later, my friends band opened for Soul Fly in our hometown Jacksonville Florida at Milk Bar. We didn’t know if, but we drank all Logan’s beer 🤷🏻‍♂️ he was cool about it, even laughing, but we still bought him more beer
@SegaCDUniverse
@SegaCDUniverse Жыл бұрын
I like all these bands, I can care less about their politics and opinions. People now say way worse but only some are criticized. That being said, Faith No More deserves to be in the S tier! Hands down ;)
@Mike-ix5sv
@Mike-ix5sv Жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more. Political correctness is fascism disguised as manners- george Carlin
@mikespearwood3914
@mikespearwood3914 Жыл бұрын
FNM & FF are both clearly S Tier for mine!
@friendlypirahna
@friendlypirahna Жыл бұрын
Prong is so underrated. I love Prong. Even their newer stuff slams to me. Great list Papa Finn
@str8delco589
@str8delco589 Жыл бұрын
Cleansing is a phenomenal album
@friendlypirahna
@friendlypirahna Жыл бұрын
@@str8delco589 definitely. Though my personal favorite album of Prong's is actually Ruining Lives
@str8delco589
@str8delco589 Жыл бұрын
@@friendlypirahna they are wildly underrated for some strange reason
@tylerbrittan593
@tylerbrittan593 Жыл бұрын
Alright, let’s be real. We need a tier list of your tier lists.
@atvena
@atvena Жыл бұрын
This comment deserves more likes
@tylerbrittan593
@tylerbrittan593 Жыл бұрын
@@atvena Haha, thanks. Thought it would make for a funny video. Lol.
@thefan1629
@thefan1629 Жыл бұрын
Man you need to get into NIN. The Fragile and The downward spiral are amomg the greatest albums of all time. They would easily be S-Tier.
@justinbrown4607
@justinbrown4607 Жыл бұрын
Good call on Faith No More: Angle Dust was an S tear album butt that was definitely the high water mark.
@RatelHBadger
@RatelHBadger Жыл бұрын
Dave approves of Dave being the sponsor for this video. Thanks from Dave!
@ArtHazard
@ArtHazard Жыл бұрын
The irony of "Sargent D" giving old bands shit for being politically incorrect.
@ShiningCardsandCollectibles
@ShiningCardsandCollectibles Жыл бұрын
you did fear factory dirty and you know it. I am DISGUSTED and taking my ball and going home.
@christianhackl474
@christianhackl474 Жыл бұрын
Yoo let's goo, I also love Fear factory. Absolutely agree, they deserve way more attention and appreciation! Overall, but Especially for their older albums! Great great Band Plus, machine head imo deserves the B or A tier spot on the list, same with fear factory
@TelesPlayMetal
@TelesPlayMetal Жыл бұрын
I saw Whitfield Crane from UKJ fronting Life of Agony in 1996, opening for Megadeth and Machine Head in some 1000 person venue in San Diego. I remember being pretty impressed and I was a huge UKJ fan when the EP came out in the 7th grade.
@bryanmchugh1307
@bryanmchugh1307 10 ай бұрын
Type O and Fear Factory need to go up there with Pantera. Type O and FF are the only other platinum artists besides Pantera on your list.
@free-fangs
@free-fangs Жыл бұрын
Fear Factory sounds like a AA battery given musical sentience
@lilchris42424
@lilchris42424 Жыл бұрын
I've said this a couple months ago, i think we deserve a year end tier list tier list
@FURTHER_ADO
@FURTHER_ADO Жыл бұрын
"hehe is this that band Schlong?" " Snap your fingers, snap your neck? I can do that .... Oh God, I did it wrong. Butthead help me "
@fail_master_z
@fail_master_z Жыл бұрын
Poppa Finn dancing to Epic is what I needed today 😂.
@xenos_n.
@xenos_n. Жыл бұрын
Prong deserves higher than C, they're such an underrated band... And you said Rude Awakening was their last album but they reformed and released a ton of music after Rude Awakening, though their first incarnation was definitely their best era.
@blvcksilvnce
@blvcksilvnce 9 ай бұрын
9:47 that could be used as a PanterA pun because Pantera had a song called "Heresy" of they're 1990 album *Cowboys From Hell*
@GenXdad75
@GenXdad75 Жыл бұрын
I met Peter Steel in 96. Nicest rock star I ever met yet a huge intimidating guy.
@deadinthewater218
@deadinthewater218 6 ай бұрын
Faith no More Fear Factory and Helmet S tier all day
@MikeA817
@MikeA817 Жыл бұрын
Funniest thing about Finn's tier lists is that he makes salient arguments for the grades. Couple i disagree with but only a single tier up or down.
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