.22LR or 12 gauge? Let me know in the comments! Don’t forget the subscribe and thumbs up. Thanks!
@Dadlife9112 жыл бұрын
Savage 24 in 22 over 410! Haha problem solved. A 410 slug would work well on the occasional deer also
@johnnydookes77692 жыл бұрын
12 gauge definitely. Between the different types of shot you can take any game in north America. Would use my stevens bolt action 12g with the adjustable choke. A relic but reliable.
@Valorius2 жыл бұрын
Neither. A .38/357 magnum lever action is quite arguably the very best possible option for a survival/SHTF rifle.
@Valorius2 жыл бұрын
@@williampratt4791 If you're in grizzly bear or mountain lion country? Run into two legged predators (who are statistically the biggest threat in the woods, which most people don't realize)? A .22 bolt action is objectively a very very limiting choice.
@Valorius2 жыл бұрын
@@Dadlife911 That's a decent choice.
@williamirelan93322 жыл бұрын
12 gauge single with a 22lr adapter plus a brass adapter for primers used for dog training lets me use it as a muzzleloader. The. 22 adapter can also be used for muzzleloading with blanks from my powerhammer as ignition. I also carry a home made hand loading kit for the shot shells with number 5 shot buckshot and. 69 cal. Musket balls. The barrel is full length as cutting it also reduces range and accuracy. The barrel has a rib on which I've installed turkey sights and marked the .22 adapter so I can orient it the same way to gain consistency and accuracy. I don't kneed the fashion statement so I don't waste my time weaving a sling I wrap cordage around the stock and use an adjustable sling that can be used over t shirt or parka. If conflict is expected I grab the pump.
@blakebeaton58213 ай бұрын
I had never thought of using the 22 adapter with nail gun blanks for muzzle loading before, that is actually a great idea.
@dustinmartindale7482 Жыл бұрын
Nice build. I would definitely pick a .22 over the 12 ga. Simply due to the reasons you mentioned. When it comes to a survival situation more ammo is always better than less.
@volkertc Жыл бұрын
.22 bolt action. One of those kids training rifles. They are short enough to fit inside a big backpack, and if you take them apart then they will fit into a medium ruck too. And you can carry a boat load of ammo.
@ike82366 ай бұрын
For the sling, get the wazoo cache belt and make a sling out of that. That way you can use the stock for more ammo and rifle related gear and survival gear inside the sling.
@ONThree6 ай бұрын
Genius!!
@PaulPecoraro-j5m Жыл бұрын
I used heat-shrink tubing to store ammo and oil should work.
@laxdrew92 жыл бұрын
I like the twelve ga because I can hunt everything and be formidably defended against almost anything
@RyanGr33n Жыл бұрын
I have a .22 single shot for my “emergency” gun. I keep .22 LR, .22 shorts as well as .22 birdshot on hand. Space inside the stock for a Mylar blanket, lighter, water tablets, flashlight and a knife. I also added a stock pouch holding everything needed for the gun along with ammo. It’s a shotgun stock pouch, which means the elastic loops are sized to hold Rx pill canisters. I have 6 canisters, two each for fire starting and first aid, one for fishing and one for making a slingshot with steel ammo. Added a similar sling made with 100’ of 550 tinder cord. Added a horizontal-carry belt pouch onto the sling with a multitool. It’s pretty heavy, but it lives in the back window of my truck so if I need to hike it home any distance I can grab my backpack and my gun and go.
@ONThree Жыл бұрын
Love it!
@erolkavlakverizon61122 жыл бұрын
Jason, people are flabbergasted that you are spray painting a Henry!!! Oh the agony...lol
@ONThree2 жыл бұрын
It did hurt a little.
@honeybadgeractual2 жыл бұрын
Jason, yes please!!! It would be AMAZING if you could show how to weave the paracord sling!!! Awesome idea!!!
@ONThree2 жыл бұрын
I’ll see what I can do.
@honeybadgeractual2 жыл бұрын
@@ONThree that'll be awesome if you can find the time!!! Say, how is Mr Kay doing?... I haven't seen him in a long while, hope all is well with him...and if it's not too much to ask, and if you all are still socializin.... please let him know some of us miss him and his personality with yours.. some good wholesome humor in these stressful times gives the heart some joy and hope!.. not that I don't enjoy your positivity of course 😂🤣
@ONThree2 жыл бұрын
@@honeybadgeractual Alan has never been much for socializing. He is good, just busy.
@honeybadgeractual2 жыл бұрын
@@ONThree hahaha I can respect that, upsetting part is that he's got that wealth of knowledge he could share... However, if I were in his boots, looking at today's society with their humorous... I'd probably smile and nod, thinkin "bless your soul"... it's upsetting tho (coming from my side) seeing the couch critics going at people like you and him who are out there doing the things, and correcting ever step as if to claim there's only 1 right way 😡.. I'm glad to see some are comfortable with sharing their knowledge and experience like you!.. anyway thank you and let Alan know (if you think of it) that some of us miss his subtle humor and wealth of knowledge..
@CurtisDrew1 Жыл бұрын
I have both a 22 cal and 9mm insert in my 12ga shotgun buttstock. I use a wide rifle sling that I can attach pistol magazine pouches onto. And thats how I carry my ammo for my inserts. I put my pistol ammo in magazine that match the pistols I own. My inserts are carried in bored holes in the wood stock. I use either a rubber buttstock pad or just a single screw on the buttplate( epoxied in) so I can swivel the buttplate aside to access the inserts.
@benburns59952 жыл бұрын
Jason, interesting video about building a gun. That was very creative in using the leafy stem when painting, to create a design.
@ONThree2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@jimclercx42082 жыл бұрын
still can't get past spray painting a Henry! special level of Daunte's Inferno for you Sir!
@ONThree2 жыл бұрын
I know, I know. I did a bad thing.
@maxpinson50022 жыл бұрын
It doesn't bother me After many decades of dragging beautifully finished expensive firearms through the briars and in the worst kind of weather, I've realized that my firearms are tools, just like a hammer or a shovel. To be used and not abused
@Martinwebb3eaglerandomocity2 жыл бұрын
have you looked at the shotgun adapters i have 3 for my 12 ga. .38, 9 mm and 22 all of them work fantastic
@ONThree2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I have a few. The 8” .22 is pretty effective.
@117anarchist2 жыл бұрын
I'd take a single shot twelve gauge with barrel inserts for various ammo types including .22. More versatile that way and you don't have to choose one or the other!
@Valorius2 жыл бұрын
those inserts are quite inaccurate because the insert spins opposite to the rifling when the round is fired.
@ONThree2 жыл бұрын
I have had a 8” .22lr adaptor for over 10 years. I have had really good luck with it.
@Valorius2 жыл бұрын
@@ONThree Does it lock into place in the breech to prevent counter rotation? The 8" might help a lot even if it doesn't because it probably has enough mass to counter the torque applied by a small .22LR projectile.
@maxpinson50022 жыл бұрын
The barrel adapters I've used have o-rings to hold it in place and don't shift with any shots. They're plenty accurate for what they are and you can take game at reasonable ranges. No, they don't constitute a target rifle, but in a shtf scenario you won't be making long range shots and you'd be avoiding firefights at all costs.
@ONThree2 жыл бұрын
@@Valorius It locks into place when you close the breach. I rotate it so it is at 6 o’clock and it shoots very consistently. Probably average 2 inch groups at 25 yards with just an oversized bead sight.
@alb5753 Жыл бұрын
The paracord sling is sweet, for any survival weapon it’s a must.
@ONThree Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Mtlk772 жыл бұрын
Any thoughts on the Rossi Rio bravo that already has a polymer stock?
@ONThree2 жыл бұрын
I don’t have any experience with that one.
@Mtlk772 жыл бұрын
@@ONThree thanks for the reply
@ecorey452 жыл бұрын
I just bought a bolt action 22 since I love my pump action 22 but it's old as hell since it was my grandmother's varmint rifle that came with her matching 12 gauge
@ONThree2 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@ncmountainmama73502 жыл бұрын
Please do a video on making that awesome sling!
@ONThree2 жыл бұрын
I just might do that!
@bayouflats50542 жыл бұрын
It already is single breakdown 12 with stack & pack caliber kit in stock. 😁
@Followme5562 жыл бұрын
Pro tip i picked up in another video on tactical rifleman from the Green beret who literally wrote the manual for SERE school: Chap stick is a good lubricant for firearms and is also a good fire starter. And it makes your lips feel so nice. +10 to morale. lol
@ONThree2 жыл бұрын
Good idea!
@Followme5562 жыл бұрын
@@ONThree I knew it was a firestarter, but i'd never thought about the lubing firearms aspect, which makes sense. It's basically a light grease.
@erolkavlakverizon61122 жыл бұрын
My Savage bolt action, .22lr. Because it is easy to maintain, fairly quiet, and I can hit golf balls at 75 yards with the open sights. The weight of both the rifle and ammo is much less than even my single shot .410.
@ONThree2 жыл бұрын
Great choice!
@rooftopnegotiator35622 жыл бұрын
22 all the way, as you already said, you can take animals all the way up to Deer
@TressaZimmerman2 жыл бұрын
Please do, a video on making the paracord sling. Thanks.
@ONThree2 жыл бұрын
I might do that soon.
@TressaZimmerman2 жыл бұрын
@@ONThree cool
@garysapper87162 жыл бұрын
Jason - I cringed when I saw those tiny black screws from the stock & butt plate. Please drill a few 1/4" holes on the side of your stock and superglue some round neodymium magnets flush. This will hold those removed screws. Having dropped screws in dirt and leaves while fieldstripping, I have spent many hours searching for one that fell into the leaves.
@ONThree2 жыл бұрын
Ha! Good call.
@Followme5562 жыл бұрын
That's a good pro tip.
@johnthomasjr2622 жыл бұрын
I only say 22LR because I have a 1022 takedown that easily fits into my pack. But I love the 12ga so much that I keep one in my car all the time.
@tamadrummer0012 жыл бұрын
22 mag for us. It’s light, can carry massive amounts of rounds even just in your pocket loose and it will quietly put food on the table. Well at least more quiet than a 12 gauge. Lol
@ONThree2 жыл бұрын
Love the .22 mag. The first rifle I ever bought was a .22mag.
@Followme5562 жыл бұрын
I think that's a really solid choice.
@chadwinford25602 жыл бұрын
Definitely the deuce deuce!!! It’s the best all around critter getter and I have to agree with you Jason, give me the manual transmission any day over automatic! 1 box of 50 .22lr is about the size and weight of 2-3 shot shells. Great video, thanks for your time.
@tomritter4932 жыл бұрын
Mine options are 12 and 22 next would be 9mm and 3030 now pistol I have 357 emergency pistol .and a 22 in a shoulder rig oh side note we were taught single shot or bolt 22 supress the urge to over fire stress one shot option
@98xj642 жыл бұрын
Shot placement is everything, .22 unless you have bipedal threats then 5.56
@JACKBLACKTOSE7 ай бұрын
Great video, I really appreciate the content you are putting out Jason. If i can though, I'd actually argue that manual actions may be worse in a survival situation. The force exerted on the bolt of a semi-autimatic firearm makes it much more likely to run (or to push through the carbon/dirt) that will accumulate over time. You could also argue that the ease of disasembling/maintaining your firearm is more important thab whether it is semi-auto or manually operated. A bolt action is very easy to maintain in the field, as is a 10/22 if you stick an alleb wrench in your pack. A lever action, however, may be more complicated to maintain given the number of small components you need to remove to fully disassemble the firearm.
@ONThree7 ай бұрын
Valid points!
@blakebeaton58213 ай бұрын
I would say any form of combination gun would be my go to, 22lr/410, 22wmr/410, 22wmr/20G, 22lr/12G, 22wmr/12G are all options that I have seen available and all would be great options, though, my personal choice would be 22wmr/12G since it would give me the best range options for what game I could take in a survival situation and 22wmr is not that much larger or heavier than 22lr and 12G is much more useful for large/dangerous animals.
@MarlinWilliams-ts5ul6 ай бұрын
Dude, you should start a business making those slings. I'd buy 3.
@ONThree6 ай бұрын
Possibly. Thanks for the idea!
@richwallace46322 жыл бұрын
Have you considered adapters for your H&R so you can shoot other calibers?
@ONThree2 жыл бұрын
I love my 8” .22 adapter. Had it over 10 years now. Pretty effective.
@summitgoons27442 жыл бұрын
.22lr is a great option for survival! One of the biggest reasons for me is that it's quiet enough to not need hearing protection. Too many people think AK or AR for shtf but that's assuming you'll always have your hearing protection. And then you'll be deaf to any threats/prey around you if you have earmuffs on
@ONThree2 жыл бұрын
Good point!
@summitgoons27442 жыл бұрын
@@ONThree 12ga will make you deaf after like 10 shots without hearing protection lol been there done that 😂
@Followme5562 жыл бұрын
I personally would never go under a .22 magnum.
@theguywitheyebrows2 жыл бұрын
that oil tube was an impressive idea, i have got to attest!! i hate that you painted the walnut stock, not gunna lie, i'da only scraped the finish off and oiled it all sexylike. that lever action 22 is the beesknees. great work!! id mill out the whole stock and keep a tin and such in it, but great work! hand mill at that, with a drill and chisels.
@ONThree2 жыл бұрын
“All sexylike”! Love it!
@MichaelR582 жыл бұрын
Good video and tips , thanks for sharing ,God bless !
@The_Crow_Flies2 жыл бұрын
is this a re-upload? i am having some serious deja vu with this video for some reason.
@guti68742 жыл бұрын
Same bro and I don’t remember seeing it on this channel
@ONThree2 жыл бұрын
This video was posted to Survival Dispatch a few months back. I put a lot of time into the videos so I try and get the most out of each one. Thanks for watching again!
@The_Crow_Flies2 жыл бұрын
@@ONThree ah okay that is where i seen it. Man, i was a bit confused there for a bit lol. Good video none the less.
@jasonvickers22652 жыл бұрын
Single shot 12 gauge. With the right tools it can be multi functional
@ONThree2 жыл бұрын
Agreeeeeeed!!!!
@tomritter4932 жыл бұрын
Oh hey forgot put a pencil in there somewhere its tinder and the graphite will work better as dry lube so winter it won't gum up
@ONThree2 жыл бұрын
Interesting!! Thanks!
@tomritter4932 жыл бұрын
@@ONThree oh it has to be a no2 lead
@theepicgamerultimate48316 ай бұрын
That's a tough question 12 guage or 22lr. Maybe a 20 guage. Like you I don't trust semi-autos unless it's a Glock. I have a Henry and a Rossi 22lr lever action. I'm a lever action guy I have a Winchester 94 in 30/30. However there's a new gun coming out, a Winchester Ranger 22lr lever action with an MSRP of $419, it's a takedown like the original 9422.
@JaxBaron2 жыл бұрын
Great update Jason! I love your content, one of the best instructors on YT! Can’t wait to see the wazzo gear/ 22 rifle 48 hrs survival challenge 😀😜
@ONThree2 жыл бұрын
It’s on the playlist. Thanks!
@Wheeling882 жыл бұрын
After seeing this video awhile back ,I bought a Henry 001 upgraded the sights & lever, with the intent on doing this, I don't have the balls to carve up my gun..... I love my nef12 & my Henry. I'd personally take the 12 for short term ,long term the Henry. Only due to ammo weight. Screw it MY plans are carry both.
@ONThree2 жыл бұрын
Both is a good choice!!
@PabloP1692 жыл бұрын
I am surprised that the fish hooks or the blade don't impact the compass.
@ONThree2 жыл бұрын
Me too! I placed it just passed the cavities in the stock. No issues.
@Sarge03112 жыл бұрын
What if you could have both in one rifle over under rifle
@ONThree2 жыл бұрын
Yep. Good call.
@johnlynch78346 ай бұрын
Savage model 24 22lr over a 20 gauge
@patriot-19964 ай бұрын
12g with adapter
@Valorius2 жыл бұрын
There is a lot to be said as a .38/.357 magnum lever gun as the ultimate SHTF and survival gun. A LOT.
@chris16382 жыл бұрын
Good info
@mikeseagrave36122 жыл бұрын
22 bulk
@Followme5562 жыл бұрын
Curses to whoever decided to make the 22 WMR incompatible with 22LR. Because a 22 WMR lever gun that also took 22 LR would be one hell of a great thing to have.
@ONThree2 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t agree more!
@jared78092 жыл бұрын
I think everyone should check out David Canterbury’s videos on reloading 20 gauge with pyrodex and wax. Gives the 12 new life
@ONThree2 жыл бұрын
I have done that. Works pretty good loaded with BBs.
@codycollins44152 жыл бұрын
22 lr
@evenhand77432 жыл бұрын
22LR all day.
@paulschwartz24642 жыл бұрын
Ok, a coule things. Why not just use a wood stock New England Arms single shot .22. Hollow out the stock for goodies and pack .22 bird shot along with the LR rounds. If you still want the 12 gauge, pack the interchangeable 12 gauge barrell or 20 ga or 410 or .223, etc. They are all interchangeable and gives you the versatility of multiple round styles. OR, just get a .22/12 gauge over and under with a wood stock and do the same thing. I just love those Henry lever actions too much to allow myself to purposely destroy one if I have any alternative.
@ONThree2 жыл бұрын
All good options! I actually like the Henry better this way.
@paulschwartz24642 жыл бұрын
@@ONThree I gotta ask. I have a .22 mag golden boy. Could you bring yourself to do these modification on that?
@ONThree2 жыл бұрын
@@paulschwartz2464 That one is way to pretty for me.
@dansherman74862 жыл бұрын
12 gauge I would more uses for animals
@greenmansurvival48322 жыл бұрын
A very hard choice, I think I would have to go for the shotgun just for versatility, illegal to buy slugs here so Deer are of the menu with the shotgun . I wonder what my local FAO (fire arms officer) would say if I hacked the barrel of my shotgun!! We have some very odd laws in the UK and owning fire arms is a bit tricky to say the least. It has taken a huge amount of effort to own my 308 scout, 17hmr and shotgun. FREEDOM!!
@ONThree2 жыл бұрын
Illegal to buy slugs!!!! Outrageous!!!
@hdrider20712 жыл бұрын
Look into " cut shells' or wax filled slug... strictly for survival of course.
@austinanderson84856 ай бұрын
Honestly fighting rifle and survival is differnt and many people don’t get that
@maxpinson50022 жыл бұрын
Respectfully disagree on a couple of things Just me- I want any cordage to be ready for immediate use, and not have to unravel a bracelet or a sling or a belt, etc. I realized that in the scouts many years back. After you unravel your belt, how do you hold your pants up? I never sacrifice a piece of serviceable gear. Also, I've already been the carrying extra gear on the rifle route with ammo slings, stock packs, survivor stocks, etc. All that fouls up the balance of the firearm ( to me) and isn't as rapid to access as a purpose designed and built carrier or pouch etc. Thanks for the video
@ONThree2 жыл бұрын
I can’t really imagine only having this rifle in a survival situation. If that is the case, I’ve messed up pretty bad. But it sure was fun to build.
@theguywitheyebrows2 жыл бұрын
12ga for human varmints.
@andrewmartin8086 ай бұрын
.22, more ammo!!
@thetruthpost96932 жыл бұрын
Need a slot for bacon.
@ONThree2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes! The bacon compartment.
@homeschooldaddyjournal98392 жыл бұрын
I hate reruns from SD bro...
@ONThree2 жыл бұрын
Come on man! I work really hard on these videos and try and get the most out of them. I appreciate the view and comment anyway.
@dennisseverns40142 жыл бұрын
I am one of those arborial type creatures, please don't shoot me out of the tree.
@ONThree2 жыл бұрын
Hahahahaha! No promises.
@blueridgerealtor2 жыл бұрын
12 gauge
@VisionWords2 жыл бұрын
.22 Because you can easily carry hundreds of rounds of ammo, and because it's quiet.
@NoAirBlair2 жыл бұрын
Comment
@thetruthpost96932 жыл бұрын
You win!
@ONThree2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@shanhutchison73322 жыл бұрын
I pick .22 . I'm better with my 22 than I am with my 12 guage.
@ONThree2 жыл бұрын
Good decision!
@echopapa2432 жыл бұрын
Differentiate “Survival”: -Game Hunting Rifle…this video 12 ga: #4, #7, Slug -Self Defense Rifle 12ga 00BK -Assault Rifle 5.56 12 ga is flexible and reloadable Round size/weight …..how many do you practically need to carry? Too much time with Dustin…..😉
@sajahb74442 жыл бұрын
Sweeeeet
@fatdogproductions19626 ай бұрын
22. lighter, longer range, more accurate.
@SonnyCrocket-p6h4 ай бұрын
whenever a man tells me that his very life is only worth a very few hundred $, I tend to agree with him. :-) Me, I want the very best rifle and I could not care less if it costs $2000 (including all of the accessories) I'd pay $3000 if I HAD to do so, but I"d bitch and moan a lot. :-)