The Ultimate Doom 2 - MAP20: Gotcha! (Ultra-Violence 100%)

Level submitted by TistheOnecalledJon.
Game: Doom II
PWAD: ultdoom2-2v3.2.wad
Difficulty: Ultra-Violence
Source port: DSDA-Doom 0.27.5 (-complevel 9)
Pistol start.
All kills and secrets.
No saves.
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Link to WAD:
www.doomworld.com/forum/topic...
Link to source port:
www.doomworld.com/forum/topic...
Widescreen status bars:
forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php...
Doom minor sprite fixing project:
www.doomworld.com/idgames/gra...
Submissions overview:
submissions.decino.nl/
Flyover shots powered by Cameraman:
github.com/borogk/cameraman
My Doom settings, extended HUD and more:
decino.nl/downloads
00:00 Intro
00:11 Playthrough
45:42 Outro

[@potatoboih5378]

Hello, Gardevoir here! Big thanks to the person who submitted this map, I got so happy when I saw this map being chosen and was really looking forward to seeing you give it a try. Thank you for all the kind words Decino, amazing playthrough and showcase of the level. I am taking a break from Doom mapping at the moment due to mental health issues and general burnout but I am trying my best to continue working on this project whenever I have free time. I'm glad I managed to deliver as this is definitely the biggest map I've made for the project thus far, love making big open non-linear levels and majority of UD2 is done this way. I'll do my best to eventually finish this mapset so everyone can enjoy the full version in the nearest future. Thank you again and I'm really happy you enjoyed it!

[@user-hr5rr5xr2f]

thank you for the amazing maps! ive played them and they are a blast!

[@jeisonlucio]

Thank you for your service! Take care of yourself first, hope you get back to mapping soon.

[@lukebehrendsbro.]

Your maps are really good Gardevoir! Take all the time you need bro! 👍

[@n3onkn1ght]

The way you took the Inmost Dens, one of Doom 2's most "what the fuck is this supposed to be?" maps, and made into a completely plausible railyard/office that still feels like the Inmost Dens is some incredible work. Good job.

[@kwahn106]

Gardevoir, do you play idleon? If so Hi:D

[@adre2194]

"We're gonna employ a Speed of Doom strategy" _gasp_ Could it be? "You can just leave" YYEEAAAHHHHHHHH

[@grimreaperwithalawnmower]

Finally - my strategy of running away has been legitimised

[@supertoaster5417]

13:28 no matter how much ive played doom, its still so odd (yet cool) to see the skull and key in the same slot.

[@decino]

It's a monkey face.

[@thegoldencosmos3221]

34:22 World's sturdiest Revenant, that boney boi surviving all that cracked me up xD

[@Chozo_Ghost]

Inb4 the inevitable "This map looks like how I imagined the original 'Gotcha!' looked back in '94", including from myself!

[@SkullKingofCarpathia]

It would be cool to see you do a playthrough of this WAD once it is completed

[@highsman1340]

100%

[@n3onkn1ght]

I've been saying that for years. Given how much decino says "OMG, slaughter!" and this WAD is nothing but "OMG, slaughter!"

[@TheRuinsfate]

That final cybie is quite cruelly done; narrow zigzag, pillars and that thin entryway all make it very very easy to take a clean hit from its rockets. Well done to the mapmaker there.

[@Triad2e4]

If I was going to submit a map from this wad it would have been decino's favorite map Nirvana

[@-cheesent-]

ultimate doom 2: the 3 spider masterminds

[@dinitroacetylen]

Still tier F monster.

[@-cheesent-]

@@dinitroacetylen real

[@georgeheilman885]

My biggest respects to the mapmaker for this level. It makes the original Gotcha!, one of my favorite maps, look like child's play.

[@DinnerForkTongue]

This is Gotcha if it was made for Plutonia 2.

[@KernelLeak]

38:33 You "just leave" the computer area map behind? What's next - are you gonna pick up a chainsaw? D:

[@XzMondayNightzX]

Ohh this is neat. It's like the Maps Of Chaos changes where it's same theme, and similar layout but vastly modified. 1000 times over because that's a lot of bad dudes.

[@JangianTV]

10:06 "OK, I have to improvise now." Or you could just, you know, leave! 😂

[@MrDopeKeen]

Pleaseeee decino, plan a full playthrough of this megawad once it's finished! I'd love to watch you go through these levels because you're really good at routing complex maps and planning battle strategies, and these maps allow for showcasing such skills

[@iguana9173]

I really like this gotcha better than the original.

[@SaturnineXTS]

Holy shit, looks like a WAD for me to download, deifinitely. I really like the original vibes of Doom and Doom 2, so any WADs that build off those are very welcome. Doom truly is a gift that keeps on giving haha

[@ChefSalad]

At 16:43, Decino says, "the rad suit", but I initially heard, "Tourette's Suit", which gave me an idea for a video game "power-up". The Tourette's Suit will give the player Tourette's Syndrome, but instead doing the stereotypical swearing, the suit will cause random buttons to be pressed or random jerks of the mouse, just like if you had actual Tourette's. Maybe even it'll randomly make the screen go black for a few frames as if you had the random eye-blinks/winks.

[@TheRuinsfate]

The game Void Bastards does something similar; there's traits that make your character make noise that alerts enemies. Smoker makes you cough randomly, Yahoo makes you yell excitedly when you pick up loot, stuff like that.

[@adre2194]

@@TheRuinsfate yahoo is peak game design honestly

[@T3sl4]

Leaky suit is kind of a hint of that, but one could indeed take that much farther, lol

[@airunux8556]

I love when people remake or remaster stuff like this :3

[@highsman1340]

I've replayed Ultimate Doom 2 multiple times; every single level is such an upgrade (the ones that are done, at least!). Seriously, play it. Extremely fun even if its only 3/4ths complete so far

[@fearless1000]

Wow, this is a WAD I'd love to see a full playthrough of.

[@johndoe7270]

I love re-imagined classic maps. This one, as a complete juggernaut of a map, did not disappoint. Great job!

[@Khrada]

A really nice twist for the "gotcha" fight. The ending skybox was also great. Can't wait for it to be finished!

[@Nob1ej0n]

Wow! I don't usually go for slaughtery maps, but this one felt different. It had a lot of wide open areas and kept cheesey exploits in there so fights can be played easier. But the real win here is that it still _feels_ like DOOM II. Like how D2 felt the first time playing it. Seriously, this is a really good tribute map. Very impressive. I can't imagine how hard it was to pull this off when people play so differently now and there are so many other wads out there raising the bar. Just from watching (I haven't played it yet) it felt both modern and retro. New yet familiar. I can see why it has taken so long to make. Very impressive. I know I already said those exact words, but it really is.

[@jmatki1217]

One of my favorite levels in D2, love the music track too

[@DoomMajster]

I'm actually looking forward for this project! I spend the most of my playtime on Doom2, so I'm very excited to boost that experience.

[@fender_ketchup]

Ultimate 2 is one of my top 5 megawads, it's gonna be amazing when it's done

[@mapron1]

Such a nice contrast from previous submission! Felt like best map ever made

[@worldoffood123]

Omg crazy WAD! I played this a few years back. This is easily one of the hardest levels in it. Well played!

[@shegetz6571]

Never even knew this WAD existed. Guess I found my activity for the long weekend in the UK!

[@mcbpete]

Thanks for bringing this level pack to my attention @decino and thank you @potatoboih5378 for creating such an incredible selections of levels. It may be blasphemy but I'm slowly working through the megawad using the Brutal Doom mod for enemy behaviour and weapons, and the PSX music collection as the soundtrack - Took me nearly 90 minutes to get through Level 13/Downtown, but it was possibly the best 90 minutes I've had in the 20+ years of playing Doom. Just incredible !

[@adinocc2042]

That was excellent! I'd love to see you do a playthrough of the completed WAD, whenever that is.

[@Damien.D]

What a beautiful creation. Looks so clean and polished, realistic in a way, disturbing on the other. Love how the kill count increases by itself by using infighting strategies. Seems like fighting a demon takeover of earth can be done by just starting an epic bar brawl...

[@pannomic1818]

I need to play this wad omg

[@SoundlessMound]

This map is pretty brutal. I'm looking quite forward to playing the entire wad when it's complete. Reminds me a lot of Maps of Chaos but dialled up massively.

[@jonVOA]

Really happy you enjoyed this! One of my absolute favourite WADs to play over again and hardly seems to have much attention on KZbin (beyond videos that are nearly 7-8 years old). Map 20 was, for me, a huge challenge to push through (only ever found 6 secrets if you count the special exit), so I was especially interested to see how you would tackle it. JSYK the replaced Wolfenstein SS monsters are a Dehacked version of a custom zombie monster called the Rapid Fire Trooper, which first appeared in the mixed project "Knee Deep in Zdoom". Slightly stronger than Zombiemen but weaker than a Chaingunner, they function the same as their DECORATE counterpart although in this WAD they drop only one clip instead of two.

[@JasanQuinn]

Giving a single Random revenant the same health as a Spider Mastermind sounds like the perfect "Gotcha" thing to do.

[@jojo0753]

Using both keycards and skull keys is a very creative decision. I wouldn't mind more maps doing that.

[@JadeJoestar-uy6hg]

Oh hey this was made by a pal of mine! cool to see ya get to it

[@BeheadedKamikaze]

See pinned comment 😁

[@MikamoLimo]

if there is damaging floor, u will hit the damage tick thats ur special doom talent

[@TheBrutalDoomer]

I hope the raising crushers in the pre-final room are also of unique type and can kill you, for full immersion.

[@adre2194]

"The anime fight area" 😭

[@BeheadedKamikaze]

I heard the same thing 😂 Pretty sure he said "MMA fight" though

[@Bandita1001]

19:00 "... and it brings you to oh, God."

[@Olek54321]

I think ID Software had created Nightmare! difficulty for those who said Doom is too easy. The author of this map took it even more serious and remastered map to make it more difficult (at least that's what I'm thinking) and oh boy this looks wonderful. Amazing job done by map maker! More than 1k of enemies in Doom2 map, that's incredible I always liked MIDI in Gotcha!. It's kinda weird but in positive way :D

[@frozented8110]

Getting this wad right now, thank you pumpkin dad :)

[@alexandersmith6140]

There are 60 seconds in a minute, and about 45 minutes of gameplay in this video, which is 2700 seconds of gameplay. The map has 1143 enemies. On average, you kill a monster every 2.36 seconds. Pretty sick.

[@KlausJunginger]

Imagine a mod, where monsters could heal up w/ doomguys' stuff , take his ammo (if fitting) and get hurt by damaging floor...

[@Seyron1981]

I like it more than original xD Thank you for the video!

[@dreadwanderer]

Awesome remake, very complex, overwhelming, a real test of endurance. GG!

[@smiffwilm]

Hope you decide to play it sometime when they DO finish it lol.

[@lecoindugamer7644]

I was hyped for this one this wad is pretty cool

[@nerdysoldier]

The bots are getting quicker at commenting on this channel lol

[@chesterules]

the architecture / design of this map is frickin' awesome!

[@gnort_neyugn]

Finally a good submission! Idk why this serie of submissions contains only "weird" maps so far, except this one

[@thalligator016]

I'm playing this megawad at the moment and I highly recommend checking out the reimagined map 08 tricks & traps. My mind has been blown

[@paulsibilleau3639]

Tanky Revenant, Machine Gun Zombiemen, & a Throwback to Gotcha! Very Nice, Indeed 😎

[@8diva8]

I wish I had the patience for these custom DOOM wads like you do :P

[@horst_gott]

This looks great! would love to see you do a full playthrough of the (mega)wad once it's finished

[@jamescutright9754]

Dude PLEASE do this whole wad. I love this concept.

[@bryce8718]

Future full play thru once its done?? Please??

[@Qoko88]

It's looking at something familiar, but also it isn't. I'm not TOO familiar with DOOM II, but who doesn't recognize the huge platforms in the 'anime fight (TM)' area or the circular pathway towards it. What Gardevoir does right is keeping the Romero spirit: non-linear randomness with enough pickups, yet creating a semi-surreal semi-believable environment.

[@BeheadedKamikaze]

LOL I thought he said "anime fight" too, but then I realised he was actually saying "MMA fight" 😂

[@Qoko88]

@@BeheadedKamikaze 7:14 13:08 pretty sure it is though? The 'greatest * fight of all time' is a reference to it and subtitles give it 'enemy' and 'anime' respectively, so there's definitely an n-sound in the second syllable. Maybe the Pumpkin Man himself can be so generous as to confirm 😂

[@BeheadedKamikaze]

@@Qoko88 OK that could be true, I don't know any anime references

[@decino]

Anime confirmed.

[@NekoKhris]

Thank you for the nearly 50 minutes of delicious DOOMslop, appreciate it pumpkin man

[@mikehibbett3301]

Great level

[@user-ih5jr8rt5q]

Gotcha! is an excellent coming-of-age movie from the 80s a bit of a unique movie with how it does, good stuff

[@user-ih5jr8rt5q]

definitely a project I'm interested to play

[@abecks8093]

Man those damaging floors were brutal at the beginning.

[@pleb_76]

this is where going down starts to get really tough

[@DinnerForkTongue]

(Mid-watch comment) I like the use of Message For The Arch-Vile. That's one of few non-overused Bobby Prince tracks and it fits this aesthetic really nicely. Although with the sheer scale of this map, I can't help but think End Is Nigh would've been a better midi pick. (This opinion is ignoring that the wad is a Doom II remake, natch.)

[@n3onkn1ght]

It doesn't "use" Message for the Archvile. IIRC every single map just uses the equivalent track from Doom 2.

[@jonVOA]

@@n3onkn1ght All true except for Map 11: Circle of Death/O of Destruction, which uses "Deep into the Code", and Map 25: Bloodfalls which uses "Sinister". Both from The Original Doom. EDIT: I forgot that Map 17: Tenements in UD2 uses "Demons On The Prey" for its music and the secret maps (which aren't fully finished PSX remakes of Twilight Descends and The Mansion) again have their own music.

[@DinnerForkTongue]

@@n3onkn1ght If it didn't use MftAV, it would have no music at all. You know what I meant.

[@AliceErishech]

~10:20 "Everything goes to Hell" Well this *is* Doom.

[@KernelLeak]

"Ma'am, this is a Wendy's!"

[@silverroddo1468]

Revenant, more like Resil-venant. 💀 🥊

[@illesizs]

I'd love to see a comparison playthrough of the original and ultimate Doom maps.

[@XyrxesTube]

What a great map❗️👌🏻

[@Simulation6]

Are you considering playing all of this wad in the future? It seems like it would be cool to see a re-imagination of Doom 2. I am probably going to download it and check it out but I am pretty rusty with Doom these days. Edit: I didn't see that the map maker Gardevoir had commented on the pinned comment. Looking forward to seeing it finished and good luck!

[@lepermessiah1179]

I kinda wish I had watched this video until the end before I dove head first into this WAD. I thought it was great until Barrels o Fun when I saw it was unchanged and then so was the next level, only to find upon searching for an explaination that it was unfinished. I thought I may never actually play plain ol Doom 2 again and just play this. Well, I guess that'll just be an excuse to play the first 23 levels again if the final version ever gets released.

[@DEdens1525]

Glass cannon parade.

[@tyhy1]

het gitaar rifje dat begint op 8:28 is echt het lekkerste rifje in doom 2.

[@De-M-oN]

looks like the better maps of chaos. cool.

[@RobertGee101]

Pumpkin man enjoying some free time

[@sweetcreekcommunityco-op4395]

@10:10 "...and I can just ______" ~ Guess the catchphrase kids?!?!? 😅🤣🤣🤣🙃👌

[@Muladeseis]

Hello decino, I just wanted to recommend a new (I think, or recently updated) megawad called Hispanic Community Project, it's not the same as the one megawad you played a year ago called "In Spain Only", but inspired in it, I guess. It has 43 maps! So far I have played 10 maps, and my favorite is Map 08 "Maleza del rincón". I know you have not so much time right now and that you have a website of submissions, but I think this could be a good series in the future. Cheers.

[@muhamadalshuker2475]

10:21 OMG He said Hell

[@iguana9173]

I always get annoyed when people say heck instead of hell. I’m so glad he said hell.

[@BeheadedKamikaze]

@@iguana9173 💯

[@BeheadedKamikaze]

But at this point I think he just does it to troll people like us 😆

[@KernelLeak]

What the heck? D:

[@JKRevanBR]

21:56 I thought i was watching Pumpkin Man, not Coincident =)

[@NekoKhris]

without checking the timestamp - is it a facerocket?

[@BeheadedKamikaze]

@@NekoKhris I've never known decino to shout "MEGA MEGA MEGA MEGA MEGAAAAAAA" so I'm also going to assume it's a facerocket 😂 I mean I have seen the video so I know the answer but I couldn't possibly memorise the timestamps 😅

[@JKRevanBR]

@@NekoKhris What do you think? ^^

[@lukebehrendsbro.]

So this is the extended version of map 20 & doing this as a challenge will be difficult for sure. I do remember liking map 20 so this one has alot of great designs and secrets to grab and well, it's looks really good overall. I mean of course it is better than original so I assume alot of you folks like this map for design wise and maybe gameplay I could be wrong though. 🙂

[@scottl.1568]

I want to see Cino play a map with only 100 monsters, 200 Archvilles and 800 secrets to discover... That will straighten him out double quick! 😅

[@BeheadedKamikaze]

Don't torture the Pumpkin Man. He's been nothing but a gentleman!

[@scottl.1568]

​@@BeheadedKamikazeVery true... His yellow screen explainer videos are some of the best I've ever seen...

[@jameslangridge1674]

Best way to ensure he misses secrets would be to include multiple chainsaw pickups (if possible) all over the map and some well-hidden and others not, all tagged as secrets. He would potentially only pick 1 up, under protest, and definitely not 2 or more. Rest of the secrets would stay that...secret (Cue evil villain laugh). Or even better, place those secrets behind a chainsaw secret and only upon picking up a blursphere (partial invisibility).

[@zerofighterkicks2041]

Hi Decino. How the viewer submission works? Because i want you to play some Slaughterfest maps. Great upload there. This map is why i am asking. Amazing and familiar.

[@decino]

Submissions are closed at the moment. There will be instructions when a new round starts.

[@docwhogr]

last time someone told me: sit back, relax and ill do all the dirty work i end up with a child... so, no thanks --skip....

[@BeheadedKamikaze]

My condolences

[@gast128]

Impressive though the last screen states that one should do it in 5 minutes (par time).

[@decino]

Probably doable if you don't bother with kills and secrets.

[@highsman1340]

@@decino probably doable if you were actually good at the game (jk lol)

[@decino]

Mean!

[@potatoboih5378]

I was setting par times for this mapset but I'm not sure if I changed it for Gotcha! yet or not. You can technically run straight for the exit as all the keys are optional so the map might be completable in under 5 minutes. :p

[@jmatki1217]

I always think the par times are hella unrealistic unless you’re speed running and that takes all the fun out of the game IMHO. Doom is all about the fun of gunning monsters down

[@TheRealNormanBates]

4:03 _noice!_ The imp never knew what hit him! BTW, does that area have the secret rock doors to get to the secret teleporter? 34:42 I think his name was Boris the Shoulder Blade. 35:30 dayum! He was like "Hi! IwanttotalktoyouaboutyourextendedcariwarrantIEEEEE!" 38:32 you forgot to get the Computer Area Map.

[@inventiveusername5191]

Potentially unpopular opinion, but Message for the Archvile may well be the best MIDI on the original D2 soundtrack.

[@decino]

I agree.

[@hanselmanryanjames]

Do you play Quake mods? I am playing one called the "Spiritworld" right now that is excellent. It's also a re imagining of original quake levels. Highly recommend

[@decino]

I don't.

[@Brucifer2]

Disappointingly i cannot find anyone on KZbin having done a full playthrough of this WAD. To my surprise the only other video of it i have found was a demo of the first map 8 years ago... Is this WAD still WIP?

[@decino]

Still WIP, yes.

[@Brucifer2]

@@decino Thank you wise pumpkin man.

[@arjangilera]

19:24 kill count gaat omlaag waarom is dat? Tnx voor al je videos, ik kijk ze regelmatig grts

[@decino]

Arch-vile is resurrecting corpses.

[@scottl.1568]

Chainsaw the robot spider 😁

[@stensoft]

I wonder how this map will play in Project Brutality

[@niconutz898]

"Of course I take damage again." Decino, May 2024

[@FrancisFjordCupola]

Wonder what they did with barrels of fun...

[@decino]

We'll see when it's done!

[@KabootarOk]

Great video! How do you pronounce "decino"?

[@decino]

deh see no

[@KabootarOk]

@@decino Thank you

[@riba2233]

​@@decino more like deh see YES PLEASE

[@johnreich1878]

Will you ever take a look at heretic and hexen? Since heretic was made by Jon Romero himself

[@decino]

I won't. Also Romero didn't work on Heretic, Raven Software did.

[@tyhy1]

één van de raketten die je op 14:45 afschiet mist en ontploft tegen het plafond aan. maar waar komt ie tegenaan? zou die niet gewoon horen verdwijnen?

[@decino]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/b3jShIWtabl3rZI

[@tyhy1]

@@decino Dankjewel

[@Gna-rn7zx]

This name confuses my brain ... makes it sound like a hybrid of Doom I & II

[@AlteFore]

Shounic X Decino when?

[@riba2233]

what is this lol, looks like a neat concept