Icon of Sin Mechanics and Oddities

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decino

decino

3 жыл бұрын

Doom II's final boss is pretty broken yo.
Music:
Plurry by Bucket
Baron's Province by James Paddock
Cataclysmic Impact by James Paddock
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@decino
@decino 3 жыл бұрын
Uploaded a version without the annoying high-frequency sound: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gl62l6ypZcd2oMU
@theblackswordsman1998
@theblackswordsman1998 3 жыл бұрын
Pls make a video about doom 64 mechanics or doom 64 textures and sprites origin
@OblivionWalkerVerified
@OblivionWalkerVerified 3 жыл бұрын
@@theblackswordsman1998 yes i agree. i wanna watch i am learning more and more about doom and it's endless possibilities
@nowaywithyoueveragai
@nowaywithyoueveragai 3 жыл бұрын
I hear no annoying high frequency sound. My potato prevents it to happen.
@kentuckybruce6816
@kentuckybruce6816 3 жыл бұрын
Is the sound from the song or editing?
@DoomHydra
@DoomHydra 3 жыл бұрын
@@kentuckybruce6816 It's just from the map30 song.
@Ashurion-Neonix
@Ashurion-Neonix 3 жыл бұрын
* plays audio in reverse * "Hello fellow doomers, make sure to sign into your Bethesda account.
@Ashurion-Neonix
@Ashurion-Neonix 3 жыл бұрын
@sheparddog117 I just recommend practicing with timing. Using a port that enables crosshair helps.
@emperorofgaming8146
@emperorofgaming8146 3 жыл бұрын
@sheparddog117 you can’t shoot at the very top - you have to time it. What I do is shoot once when the platform lines up with the Icon’s “chin”, and then time a rocket when I run off of it. I know that’s probably not too helpful, but it’s hard to be specific. Use what I said as guidelines, and practice it.
@ClearlyNOTaFedandNOTatiktoker
@ClearlyNOTaFedandNOTatiktoker 3 жыл бұрын
@sheparddog117 infinite ammo
@ultramatt9562
@ultramatt9562 3 жыл бұрын
i refuse.
@khanmaykr4955
@khanmaykr4955 2 жыл бұрын
Hello doomers, in order to play doom on your Nintendo switch, you must sign into your Bethesda account
@BradBozarth
@BradBozarth 3 жыл бұрын
Man, Romero *really* planned ahead with that hidden message
@decino
@decino 3 жыл бұрын
He's a freaking genius after all.
@xjyo
@xjyo 3 жыл бұрын
Remember the last "official", "intended" secret of Doom 2?
@zakazany1945
@zakazany1945 3 жыл бұрын
Shut up and take my like
@452jman
@452jman 3 жыл бұрын
Love the pun lol
@MrDopeKeen
@MrDopeKeen 3 жыл бұрын
Bds tss
@awesumdood3994
@awesumdood3994 3 жыл бұрын
When the final boss is a wall texture
@LeviathanRX
@LeviathanRX 3 жыл бұрын
and the final boss of Ultima 3 is the floor lol
@skibur848
@skibur848 3 жыл бұрын
when the final boss is a BROKEN wall texture
@vasiliypupkin3239
@vasiliypupkin3239 3 жыл бұрын
Final fantasy has entered the chat
@lazyer0511
@lazyer0511 3 жыл бұрын
When the final boss is a wall
@SpiffoGaming
@SpiffoGaming 3 жыл бұрын
When the final boss is so bad it won't even get the dunce cap because that would require recognizing it as a doom level
@johnshepherd7882
@johnshepherd7882 3 жыл бұрын
By the way, Samuel Hayden stating that Icon of sin is getting stronger with every second on earth is a really nice touch, because in Doom 2 this boss fight was just pure race against time, the longer you stay in there, more monsters start and keep spawning, overwhelming you
@sekibankiplays3334
@sekibankiplays3334 3 жыл бұрын
The longer you fight with Icon of Sin - the more difficult it will become
@ghoulbuster1
@ghoulbuster1 3 жыл бұрын
The icon of sin also keeps spawning demons in doom eternal, starting with fodder and the longer you take fighting it, more heavy demons start spawning.
@jj-nj6ii
@jj-nj6ii 3 жыл бұрын
Scientist Walter Only thing with Eternal is that it’s absolutely no issue thanks to the respawning Crucible ammo and your chainsaw.
@lugbzurg8987
@lugbzurg8987 3 жыл бұрын
@Frax Is that in ultra nightmare difficulty or something? 'Cause the icon keeps recalling the demons he summons when I've played the map.
@erubianwarlord8208
@erubianwarlord8208 3 жыл бұрын
interestingly based on what I heard the icon of sin might be easiest in nightmare mode as the respawning monsters will max out the spawn cap
@MichelleSleeper
@MichelleSleeper 3 жыл бұрын
The longer the Icon of Sin is on Earth, the more bugs he introduces.
@decino
@decino 3 жыл бұрын
Yikes.
@MultiCool55
@MultiCool55 3 жыл бұрын
Would explain the state of most Bethesda games, at least.
@IDHLEB
@IDHLEB 3 жыл бұрын
The longer Doom franchise is on the market, the stronger it will become.
@gub4941
@gub4941 3 жыл бұрын
IDHLEB unless it pulls a halo reach and fucks the franchise forever.
@CourierSiix
@CourierSiix 3 жыл бұрын
@@gub4941 wdym, halo reach was amazing
@thearch-vile8232
@thearch-vile8232 3 жыл бұрын
I'm going to wait 11.6 years for that spawn cube to spawn *turns out to be archvile* *alright going to leave*
@pluto3194
@pluto3194 3 жыл бұрын
Hold on, this whole operation was your idea
@franciscobotello4352
@franciscobotello4352 3 жыл бұрын
Getting the archvile is kinda like shiny hunting.
@user-qd8yy9lc4g
@user-qd8yy9lc4g 3 жыл бұрын
When the cube shall land in real time, it will spawn an Archvile in the real world.
@thearch-vile8232
@thearch-vile8232 3 жыл бұрын
Why am i getting more likes? It was just a dumb joke i made up
@ultra-papasmurf
@ultra-papasmurf 3 жыл бұрын
It will mark the moment we colonise mars
@tuxedobird
@tuxedobird 3 жыл бұрын
For some reason I feel like I should buy the SIGIL™ Beast Box™, that’s strange.
@FuzedBox
@FuzedBox 3 жыл бұрын
moosnoc... hguoht, meti elbitcelloc looc a yllautca s'tI
@2chill2bbored72
@2chill2bbored72 3 жыл бұрын
Consoom what the hell..
@FuzedBox
@FuzedBox 3 жыл бұрын
@@2chill2bbored72 Consume as in consoooming.
@Strawberry92fs
@Strawberry92fs 3 жыл бұрын
The Free Version is fine. If not that, then the album version. Unless you have boxed copies of all the other DOOM games, in which case I'm going to need your address, k thanks.
@unknownkingdom
@unknownkingdom 3 жыл бұрын
Bitch box
@Neurometry
@Neurometry 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact, romero being the boss head wasn't planned from the start, a few others put his head in as a joke and weren't gonna tell him before release but he found out so he recorded and snuck in the voice line without telling anyone for a surprise to the other id dudes
@michaelschlem2849
@michaelschlem2849 8 ай бұрын
9-25-23 So, some of the other developers of Doom tried to sneak his head into the Icon of Sin as a joke. However, John Romero would discover this fact, and would sneak a voice line into the game without telling anyone else. He surprised the people who tried to surprise him. Funny.
@user-kv6bl4xv5h
@user-kv6bl4xv5h Ай бұрын
​@@michaelschlem2849thats legit what he just said dumbass
@danieljestice4500
@danieljestice4500 3 жыл бұрын
Analysis video took so long because he had to learn how to pronounce everyone's name without messing up
@decino
@decino 3 жыл бұрын
And still managed to mispronounce half the names.
@aldaric291
@aldaric291 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t complain. He didn’t call me Byron. LoL
@aziztcf
@aziztcf 3 жыл бұрын
If I ever manage to spawn a dude imma call it quakegamer632
@2chill2bbored72
@2chill2bbored72 3 жыл бұрын
decino yikes
@secondrival
@secondrival 3 жыл бұрын
It was because he was waiting 11 years so the spawncube can spawn a demon. Duh.
@Flamewalk
@Flamewalk 3 жыл бұрын
As a child, I remember map 30 and the Icon of Sin being by far the most terrifying thing in Doom. It was gigantic, so unlike any other demon, there was nowhere to hide from it. The empty-ish hall design only exaggerated this. And the fact that it could kill you even with the god mode on completely freaked me out. I had it in my worst nightmares. The best video game boss ever.
@fijisharbrough
@fijisharbrough 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine this, you walk in you room and you see a giant severed head on a spike starting chants and then kills you with a fireball.
@doxiedaddy7784
@doxiedaddy7784 3 жыл бұрын
Fiji Sharbrough Terry wads in a nutshell
@Gemidori
@Gemidori 3 жыл бұрын
Kinda makes me feel even happier that he's gotten an upgrade in Eternal His creepiness factor lived on to see the modern gen
@arahman56
@arahman56 3 жыл бұрын
Its not just the Icon of Sin. Forgot which doom game, but there was also the first part where you would instantly die (by telefragging yourself) if you didn't cross the "islands" through the right path. Also yeah, telefrags aren't blocked by iddqd.
@apersonwhoenjoysskyrim3110
@apersonwhoenjoysskyrim3110 3 жыл бұрын
@@arahman56 tnt eviloution.
@PeterLawrenceYT
@PeterLawrenceYT 3 жыл бұрын
The stock sample used when the brain fires a spawn cube is forever associated with the icon of sin for me, no matter where it shows up.
@TheWolfgangGrimmer
@TheWolfgangGrimmer 3 жыл бұрын
It's funny, it seems to show up in just about everything, but I'm pretty sure MAP30 is also the first time I heard it. It always distracts and annoys me when some other piece of media uses it because it's just far too recognizable.
@Intestine_Ballin-ism
@Intestine_Ballin-ism 3 жыл бұрын
Every time I hear it in a movie explosion it makes me cringe. It's like the Wilhelm scream but without the self awareness of how crappy it sounds.
@reloadpsi
@reloadpsi 3 жыл бұрын
@@Intestine_Ballin-ism Oh god, all of that. I hate that sound effect so much.
@inverse_of_zero
@inverse_of_zero 3 жыл бұрын
Haven't heard your voice in a while Peter, hopefully you'll make a cameo soon!
@Demonslay335
@Demonslay335 3 жыл бұрын
Ya, I remember hearing it in a movie recently... can't remember which one though. I just remember it instantly triggered my brain.
@pluhurimistikal
@pluhurimistikal 3 жыл бұрын
"He AcTuAlLy SaYs To WiN tHe GaMe YoU mUsT kIlL mE jOhN rOmErO" - Everyone who thinks they know more than decino about doom, 2020
@jonbartosch1903
@jonbartosch1903 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I’m way out of the loop - is the reversed audio in this video a joke that people that watch this channel would get?
@n0kt0h45
@n0kt0h45 3 жыл бұрын
@@jonbartosch1903 No. It's just a random joke in the video, referring to Romero's recent wad for Doom. "To win the game you must kill me John Romero" was the original reversed message.
@Thanatos_mortis
@Thanatos_mortis 3 жыл бұрын
I thought it said" im the true demon that will kill you zabadoo
@caliscience
@caliscience 3 жыл бұрын
@@n0kt0h45 So you think you know more about doom than decino, huh?
@cringe__6040
@cringe__6040 3 жыл бұрын
@@caliscience that's literally what it says decino is wrong
@T-West
@T-West 3 жыл бұрын
Never before have I noticed that texture in map 30. Never again will I fail to notice that texture in map 30.
@user-jp7tw3sd3x
@user-jp7tw3sd3x 3 жыл бұрын
I've always rationalized the gap as kind of support beam.
@halvtysk
@halvtysk 3 жыл бұрын
TIL: there’s more logic/code behind the icon of sin than I ever knew.
@wallyhackenslacker
@wallyhackenslacker 3 жыл бұрын
And half of it is botched!
@DinnerForkTongue
@DinnerForkTongue 3 жыл бұрын
@DomSka Patron privileges, most likely.
@KuraIthys
@KuraIthys 3 жыл бұрын
@Agent 005 Sometimes a lot more complicated... But honestly? Sometimes not at all that much more complex. AI in games is still extremely primitive in more cases than you might imagine... Sometimes the AI in a modern game barely surpasses the complexity of pacman. On the other hand, sometimes it's so complicated you'd need to do a 3 year long study just to make sense of it all...
@ludilka
@ludilka 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone: Icon of Sin ACTUALLY says "To win the game you have to kill me John Romero"! Me: giggling because decino saying "reaction time" sounds like "erection time"
@miguelduarte2138
@miguelduarte2138 3 жыл бұрын
Mandela effect???
@true_neutral3378
@true_neutral3378 3 жыл бұрын
@@miguelduarte2138 the Lemmino video on Doom
@poopcatapult2623
@poopcatapult2623 3 жыл бұрын
@@miguelduarte2138 must be Mandela. I just checked it and this video is correct.
@mitchtom1409
@mitchtom1409 3 жыл бұрын
>you must kill me FTFY
@SvendleBerries
@SvendleBerries 3 жыл бұрын
(makes Beavis noises) Boioioioioioioioioioioing!
@The5lacker
@The5lacker 3 жыл бұрын
"Like all demons, Romero's Head has a death state." Of course, the most famous demon of all: John Romero's terrible hair.
@williamsmith666
@williamsmith666 Жыл бұрын
"That man's mane is a sign of virility!" - Civvie-11
@jonsku6662
@jonsku6662 3 жыл бұрын
"The longer the Icon of Sin is on Earth, the stronger he will become" Doomguy: "Ok, so beat up John Romero's head, got it." "What?" Doomslayer: "You wouldn't get it."
@tehberral
@tehberral 3 жыл бұрын
This makes me think of a Sonic Generations classic/modern thing for Doom. I wonder how desperate id would have to get to actually pull that stunt.
@abhinandanil7775
@abhinandanil7775 3 жыл бұрын
@@tehberral They already got the classic skin model on Eternal. If they hire a programmer to give it gameplay mechanics, remaster the original levels in idTech 7, and make a Generations style of gameplay (Classic Doomguy cannot jump, can't dash while the Modern Doomslayer can) and voila!
@abhinandanil7775
@abhinandanil7775 3 жыл бұрын
I even got myself a concept for the final Icon of Sin fight now that I thought about it. Both the Doomguy and the Slayer join forces together and head to the portal to the destroyed buildings and he's right there (the full-body one in Eternal) roaring that famous John Romero line menacingly. Both characters take turns in fighting him, as he starts spawning demons using Hell Energy. The Slayer would weaken the body while Doomguy fires on the head, which would stagger him for a while, hence giving the player more time. In the end, after it's almost killed, both of them fire volleys of rockets to it's exposed brain, instantly blowing it up.
@blakecacini8016
@blakecacini8016 2 жыл бұрын
@@abhinandanil7775 oh no
@tl1882
@tl1882 2 жыл бұрын
@@abhinandanil7775 also you can put the gun in the middle
@n00f
@n00f 3 жыл бұрын
0:00 decino hyping himself up for playthroughs
@jeyendeoso
@jeyendeoso 3 жыл бұрын
decino's morning alarm
@azzyasbourne9107
@azzyasbourne9107 3 жыл бұрын
How'd he make that voice clip anyway?
@btaadomoth792
@btaadomoth792 3 жыл бұрын
Doom² but every sound is replaced with John Romero reversed dialogue.
@dnkakusei
@dnkakusei 3 жыл бұрын
Remind me to make that
@shaynehughes6645
@shaynehughes6645 3 жыл бұрын
@@dnkakusei do that I guess
@fishyc43sar
@fishyc43sar 3 жыл бұрын
@@dnkakusei do it
@Gemidori
@Gemidori 3 жыл бұрын
And every texture is just Icon of Sin Giant evil goat smiley face
@shaynehughes6645
@shaynehughes6645 3 жыл бұрын
@@Gemidori John's pain.jpg
@ECartmanist
@ECartmanist 3 жыл бұрын
Since The Icon of Sin is actually John Romero,if someone murders John Romero are they the first person to actually beat Doom 2?
@PeterLawrenceYT
@PeterLawrenceYT 3 жыл бұрын
No, they would be an absolute knob.
@quiggsy8571
@quiggsy8571 3 жыл бұрын
I'm on it
@shadowbitten3341
@shadowbitten3341 3 жыл бұрын
No they would be in jail
@andrewkromidas645
@andrewkromidas645 3 жыл бұрын
Shadow Bitten bet?
@bloodyfishheads3316
@bloodyfishheads3316 3 жыл бұрын
John Romero's immortal.
@tehberral
@tehberral 3 жыл бұрын
You already ruined the stairs in Tricks and Traps for me, now I can't look at the Icon of Sin anymore. Thanks.
@daddykrabs0
@daddykrabs0 3 жыл бұрын
Wait what was wrong with the stairs
@FuzedBox
@FuzedBox 3 жыл бұрын
@@daddykrabs0 1) The second step breaks the symmetry. 2) The left surface of the third step has a different texture than the rest.
@Mifferz
@Mifferz 3 жыл бұрын
@@FuzedBox is there a video of this?
@HarryKoakuma
@HarryKoakuma 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mifferz It's in Decino's Doom II 100% playthrough, he points it out while going through that room (on Map 08).
@daddykrabs0
@daddykrabs0 3 жыл бұрын
wasabidog Ah, thank you
@_Nafferty
@_Nafferty 3 жыл бұрын
As a programmer myself, I love that you actually go into the code and show how things work. Doom rocks
@spingebinge
@spingebinge 3 жыл бұрын
_Fun Fact that you probably knew._ The Icon’s brain spit sound is used in multiple movies and other games! _This has been, The fun fact that you probably already knew._
@chainsawplayin
@chainsawplayin 3 жыл бұрын
I think it's a generic fire sound
@ChusenOne
@ChusenOne 3 жыл бұрын
Wonder why that is. It's a non-proprietary sound? Happens with a lot of SFX
@KuraIthys
@KuraIthys 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChusenOne It's probably similar to the Doom door sound. While I always mentally associate it with Doom, you'd be surprised once you start listening for it, how many films in shows up in. The reason that door sound is so common is because it comes from a stock sound library that pretty much EVERYONE in Hollywood, and most of the games industry owns. It costs like a few hundred to buy the library, but the sounds it contains are royalty free. No doubt the sound used here is either from the same library, or a similar kind of sound library that was in widespread use...
@C64Lover
@C64Lover 3 жыл бұрын
Many Doom assets are generic/well known as Decino already revealed in his movies.
@rockman7perez
@rockman7perez 3 жыл бұрын
And the sound used in Blood when the gargoyle boss shoots fireballs, I have heard that sound everywhere...
@iguana9173
@iguana9173 3 жыл бұрын
1:50 My grandpa had the game crash on this level in the early years of playing doom now I know why
@bulldozer6781
@bulldozer6781 3 жыл бұрын
The Icon of sin: exists Me, who has played dozens of Wads: HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO TEACH YOU THIS LESSON *_OLD MAN_*
@SimBol1216
@SimBol1216 3 жыл бұрын
0:57 The longer the Icon of Simp is on Earth, the more powerful e-girls will become.
@davidbanan.
@davidbanan. 3 жыл бұрын
"wut duz the ikcon of simp say"
@gudmansal3468
@gudmansal3468 2 ай бұрын
the ikcon* of simp
@hi-i-am-atan
@hi-i-am-atan 3 жыл бұрын
it's worth noting that despite the fact that you can typically only damage the icon of sin with rockets, the romero head actor doesn't actually have any sort of damage immunity. instead, the head in d2m30 ( as well as many, _many_ map30s that follow ) is just too low to hit with most weapons. but, since splash damage only checks proximity on the xy axis, rockets are still able to damage it by hitting the wall behind it and catching it in their explosion. subsequently, ports like gzdoom which make splash damage use 3d collision detection have to "cheat" and ignore that added functionality _specifically for the romero head_ just to make sure that map30 doesn't _break_ also, the explosions from a dying romero hero _don't_ actually hurt ... under the conditions of a typical map30 setup, anyway. the S_BRAINEXPLODE states don't call A_Explode like the normal rocket death states, and while the spawned actors are 100% standard rockets forced into a non-standard state ( meaning, they're still projectiles - even though they're _visibly_ exploding, the rockets haven't actually _died_ ), actors only check to collide with other actors during P_XYMovement. which, as the name suggests, handles movement on the xy axis, not the z one. so, normally, they don't deal explosion damage, nor are they capable of hitting an actor to deal contact damage and _then_ explode normally but here's the thing: projectiles may not be able to collide with _actors_ while moving purely vertically, but they still collide with _planes_ and being under a floor or being above a ceiling counts as colliding with them so, if a romero head is positioned in such a way that its explosions will spawn below a floor or above a ceiling? the rockets will explode _using their normal death state,_ and thus will deal their normal splash damage to anything unfortunate enough to be in the blast radius. this also means that if an explosion spawns below a ceiling, but is carried into the ceiling by its upward momentum before it vanishes, it'll die and thus _reset the explosion animation,_ but this time as an actual damaging explosion - which, thanks to the aforementioned fact that splash damage doesn't bother checking vertical distances, is far more likely to kill something than you might first think
@thewhatwhat12333
@thewhatwhat12333 3 жыл бұрын
the first 5 seconds is just hayden reversed "the longer the icon of sin stays on earth, the stronger it will become"
@kryptkravler
@kryptkravler 3 жыл бұрын
Haha. That reverse easter egg though.
@nuclearshorts1243
@nuclearshorts1243 3 жыл бұрын
When I see that yellow background, I know it'll be good
@DoomGuy_9015
@DoomGuy_9015 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah man'
@ThaBotmon
@ThaBotmon 3 жыл бұрын
Vietnam Flashbacks from CD Projekt Red
@terrytrollface
@terrytrollface 3 жыл бұрын
I think there's something profound about Doom. As I've watched these informative videos that get deep into the code I appreciate the game more. It was made so long ago, yet the software was ingenious at the time. It's optimized so well, that it has basically become possible to run doom on anything. I love these videos, but I gotta go buy the sigil box set.
@sirincompetent758
@sirincompetent758 2 жыл бұрын
you have become his bitch by buying the SIGIL™ Beast Box™
@thesamejackalsniperthatkil117
@thesamejackalsniperthatkil117 2 жыл бұрын
This is why doom and quake are masterpieces
@dsagent
@dsagent 3 жыл бұрын
*Icon of SIMP!?* 0:56 I laughed pretty hard.
@valkarion9
@valkarion9 3 жыл бұрын
4:31 What a dedication, you ran the simulation for 11 years.
@BobsRevenge
@BobsRevenge 3 жыл бұрын
Would honestly love to see an "Ikcon of Simp" boss fight mod
@pluto3194
@pluto3194 3 жыл бұрын
Just go into a female Twitch streamer's chat and say something bad about her
@KuraIthys
@KuraIthys 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like something that would fit into a mod like H-doom or the like. ;p
@ProjectV6
@ProjectV6 3 жыл бұрын
"Hey, that's pretty good!"
@granite8236
@granite8236 3 жыл бұрын
@Frax simp
@nathanhirsch9654
@nathanhirsch9654 3 жыл бұрын
I lost it at this part of the vid lol
@PokeMaster22222
@PokeMaster22222 3 жыл бұрын
1:15 What is it about Romero, and "become my bitch"? First Doom, then Daikatana's marketing...
@FlameLFH
@FlameLFH 3 жыл бұрын
7:57 Gosh darn it. I notice a ton of texture seams in Doom as it is. Can't unsee.
@BlazingOwnager
@BlazingOwnager 3 жыл бұрын
I have so many fond memories of basically creating Survival maps before Survival gametypes were popular using this. Make a huge base of supplies & guns, then stick an Icon of Sin spawner in the distance.. boom, instant non-stop invasion of enemies (until the crappy netcode crashes lol)
@ohuckabee
@ohuckabee 3 жыл бұрын
The "monsters can telefrag each other on MAP30" thing explains some odd behavior on MAP30 of the megawad "Epic 2," that being a stream of enemies teleporting in and instantly dying when you hit two switches. It wasn't some weird exploding barrel trick, just the engine doing what it was intended to do, albeit in an unintended way.
@blastpipezj6937
@blastpipezj6937 3 жыл бұрын
7:57 This error is kinda like the misaligned Sonic 1 title screen. Once you see it you will never unsee it.
@davidbanan.
@davidbanan. 2 жыл бұрын
The what now
@XzMondayNightzX
@XzMondayNightzX 3 жыл бұрын
The icon is now cursed and it can't be unseen. I always thought it was a pipe or something but it's really just a RAW TEXTURE. Thanks sandy.
@MilesLuigi
@MilesLuigi 3 жыл бұрын
First played Doom 2 all the way through on I'm Too Young To Die with god mode way back when I was 8 years old. I made it to map 30 totally confused what to do, running all over the map, when suddenly I died with a big red screen. Scared the bejezus out of me. Now I know it was just a spawn cube telefragging me.
@Arto91
@Arto91 3 жыл бұрын
I have a very distant memory of this happening the first time I ever played the map, would be about the same age and confused me for years. Told myself iddqd must have a time limit
@alexrexaros9837
@alexrexaros9837 3 жыл бұрын
I remember some rumors saying that the Icon of Sin could have been a way bigger and more powerful Cyberdemon in previous concepts. And just like all rumors... It was unfounded.
@OmegaZX-kd8sm
@OmegaZX-kd8sm 3 жыл бұрын
"Im bored, what should i do?" ~Decino new video~ "I ENJOY"
@m-w-y7325
@m-w-y7325 3 жыл бұрын
Game: how many explosions you want? Icon of Sin: *Yes*
@purplekey9330
@purplekey9330 3 жыл бұрын
The high pitch ring around 0:41 was a little hard on the ears, I dunno if anything can be done about it (and I knows its part of the song) but just thought I'd mention it But still, amazing video as always, always love a little code deep dive
@tjg121389
@tjg121389 3 жыл бұрын
I concur, it was very annoying.
@sunny_D
@sunny_D 3 жыл бұрын
@@tjg121389 Roughly how old are you two? I can barely hear it.
@UmaROMC
@UmaROMC 3 жыл бұрын
@@sunny_D I am a 31 yo industrial electrician , I'm used to noise, and high pitched whines and shit coming off of VFD's, and it annoyed the everliving SHIT out of me. Makes my brain go hurty :(
@kirbybaker2721
@kirbybaker2721 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I thought it was just me
@Maggerama
@Maggerama 3 жыл бұрын
@@sunny_D What do you mean by that? I'm 35 and it causes my migraine to act up. The ring didn't bother me in the slightest when I was a kid though.
@DarkLord_Immoran
@DarkLord_Immoran 3 жыл бұрын
Decino is finally back, missed you my friend. The icon of sin is definitely an interesting enemy, during the fight, I was also scared of those demon cubes he shoots, because if I come into contact, than the telefrag will insta kill me, even with invincibility.
@bouiabongo7403
@bouiabongo7403 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: The German Technology is The finest
@__-ix7qn
@__-ix7qn 3 жыл бұрын
Is Stroheim the best worst guy or the worst best guy
@metagen77
@metagen77 3 жыл бұрын
@@__-ix7qn Stroheim is best waifu
@godofdoor6558
@godofdoor6558 3 жыл бұрын
Bakamonoga
@zekrinealfa1113
@zekrinealfa1113 3 жыл бұрын
@@metagen77 such heresy being said. Speedwagon is best waifu, everyone knows that.
@bouiabongo7403
@bouiabongo7403 3 жыл бұрын
@@zekrinealfa1113 Shaise
@shannonhill3356
@shannonhill3356 3 жыл бұрын
Someone needs to spawn a -1 cube, and then we'll all place bets on what demon it spawns for 11.4 years - should give tons of time for people to get the pot nice and big. I vote it spawns an Arch Vile, for 100$ 🙃
@RomanOrekhov
@RomanOrekhov 3 жыл бұрын
Sooo many new names in the patreon's list! And completely deserved! Always interesting analyses and fun map clears! I hope some day the list will be so large you'll have to get tired or change the perk))
@Arto91
@Arto91 3 жыл бұрын
I happily went over 20 years without noticing that texture, it cannot be unseen
@smanugame9725
@smanugame9725 3 жыл бұрын
7:43 that scream sounds painful
@toretronio9030
@toretronio9030 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds memey
@DarkBrassica
@DarkBrassica 3 жыл бұрын
The real surprise is that those are actually screams of pleasure from the source.
@hatefuckable
@hatefuckable 3 жыл бұрын
To win the game you must first avoid all the god damn bugs. Now I know why all those clever DeHacked mods I made using the Icon would make the game crash for seemingly no reason. Still, when it worked it was pretty cool.
@No-uc6fg
@No-uc6fg 3 жыл бұрын
3:18 "Spooky Boys" I see what you did there, Decino.
@leandrothy
@leandrothy 3 жыл бұрын
Plot twist: Decino's head is inside Romero's head
@Gemidori
@Gemidori 2 жыл бұрын
So you're saying that Romero has a pumpkin in his head?
@gabrielloko30000
@gabrielloko30000 3 жыл бұрын
1:10 This is your moneyshot, decino You made a joke that only the fellow doomers will pick quickly. You are a awesome content creator and also a formidable purist player
@finkamain1621
@finkamain1621 3 жыл бұрын
Oddly enough, I just killed the Icon of Sin in TNT Evilution about 35 minutes ago. What a coincidence!
@williamsmith666
@williamsmith666 3 жыл бұрын
Also I believe the explosions from a dying Icon can only be seen if the Icon itself is facing South on a map. Any other direction and you'll get nothing. See: the Icon in TNT Evilution's "Last Call" map faces North, so upon death you'll hear the scream but get nothing.
@FelipeJaquez
@FelipeJaquez 3 жыл бұрын
8:25 Decino Out of Context
@tiagobarros5666
@tiagobarros5666 3 жыл бұрын
From what I've seen in your videos, you're one of the guys who understands Doom the most. This is really cool. Congratulations and thank you.
@demogorgonzola
@demogorgonzola 3 жыл бұрын
Hey decino, this video was featured in Cracked article titled "6 Gaming Secrets That Took Forever To Discover" - and they credited you with proper lowercase. :) _"The Icon of Sin is Doom 2's final boss. Its masterplan is literally giving birth to demons that'll hopefully prevent the main character from shooting it in its comically overexposed brains. (...) If you think Sin's strategy isn't flawed enough already, KZbinr decino found out that, due to some very odd coding, one of the Sin's babies has a gestation period of nearly 11.6 years. So about 11.6 years way too late for anything other than a B-grade revenge-themed sequel."_
@decino
@decino 3 жыл бұрын
Cool, but Doomworld found it. Not me.
@MsMegadude64
@MsMegadude64 3 жыл бұрын
"...oniceD ,em ot emoc tsum uoy ,sgnikrow renni eht wonk oT"
@JekitySnekity
@JekitySnekity 3 жыл бұрын
I genuinely love these analysis videos. They all have me learn something good and useful about doom. For instance, the armor video showed me that i shouldnt immediately pick up green armor under 100 percent. The rng one are also useful and interesting. Overall, all of your analysis videos helped me so much in playing some wads, and they are all interesting too.
@skissue12929
@skissue12929 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Icon of sin can sometimes change his voice when he says that message at the beginning (in unity version at least)
@graindiose
@graindiose 3 жыл бұрын
Yay a new doom analysis video, this is so awesome because I love to be able to understand how a game works, and especially if it’s doom so thank you so much for making these videos and taking time to analyse the game. You’re the best 👍
@LivingBetweenPaychecks
@LivingBetweenPaychecks 3 жыл бұрын
8:07 why
@nbanextlegend7497
@nbanextlegend7497 3 жыл бұрын
Use your imagination and suppose the gap is part of the wall that the Icon of Sin is inside. Problem fixed. No need to thank me.
@iguana9173
@iguana9173 3 жыл бұрын
Living Between Paychecks Kitchen I’ve been playing doom all my life and never noticed that.
@cyberoverkill5844
@cyberoverkill5844 3 жыл бұрын
"To win my heart, you must subscribe to me, Decino." You're welcome.
@poopcatapult2623
@poopcatapult2623 3 жыл бұрын
8:06 You monster! Can't unsee this.
@diologischyes5229
@diologischyes5229 3 жыл бұрын
1:10 What he really say: To win the game you have to kill me John Romero.
@ChrisPBacon-qi4wv
@ChrisPBacon-qi4wv 3 жыл бұрын
No. He actually says "oremoR nhoJ em llik ot evah uoy emag eht niw oT"
@Bruh-pj6dc
@Bruh-pj6dc 3 жыл бұрын
DIOLOGISCH XD do you know how to take a joke?
@rokorok3
@rokorok3 3 жыл бұрын
@@Bruh-pj6dc Do you know how to take a meta-joke?
@diologischyes5229
@diologischyes5229 3 жыл бұрын
@@Bruh-pj6dc did I said that is not* funny?
@inverse_of_zero
@inverse_of_zero 3 жыл бұрын
My God this is beautiful, thanks decino! Also.. "Spooky Bois" 😂 👌
@tickleson8661
@tickleson8661 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for having visuals to explain this bosses code, I briefly understood what the cubespawner and cubetarget did but vaguely at best. You've mastered the ability of being informative while entertaining.
@kabooby0
@kabooby0 2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate that you show the source code in your videos. Gives me something to pause and stare at for a bit. This is one of your best videos.
@greenbroccolistudios1275
@greenbroccolistudios1275 Жыл бұрын
Misheard Line: EVAN DIED EAT EGGS THE MILK YUM YUM 1:03
@TheGamer8041
@TheGamer8041 3 жыл бұрын
I paused my black metal when I saw this notification. Priorities
@voidghost4933
@voidghost4933 3 жыл бұрын
What black metal were you listening to?
@voidghost4933
@voidghost4933 3 жыл бұрын
Arch Enemy's pretty good
@zakazany1945
@zakazany1945 3 жыл бұрын
@@voidghost4933 What about archvile
@ChuckRuledTheWorld
@ChuckRuledTheWorld 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Decino. I always enjoy your content, wether it's a playthrough or an informative video :)
@LeonM4c
@LeonM4c 3 жыл бұрын
I love these videos so much, I normally only understand a little bit of this stuff, as I'm not versed in coding amd stuff...but THIS is insane, I can't even fathom the complexity of this
@NinjaCacodemon_IsSus
@NinjaCacodemon_IsSus 2 жыл бұрын
No one has won the game cause John Romero is still alive
@SmeddyTooBestChannel
@SmeddyTooBestChannel 3 жыл бұрын
The Icon of Sin is actually John Romero's head?? Next thing you'll be telling me Super Mario Bros. 2 is actually Doki Doki Panic in Japan.
@LonelySpaceDetective
@LonelySpaceDetective 3 жыл бұрын
And then decino will explain to his audience what VHS tapes are and what they were used for.
@madscientist1045
@madscientist1045 3 жыл бұрын
idk why but the John Romero head freaked me when i was a kid lol
@wolfgangfrost8043
@wolfgangfrost8043 3 жыл бұрын
It's really cool how you illustrated the eye entity of Baphomet using the Press Release Beta version of the Partial Invisibility sphere.
@abhishekghaghada9805
@abhishekghaghada9805 3 жыл бұрын
Decino, I really love your content. You're a very nice person. Keep doing what you enjoy, we enjoy it too :)
@furorteutonicus9045
@furorteutonicus9045 3 жыл бұрын
Finally a new video from my favourite Doomdaddy!
@avocatdelamusique9778
@avocatdelamusique9778 3 жыл бұрын
5:04 this telefragging marathon is JUICYYYYYY
@lucasdelate8782
@lucasdelate8782 3 жыл бұрын
I just love how much effort, brain power and love is put into this vids and analysis. Decino is a very cool guy and a hidden pearl inside KZbin algorithm
@mikeock4924
@mikeock4924 3 жыл бұрын
i kinda wish the icon of sin and the other bosses were more complicated the cyberdemon shoots rockets, the spider mastermind shoots bullets and the wall of sin shoots demons im so confused how the arch vile is soooooo much more annoying than any boss
@PKAmedia
@PKAmedia 3 жыл бұрын
So this explains why I've been buying any random sigils I've come across for the last quarter of a century.... Oh well, money well spent *cackles in demon*.
@borginator1493
@borginator1493 3 жыл бұрын
Aw, sorry Decino, missed this upload somehow. These analysis videos are some of my favorite, keep 'em up DoomGod!
@eno88
@eno88 3 жыл бұрын
7:56 , added to the list of "Shit I Can't Unsee"
@parknplay8328
@parknplay8328 3 жыл бұрын
He actually says: "Now that's what I call a Gay Baby Moment"
@thearch-vile8232
@thearch-vile8232 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone waiting for new Valiant video decino: _how about no_ *(still a good video)* buy Sigil-oh wait...i mean *To win the game you must kill me John Romero*
@harrigan4162
@harrigan4162 3 жыл бұрын
I just finished playing doom 2 the other day and really enjoyed it. Love your content!
@popgas3821
@popgas3821 3 жыл бұрын
I lovw the fact that you and Dwars know each other. I'm especially drawn tp his channel because of Heretic and Hexen being the actual first FPS games I played before Doom. BTW, Excellent video as usual!
@cesarvictoriano8072
@cesarvictoriano8072 3 жыл бұрын
Who else is waiting for Doom Eternal’s Ultra Nightmare Tier List?
@livirus3826
@livirus3826 3 жыл бұрын
Me!
@andrewaftontheandroidhedge2780
@andrewaftontheandroidhedge2780 3 жыл бұрын
it existes now
@baen758
@baen758 3 жыл бұрын
0:22 h e l l o
@csalakrisztian6153
@csalakrisztian6153 3 жыл бұрын
Man, i sincerely hope you will never run out of topics related to doom. I love your vids so much.
@thatskeletordude5271
@thatskeletordude5271 2 ай бұрын
"What if the Icon Of Sin got stronger the more it stayed on earth?" "Simple, the game crashes"
@sonsoyeah760
@sonsoyeah760 3 жыл бұрын
1:47 THERE'S NO TARGET GET THE FUCK OUT
@takacsadam2850
@takacsadam2850 Жыл бұрын
imagine waiting 11.6 years for a monster to spawn and it's the archvile
@sunnyyy1437
@sunnyyy1437 3 жыл бұрын
0:01 "To win my heart you must subscribe to me, Decino!"
@superwetandcompletelydry
@superwetandcompletelydry 3 жыл бұрын
Decino should do some videos on Doom 64.
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