The Ultimate End - Game PVP Tier List in Throne and Liberty

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Throne and Liberty end game PVE tier list - kzbin.info/www/bejne/bn3PanyfqNerpM0

[@pinie111]

Xbow dagger is not S tier at endgame. Low A tier at best. Also in PvP if one of your weapons is SnS then NOt having SnS as mainhand is griefing yourself.

[@ArdaYeni]

Hi mate, thank you for using my video.

[@FRESHY_GG]

@@ArdaYeni thank you for the footage. I really appreciate it

[@Fuz2yman]

for staff crossbow you are forgetting the mother nature effect as well as +hit passives ( very important for higher gears, where only very high hit can actually hit a target ) + mobility and and the stacking damage boost from the new passive ( the replacement to Opportunist ). Also the cooldown reduction with selfless diffusion.. etc it's highly effective if you have the staff that negates 1 cc and the robe that gives bonus crit with distance. You can basically kite forever with the staff movement skills + crossbow wind snatcher and dash + movements. Anyway, everyone plays what they want so... Just my opinion but i think it's A if not S tier :) I think with the latest changes there are some new unorthodox combos that people will start to use, crossbow will be more of a support than the full on damage imo

[@diegomaia4084]

I hate when tanky classes are overpowered like this, and the fun fact is, that really is, SnS + ANYTHING is overpowered.

[@FRESHY_GG]

@@diegomaia4084 it could always be worse

[@GiverrionBG]

​@@FRESHY_GG could be worse? 5 dps hitting tank is like throwing peanuts into brick wall. U cant do shit

[@betinhoarmando3508]

@@GiverrionBG bro a tank is supposed to tank 5 people thats why he is the tank lol

[@suryasuteja3039]

​@@GiverrionBG bruhh what are you talking about

[@GiverrionBG]

@@betinhoarmando3508 and this tank who is tanking 10 ppl can 1shot dps. For sure it should be like this lol

[@Sairento-kun]

I want to use bow tho, I probably don't see myself with Bow/wand... Bow/dagger or Bow/staff... I know both are S in PVE and A in PVP.... Do you consider any of them more funny? Bow/Staff seems quite skill when to nuke and how to position yourself...

[@FRESHY_GG]

@@Sairento-kun bow staff has highest burst damage in the game currently, but bow dagger is more fun

[@Sairento-kun]

@@FRESHY_GG Welp it's been long a time since I was so hyped about an MMO game . Bow/Staff seems funny as well with fire stacks tho you are right about Bow/Dagger.... I guess I will decide about the build till last day xD

[@FRESHY_GG]

@@Sairento-kun i have bow dagger guide going live in 2 days, maybe it changes ur mind

[@Sairento-kun]

@@FRESHY_GG For sure I will look at it ^^

[@VexinQuest]

Throne and Liberty content creators make no sense :D I swear just last week watched a video where a dude was saying any combination of weapons is amazing in TL and you can't go wrong with playing what you like as you will do great in PvP and PvE basically with anything. Now this video pops up saying to not waste your time with x,y,z combinations and that only a,b,c are viable :D

[@FRESHY_GG]

@@VexinQuest it wont be fun dealing low amount of damage and getting 1 shot, without any counter, but you do you. Anything can be fun, but not everything is viable. This list was made by KR veterans.

[@BugCatLove]

Will there also be a pve tierlist? Or pve is not relevant in endgame and only pvp matters? 🤔🤔🤔

[@FRESHY_GG]

check my last video. i already did pve tier list.

[@BugCatLove]

​@@FRESHY_GGoof 💀💀 I missed it

[@Gleandra]

@@FRESHY_GG Yet, is it even up to date? That was before the update and some balance changes. Much has changed since.

[@FRESHY_GG]

@@Gleandra tier list was done after skill spec and was slightly adjusted after talandre update, as talandre only affected PVE the most. Regarding PVE tier list, almost every single weapon got PVE only buffs, so not much is changing there. I would maybe put longbow + dagger into S tier for PVE, as those 2 weapons have had the most major damage increases out of all 7 seven weapons

[@VileShlomo]

terrible list

[@FRESHY_GG]

all tier lists are terrible

[@shayed_6668]

​@@FRESHY_GGliterally dagger bow is some of the top pvprs combo idk how u came up with this....

[@FRESHY_GG]

@@shayed_6668 i didnt come up with this, i just edited. Watch first 60 secs of the video and ull understand

[@mage2000134]

is this tier list also including the crossbow nerf that dropped last patch?

[@FRESHY_GG]

@@mage2000134 as long as dagger remains untouched, the nerfs dont really change much

[@Wez_zen]

I would really like to see the original numbers

[@FRESHY_GG]

I'll see if I can structure it better and I'll post a screenshot or direct link to the spreadsheet.

[@Typical_Slayer]

Im going to try longbow/Wand or S&S/Wand. Not sure

[@FRESHY_GG]

both super good in pve and pvp

[@kep28]

they totaly nerf xbow, while the only problem is dagger lol

[@FRESHY_GG]

@@kep28 as long as dagger is untouched nerfing other weapons doesnt do much

[@GiverrionBG]

Btw sns gs is unkillable and he can oneshot t2 staff dagg with 16k hp. It happens daily to me. If u want to enjoy pvp i rly dont recommend this game unless there will be serious pvp balance.

[@FRESHY_GG]

@@GiverrionBG its hard to balance pvp, without reworking the whole pvp system

[@tmon6257]

Will this also apply to the global launch or just korean?

[@FRESHY_GG]

@@tmon6257 its for global. There will not be any major balance patches until global release

[@tmon6257]

@@FRESHY_GG ok what would you say are the main differences between Gs/SnS and SnS/Gs because I want to use melee but I’d rather be a mixed dps rather than a pure tank

[@FRESHY_GG]

@@tmon6257 then do gs/dagger, all though gs/sns can deal damage and tank. Sns / dagger is also good mix of dps and tank

[@tmon6257]

@@FRESHY_GG ok thank you!

[@GiverrionBG]

Im not even watching it Just go for SNS GS and abuse this op class. Its way too strong

[@FRESHY_GG]

@@GiverrionBG it is very strong

[@ruprtek]

This list is not accurate :D Xbow/dagger as S tier in PvP and GS/dagger in A tier. Yea this will be true like 2 weeks after start on Hyperboost server :D :D

[@FRESHY_GG]

@@ruprtek gs dagger is s tier against players who dont know how to play against it. Its easy to counter, while crossbow dagger isnt as easy to counter. This is list based on bis end game gear in the hands of skilled players, not new beginners

[@ruprtek]

@@FRESHY_GG Doesnt looks like it. Not even that need to be Small scale vs Large scale, but not in a single of them is xbow/dagger top PvP weapons into this combination :D

[@PepitoGrillo416]

not putting staff/bow in S tier is crazy

[@FRESHY_GG]

@@PepitoGrillo416 its high a tier. Isnt strong in small scale pvp and gets outclassed by melee assassins

[@1991sub]

gs/dagger A tier lmao and xbow/dagger is S tier? lmao

[@FRESHY_GG]

GS/dagger is S tier in small scale, arena and 1v1, but it's still quite bad in large scale pvp, where AOE dmg and AOE cc is the king, which GS/Dagger doesnt have. and xbow nerfs havent done much damage to the build as long as dagger is untouched, it just makes it super strong.

[@1991sub]

@@FRESHY_GG You probably playing a different game than i am wtf you talking about? You literally just said GS/dagger is only bad at one thing and you put it as a tier? what kind logic is this, and no it's not bad at siege it has a AOE STUN FFS + aooe damage is not bad specially if you have the gear.

[@FRESHY_GG]

@@1991sub I wasn't voting on the tier list, I just added average numbers from 15+ players and gave a little bit of description. For some people it is S tier, for some it isn't and when you average the scores out, you get GS/Dagger as A tier.

[@LudoAntheunissens-xi8kc]

Totally bs lol not even close to reality

[@FRESHY_GG]

@@LudoAntheunissens-xi8kc and thats why tier lists suck, cause every single person will have differrent opinion.

[@olkaolka7401]

@@FRESHY_GG thats true . 1 fact every weapon combination in Korean hands will be op and every meta build in noob hands will be bad so just play whatever u like