The Ultimate Men in Women's Sports Debate

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[@batmanforpresident9655]

The fact that this is even being debated truly shows how much society has degenerated.

[@janishart5128]

Yes, and it's all because we became cowards who feared 'being called a name', so we just allowed political correctness to creep into our society, and dictate our lives and force us to accept only THEIR beliefs!!

[@ImagineBeingFat]

people are stupid. kids are easily manipulated and brainwashed. people are also evil. So you got evil stupid people teaching easy manipulative kids into believing legit lies.

[@lizafrench8455]

No it's an attack on the biggest threat to the global agenda, America.

[@daved6317]

We are doomed as a society

[@georgewood7381]

​@daved6317 Ultimately, yes. Sort of sounds like we need a savior.

[@elmartillo7931]

It's not disrespectful to deny a person's delusions.

[@funfact8660]

😂

[@whysoseeriouss]

Why would we accept them, if they can't even accept themselves?!

[@G360LIVE]

@@whysoseeriouss Not only does he not accept himself, he doesn't accept women, because if he did, he would understand that he can't be one.

[@andyappleton3353]

Facts. These people can pretend for themselves and I'm sure their families and friends play along, and that's fine. I'm even a nice person so I'll play along provided I understand beforehand that the person is delusional and they want special treatment. But it is not true. A man cannot become a woman and visa-versa. We're mammals and we can't change our sex under any circumstances. This is mentally unhealthy and society can not be forced to believe in an untruth of any magnitude, let alone this one. This is ridiculous and frankly, I'm sick of it.

[@sendthis9480]

@@whysoseeriouss Because they don’t really want to be accepted. They actually want an argument. If you affirm them, you are taking away their reason to complain about and blame you. Then they’d actually have to start blaming themselves. Arguing them gives them the enemy they need to absolve their culpability. However that’s all playing a game in order to not play their game…so…. I don’t know the answer.

[@joeputtnam952]

How refreshing to see one of these people that formulates an argument in a respectful dignified manner. Well done

[@clivespendlove5993]

It's so unusual to see civil debate now, isn't it? Great when we do!

[@notsocrates9529]

I started laughing as soon as he started speaking

[@germanandreagiri3079]

It was hardly an argument

[@OngezoutNederland]

This way is great indeed!

[@highestpeeqs9532]

Jesus loves yall, died for us, and rose again! Jesus calls for all of us to repent! He's coming back

[@AJH3088]

Imagine fighting for women's rights for decades and then just giving up your spaces to men after all the progression

[@monsoon5860]

This truly puts it into perspective.

[@mikeking683]

Vvomen

[@comrade7324]

😂😂😂

[@highestpeeqs9532]

Jesus loves yall, died for us, and rose again! Jesus calls for all of us to repent! He's coming back

[@sl0Niu]

what is a women tho

[@elmerfudd6740]

respect for the dude debating Charlie without being rude and disrespectful by yelling and calling racist or anti trans. With that said just because you don't believe in someone's mental disability don't make you anti trans it just means you have common since

[@Sniperboy5551]

Gender dysphoria is a real mental disorder (it was defined as such in the DSM-IV) but society shouldn’t have to conform to delusions. Just because a schizophrenic thinks the FBI is following them and bugging their house doesn’t mean that it’s true. So why do we believe in people’s gender delusions?

[@Diametricallyopposed00]

I’d agree, this was one of the more productive, civil conversations I’ve heard. He was respectful of Charlie; didn’t resort to insults and name calling for dramatic effect. I give him props. It’s tough to get up in front of everyone as the dissenting voice and make a coherent argument. Not correct, in my opinion, but coherent. People with mental illness don’t know they have mental illness, so it’s hard to corral this madness sweeping the nation.

[@ja37d-34]

Just look at that thing though.. it has some serious fucking issues..

[@demensclay6419]

Respect?? Have you seen what he wears?? No respect for these fruitcakes, never, ever!

[@gregusmc2868]

I would agree with everything you’ve said but I think it means you have common “sense.” 👍🏼

[@batmanforpresident9655]

Will "lia" Thomas and EVERY other biological man should be forced to return EVERY medal/trophy/award they STOLE from those women.

[@andyappleton3353]

ya think?

[@rickraber1249]

Yes, but it's too late for the women who've been edged out of their spots on the swim team by guys like "lia" Thomas. Who happens to be bigger, taller, stronger, has larger lung capacity, longer limbs, etc. They've lost their chances for scholarships, places on elite teams, even the Olympics, because some guy wants to be happy with his female swim team medals.

[@andyappleton3353]

These girls and young women should begin the process of lawsuits against schools/institutions/athletic organizations/etc. to put an end to this madness. These "theys" and their supporters are not going to behave responsibly on their own. It's not going to happen. These theys must be actively confronted on all stages. If society at large continues to fail to act on these matters, then society at large has earned the consequences it will have earned.@@rickraber1249

[@sendthis9480]

Growing up I used to compete a lot in sports. But as I got older I realized that you can buy trophies. Now I’m #1 at everything!

[@terryjohnson3479]

After 60 years of feminists invading every boy's and men's space including the BOY Scouts why are they whining about men in their spaces? It's just the pendulum swinging the other way

[@bradfoster8146]

I'm just impressed that they were so respectful towards each other in this discussion

[@haroldthomas1576]

I addressed a school board a few months ago in Illinois about spending millions of dollars on constructing gender friendly bathrooms. I called it nonsense and EVIL. The board agreed to blow the money anyway.. However, I met one of the gender advocates after the meeting and had a friendly discussion. I told them I do not respect their IDEAS, their IDEAS are EVIL, but I bear them no personal hatred. Why would I hate them? Charlie in his discussion does the same--IDEAS and BEHAVIOR are very much up to discussion, challenge, and debate. This is NOT hate speech., it is FREE speech. I believe my schools should focus on EDUCATION and not play Chicago pleasing politics. We have PRIDE. other evil organizations, and groups in our schools that indoctrinate our children; Christians organizations are few and teachers are discouraged from exercising first amendment rights. If schools can't or won't allow Christian organizations in, then schools need to stay neutral as a minimum and focus on one thing--EDUCTATION-- the best in the world, #1 if possible.

[@highestpeeqs9532]

Jesus loves yall, died for us, and rose again! Jesus calls for all of us to repent! He's coming back

[@DrewHop325]

You're the problem this is a moronic conversation...

[@leightonrud66]

Not even 10 years ago it was this bad. In such a short span of time mental illness skyrocketed

[@naamamarkishorekumar822]

Exactly. Few years ago I didn’t even know what the alphabets meant. Someone from 2014 would ask, how did this happen??

[@octaviolopez9966]

SOCIAL MEDIA IS PART OF THIS, THOSE PEOPLE LIVE THEIR LIVES ON THEIR PHONE ON TIKTOK AND X-TWITTER

[@pHixiq]

Man I swear I was thinking the same thing..like straight up it just 10x’ed

[@stataval]

It’s because now everyone wants to be a beautiful and unique snowflake. Then think everyone else in the world should play pretend with them so their wittle fragile feelings don’t get hurt. I agree, they need to get tougher. Be happy that they live in a time that they can even transition in the first place. But demanding that the world then backs and supports your choice to do it, because you have buyers guilt… no thanks.

[@stataval]

It’s the equivalent of me buying a million dollar car, going bankrupt and homeless then crying about how people won’t call me brave and courageous. - sorry CARageous. That’s how I’d identify if this happened.

[@TheCornbread31]

This is one of the few videos that I completely respected the individual speaking with Charlie. Even though I didn’t agree with a single point this person made, there was a kindness and sincerity in his voice. Plus, he didn’t fly off the handle, get offended and tell Charlie to F off and storm away from the podium. Loved this interaction. Wish more of them were like this one.

[@bickdogi]

Love the attempt on trying to not use he/she or his/her pronouns, but as you can see, it's quite easy to continue to use he/she in situations where you're trying not to because society has such a stubborn structure.

[@TheCornbread31]

@@bickdogi so true. I gave up about halfway through my comment😂

[@johnmccall5576]

F kindness. If you're talking poop. You're talking poop.

[@timber72]

"He was polite as he pulled the trigger and shot my child in the back of the head. Much love and respect!"

[@timber72]

Is it kind to entertain the delusions of others? No, it is pure hatred.

[@56jsking]

Facts don't care about your feelings.

[@abcdefzhij]

Binkay

[@andyappleton3353]

Maybe the idea of "safe space" is what caused this insanity to happen.

[@johnschick5827]

EXACTLY!

[@erichizon6211]

Respect must be earned rather than demanded.

[@andyhanson2623]

I an hoping so hard that these conversations continue. What a great dialogue - shoutout to both sides for being respectful and actually conversing.

[@noah1502]

"i as a man, wish i was a woman, therefore all women should give me their spaces, their sports, their scholarships, let me into their private clubs, prisons, and all other vulnerable places OUT OF RESPECT" WHERE IS YOUR RESPECT FOR WOMEN???

[@theotherrobzombie]

Exactly!

[@dreymak4071]

I warned about this when it all started, that if we just believe this delusion simply one claims it that creepy, perverted, and predatory men would take advantage, and that's EXACTLY what we're seeing.

[@josephinesybers9981]

Thank you! I am so scared for my kids because they are growing up in this and it is getting to the point where biological women as now watching everything going on around them including trans women who went about their life normally.

[@billyb4790]

Isn’t it odd that the most socially abnormal people are demanding to be treated with social norms like respect and politeness?

[@Vardalon]

Actually a lot of women’s private clubs were founded because they couldn’t join the men’s clubs.

[@nickmiller1517]

It’s not disrespectful to call trans women men. In fact, it’s actually disrespectful to perpetuate the falsehood of their claim. Respect means to do right by others and not to make their delusions worse. Furthering a false narrative is always disrespectful.Charlie respects trans people more than they respect themselves. Good work.

[@lmntsgames3848]

Respect shouldn't trample over doing the right thing.. if someone says using drugs make them happy and comfortable even if it destroys their life, it's not disrespectful to call them out..

[@wannabecarguy]

​@@lmntsgames3848it has become socially unacceptable to call people out. I personally care about people and call them out which I believe is loving. However people take great offense to my words.

[@ViewerOnline101]

It's disrespectful to real women is what it is. You want to pretend to be a women, go for it, but you can't say you actually are one when you're not. Identifying as something and thinking you're something you're not doesn't make you that thing.

[@LUCEO90]

You can’t concede the ground of the ambiguous definition-change. They don’t get to change the meaning of words and wish reality into the corn fields. The same cohort did the same thing with the word “racism” then acted like everyone using the ACTUAL definition was wrong. It’s total BS.

[@M1sterE321]

All of this is very disrespectful to half the human population.

[@HelenaSummer]

Incredible non-judgmental encouragement, Bravo Charlie!

[@joeg.1618]

Honestly this is the way debates should be. Nobody got insulted, nobody yelled and screamed. They had differing opinions, and both people got to air their thoughts. They walked away respectfully. As much as i disagree with the argument being made, i respect the guy for not getting emotionally out of control because he was disagreed with.

[@George-cn1fz]

People with mental disabilities don't need to feel comfortable, they need to receive the proper help. Coddling them and telling a boy that "yes you are a girl" is not only absurd, it is detrimental to their health.

[@Wavelover33]

Most people think the whole thing is absurd. The problem is that the majority have no say

[@truthseeker1867]

The problem is, they assume gender dysphoria is a real condition. It isn't. They made that up to cover up the fact they have Aspergers and other severe spectrum disorders.

[@demogladawar]

Its like a train, if its moving very fast, its very hard to stop it immediately . Its the people around him that convinced him, and encouraged him to stay as "A woman". So, Time and reality will punish him harder than anyone who is already suffering from normal life = =''

[@user-gw9sk1zy4s]

Of course, it's an absurd demonstration of the power of leftism over our civilization.

[@trollgag5221]

If you ever feel useless, look at the person holding the mic to that delusional they/them.

[@markkelly1977]

This is how a true debate should be. Both sides taking their stance without it devolving into yelling or violence. Kudos to both of those people for being classy and respectful of one another's opinions

[@str1xt]

But the fact is , it shouldn’t be up for any kind of debate.

[@Roar2Bheard22]

​@@str1xtthese people were never taught what reality is so this is actually something very important for him to debate.

[@LunchMeatTrump]

Why are we giving congratulations to people for doing the bare minimum in our society? You lefties and your participation trophies are weird! Next we should tell people good job for breathing air?

[@Roar2Bheard22]

@@LunchMeatTrump I'm pretty sure you're not talking to any leftist in this comment thread lol. I used to be a lefty and that's why I have some sympathy for them. I grew up in a more Democratic family and had lefty friends too, even though I lived in a conservative community I was sheltered from other view points. We called the Republicans "country bumkins". I didn't learn the real world until a year ago.

[@paddy7713]

I'm shocked one of these things managed to behave so well. They usually have a psychotic episode within 10 seconds

[@rdel714]

No matter how lopsided it may seem this is what a debate should be absolute respect for one another no name calling no childish Tantrums no hate just a debate

[@Saiku]

Shoutout to the guy holding the mic trying not to laugh.

[@justgaming4fun-]

You gotta have a army training

[@lynnetrathen4587]

lol 😂

[@707zacbuster]

Everytime time charlie asks someone "what a women?" and they always respond "someone who identifies as a woman" i know he be ready to send them to the shadow realm via embarassment

[@funfact8660]

👍😂 comedy gold too

[@Echo-mg5em]

That was remarkably civil. To whomever it was that took to the microphone,thank you for being open to engaging in a polite, good-faith argument.

[@Bob-mo4no]

That’s just normal communication, not worthy of criticism sure, it not worthy of praise either.

[@TheForkOnTheLeftist]

​@@Bob-mo4nowhen society denegrates so much we have to overcorrect. Generally i agree with you though

[@loganle6566]

it’s very refreshing and pleasing to hear the mutual respect from both parties. this is what debates should be like

[@jaystoghnmohn5178]

IT SHOULD BE NO CASES OUT OF ANY!!!! KEEP BRINGING THE TRUTH CHARLIE....THANK YOU!!

[@TomMurray-pd5jj]

It never gets old watching your videos Charlie. Thank you for fighting back against this nonsense.

[@BeerLeagueGoalieGodfather]

I appreciate that this person seemed able to genuinely have an open discussion on this topic, was able to listen, and I wish them well. I wish more ppl like them behaved this way.

[@stevenwallacebaker9169]

he would still demand to compete against and beat your daughter in a swim race,changing naked in the same changing rooms and then sue her if she said it made her feel uncomfortable.

[@BeerLeagueGoalieGodfather]

This guy has never competed in anything beyond video games lol. pretty sure most girls would beat him :)@@stevenwallacebaker9169

[@2packrm781]

I think you meant to say this "noun". Why? Because they believe (that) they're something else. I hope my definition is appropriate.

[@ushankudagammana9963]

wish him well*

[@RLee-we1fc]

But on the other hand he is wearing those glove things. So he gets 0 points from me

[@the_olufash]

This is one of the most wholesome debates I've watched on this subject. Great job Charlie!

[@skyg5169]

Respect is earned, not given.

[@JoergB]

Very good comment, thanks.

[@ssssss-wu1dg]

So if you have a business meeting with someone do you treat them disrespectfull? Because you know, they did not earn your respect yet? What about strangers on the street? Do you treat them with no respect untill its earned?

[@JoergB]

@@ssssss-wu1dg Very good thought. I think there are two types of respect: one must be earned. A fighter with a white belt for example can not demand the same respect as somebodey with the nineth Dan. And yes, you are right: there is a claim for general respect. They do not exclude each other. Thanks for your comment.

[@hayden.52]

You should be respectful to people regardless, but not to these delusional psychopaths lmao

[@mountaingirl1753]

​​@@ssssss-wu1dg Perhaps what you mean is civility; the societal agreed-upon manners and conventions that allow a civilization to function. Civility values the other person as a person with innate value, and the society to which both parties belong. Respect is a deeper valuing of one person, or a group, who have earned that deeper valuing by their behavior and/or accomplishments.

[@nohandle242]

This young man is a sad example of what you get when you affirm someone's mental illness... Sad.

[@davidmaltais2912]

And most.likely grew up without a father

[@TheMercilessMelb]

I hope he can heal.

[@luierdaneenpamper3877]

@@davidmaltais2912 i think he was just indoctrinated by his peers, people get really brainwashed when they go to college

[@KOMMNSENSETHINKN]

He talks about wanting people comfortable, but he never talks about how UNcomfortable trans athletes make the rest of the team they're on. These women who have a trans athlete on their team are INCREDIBLE UNcomfortable, so why does an entire team have to be uncomfortable so 1 can be comfortable?

[@josephinesybers9981]

So if a trans women came into the locker room one who never came out as trans and she has a penis and boobs but you can clearly see she has boobs. She will get dressed without having to show her penis. Now you have people who are like Thomas who is fully intact and has no dna of being a lady and walks around naked showing off what he has. That is unacceptable and that would make everyone uncomfortable.

[@thehaze1972]

Not only on the team but also the rest of us that have to watch people with mental issues trying to destroy society.

[@miketexas4549]

Because making people comfortable has nothing to do with it. It's creeping Marxism that's in play here, and language has been weaponized.

[@nateg08]

​@@josephinesybers9981you lost any credibility at "her penis." "Her penis" doesn't exist.

[@jack002tuber]

What drives them is the power to control other people, not feelings, not respect.... power.

[@ranasdunit]

These conversations are totally fascinating to listen to.

[@digginholes]

This is epic. No disrespect to the debater. I hope they wake up and just be themselves.

[@andyappleton3353]

The question I have is...how is it that our western societies have become so mentally ill that this thing is even a real issue? How is something this absurd having such an influence on our lives?

[@Annakaydyct]

Probably way too far gone. That man is wearing fishnets

[@DUDEfreestyle]

​@@Annakaydyct😂

[@eaglerider1826]

@@Annakaydyct He is doing it for attention and wonders why he is being bullied .

[@SomeCanine]

What is with everyone praising the "Lack of disrespect" to this delusional person. Sometimes people need rude language thrown their way.

[@TheRealForgetfulElephant]

This guy with the question is a great example of debating respectfully.

[@harrellt1405]

He just wants respect. I cant imagine how much bullying he probably he had . Unfortunately, we cant give him what he wants since what makes him comfortable will make the rest uncomfortable.

[@octaviolopez9966]

OH YEAH?... tell that person HIS real (dead) name and see how "respectful" they are!

[@colinmyers9200]

Charlie, this is why i LOVE how you approach these discussions. you remained respectful the entire time and did not try to embarass them in any way. while i think ben shapiro and others like him are definitely extremely intelligent and are very capable of speaking logically.. they tend to use their platform more often than not to be disrespectful in these situations to get the room on their side. you made sure they had planty of time to share their opinion without interrupting and wholeheartedly thanked him for speaking at the end. you can tell that they actually appreciated how you showed them dignity and respect, even if you disagree with their beliefs. PLEASE never stop being this person.. kill everyone with kindness and we can all have much better open ended discussions.

[@JasonVictorEverett]

Nice to see the civility in this exchange. From both sides.

[@ootzz]

Got his ass lol, when he said "no that's a different mental condition" close book right there.

[@original_angston4155]

It is so ridiculous when they say 'all we want is respect', or 'we only want to be treated the same'. No. No you don't. I've seen this first hand. You don't want to be treated like everyone else, you want special treatment.

[@SMartypAntsPants]

Exactly! if they really wanted to be treated like everyone else, then they need to 'earn' respect, just like the rest of us.

[@user-jf3lo6ss2i]

Agree, I've started watching a detrans AGP videos here on YT and the language he uses is interesting, he does state that for some it may be more of an obsession or compulsion to wear women's clothes but for him it was really a "desire" and a "choice". They do want special treatment and this discussion is, as Charlie pointed out, framed around a victim mentality to garner sympathy.

[@karlcast4882]

Love seeing your videos so respectful.

[@anjav6]

Charlie, God bless you!

[@KoolAide187]

When the person behind the mic said: "transwomen should be allowed into womens sports because it makes them more comfortable" you could had easily brought up the comfort level that the women who are competing against a biological man might feel. Why does their comfort level not matter? If none of them have a problem with it, maybe it's not a big deal. But if 1 person isn't comfortable who are you or anybody else in the right, making them uncomfortable to make somebody else comfortable?

[@AB-ol5uz]

Yes- so there's no respect for the comfort/privacy of women changing clothes in front of men they don't know, showering in the same room, etc. let alone changing tampons/pads and dealing with other challenges unique to teen/adult women that men do not share. There is also somehow the presumption that all of these "trans" women are gay and thus, will not be aroused or otherwise a physical threat to the girls/women and that's far from correct. There is also no acknowledgment for sexual kinks like AGP that have nothing to do with having gender dysphoria and everything to do with being aroused by wearing women's clothing/being in women's spaces. Bottom line - only BIOLOGICAL women should be allowed to compete against each other and be in women's spaces (and that includes in-person spaces like dressing rooms/locker rooms and online forums for biological women's issues (breast cancer, pregnancies, fertility issues, postpartum, menopause, etc.) Ironically "trans" women have joined those forums and taken them over looking for validation/attention because they aren't lucky enough to experience those things....they have joined Lesbian dating sites and thrown a fit when gay women turn them down or report them as being inappropriate for the forum since they are biological MEN in a group of biological women that are only attracted to other biological women, etc.). It's crazy the hoops the narcissists demand that people jump through to validate all at the expense of the actual women that are seeking support in these various spaces.

[@velkanzi]

See, that is why Charlie was so brilliant here. He was aware that this guy ( where I come from "guy" is often used as a unisex word, get over yourselves ) was so egocentric that that perfectly good argument would not affect him at all. You may even make a case that trans genders are the ultimate misogynists.

[@DarthKater311]

Right? This is the ultimate misogyny. A man telling us who a woman is and that they can get periods. Like can we have ANYTHING to ourselves?? Some man told me i can’t gatekeep motherhood. I can’t.

[@AdmiralHalimesh]

​@@DarthKater311we live in a satire reality show these days

[@theworstcatholic7247]

@@DarthKater311 To be fair, you can't gatekeep motherhood. God already did it for you. No amount of clenching's going to pop out a baby.

[@Alison2436]

This was an absolutely brilliant debate. Charlie nailed it and i am thankful he is standing up for us women, 59% of the population do not need to give up our rights so 0.1% of the population can feel privileged.

[@jorty.]

Great debate and so refreshing to see the opposite person keeping his calm.

[@stustu9717]

The person was very respectful and maintained decorum in a debate which presumably they have very strong feelings about. Kudos. Need more open discussion like that.

[@user-ve4ig6pw1s]

I REFUSE to play into anyone's delusion just so they can "feel better" about their delusion.

[@isabela.ringing2644]

How about religious people.

[@emilyeccles9212]

I gotta say, I have respect for people who can carry out a calm and collective conversation.

[@joshuapaivamatoscordeiro6969]

Massive respect for this person discussing in a respectful and goodfaith manner.

[@swoopingeagle6902]

Back in the day they had " special Olympics" we should create a "trans Olympics" let them duke it out between themselves

[@velkanzi]

It would certainly weed out the cowards who swap gender because they want to win at something. Normal people DO notice that very few, if any women who go trans compete against men.

[@stevenwallacebaker9169]

still no getting away from the fact it would always be men competing against women though

[@velkanzi]

@@stevenwallacebaker9169 They would compete in a trans category. They can have as many as they like. Two would likely be sufficient… for rational people.

[@nothingreallyrhymeswithora9377]

There aren't enough trans people to make such an event be consistent. Only 1.5 percent of the population is trans. Now, disregarding the "fake" trans people like non-binary and transtrenders, how many trans athletes would actually be able to take part? I can bet you a local event would struggle to fill the event without getting people from everywhere around the country.

[@adriancarmona7416]

Man, a the 8:14 mark Charlie nailed it when he explained why conservatives push back on this agenda. Live your life however you want, but when you get out into society and try to restructure everything around your personal feelings and willing to use power to achieve it, that is when conservatives draw the line and push back!!

[@shdkzpdls]

The definition of the word "respect" is intentionally kept ambiguous so they can demand whatever makes them feel good temporarily and act like it's their right

[@dr.abyscharles2904]

That was a grounded conversation. Well done

[@sombojoe]

Charlie kept saying “Making 50% of the population uncomfortable…” Why does he think men are comfortable with this new situation?

[@CleverGirlAAH]

🤣 Fair.

[@ajax9396]

Because you don’t see women transitioning to men sports and winning

[@sombojoe]

@@ajax9396 You’re right, “winning” is an understatement!

[@MikeMarlowe-ym3zy]

Well to be fair it’s not our locker rooms we’re seeing these people ogling us in. And if a woman does want to come in and be a guy, they don’t just become intimidating and scary like a man to us. It’s not the same thing. They weird us out in public, they’re scaring women in private spaces.

[@salguodrolyat2594]

Because In the USA nobody cares for what men think.🤣

[@AlexReynard]

The thing I've most commonly observed when speaking to people in the trans community is that they have a terrifying lack of empathy for anyone not in their community. It does not ever occur to them to consider the feelings and needs of anyone who isn't them. Like the way a small child or an animal doesn't consider anything outside of themselves. No matter how well-meaning they are, if they can't empathize, they can't compromise, and so their side is doomed to fail.

[@spicysith9627]

True, they are very jealous of their comfort and of the respect they think they are owed, but don´t give a damn about how uncomfortable they make other people, or how much they disrespect normal folk. In fact, they enjoy being obnoxious, nasty and destructive towards anyone they see as an enemy. Karens with dicks.

[@michaelmercury1297]

I've noticed that too.

[@MrSamrobz]

That is narcissistic behaviour. Seems very common among the wokies.

[@winstonwolf6791]

To be fair, what you are describing are the "trans-activist" community. Most of them are not even trans because they don't actually suffer from gender-dysphoria. They are usually the "you can identify as whatever you feel and change back and forth" crowd. Actual trans people are mostly horrified by what is going on as well. Actual trans people are desperate to pass as the gender they identify with because of their illness, but realize that doesn't mean they aren't still the gender they were born. If you have a chance watch some videos by Marcus, Buck or Blair. These are actual trans people who are dealing with being trans in a healthy way and are not anything like the activists cosplaying as trans.

[@vxy357]

Yep! They are very narcissistic and misogynistic.

[@AgustinePimentel]

Great conversation. This is what debate should be like ...

[@LemonScreech]

Courtesy can be given, respect is earned.

[@Banannalands]

Honestly, Props to this kid for coming to this civilly and with respect, normally we just see them cussing and screaming with no argument or humility.

[@TheMary0831]

I hope he recovers from whatever delusional disorder he's got.

[@sorenhansen3288]

You're right. This guy actually didn't screech line chewbaca every time facts were thrown. Great job to him

[@ArchangelMichael94]

The respect and discourse in this interaction was truly refreshing

[@octaviolopez9966]

OH YEAH?... tell that person HIS real (dead) name and see how "respectful" they are!

[@baker47100]

This is such a W for civil discourse between the two isles. Conversations like these need to continue to happen

[@Geologynut37]

I wish all debates were this way. Awesome exchange of ideas!

[@FightForFreedom24]

God Bless you Charlie

[@ial927]

"Instead of removing everything that offends you in the world, i want you to dig deeper and be tougher than the people around you. That's what we believe. Cant have liberty and comfort together." Well said Charlie. May your tribe increase.

[@lemaydiane55]

Great words!!!

[@gillcawthorn7572]

These words that you quoted are exactly what I have felt for a couple of decades ,about the growing generations coming forward with mental health problems. Those of us ,from whatever country, who lived through the years of WW2 had no time to dwell on feelings. This is probably the same for those from third world countries today, with daily struggles just to keep themselves and their families going until tomorrow. What doesn`t kill you makes you stronger. Where you have a nation massively worried about mental health ,you have a weak nation.

[@DarkDyllon]

@@gillcawthorn7572 not even just the years of WW2, i'm 31 now, I was bullied through elementary and middle school, always have been an outsider, never having many friends. guess where i am now with my life, I got a well paying job, I got friends who will back me up if I need it (only 2-3 real friends) and at this point, the only things that could potentially make me go off the rails is if someone threathens my mom or my brothers. there's nothing in this world anyone can say that would genuinely piss me off anymore, since i've been subjected to it for atleast 7-8 years straight, and i'm kinda glad I went through that, i've grown much stronger thanks to that than I would've been if I was in a big circle of "friends" who constantly confort me at any slight inconvenience. You grow stronger in times that are harder than times that are easy, if you constantly have a group of basically cheerleaders behind you saying "you did nothing wrong! it's all fault!" you will never become stronger.

[@evolvedhustler]

Round of applause for Charlie here 👏👏 Thank you for your work

[@chipie_guy]

the way you put the adult playing in a childrens socker game cuz he identifies as a child was GOLDEN it really put a big smile on my face lol

[@andersandersen6295]

This gender dysphoria phenomenon has become fashion for some people, like collecting tattoes and getting them in the face. its a phase they go through some do it as a way to revolt against parents or being "conformist" a few years ago it was high fashion to dress in all black and hang out in cemetarys. gender swapping is just that in a new package.

[@privacyfig]

some say it's this generation's counterculture. If so, there is a chance it will go away like all countercultures.

[@winstonwolf6791]

Exactly. Actual trans people are horrified by the "activists" who are basically cosplaying and who wouldn't know gender dysphoria if it bit them in nose ring.

[@privacyfig]

@@winstonwolf6791 " Actual trans people are horrified by the 'activists'" That's why I hate these activist narcissists so much: in all the noise and chaos they create, normal people whom they are purporting to help are getting completely lost. On top of that, most people don't really stop long enough to think and realize that a gay/trans political activist is not the same as gay/trans person and so they transfer their animosity towards activists onto everyday people who just want to lead normal lives, to be treated like everyone else, and aren't really asking for any special privileges.

[@andersandersen6295]

I never heard a actual trans person say that, but the cosplay/counterculture anology is spot on in my opinion.@@winstonwolf6791

[@TheSaintBigFoot]

Nailed it

[@00vondough00]

That's the problem, they treat anything that disagrees with them as "bullying"

[@chasenextlevel4840]

Absolutely insane this is even up for debate….

[@dksayt]

It is a mental issue. My mother was institutionalized for a mental disorder. She ended up being cured but while she wasn't cured she could not be allowed to function in society.

[@morningstar6552]

You're an absolute breath of fresh air Mr Kirk, i find myself so often in agreement with you. And being trapped in what seems much like a cacophonous echo chamber of toxic wokery and socially regressive liberalism en masse these days is absolutely exasperating. Keep up the good work, i am in awe of your patience in the face of such unequivocal ignorance. I salute you sir, warmest regards from the U.K

[@MrSamrobz]

Have to agree, this woke shit is utterly exhausting and I will not play along with any of it.

[@stephen4763]

⁠@@MrSamrobztimes 1000. It is so exhausting to deal with mentals like this. My patience runs thin.

[@morningstar6552]

@@stephen4763 Genuinely I'm awe of him, keeping his composure even when he's being shouted down by the lunatic leftists. Supporting terrorists like Hamas, believing in lies like white privilege and systemic racism, arguing FOR segregation... championing cheating sports individuals with serious mental issues. Their hatred for their own country is so jarring, if they hate America so much... Leave? Go to a more similarly minded country like North Korea... See how far they get then. They're beyond pathetic.

[@lemaydiane55]

Bravo , you nailed it!

[@aimeelung7933]

So impressive for both sides honestly. What a great discussion and an absolute pleasure to hear truth come from this amicable process of reasoning and logic.

[@nolanf7023]

actually refreshing to hear both sides have a debate without screaming or name calling.

[@ModerateMiddle]

@@nolanf7023100% I appreciate this discussion. I was worried for a minute with Charlie as he started raising his voice, but he brought it back down. When speaking to someone who has such ideological differences- it’s VERY important to speak in a diplomatic and respectively tone to not lose the argument- which both of them did fairly well here.

[@hundredbandzbulls]

Only one side has logic

[@stevenwallacebaker9169]

@@ModerateMiddle they aren't ideological differences,one person was an absolute fool and the other was not,its not helpfull to call being totally embarrassingly wrong on a subject as an ideological difference.

[@mcf777]

100%

[@grasshopperfiddler]

Amazing conversation

[@ralphnewcomejr]

😆 Your comfort and feelings mean NOTHING to me...😃👍

[@michelemcbee5320]

Both of them were so courteous and thoughtful about every word they said. That was impressive as hell. Could the rest of us please follow this example and get some damn work done?

[@lemaydiane55]

Bravo , you nailed it!

[@stevenwallacebaker9169]

no, do not bother to speak to Charlie Kirk unless you have something interesting to say,do not go and regurgitate the same old woke childish narrative so we all have to listen to Mr Kirk wasting his brain dismantling the arguments of a passive aggressive teenager in a dress,Impressive???!! what kind of state are we in if we think talking utter drivel but without swear words is impressive??!! Jeeze we have a low bar.

[@Crucial_End]

"All we want is recognition and respect" suchs things are earned not given. These people demand it at the threat of being canceled, public bullying and having your life ruined. I hope to see a massive pushback against this madness, what we have today is not nearly enough. Give them them the treatment that their despiccable actions have earned them.

[@eddiemeeks7133]

Weird!! Just weird.

[@kamalkhamis2999]

Respect to this man standing up and talking about his beliefs, what a courageous dude, good job man, all the best sir.

[@joelprouse7702]

Can we just stop a second and commend this person for their willingness to actually have this discussion and disagree with respect

[@stevenwallacebaker9169]

no we can laugh at them for being so completely stupid,and be utterly horrified at a society that instead of taking issue with someone that demands people respect their feelings while stamping all over others, claps them for speaking their dangerous drivel with out swear words! At this point we have entered some kind of hell like dystopia

[@DarkDyllon]

@@stevenwallacebaker9169 exactly this. what annoys me more than anything is that they felt some slight pushback from the world and instantly pretent the world is out to get them. in the past i've always held the belief "whatever you do in the comfort of your own home is on you, but don't push it on me" but the more this goes on, the more deranged it becomes, we went from tollerating it, to needing to accept it or else you can actually have some legal concequences. I'm not applauding this idiot for anything, he stood there willingly debating on something that is already questionable, stating something like "trans-women can compete with women" is just factually wrong, same that trans-whatever are what they say they are, there's no concistency, all they want is to get complete control over us, but goodluck getting me to call you whatever you want.

[@miketexas4549]

Like disagreeing that 1 + 2 = 3

[@KingErnestG3238]

Wants people to accept what they want to be but can even accept for themselves what they are

[@yanna1993]

Make it make sense

[@joanne2389]

I love that they actually had a discussion and were being respectful to each other.

[@Pj0tter]

Wow. Just wow on so many levels. The fact that this is even a debate to the fact of mutual respect form both speakers and the audience to come to an understanding. Also the amount of intelligence and quick thinking of Charlie is amazing.

[@hanskellynogua7110]

Thankyou Charlie. Keep standing up for Truth and Sanity

[@misskitty7235]

If not for Charlie i would be going crazy. The safety and feeling of it’s ok normal people exist when I listen to him is so calming

[@Lee-mi5el]

Same feeling

[@tony77tony77]

it is crazy that they are having this discussion. WOW!!!

[@kristofferlape]

I absolutely love Charlie's advice for that young man: "instead of trying to remove everything that offends you in the world, I want you to become tougher than the people around you." More young people need to have an internal locus of control, and through it a way out of their suffering through strength of character.

[@freedomoperator6502]

This is the issue with these mental cases. They want to be comfortable at everyone else's expense. Don't care at all that they make everyone else uncomfortable. Making it a bunk argument.

[@OhyLeanne]

❤Open up mental hospitals and help the confused.❤

[@funfact8660]

Bring back the thorazine, shock treatments, lobotomies, and straightjackets

[@everythingiswhat]

If you want respect, then I will never lie to you.

[@nigeldarrah4573]

What a wonderful example of a debate.

[@Adamanthon]

The fact that we have to answer these questions posed by these sick individuals… mad world.

[@AnnaH74]

This did not happen when I was at school. From Juniors upwards to secondary school, females were split from the males in all sports. There was no fighting or arguing about it. We certainly did not have any males coming into our changing rooms or toilets. Basic biology was taught and nobody argued against it.

[@sergeantmason]

True i miss those times

[@SirZipper]

Good times indeed...

[@itsmatt517]

Well sure, any guy would have been ridiculed as a pervert if they had attempted to pretend to be one of the girls

[@IscariottActual]

Props to both people for having a conversation

[@brigettesmith1381]

Love Charlie, thank goodness we have people like him in this world..

[@HcKingPin]

Respect is never "deserved" it is EARNED!

[@ronaldraygunpew]

Wow someone who actually respectfully had a conversation without getting emotionally enraged. Kudos

[@MaxPayne909]

One of the few dialogues of the that was respectful on both sides! I have disagreements with what was said by both of them but I thoroughly enjoyed this discussion.😊

[@ClassicHolic]

If you have to demand respect, then you don't deserve respect.

[@daved6317]

Funny how his entire argument is based on feelings. Leave your feelings at home when you enter the real world

[@dcbarrku4882]

Oppression Olympics most certainly exists. I’ve talked to multiple psychologists and therapists and they mention the importance and usefulness oppressiveness has become to the younger generation.

[@jawley]

i love Charlies respectful tone in this conversation

[@samanthav8728]

Your comfort is not my problem to maintain! It is theirs! Your "comfort" is extremely UNcomfortable to me personally! Where are my rights???

[@joanneparry8549]

Why is it that only trans women want to compete in women's events but we never hear of trans men wanting to competing in men's events?