The Ultimate Rematch Chrollo Vs Hisoka

[@Guarde1520]

I believe that when Hisoka told Maki that fighting multiple opponents was too much even for him, he was just talking about the clones. The mistake was made by Maki. She thought that Hisoka figured out that the other spiders were helping Chrollo. When she replied that he should CHOOSE his fights, it means that he didn't have a choice on the previous fight. It was all the spiders against him. When he heard that from Maki, it was then and there that he figured it out and felt cheated. This is why he decided to kill all the spiders, since they participated in the death match. He is just ending what has already started, under his terms.

[@arcer4524]

"He should choose his fights" is a common expression that is frequently used by evryone. How did you conclude that all the spiders were helping chrollo from this expression?

[@gevoian]

im pretty sure hisoka knows most of the spiders abilities so why would he only realize after the fight that the spiders were helping chrollo when he probably realized it during the fight?

[@Guarde1520]

@@gevoian Some hints are given during the fight. Hisoka's calculations of abilities and there uses was off, which led to him losing. The problem was the usage of said abilites and the speed on how Chrollo was able to use them. The cheat possibly handind the abilties back to the spiders midfight so they can help him speed the clone creation and the spreading of bomb marks. I've seen more intricate explanations of this theory, and it lines up with Hisoka's decision to kill all of them for screwing him over and his one-on-fight with Chrollo

[@BlueCosmo369]

@@Guarde1520togashi also literally has his own statements within the manga chapter and he hints the reasons why Hisoka is going after the phantom troupe. So it’s kinda confirmed that the Phantom Troupe interfered.

[@ggwp638BC]

The theory that Chrollo cheated is pretty bad. - Gallery fake does not disappear once he stops using it. - Hisoka has high battle IQ but he clinically underestimate his enemies (much like Killua). This man wanted to throw down with Netero. Think about that for a moment. If Netero took up on his challenge Hisoka would be a smear on the wall before he could blink, yet the clown thought he could break the old man. His overconfidence was his demise. - If Chrollo was going to cheat, he could have just the whole Spider jump Hisoka and be the end of it. Yes, Hisoka is strong, but if he couldn't out maneuver a single Chrollo he wouldn't be able to deal with 9 nen users at the same time. - The spiders also have a sense of pride and honor, given you can join the troupe by killing a member. And Chrollo isn't one to shy from a fight. He took on two Zoldycks by himself after Uvogin's death, and was trying to steal their hatsu. And he is a floor leader, which also implies he enjoys a fight from time to time.

[@metti7778]

What should Hisoka do? He said he finds the fact that Netero keeps himself so vulnerable is hot to him (LOL) So Netero is exceptionally good at hiding how strong he is. There is no reason why hisoka should've been scared of Netero in that moment.

[@quanau1778]

Togashi wrote in the end of volumn 34 that he loves fight between two great fighters or something like that. So it would be kinda nonsense if Chrollo cheated on Hisoka. The fight of the two also hides some interesting meanings that continues from Yorknew city arc. Yorknew is a story about fate (I believe so), where fate controls every character in the story. Like Chrollo belives everyone are the puppets to destiny (a fan theory) and we have Chrollo stuck with Hisoka despite having a wise coclusion about "Judas". Turns out, Spider's Judas doesnt seek money or fame like Chrollo said, but he seek for good fights. Chrollo was controled by fate so he coundt see tje real face of Hisoka. But after that, now the clown is clear as the day, he didnt hide in fate, no identity, anymore. Now Chrollo is the one hiding in fate, in the flow of lifes, of human. From there he attacked Hisoka like every soul in fate might attack an invidual. This is just a small part of a whole view but i belive you get what i mean. The judege: You can choose any weapon (fate, human). Fight with your pride and something i dont remember. Hisoka: So he didnt lie (about using face up cards) Togashi's mind is awesome

[@DrooledOn]

@@metti7778 well hisoka thinks he is stronger than all the zodiacs and graded them all based on their aura compared to his. He should’ve been able to tell he had no shot or his rating of everyone during the election arc is not accurate.

[@WardofSquid]

@@quanau1778 love this👑

[@pluto9837]

The only ones who theorize about Chrollo cheating are Hisoka's salty fanboys LoL.

[@TizerakYT]

Of course he had help, THE ENTIRE CROWD. Not to mention Shalnark gave him his phone manipulator ability, and he had the ability of one of the higher ups in Meteor City.

[@blueflowers807]

There is no such thing as cheating in a fight especially a DEATH match. Chrollo was smart enough to use his resources.

[@joshuagcabashe2691]

Death matches have no rules, your right, Chrollo didn’t cheat.

[@GustavoDosSantos-qc1st]

@@joshuagcabashe2691true

[@saj9078]

Fr hate wen people say that Baki have the best philosophy on fighting

[@trevonblair9161]

Bro this was genuine lol. You decided Hisoka was gunna win and formulated this argument around that 😂

[@-Mintyy]

Great video man! Love how thought out and well put it all is. God it would be amazing to even just get to see chrollo seriously fighting for his life, all hyped up and bleeding an shit. No more Mr cool guy

[@cristianrojas800]

What do you think will happen when Ging and Hisoka interact? Or if they do. I feel like hisoka is very confident and cocky and if tries to talk with ging he won’t have any of it. Really want to see them together

[@sippinlosses]

I'm surprised hisoka never showed interest or asked gon about ging. Maybe it's possible he already knew of ging, and that's why he was so interested in gon.

[@swiggydswirl330]

@@sippinlosses that's if he knows Gon is Ging's son

[@cristianrojas800]

@@sippinlosses I think he does already know about him. In the last arc of the anime during the election, Hisoka asks a couple members of the Zodiac asking for Ging and they tell him he isn’t there. And I forgot but what is that even about? Why did hisoka even want to talk to Ging?? Very interesting but I don’t think Hisoka knows that Gon is Gings son.

[@laquanlucas6953]

Ging is very hard guy to find and Hisoka will check how strong ging is he very popular in hunter association.

[@tgrizz213t]

Ging always says find him. As one of the best hunter, hisoka will never find him. That's how good ging is. He will not entertain useless events like fighting hisoka

[@Urrrgcantdecide]

I think this video misrepresents how the first fight between Hisoka and Chrollo went. Yes, Chrollo had a lot of prep time and had to utilize a lot of different abilities. But to say that the fight was actually close is just untrue. Hisoka was on the back foot the entire time and while he did have a few surprise attacks with Bungee Gum, Chrollo was never in any significant danger of dying. Meanwhile, Hisoka was fighting for his life from the beginning. The fact that Hisoka had to acknowledge to himself that he was going to die shows that he got humbled. Also I don't buy that Chrollo was cheating because if he was going to cheat, he might as well have completely rigged the entire audience from the beginning so that they were already set to explode the second the referee said start. There was no point in cheating in a covert way if one of them was going to end up dead. As far as the rematch, Hisoka is stronger now but truthfully for someone of Chrollo's battle prowess, he's predictable. Unless he picked up a completely new ability with his post-mortem nen that we haven't seen, Hisoka's standard bungee gum attacks were all anticipated by Chrollo in the first fight. Meanwhile, Chrollo has a plethora of abilities to steal on the ship now and is also completely unpredictable as the video states, in terms of what abilities he already has that he's never shown to Hisoka or us as the audience for that matter. The point is that the first fight was a rigged domination, just due to Hisoka's arrogance and Chrollo's strategic planning. This fight will be much more even but I still think Chrollo should be favored here due to his unpredictable nature UNLESS Hisoka has some completely new nen ability that will catch Chrollo by surprise

[@yolobabyy7]

Dude, I absolutely love your videos ! Honestly keep it up, it makes following the HxH manga a lot more pleasant and really helps fill the emptiness felt between chapter releases Appreciate u bro

[@NeXus49]

Hey, great video as always. I just have one maybe an argument for Chrollo. Because at the beginning of their battle he said that this fight and thus his whole strategy was about style. So he didn't want to kill Hiskoa with punches and kicks, he wanted to destroy his spirit and show him, that he is on a whole other level. After Hisoka gained a post-mortem nen boost, he is at least on Chrollo's level. But what I wanted to say by this is that Chrollo did not necessarily use the big guns (meaning stolen abilities) in their fight at heavens arena. I'm not gonna say bullshit like he has some busted ability that can cut off someone's nen (some people say that and it is not impossible but at the same time, not a valid argument) I'm just saying that Chrollo could have more tricks up his sleeve than we might think.

[@mohammedAli-uh8ie]

idk I think hisoka was at a disadvantage in every aspect and got pummeled because of it now hes way stronger and hes gonna fight chrollo on his terms so its probably gonna be alot different

[@NeXus49]

@@mohammedAli-uh8ie Yes, I definitely agree, the fight will be different a lot. I was just trying to say that Chrollo could have some other abilities effective against Hisoka, but he didn't want to use them in Heaven's arena, because that fight was about devastating him mentally. Which would not be possible if he killed him instantly. Implying Chrollo maybe did not use the strongest abilities he has. But of course, I could be wrong.

[@mr-turtle-m8118]

There is no evidence that he's gained any extra power from post mortem nen, all we know is that he willed into his nen the intent to pump his heart and lungs after he died

[@Seolous]

Imagine prepping for 1 year and altering how your hatsu works plus lending ability just to defeat someone in style. That doesn't sound like chrollo at all

[@NeXus49]

@@Seolous Chrollo literally, said it himself, but as I've already written, it was about crushing Hisoka's spirit as well, I think it was the primary reason to use this strategy.

[@flyinghaze7599]

People forget about Chrollo's indoor fish ability..

[@apeesteranime2956]

You’re right I totally did

[@_Night6wl_]

Thankyou Apeester for sharing this. I appreciate it very much. I'm a freakin' huge fan of Hunter × Hunter. Stay awesome dude!✌🏻

[@Timetiger]

Biggest thing for me is that this 2nd fight won't be some staged affair. It won't be inside an arena. Itll be a street fight. An assassination attempt. A straight up mauling without trying to feel the opponent out. Whoever gets the jump on who first will potentially be huge unless the author wants to have them converse before they throw hands.

[@jdddyyy1]

Hisoka is definitely winning rd2. Will it be enough to kill Chrollo? That is the question

[@indra8439]

I feel like you're not having Chrollo's sheer anger from Hisoka targeting spider members in equation for this fight. Chrollo is smart, resourceful and cold, him being angry with Hisoka would just make him take Hisoka with full seriousness. Chrollo explained his whole plan to Hisoka right before their fight and still won, this time he'd be more unpredictable and dirty. About Chrollo having unshown abilities, I personally wouldn't be surprised if he had some self-destructive or high risk high reward stolen abilities he rarely uses or that he just prefers to keep unused. Maybe he might even steal abilities from mafia members? I think that'd be interesting.

[@natenatenate10]

I think Chrollo's angry at himself--as well as Hisoka--due to Shalnark and Kortopi not having the means to protect themselves since their borrowed abilities weren't yet returned. I can only imagine how personally responsible he feels at not finishing Hisoka off & leaving his allies completely vulnerable. All because he wanted to style on Hisoka. I don't see him winning in their 2nd encounter--at the very least, not without suffering heavy loss--lest the reasoning behind Hisoka reviving would be without purpose.

[@punishedsan5900]

the problem with most analysis of the fight is the pov of both fighters going in, as hisoka came in with the want of a fair(ish) fight. Where as chrollo only saw hisoka as an annoyance delaying the fight up to a year for prep as a way of guaranteeing victory which is shown by how he explains his abilities b4 hand, as that is a main advantage of his hatsu gone just like that showing just how confident he was in victory as he fights for survival whilst hisoka does so for fun really tips it in his favour come the round 2

[@Syrup4prez]

I think it’s realistic to believe that chrollo was creating a plan from the day he knew hisoka and him will meet a 3rd time.

[@diadiecisse3089]

Chrollo fought against Zeno and Silva at the same time! And it seemed like he purposefully wanted to fight a handicap match. Chrollo would never back down from a fight against the likes of Hisoka.

[@dontworryaboutit5490]

He did for about a year though

[@Page_max]

Lol chrollo knew that he would survive against zoldycks because he considered that event similar to an afternoon coffee break. Same as he told kurapika. Hisoka is much stronger now and far more dangerous.

[@diadiecisse3089]

@@dontworryaboutit5490 he didn’t have any nen??

[@diadiecisse3089]

@@Page_max Hisoka being dangerous is a constant. He surely is more powerful because his bungee gum evolved or whatever but keep in mind that we have yet to see what Chrollo can really do. Against the zoldycks he wasn’t going all out as he stated that he couldn’t steal their abilities. He killed hisoka once and in my opinion he will do it again if their paths cross.

[@Page_max]

@@diadiecisse3089 lol he failed to kill hisoka and that is why hisoka is still alive. Hisoka just used the defense of getting killed through asphyxiation instead of the bomb and that is why he is still alive. Chrollo was confident against the Zoldycks because he has already read the prophecy that he is not going to die.

[@leeroyking1088]

New chapter confirms chrollo is built different I think this whole mini war arc is leading up to chrollo stealing certain princes nen abilities i can imagine chrollo stealing tsereidnich ability to see 10 seconds into the future that would be the nail in the coffin for hisoka even with post mortem nen and would definitely guarantee his survival on the dark continent

[@torresmoblade]

10 seconds is enough time to Hisoka rip Chrollo's arms.

[@eytbits]

@@torresmoblade but he didn't so he lost to chrollo lol

[@dontworryaboutit5490]

I honestly think He would never be able to steal the fourth princes ability. There’s too many conditions, and he literally has 2 nen beasts, is a specialist, considered the ultimate prodigy, and also has a literal, personal army and gang behind him. I do realize his half sister is trying to overthrow him, but I think there’s too many cards in his favor for Chrollo to handle

[@leeroyking1088]

@@dontworryaboutit5490 the conditions are pretty simple and chrollo has a deep comprehension with understanding nen abilities and he's top tier in intellect being able to already understand and have many multiple abilities its very likely (90%) that chrollo for sure that can steal tserried ability of future sight and the way bandit secret works one of the conditions is to willingly give chrollo your ability so at some point in the story we will have to see chrollo actually use bandit and someone willingly give their ability to him the question is who will togashi put in that predicament in my mind it just seems narratively odd to put the phantom troupe hisoka and the empire in a chaotic confrontation which is where the story is currently at with phantom troupe currently searching hisoka and hisoka shuffling cards with empire chrollo most definitely could potentially suffer a fatal wound from a newly buffed hisoka retreat and somehow learn of tserriednich ability and use that ability to gain the edge on hisoka it seems like that ability suits chrollo best especially with his new backstory andtogashi putting the spotlight on him directly after hyping up the princes HMMMMMM TOGASHI 🤔 like before this backstory i wouldnt even think chrollo would do that but the chronology of how togashi is telling the story adds up 👍🔥🔥🔥🔥 fire theory no?

[@Page_max]

Only if you are writing the succession contest arc....and thank God you are not

[@ryanime20]

I think Hisoka is obsessed with his own power and Chrollo's power is more obsessed with taking other peoples power. I think that means Hisoka's battle with Chrollo isn't even about Chrollo and more about how he preforms against everyone and since in the manga there are a lot of new characters that have unique overpowered mechanisms, it may suggest that the dark continent is going to be more about characters teaming up to fight monsters like a puzzle in which they have to solve together kinda like in Greed Island. Which I loved Greed Island so i'm excited.

[@WardofSquid]

*So what you're SAYING is.... TLDR: Bungee Gum has the properties of both Rubber AND Gum🤔🤔

[@apeesteranime2956]

See you get it

[@joeldelborrito8622]

I love you videos. Very detailed and and makes me think about it in a way I would have never thought of. Even after reading it myself

[@undataphstarlane6752]

You earned new sub keep vids rolling i realy like your hxh vids seen em all

[@AmViR1]

I completely disagree with the theory about Chrollo getting help, He is a specialist that can steal or use other people Nen abilities, he did not need any of the troop to be involved on his fight. Plus Chrollo knew all this time Hisoka was following him and wanting to fight him for so long, I am sure Chrollo would not make that risk.

[@scias3387]

Great video!! For me, i think that is very likely that someone will interfere with the fight, because that are mafia members (and Kurapika) hunting down each other / hisoka / spiders, so that are a lot of variables that can make the fight more unbalanced / intense and cool!

[@nagorepalaciosdelafuente]

Also Hisoka is breaking Chrollo psychologicali, he is usually cold and very methodical, now he is being emotional and that can be fatal, Hisoka is playing a psychological fight, also add the factot that Kurapika is on the boat who knows maybe they don't even have a rematch

[@cristianrojas800]

Very good point. And what if some crazy twist happens out of nowhere like Kurapika kills chrollo or one of the troupe members, and that alone triggers hisokas insane amount of rage and sends things into even moreee chaos. Like there’s so many endless amounts of possibilities for everybody in this arc it’s actually insane.

[@nagorepalaciosdelafuente]

@@cristianrojas800 Just imagine an alliance between Hisoka and Kurapika or Illumi being an undercover agent helping Hisoka, who knows maybe this time he even has allies like Chrollo

[@Tyler_Frenzy]

I still fail to comprehend why so many people think Chrollo needed all that he used to beat Hisoka. The whole point of that fight was to show that if Chrollo gets pissed at someone, he will defeat them in the most humiliating way possible. He had 100% control over that whole fight and made Hisoka look like a braindead moron who didnt know how to fight. Chrollo went out of his way to set it all up so that he would have literal absolute victory against Hisoka. Why would you assume he needed all this just to pull off a win ? Even in the volume extras after that fight, Togashi literally says that he wanted to write a fight where the bad guy talked shit about having assured victory and then actually winning. And even from a narrative perspective, with Hisoka literally throwing his life away in exchange for amped nen, fighting Chrollo who needed to write a Batman fanfic just to beat him... Of course he'd destroy a Chrollo fighting on an even footing with him, regardless of what kind of random bs abilities Chrollo has in his book, which he did not even elect to use in their previous battle. Having Chrollo rely on random tricks sounds like a boring narrative for someone like Tigashi to use anyways

[@PsyduckChad]

I feel like both Hisoka and Chrollo will both die somehow and Machi and maybe some or one other phantom troupe will survive during this Arc, but that's just a guess. If I end up being right remind me.

[@aimentetbirt1363]

Amazing video! I love how you took everything into consideration. About the content thing, why don't you do a berserk first read like @TotallyNotMark did with it and so many other manga series. I'd love to watch you do a bimonthly analysis series of each arc or volume.

[@apeesteranime2956]

Berserk shall be added to the list

[@jurhyify]

I’m like very very confident that kurapika and Hisokas motivations of killing the troupe will clash and it will either lead to conflict between the two or ultimately them unintentionally helping each other. With hxh it could be endless possibilities.

[@jurhyify]

I have another guess that kurapika may catch one of the members in a fight, get emotional, and tell his story about them killing his clan and taking their eyes and then one of the troupe members may hear this story and tell and very different story from what kurapika thinks actually happened and some sort of plot twist will be introduced

[@natenatenate10]

@@jurhyify I doubt their words would affect him at all at this point--he's spent the latter half of his life brooding about his revenge mission. He became a Hunter to hunt down the Spiders. He crafted his Hatsu specifically to eradicate every Spider (with it being immeasurably more powerful when used against them). It would be very disappointing to both his character and the narrative if his resolve wavers due to some half-assed story.

[@zivan6179]

@@natenatenate10 I agree with you. Probably the spiders had some kinda reaspn to kill his clan but no matter what that reasin is. He will still kill them all.

[@vliints2677]

i mean hisoka isnt the god of death and kurapika isnt the angel of death for no reason

[@Unknownidk-l4n]

Love these videos man i appreciate the effort

[@seansilver8757]

This anime deserves this page. Thank you for your service 😂

[@ViewtifulBr080]

I love you narrative break downs over all videos on hunter x hunter content thanks.

[@jwinterspring]

I'm new here and only watched the anime. But, if Hisoka would like to kill the Spiders, would it be possible in the future that Hisoka and Kurapika team up to battle them?

[@SquiddyInvicta]

It seems you are severely misinterpreting the chrollo zoldyks fight. Chrollo was only pushed to the point of trying about halfway through the exchange. He was clearly just trying to feel out his new ability (the blanket) and felt confident enough to do so against 2 of the greatest fighters on the planet. On top of this, he is holding himself back and actively trying to steal either of their powers. That struck me as proof of Chrollo’s next-level nen genius and combat ability. Zeno’s lines all confirm it.

[@Popeyethesailorsman]

I think that the caveat that the bookstamp had that chrollo thought was a nuisance was that the ability users would have to be within a certain range or dead, this would make sense why theres certain inconsistencies like shalnarks ability being used like a phone and not a game device, and as to why there were so many gallery fake clones itd make alot of sense if chrollo changed their appearances with appearance swap and had them in the crowd using their abilities whenever hes not using them.

[@TTD97]

I think you downplay chrollos performance against the zoldycks. This does not in anyway helps the hisoka argument even tho you said it does. The fight was on the fly and chrollo had no prep and ig you can say he was pressured a lot in that fight but he still performed really well. For one it was 2v1 but this helps the argument that maybe chrollo didn’t cheat cause he had to fight Zeno while at the same time keep an eye out for Silva that may not sound like much my Silva and Zeno are power houses. To top it all off chrollo wasn’t even trying to kill them he was trying to steal their ability’s he most likely would have performed a lot better if he was trying to kill from the start. That’s why the Zeno mentioned if the fight went on like it did he would have won but if chrollo turned on the switch and tried to kill them he would have won. For 2 it’s implied Silva and chrollo fought before hence why Silva knows about chrollos stealing ability, this fight again could have been on the fly and it seemed like they may have stalemated each other. I think Silva may scale higher to hisoka since hisoka and illumi have kinda of a rivalry relationship and if he can stalemate Silva he could definitely win against hisoka or at the very least stalemate him in a on the fly fight just to get away and come up with a tactic to beat him. Lastly im mainly talking about pre death hisoka after death is completely different cause we don’t really know how strong he got but imo it’s substantial but at the end of the day it may not matter cause it’s all speculation chrollo could have even more abilities that were better then the ones he used against hisoka so at this point we just don’t know all I know is we need to see the fight happen again!

[@Voiydz]

hisoka would win in hand to hand fight based on the arm wrestle data from phantom troupe chrollo is actually weaker than hisoka and even machi beat him in arm wrestle but when it comes to agility i think chrollo is faster plus hisoka is more of a plan while fight not planning before a fight and bungee gum doesnt consume much aura only when be uses alot of seperate strands of it but due to post mortem nen he can use alot more bungee gum since be replaced his limbs and togashi comfirmed himself kurapika and the phantomn will eventually die he never said anything about hisoka dying and tbere is a theory hisoka disguised as illumi based off how he was talking in the manga and tbe cover if the volume has evidence illumi is acting different

[@Javetts]

I think you are forgetting that Chrollo's plan and his confidence in that plan was because of Neon's fortune telling ability. He was able to "test" multiple strategies until he had one he was going to win. That's probably why Chrollo saw Neon's hatsu was gone from his book. Hisoka killed her to remove that hatsu from the equation.

[@JLeviNow]

Chrollo has never been shown to give abilities back.

[@reggielovestoast5747]

can you do a video on the chrollo is disguised as hisoka theory? you do an amazing job at explaining this series

[@charlesbreeding9886]

Surtax Christmas Eve to you and yours too and happy birthday today and tomorrow morning and have been good to hear.

[@traevon.m.]

Great video, interesting take but you have to take into account that shizuku and benovalov is currently alongside chrollo as well. so it would hisoka vs chrollo AND them two..

[@XxaLexiiSsxX]

I would be livid too if i ask someone for a 1v1 and it turns into a 1v5-6-7-8-9-10 like lost respect for the spiders lol

[@bigknockersOO]

I like your videos because you do not show your face, not to say your face is not worthy of being shown, but it keeps me engaged with the clip art and chapter panels instead of seeing a person talking

[@moe4life21]

Your forgetting Krollo is on board a ship with the hiely crime family who are a print on demand ability shop

[@VanityZERO]

Lmao “Chrollo’s Blanket” 😂

[@eytbits]

Hisoka fanboys scraping the bottom of the barrell lmao. A lose is a lose. Hisoka didn't have a chance as chrollo stated from the start.

[@Shubham-hr5uw]

this all make sense, if the fight was- fight to death, then hisoka killing shalnark and kurtopi was also a part of game rules.

[@bradphillips3442]

I saw a theory that illumi helped too. One of those needles contolling the people looked like his

[@hicourtnei4769]

As much as I love Hisoka, I’m glad he lost the fight. There’s more to a fight than bungee gum....😂😂

[@mahmoudswairki7617]

Nah, Chrollo bodied the clown 🤡 fair and square.

[@dend1]

Nope, Cannot make up unproven exceptions such as Shalnark having a back up phone

[@ericcartman6667]

I don’t know chrollo hatsu is literally a book with dozens of stolen nen abilities. Hisoka pissed him off real bad so round 2 the gauntlets are coming off. Hisoka himself is more dangerous now considering his boost in post mortem nen. I could see this fight going in hisoka’s favor considering chrollo’s current state of mind.

[@Ra-ew1rj]

Chrollo mentioned he wanted to win with Style meaning he had more rough ways to win against hisoka

[@Ra-ew1rj]

He didn't need all them abilities he chose to win like that

[@timeread3099]

Ye he even said that matter of the he wins is even more important than the win itself. But round 2 if they do fight it's going to be dirty, a fully bloodlusted chrollo only going for the kill will be intresting.

[@kingsoindabuildin8036]

Awesome video , never even considered that my boy chrollo mightve cheated against my guy hisoka , doubt chrollo cheated but he's definitely weaker than hisoka in hand to hand

[@mrhiggs08]

Ayyyyy first

[@codeblueopinions2908]

Should do a covering how you think Hisokas backstory that was drawn by the Tokyo ghoul guy will tie into the story. Especially after the troupe just got their own backstory

[@killuazoldyck4742]

its not farfetched to say Chrollo can have an adult Gon moment if he sees all comrades dying. lol! that would be a wtf moment for me.

[@arcer4524]

I doubt Chrollo would be so adamant to go after Hisoka alone on the ship unless he is confident he has abilities that could end Hisoka.

[@Page_max]

Hisoka vs individual phantom troupe members. Hisoka vs phantom troupe members as their position in black whale.

[@DarkSkip]

You’re missing a huge point in this video. There’s never a 1v1 when it comes to fighting chrollo. If anything, hisoka is fighting the entirety of the troupe now. Chrollo didn’t show any signs of caring or blood lust with fighting hisoka. Now he actually wants to kill him with the full support of the troupe AND illumi. Hisoka doesn’t stand a chance in hell. There was never a 1v1 and there never will be a 1v1 so idk what the point of this video was besides the theory mentioned earlier on in the video.

[@apeesteranime2956]

Totally agree it’s most likely the fight won’t be a 1v1 but the answer to that fight is clear. So I did it assuming it’s a 1v1 because that’s a lot more interesting and a lot closer.

[@reymalone5666]

i agree hisoka never had a chance to begin with. hisoka's only powerful weapon against the troupe is his plot armor because he's important for gon's development and that's it. even if it's a 1 vs 1 match. chrollo might have more tricks up his sleeves. the troupe had planned on getting on the blackwhale so that gave chrollo time to prepare. i like hisoka but his chances of winning the fight was always based on favoritism

[@dontworryaboutit5490]

Do you think Asoka is just going to fight the troop all at once? Or do you think he’s going to take his time and pick them off, one by one? I could see it going either way. But the spiders are going to be almost destroyed,if not completely by the end

[@traviswilliams9225]

Chrollo had a book mark to help with using abilities from his book

[@optiplate457]

We can take on consideration the fact that Chrollo might also have used Lovely Ghostrighter to better his plan. Which he don't have now. Also he is not aware of hisoka's power boost (at least not to the full extend)

[@kenyimorris9151]

Chrollo wouldn’t be able to ise the puppets like in heaven’s arena because combat is prohibited on the Black whale full of military and powerful nen users. It’s also likely/possible that Chrollo had help because currently on the Black Whale he’s traveling with 2 other members instead of by himself.

[@MrDEMarq]

Hisoka will take out most of the Troop before his rematch with Chrollo. And when Hisoka wins, he'll toy with Chrollo until ether he's bored with him and tell him to get stronger or just kill him outright.

[@reichen609]

Holy crap! I can watch this all day in a loop together with HXH battle themes in the background!!!! Great analysis video of my MOST FAVORITE FIGHT SO FAR IN HXH! #KurapikaIllumiFan here #JustSubscribed today 2-16-23 @Apeester Hey man! May I ask who your Top 8 MOST Favorite HXH characters are, overall? (All arcs)

[@shielatv22]

........ Chrollo fighting 2 members of the Zoldick family and grandpa thinks Chrollo could win if he became serious, then Chrollo vs. Hisoka and he needs preparation and help from his members? Now that's insane. No wonder Hisoka is over estimating himself.

[@thommyzawa5186]

BIAS HISOKA FANGAY

[@josiahlikestodance]

Yo I’m rewatching this, and I know the theory in the beginning is to try to explain how Chrollo was able to do what he did. However, I think it would be harder to achieve it in this way. Because as far as we know once an ability has left his book then he no longer has access to it. Which would mean he’d have to regain that ability using the same restrictions he had to obtain it. Which requires the owner of that ability to explain their ability. Considering the intricate nature of black voice, I don’t think he would have been able to do that in this fight. At the very least, he wouldn’t have been able to do it for black voice. Although he could have given Kortopi back his power, but at that point he wouldn’t need to regain it as long as he just maintains black voice and order stamp active. But I also think it’s very possibly that Hisoka just misjudged Chrollo. Hisoka is very gifted at determining his opponents strength, but he also thought he could take Netero. I’m not comparing Chrollo to Netero, but that is to say that a really advanced nen user can hide their power level from even the more powerfully perceptive people.

[@mrhiggs08]

When I was reading. I thought to myself chrollo could not create all those copies and puppets under the rules he listed for those techniques…..

[@xKillerx92x]

When he mark a copy with sun and moon it don't disappear even if Chrollo deactivated Gallery fake so he was able to create more puppets but Hisoka only after realized it

[@Sesshomaru474]

Yea... Hisoka isn't stealing Chrollo's book, since its conjured he can get it back. Furthermore, since Hisoka touched it that means Chrollo completed 1 of the requirements to steal basically ALL of Hisoka's abilities. That means the Bungee Gum is guaranteed to be stolen, so Chrollo will steal a postmortem ability that is considered to be strong/difficult to counter. Because all that's left is to see the ability, which is Hisoka's signature move, and since Hisoka's body is made of it now. Just looking at Hisoka with gyo is enough to complete the task. Then all that's left is to have Hisoka answer his question before the hour finishes, all he would have to do is ask, "What are the properties of Bungee Gum?" Edit: Just realized, Hisoka would of already answered without being asked, but I'm sure there's alot of questions Hisoka would want to answer.

[@blxknxir]

What happened to your Chrollo analysis?

[@zamshawn16719]

even in hisoka's in his status when he was killed. he can squash Kuroro. Hisoko just agreed to kuroro's condition.

[@EldenBully]

well chrollo didnt cheat, but he literally had a year of preperation time to create the literal perfect conditions to fight hisoka. he created the moveset specifically to fuck up hisoka. and its not too far fetched since chrollo is smart af. hisoka went to kill kortopi and shalnark since two of the abbilities chrollo used, were theirs. also since hisoka knows, that skillhunter only works if the original owner of the skill is still alive. after his ''death'' he came to a revelation: hes not gonna let anyone choose when to fight him and how to fight him. so it makes sense that he instantly went after kortopi and shalnark to take away two of the skills that fucked him up. now hes the one who decides. also to me it doesnt seem like hisoka was mad after hed revived himself, the fat grin to me reveals more of a dirty smile like (ooooooooo i did it and youre done now im gonna fuck up all of you bigtime) he probably knows that his dirty plan worked and is disgustingly happy about it i honestly also think that chrollo doesnt stand a chance. i think that his bungeegum has a lot of more stretch now. it was 10m earlier now its going to be way way further. i think hes gonna manipulate atleast a big part of the ship to move quickly around.

[@Masculai1z]

The theory is baseless and silly

[@chrispeacock8085]

This theory is 100% true. Just wait and see

[@devynriley3759]

I don’t understand why people say that chrollo had help when his quite literal nen ability is to use others moves

[@zolp]

Bro, does the KZbin algorithm require videos to be 30 minutes now? Felt like I heard the same 5 minutes repeated 6 times in this video.

[@daphne5043]

This was an awesome video & your other videos are great too !! I wondered why he wanted to kill them all - like, "What did they do to him ?! He's not usually that type of guy - not the "slim waist" king😂 But, this theory makes so much sense - I didn't notice all of those factors together. I would be curious to see spider members vs. Hisoka analysis.

[@powertruth0776]

Is that the real reason he wiped both them out?? I always thought he wiped them out because Shalnark gave Corollo his nen ability… and the other guy was because he would be able to find Hisoka when he comes… I didn’t think of other spiders helping him through the whole fight.. b.I.t. I feel 1v1 Hisoka stomps now

[@haruplays2573]

All these analysis is funny. It all comes down to who has more plot armor between the two of them. For me knowing togashi he will give it to hisoka.. hisoka will be fighting gon.. but togashi can give it to chrollo and make gon avenge hisoka since gon also wanted to fight hisoka someday.

[@dontworryaboutit5490]

Plot armor has lost its meaning. Nothing can happen without people abusing the term

[@ozanahmetmutluay46]

I think there is a reason why chrollo chose shuzuki with him . with 3 vs 1 chrollo can win against Hisoka and chrollo knows this. And I believe our goth girl shuzuki will play an important key utility role.

[@mrt445]

Hisoka will lose if they fight again. You seem to think that he's ONLY fighting Chrollo.

[@birdz9252]

Chrollo's Death By Hisoka Is What Hunter x Hunter Has Left For Me. I Don't Think The Write Can Go Forever So Finish That.

[@official_simon_sabre7566]

I know how machi was involved in helping chrollo cheat. Hisoka during the heavens arena had both his arms and one leg removed and machi used her men string to patch him up. What if machi’s string was still attached to hisoka all this time. Which is why the leg and arm got removed because she probably decided to let go of her nen or use her nen to weaken the string. Hisoka probably realized this because it was to convenient so he didn’t want machi to patch him up anymore because she might do the same trick again. Because I find it to convenient that his leg got blown up but not other parts of his body. Edit : after some analyzing I realized that maybe chrollo used convert hand to switch places with machi. Machi disguised as chrollo would attack hisoka and would jump in and out and they would switch. During this time machi was disguised as chrollo, chrollo would use fake gallery and puppet stamp but I could be wrong.

[@xKillerx92x]

He lost only the arms in heavens arena and during this fight Hisoka lost one hand and a feet

[@official_simon_sabre7566]

@@xKillerx92x that could be true

[@gbemade]

I cant agree with this at all. 1. Zeno overall is much more impressive than hisoka. Netero thinks highly of Zeno but doesnt care about Hisoka at all. Zeno was also strong enough to get pitou excited. Chrollo being above zeno is much more impressive 2. No one in the troupe actually thinks hisoka can beat chrollo. U cant even say theyre biased with ppl like nobunaga 3. Hisoka didnt even change his mind about chrollo after the fight , in fact the fight reinforced what he already thought 4. Ur underestimating the knife and blanket and overestimating hisokas immunity to poison

[@dimogibrahim798]

anyway Bungee Gum has the properties of both rubber and gum

[@youtubedeletesmychannels2329]

Hisoka coming for everybody he wants the smoke. Chrollo is not safe especially when he’s depressed because 2 members are dead especially his longtime one shalnark

[@Timetiger]

Please make Outlaw Star content! Mostly kidding. Thats my favorite anime but its not relevant these days. Id actually love to see some content going over Demon Slayer. I know plenty of people have covered it, but maybe some what ifs on if certain Hashiras could have beaten certain Upper Moon Demons in a 1v1. Like if Akaza had run into The Stone Hashira instead of Rengoku at the end of the Mugen Train Arc.

[@JLeviNow]

So we just gonna forget about Chrollo's bookmark that allows him to use abilities on the page he placed it on even while the book is closed. He revealed this when revealed Sun and Moon Every move in this battle was explained. Plus Hisoka didn't want Machi's help cause he could repair his body himself with his postmortem nen. This theory falls apart pretty easily when you realize you left out important story points.

[@cristianrojas800]

Let me know everyone’s thoughts please but Who do you think Hisoka will kill from the Phantom Troupe next? Thinking realistically it’s going to be quite hard because some of them are together but so many things can happen and personally I think he’ll go after Bonolenov. Not really sure why it just seems right, and i also think it’ll be quite easy for him to take him out also but please let me know who is the next target?

[@laquanlucas6953]

I think it the girl with Glass from the troupe shukuzu I see her dying. How I think she might get separate all the chaos on the ship

[@mr-turtle-m8118]

Franklin is currently alone, and is pretty much just begging Hisoka to attack him first

[@vliints2677]

im confident that chrollo, bono, and shizu will indefinitely split up somehow because shizus fortune said beware solitude (being alone) in a room of black merchandise (kakin treasure), so maybe hisoka predicts they want the treasure and is lurking because he was "in" the troupe when they wanted the auction merchandise, maybe he predicts shizuku will use blinky to hold treasure as its stated that blinky can infinitely suck up non nen/ non living things. I think we might get a flashback on the fortunes that were half read/unread and that might be the cherry on top for shizukus death flags, or he is stalking machi/franklin since they are alone

[@legendxch]

well you never know how many tools chrollos has in his books. the author can always make up things to favor either contender. Hisoka has gotten stronger with his regeneration ability and stronger aura, and there may be something more. But CHrollo would have known hisoka got stronger because I am sure Machi would have told chrollo what she saw about hisoka when she learned other two troop members were killed. even knowing that, chrollo is still confident enough saying he intends to kill him. If chrollo could hold a stalemate with 2 zodyck elites, there is no reason he couldn't handle 1 hisoka. If he couldn't then I gonna stop watching. lol Cuz it doesn't make sense. Zeno is on the level or close to netero. The character of Chrollo in the manga is a symbol that embodies Lucifer. He is not like Meruem who has to die because if the king continue to exist, Hunters manga has to end. And the character of Hisoka is portraited as a lusty genius clown. THink about that, if the author let the clown win, it would lose its style.. I'm just saying. It will be a harder fight, but chrollo will prevail.

[@mr-turtle-m8118]

Where's the evidence that Hisoka gained more power from his use of post mortem nen?

[@legendxch]

@@mr-turtle-m8118 well... that's a general assumption since he couldn't regenerate his limbs before. but if he can't pose a bigger threat to chrollo what is the point to fight against all of the members. I am just thinking from the authors standpoint.

[@mr-turtle-m8118]

@@legendxch I think the only reason he previously didn't regenerate his limbs in the Kastro fight was because he didn't need to; since his arm wasn't completely exploded and he had Machi to reattatch it when nen threads. Now he doesn't have Machi so he's forced to adapt with his nen. Also Hisoka definitely stands a threat to Chrollo, only reason he got stomped was because of Chrollo's masterful prep, in a sudden confrontation, it's a much more unpredictable fight. So naratively he still stands a threat in my eyes even without post mortem nen boost

[@dontworryaboutit5490]

@@mr-turtle-m8118 common sense? Post Mortem nen Is stronger.

[@mr-turtle-m8118]

Yes it is, WHEN it occurs and only during the duration of it's existence. Hisoka imbued his nen with a command to pump his lungs and heart after his death, that itself was a good example of powerful post mortem nen. But Post-Mortem nen is something that exists outside of someone, it's someone's ghostly nen which only has power after their passing. Hisoka didn't gain a boost in power from post mortem nen because he's still alive and it just doesn't apply to living beings. Were this the case, then Camila would have so many post-mortem nen boosts that she'd be able to solo anyone on the ship even without her ability.

[@oscarjihadhoussin]

I think Feitan alone can take Hisoka with his special ability Pain Packer.

[@vliints2677]

he gonna sink the black whale if he picks rising sun

[@nothinginparticular6419]

Honestly I don't think Kurapika will be the one to end Chrollo. I think Hisoka will do it and Kura will end Tserriednich

[@baeonettta]

Anyone who says chrollo would've lost 1v1 and that he cheated is coping hard

[@vliixes244]

It's funny to see Hisoka fanboys theorize absurd things to keep Hisoka the best of the best. obviously he's not. 😂

[@levynetoto]

i think hisoka is superior in hand to hand combat, otherwise Chrollo should not need any complex strategies~

[@derunjoosefu5857]

That means that which ever way you look at it. If you believe he had the troops help or if he did all of it by himself. Chrollo couldn’t have defeated Hisoka if Hisoka had just pulled up on him without Chrollo’s prep time. That means Chrollo would have lost if they had fight in the York new city arc. Because, 1 Chrollo didn’t prep and he might not have had his bookmark at that time. So the fight would have favored Hisoka more. So technically speaking Hisoka was the strongest member and now on top of that he has a nen after death boost. Ohhhh I think it’s GGs for the troops at this point. But we just have to wait and see.

[@Bandit.Chrollo]

Bruh. The hard downplay right there huh? "Chrollo kinda got beated with Silva and Zeno"? Both Zeno and Silva literally said that they risks their lifes by fighting Chrollo. All 3 was in a dangerous spot. Also, Chrollo defended a punch from Silva, the same Silva who one shoted Cheetu, trained commander by Pitou and Youpi. Yes. Hisoka have gratear physical strengh than Chrollo, without to apply the nen aura. Once the nen aura is on, their strengh doesn't matter much. Hisoka can simply land the most powerful punch he can with all his aura and did 0 damage to Chrollo. Hisoka is nowhere close to Silva so. If you ever think he is, that's just delusionality. Silva and Zeno both are considered the strongest assassins in the entire world. Hisoka stand no chance. But, Chrollo do. And yes, this aspects counts, how can you say it doesn't count? Another point : The theory on "Chrollo cheated" is so much more theoretisized :)) Like, out of the hand. IF Chrollo needed help to kill Hisoka, then maybe you can respond to my question : Why Chrollo explained every single ability he will use? Who, before a fight where he need help from more people, stops and start to explain their abilities, detailed? And also, IF Chrollo needed that much of a help from others to fight Hisoka, WHY Chrollo went absolutely single to find Hisoka? Yes, he went in the final with Shizuku and Bonolenov, bcs they asked for it. Chrollo was about to go ABSOLUTELY alone to find Hisoka. The theory of Chrollo having help from others is kinda sad for Hisoka's overrating fans. That makes less sense, as MANY more aspect comes in debate. Chrollo also said that, at the begging of their fight, he will give the fight that Hisoka want, aka MIND BATTLE. It looks more like, Chrollo prepared himself to fight the way Hisoka will love to. Hisoka himself said that, Chrollo want to make the battle longer. MEANING that, Chrollo could also make the fight ending faster. And I clearly see this possible, as just teleporting Hisoka at the death point and one shot him with a knife. People should stop overrating Hisoka THAT much, in the end, he didn't even touch directly Chrollo, not even once. The only one attack he could land, was a indirect one from a double trap. For me, it's more likely that, Hisoka realised something more deeper, than believing killing all members will result in a easier 1vs1 battle. Hisoka isn't an idiot, he most likely realised that, he need to attack Chrollo in a different way, than in a 1vs1, face to face, battle. And how can you attack deeper Chrollo, if as we saw, he didn't care much when he got captured by Kurapika? Clearly, making the spider dissapearing. Also, don't take in perfect consideration everything Hisoka affirm. He was also wishing a fight with Netero. Be serious for a second.

[@sophiemendez5567]

It would be a draw if on the boat, hisoka will win if on the continent.