The Ultimate Urban Rifle ($5,000 Budget!)

[@JamesReeves]

Thanks for coming on this larp with me, everyone. I'm seeing some really compelling points in the comments, mainly about: 1) The realistic SHTF scenario for most of us being down the hallway and thus shorter barrels and .300 Blackout are a better option. It's difficult to argue with this logic. 2) Related to 1) above, no need for an LPVO, just spend $300-$500 on a reflex optic and call it a day. I agree with this as well. I think I'll stick with the LPVO but if I were on a tighter budget, I'd probably get an EOTech or AimPoint PRO w/QRP and go. 3) "$5,000!!!!!!" Haha, I'm with you on that, you cheap bastard. Realistically, as I mentioned in this video, if you save a few dollars on the optic, getting a DD upper and a less expensive lower, and perhaps a less expensive suppressor, and you'll probably get basically this setup at half cost, street price. I'm really enjoying this video series because of these conversations. I'm not a cop or an operator, but I have had the privilege of working with many of them on TFBTV over the years, and they all have varying theories as well, which I will present. I love making these types of videos so I'll work on getting Ep. 3 going in the next few months. I spent a whole year making this video and thrashing this DD, so I don't want to rush anything. BOLO for hot wine mommies and turbo hoboes- James

[@richcurren6888]

I just watched the video … but are people not calling out “optisitic” for the genius it is? Disappointing if true.

[@chriscarnes87]

As long as you get a good forged bolt, carrier and barrel you’re good to go, everything else can be cheap.

[@jono7626]

It's hard to just have just 1 set up for everything. I prefer my spikes tactical, 11.5" cold hammer forged barrel with a flash can on the end to blow tge sound out and away. Chances are you won't have ear plugs. That is my home defense next to my sig tacops 1911 carry threaded. Outside of the home is my 16" spikes midlength with a whiskey 3 4x12x50 (my eyes aren't that sharp anymore as I get older) and if I am really gonna reach out I have my 20" rifle length (as stoner intended) Aero precision.

[@ECTT1776]

Sure are a lot of ppl jumping on the “SHTF scenario” these days…almost as if ppl realize this world’s gone to complete shit.

[@EyeEyeFerny]

James, can you email us the silencer specs so you don’t piss KZbin off? Or post to Sub Star?

[@Centipede_Solaire]

As someone who grew up with two lawyers for parents, your sense of humor is relatable. Between you and Hop there's never a bad upload to TFBTV. Cheers James. And watch out for those turbo hobos

[@tfbtv]

I'm always on the lookout for the THs

[@user-jv4ic8rh4d]

​@@tfbtvwhen is anyone going to focus on the best rural defense rifle? Idk about you, but if ish goes south I'm not running towards the city. Kinda getting AWAY from urban environment.

[@J.Young808]

@@user-jv4ic8rh4d16”-18” barrel or 308 AR would be good for more of a Ranch Rifle or any .44mag or larger lever action.

[@Jacob-zv7xw]

⁠@@user-jv4ic8rh4dI live in the middle of suburbs surrounded by cities so I gotta know how to fight my way out 😂

[@Sig_P229]

I am on vacation on the east coast. Wow is it easy watching these at 9am instead of 6am

[@Deli_Jelly]

Yk you could just wait

[@Sig_P229]

@@Deli_JellyNow you’re just making sense. We will have none of that here, please.

[@JusufBideovic]

Watching them at 3pm is even nicer, greetings from europe :D

[@bradleymckinney6825]

Eastern time has its perks.

[@DanDannyDanielleBob]

User name checks out

[@wyatt7426]

>urban rifle >not a bullpup james its actually okay to make another video about your AUG. nobody will mind

[@breckfreeride]

Tavor ftw... 7 even better

[@birgrim]

Exactly, talking about barrel length and fps but we aren't talking about bullpups. I can go through a standard size doorway with my 18.5' X95 sideways. Try that with your 16' AR. ;)

[@Austinomon]

Bro thank God for this comment I just posted "why not an Aug or tavor?"

[@doejohn8674]

Yep, IDF ordered a bunch of micro Tavors for the infantry, I guess they know first hand what an urban rifle should be (when it's in 5.56)

[@jason200912]

Hellion is better since the Aug looks like a disgusting paintball gun

[@stevestrawmatt4738]

I went the BCM route with a 14.5 pinned and welded upper, a exps-2 optic, cloud defense light and Surefire SOCOM Mini and have a Geissele trigger. A bit cheaper but performance for the dollar I found i can’t beat BCM

[@tfbtv]

Nicely done. Not even sure Hop could find something wrong with that.

[@Nukarilla]

This is the way

[@DeltaSierra0605]

​@@tfbtvHe would complain about battery life on the EoTech and that Geissele is expensive

[@geraldholt2755]

​@@tfbtvYou underestimate his power.

[@03Grunt-arrino]

Our rifles are strikingly similar haha.

[@lmassey1984]

TFB has also been one of my favorite channels, and over the past year or so, it moved to number 1. Consistent content, funny commentary, and a love the 2nd Amendment, without the extra theatrics.

[@JimmySilverFoot]

You definitely have to be careful around the I-10 overpass. The turbo hobos are a real threat.

[@jmartinez1249]

The tent city under the Crescent City Connection between Camp and Magazine streets is kinda sketchy too...

[@tfbtv]

Oh yeah Sherwood Forest over there

[@michaelsmith4325]

@@edm192better than communism and socialism ever have even those homeless people still have rights and at least we’re able to work if we do choose to get anything and everything we want but i guess you’d rather everyone starve and rub dirt in their wounds since it’s fair right? Classic victim mentality your not doing to well because of everyone but yourself right? Those evil rich people employing the masses how disgusting of them to let regular everyday people be able to work 9-5 jobs without having to risk any of their money and be able to afford the necessities smh what scum everyone without money sure does hate the rich all while praising people who speak against them like the liberal Nancy Pelosi who’s somehow been able to beat all the top hedge funds s&p 500 year in and out averaging 20% of returns and having millions and millions of dollars from insider trading off a salary she couldn’t have possibly earned that amount from without having inside information what a shocker the ones who point the fingers and prosecute everyone else turn out to be the criminals…open your eyes and take a look Ik all that went over your head but at least i tried

[@jonkR96]

⁠​⁠@@edm192 Under communism all of us would be under that overpass.

[@f5tornadeau]

@@jonkR96”that’s a good thing.” Bernie Sanders

[@patricodonnell5406]

Yeah, based on your previous videos on Daniel Defense ARs (specifically the light weight), I dove in and got myself a DDM4 SLW. Just recently took it to a course at Battle Springs Ranch and it ran flawlessly. Thank you so much for your videos. I look forward for future installments on this series!

[@thelocalpizzaguy2180]

I did a rifle build VERY similar to yours last year with several differences… It’s my favorite thing ever: -Geissele Super Duty Rifle, OD Green 16” (comes with DD barrel, surefire flash hider, and Geissele trigger out of the box). -Trijicon ACOG TA31 4x32mm -Surefire SOCOM556-RC2 Supressor -Surefire scout light w/ Haley Strategic mount

[@forgerat]

You built a better rifle

[@candyman__87]

Very similar to my build except I went T2 + magnifier over LPVO. Very happy with my DDM4V7!

[@JoshuaADemic]

1) Trijicon Credo HX 1-8 FFP 2) HRT AWLS light 3) Blue Force sling 4) POF 2-stage drop-in trigger 5) No complaints about the weapon itself or the suppressor. I'm personally a fan of quad rails, but if we're "forced" into M-Lok rails, DD's are the best.

[@brighthought11]

DD's are definitely some of the best, also KAC, LWRC, SLR, Noveske!

[@sd04dave1]

Great review. Love the breakdown on why each component was chosen, pros and cons, excetera. Keep doing what you're doing

[@glockparaastra]

I get 1/2 to 1/4 MOA out of my Colt M4 16”. Hand loads: 75gr HPBT with Viht N140. LPVO 1.5-4X

[@matthewbeaver5026]

What projectiles. I can only find serria in 69g or 77g.

[@glockparaastra]

@@matthewbeaver5026 Hornady 75gr BTHP Match. I bought many long ago. ELDM should work well too. 77gr Nosler Custom Comp work very well too with N140. I have 1in7 twist

[@matthewbeaver5026]

@@glockparaastra good to know. Mines 1:7 also. Though I haven't loaded anything other than serria's. With cfe223 and a handful with 2520. Liked the cfe load. The 2520 I actually got for 6.5Grendel and 308. Didn't care for the groupings in 223

[@glockparaastra]

@@matthewbeaver5026 CFE223 is difficult to find here in South Africa. I've been wanting to test it in my Grendel bolt action 20". I would love a Grendel or 6ARC AR with 20" barrel

[@northwards2218]

Love the build and the presentation. Keep up the great work.

[@tfbtv]

Thank you.

[@brianleverich4467]

1500.00 rifle with sling , bipod, light , sights, 1-8 variable,cleaning kit,ifak,lot’s of mags , a way to carry all that and the rest of your money on ammo and learn it

[@tfbtv]

Bear Creek Arsenal in the house

[@KPHVAC]

I went with a Geissele Super Duty 14.5 for $2,100 at Sportsman's Warehouse. The trigger is perfect and the only thing that I changed immediately was a new grip. The build quality is fantastic and it's been flawless with over 1,000 rounds.

[@opppopp2322]

i like that choice dude!

[@03Grunt-arrino]

Well done.

[@AFChase]

Geissele's are dope. Have a SD upper and love it.

[@JR15A2]

Geissele is > Daniel Defense. You chose well.

[@Josephamac]

I have the 16”. But I’m trying to figure out what suppressed build I want (barrel length)

[@armstrong2052]

As the current owner of 3 DD rifles and a 4th I gave to my dad. DD makes great guns imo

[@Nick-hm9rh]

At their price they better lol.

[@armstrong2052]

@hikeskool I would agree, especially if you are left-handed. I'm not so concerned with parts compatibility as others are. And for that type of rifle, I'd recommend looking at lwrci they are my favorite "advanced" firearms. As far as money goes, it's the piece of mind more than anything for me.

[@armstrong2052]

@Nick-hm9rh agreed I'd pay a couple hundred more for an ambi lower. I hate that the r3 is a government profile barrel, though. I definitely want the bolt catch on the right. I would feel disadvantaged without it.

[@raifsevrence]

@@hikeskool They're good rifles. If you want comparable quality at a slightly lower price, you could look at LWRC's IC DI. I don't believe there is any difference in quality, but there is definitely a difference in the rifles. The downside for some is going to be the more proprietary nature of LWRC's.

[@connorcook5769]

I’m using an Aero M4E1 right now configured with this urban rifle concept (Vortex LPVO, Streamlight, Rise Armament Trigger, BFG Vickers sling) and I couldn’t be happier with it. I plan on upgrading to a DDM4V7 someday but it’s not in the cards for me yet. Great video, keep up the good work 👍!

[@matt291]

I ran my Aero at Urban Rifle last year. I absolutely love that gun. The only issue I had was it got so cold the oil froze in my rifle. That day had a high of 15 degrees on the range. Holy F that was cold for this beach bum.

[@Xennial-en6kb]

I went the KAC 14.5” route pinned & welded, Elcan Specter 1,4x, Surefire light and Sandman K can. Lots of excellent AR choices these days

[@marvinmartiani1337]

I know you'll say time coast money but doing more actual "building" and less "picking" an already built rifle and accessories would save hundreds on the rifle alone. Even just building out a lower with the parts you replaced on the DD would save a lot(DD has stripped uppers and lowers btw). After a quick bit of shopping one could buy all the parts from the DDv7(exactly the same parts from dd) that were not replaced in this build and you would only have to install a safety(you replaced the grip anyways), screw in the buffer tube and stake a castle nut. I don't know about you James but my time is DEFINITLY worth ~900 an hour. End of scizo rant, thanks for all the awesome videos and the short shorts.

[@tfbtv]

Thanks for the comment. Great point.

[@levimeyer6126]

Yup, a DD or BCM upper on a stripped Aero lower with your own parts will perform identically with significant cost savings.

[@thecajunvacationer3064]

Louisiana Cajun native here, (literally a Thibodeaux) and that I-10 turbo hobo bit me in the feels! Good stuff!

[@iornlint]

On charging handles, I broke a radian SD charging handle at the stem where it fits over the carrier key. This was in normal dry fire drills. Be careful of industry hype, no company is perfect (and radians warrenty covered me)

[@rawkemsawkem3328]

I had the exact same failure with under 100 rnds... but they did send me a new one without issue...

[@tfbtv]

Wow. Very interesting. DD's CH is very beefy but simple. Maybe I just won't mess with it.

[@raifsevrence]

I'm not a huge fan of mine vs the Raptor, but the FCD ACH is an option. It has gas reducing features and is pretty robust.

[@matthewriegner5180]

Guy I know uses a dab of silicone on the top of the handle to seal up the back of the receiver and ch to prevent gas coming out there. He swears by it. I can't vouch one way or another, but it should work if done right. It's like the ear pro for receiver wobble. Not sure if it needs to be redone at some point or not

[@tomharper8351]

I went with the KAC SR15 14.5” p&w on a Radian ADAC lower. Kahles k18i lpvo/t2@noon(for nods), fp peq15 & modlight. HX-QD 556ti suppressor & Vicker’s blue sling. Once my SBR gets approved(165 f-ing days simple form 1) my SR30 with a GBRS Hydra mount & a t2 & LA5 on the diving board. Sig SLX762C suppressor, Modlight & Sly Tactical sling. 300blk will be by my bed next to my suppressed USP .45 tac for home defense.

[@unclefreedom213]

Its so hard to beat a Larue trigger, Ive replaced all but 4 of my triggers with the Larue MBT-2S the exceptions are my Patrol Rifle w/LE145, BCM 14.5/SSA-E, Geissele super w/ S3G and one 20inch A4 /RA140. 12 other ARs from 6arc to 5.56 10.3 to 18inch all with Larue MBT-2S

[@jason200912]

My Hyperfire trigger is better but the tradeoff is double the cost

[@raifsevrence]

You can't beat the MBT2-S for the price. Extra points since it comes with 2 springs to fit user preference/use case.

[@warrenharrison9490]

How much do you enjoy the A4?

[@almaadams3631]

Uncfree: I am addicted to the S3G; any of the triggers you mentioned better( or equal?)

[@unclefreedom213]

@@almaadams3631 The Larue is just too good S7 tool steel one of the best 2 stage on the market for a one stage Larue has those as well I believe MBT-1S but that LE145 is super crisp and won't break the bank but it's not as clean as the S3G

[@andrewpeterson549]

Again GEISSELE!!! The one rifle that you don’t ever have to change anything comes with the very best of everything from the get go the very best internals, the very best trigger best of everything just add your accoutrements and feed her

[@JoMammaSmurf]

I personally run a SOLGW 13.7" with pined and welded NOX muzzle device, Dead Air sandman suppressor. Furniture: B5 Systems Grip and stock and a BCM gunfighter hand stop, Blue force gear sling. Light system: Arisaka 18650 light with a Malkoff head, SSM mount with a Surefire UE-SR7 pressure pad. Optic is a Vortex Strike Eagle 1x6 LPVO. I absolutely love it.

[@texasranger24]

Daniel Defense is a solid rifle. So is the light. But i would've gone with an OSS (HUXWRX, whatever) can, the Flow556k. And Aimpoint+magnifier, EOTech+5x magnifier, Prism+red dot or LPVO+red dot is really a question of personal preference and mission set.

[@tfbtv]

Flow556k is great but you are married to their muzzle device if you go there.

[@breckfreeride]

Love my flow 556 k. Poi shift is negligible. Got the muzzle devices... Married with children now. Not the quietest but gas in the face is a non issue.

[@bryanduchane2371]

@tfbtv Are you sure about that?? I thought Q was making a device that worked with OSS, whatever the hell they renamed their company, & a can be used with numerous other cans that have the "Standard" mounting system...

[@tfbtv]

Pretty sure but not positive. I have the Flow556k but that’s one thing I hate about it. Otherwise it’s phenomenal if you don’t prefer lightweight.

[@Fadaar]

my first AR i got in 2011 is a DD M4V4 which they don't make anymore. 9" quad rail, plenty of room for activities but not as obscenely heavy as a full length handguard.

[@greencreekranch]

Brassfacts "urban is not cqb" video has changed my perspective on this so much. Once you realize it, it's painfully obvious, but somehow we (atleast many of us) assume fighting in cities means fighting in buildings

[@jason200912]

Urban just means it needs to be able to reach 200 yards without wasting too many shots. So pistol ar and ak is very good for that.

[@Enjoyer.762]

Good luck with the larp. Most urban areas, even in gun-friendly states aren't gun friendly. PD is anti2A, the local city govt is anti2A, the prosecutors are anti2A. You larpers didn't learn from the 2020 BLM riots. Otherwise, law-abiding people were politically prosecuted for defending themselves against the Democrat party's violent urban lumpenproletariat. Limit the times you spend in urban areas or better yet avoid them.

[@velocitydreamer]

If not a self-built, and I know you're not big on self-builts, I'd have recommended the ADM UIC MOD2. P&W 13.9 Criterion & one of the (if not the) best Ambi setups w/ top of the line build quality and mlok all around to avoid adapters for lights, etc. A daaaaamn good rifle!

[@daniellemke4024]

Set your zero for the drop with the suppressor. when shooting un-suppressed you should know your shift. change it then. I keep a card with my rifle for the shift so I remember. Also a paint dot on the elevation turret will help with that. If you look at other optics manufactures, there are solutions for this issue. Take a look at the kahles 1-8 with the Helia system.

[@tfbtv]

I’d rather just not have a suppressor with a 3MOA shift

[@METALLIFY16]

Or you can just get an RC2 with zero POI shift🤷

[@Pew7070]

I agree. 16’ 556 outdoors, 9.5’ 300BO CQB.

[@buckwildsrq]

I haven't shot that suppressor, but I did hold it in my hand at my local shop, and it is extremely heavy. It's probably the heaviest suppressor in its class.

[@danmerhalski]

Great confirmation of DD - I’ve decided on the DD4v7 as well. Thank you for verifying that this is the right choice👍🏻

[@johnsanko4136]

Good timing on this video. I've been looking for ideas to build a modern fighting rifle instead of another cold war carry handle vibe gun.

[@renegadearms]

Excellent setup, I built an excellent “ultimate gun”, it turned out really good and way cheaper than if I would have purchased the complete gun.

[@michaelnolan6054]

Downside - it must be lubed with truffle oil.

[@everybodysmile6506]

For my urban route went with: ddm4v7p (the shorty) Aimpoint PRO Cloud defensive REIN micro w/ CD pushpad Deadair Sandman Long story short there is more than one right answer, get what works best for you. Love the video.

[@Dumb_User_Name]

This video is perfect timing for me

[@dakotahayden6937]

BCM stripped upper and BCG with Criterion 13.9 and Midwest linear comp pinned/welded. Mated to an LMT Defender stripped lower with Larue MBT (agree, these can't be beat) and B5 Systems furniture. EOTech EXPS 2 optic with Streamlight. Love the way this setup shoots.

[@flyboy8752]

Off topic, but I caught that one-handed (left handed) carbine manipulation at 3:08 (nice!) and noticed you used the index finger for safety manipulation. I’ve not done a whole lot of left-handed carbine, but when I do, it’s usually with an ambi safety, but now you’ve got me curious: Pros and cons for index finger versus thumb for running left-handed without an ambi safety?

[@constitutionalrepublican1611]

better control under stress

[@tfbtv]

I was just making shit up as I went because Clint was like “ok shoot that man sized target at 100 yards without using your right hand.”

[@jason200912]

Just buy a $20 ambi safety.

[@brandonh4527]

I like this concept. My go to rifle is approximately that. Tavor X95 (5.56 16"), Razor Gen III 1-10, Spuhr mount, Surefire Scout, and a TAB Gear PRS sling (because that's what I had laying around). I have been considering a Blue Force Gear sling for a while though. the PRS sling is not necessarily built for that type of rifle. Sure you may be shooting a lot of closer range stuff where a red dot would be just fine. Some things to consider though about a LPVO over a red dot: 1) The LPVO even if your battery dies, you still have an etched reticle 2) It is still just as fast as a red dot 3) It can be used for more precision work if needed 4) You can stretch your rifle out to longer ranges more effectively 5) You can see your target better and get more reliable positive ID's on targets (probably the most important) You could negate the first 4 reasons, but the 5th reason is still king and worth any potential negative. As most know, you are responsible for the rounds you fire and you will have to answer for them and your actions.

[@12vscience]

How is the accuracy of your X95? I have heard 2-3.5 MOA.

[@brandonh4527]

@@12vscience I would say it’s about 2-3 MOA with standard quality 55gr. I’ve been told if you step up the grain weight and get match grade ammo you can expect 1-2 MOA. I haven’t tried that yet though. I’ve also been told getting a more free floated handguard helps too. Im going to try the blklbl and see how that goes

[@Opossum_Wizard]

With a DDM4V7 I went with the Magpul furniture and Geisselle trigger as well. Though I opted for the Surefire SOCOM .30 Cal suppressor. (She's a musket I know) And currently running a Vortex Huey + magnifier combo, though I'm considering a swap to an lpvo.

[@TheAnnoyingBoss]

George washington liked a nice musket.

[@alexanderschooler579]

DD was my first gun and will always have a soft spot. I LOVE that deep woods green color. For me - I’m rounding out a setup that fits this category. 14.5 URGI Upper from Geiselle (1k on sale) Surefire Socom RC2 (1200) Mix parts lower with an ALG trigger, ergo grip and b5 stock $350 Modlite with mod button (500) Razor 1-6/Badger mount GBRS SBS

[@glockparaastra]

Great looking setup you have there!

[@tfbtv]

It’s the magazine

[@762x69]

@@tfbtvi can't stop laughing every time I see the mag and wonder if I could ever muster the stones to ask someone to make that for my ugly mug 😂

[@jordanragin1615]

PSA Sabre, a Primary Arms 1-6x, AB Suppressors Warthog 5.56, Surefire scout pro, ANR Design link sling

[@mantisman5546]

I run a suppressed mk-18. I live down in FL so the odds of me finding a need to shoot past 300 is almost 0.

[@heatheruntz5315]

But if you need to you can shoot out to 500 with the mk18 even though it has a short barrel it is very capable.

[@Enjoyer.762]

As civilians, the odds of us ever having to shoot past 50 yards is almost 0.

[@at5mics]

I built mine about 18 months ago. A .308 SLR b30 receiver set, 11.5" Odin works barrel, credo hx 1-6, cryptic coatings bcg, yhm r2 can, Reardon mount hardware, hydraulic buffer, jp tuned spring. Recently switched out my old RA trigger to a newer RA-535. This thing is fast, accurate, and butter smooth. A little over 1" @ 100yds with 110g underwood. It's the only rifle I own but I may build a 300bo, not sure. I live in C. Florida. I've taken it out to 300 yards and it didn't break a sweat. Won't need more than that living here. Once I got my dope, it was a tackdriver.

[@ethan5.56]

Love my BCM charging handles and been thinking about trying a larue trigger for a while. Currently have BCM PNT triggers in all my rifles

[@tfbtv]

Give MBT2S a shot

[@ethan5.56]

@@tfbtv gonna have to. I've heard nothing but good things about it from a lot of reputable reviewers

[@bryanduchane2371]

They are the only triggers I use. Have one Geisle and numerous LaRue triggers. Have had a number of good shooters try a number of rifles and asked them which has the best trigger. I've got two answers from all the guys I've done this with. 1) They are all the same or 2) Select the Larue in my softest shooting AR......

[@jason200912]

Its only 90 bucks. REMEMBER TO BUY A GRIP SCREW ADJUSTABLE TRIGGER screw otherwise the LaRue will feel like a floppy piece of junk. The set screw will remove nearly all of the take-up of the first stage.

[@ethan5.56]

@@jason200912 noted. I'm pretty sure I already have some laying around somewhere. Thanks for the heads up

[@russellingaroundoutdoors]

This solidified my new AR build! Really appreciate the attention to details and setup options!

[@toddburks9182]

Most combat engagements are less than 300 yards. Would like to compare drop and grouping between your setup and a comparable 300 blackout.

[@sending_pills]

300blk 110gr supersonic drops two to three feet at 300 yards depending on zero distance and barrel length.

[@tfbtv]

According to a recent very reliable source I spoke with in person a few weeks ago, the number's like 75 yards on average.

[@Enjoyer.762]

Police gunfights are rarely past 25 meters. Most civilian defensive shootings are less than that. I get that gun owners want to have fun larping with urban RECCE rigs at the range wasting more money than necessary on what should be a basic home defense build (basic mid-tier AR15 carbine, decent red dot, or holographic sight, a quality white light, BUIS, and quality LE grade defensive ammunition). If you want to go the NFA SBR and suppressor route, ok fine. Even if you were 100% legal in your defense shooting (say castle doctrine situation), cops will still confiscate your rifle, and even if you're lucky to not have an anti2A prosecutor looking to boost their political career at your expense with a politically driven "criminal" prosecution, you will probably have to sue to get your AR15 returned or compensated a with payout. It doesn't make sense to use one's most Gucci AR as their real "go-to" rifle. I think as civilians we really to focus on what matters based on the higher probable threats - a defensive shooting out of the home. "Truck guns" are another larp. Most of us aren't going to be carrying a loaded AR15 in our vehicles. Most states do not allow civilians to have loaded long guns in their vehicles even in less restrictive states. With ATF regs reclassifying pistol braces as "SBRs", that's another legal can of worms. Real-world most of us will be carrying our EDC pistol, a spare magazine or two, OC spray, defensive knife, and maybe some basic medical kit. We need to stop the larping and refocus on what matters which is spending more time training with our actual EDC kit.

[@jpmriccardi]

Oh man, the obsession over rifle triggers! Has the industry ever seen you good folks coming! Good luck, everybody

[@kevindam1946]

I’m surprised you never talked about bullpups. A bullpup is IMO the ideal urban rifle (as you know: many of the world’s militaries agree). With my RDB, I get a full length 17.3” barrel in a package that is shorter than a 10.5” AR15 SBR without a tax stamp. With a K can on it, it’s about as long as a 12.5” unsuppressed AR. It’s not just compactness either, you also get a huge advantage in *balance* with a bullpup. With a bullpup the center of gravity is right around where your trigger hand is, so it’s super maneuverable in indoor CQB situations and just feels great to handle. I can even shoot mine one-handed no problem. Plus you get that higher velocity and lower report from the full length barrel for longer engagements.

[@claytondennis8034]

If you're going to own more than 1 AR rifles, I would argue that your 2nd should be a lower that you trick out with your absolute favorite components (go crazy... ambi controls, ridiculously great trigger, etc.), then build out uppers/optics to swap around for different use cases.

[@bfish9700]

I'd probably have done this completely different. 11.5 or 12.5 barrel and a 1x sight with magnifier. I do like the idea of 30 cal can but might have gone with like a resonator k for this purpose.

[@ridered55x84]

I completely agree. A 12.5 with the resonator k and Kurz kit is the same length as the 16” rifle and flash hider. Plus it sounds great for the size it is

[@tfbtv]

I’m curious to know if the NFA didn’t exist, how many 12.5s would sell versus 16

[@Gojeto346]

@@tfbtvso many, I just went with a 14.5 “pin and weld so I didn’t have to do any other bullshit but could still have a bit of a shorter lighter rifle, but ideally I wanted a 12.5”

[@nicholascheadle]

​@@tfbtv Just a theory, but since men in America are now weaker and IQ average an all time low, 7.5" would likely outsell them all.

[@sde9023]

@@tfbtv I roll with 12.5's. Throw a suppressor on them and they are sweet little pieces of awesomeness. If not, I use an EFAB muzzlebreak and you have a nice compact platform.

[@frankensteinfirearms]

I’ve got two setups DD MK18 Risll (factory “pistol”) now form 1 SBR, Holosun 510c with 3x magnifier, Gemtech Trek II direct thread 5.56 can, DD trigger Streamlite Protac light Second set up DD M4A1 Ris ll, Vortex Diamondback tactical 4-12 with an offset set of iron sights and a Holosun 507C, stream light Protac light, YHM turbo K suppressor, B5 stock, Magpul K2plus grip on both rifles MK18 is my home defense rifle (it’s saved my life twice) M4A1 is my general purpose rifle (it’s killed a lot of hogs here in Texas)

[@DutchK75]

The Mk2 improvements that BCM has done, is better than anything DD has going on. Their Mk2 A5 buffer system is better than a carbine setup. And their Mk2 upper is a vast improvement over stock M4 upper. Thicker webbing reduces reciever twisting. Bolts will last a lot longer. And no added weight. So you don't need to go the LMT, KAC route. And spend a plethora of money on Gucci proprietary stuff.

[@tfbtv]

Hey man I love BCM. I think my favorite build is a BCM and might be next video.

[@AFChase]

DD is so overrated. BCM and other companies def makes better stuff than DD.

[@Antykain]

As an owner of a DD M4A1 RIS III and DDM4V7, and BCM MK2 RECCE 14 ELW.. I agree about the BCM MK2 upper. Excellent 'redesign' on the traditional mil-spec upper. Not that most users will even need the extra rigidity that comes with the MK2 upper receiver, but I guess it's the piece of mind that counts. Not so sure about the "gas expansion chamber" on the MK2 upper receivers. I don't notice a difference when shooting suppressed compared to mil-spec or even the few billet upper receivers I've used. Either way, still love my DD and BCM setups (M4A1 RIS III is the top go-to tho 🤘). And whether you go BCM or DD, you're still winning..

[@DutchK75]

@@tx611 No, if you look at the buffer weights and spring inside the buffer. It's diffrent than the Vltor A5. They hired the designer of the system from Vltor.

[@DutchK75]

@@tx611 Yeah I'm calling bullsh*t on the 1/2 inch tack driver nonsense. CHF barrels aren't that accurate. Reason why the Army said no to them for so long. It's been a long known fact that button and broach cut barrels are inherently more accurate. CHF is European thing. It's a easier way to mass produce them. Pure and simple. Yeah they keep their sh*ttier accuracy longer. Big deal. I hadn't ever seen a cracked BCM barrel. Pat Rogers of EAG had gun lines going of BCM stuff. As did Gunsite. Read Filthy14. Bravo Company has it's own manufacturing in Las Vegas. The only thing they don't manufacture is barrels, BCG's. Miscellaneous other things. The Mk2 upper I'm sure is being produced there. Besides Marty Daniel is a spineless d*ckless douche. I wouldn't buy sh*t from that guy. Tried to sell the 2nd down the sh*tter.

[@wesgeorge1058]

LMT upper and Lower, Triarc 13.7, Geissele rail, LaRue trigger, Eotech with Magnifier on Unity mounts, Surefire suppressor

[@tfbtv]

Wasn’t there some kind of dustup with TriArc lately?

[@wesgeorge1058]

@@tfbtv I haven’t heard. I did this build about a year ago

[@MisplacedArms]

I had a SilencerCo charging handle lose it's roll pins while using it, and sent it back and got an upgraded version without roll pins. I haven't had the o ring/gasket come out which I hear is a problem

[@wadereynoldsgm]

Although I've been in Texas for 20 years, I grew up in Kenner and I get an appreciate your Nawlins references. I also lo e the name of your range, Neutral Ground! I'll have to check it out next time I'm visiting family in good, ol Louisiana.

[@ruthlessreviews1283]

All of my Criterion barrels are shooting sub-MOA with PMC X-TAC, and they’re chrome lined barrels. That’s been my standard for accuracy with an AR for years.

[@ruthlessreviews1283]

If you’re interested in checking one out for your next video but you don’t want to build a parts gun, ADM has them in their factory guns

[@grandvage]

Criterion is buttoned and they make some of the best barrels for accuracy and longevity that I've seen. It's not the forging process, it's the company and their QC.

[@ruthlessreviews1283]

@@grandvage agreed. And their gassing is excellent too, suppressed and unsuppressed. I have a 12.5”, 13.9”, and 16” barrel from them, and they’re all .5-.6 MOA with Mk262 and hovering just below to one MOA with 55g PMC X-TAC

[@Mrkeats5487]

Great vid I love how you have done $500 cheap to $5000 not so cheap at the end of the day still have to stick with a DD .

[@BuckF0eJiden]

Whats the biggest benefit of running a PSA rifle for home defense? You're not nearly as upset when the local PD "loses" it out of the evidence locker after you successfully use it in a self defense scenario.

[@KnightOfFaraam]

As a lifelong Aero fanboy, slapping a nice CHF barrel in the M4E1 upper with their enhanced handguard with the rail screwing directly into the barrel nut. (I can't remember the name, I have one on my LR308 areo build.) Add a good BCG and an adjustable gas block you have an upper than can and will run with the top brand factory assembled uppers.

[@Glandash]

You can currently get a Q Sugar Weasel 16” rifle that comes with the Honey Badger gas system, a Cherry Bomb silencer mount, some nice furniture, and an upgraded ALG trigger for $1500. I think it’s a great buy compared to other guns in the $1500 price range, but I’m also a fan of theirs.

[@tfbtv]

Dude shut up you’re going to ruin the next video

[@bryanduchane2371]

Thanks for letting me know what the next video is about so I won't waste my valuable time watching that shit when it's released... Can you start doing a Video Guide of what you're going to release and when?? Just xfing with you!!!

[@Glandash]

@@tfbtv I love it. Can’t wait. The 16” Sugar Weasel and the 5.56 HB are on my to buy short list.

[@HKGunPlay]

They have one is the store near me. I am going to buy it as soon as my Daniel defense gets here. I just bought a lwrc 16 barrel and the maxim defense 5 inch barrel pdx. I paid like 2200 after taxes for my lwrc di it’s my favorite so far. I got the maxim at a steal for 1000 a guy showed up to my local store needing money. Good thing I can throw a rock and hit my local store. They always call me when they can’t make a deal with someone trying to sell a gun. They offered him 600 bucks for it and his receipt said 2200. I recommend getting to know the people who work at your local gun store for the best deals out there. My Daniel defense I am getting was only 1700 and it’s a the ar pistol one. I haven’t even seen it yet but bought it solely on the name brand so I hope your right about DD because I have one on the way.

[@Glandash]

@@HKGunPlayI am an FFL. 🫡

[@joelerk6298]

I've been waiting for this. Great content tfb!

[@ignitionSoldier]

To each his own, but if im dropping over 2000 on a rifle, Im getting an LMT. As a matter of fact I found an MLR for 2195 last year. At the DD price point you can get superior rifles if you look hard enough.

[@tfbtv]

LMT makes an outstanding rifle. I’ve got an MRP shovelnose SBR that might be the next chapter.

[@ignitionSoldier]

Can't wait to see it!

[@brighthought11]

LMT is the best of the best, monolithic upper, barrel variety and can send in any barrel to D.Wilson for work, fully ambi lowers, DI and Piston, Mlok/Quad/LM8, multiple calibers, AR15/AR10 and possibly pcc, Enhanced BCG etc etc! at a certain level their all good, pick your flavor! LMT,KAC, HK, SIG, Noveske, LWRC, ADM, Centurion, Daniel Defense, Geissele, Radian,FCD/SOLGW, SLR, JP, Hodge, PWS, Larue, Sionics, Triarc

[@kinddave27]

This guy has a face mag of himself. You wonderful man!!!

[@Watchdog_UFOtestpilot]

I chose a DD5 v3 for my platform. I’m still on the fence regarding which ACOG to use. Suddenly, I’m already over budget…. 😅

[@brighthought11]

if your going ACOG, 3x5x LED ACOG green horseshoe is what I have used on a SCAR17, SLR custom AR10 and a LMT, and its dead accurate, light / smaller side package. Only issue is 3.5x, good for anything realistic, but if you wanna really stretch the legs on 308 you may begin to desire 6x +, 6x ACOG, but at that point, you can do 1.5-6x Elcan, or LPVO's like 1-8x VCOG, 1-8 Accupower, 1-6x E Razor, 1-8x ATACR NF etc. 1

[@Watchdog_UFOtestpilot]

@@brighthought11 LPVO crossed my mind briefly, but I’m really looking to the 6x48 .308 ACOG with green chevron. Edit: with the caveat of putting an RMR on top.

[@brighthought11]

@@Watchdog_UFOtestpilot that will be awesome!

[@StarsiegeMercenaries]

Bearcreek is the sleeper hobo crack with a front post and a rear UTG irons. ( Hobos are using this for their Hobo defense combine agreements across the North America prefecture.) Tent doctrine combined with zero grid footprint practice will help any homeless edgecrusher survive the new bladerunner future of the world wide web of things.

[@patrickseaman]

Thanks for this. DD is definitely on my list. I'm one of those "playeur" supporters. I'd be interested to see a comparison/review of the Wilson Combat AR's up against DD or other higher end ARs. Is it just Gucci? Are the WC ARs as comparably good a platform as their pistols?

[@tfbtv]

I had a really bad experience on TFBTV years ago with the WC AR-9 so I've avoided them since. Video's there somewhere.

[@edouble9894]

I can’t speak for a complete Wilson combat ar but I can tell you there 20in 308 barrel is solid and sub moa accurate. And there nb bcg with dual ejector has run flawless on an aero upper.

[@cosbyc2]

Overall a well thought out system that should work great. Personally I'd go with a 11.5 to 12.5 sbr instead considering the can will help some with the velocity and still keep the gun semi short. I've been playing with a LMT 12.5 piston setup running a surefire can and while heavy it has very little blowback and overall a great setup. It has the EOTech 1-6 and as you stated its a little heavier but I do love the donut of death on 1x before you zoom out of it. Its one of the few guns I haven't put a MBT trigger in as the lmt 2 stage in the mars-l lower is fine. The MBT is better but I can't really complain about the stock one.

[@Skarekrow570]

My 5,000 budget rifle not including scope and suppressor. Which I have already built out and tested heavily is as follows. Mega billet GTR3H ambi recievers, Criterion 13.7 barrel, DD MFR chopped to 13.5, VLTOR A5 buffer system, Sionics NP3 BCG, DD low -pro gas block/tube, Geissele SSA-E, Full FCD Billet-ambi controls, B5 sopmod/grip, Surefire FH/suppressor adapter, Radian CH, viking tactics sling, Surefire M600df on an arisaka offset mount. Whole gun build with light only cost 3,000 and is tuned for all scenarios. 13.7 is super maneuverable for CQB, while still long enough to reach out to 3-400 yards without crazy velocity loss especiallt with the 77 grain OTMS i run. I rounded it out with a kahles k18i on a badger mount, and an RC2. 1 gun to rule them all for shtf with the tightest tolerances, sub moa accuracy, buttery recoil smoothness.

[@keinstein69]

If only there were guns that feed behind the trigger mechanism as to make them shorter overall but still featured full 16 in barrels

[@tfbtv]

Haha get out of here crazy person

[@TransformersHoarder]

I had the same dream… if only someone would make that happen.

[@YacolJ]

Reap Industries makes a great bullpup conversion for the AR 15.

[@03Grunt-arrino]

Gross.

[@breckfreeride]

@@YacolJ terrible idea

[@CuttingEdgeWorks]

Great setup! Used to have one almost identical and loved it! I prefer the BCM mk2 upper & handguard, DD 16" lightweight barrel, LWRC ambi-lower, SRC BCG, Primary Arms Plx1-8c, Holosun 509t mounted atop the LPVO, HUXWORX suppressor, AERO Breach Charging Handle, Cloud Defensive REIN 3, and I'd keep everything else the same. ;D

[@walkerofpauls2710]

Urban rifle? I’ll take my SBR with ACOG and canted dot. I hated clearing MOUT with an A4, why do it in the real world? Heck I’d even go loud with BMD so I can flash bang and kill at the same time

[@warrenharrison9490]

The PMC Xtac 62 grain in my BA barreled 14.5" 1/7 twist is clover leaf at 50 yds, over 1.5" with WWB 55 or 62 or Wolf gold 55.

[@fairlanemuscle]

$650 rifle. $250 optics. $100 light. $1000 ammo and mags. $3000 in training.

[@fredrikmagnusson6469]

The soundmatched intro was FIRE!

[@614XJ]

I’d go LMT if going no budget AR style.

[@tfbtv]

Um excuse me but 5000 dollars is technically a budget

[@tomharper8351]

@@tfbtvI’m way over $5k with fp peq, Kahles & t2 for nods & KAC stuff.

[@Perkuhlerk]

I’m building a similar rig w a DD so the things I did different - Trijicon 1-8 Credo HX w red/green reticles - the red on highest setting works well in normal daylight - still fades if suns right in your face but the black pops well still, scalaworks Mount to shave weight, Velos LBP can, geiselle trigger BUT buy on American holidays only - they’re usually discounted $100, the new SF turbo mini, and bought a blemmed radian CH for almost half off.

[@antazur3983]

With all the respect I have for you and the channel, I dare you to try moving around this kind of fishing-rod build in a CQB environnement, for exemple on an airsoft CQB field. Spoiler : it's a pain in the a** I'm doing it regularly with a 14.5" (no suppressor) and it already needs a lot of practice to go around corners, stairs and doors. With a 14.5" barrel and 62gr you keep a nice therminal balistic, even up to 300m, if it's not enough for you, just go for a 7.62x39. An urban rifle unwieldable indoors just make no sense ... Testing an urban rifle on a flat range is like testing a long-range rifle on a 100m shooting-range, it may work flawlessly, but you are not testing anything really. It's a great build, great rifle, great accessories, but not a realistic urban rifle build.

[@brettpowell5285]

Loved the video. Great review as always. I like your style on this set up. My go to AR is a V7 SLW in deep woods green. I outfitted mine with BCM furniture, Geissele trigger, the same Surefire light and modlite switch that you chose, along with a Nightforce ATACR 1-8 with an offset RMR, both in Scalarworks mounts. I also use a Vickers sling. It is by far my favorite AR set up. I definitely agree with you on DD kind of being the Glock of the AR world. That's a great way to put it.

[@MrBullet888]

About $2500 is my max and easily doable. I have 6 ARs, all 16", set up up with either red dots or an LPVO. LPVOs are Weaver which is middle of the road to me. Red dots consist of either EoTech or Aimpoint. Mixture of older Colts, S&W and 1 FN. None were over $1300. No hate on Daniel Defense or any of the other higher end ARs, I'm just not spending that much personally.

[@boatscrypto5856]

The Primary plx-c 1-8 is the same weight with more magnification. It’s also less money. Definitely would have picked that over the Leupold

[@boatscrypto5856]

Also don’t understand why you wouldn’t pick the DDM4 ISR with integrated suppressor

[@tfbtv]

I specifically mention it in the video.

[@thunderblade95]

Your definition of "budget" is quite different from everyone else's definition of budget

[@jacobprevost9962]

I was thinking the same thing! I don't know what kind of jobs everybody has but $5,000 is a lot of money! Especially for one rifle build.

[@salgarnica9328]

1.2 to 1.5gs for a base rifle 1g to 2g for an optic Put in the weapon light idk 2gs for a laser haven't even added a suppressor yet 5gs would be very middle of the road lol 😅😂

[@misterc6012]

Did anyone bother to read the title of the video ?! It didn't say, CHEAPEST Urban Rifle Build ($500 Budget). It said ULTIMATE Urban Rifle Build ($5000 Budget). Budget meaning HOW MUCH he could spend and not go over. C'mon Fellaz

[@SpicyRamen602]

He didn’t say “budget ar15” he said “$5,000 budget” There’s a difference.

[@jshepard152]

​@@SpicyRamen602 Public school issues.

[@ryanweiss1721]

Im planning on a similar build but a few differences. BCM upper, Aero lower, HUXWRX 7.62 Flow Ti, Primary Arms PLXC 1-8 with a 12 O'clock Holsun 509T. Possibly the same trigger. I also love the MBT but I am a Giessele fan too. Surefire is always a safe choice for lights but I like what I have seen for the HRT AWL heads. The biggest thing I am stuck on is if I want a 16in barrel or to pin and weld a 14.5in. The price is about the same and according to BCM's website, there is only 1oz differences between barrels and 1oz differences between their 15in and 13in handguards. That 100% surprised me. I thought it would be more. Ultimately, the difference is going to be a rifle 1.5in shorter and appropriately 2oz lighter with the added time and expense of getting a gun smith to pin and weld the muzzle device or a slightly longer and heavy gun that also has 65ish more FPS.

[@jason200912]

I go longer in case u want to change muzzle or do a silencer

[@johnfarrow3463]

I have been planning on getting a DD rifle, I’ve been shooting my Geissele 14.5” & 16” rifles the last 3 & 5 Years. Kinda my go to rifles. But I built a budget custom rifle with all AERO M4 Enhanced upper/lower/rail w/ the DD CHF CL 16” Midlength gas system & DD BCG & the LaRue trigger & it’s impressed me so much I am going to copy this Build & see if I can find another Go To besides my Geisseles. Oh yeah, for my glass I have been using the US Optics 1-8 with the funky Mil Dot/MOA Combo set up. But for 450$-600$ depending on year purchased they’re not bad at all. Thanks for the extended reviews you do! When somebody runs 100-200 rounds through something & plugs it like it’s the 2nd coming of “Hay-Seuss” I’m always skeptical. With a year on the trigger using cheapo any store has it Ammo, that’s another plus. Hearing reviews from flat range central w/ match ammo pulling 1” groups I estimate myself clocking 13” groups of 5 with 55grn reloads from Gunbroker.. thanks for “Keepin it Real” for the rest of us! Can’t wait to see how I do with this.

[@Lester.M]

Just picked up a DDM4V7 and it is by far the best.

[@alanaipperspach4756]

I change ammo a fair amount with my rifles that use Night force scopes with have your hated return to zero stop. I get around it by setting the return to zero stop at around -0.5 mils from my favorite ammo zero. This allows me to dial a different zero (but doesn't necessarily read 0 on the turret) for.different ammo. I note the zero adjustment on a piece of paper taped inside the lens cap.

[@TheVanbosch]

Well done as always Mr. Reeves. Great information, feedback and entertainment. Well done. While I prefer my DD Rifles to mount with 6 bolts... the V7 is hard to beat for the price.

[@I2AT]

Love the videos. Love the funny side comments. Solid work sir.

[@BlackElephantProject]

Finally doing my dream build now. I’m waiting on my 14.5 URGI to ship from geissele. Currently on the “4-6 week wait” step of the process. I’ve decided I’m going all in on this build. I’m in between a radian ADAC or LMT lower because I’m a lefty. Most likely eotech with magnifier. A cmc single Stage. Probably b5 furniture. Still not sure on the optic. I love my 4x acog on my 16 inch ar but I just DONT KNOW! Wracking my brain on this one.

[@J.Young808]

LWRCi 16” M6IC DI, Valhalla 18650 Baldr SOL + ODA w/Atibal head, Ferro Concepts Slingster, Atibal 1-10, SOLGW NOX-SC

[@raifsevrence]

LWRC IC DI (MLOK) BCM grip+sopmod stock BFG padded sling LaRue MBT2-S flat face PA PLxC 1-8 FFP Otter Creek Polonium K (probably direct thread) Streamlight Pro-tac 2+Shaffer Machining pressure switch mount Spend the rest on ammo

[@hancockwalker9797]

My "Duty" rifle build is a 16" Griffin Armament Mk1 RECCE as a base. I can't say enough good things about that rifle. It's easily sub MOA, the trigger is phenomenal, and it runs & runs. She is a THICCC BITHCH, so if weight is a concern you might need to do some pushups. I topped it with a PA 2.5-10x ACSS Griffin w/ offset holosun 403c-gr. I've gotten hits out to 780m with IMI 77gr. I'm running a Cloud Rein Micro 2.0, which is great. For a dedicated 5.56 can leaning towards Griffin's new Dual-Lok HRT 556, but I'm also considering the DA Sierra 5. I also swapped out the GA stock, basically an improved M4 stock, for a Magpul ACS to have something a with less wiggle for distance shooting.

[@elitefirearmsnc2419]

Excellent video displaying the effectiveness of the zero. Depending on what rifle I'm using, I'll use a 25-35 yard zero as well.

[@Conan361]

I’d add a vcog. Yes it’s heavy, but the built in mount and consistent eye relief thru the entire magnification makes up for it

[@chuychubasquino2957]

I come for James' comedy, and stay for the guns, optics, etc.

[@Sheppard2030]

You’re so affluently out of my league that I have to address you as “Mr. Reeves” from now on, sir. Very nice choice, Mr. Reeves.