Hop vs. James Cheap AR-15 Budget Build-Off PART 2

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@tfbtv
@tfbtv Жыл бұрын
What’s the next competition you’d like to see for James v. Hop ?
@olveroliver52
@olveroliver52 Жыл бұрын
Sub 650$ tactical shotgun
@devil5cry
@devil5cry Жыл бұрын
an 308-ish battle rifle/DMR within 2000-ish dollar? glass is separate as can be expensive than the rifle and test them with iron then the glass
@nobisspectare3651
@nobisspectare3651 Жыл бұрын
Who can say the nicest thing about the other person :))
@VampireMilf
@VampireMilf Жыл бұрын
Booty short contest
@srwarehouseman
@srwarehouseman Жыл бұрын
Poverty tier / entry level AR build off (sub $800 for those who think then need an M&P Sport)
@ShotgunSurgeon.
@ShotgunSurgeon. Жыл бұрын
"Its a little out of spec, so its destroying itself inside" Me too rifle, me too
@nomad753
@nomad753 Жыл бұрын
I feel your pain brother
@Gunthusiest
@Gunthusiest Жыл бұрын
"That's a little weird.."
@stevenprather5833
@stevenprather5833 Жыл бұрын
Relatable
@warrenharrison9490
@warrenharrison9490 Жыл бұрын
This is me.
@erroneous6947
@erroneous6947 Жыл бұрын
Pretty deep for Saturday morning.
@JohnChoidotOrg
@JohnChoidotOrg Жыл бұрын
"You merely adopted the budget...I was born in it, molded by it. I was a man before I saw my first Surefire, and by then, it was blinding." -Hop
@scottward7813
@scottward7813 Жыл бұрын
Almost Shakespearian
@colbunkmust
@colbunkmust Жыл бұрын
@@scottward7813 Tbf, James' comment on Juliet's tight box was literally Shakespearian.
@jf7393
@jf7393 Жыл бұрын
You butchered the second half but I chuckled nevertheless heartily
@debbiemiller4281
@debbiemiller4281 Жыл бұрын
You win the internet today. Great great comment.
@jadedclone6728
@jadedclone6728 Жыл бұрын
I identify with this.
@cliffsangelsphotography
@cliffsangelsphotography Жыл бұрын
I like that it rained while Hop was going over the rifle. Even Mother Nature was saddened by James build
@rcrites
@rcrites Жыл бұрын
Paul harrell vibes.
@stubbingtonmarigold3032
@stubbingtonmarigold3032 Жыл бұрын
If James had spent less on the barrel, gotten a light and it’s buffer tube situation was different- clear win ... BUT HE DIDN’T... sadly hop wins this with that god awful ugly gun.
@robertp881
@robertp881 Жыл бұрын
I’ll give Hop $10k right now if he talks out of the left side of his mouth.
@Genesis23OPB
@Genesis23OPB Жыл бұрын
@@stubbingtonmarigold3032 it was clear for everyone to see that hop would win it
@reekz8089
@reekz8089 Жыл бұрын
Lol
@originalterrorsquad
@originalterrorsquad Жыл бұрын
Hops burn about James gun looking like a "my first gun" /r/ reddit post was the sickest burn I've heard in a hot minute.
@thepioneer6178
@thepioneer6178 Жыл бұрын
That was the most legit burn.
@dteachout147
@dteachout147 4 ай бұрын
Accurate
@Lexrockstheblock
@Lexrockstheblock Жыл бұрын
James' gun surprised me because I didn't know you could make an AR look metrosexual.
@the_realpapajohn
@the_realpapajohn Жыл бұрын
lmfao
@stubbingtonmarigold3032
@stubbingtonmarigold3032 Жыл бұрын
Hop didn’t have time to rattle can it flecktarn
@brucebanner6149
@brucebanner6149 Жыл бұрын
Depends who is holding it.
@mikelivingston6157
@mikelivingston6157 Жыл бұрын
I busted a guy laughing at this. Maybe he needs some little cut off denim shorts to dress up the mags.
@DaBlaccGhost
@DaBlaccGhost Жыл бұрын
@@mikelivingston6157 HAHA 🤣
@roachezmo
@roachezmo Жыл бұрын
Very entertaining video. With the money James saved with that budget build combined with the money earned selling it, hopefully our boy can now afford a whole pair of shorts.
@stubbingtonmarigold3032
@stubbingtonmarigold3032 Жыл бұрын
He never left the 90’s bike shorts as regular clothing....
@reekz8089
@reekz8089 Жыл бұрын
Lol
@SyrupCanuck
@SyrupCanuck Жыл бұрын
😂 The old moose knuckle
@Stoney_1024
@Stoney_1024 11 ай бұрын
BRO IM CRYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@and4077
@and4077 Жыл бұрын
So cool to see James correctly identify the myriad of advantages to M-LOK over Quad Rails, immediately following a demonstration of his build in which he used literally none of his M-LOK slots. Great video
@chizorama
@chizorama Жыл бұрын
Bro, he used a slot for sling mount, so there's that...
@Mr_Glock19
@Mr_Glock19 Жыл бұрын
Hop won this all the way. Even best insult; “looks like someone’s ‘my first gun’ r/ Reddit post” floored me 😂😂😂😭
@somebody6433
@somebody6433 Жыл бұрын
I get anxiety thinking Hop will somehow see my AR someday.
@moseywhales9127
@moseywhales9127 Жыл бұрын
Now give them to Clint smith to roast
@robertmccann5838
@robertmccann5838 Жыл бұрын
Why I run AKs. They are shit to begin with. LOL
@JustMatt_2023
@JustMatt_2023 Жыл бұрын
@@robertmccann5838 😂
@546people
@546people Жыл бұрын
I bought a cheap ar and a cheap ak. I love my ak. It is so cheap to feed.
@robertmccann5838
@robertmccann5838 Жыл бұрын
@@546people amen, brother
@p03saucez
@p03saucez Жыл бұрын
"Just like Romeo said, Juliet's box is pretty tight" Classic Shakespeare there. Quite the hit in pre-AP English class back in the day.
@JohnChoidotOrg
@JohnChoidotOrg Жыл бұрын
For budget builds, Hop has a home court advantage. James looks like he'll use a $100 to buy a pack of gum in a convenient store.
@roachezmo
@roachezmo Жыл бұрын
Gucci gum in exquisite leather casing.
@LincolnH1224
@LincolnH1224 Жыл бұрын
They didn’t mention it but James was over the budget.
@allcapsboy9139
@allcapsboy9139 Жыл бұрын
@@LincolnH1224 they mentioned it like 9 times
@rickh9396
@rickh9396 Жыл бұрын
In fairness to Hop for his quad rail choice, he knows James has plenty of experience handling that much girth.
@skillzorz101
@skillzorz101 Жыл бұрын
But only while on his knees, lol
@ozarkman291
@ozarkman291 Жыл бұрын
James will never recover, being called r*ddit tier is one of the cruelest insults known to man
@knifetex
@knifetex Жыл бұрын
It’s not the content we need, but the content we deserve.
@scottward7813
@scottward7813 Жыл бұрын
One of the greatest comments I have ever read!
@sisleymichael
@sisleymichael Жыл бұрын
@@scottward7813 AMEN!
@I_am_archie
@I_am_archie Жыл бұрын
👏 Bravo 👏👏 Bravo 👏👏👏
@TeamSquirrelGames
@TeamSquirrelGames Жыл бұрын
I love the dynamic you and your son have together.
@Cincinnatis
@Cincinnatis Жыл бұрын
Gotta give it to Hop on this one.
@stubbingtonmarigold3032
@stubbingtonmarigold3032 Жыл бұрын
Within the rules of the competition and not damaging itself is an ugly win for a hideously ugly gun.
@lemon8513
@lemon8513 Жыл бұрын
@@stubbingtonmarigold3032 still a win
@chizorama
@chizorama Жыл бұрын
@@stubbingtonmarigold3032 It's ugly cuz Hop built it, if James went that route it woulda been "vintage", just like his short shorts...
@tylerm6652
@tylerm6652 Жыл бұрын
How does Hop simultaneously look 14 and 40?
@Brimwald
@Brimwald Жыл бұрын
He is an android
@MopSpadowski
@MopSpadowski Жыл бұрын
Adrenochrome.
@channa5446
@channa5446 Жыл бұрын
Cigarettes
@bghiggy
@bghiggy Жыл бұрын
He owns a cat
@ChrisHuppey
@ChrisHuppey Жыл бұрын
Cerebrolysin
@PartyRockProfessional
@PartyRockProfessional Жыл бұрын
Hop definitely won this one. His rifle won’t turn into an IED eventually
@s0nnyburnett
@s0nnyburnett Жыл бұрын
I think that's the real deciding factor here. One will give you a dead trigger and get you killed.
@Matt-nd2mx
@Matt-nd2mx Жыл бұрын
Quick, reliable budget rig. Aero m4e1 complete upper w Atlas Rail: 350 Aero m4e1 lower: 90 LaRue Trigger: 80 SOLGW LPK: 40 Aero buffer setup: 50 Vortex Strike Eagle 1-6: 350 Total: 960 Money left over for Mbus, Whiskey and a Plan B pill
@Isometrix116
@Isometrix116 4 ай бұрын
You didn't mention a stock or pistol grip. Tbf, that's not going to run you past $80 for a CTR + K2, but still. Also worth mentioning that these prices would mostly be a steal for the given items, so while I respect this build, idk if it realistically comes out below $1250, especially if you factor in shipping. I know this because this is almost the exact build I'm going for right now with a few differences, like choosing a Juliet 4 that I got for a steal ($150!) + 1x microprism over the Strike Eagle for a slightly lower price . Given, it's over a year later, so that's worth considering.
@wonderloaf
@wonderloaf Жыл бұрын
I haven't watched the video yet, but Hop will always win. Win my heart cause I love him.
@tfbtv
@tfbtv Жыл бұрын
Thanks Loaf.
@chizorama
@chizorama Жыл бұрын
@@tfbtv It's the short shorts, worse than quadrails A2 fsp's. Much-much worse...
@tm1182
@tm1182 Жыл бұрын
"HOPMOD" is probably the best thing I've heard all year
@jackbauer4186
@jackbauer4186 Жыл бұрын
The Schmid 2 stage is 95% what a G SSA trigger is... for 40% the price. They're pretty phenomenal.
@Knowledge315Official
@Knowledge315Official Жыл бұрын
TFB TV: “we built these guns intending to sell them after testing” ATF: “intending to sell?”…🧐 😂😂😂
@kevinmarrett9532
@kevinmarrett9532 Жыл бұрын
This is the first time I can ever remember rewinding the first minute of a video out of sheer enjoyment.
@jonathonloredo8026
@jonathonloredo8026 Жыл бұрын
Finallyyy James is forced to shoot a PSA
@crdowney1
@crdowney1 Жыл бұрын
The ejection pattern on James' build.... nice. If you put a supressor on it, those cases would be hitting the target as well.
@cfltitan
@cfltitan Жыл бұрын
As a 45 year old I cracked up at Jame’s review of the 90’s. 😂
@afgh1408
@afgh1408 Жыл бұрын
Jame Reeves
@s0nnyburnett
@s0nnyburnett Жыл бұрын
I'm 30 and it was pretty funny. My 2 cents is that paying for the porn made it more exciting having a few tapes and mags vs having 2TB and needing more.
@Swanhub
@Swanhub Жыл бұрын
Thanks for discussing the damage to the buffer face Hop, that is happening on my new build and I couldn't exactly pin down the cause.
@JackedLobster
@JackedLobster Жыл бұрын
Another possible cause not mentioned would be if the carrier was too short.
@micnor14
@micnor14 Жыл бұрын
I built my first AR after Part 1 came out! I'm lucky to have family and friends with years of knowledge and guidance including the Part 1 video in this series. However I went with neither James nor Hops build. The meat and potatoes of my build is the excellent complete build kit from PSA that includes an 18" 223 Wylde barrel, rifle length gas system, lightweight 15" MLOK rail, upgraded trigger, complete lower parts kit, Magpull furniture, and A2 birdcage all for $450. That is AMAZING! For $50 I milled the lower myself but PSA offers their lower for the same price. Upgraded charging handle and sling were $50. For optics I scored a Vortex 1-8x LVPO w/ mount on sale (through PSA again) for literally half off at $350. Primary Arms and Vortex have sales all the time. Streamlight makes some excellent low cost weapon lights, though I opted to use one from another rifle of mine. Built rifle comes out to $1000. Spent $250 on cheap mags and ammo. I gotta say PSA may not make the finest products, but damn if they aren't the most valuable. If Hop and James do end up making another budget build video I know for sure one if not both of them will buy PSA. Part 1 was, in a way, how I learned NOT to build my first AR. The compromises James and Hops endured were lessons learnt. The lighter barrel, longer gas system, 223 Wylde chamber, and LVPO resolved all the cons their builds had while still remaining affordable. Thank you TFBTV!
@Borderline5440
@Borderline5440 Жыл бұрын
I bought that upper as well and I am definitely looking forward to shooting it more (first one was out of spec and wouldn't accept a charging handle; they resolved the issue quickly and free of charge). Sounds like it was a good choice.
@213chewy
@213chewy Жыл бұрын
Hop actually built a solid rifle while james built an Amish woman…. Very plain and ugly 😂
@chizorama
@chizorama Жыл бұрын
I think if James would've bought an upper or lower from PSA his shorts would've grown, or he would've burst into flames, or both...
@nomad753
@nomad753 Жыл бұрын
It's 8:30 am and I've had six beers. Yet , I still feel sorry for you both
@GirthQuake3
@GirthQuake3 Жыл бұрын
Lol nice
@scottward7813
@scottward7813 Жыл бұрын
Deadly...
@jasonjackson6055
@jasonjackson6055 Жыл бұрын
A man after my own heart...
@clayb3765
@clayb3765 Жыл бұрын
As for the buffer marks, I actually ordered six aero precision rifles at one time, and all of the bolt carrier groups were out of spec and digging into the buffer, causing that issue on all the rifles, so it could be the BCG. Aero did replace them all free of charge.
@guncafe4183
@guncafe4183 Жыл бұрын
I have assembled two different rifles now, and it's nice to see some suggestions for budget tier rifles here and what little things can be improved here and there, and some of the limitations that are present. Always appreciate you guys putting out excellent content!
@michaellowery928
@michaellowery928 Жыл бұрын
Jimbo and The Hopster...a satirical love story. Thank you, gentlemen, for bringing some levity to the gun community! Keep 'em coming!
@NewWorldDisorder1
@NewWorldDisorder1 Жыл бұрын
I like how their budget builds are $700 more than my budget builds 🤣
@JohnMurse
@JohnMurse Жыл бұрын
Haha right? Minus the optic, my budget build was like $600
@lobsterbark
@lobsterbark Жыл бұрын
Yeah fr, my budget build was better than both of these and was like, $800 with optics.
@alphazuluz
@alphazuluz Жыл бұрын
You’re not kidding. My budget AR-10 was less than these.
@vexrich
@vexrich Жыл бұрын
@@JohnMurse you guys are getting optics??
@chizorama
@chizorama Жыл бұрын
PSA with free floating mlok & magpul furniture 500, Sig Sauer Tango 300, Streamlight protac 125, sling(users choice) we'll go high, 75, buis rear 50ish, still have plenty leftover for an upgraded trigger, buffer & spring & maybe bcg. Being poor takes talent...
@berryreading4809
@berryreading4809 Жыл бұрын
I agree, they both won by losing equally 😂 The only way those two could've been more miserable during the review is if somehow the rifles caused them to instantly transport to the opposing environments... James in shorties and a t-shirt getting hypothermia, and Hop passing out from heat stroke as he desperately tries to shed clothing worth more than his rifle build, all confused why the moisture is in the air but not falling dammit! 😄 These facts prove that this is a great concept for similar future content! ✨️👍
@lanceblount7687
@lanceblount7687 Жыл бұрын
Thanks! You guys are awesome!
@daniel.s.stefanov
@daniel.s.stefanov Жыл бұрын
Juliette saw James and thought it was part of the assignment to have a screw loose.
@williamwlotzka8721
@williamwlotzka8721 Жыл бұрын
The intro comments were so weird because I was on a jobsite talking guns w/a guy & he said his airsoft"team"was as good as any military team at clearing houses. He also said at about 90yds a 9mm will only leave a bruise & a burn mark!!! I was so stunned I could only give him a slow blink. Right hand to God,true story.
@schulzbrianr
@schulzbrianr Жыл бұрын
I was worried James lost when I heard him reading his Loser message, but then I heard Hop's, and I don't know which is better/worse.
@brandonrides8953
@brandonrides8953 Жыл бұрын
I would have done a brownells DD sopmod 14.5 upper with a p&w, and a PSA lower build kit with a Romeo 5 and probably been right in the same budget
@sheepherder911
@sheepherder911 Жыл бұрын
What's a p&w?
@brandonrides8953
@brandonrides8953 Жыл бұрын
@@sheepherder911 pin and weld
@MattCellaneous
@MattCellaneous Жыл бұрын
And James's point about the front sight post having to go for a full-length m-lok handguard that gets rid of the blurry for ground in my prism is facts.
@JTTV72
@JTTV72 Жыл бұрын
The Magpul SL-K stock sling slot is MLOK so there are many QD options out there. It’s not the upper being out of spec but the length of the carrier itself.
@MadMathMike
@MadMathMike Жыл бұрын
I really like that both rifles and the perspective of Hop and James make me think about a lot of things I wouldn't have thought about. Thanks, guys! 🙂👍
@zatharista
@zatharista Жыл бұрын
You guys should absolutely do this again next year, but up the budget a bit to keep things interesting!
@Nufrifin
@Nufrifin Жыл бұрын
That slot on sl-k is not just a loop, it's an m-lok slot. You can install a qd point in it.
@hashtagloiter
@hashtagloiter Жыл бұрын
Waiting for someone to say this
@ravenovatechnologies6554
@ravenovatechnologies6554 Жыл бұрын
Wow you learn something new every day.
@kittydaddy2023
@kittydaddy2023 Жыл бұрын
James was already over-budget
@ericniemann8338
@ericniemann8338 Жыл бұрын
Can you do that on any Magpul stock with those slots?
@Slivyr
@Slivyr Жыл бұрын
this has been one of the best series on TFBTV - I hope it continues
@piotrnowak7730
@piotrnowak7730 Жыл бұрын
Finally, the video I've been waiting for impatiently, I must admit that the result of the challenge didn't surprise me, I'm counting on more videos of this type, maybe next time PCC for home defense, only this time with a flashlight James.
@Shepherd3066
@Shepherd3066 Жыл бұрын
Hop and James need to more of this
@pj4433
@pj4433 Жыл бұрын
Yep enjoyed these immensely. Both presenters better than anything on TV
@tk423b
@tk423b Жыл бұрын
You can’t top the Hop, Pop’s gun went plop, But when you browse his brows, He went with lop.
@FrontstheHost
@FrontstheHost Жыл бұрын
I didn't expect a Girls' Frontline mention in a TFB video but I'm here for it. 😁
@biznatcho7
@biznatcho7 Жыл бұрын
“Like Romeo said, Juliet’s box is pretty tight.” 😂
@christopherdolan7330
@christopherdolan7330 Жыл бұрын
James went over budget in Pt 1
@LincolnH1224
@LincolnH1224 Жыл бұрын
I was looking for this comment. Surprised it didn’t come up in the video at all. Why have a budget if you immediately go over it?
@JarvisTastic
@JarvisTastic Жыл бұрын
AND didn't have a light smh my head
@chrisjosekuehl
@chrisjosekuehl Жыл бұрын
Hop did mention through the video, multiple times when he first went over the rifle.
@Saintbow
@Saintbow Жыл бұрын
"Mainly, I'm disappointed in you" James has been talking to my family again... In my defense, I really thought selling those Sherpa lined shortshorts would of been a great seller... well least in Florida...
@bradbolluyt9569
@bradbolluyt9569 Жыл бұрын
The buffer chattering is most likely a result of a burr in the buffer retaining pin channel of the bolt carrier group, you can sand the tail of the carrier very lightly with a gentle 1000 grit piece of sandpaper and it will remove the issue
@MrRolloBaggins
@MrRolloBaggins Жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this. My general budget for builds is around the same lol. I'd rather have a handful of setups that are good enough than one Gucci build and credit card payments. Poor life doesn't have to be completely awful.
@matthewriegner5180
@matthewriegner5180 Жыл бұрын
I mean you can build a really nice rifle for that dollar amount. Trick is to save the money first, have a parts list and kind of watch prices as you're saving so you know what a good price is. Then buy as the sales happen. I built a really nice rifle for that amount, including a quality red dot, but since I did piece meal and ordered as the money came in, I paid a bit more cause of shipping, like $200 total over a few months, when I probably could have lumped a lot of it together if I had the money saved. Also black friday/ Christmas sales are where it's at for building. Also, since it's worth mentioning, I'm not sure how psa's new lines will be cost wise for receivers, but another budget option is leadstar arms receiver set. Can find a set for $100 sometimes on psa and the lock up is tight and the tolerances are good. Not overly tight, but tight enough that nothing feels cheap when installed
@n996h
@n996h Жыл бұрын
My friend has that mentality, has a bunch of rifles that don’t shoot accurately. Cheaps out on ammo, optics, sling, flashlight. You name it, he budget bought it. It’s okay if you budget buy your first rifle, but why ALL of them? will never understand that mentality. Not even like your setups vary that much either since it’s usually budget garbage. 5 PSA rifles, 2 just with iron sights, 3 with shitty optics, no NVG, no IR, no good ammo, bad ammo count, 3 loaded mags, etc etc. Just save. End up realizing you can afford BCM, DD, LMT, MCX, SCAR, Import AKs etc etc. end up with good optics and accessories as well.
@MrRolloBaggins
@MrRolloBaggins Жыл бұрын
Yup. I have nice quality parts, a lot of things people upgrade on big name rifles anyways, decent optics, and pre planning is definitely key. Sales, discounts, blems, and free shipping codes go a very long way
@67buick
@67buick Жыл бұрын
Id say it’s about average or slightly above my builds as well. While I think hop clearly won and built a solid gun, I don’t think either was top their for $1250. My main rifle is a aero fsb mid length that I built for around that, maybe slightly cheaper. With holosun dot, a bushnell magnifier (severely underrated), and protac.
@davidmendez9256
@davidmendez9256 Жыл бұрын
What’s the point of having multiple AR-15s over one “higher quality” one? You can only shoot one at a time. But hey I have multiple KAC and LMTs so I’m living the best of both worlds hehe
@onefastr6
@onefastr6 Жыл бұрын
Been waiting anxiously for this. Thank you.
@judsontaylor3484
@judsontaylor3484 Жыл бұрын
One of my favorite rifles, I have around $275 in from clearance parts. If it breaks, it breaks, but it's a blast to beat the hell out of
@kerbalairforce8802
@kerbalairforce8802 Жыл бұрын
I frequently look to see what's in the "blemished" category on sites
@ArmyHumveeLaat
@ArmyHumveeLaat Жыл бұрын
That self-irony is a defeatless strategy, and delivers ultimate viewers experience) Intro got me into this vid instantly
@riskyflash6812
@riskyflash6812 Жыл бұрын
Now do one where you make the most expensive build you can think of; Hop can have a PVS-14 built into his upper and James can railwrap his handguard with Hop’s birth certificate
@mrtlsimon
@mrtlsimon Жыл бұрын
This series was entertaining and I looked forward to the conclusion. Keep up the good work
@matthewbeaver5026
@matthewbeaver5026 Жыл бұрын
If you flip the Juliette so that it flips left. You can get the eye box closer. I would guess someone didn't use locktight. Or maybe the rail is out of spec which would mean both entry's had at least one item out of spec.
@armadilloeggs231
@armadilloeggs231 Жыл бұрын
Or the Juliet is out of spec
@frankopanklaric
@frankopanklaric Жыл бұрын
Or the juliet is just bad. I used the 4x version. It was not good.
@stoptrackingourdata8158
@stoptrackingourdata8158 Жыл бұрын
@@armadilloeggs231 Why would you assume anything is out of spec? You can see the mount wobble with his shots before he pulls it off while trying to flip it down. The mounting screw either wasn't tightened down well enough or loctited when mounted or both. Mount anything to a gun without tightening it down properly or loctiting the screws and let me know how it goes. Probably about the same.
@chrisjames7489
@chrisjames7489 Жыл бұрын
PSA upper is very doubtfully out of spec. Their quality has been very impressive for quite a while now.
@matthewbeaver5026
@matthewbeaver5026 Жыл бұрын
@@frankopanklaric I've had no issues with mine. It's even mounted on a short x39. Bit more recoil than you average 5.56. As the other comments suggested I'd lean towards improper torque/no locktight being the culprit. Then the mount/magnifier out of spec. With the least likely being the psa upper out of spec. Was trying to give James and hop the benefit of the doubt when I brought that up in the initial comment
@GaudialisCorvus
@GaudialisCorvus Жыл бұрын
Fun competition and fun video! I loved the banter between you two roasting each other's builds. Between the two, though, I think the "Hopmod" rifle won this one 😄
@interestingvideosofinteres5136
@interestingvideosofinteres5136 Жыл бұрын
Take note the PSA rifle just worked. They have their quality control issues, but there customer service is exceptional (if you have any issues). Don’t be afraid to buy PSA, use the money you save to buy optics and ammo.
@RichardCranium321
@RichardCranium321 Жыл бұрын
Expo chrome lined bcg/barrel: $170 Aimsports wraith handguard: $50 Aero receiver set: $160 Warhammer charging handle: $35 Trinity force 15°grip: $15 Rise armament trigger: $100 LPK minus FCG: $20 Buffer system and stock: $50 Sig Romeo 7: $150 6 pmags: $50 Total: $800 Yeah, I'd say $1250 was a bit excessive for "budget builds" that are already falling apart. Even if you were to include the price of the vice, vice block, armorer's wrench, wheeler punch set, and hour of labor plus brisket and a beer for lunch then I'm still under $1K with my setup.
@rustyshackleford330
@rustyshackleford330 Жыл бұрын
i love this concept. very entertaining. i would like to see more of these "build off" style videos.
@marshybog
@marshybog Жыл бұрын
19:40 james mentioning girls frontline gave me huge whiplash
@anthonyzasio1998
@anthonyzasio1998 Жыл бұрын
I really believe you two should have just bought a $599 m lok psa a votex lpvo and a streamlight and youd be way ahead. I often caution people about this when they assemble ars from parts. Usually it costs more
@anthonyzasio1998
@anthonyzasio1998 Жыл бұрын
Just. As. Good.
@tballstaedt7807
@tballstaedt7807 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking along those same lines myself
@marcusborderlands6177
@marcusborderlands6177 Жыл бұрын
Sig lpvo. Budget vortex lpvos are so sad. Attack chicken is terrible for the money.
@TheMsdos25
@TheMsdos25 Жыл бұрын
Tango MSR 1-6 comes with rings and goes on sale for $270. Glass is pretty good according to C_does
@marcusborderlands6177
@marcusborderlands6177 Жыл бұрын
@@TheMsdos25 love my MSR. got it on C_does and Brassfacts reccomendations
@beefbigshot8789
@beefbigshot8789 Жыл бұрын
The "market" going the direction of nitride barrels does not mean they are good or better. They are solid for their price, but if you want a barrel that lasts you need that chrome lining. If you grab a CL barrel from a good manufacturer like DD, you will see superb accuracy so it's a non-issue
@frankwrogg2515
@frankwrogg2515 Жыл бұрын
When I went from a bushmaster patrolman built in 2014 to the cheapest, I could get PSA it was a big step up.
@jasonjackson6055
@jasonjackson6055 Жыл бұрын
The PSA rifles are good, especially for the money...
@gocraiger
@gocraiger Жыл бұрын
The two of them in one video competition is always going to be a must watch.
@freshjnew
@freshjnew Жыл бұрын
My budget build is sitting at $1680 so far. It's a pricey hobby to build quality stuff.
@5jjt
@5jjt Жыл бұрын
What's it's breakdown, piece by peice?
@whothoughthandleswereagoodidea
@whothoughthandleswereagoodidea 11 ай бұрын
I like how hop's criticism is "this gun looks ugly and destroys itself", meanwhile james criticism is "it's based on an old design that's been proven to be one of the best in history"
@theroguenob
@theroguenob Жыл бұрын
This was a great video now do one for custom Glocks
@coreyperez13
@coreyperez13 Жыл бұрын
"90's wasn't that great"? Hopp kicked your arse. 90's ROCKED!
@BringerOfD
@BringerOfD Жыл бұрын
IIRC I built my first and so far only AR, 5 or 6 years ago, for about the same money ~1500 CAD. It felt premium to me, though that's probably because my experience with ARs to that point had been issued to me as is, so I didn't even bother with a trigger upgrade. Standard milspec trigger group. Aero upper, lower, and BCG. MFT minimalist stock, MI mlok 14" hand guard, and Faxon 16" pencil barrel. Holosun 510c on top. Not the best thing, but I could shoot decently with it out to 300m. People argue about parallax but I've never found that too be a problem. As it stands now with some later additions like magnifier and light, better pistol grip, it's probably sitting at around 2200. The real key to this is not to trap yourself by building the rifle when you need it. I collected the parts over the course of like almost 2 years, fully taking advantage of sales and events.
@stevem4783
@stevem4783 Жыл бұрын
That's a perfectly fine build and there's no reason to say "not the best thing." Most of the "premium" crap out there is the same old shit with a different name on it and people pay it for no reason other than the name. I say this all the time, you take the brand stamping off the receivers, nearly all of these AR snobs wouldn't be able to tell the difference between one and another.
@JaykPuten
@JaykPuten Жыл бұрын
I'd like to see a cheapest 9mm duty/nightstand handgun challenge Or the best concealable handgun challenge (in any cartridge) next
@TheMsdos25
@TheMsdos25 Жыл бұрын
Bet hop would just buy a PSA dagger for that
@JaykPuten
@JaykPuten Жыл бұрын
@@TheMsdos25 let's be honest he would But if it was a challenge of like "spend x" then it'd really be about what was bought around that, as a Glock gen 3 clone can be bought from a ton of places, it's what you add that makes the difference... What red dot sights, what version (17 or 19) what kinda cuts or or barrel threading or not, what kind of aftermarket or brand Glock sights (to go with the red dot) Just to see in the end what's more usable Then again if they went with super compact carry there'd be the whole "caliber" choice (.380 or 9mm, 5.7, or even like 30 super if that's still a thing) adding a light, and then testing to see what ended up being the superior handgun for super compact/micro carry
@MoJosMojo
@MoJosMojo Жыл бұрын
PSA dagger
@davidp.6871
@davidp.6871 Жыл бұрын
I love the James v Hop series, next up should be a custom Glock competition!
@elijahp.3720
@elijahp.3720 Жыл бұрын
Literally been waiting for forever fo this
@KKrazy1998
@KKrazy1998 Жыл бұрын
I love seeing this kind of content. I'd love to see more of this.
@PBSviaPNW
@PBSviaPNW Жыл бұрын
Such a fun video series.
@MattCellaneous
@MattCellaneous Жыл бұрын
I have a 16-inch, carbine-length gas, heavy barrel. And a vortex 3x prism Red Dot etched reticle. Mostly because my base gun was an m&p. However, I decided that was a good platform for the employment of high-capacity magazines. Making it like a little civilian SAW. Decreased barrel whip is an advantage of a heavy barrel out at distance, though I wouldn't mind a little barrel whip to accompany my high-capacity magazines, the advantage of the heavy barrel is to fire a lot of rounds and overheat less. That's what I tell myself to make myself feel better. It has nothing to do with being poor.
@Badhagis
@Badhagis Жыл бұрын
Well, since you two often go back to Boomer Vs Fetus type insults, I'd like to see a head to head shoot off. Hop chooses one stage, and James chooses the other stage (to play to your own strengths), and just see what happens.
@bootlegengineer2367
@bootlegengineer2367 Жыл бұрын
Yeeeees! Love this idea.
@breckfreeride
@breckfreeride Жыл бұрын
Well... I was the shit talker mentioned at 3:16... Went and tried to price stuff for recent prices and it is indeed difficult to do. I'd still spend the money for the areo precision m4e1 upper and atlas r or s handguard with mid length gas, which are always backordered... But damn I remember they were 400 bucks. Now they start at 500, and go up to 900! It probably could still be done, but you'd have to find sales or have a parts stash or go with poverty pony or psa parts and lower. I like the slx3x from primary but the eyebox is just as bad as the Juliet, and I would rather just go with 45 irons from Magpul for backup over the holosun. Protac light and Magpul qd sling. I love strike industries, Midwest industries, and a few others for bang for the buck.
@phillipdale6765
@phillipdale6765 Жыл бұрын
Hilarious..made my day with this video and the Hop teardown was so amazing and funny. Omg. Thanks all of you for this
@mr_moose2610
@mr_moose2610 Жыл бұрын
Among videos you’ve made so far this is definitely one of them.
@DT-ww4gv
@DT-ww4gv Жыл бұрын
Good video! Hop for the WIN 🏆
@josh656
@josh656 Жыл бұрын
I bought the exact same Bushmaster at a gun show when the AWB was banished to bad memories.
@huntersmith1061
@huntersmith1061 Жыл бұрын
Hop knows you can put a mlok Qd sling mount the SL-K stock, right?
@bugenarious
@bugenarious Жыл бұрын
I'll be expecting a James Reeves x Soppo edit on the /ak/ thread by tonight. Chop chop.
@youraveragereloader649
@youraveragereloader649 Жыл бұрын
Hold up mf, Soppo? Nah bro it's a SOPMOD Block 1, M4A1 MOD 3 it is
@BillWilsonBG
@BillWilsonBG Жыл бұрын
>not gfg
@MarketAndChurch
@MarketAndChurch Жыл бұрын
My brain goes with James' build, and my heart goes with Hop's build.
@AndyCigars
@AndyCigars Жыл бұрын
The classic romantic struggle…I am there with ye.
@milesstover3724
@milesstover3724 Жыл бұрын
your brain is enjoying James malfunctioning build
@heeebeeegeeebeee
@heeebeeegeeebeee Жыл бұрын
I was just wondering this morning what ever happened with this face off. Glad to see this is out finally!
@ntb9548
@ntb9548 Жыл бұрын
Hop and James are the budget Haley, Garandthumb father son duo 😂 love the content guys
@danielweissenborn3508
@danielweissenborn3508 Жыл бұрын
We miss you 90s, what a magical and confusing decade of badassery
@darronlockett9211
@darronlockett9211 Жыл бұрын
"Ryan watch the camera you IDIOT" was an absolute Logan Paul moment.
@vexrich
@vexrich Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the affirmation James, I wasn't sure at first but now I know I will definitely build my next AR after Girls' Frontline.
@xen9254
@xen9254 Жыл бұрын
I hope you and Hop are still on speaking terms after this 💀
@1TouchGrass1
@1TouchGrass1 Жыл бұрын
here’s my take “wanna be tacticop Paul blart nobody with a ton of bias so take it with a grain of salt”. The perfect budget build. Rifle: IWI Zion 15. Optics: Vortex or Holosun Sling: WPS Sling Foregrip: BCM Gunfighter grip Light: Olight Odin Backup sights: Magpul I mean, IWI is just great in general. I have 2 Zion 15’s. 1 for personal 1 for professional. I have a couple vortex and Holosun optics, however If you had the money I would just go and buy a EO Tech tbh. The OLights are multi purpose tools, they function as both a light and a frag grenade.
@teebirderv8
@teebirderv8 Жыл бұрын
You could have totally did an aero precision build for $1200
@Baqization
@Baqization Жыл бұрын
I was waiting for this all over shot show.
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