The Ultimate Zwift Pain Cave - Home Gym Upgrade Plan

New pain cave is on the way!
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[@fglebocki]

3 things: 1. Noise - even if the hum of the bike, fans etc. is manageable, those bikes tend to cause some banging that spreads beyond the room immediately downstairs. 2. Temperature- it's going to get hot in that attic! Nothing you probably haven't already experienced in your garage though... 3. Is it really a pain "cave" if you're 20ft in the air? More aptly named a pain penthouse. It's basically a spa

[@syrus3k]

I'm the shed photo guy... We're finally moving to a new house with a 25sq metre garage... Can't wait 👍

[@6295607]

You are a freaking legend, man!

[@marcob2359]

@Let’s Go Brandon just meters, non square. They will move on a fence. Just a fence.

[@MarkLewisfitness]

Send in new pics, I’ll review the upgrade 🤣

[@JibbaJabber]

Forget the turbo, just build a mini velodrome 👍

[@halley4032]

Great content as always, looking forward to seeing the transformation. Had me reminiscing about MY teenage bedroom (back in the 1970s), a cheap wooden table that 'just' fit in the alcove, for studying, and a half knackered dining room chair. No bedroom TV back then, just a single TV in the lounge. Had an old 2nd hand mono record player, and posters of mostly Blondie, Cheryl Ladd (Charlie's Angels) and a World Map !! Simple times 🤣🤣

[@dobsy13]

Can’t wait to see it Mark. Thanks for the inspiration. Finally painted the bare concrete wall I’ve been staring at the last two years. Makes more difference than I’d of thought.

[@jontom7787]

I find you halarious, love your sense of humor!

[@markd.9538]

Its funny with home gyms - eventually you discover the most valuable thing you have in there is the space itself. Having some versatile free space is more important than filling it with any random doodad. I think you will have two really nice spaces once the changes are done 👍

[@dimitriyakovic1522]

Great idea with any decorations in the house having significance to you. "Motivational wall art" and whatnot always felt like a very empty thing to have around. Just filling up space for no reason. When I began to race bikes, I started putting up my bike numberplates and it is better than anything else. You wake up in the morning and front and center is a memory of the most fun you've had in your life. Great thing to have.

[@adrianbolton2391]

Rubber stable mats make great gym floors for houses - as really heavy and about 8x4 so perfect for going under a bike trainer. Absorb noise, vibrations and never wear out.

[@hunterarek]

Backing this up. Have them in a PT studio I work at. 7 years of dropping dumbbels, shuttle runs and all kinds of stuff and basically not a mark, Mark.

[@halley4032]

@@hunterarek Absolutely, I use them, 10 years worth of carnage, and even had one outside for a year or two, in all weathers, for jump rope/skipping ... not a mark. Very heavy, moving the things around is a workout in itself 🤪🤪

[@OGillo2001]

Sorry, are these mats for horses? Where can I get one from please>? (Trainer is on terrace adjacent to neighbours bedroom_) Thanks!

[@hywelroberts6280]

Best thing about garage pain caves in the UK is that most of the year it’s nice and cool in there (think Rocky 4 training montage). You might want an air conditioner now it’s inside - although everyone’s heating will presumably be off this year anyway.

[@adrianbolton2391]

I agree - modern house, loft room…. It’s going to be painfully hot. Being blasted from both sides with warm air won’t help performance. I moved out of an old draughty shed to a modern garden room, and even with the doors open it was too warm - to the point where you feel faint. I’ve now got aircon which also works as a dehumidifier & can be programmed. Much better!!

[@mathias8013]

Great! Looking forward to more Zwift content!

[@crb0n181]

Epic I can't wait to see some more zwift

[@jillbudd4901]

Love that you’re sooooo excited 😆

[@allisondavis6543]

You could use closet as a metal/trophy/work out clothes storage? Not laundry as could be forgotten in there and get funky. You totally inspired us to get our home gym sorted and ITS AMAZING. Thanks for the content.

[@tooloo]

Looks like a good room to fit a cheap 4k projector for Zwifting Mark! You may need to reattached that velux blind which is hanging off and black out the other window. Pull down ceiling mounted projector screen, and go Zwifting mega size 😎

[@nycbike73]

That’s what I did, my peloton is upstairs in my office and the weights and everything else are in the basement. Can’t wait to see you new setup.

[@nolanvini]

Nice Zwift colour coordination with that ceiling light!!!

[@vengermanu9375]

Just talking of convenience, I recently bought the Wahoo Kickr Rollr to replace my direct drive trainer. I've only got one road bike and when I've done my outdoor cycle it just goes straight back into the Rollr (literally 15 seconds to connect) and then I'm good to go for indoor cycling. I understand the drawbacks compared to a direct drive trainer e.g. tyre wear, slippage at high watts, could have got the standard kickr for less money etc. but I knew even not having to remove the back wheel to switch between outdoor and indoor cycling would have been enough to keep me on my bike 😀 No regrets

[@te_6852]

Can’t wait to see!

[@calb0]

Great Video Mark

[@juliana8113]

Very excited to see your stairs

[@mikecaseyoshea3594]

Looking forward to the transformation! You look like a kid getting his first own room! Currently sharing functional fitness space with kids playroom but that half is slowly dissolving muhahaha. You might not need 2x fans with 2 Windows open during a UK winter

[@clarabenton]

Brilliant! It will be ideal.

[@rob_carr]

I know you like the TV down low but if you're going for the pain cave to end all pain caves I'd consider getting a tripod projector screen placed as close to the wall with the radiator as possible and then look at getting an ultra short throw projector like the Optoma Cinemax P2 or Samsung Premiere. That way you've still got the TV in the garage for the road bike Kickr and then upstairs you've got 100" - 120" of ultimate Zwift immersion. Love the "no stuff on the walls unless we made it" rule, I'm going to incorporate that into my life going forward.

[@TheVikingProject]

I’ve got a contractor coming over soon to get rid of the wooden shed and build a 30sq meter stone version for my paincave / KZbin studio. Going all in baby! Good tips welcome, if you ever do another paincave review I’ll show my current one 😂

[@htownblue11]

“1 and 3…don’t ask you’ll complicate matters…”🤣😂😂🤣. Congrats on the pain cave procurement. You might consider hooking a genny up to that bike if the UK energy prices keep hiking like an above average fitness KZbinr on a 100 kilo race.

[@chrisnolan4048]

This opening was what i needed to start the day. I just openly laughed out loud to that intro to the clip. Not 46 seconds in

[@mot0s896]

A pain cave 😍 i have to build up everything everytime in the living room. Take the bike from the wall and put it on the trainer just for zwift but i love each km on the virtual roads

[@AnHourOfWolves]

Love this. Especially the sleeping haha

[@DeanPattrick]

I'm going to have a whole room of motivational wall art 🤣 that would have been a funny start 😁

[@seanmole8134]

So basically as the kids move on, the house is slowly transformed into a studio. Good on you. And the little soundbite teaser at the very end, brilliant. I know you have a penchant for adventure bikes, but I'm predicting a new Harley. Perhaps a forty-eight?

[@MarkLewisfitness]

No - but I did test ride a Fat Bob - a lot of fun actually!

[@thomasoakley4833]

"But... It might end up being a Rocky IV poster" had me in stitches 🤣🤣

[@4x4quadbike]

Cool..... maybe an extractor fan for winter month's... ther is cool quiet ones available.. or just open the windows ... id do a rubber flooring like whats in ur garage, whatever ye do it'll be a cool setup, all the best with the project. 😁

[@darrengarvie8832]

A nice project to do 😁

[@MWRent]

Looking fwd to more cycling content 👍👍👍

[@philiproberts6947]

A Krispy Kreme cabinet would look fantastic where the TV used to be in the garage.

[@Jono01]

Sounds like an exciting project Mark. Have you thought about organising a Zwift group ride?

[@hulkthedane7542]

"It is going to be cold soon...".... oh yee of little Faith 😂😂😂. I train outdoors all year round. Kettlebells get COLD handles at -5 °C! ...and gloves are a no go with kettlebells. Dress apropriately and work yourself warm 👍👍👍👍. Enjoy - I would love having an indoor room for training, but that is just not possible. I make do with a few square metres in the shed and a few square metres under a half roof next to it. Luckily I am fond of outdoor training.

[@TadeuszCantwell]

Lol the head hit off the lamp. Know that feeling. 😛

[@FPL_Drago]

Your garage story is my garage story. Watching this has made me write down 'Prep garage for bike'. A job for tomorrow. Below it on the list though is 'Watch Netflix'. I'll let you know how I get on...

[@MarkLewisfitness]

Garage before garbage 😁

[@dpwr96]

For lighting l e d strips are really easy to hang and won’t hinder head space. A pull out squat rack would be a great replacement for current wahoo bike set up. REP Fitness new SSB and Trap bar are great strength tools. BIG farmers carry walks on the driveway!!!

[@MarkLewisfitness]

Trouble is gym is so close it’s hard to justify a rack

[@queleth536]

I'm missing the dolby surround speaker system that will be playing all this 70's and 80's moviesongs ;) sounds like good plans!

[@Davoudi]

Congratz! My 2 will probably move in about.... 20 years. But I am patience...

[@MarkLewisfitness]

Hang in there

[@jamespostance8239]

I think you and Jen should dress up an recreate a rocky iconic moment or cast a shadow of you punching each other on to the wall.

[@RodinAustin]

Thanks!

[@MarkLewisfitness]

🙏 🙏 🙏 Thank you!

[@borosmilan]

Greetings from Budapest :)

[@alexbrasher5395]

Just started the video... better be a montage showing the transformation!!

[@danmartin9086]

Pro tip: mount your TV at eye height, it better encourages good form cycling. Stopped getting back ache when I lifted mine

[@derx6666]

Aircon !! In the summer a room can get very hot very quickly

[@sandythomson7212]

Get a fan pointing at your back if you can. Big surface = effective cooling

[@LtStewie]

Can’t wait Mark. You’ll have no excuse not to do the Everest challenge now 😂

[@MarkLewisfitness]

Always an excuse not to do that 😆

[@sigfreed11]

Would love to see the update!

[@oneworldfamily]

Ha ha!! Brilliant! Filming while he's still in bed. Wouldn't have realised he was there if he hadn't spoken up 😀 Also, hats off to you, Mark, for doing your training at 8pm. You must have great energy control through the day. If I haven't done my training by midday, it ain't gonna happen! Last winter I was running at 6.30am with a head torch (no street lights out here).

[@brycehicks2816]

Is it worth having a rear fan that’s fixed to the ceiling.

[@mikew6840]

Being a single dad means I can have my Kickr in front of the main telly in the lounge 😆. Gotta have some perks…

[@duncanhamilton5841]

I've bought too many shiny things for my garage gym, and its now too crowded. I'm also spoilt for choice with things to do, Need to have a cull before winter I think, get some focus and motivation back.

[@lockstock212]

Try your trainer on the floor on mats see how bad the vibration is first before you do the hole room conversion , my wood ceiling joist vibrated like mad , i didn't think it was to bad , till you heard it in the room below ( one unhappy wife (shame) .

[@brent_f]

The “Rocky” poster should be on the ceiling. That way when you’re on the floor, after a hard session, you can look up for inspiration.

[@wallsend_wildcamper]

I was planning on putting a turbo trainer in the garage so i can ride through winter and i was thinking the garage being cold would be a good thing as once upto speed i will be to hot anyway. Is this a daft theory?

[@yorgosk2938]

That must be the tidiest teenager room I have ever seen. Admit it Mark, you had to throw those things on the floor to make it look a tad untidy, right? I've been with your channel for a while, I always start watching for the motivation, I stay for the humour. This was a very nice unscripted video.

[@MarkLewisfitness]

They aren’t allowed messy rooms. 👍🏼. My house my rules 😁

[@yorgosk2938]

@@MarkLewisfitness As it should be on both counts. Thank you for replying to my message.

[@johnnycleary5369]

Are you sure you will have enough head clearance when you are standing on the bike, it looks pretty close? Totally agree you want it as inviting as possible👍

[@PanteraDeNoche]

The only motivational poster I need is your podium pic.

[@MarkLewisfitness]

Print it life size 🤣

[@arferbargel]

Desperately hoping that Squier connects with a stand during the trip across the hall.

[@B4G-B4G]

In the loft!!! Sweat fest🥵

[@DarenC]

Which part of the house is it above? Have you thought about noise or vibrations through the floor? Mind you, I suppose the gym matting will take care of most of that

[@MarkLewisfitness]

It’s directly above my own bedroom so no real issues.

[@hellomark1]

Excited to watch the upgrades happen! Could you fit two Kickr bikes in there, to "ride" with Jen? Or does she have any interest in doing that?

[@MarkLewisfitness]

She is not a fan!

[@tambobiscuits165]

If you want more immersion on Zwift then, and hear me out, get rid of the bike you have and get the Kickr V6 with the climber and put your outdoor bike on it. The climber is amazing and cause you use your outdoor bike you get even more practice on it for when you ride outside. I get that the bike you have is top end and much more expensive then the set up I'm suggesting but the climber mate, the climber - makes all the difference for immersion in Zwift.

[@MarkLewisfitness]

The bike tilts already

[@tambobiscuits165]

Yes I did a bit of a marathon of some of your stuff after watching the above (as I'm new to your channel) and I now realize that you know more, a lot more, then me about Zwift setups. My Lewis Learning has begun so to speak. Thanks mate. @@MarkLewisfitness

[@EricB03]

Hue gradient strip to get the most out of your zwift riding. I have one for my main tv and amazing

[@MarkLewisfitness]

We have hue - What does the gradient strip do?

[@EricB03]

@@MarkLewisfitness gradient strip attaches to back of tv, then to sync box and hdmi hue switch. Attach to apple tv and changes with the background. Old video by Shane but like this kzbin.info/www/bejne/l4GTq6OmbsiflZo

[@wk633]

My medals are in the back of the sock drawer. Maybe I should put them in the box in the garage that has the velcro beach toys...

[@wk633]

Oh! Or I could use them to tie the hedge trimmer in place!

[@BlackTelephoneGrey]

Any "rating pain cave" vids coming up? Those were hilarious!

[@MarkLewisfitness]

Next week!!!!

[@Paulkatz123]

Envious haha!

[@Wilson3412]

“Nothing on the wall other than stuff we’ve done” apart from an empty frame

[@richardmorrissey4289]

Get a dehumidifier, so when you fall on the floor after your ride and the sweat is running off you, it won't end up running down the walls too. [Cuts to Maverick saying "Slider, [sniff sniff] you stink"].

[@authserv]

Is that basketball net staying? or does one have to return one library book 😏

[@razorcat1370]

Is the setup done yet? Looking forward to see it, anytime soon?

[@MarkLewisfitness]

Yep. Coming soon!

[@damiancheaterable]

Have I missed something? Where are all the bikes from the garage? Have you sold the Aero Bike? Also….you mentioned in a previous video that a road bike is on its way. Must say I’ve been surprised you haven’t bought a gravel bike yet….given you like to run the trails.

[@MarkLewisfitness]

Bikes are stored in various spots around the place! Gravel bike is very tempting - just not sure it would be much fun on the road where most of my cycling will be done.

[@rodp7803]

Looks great but here are two concerns I have...1-Rooms with those slanted roof ceilings can be really hard to climate control (probably less of a concern in England. 2-Your family downstairs may complain of noise from the bike and fans, uninsulated floors have a way of amplifying this sort of kit.

[@darkflamejam]

What happened to the space ship?

[@syrus3k]

You probably want aircon for sure.. After the summer we just had without it you won't be zwifting in there

[@leedixon2113]

when are we going to see the new pain cave then? can't be too far off now can it? could have built a house in 4 months ;-)

[@MarkLewisfitness]

Kid moved out yesterday!!! All systems go!

[@leedixon2113]

@@MarkLewisfitness Yessss, get in! looking forwards to it 👍

[@samuelandrew4500]

3:04 literally biting my nails as you said that 😢

[@MarkLewisfitness]

Put some gloves on 😆

[@AndrewHilseberg]

are you worried about getting cooked by the radiator in the winter being so close to it?

[@MarkLewisfitness]

No. I turn it off 😂

[@russellstewart5165]

I no hope to see a return of the 701 enduro….. been long waiting. Maybe a tenere 700? Been a subscriber from the start.

[@MarkLewisfitness]

Not a 701. I have bought the bike I have hated for years and promised myself I would never get 😆

[@russellstewart5165]

@@MarkLewisfitness Honda c90 🙏🏼

[@andy_ppp]

Have you upgraded your video camera?

[@MarkLewisfitness]

Since those early videos

[@markcarpenter4175]

Floor loadings OK?

[@jarydanderson1400]

I'm still not sure if it's "wall balls" or "war balls" 🤔

[@DaemonViews]

Just noticed those road bikes are indeed gone. Where did you find room for those?

[@MarkLewisfitness]

Careful planning of space!

[@DaemonViews]

@@MarkLewisfitness so they are in the shed xd

[@MarkLewisfitness]

@@DaemonViews nothing so simple!

[@dogsdangelies1]

Air con is a must, top of the house is hot 🥵

[@BrutusTheUgly]

What about the noise? I put my trainer in my "room" -> office hoping to jump on my bike late at night when my work is done and my wife is sleeping. The problem is the noise, even if I m not gasping for air or shouting during a sprint, my wife next door cannot sleep due to the bike + trainer noise. During the night the all house can hear the noise.

[@MarkLewisfitness]

Room below is our bedroom and I would never cycle at night so should be good

[@60KoMfast]

Agree totally got to make it easy my turbo permanent set up so up & go less 10 minutes. However noise do not underestimate, my turbo in loft above Kitchen & our TV room. There is still lots of noise transmission through house especially on hard floor. Keep carpet & rubber mat deaden noise. Good luck getting family compromise on no impact to them of new pain cave😀👍.

[@danmartin9086]

One trick is to just use erg mode at night. It's the gears changes that make most of the noise assuming you have a decent mat

[@jamesg1501]

What brand is that black tshirt please?

[@MarkLewisfitness]

tailored athlete.

[@jamesg1501]

@@MarkLewisfitness i must purchase, thanks👍

[@MadChopz]

You should consider building a nice PC for Zwift so you can have the best graphics the game has available, your laptop most likely gets the basic level of detail. Now that you have a more dedicated space, time to upgrade to something that can handle the ultra graphics profile on Zwift.

[@neilbuckley5796]

You can Zwift pretty strongly on a macbook. Be interesting how Apple silicon takes it.

[@MadChopz]

@@neilbuckley5796 Zwift still gives the M1 chips in MacBooks the basic graphic detail level. You can tell in Mark's footage that he doesn't have rider shadows and it is low detail. A PC with a decent video card that can run the ultra graphics detail looks way better!

[@neilbuckley5796]

@@MadChopz For sure, I am glad that it doesn't need anything more than a laptop as I travel a lot and Zwift is my saviour, I'd be screwed if it needed a powerful graphics card as my laptop runs it nicely as it is, granted not in 4k, I presume I cannot update anything (well cost effectively anyhow) to get that.

[@Mr_Blogberry]

Hang on, is Nixon allowed upstairs in the bedrooms? If not, how will you race without him on your back?!

[@MarkLewisfitness]

Nixon goes where he likes

[@jimjamthebananaman1]

@@MarkLewisfitness Nixon owns the house. Jen and mark just simply rent it from him

[@grennangoeshiking]

Instead of a couch you should put in a climbing wall.

[@bravehartley]

The tidiest teenagers bedroom ever.

[@garydaniels4934]

Pose as Rocky and get photos done. Problem solved.... 😀

[@DicksonMaimouth]

Stripper pole and a strobe light? 🤷🏽‍♂

[@cmarnold78]

What happened to all your real bikes?

[@MarkLewisfitness]

Stored around the house

[@shanewilliams247]

I was wondering half way though the video, where the hell are his kids going? 🤣. I've got 4 kids and a 4bd house, 2 of the kids keep complaining about having to share a room. I just need my eldest 13 to b hurry up and move out

[@Foxtrottangoabc]

I think the garage looks more like a Rocky Gym 🤔 💪

[@MarkLewisfitness]

I wish it did 😁

[@stephaniemillar]

What? No His & Hers SkiErg?

[@tripplethicc626]

you sound like gordan ramsy 😂😂