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Mr. Bones 40k

Mr. Bones 40k

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@rakedetheron2353
@rakedetheron2353 Жыл бұрын
7:55 as a big Emperor’s Children and Fulgrim fan, referring him to “That fucking twink” is both accurate and hilarious
@akumaking1
@akumaking1 Жыл бұрын
In a AI-voice generated video somewhere Lion El’Johnson also called Fulgrim a twink
@robouteguilliman7628
@robouteguilliman7628 Жыл бұрын
That Heritic only deserves the name, That Fucking Twink
@Danno_87
@Danno_87 Жыл бұрын
Ive just recently read the fulgrim book. And dang. They are my new favorite traitor legion.
@flaviomonteiro1414
@flaviomonteiro1414 Жыл бұрын
​@@Danno_87But he's still a twink 😂
@mr.ashenfire2624
@mr.ashenfire2624 10 ай бұрын
​@Danno_87 found it interesting that in the Great Crusade they purposely avoided recruiting Psykers because their instability interfered with their pursuit of perfection.
@khazngray
@khazngray Жыл бұрын
Ill say this; if space marines were real, Ultramarines are one of the few we'd be comfortable having around
@stratigangames508
@stratigangames508 Жыл бұрын
I'd hug a Salamander.
@Dimitriterrorman
@Dimitriterrorman Жыл бұрын
@@stratigangames508 idk they are black like coal and their eyes are bright red thats preety creepy
@stratigangames508
@stratigangames508 Жыл бұрын
@@Dimitriterrorman Don't judge a book by its cover.
@connormclernon26
@connormclernon26 Жыл бұрын
Let’s see, if we’re going by Legion and not individual Chapters prior to the Heresy. 1. No 3. Hell no. Even without the Slaaneshi connection, they were uptight elitists prior to turning to Chaos 4. No, I do not wish to be more meat in the grinder. 5. Maybe. I do enjoy poetry 6. Depends on if they try to make me drink Fenrisian Ale 7. Maybe 8. Oh Hell to the F*ck NO! 9. So long as they could control their Red Thirst, sure. 10. Eh. 12. No. 13. Sure 14. I like my guts inside and not festering with maggots. 15. Prior to Chaos I think I would enjoy being around them 16. Eh 17. I’m not an Emperor Botherer, so they would shun me as a Heretic 18. Definitely, though I’m sure my spine would shatter upon the very concept 19. Maybe 20. ???
@Guardsman-sy8qm
@Guardsman-sy8qm Жыл бұрын
Eh, some Ultramarines, yes. Other's, no. Slamanders would be perfect.
@Itjustdavid
@Itjustdavid Жыл бұрын
Ultra marines and gulliman are the reason why i got into 40k and now that im making my ultramarine army you will be qpart of it
@mitrion301
@mitrion301 Жыл бұрын
Happy to hear that
@isaiahaguilera7710
@isaiahaguilera7710 Жыл бұрын
We march for Maccrage!
@Lostlimbs91
@Lostlimbs91 Жыл бұрын
Im researching 40k lore as I write this. Ultramarines have been an interest for me since the start. Might be my first army. 😂
@Interrobang212
@Interrobang212 Жыл бұрын
The ultramarines are also really the only chapter that does everything a space marine is supposed to do. They are, by DESIGN, in and out of lore, the example that others have to measure against. Everyone else has a particular focus and/ or weakness drawing away from the space marine core.
@mr.ashenfire2624
@mr.ashenfire2624 10 ай бұрын
They are the material average. They do not really excel or exceed any other legion in anything beyond how ridiculously organized and regimented they are. They value merit over seniority as well.
@sonicsucks20
@sonicsucks20 5 ай бұрын
Dude literally just said they Excell at self-management adaptability and logistical combat warfare. They are the literally ace military men marines.
@oniemployee3437
@oniemployee3437 Жыл бұрын
Ultra marines are cool in their own way, just like the Dark Angels and White Scars. Its just that they're the most common and face of the company.
@pedropierre9594
@pedropierre9594 Жыл бұрын
And thats for a reason, because they are pretty based
@un0riginal539
@un0riginal539 Жыл бұрын
White scars are cool in every way
@Agustin-1991
@Agustin-1991 Жыл бұрын
@@pedropierre9594 That's not the reason, they picked one back at 2nd edition to make the baseline for all chapters, it could've been anyone of the original legions and after that, due to them being the space marine chapter that gets bought the most, then you have the business ideal combo, there is demand for a product why change any of it if it sells? that's the smurfs, but it could've been any other chapter. But due to this, they suffer not just a justified hate, but lore and story wise they also suffer due to GW pushing them into everything and everywhere at the same time for the setting of the universe.
@conradlorgar5508
@conradlorgar5508 Жыл бұрын
​@@Agustin-1991it's a demand almost entirely perpetuated by being the default poster child of 40k to the point where lore began to wank them off especially during the Matt ward era Just like the flavour of vanilla being the most popular isnt just coincidentally the most advertised and the most stocked especially when its presented as the default flavour If I Google space marines, it will default to ultramarines Its supply and demand but when you advertise the supply as almost entirely one thing so new customers are going to demand that one thing then acting as if it's out of your hands is just silly
@Iijjccbb
@Iijjccbb Жыл бұрын
At the end of the day, guilliman is a bureaucrat. A competent one, and that is what makes him incredibly dangerous.
@kapitan19969838
@kapitan19969838 5 ай бұрын
​@Tigran-Abazyan Nothing You said is true
@rorycampbell7490
@rorycampbell7490 Жыл бұрын
Their divergent successor chapters only prove their adaptability due to location and experience. If anything the reason why the iron snakes have a broken down structure is due to them recognising their responsibility of guarding the reef stars logistically and tactically.
@PandorasFolly
@PandorasFolly Жыл бұрын
A very good point. One of my favorite fan theories is that the Ultramarines and Imperial Fists "weirdo" chapters are actually all marines descended from the two lost legions that were integrated into the legion during the later half of the great crusade.
@davidfrancisco3502
@davidfrancisco3502 Жыл бұрын
The Iron Snakes and Silver Skulls aren't theorized to be descendants of loyalist Iron Warriors who joined the Ultramarines during the Horus Heresy?
@Sara3346
@Sara3346 Жыл бұрын
@@davidfrancisco3502 Silver Skulls probably, iron snakes not very likely from what I can tell.
@davidfrancisco3502
@davidfrancisco3502 Жыл бұрын
@@Sara3346 And don't forget some of the 2nd founding alleged Ultramarine chapters that actually may be descendants of marines from the II & XI legions in the same way the Soul Drinkers were believed to be Imperial Fists descendants despite their gene seed had nothing to do with Rogal Dorn's lineage.
@sunset7424
@sunset7424 Жыл бұрын
It's because they're written that way🤨🤨🤨🤨
@BarelyDecentProduction
@BarelyDecentProduction Жыл бұрын
I heard that during the early days of G-man was reunited with his legion, his momma was also busy making sure the space marine are cleaning their barracks, armors etc etc
@minhducnguyen9276
@minhducnguyen9276 2 ай бұрын
There's a story of workers on Ultramar complaining about having to work in toxic environments without protective gears and the tech priest in charge waved them off. So they filed the complaint to the Ultramarine in charge and he came down and told the tech priest that if the next day he came there and still didn't see protection gears the tech priest would get replaced.
@Scrombo2
@Scrombo2 Жыл бұрын
9:17 as a Salamander simp I just want everyone to have a seat at the table, Space Marine 1 is one of my favorite games basically ever, Captain Titus is a grade A++ badass, Matt Ward hasn't worked at GW for YEARs now and yeah, Ultra depression is pretty damn funny, I got no problem with Rowboats boys
@Meatus4514
@Meatus4514 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the fact you've organised these in order of legion
@kjf5212
@kjf5212 Жыл бұрын
I just want to hear him lose his shit over the Alpha legion
@kamiwriterleonardo6345
@kamiwriterleonardo6345 Жыл бұрын
You know what would make this video better? *PUTTING THE ULTRAMARINES CHANT FROM CHAOS GATE AS THE BACKGROUND MUSIC*
@thierryfaquet7405
@thierryfaquet7405 Жыл бұрын
Ultramarines may be bland. But if space marines were real in our world you better want them to be like this legion.
@Ahriman_362
@Ahriman_362 Жыл бұрын
Or Salamanders but please no dark angels or flesh tearers
@DrPepper_V1
@DrPepper_V1 Жыл бұрын
​@joshuagraham6933 Salamanders and Ultramarines are the only ones who give a shit about people. So you can't go wrong with either
@mr.ashenfire2624
@mr.ashenfire2624 10 ай бұрын
Blood Angels could be fun too. Imagine Blood Angels Bob Ross leading a painting class
@reasonableguy9090
@reasonableguy9090 6 ай бұрын
And the Red Thirst, NO-ONE would be happy and laughing then. If they actually existed around us, the Ultras may be a little focused and arrogant, but if a Tyranid attacks, they’d have our backs!
@phnexOice
@phnexOice Жыл бұрын
The ultramarines also have the advantage of being Roman themed, which is kick ass
@Ring_student_yin_sang
@Ring_student_yin_sang Жыл бұрын
And very fitting
@davidfrancisco3502
@davidfrancisco3502 Жыл бұрын
Angron's home planet was a roman themed planet too.
@Ring_student_yin_sang
@Ring_student_yin_sang Жыл бұрын
@@davidfrancisco3502 yeah but the dark side of the Roman civilization
@davidfrancisco3502
@davidfrancisco3502 Жыл бұрын
@@Ring_student_yin_sang And ironically actual roman gladiators were mostly free men who became gladiators as a profession. They were like wrestlers of the WWE: it was performative, scripted and it had sponsors.
@Ring_student_yin_sang
@Ring_student_yin_sang Жыл бұрын
@@davidfrancisco3502 I forgot about that but It's just because of the kind of roman like planet angron ended up
@meatilicious1900
@meatilicious1900 Жыл бұрын
"Do they still have that fucking toilet seat as their insignia?" -TTS emperor
@robouteguilliman7628
@robouteguilliman7628 Жыл бұрын
Yes we do, and I'm keeping it, simply because it has lasted throughout ages and is as recognisable as other 1st founding loyalists
@minhducnguyen9276
@minhducnguyen9276 2 ай бұрын
​@@robouteguilliman7628 Laugh all they want but the toilet is one of the most impactful inventions in human history and the Roman empire was the first to have public toilets. Having running water is what keeps Nurgle away from the realms of Ultramar.
@barlotardy
@barlotardy Жыл бұрын
Hey now, go easy on the HammerFuckers! Malleus Fornicus is a hard but fair chapter master who can pound any foe into submission.
@sars910
@sars910 Жыл бұрын
Malleus Fornicus has a MASSIVE and GIRTHY chainsword and a boltgun that fires HUGE loads.
@moriskurth628
@moriskurth628 11 ай бұрын
Love how in the novel that introduced him, "The Piercing Thrust", Fornicus, with his great Thunderhamner, defeated an Eldar Wraithlord so hard that, after it was dragged off of the battlefield once the Imperials pulled out, the Bonesinger trying to repair it lamented it will take centuries until she can walk again. I also love how the author managed to make the Wraithlord an entertaining character, as she starts the novel as this arrogant, kinda spiteful woman (like you expect Eldar to be), but, over time, ends it respecting the Hammerfuckers as worthy opponents after Malleus gave her a thorough hammering.
@aguspuig6615
@aguspuig6615 Жыл бұрын
i feel like a loyalist emperors children would have much in common to the ultramarines, their objective to be perfect at everything would probably leave them at a symilar spot to the ultrtamarines, quite good at most things, maybe with the ocasional outlier thats the best of the best at one thing or two
@RattusMannus
@RattusMannus Жыл бұрын
>tfw the Emperor's Children are traitorous Ultramrines
@chrisroberts7000
@chrisroberts7000 Жыл бұрын
I loved the Theoretical and Practical bits from the Ultramarines. Making a formal tradition out of giving your plans and intentions a thorough reality check. Then, when all of the intellectual work is done, wading into battle with dual power fists, punching heads off and caving chests in.
@michaelfranciotti3900
@michaelfranciotti3900 8 ай бұрын
"Amateurs talk tactics, professionals talk logistics." General Omar Bradley
@The_Rage_Kage
@The_Rage_Kage Жыл бұрын
"Roboute Guilliman is a mommas boy. And an entitled brat." -Lion 'El Johnson
@Danno_87
@Danno_87 Жыл бұрын
The ultramarines are what got me into warhammer over 15 years ago, and they are still my favorite chapter. Ive come to love other chapters as well. But the boys in blue will always be my favorite.
@MikeSpicyWinner
@MikeSpicyWinner Жыл бұрын
When I first got into Warhammer in 2020, the fist mini I painted was an assault intersessor as an Ultramarine due to lack of knowledge of other legions and only having the starter paint set. I didn’t realize at the time how much people loved to hate on them. It kind of made me double down on loving them.
@11jerans
@11jerans Жыл бұрын
Same. The amount of people who have tried to make me hate them has only made me cling to them harder and love them more.
@johndb1860
@johndb1860 Жыл бұрын
That's the same reason I chose them as my first force as well. Except I did it in the middle of the matt ward era 😆. Nothing wrong with a dependable workhorse in and out of lore.
@bvdemier1
@bvdemier1 Жыл бұрын
It has to be said that Mr. Bones came into 40k after Know No Fear. It can not be said enough that Abnett personally reworked and redeemed the Ultras and Bobby in that book. I remember the times before that. I remember the Fall of Damnos where the Necrons handed the Ultras a defeat. It was pretty well written and everybody seemed to like it. But having the Ultra's lose was something GWS could not allow, so the Ultra's went back and defeated an awakened necron tombworld, because screw you that's why. Remember that whole joke of Calgar killing necron's with a AA-battery? That is something that happend in that book. So when Abnett came along and wrote Know No Fear where the Ultra's lost massive amounts of troops in the betrayal at Calth, that was something worth reading.
@ExValeFor
@ExValeFor Жыл бұрын
Truth and facts. A lot of the seething hatred - which I share - is from the dark times when GW would give them the most bullshit wins that totally invalidate mr bones' whole tirade on 'jack of all trades master of none'. Fortunately all is canon but nothing is true so you can tolerate ultramarines if you just pretend those times didn't happen lol
@gnarl12
@gnarl12 Жыл бұрын
Yeah
@sonicsucks20
@sonicsucks20 Жыл бұрын
I don't care what you say, theres losing and there's being a failure of a so called revered faction of a chapter being known for being the greatest. That's the problem I have with the black legion and possibly the iron hands. I just don't like long string loser heroes in my fiction
@aarovit4257
@aarovit4257 Жыл бұрын
Calls Blood Angels mid Calls Ultramarines great You are on thin line… and I’m with you on the same line
@stratigangames508
@stratigangames508 Жыл бұрын
Same. My list goes: 1. Salamanders 2. White Scars 3.Ultramarines 4. Imperial Fists 5. Iron Hands 6. Space Wolves 7. Raven Guard 8. Dark Angels 9. Blood Angels
@nicholasashton768
@nicholasashton768 Жыл бұрын
​@@stratigangames508 list is wrong!
@connormclernon26
@connormclernon26 Жыл бұрын
@@stratigangames508swap the Iron hands with the blood angels and I’d agree
@cheber817
@cheber817 9 ай бұрын
@@stratigangames508 what kind of crack do you have too snort too put white scars up there
@stratigangames508
@stratigangames508 9 ай бұрын
@@cheber817 Because they're cool? Because Jaghatai is a gigachad? Because I enjoy how level headed they are despite their insane way of war?
@s.amacintyre1440
@s.amacintyre1440 Жыл бұрын
I loved that gas station bit. If you like 40k and live somewhere like nova scotia you just have to chuckle at that
@locomotivevoice
@locomotivevoice Жыл бұрын
"Bendable enough to adapt to situations" Meanwhile: "STOP, THE CODEX ASTARTES DOES NOT SUPPORT THIS ACTION"
@Someone_Important
@Someone_Important Жыл бұрын
Maturity is when you realized the Ultramarines are pretty based
@yellows5685
@yellows5685 Жыл бұрын
No🗿
@macksryanhold
@macksryanhold Жыл бұрын
Reject Maturity I say!
@theoverpreparerlamenters3r436
@theoverpreparerlamenters3r436 Жыл бұрын
Most of them, yeah.
@meager992
@meager992 Жыл бұрын
Nah
@tarreth
@tarreth Жыл бұрын
Sagehood is getting tired of certain established canons.
@codyconnor6981
@codyconnor6981 Жыл бұрын
The reason I like the Ultramarines and Guillimon so much is because they were one of the few factions that truly understood what it took to build and maintain an empire.
@KevinoftheCosmos
@KevinoftheCosmos 2 ай бұрын
I can't help it that Captain Titus got me into 40k, Guilliman is my favorite primarch, Ultramarines have the most units, and blue is my favorite color to paint. Come at me, neckbeards.
@ElGordoBandito
@ElGordoBandito 11 ай бұрын
Ultramarines are also one of the easiest armies to paint, which makes it both easy to raise a large force to battle ready status quickly, but also make them look pretty decent at the same time, even with minimal painting skills.
@FyruHawk
@FyruHawk Жыл бұрын
Since (so far) I'm only a hobbyist, and since I'm still very inexperienced with the hobby, ultramarines are my main army since what got me into warhammer in the first place was my local games shop, which let people play video games for like 10$ an hour hence why my parents brought young me there in the first place, got a giant cutout of an ultramarine when 8th edition came out which was on display right in front of the small staircase right as you walked in. seeing this gigantic space marine that looked both futuristic yet ancient at the same time for like two years is what made me a fan. getting my first "start painting" set made me realize that this hobby was for me, and when looking into the lore further I did genuinely like what the ultramarines were all about. learning about the fandom's general attitude towards ultras did make me a bit sad at first since I was new, but now I don''t care anymore, and I've even come to like the "their Primarch's name is Rodent Guillotine" memes. plus, it does help that I'm a basic bitch who almost always likes the default options the most, or at least a slightly cooler looking version of the default option (hell my character in dark souls 3 is almost always just some normal knight looking bitch, and in Doom Eternal I almost always use the the default slayer suit.)
@myself2noone
@myself2noone Жыл бұрын
I like them. 40k at its best is a story about raging against the dying of the light if you ask me. (Rylanor's last stand anyone?) And most of the Ultramarine stories I have read are a lot like that. Hell thats what Ultramar kind of is. As you mentioned characters like Ventrus have virtues they stand for even in a setting where everything seems to keep getting worse. Duty seems to be the word of the day for them. Besides there a realistic depiction of what you would want a super soldier to be like. Above good at war they seem to be just good citizens.
@NotoriousTim
@NotoriousTim Жыл бұрын
Salamanders are my favorite, but I do love me the Ultramarines, I have a fondness for generalists in gaming and stories.
@Drunkle2552
@Drunkle2552 Жыл бұрын
I think the chapter that can compete ultramarines in terms of common sense and logistics are the raven gaurd successors, raptors.
@Evohunter7
@Evohunter7 Жыл бұрын
Love it! HH Know No Fear is my favourite book. I’m a Flesh Tearer by nature, but I do love the boys in blue. If I had more patience, I’d play them.
@An_Owl_named_VIPER
@An_Owl_named_VIPER Жыл бұрын
another great addition to the legion playlist hydra dominatus
@jeanderai-g5w
@jeanderai-g5w Жыл бұрын
Bro its kinda sus
@billysidness5907
@billysidness5907 Жыл бұрын
This is a lie...
@jeanderai-g5w
@jeanderai-g5w Жыл бұрын
@@billysidness5907 i hope so
@nooneatall1830
@nooneatall1830 Жыл бұрын
Indeed, Hydra Dominatus
@An_Owl_named_VIPER
@An_Owl_named_VIPER Жыл бұрын
@Just Vibing we are both alpharius
@pedropierre9594
@pedropierre9594 Жыл бұрын
The Ultrachadnicus Marinus
@shadowarrows5996
@shadowarrows5996 2 ай бұрын
Came here to figure out why the ultramarines are always the focal point for warhammer 40000k universe. Learned about Titus. And now i get it. Thumbs up my guy.
@nick0875
@nick0875 Жыл бұрын
I can't look at the Ultramarines and not hear TTS' voice for Cato Sicarius so I struggle to take them seriously.
@cncmne7404
@cncmne7404 Жыл бұрын
This is why i am subbed to you. You take the piss on all those fans that look at 40k through memes and make them fuming when you defend something that anyone without a cool head and grounded look cant understand.
@N0TYALC
@N0TYALC Жыл бұрын
I really do like the idea of warriors who are dominant because of logistics. Such an enormous part of war that fiction seems intent on ignoring for the most part. If the 20 legions were real, it would likely be the one which focused on stuff like logistics who end up as a powerhouse.
@fluffywolfo3663
@fluffywolfo3663 Жыл бұрын
Just think - 6-8 years ago, saying this would’ve been ultraheresy lol I really feel caught off guard by how much I found myself liking Guilliman, as someone who grew up in the “spiritual liege” era
@ExValeFor
@ExValeFor Жыл бұрын
The smurfs had a massive glow up since then - or rather, GW stopped with the most egregious trends they'd been pumping them with
@Kai_Tsar
@Kai_Tsar Жыл бұрын
i would say the Ultramarines biggest plus is the flexibility of troops and administration. when a problem comes up the Ultramarines are almost certain to lose when you use a specialty fighting style against them but the second fight you will only just get away with your life and for the third not even the god emperor himself can save you. they are the quickest to learn from mistakes of all the legions/chapters. when they have a foot in the door for all aspects of war its not hard to open it further depending on the situation.
@tomekm1804
@tomekm1804 10 ай бұрын
I like Ultramarines the most, because they're the only legion / chapter that is actual, coherent military unit, not wet dream of 14yo metalhead.
@danielhall6354
@danielhall6354 Жыл бұрын
I didn't think much of the Ultramarines until i read 'know no fear' and now i love them
@jessesenpai6473
@jessesenpai6473 5 ай бұрын
they look dope specially that guy with the halo looking thing and flaming sword if there suits were black and grey that would be even better
@toddregnier4966
@toddregnier4966 Ай бұрын
Watching episode three of the Tithes series really hammered home how crucial logistics are to the Imperium. They have so many resources, if they could just deploy where they needed to be with perfect timing and efficiency, they could win every battle.
@ThuleHammer
@ThuleHammer Жыл бұрын
Did my ass just get womp womped at the end of the video, or is my hearing going?
@TheBoneZone40k
@TheBoneZone40k Жыл бұрын
;)
@alejandrosandoval7325
@alejandrosandoval7325 5 ай бұрын
I like them because of the versatility in the tabletop: a lot of miniatures leads to a lot of types of armies you can make
@sugarcombfilms3467
@sugarcombfilms3467 Жыл бұрын
This video is also why I love the Dark Angels. Just swap out Roman aesthetic for knightly aesthetic and go from perfectionist diplomats to arrogant schizios and you have yourself a pretty cool, balanced, powerful legi- I mean CHAPTER. They're a TOTALLY CODEX COMPLIANT CHAPTER, NOTHING TO SEE, MOVE ALONG!
@erih2934
@erih2934 11 ай бұрын
To me it always feels like the Ultramarines claim military to be everything the first legion actually was. And Roboute pretty much shows his jealousy when he meets the Lion in HH. Biggest difference being DA don't give a fuck about perception, Ultras are all about statemenship. The whole Codex Astartes is nothing more than Roboute's vanity project forced down the throat of everybody, while the DA actually definited the basis for SM-warefare in every regard, by doing everything first and paying the blood price.
@400KrispyKremes
@400KrispyKremes 9 ай бұрын
This reminds me that I need more blue paint.
@shinjigaming7185
@shinjigaming7185 Жыл бұрын
The lorgar comment had me bursting out laughing
@cnelson1025
@cnelson1025 Жыл бұрын
I think it’s funny. Ultramarines have a cool theme, and lots of people who hate on them weren’t even around or in the game when all the hate started, they just hate through osmosis.
@digitalbunker154
@digitalbunker154 Жыл бұрын
I loved this concept "hate through osmosis". Open a new world view.
@obrasilius6733
@obrasilius6733 Жыл бұрын
I started disliking the ultramarines because two white supremacist guys that kept trowing racial slurs on me until I quit the discord sever It was when I started liking 40k. It is hard to me know to disassociate White Supremacist from Ultramarine fans, the cyberbulying was hard on me.
@cnelson1025
@cnelson1025 Жыл бұрын
@@obrasilius6733 that’s a valid reason ngl. I dislike iron hands for similar reasons
@obrasilius6733
@obrasilius6733 Жыл бұрын
@@cnelson1025 at least now we have black ultramarines, I wish o could see their faces
@sanguinius3938
@sanguinius3938 Жыл бұрын
@@obrasilius6733 lmao, 99% of Warhammer characters are white, but no distinguishable fanbase are white supremacists, and you shouldn't ally white supremacy with a faction either, i'm sure GW would imply that Space Marines have different races between them today, specially the Salamanders.
@mikulasnevidal5032
@mikulasnevidal5032 Жыл бұрын
2:33 AND IT'S BLUE, TOO !!!
@gerardmontgomery280
@gerardmontgomery280 Жыл бұрын
As someone who remembers the Ultras from 2nd edition and even collected them it's weird to seem them go through cycles of being the most "normal" and being the "super, best, mega" marines. Uriel Ventris is a Bro though. I'm still a loyal son of The Lion though.
@HexagonThatReallyLikesVinegar
@HexagonThatReallyLikesVinegar Жыл бұрын
Just got into WH40k with the Recruit Edition. Will now paint my Space Marines as ultramarines.
@nicholasgucwa2065
@nicholasgucwa2065 Жыл бұрын
Ultra Marines are Vanilla Space Marines. Some days vanilla is what you want, I get it.
@CrashCanuck537
@CrashCanuck537 Жыл бұрын
There is an Ultramar gas station near me, it takes all of my willpower to not add a second head to their golden eagle logo and the white "not omega" on the sign. Also now I kinda want to make up an army of UM successors called the "Hammer Fuckers"
@colorsred2771
@colorsred2771 Жыл бұрын
it should be mentioned that Guilliman had something that none of the other primarchs did, he had a mom! that's why he's the most well adjusted of all of them
@kristianfischer9814
@kristianfischer9814 Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the Hammerfuckers. Iron Hands successor chapter, I believe.
@herrschwarzherz3834
@herrschwarzherz3834 Жыл бұрын
Damn, I wish they would be canon.
@InternetSupervillain
@InternetSupervillain 10 ай бұрын
Lol
@pajnolan4459
@pajnolan4459 Жыл бұрын
Proud ultramarines player.
@roboGansta
@roboGansta Жыл бұрын
Good points all around, unfortunately, I have a 2 word argument. Hydra Dominatus
@Vincent_A.
@Vincent_A. 4 ай бұрын
I hope to Macragge that the logistics chapter has their own ice cream barge for prolonged campaigns.
@alexjobin623
@alexjobin623 Жыл бұрын
Arthur you spit with this one. I would def collect ultramarines if they weren’t the poster boys.
@Dogmelter42
@Dogmelter42 Жыл бұрын
They are about equal to me, with the Blood Angels. Just a big, flat meh. Though slightly below, because they are the poster boys. They are the ham and cheese sandwich of the setting. No mayo, just ham and cheese. I actually find a lot of their successor chapters more interesting. Mostly because they either zig where regular Ultramarines zag... Or just straight up eat people.
@SeraphCrimson777
@SeraphCrimson777 Жыл бұрын
I'm astonished that you've talked about the Ultramarines and their perception in the fandom without mentioning Matt Ward even once.
@venerablebrothergoriate5844
@venerablebrothergoriate5844 Жыл бұрын
I don’t hate the ultramarines, but I don’t like them for 2 reasons. 1: most often they’re kinda bland in their aesthetic. I wish they’d go full throttle into the space Rome look like that Mersaror guy. It’d help them to stand out a bit more. 2: they don’t leave any screentime for any of the cooler, more specialized legions, and the only ones that do get screentime are the blood angels and space wolves.
@pedropierre9594
@pedropierre9594 Жыл бұрын
I just love their OCD about logistics, im an OCD person myself maybe thats why i like them after all
@herrschwarzherz3834
@herrschwarzherz3834 Жыл бұрын
Hmm, yeah I agree.
@Pointducuh
@Pointducuh 22 күн бұрын
I always liked the ultramarines being the best because of their preference on well rounded but exceed in their strategy, auxiliaries, navy, and logistics
@Gruntseven
@Gruntseven Жыл бұрын
Courage and honor battle brother! Boys study battles, men study logistics.
@tyrstead5872
@tyrstead5872 Жыл бұрын
Dude I had never made the link with the Ultramar convenience stores. Subscribed!
@jonathanthompson4734
@jonathanthompson4734 9 ай бұрын
I have struggled with which chapter to paint for 13 years. I started with ultramarines, then crimson fists, then black templars, then aurora chapter, then blood ravens, then blood angels. I should've just kept my ultramarines. I think I'll go back to them, thanks to you.
@11jerans
@11jerans Жыл бұрын
I love the Uriel Ventris model, but the fact we don’t have a Veteran Sergeant Possanius model, the actual hero of the Uriel Ventris books, is a damn shame. I want my nearly primarch sized ultramarine with a heavy flamer running around with Uriel
@Psychosurgeonpls
@Psychosurgeonpls Жыл бұрын
this is exactly why i love the ultramarines.. they are soldiers... thats it, and thats why i like them. they struggle DEEPLY with the morals of combat and especially the normal humans, like their own auxila and guard in general.. they dont let it bother them as much as sallys but they are in general just normal people brought up to be demi gods and that is EXACTLY why i like them... third Co. gang wya? gang gang
@collinb.8542
@collinb.8542 Жыл бұрын
They really sell the idea of being a "Space Marine" to me. Idk why they just really seem like they are great for that role.
@YaGirlGumption
@YaGirlGumption Жыл бұрын
The more i learn about the ultra marines the more i love them. LIKE THE GENESIS CHAPTER! Literally the first successor chapter ever. And they fanboy over the ultramarines and try to live up to that ego inflated uber-knightly and chivelrous battle brother ideology they and the greater imperium thought them to be.
@YaGirlGumption
@YaGirlGumption Жыл бұрын
they also are basically just auxilliary troops for the Ultramarines. like they take from Genesis Chapter constantly to refill supplies. I can just imagine a going away party for each one while the Ultramarines are staring at their watches waiting to take their new unit into a necessary battle!
@Bubba-23nineteen
@Bubba-23nineteen 6 ай бұрын
I am very much enjoying your content. Your humor has me chuckling and i dont get most of the jokes yet as I am new to 40k. Was thinking of starting with Orks simply because they look fun, and there doesnt appear to be a limit to them dieing off. As you said in your orks video they arent an invasion so much as an infestation.
@Enos666
@Enos666 Жыл бұрын
I love Ultramarines, it isn't a popular stance from the perspective of many Xenos mains since the represent the poster boys of the Space Marines... Which themselves are the poster boys of 40k as a whole. But they are rational beacons of sanity in an irrational and insane universe.
@voxcasttonowhereofficial
@voxcasttonowhereofficial Жыл бұрын
Oh look, it's the FACTS
@bloodyshark2126
@bloodyshark2126 Жыл бұрын
You have made yourself some DEEPLY autistic enemies
@SatsuRyu
@SatsuRyu Жыл бұрын
Like you I love reading and playing Black Templars and by extension the Imperial Fists and other descendants of the VIIth Legion. But even from the beginning, I always liked the idealism and space Romans aesthetics of the Ultramarines.
@donquixote2072
@donquixote2072 Жыл бұрын
My heart will always be with the Black Templars and their eternal crusade against humanities enemies. But someone needs to hold down the fort and the ultramarines get the job done, it takes more than just prowess in battle to run a galaxy spanning empire.
@theimperviousfirecracker7934
@theimperviousfirecracker7934 4 ай бұрын
How could you? The Hammer Fuckers are my favorite Legion
@j-money3608
@j-money3608 4 ай бұрын
Bench max is directly correlated with space marine chapter preference. Ultramarines stay on top 💪
@-MarcelDavis-
@-MarcelDavis- Жыл бұрын
I also don't understand what's so funny about his name but I nonetheless enjoy the fact that he is basically the Beanibag Cabbagepatch of 40k
@rockchik409
@rockchik409 Жыл бұрын
It's just kinda long and tricky to say and spell, so it's easy to misspell or pronounce, so people just tend to intentionally misspell/say it wrong for the meme of it.
@BrugerJimmy-tw8eu
@BrugerJimmy-tw8eu Жыл бұрын
Ngl the ultramarines alone got me into Warhammer
@harrisonlinden6552
@harrisonlinden6552 10 ай бұрын
One of my favorite Ultramarines moments is in Dark Imperium when Calgar takes the 1st Company to handle a minor rebellion on Macragge. He does this because yes it’s overkill and that’s the point, to send a message that any attempt to subvert Macragge will be met with overwhelming violence. What isn’t well reflected about them on the tabletop is that Guilliman trained them to be good citizens first and warriors second and they deal with problems through a lense of diplomacy and sending a message instead of “raaaah kill them all”. Calgar even makes a point to capture and spare the youths who rebelled because they only have good intentions at heart. If you want to get a good idea of who the Ultramarines and Guilliman really are I’d highly recommend Dark Imperium and the way Ultramar is governed there.
@grigturcescu6190
@grigturcescu6190 Ай бұрын
I was reading a novel, a sniper's story, and it said there, that the fastest way to be promoted is in the logistics.
@BrushSaw
@BrushSaw Жыл бұрын
i was there when the matt ward warded all over the lore and it was not a nice time :( kinda hard to shake that off i have to admit - dark imperium books were fun though, Girlyman is very likable
@CrayZtwin1
@CrayZtwin1 Жыл бұрын
It’s true. Virtually every high level military mastermind places logistics at the pinnacle of military tactical prowess.
@mrsmeef537
@mrsmeef537 9 ай бұрын
What made me turn my opinion to liking the Smurfs is through their primarch. Was two things about him. First being his upbringing and how much of a momma’s boy he is. The second being how he feels he failed in parts of his life. He felt he had failed to save his father, to save Big E, and he feels he failed the people of the empire.
@YaminoSeigi
@YaminoSeigi Жыл бұрын
I like Ultramarines for Roboute exhibiting good qualities and virtues expected from a Patrician class
@internallyscreaming2788
@internallyscreaming2788 Жыл бұрын
The ultrasmurfs gets shit done
@SpectreAtYourFeast
@SpectreAtYourFeast Жыл бұрын
When I got into the hobby for the first time, I didn't quite connect the dots that the Ultramarines were the poster boy. Dark Angles were getting heavy representation on the box art, Crimson Fists were on the cover of Codex: Space Marines, Black Templars on the rulebook. I just liked blue. And years of character development ensued :/
@Filip_Agrippa
@Filip_Agrippa 5 ай бұрын
The thing is, that the Ultramarine nature as being noble knights and efficient legionaries, makes them in my eyes very appealing. Also their noble and shiny aesthetic is something that I like as well. And they are bood boys. Not as kind as Salamanders, but still good.
@HandsomeLongshanks
@HandsomeLongshanks Жыл бұрын
I used to rag on the smurfs until my GM for our Deathwatch game gave me a condition to my joining. My second character had to be an Ultramarine. I agreed, thinking i wouldnt need a 2nd character. Well, i got bored of my custom chapter marine quickly and moved on to my favorite character ive ever played in the 40k ttrpgs. I read the first trilogy of books and was blown away by how interesting they truly were and embodied that in my Deathwatch Marine. I even started a 4th company army for the tabletop but never got to field it
@blah007001
@blah007001 Жыл бұрын
I heard a rumor that Matt Ward was originally writing what was going to become an Ultramarine codex, and the project later got changed to being the generic Space Marine codex when it was nearly complete. And thus began both the wanking of, and the hating of our lovable smurfs.
@angelobrewster6293
@angelobrewster6293 Жыл бұрын
The Codex Astartes supports this action. Oh my Favourite Space Marines chapters are the Ultramarines, Dark Angels and Blood Angels.
@whocares2087.1
@whocares2087.1 2 ай бұрын
Probably the most down to earth take on the Ultramarines.
@ewanmorreau4927
@ewanmorreau4927 Жыл бұрын
While I'm not super keen on the Ultramarines, I absolutely adore a lot of their aesthetic and artwork. While they do catch a bad wrap, I personally find them enjoyable and think they are cool all in all. Versatility is a hell of a thing and they have it in spades
@riches3581
@riches3581 Жыл бұрын
Matt Ward is very proud of you Mr.Bones, Thank you so much.
@fleetwheelmac6978
@fleetwheelmac6978 Жыл бұрын
Ward, along with a certain other writer might just be the worst calamity that ever happened to the W40k galaxy. But I wouldn't blame the Ultramarines for that, they have been his victims just as we've been.
@NonPlantBasedOrganism
@NonPlantBasedOrganism Жыл бұрын
They have canonical plot armor because orks believe anything blue is lucky so….
@mrfawkes9110
@mrfawkes9110 Жыл бұрын
About the primarch names having a hidden meaning. Roboute is the Chec word for slave, and the etymological origin of the word robot.
@inquisitorialllama638
@inquisitorialllama638 Жыл бұрын
They have the most powerful weapon in the universe. Actual good logistics and government😅
@jamesf3871
@jamesf3871 Жыл бұрын
Doesn’t Papa Smurf need to stay in his armo(u)r at all times, and that he will die if he takes it off? If so, then he is essentially a dreadnought primarch.
@herrschwarzherz3834
@herrschwarzherz3834 Жыл бұрын
I think, he can take it of for short times. But I'm not sure.
@johndb1860
@johndb1860 Жыл бұрын
​@@herrschwarzherz3834 yea he's training himself to stay out of it for longer and longer periods of time. And it has nothing to do whatsoever with his definitely not eldar waifu.😅
@sanguinius3938
@sanguinius3938 Жыл бұрын
i didn't know that, why does this happen?
@sanguinius3938
@sanguinius3938 Жыл бұрын
i know sanguinius took his armour a lot of the times.
@jamesf3871
@jamesf3871 Жыл бұрын
@@sanguinius3938 Guilliman was placed in stasis for 10,000 years after being stabbed by Fulgrim’s poisoned blade, which would have killed him otherwise. Belisarius Cawl and Yvraine worked together to fit Guilliman with his armor at the time of the 13th Black Crusade. This helped bring Guilliman out of stasis, since the armor functions as something of a life-support system to keep Fulgrim’s venom at bay.
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