THE UMBRELLA ACADEMY Season 3 Ending Explained | Your WTF Questions Answered

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THE UMBRELLA ACADEMY Season 3 Ending Explained | Your WTF Questions Answered. We break down Season 3 of The Umbrella Academy and discuss your unanswered questions. This coves everything from the Sparrow Academy, the Kugleblitz, Reginald Hargreeves, Abigail, Harlanm Time Travel, Second Ben, Post Credit Scene, Ending and the Mothers.
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Ok so Umbrella Academy Season 3 ends with a big cliffhanger that seems like it's ripped right out of the ending of Fight Club. Even the ending shots are set up in the same way and if you're here then it probably means you have no idea what's going on.
Well you're in luck chump as throughout this video we're gonna be going over the biggest WTF questions to give you some clarity on what exactly is happening in the show.
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With that out the way, thanks for clicking this, now let's get into The Umbrella Academy Season 3!
Ok so the first big question I think we need to talk about is Who Is Sir Reginald Hargreeves.
Well in the series we have had hints towards his backstory and Season one's final episode opened with him at his wife's Abigails side as she lay in her death bed. Season 2 showed us that he's infact an alien and this opening scene in ten was actually his home planet.
He said farewell to Abigail and took with him not only a jar of Orbs that he opened up but also a white Violin that he later gifted to Victor. Now in the comics we get some of what happens after this fleshed out when we read more about the character. We discover that his planet was dying along with his wife and that he set out amongst the Cosmos in his private Vessel the Minerva. This was with his private bodyguard Abhijat who doesn't feature in the comics and instead a lot of his role is shifted over to Pogo.
On Earth Hargreeves invested in several businesses, he became a Nobel Prize Winner and also an Olypmic Gold Medalist.
In Season 2 when the family travelled back in time we discovered that he had teamed up with the Majestic 12, a group of illuminati-esque members who have some basis in the real world.
For decades now there have been conspiracy theories surrounding the mysterious members that make it up and they're meant to be a number of high ranking scientists, military leaders and government officials. According to the rumours they control world events and also hide the existence of UFOs.
The group was apparently formed all the way back in 1947 under the orders of President Truman and after recovering an alien spacecraft they began to cover up the truth from humanity.
They and Hargreeves worked together for a long time and he helped them in several technological advances which is when he became so involved in the space race. We discover in Season 2 that he's attempting to reach the Dark Side of The Moon, which we learn the reason for in Season 3.
Turns out Abigail is there and I believe that his ship crash landed on Earth after dropping her there which is why he was desperate to get back. She may have been shot out in an escape pod esque station which we see Luther was put in charge of guarding.
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@nathanielbecker7324
@nathanielbecker7324 2 жыл бұрын
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@MrTehDBear
@MrTehDBear 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of thoughts on this show because I am loving it. Hargraves is smart and a gambler; I think he only ever gets 7 because he only every TRIES for seven. He needs exactly 7 to power the ship and so never tries for more making him a gambler and a bit of an idiot. Like when they went into the machine at the end. Rather than have the backup of Klaus and Luther he kills them both leaving him with only Allison (Who he had a deal with) as his backup. If Klaus hadn't gone in and brought Luther Gravity girl (I am terrible with names) would have died and he would have had to use Alison as his 7th. In the first round(season1) He loses 5 and Ben dies making it so he cannot power the machine at all. His solution? Bring them together probably in the hopes of getting 5 back as well and them resetting time exactly like they did. When he sees them in the past he opts to get a different 7 (Not knowing Ben was already 1) and instead of trying to be a better parent he trains them even harder so that instead of fracturing and leaving they drug and control him instead. So I guess he succeeded in getting a better group as this didn't require him killing himself. AND AGAIN instead of getting 8 or more as backup he opts for only 7 again. Even with our 7 not existing in this timeline there were still over 40 kids born that day but he never tries for more and the fact that he got this new set shows he could have got more than our original 7. I don't think the ship is his as the way he talks about it would suggest otherwise. He says the creators of the universe mad it I think. He only had the key in those lights that might have also acted as a compass leading him to earth. He probably found it well before, maybe when his wife first gets sick or maybe even thinking he'd save his planet. HE doesn't care about anyone but his wife though so when she dies he finally opts to use said key and follows it to earth where he first finds the door and builds the hotel and then waits for the key to do its thing and make the kids. I also think 5 figures this out in one timeline. One where Ben doesn't die and our original 7 make it to the machine but he loses his arm anyway. Maybe he also loses his powers but still knows how to theoretically time travel and thus, with time, creates the briefcases to time travel with. Five knows he can only fix so much and a lot of stuff HAS to happen. He has to be born, get stuck in time join the Commission. He knows about Oblivion so he's been there (hence the lost arm). Was he warning himself not to save the world and go to Oblivion too or maybe trying to warn himself about what happens there, I dunno. He does know some, or all, of it has to happen. Maybe they will fix things by performing a more precise reset taking away Hargreaves's power in this time but that means he ends up injured as well. I do wonder if Hargreaves only killed those two because he was always planning to bring them back and give them normal lives but that remains to be seen. I am thinking he is still more anti-hero than villain. Willing to harshly train these kids he will never care for and even kill them if need be but also making it so they get something of a happy ending. Or maybe the power loss is simply a side effect of the lights being drained from them. He could have also taken their powers with the machine in the hopes of them not fucking shit up any more with Victor not having their world ending powers and Five no longer being able to time travel. Alison might be the unforeseen result since he was probably gonna take her powers too and I like the idea that she might Rumor their powers back so they can fuck over whatever his new plan is. Probably by accident knowing these idiots. A final funny not; Klause is my favorite and I've loved the Actor since I first saw him in the British show Misfits so I died laughing when, once again, one of his powers is him being Immortal. Really woulda died laughing if he yelled "I'm Immortal" in his original accent like he did in that show.
@johnmcafee9663
@johnmcafee9663 2 жыл бұрын
i stopped watching in EP 2 when the LGBTQ transgender propaganda made an appearance
@Jackie535
@Jackie535 2 жыл бұрын
@Heavy Spoilers I’m still confused of Sloane’s disappearance in the end…..did she sacrifice herself to save Luther or did she vanished elsewhere just like Allison ended with Ray and her daughter?
@oluwadamilareagboola9982
@oluwadamilareagboola9982 2 жыл бұрын
What I really just want to know is what the “Jennifer incident” is
@lexicole20
@lexicole20 2 жыл бұрын
Was anyone at all upset by Allison’s behavior this season? I understand she was grieving but home girl was not worried about Claire last season when she was with Ray lol. She wasn’t doing “everything she possibly could” to get back to her. Now she wants to be mad at Viktor? Viktor was severely abused and didn’t know how to use his powers. Him starting the apocalypse was an accident. His siblings treated him like dirt up until this season. Idk… Allison annoyed me.
@lexicole20
@lexicole20 2 жыл бұрын
@CatGirlGames glad I wasn’t the only one!!! Also what she did to Luther was so messed up. It was so predatory / SA!
@rangershake5652
@rangershake5652 2 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind it’s been less than a month
@lexicole20
@lexicole20 2 жыл бұрын
@@rangershake5652 I know, I totally understand she’s grieving but she was actually in the 1960s for like 3 years or so. She was fine without seeing her daughter for years? That didn’t make sense to me
@moshpitboyfriend
@moshpitboyfriend 2 жыл бұрын
i do understand her pain and everything but she ended up taking it out on everyone and she was super toxic. i feel bad for viktor and luther the most bc viktor did not deserve the hate he got especially after all he’s been through. luther didn’t deserve to be treated like that especially bc she’s jealous of him and sloane. idk i think the writers made hateful so she could have a redemption arc but, i think they went to far.
@lexicole20
@lexicole20 2 жыл бұрын
@@moshpitboyfriend I agree with you. I think she was overwhelmed with anger and just took it out on everyone. I do agree they were trying to make her less “nice” this season for a reason. I stan Sloan and Luther! 🥰
@akashhere3167
@akashhere3167 2 жыл бұрын
When five said , “what do we call a superhero who works alone and doesn't inform anybody about the next move? A villain. "....he was talking about Allison
@Kagarin05
@Kagarin05 Жыл бұрын
I find that quote dumb because it’d actually be describing a vigilante or anti-hero more so before a villain
@DiegoCrawford
@DiegoCrawford Жыл бұрын
@@Kagarin05 fr I thought he was going to say vigilante
@Kagarin05
@Kagarin05 Жыл бұрын
@@DiegoCrawford the writing throughout the show was bad imo =/ I liked the characters at least
@AMAli-ct5df
@AMAli-ct5df Жыл бұрын
@@DiegoCrawford same here
@jlinus7251
@jlinus7251 Жыл бұрын
Funny thing is Five does this a lot. So is he talking about himself
@Chimpmanboom
@Chimpmanboom 2 жыл бұрын
I’d consider Allison the “villain” of this season and there was no resolution to this. It was like watching the villain get everything they want and win in the end
@xopath9204
@xopath9204 2 жыл бұрын
Shes the most selfish character. Honestly would have stopped watching the show if i wasnt watching with family because of how frustrating she is to watch
@1stKindChris
@1stKindChris 2 жыл бұрын
@@xopath9204 she lost her daughter, got transported to another timeline where she thought she'd never see her family again, fell in love, and then lost that partner as well as coming to grips with possibly never seeing her daughter ever again. And then on top of that constantly being surrounded by the very people that caused you to lose both those people. Shes the only mother on the show. Hell all of her frustrations made sense. Everything she did made sense.
@veyamarie1506
@veyamarie1506 2 жыл бұрын
@@1stKindChris no, just no. she is not the only one in the umbrella family whose life was affected by the apocalypse’s. which also means she shouldn’t be excused for acting the way she did, especially since no one else who lost who they loved did what she did. she is just a selfish person at heart.
@1stKindChris
@1stKindChris 2 жыл бұрын
@@veyamarie1506 selfish? Everyone deals with grief differently... but what did Luther lose? What did 5 lose? Diego? Klaus actually had his lover die. But Allison had her family stolen. She lost her family in both realities. She has guilt from using her powers on her daughter, and then she has to deal with the possibility that she would never see her again. Allison is the most tragic character in the show.
@1stKindChris
@1stKindChris 2 жыл бұрын
Vanya/Viktor is the worst this season..... just in the way at every turn. She went from a tragic character in season 1 to just being a nuisance
@1inchnoodle323
@1inchnoodle323 2 жыл бұрын
I love klaus’s character development this season, he is my favourite character by far. Him just being like “whatever” when he and luther died was so funny to me. And I would like to know what his spirit barrage, or whatever it was, was.
@Frenchbae
@Frenchbae 2 жыл бұрын
Me toooo ❤️
@febryzulfitryadi9672
@febryzulfitryadi9672 2 жыл бұрын
hey guys i have a question. where is klaus in first apocalypse in season1? we know klaus dead in eps2 season 1. but whre is he after that? he can back to life and why he still dead there?
@ariellemartinez8412
@ariellemartinez8412 2 жыл бұрын
@@febryzulfitryadi9672 I'm guessing he didn't master coming back to life in that timeline so he remained dead
@janicewatson4428
@janicewatson4428 2 жыл бұрын
Yes..even when he know his lovely father stoping him to enter the gate and knowing how his father just using him and killing him a couple times..hes like "oh yeah, okey lets see the positive thing about this, i can spend my time in void, void is my home" lol But when he know that the whole familly in danger, he will be there..oh klaus, hes really love his familly.. How dare u old alien!!
@weronika7596
@weronika7596 2 жыл бұрын
He's always been my favorite character, but before I loved many others two. This season he was the only one I truly liked. All others were either 'meh', pretty ok or straight up unlikeable to me. I wouldn't have watched if Klaus hadn't been there.
@JakBangHo
@JakBangHo 2 жыл бұрын
You missed the part about “the deal.” Allison didn’t stand on a star, therefore didn’t lose her powers, and then magically shows up at her house, instead of coming out of the elevator, with the two things she wanted most.
@LadyRainicorn2012
@LadyRainicorn2012 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the deal was to let her live basically, My first impression was that they are dead, Klaus is the only one that knows that and will pretend to make their sibling happy living in this void/limbo. But for Allison the dwal was to survive in the timeline like Regginald and they both got what they wanted, letting the team die for what they wanted. Prob wrong I haven't read the comic nor I know how many they are or if there would be another season. But it gave me peace to finish the series 🤣🤣🤣
@eps3154
@eps3154 2 жыл бұрын
I think each "universe" is a hologram programmed by the machine. The deal he made with Allison is if she helped him, she would get both Ray and her daughter in the next universe...
@godisjihyo3615
@godisjihyo3615 2 жыл бұрын
right im assuming he was messing with the machine configuring the world they would teleport to, and since allison helped him she got claire and ray, while luther and sloane aren't together or viktor and sissy
@adanpadilla4200
@adanpadilla4200 2 жыл бұрын
Luther wasn’t on a star/bell so he still has his powers too?
@LadyRainicorn2012
@LadyRainicorn2012 2 жыл бұрын
@@adanpadilla4200 No, Luther died before with Klaus so prob none of them has their powers, even Klaus but he's familiar with the dead
@thephilosopher7173
@thephilosopher7173 2 жыл бұрын
Its a very cool concept to have the mentor of the main characters to also be the villain who uses them for his own selfish ambitions. What a great story!
@ii4192
@ii4192 2 жыл бұрын
It’s giving the flash
@Tevin-MK
@Tevin-MK 2 жыл бұрын
@@ii4192 but way more complex
@rareshiny1945
@rareshiny1945 2 жыл бұрын
@flisnoo shaboo Ask Luther
@rareshiny1945
@rareshiny1945 2 жыл бұрын
Flash S1 Wells aka Thawn the Reverse Flash.
@TheNick993
@TheNick993 2 жыл бұрын
Don't talk trash about pogo!
@PhoenixProductions1
@PhoenixProductions1 2 жыл бұрын
I'm just annoyed that Allison was my favorite character for the past two seasons and to see her act the way she did was so selfish and disgusting (especially that situation with Luther I will never forgive her for even after her wack apology) I don't think it's fair that in this timeline she is the only one who gets everything she wanted. Also, her complete disregard for everyone else having lost someone like she was the only one hurt was annoying to no end - Viktor lost Sissy and now Harlan because of her, Diego lost Patch, Klaus lost Dave, and Five literally spent his entire life in an apocalyptic waste land only to come back and save them all, so for her to act like she was the only one going through trauma was so insensitive of her and the way she took it out on her family was so ugly of her. I hope she has some major character development in the next season cause her actions were hard to watch this one.
@mariyuhhh5
@mariyuhhh5 2 жыл бұрын
I agree 100% her character was so bad this season, even worse than asshole Ben tbh
@lousassle6136
@lousassle6136 2 жыл бұрын
I was praying she got smoked
@mqbleel
@mqbleel 2 жыл бұрын
I never liked Allison since since she rumored her own husband
@ateam404
@ateam404 2 жыл бұрын
Allison went thru segregation.. ain’t nobody coming out cheery from that
@Bowser-pu5jj
@Bowser-pu5jj 2 жыл бұрын
@@ateam404 doesn't excuse her for her behaviour
@JudasBox
@JudasBox Жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure Allison’s new family is just a result of the deal made with Hargreaves I think he programmed the new universe to be like that in exchange for her cooperation.
@VanK782
@VanK782 Жыл бұрын
That makes a lot of sense!
@Yezpahr
@Yezpahr Жыл бұрын
If that was true then she didn't need to kill Hargreeves and push buttons. So if Hargreeves had set the things for her, then what did she program into the universe? I doubt it was just to erase his memory of what happened. How would he live up to that deal if he wouldn't remember it? At every turn she makes the wrong decisions, and trying to explain it just shows how much worse the decision was...
@kingmac6638
@kingmac6638 Жыл бұрын
Well yeah we know that for a fact
@FuckTheSimulation
@FuckTheSimulation 5 ай бұрын
programmed the Simulation*
@ionlytakebubblebaths9920
@ionlytakebubblebaths9920 2 жыл бұрын
I find it funny how five is worried about Viktor being a potential villan when Allison's actions this season have been much worse than Viktor going solo
@Arinaretina
@Arinaretina 2 жыл бұрын
Ifkr. She was painful to watch this season.
@Noslrl
@Noslrl Жыл бұрын
Vanya*
@ionlytakebubblebaths9920
@ionlytakebubblebaths9920 Жыл бұрын
@@Noslrl their name is Viktor now
@Noslrl
@Noslrl Жыл бұрын
@@ionlytakebubblebaths9920 her name will always be vanya
@idontreadreplies.252
@idontreadreplies.252 Жыл бұрын
@@Noslrl nope it’s viktor, sorry buddy
@harinandan4291
@harinandan4291 2 жыл бұрын
Final scene we see allison still having a scarred face meaning she didnt loose her powers probably because she didnt have her powers sucked by the portal .Maybe allison made a deal with Reginald to meet back her child and husband. Allison is a Possible villain for the next season as others dont have powers unlike her. I guess this will motivate five to make a time machine thereby setting up the commission.
@axh268
@axh268 2 жыл бұрын
Not a bad theory actually. This got me thinking
@eirmundgundnand9442
@eirmundgundnand9442 2 жыл бұрын
I think there's a lot of merit to this theory and I've been thinking the same thing. She showed no remorse whatsoever for her actions, making them even more villainous. She also suffers no repercussions either, which means that she doesn't grow as a character this season. And if the Umbrella Academy has to reverse what's happened for some reason, there's no way Allison would let them do it. Not with what she's done to get Claire and Raymond back.
@A-bp9hq
@A-bp9hq 2 жыл бұрын
i second on her being a villain. she was already acting like so in this one.
@kubakrause5259
@kubakrause5259 2 жыл бұрын
I doubt it because Viktor still has his powers after the sparkles got sucked out of everyone, when Five urges him to attack Allison. So yeah, maybe them losing their powers was part of the deal. But then again why Hargreaves said to her that he "can't" do it without her?? I mean there must be something more to it why he needed Allison. Since Allison couldn't convince the other family members to vote to go, what else did she provide to Reginald that he wouldn't have otherwise? This is the question I don't fully know the answer to and it bothers me
@cheesypizzajokes
@cheesypizzajokes 2 жыл бұрын
@@kubakrause5259 exactly; also, i think showing that Vik still has powers is indicative of him having more of those glowy energy specks things compared to the rest, hence his greater abilities/capabilities
@jaynvius1
@jaynvius1 2 жыл бұрын
I originally like Allison up until this season and I get it that she's grieving but the steps she took just to get back to her daughter and husband of the 60s is something a villain would do just like Sir Reginald Hargreeves who's plan was to get his wife back. I do like that Ben is more active despite him being a ******** in this universe and the introduction of the Sparrows were great.
@deborahdalton6212
@deborahdalton6212 2 жыл бұрын
Her actions match the story line in the graphic novel. With that, I’m inclined to think she is hallucinating
@heartsandpearls239
@heartsandpearls239 2 жыл бұрын
What steps did she take? You realize they were all going to die either ways? If Hardon hadn't killed their mothers Claire would still be alive and the "Kugleblitz" or grandfather paradox would not be happening?
@anniesmith5953
@anniesmith5953 2 жыл бұрын
Allison has always been manipulative, she just didn't let it get the best of her until now. She used her powers for her career, on her child, and to completely fuck over Viktor. She had good moments, but was definitely way more of a garbage person than people seem to give her credit for.
@anniesmith5953
@anniesmith5953 2 жыл бұрын
@DenDen and her career. It was heavily implied she used her power to get roles and good reviews.
@heartsandpearls239
@heartsandpearls239 2 жыл бұрын
@@anniesmith5953 because her powers are used for manipulation. Simple! No matter the instance in which she uses her power, for good or evil, to rumour is to manipulate period! Cut her some slake.
@amo903
@amo903 2 жыл бұрын
That pause when everyone was stepping on the plates was awfully suspicious, I think 5’s future self was the version that didnt step on the plate and allison was, meaning he would probably still have has his powers/severed arm, allison was stilll bleeding and had her wounds when she came back to claire.
@IzzieBellz
@IzzieBellz 2 жыл бұрын
You're right, five's future self had his left arm cut off. Thats why five said to his younger self to not save the world this time.
@amo903
@amo903 2 жыл бұрын
@@IzzieBellz and to add on him telling his younger self not to save the world might mean he was the one that ended up killing hargreeves, thus he was quite literally the one to press the button and save the world, maybe leading to another timeline we might see in future seasons
@aloncarmi4617
@aloncarmi4617 2 жыл бұрын
@@amo903 goated theory
@IzzieBellz
@IzzieBellz 2 жыл бұрын
@@amo903 That could be a possible theory, or maybe the timeline in which five would be dead maybe Hargreeves needed him in that timeline and to not save the world or create another timeline. Hargreeves made a deal with Allison, I think that deal was she was wanted to be with Ray and Claire. Klaus did say all peoples heavens are different maybe she died
@vangeles11
@vangeles11 2 жыл бұрын
wow great catch on the severed arm being retained on the older five.
@katt_winter
@katt_winter 2 жыл бұрын
I think Klaus showing us that everyone has their own version of heaven (he says this when him and Luther are on the bouncy castle) and us also learning that pushing a button causes real problems (like pressing the bell button) means that actually, Alison is dead and that’s her version of heaven. It’s the only way to really explain both Ray & Claire being in the same timeline.
@qataripekarsky
@qataripekarsky 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing.
@TrueGamer22887
@TrueGamer22887 2 жыл бұрын
What? I assumed it was part of their deal that he reset the universe and created it to his will and part of that was in their deal for Allison
@Marco-xm7uu
@Marco-xm7uu 2 жыл бұрын
Claus also said that there is no pain in the heaven and Luther are not even have a scar on his body, so I believe Alison is in the reality, another timeline, rather than in the heaven.
@katt_winter
@katt_winter 2 жыл бұрын
@@TrueGamer22887 - Would you really trust a word Reggie said?
@katt_winter
@katt_winter 2 жыл бұрын
@@Marco-xm7uu - Not sure their heaven would be one where Reggie was in charge of everything. Also, if it was a joint heaven, Slone would have been there too.
@austinmorrison6953
@austinmorrison6953 2 жыл бұрын
So let me get this straight: Reginald’s grand plan all along in founding the Umbrella and Sparrow Academies was not to raise a group of superheroes so much as raise and train a squad of soldiers/sacrificial lambs to gain access to a universal reset machine left behind by mysterious omnipotent beings and now he rules the entire city, possibly the entire world in this new timeline all while the siblings are now powerless.
@santoslara7559
@santoslara7559 Жыл бұрын
All in the name of LOVE.
@Panzerkriegen
@Panzerkriegen 11 ай бұрын
More or less, yes, makes me an interesting S04
@camerono.3183
@camerono.3183 2 жыл бұрын
Allison’s character got demolished this season. She sexually assaulted Luther and that was never really addressed. She commits murder against someone innocent to hurt Viktor. She physically attacks him multiple times and argues like a child (quote “he started it!”). The excuse of “she’s grieving” doesn’t work as an excuse for poorly executed drama for dramas sake. Allison was intelligent, compassionate, and the heart of the team. Her arc was always about redemption andso what was the purpose of making her go evil, just to try and pull a lame redemption in death ending for her? They just turned her into the angry irrational black woman troupe. And then have the audacity to try to have her make commentary on race with Diego, whilst also portraying that as her going down the wrong path? Yes. How villainous of her to call out racism. The writers really screwed her character this season. Ugh.
@chipthunk
@chipthunk 2 жыл бұрын
the way they wrote Allison this season nearly ruined the whole thing for me. Every second she was on screen was unsufferable, idk why they did that to her she was a perfectly fine character before
@pedrombcosta
@pedrombcosta 2 жыл бұрын
Losing her daughter and her husband consecutively is such great motivation for a character to lose their minds that is really impressive they managed to fuck it up this bad. The writing is just awful, making her irrationally angry and illogical instead of sad and nihilistic that maybe could've led to her being angry and fucking up at the end of the season. Also, its actually insane that they decided to include the sexual assault scene, how do you expect for the audience to root for someone that does that, even if you pretend it never happened for the rest of the season? Some mind boggling decisions really
@hamboan6266
@hamboan6266 2 жыл бұрын
I was literally thinking the exact same thing about the angry black woman trope. Like, come on, she had SO much good development in the past two seasons and they ruined it for her. The amount of times she stormed out of an argument... They did her so dirty this season
@dugeniadugeniadugeniadugen5266
@dugeniadugeniadugeniadugen5266 2 жыл бұрын
@@hamboan6266 the reason I think for her transformation is to illustrate that given the right circumstances, anyone can go off the deep end and become a terrible person, even a character like Allison. I actually thought it was a great idea to turn the most put together character into the main asshole.
@imapotato6590
@imapotato6590 2 жыл бұрын
@@dugeniadugeniadugeniadugen5266 same actually, i hated allison this season, but i dont think it ruined her character as so many people are saying. We werent meant to root for her this season, we werent meant to like her this season. im glad they fully committed to her descent into being a terrible person instead of sugarcoating it all. It shows no one is safe. depending on the circumstances, even good people can spiral and do terrible things.Heres to some good development on her part next season though.I do hope for some level of redemption on her part, cause her actions were pretty fucked up
@neuroqueercoach
@neuroqueercoach 2 жыл бұрын
I know it says "he got 7" at the beginning of two of the seasons, but I actually think he actually only cared about getting 7 because he was so arrogant that he thought he could train them so they wouldn't die, the same way he left Klaus out because he was so positive that he wouldn't need him. I also think that the universe didn't get reset so much as reprogramed. That would explain the HE and Allison having both Ray and Claire. It might even explain why Ben survived but Sloane may not have because Allison didn't like her but seemed to be getting along with bitchy Ben.
@ri3121
@ri3121 2 жыл бұрын
It's not that I think, I think he tried to prevent exactly what happened. Allison stabbing him in the back. If there is only 7, nobody can stop him once they take their places.
@Hoid.
@Hoid. 2 жыл бұрын
@@ri3121 then why did he insist on leaving Allison out of the circle? It clearly was about their deal. He reprogrammed the universe by giving her what she wanted. The only thing is that Allison didn't know the others would be sacrificed for that to happen.
@ri3121
@ri3121 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hoid. He left her out of the circle because klaus came back. If he hadn't, there would have been seven of them there. so everyone had a spot. Now that there were eight, there was one person that was gonna be left out, and he'd rather have it be Allison, who is basically evil, and who he had a deal with, than someone else who would definitely try and stop him
@katybee3891
@katybee3891 2 жыл бұрын
@@ri3121 what’s evil about her?
@ri3121
@ri3121 2 жыл бұрын
@@katybee3891 Killing an innocent person out of spite? Almost raping Luther? Constantly trying to sabotage her family?
@mirkosaor
@mirkosaor 2 жыл бұрын
You forgot about Five loosing his arm. His future self was also missing an arm. His arm is now restored tho but I still think it’s a hint.
@shang6069
@shang6069 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe because the timeline changed? So maybe he won't establish the commission in the future
@emirachu8137
@emirachu8137 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I’m so confused now like now I’m just wondering what’s real and what’s fake? Cus Reginald said they were in a machine?? But does that machine create a new timeline?? Reverts back in time?? Hops into a multiverse?? Generates a new reality? Like what do you call what they’re in now. And the fact that they came out of a what? An elevator?? Sooo confused
@okochathankgod3189
@okochathankgod3189 2 жыл бұрын
Number 5 lost his arm again in the future
@NotGilmore
@NotGilmore 2 жыл бұрын
@@emirachu8137 Maybe Allison fucked it up and Regi didn’t finish what he wanted to do its weird and mind boggling alot of possibilities.
@mirkosaor
@mirkosaor 2 жыл бұрын
@@okochathankgod3189 yeah but that kind of makes the scene where he lost his arm without purpose
@Kaboose149
@Kaboose149 2 жыл бұрын
Klaus has always been able to conjure the dead into the physical world, he showed it back in season 2. Thats how he was able to bring Luther back to save sloan
@shaycat13
@shaycat13 2 жыл бұрын
Right, he had done it in the apocalypse in season 1 and with original timeline's dead Ben
@mariannap4181
@mariannap4181 2 жыл бұрын
But that time Ben was like a blue ghost… was it because now he is more powerful and Luther looked normal?
@shaycat13
@shaycat13 2 жыл бұрын
@@mariannap4181 hmm I can say that's very likely. Yeah I think you're right all the ghosts till now were blue, at least the ones summoned
@Pandaikon0980
@Pandaikon0980 2 жыл бұрын
​@@shaycat13 Considering his earlier training montages with "Dear Old Dad", I figured that Luther being "solid" when summoned was just representative of Klaus' growing power.
@SamanthaEdgell
@SamanthaEdgell 2 жыл бұрын
No shit
@dimgus3653
@dimgus3653 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine someone loving you so much that they're literally ready to reset the universe just to be with you... I wonder what kind of women Abigail is that Reggie loves her so much. I'd love know her in S4!
@milcevicoco4899
@milcevicoco4899 2 жыл бұрын
She must be evil af to agree with her husband to do all the shit he did just to save her.
@SamanthaEdgell
@SamanthaEdgell 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly what i was thinking, on one hand i can commend him for being such a great husband and doing anything possible to get his wife back. Kinda how ppl say “id give the world for you”, well.. he took that LITERAL, lol. On the other hand tho, i still dont like him 😂.
@dimgus3653
@dimgus3653 2 жыл бұрын
@@milcevicoco4899 i don't think Abigail agreed, since in the very beginning she was telling him to forget her and move on. When she was about to die. So, Reggie probably did everything on his own.
@dimgus3653
@dimgus3653 2 жыл бұрын
@@SamanthaEdgell same
@CaptainMug
@CaptainMug 2 жыл бұрын
Allison still has her powers, overcome with grief decides to "Rumour" some random girl and some random dude into thinking they are husband and daughter. This being foreshadowed in the growing powers Allison has been having creating a character struggle in the next season. Sloan probably does exists only not to such extent as we know her, she was born but had a normal upbringing so does not know Luther or anyone else, this creating a 'romance struggle' for the next season.
@TheKendeHD
@TheKendeHD 2 жыл бұрын
nice bro
@alyissaaragon6943
@alyissaaragon6943 2 жыл бұрын
So... Wandavision?
@nahaight1373
@nahaight1373 2 жыл бұрын
It’s already confirmed that Allison her daughter and husband are very much alive in the new timeline by the showrunner
@leonguyen1751
@leonguyen1751 Жыл бұрын
what do you mean random? They are literally her daughter and husband from a different timeline 🤷‍♂️
@tia.was.missing_
@tia.was.missing_ 2 жыл бұрын
Do you not remember Season 1 where Klaus brings Ben's "spirit" back and allows him to use his powers to save everyone. It's the same thing that happened with Luther.
@SolarNawr
@SolarNawr 2 жыл бұрын
that was season 2
@tia.was.missing_
@tia.was.missing_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@SolarNawr No, in the movie theatre.
@sethyesseth55
@sethyesseth55 2 жыл бұрын
@@SolarNawr the theater scene during the finale
@tia.was.missing_
@tia.was.missing_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@Euvoia I don't think Klaus did that though..
@detachedrelic3887
@detachedrelic3887 2 жыл бұрын
@@tia.was.missing_ then who did it
@Falderos8729
@Falderos8729 2 жыл бұрын
It totally went over my head that “he only got seven of them” probably wasn’t true, if he managed to get another team. It seems more like “the first seven he got” kind of thing.
@ceesno9955
@ceesno9955 2 жыл бұрын
Considering that the mothers died, there were no 2nd versions.
@Falderos8729
@Falderos8729 2 жыл бұрын
@@ceesno9955 But them dying had nothing to do with Reginald. In this context, there was a choice he could make to skip over them. So if those 7 seven had been chosen next, who’s to say there isn’t even more than the 14 (15 with Lila) children we’ve been shown? And how does the glowy dust work? Does it give one’s he chooses powers? And if there’s 2 ben’s does that mean the timeline’s just merged? The “good ending” timeline and our possibly “bad ending” timeline?
@ceesno9955
@ceesno9955 2 жыл бұрын
@@Falderos8729 Great point, I think alternative Ben, and Sloane got wiped. & Reginald still need needs the group for something larger, but they need to merge all their powers into something but as one person...Allison maybe? Allison...is dead in my theory. She died and created her own heaven. She doesn't know it yet though. The ultimate purpose and plan is unclear...however I am willing to wager that this was all Abigails planning. To merge the 7 into the 1. The other children...no doubt there are more out there. 36 kids with powers not even talked about.
@torrix_4595
@torrix_4595 2 жыл бұрын
@@ceesno9955 Although he didn't say or do alot at the end, I don't think it's the 'original' Ben. He didn't act like so at all imo
@chrismusiclover9893
@chrismusiclover9893 2 жыл бұрын
@@torrix_4595 it's still "angsty ben" as I call him
@ahchiu9
@ahchiu9 2 жыл бұрын
I find it super interesting that Hargreeves' plan is to release the lights and have them grow inside human host until they are old enough to mature and power his reset. This is basically like the Celestials in the MCU
@bstroh9553
@bstroh9553 2 жыл бұрын
This season I loved Klaus the most and hated Allison. Klaus mastering his skills and becoming immortal was very entertaining, and how he took it a step further by bringing other dead people back to life. Allison sucked this season, she was stuck up and the moments I hated the most were: what she did to Luther, not forgiving Victor, and then fake apologizing to Victor to carry out her deal with Reggie for her own selfish desires. She was the true villain this season.
@heelmoxley365
@heelmoxley365 2 жыл бұрын
Klaus is the best character on the show
@ashina5924
@ashina5924 2 жыл бұрын
@@heelmoxley365 agreed, klaus and ben om season one was my favorite, klause overall has 10x the character development
@kman1893
@kman1893 Жыл бұрын
Whats crazy is the actor of klaus has already played a character with almost the exact same abilities, just reversed in how he discovers them. Best character easily
@cp2342
@cp2342 2 жыл бұрын
I highly believe Reg adopted Sloane again remember he said he would take care of her after stabbing Luther to death I felt that was foreshadowing. I also don’t buy Ray being in the same timeline as Claire with the amount of times Allison was seeing him this season makes me think she’s dead and it’s not real.
@hallaja8338
@hallaja8338 2 жыл бұрын
I agree! I thought Allison died and got her heaven
@zoegulliksen7753
@zoegulliksen7753 2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree as well.
@amarawinchester963
@amarawinchester963 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, she wasn’t healed and she wasn’t with her siblings. Also no way Ray will be there at her home just waiting for her. She is dead for sure!
@jessicaHcat
@jessicaHcat 2 жыл бұрын
My first thought was she died and everything she saw was fake, but then considering how advanced the technologies Reg has, maybe she is in a simulated VR, something like the Valley Beyond from Westworld.
@cp2342
@cp2342 2 жыл бұрын
@@amarawinchester963 I totally agree with that statement Ray freaked the hell out in season 2 when she told him the truth about her and the family highly doubtful he is just chilling waiting for her to come home something doesn’t feel right about that.
@luciusnguyen2449
@luciusnguyen2449 2 жыл бұрын
It’s just my theory but I think the reason Sloane didn’t make it is because of Allison. In the scene where Reginald Hargreeves was resetting the universe, he was creating 7 cubes and matches each of them to the symbol on the control panel. However, Allison killed Reginald before he could create the 7th cube for the symbol. When Allison hit the reset button there were only 6 green cubes on the symbol and the slot for the 7th cube was empty. I think that the last cube was for Sloane and since it was never finished, Sloane didn’t make it to the new universe
@perlaguerra693
@perlaguerra693 2 жыл бұрын
Nah I just think he killed her. It's was a "You will get what you've wanted but only in death" thing. I think he manipulated her to press the button instead of him. Because whoever presses it dies.(permanently) That's why he said "not you". It was a "I'm bringing sloan back,not you" thing. Also, he had promised Luther that Sloan will be taken care of. So when the timeline was reset Sloan would also be back. Like Luther, and him.
@luciusnguyen2449
@luciusnguyen2449 2 жыл бұрын
​@@perlaguerra693 Nah, highly unlikely. Luther is set up to be the focus for the next season with his goal to find Sloane. Allison being responsible for Sloane's death will serve as the perfect emotional conflict for Luther given the complicated relationship between Allison and Luther. The girl you used to love took away the love of your life
@elliezzz7812
@elliezzz7812 2 жыл бұрын
@@luciusnguyen2449 that’s what I thought but he could blame it on reg because he’s the one that programmed it and then in a twist when he confronts reg reg could turn around and be like well Allison interrupted me whilst I was making the final code for Sloan so it’s Allison’s fault 🤔
@rebboy17
@rebboy17 2 жыл бұрын
@@perlaguerra693 nah don’t think so lol
@fa1c_OG
@fa1c_OG 2 жыл бұрын
Luther wasn't there with the other 7 and he came back in the elevator. If that's the case and Sloane was dead then why did Luther come back? Sloane and Luther could have just remained dead together in the so-called heaven. The fact that Luther came back means he's probably on a mission to find out where Sloane went in season 4. Just a thought...
@antoniawinchester
@antoniawinchester 2 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or does anybody else want to know about the Jennifer incident the most?
@quynhanhdu9627
@quynhanhdu9627 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@brunobuss7005
@brunobuss7005 2 жыл бұрын
Haha same I was always thinking, it must be important since they not revealing it
@tiffany5333
@tiffany5333 2 жыл бұрын
And Sparrow Ben had drawings of a girl in his room and the drawings had the name "Jennifer" on them
@nikolayzdravkov9198
@nikolayzdravkov9198 2 жыл бұрын
he got a bad sloppy toppy from a homeless girl and died from an std, rip benerino
@jeyr2850
@jeyr2850 2 жыл бұрын
Yess!! Ugh.
@jay_vinci
@jay_vinci 2 жыл бұрын
Possibly Allison killing Reggie was apart of their deal, to make it look like she was doing something good for her family after the way she’s been acting, Reggie knew he’d be fine after he entered the codes no matter what so that was part of the sham they both put on
@abhishekanand2111
@abhishekanand2111 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah makes sense. As everyone who died in hotel Oblivion remembers the past... (Ben version, I'm confused)
@ShinySephiroth1
@ShinySephiroth1 2 жыл бұрын
No, she changed her mind to save the family. It wasn't part of any deal.
@Furkward
@Furkward 2 жыл бұрын
No it wouldn’t make any sense for her to use her power to make him stop
@nokapkey
@nokapkey 2 жыл бұрын
@@ShinySephiroth1 it could work in a sense. Since she played the part of being noble Vanya never stopped her like she was going to. Think to when she asked Vanya if she trusted her and she powered down. I think if Vanya stopped her 5 would’ve been the one to hit the button and use it to create the Commission keeping time travel controlled. Hence the reason why the future 5 knew of Oblivion and still had his arm missing since we see from Allison that you don’t heal when pushing the button. This theory would still create a loop regardless.
@Furkward
@Furkward 2 жыл бұрын
@@nokapkey no five would have pressed the button if Allison step on on circle
@jace4910
@jace4910 2 жыл бұрын
There’s still so much we don’t know about Reggie. Literally after his wife dies how does he know to release the orange mist. How does he know that it’s all going to reset the universe. And also his conversation with five. “Ive seen universes end in ways you couldn’t even imagine” like it’s been many many times. What is his purpose? He knew he was going to die to Allison and still got what he wanted. It just doesn’t make a lot of sense. Especially if they are going to have another season. It also brings me to believe this is just a massive loop? Think about it deep. (How does future five know about oblivion) as if that version of five knows that oblivion gives reggie what he wants. I feel like five is going to figure out that Reggie makes things how he wants them. Or something else will happen which I can’t think of, but giving five a reason to create the commission therefore keeping the timeline in tact the way it was in season 1. But then it’s just another loop 😩 this shit is insane
@entropy22
@entropy22 2 жыл бұрын
I agree , its a little bit like Loki series. Five will probably find out that Reggie is controlling the world on his will (kind of like Avatars in Charmed series) and will stop them and create the Commission so alternating time/universe wont happen again.
@mordecaiissad8529
@mordecaiissad8529 2 жыл бұрын
I believe there was a short scene of Reggie holding the "mist/marigold" how ever you wanna call it on a different world with his wife in bed seemingly dying and the world outside ending (I believe it's the episode with Vanya's violin as it was his wife's). Back then I thought the shinny mist might have come from his wife or something of the sort, but it implies he knew what the mist was for. I also think it wasn't an accident his wife is in a pod on the moon, technically he could've brought her back the second he sent Luther there. I think she was dying and he kept her in cryo until he makes a perfect timeline or finds a universe in which she can live. Now what exactly she is and what her powers/role may be is something I think we'll see in season 4. I think Alison being able to kill him was a mistake, due to Reggie messing up killing Klaus. Reggie kept 7 exactly. He then makes a calculated risk by demanding Alison be the one to stay out of the sigil (this is pretty drawn out since 5 hesitates), because he knew due to the deal for the new universe they made that Alison would be the most desperate to get the world he built, even if she does kill him in the process. Them spawning in the new universe where Reggie and his wife rule everything made me think this is why and maybe even when Five will start making the commission and make the briefcases. I might be wrong obviously but now that they don't have their powers in a universe that looks like a Reggie wet dream, what better time for a time travel expert to invent the briefcase that will let him time travel? This is another loop, but it keeps bringing me back to what Reggie said to Five "the past is as much of a mystery as the future" kind of indicating that this timeline fuckery isn't the first or the last time, at least during Reggie's life time.
@losduel
@losduel 2 жыл бұрын
I believe he said worlds not universes
@MrJackfaire
@MrJackfaire 2 жыл бұрын
Well we assume that he comes from another planet but the show has never said he comes from another planet. What if he's actually from another universe and this one is one that someone created to trap him. He can't escape it but he can reset the parameters when things don't go how he likes.
@elylab9557
@elylab9557 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrJackfaire That would be mind blowing man 🤯😂But I like that ahaha
@josephvasquez9392
@josephvasquez9392 2 жыл бұрын
I heard a rumor Mephisto was Reginald lmao
@heavyspoilers
@heavyspoilers 2 жыл бұрын
Looool
@run_sun
@run_sun 2 жыл бұрын
💀
@razif6916
@razif6916 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@ChezzaOuttaNowhere
@ChezzaOuttaNowhere 2 жыл бұрын
🤣
@msizizondi6023
@msizizondi6023 2 жыл бұрын
Ayo 😂😂😂
@andrewjohnson6716
@andrewjohnson6716 2 жыл бұрын
When he makes his decision in 1963 to not adopt the Umbrella Factory members, Ben was not with them. Which is why Ben is included in the Sparrow Academy because he doesn’t know that he was one of his original choices.
@galaxi407
@galaxi407 2 жыл бұрын
This episode seemed like the end for me. Five is my favourite character, he's more mature and less needy than the others 😁
@fridaylauren4078
@fridaylauren4078 2 жыл бұрын
Original post: 25 Jun 2022 Last-Edited: Mon, 27 Jun 2022 (7:20 GMT) I am sorry guys, I edited my comment. It is mainly because I received an email asking me to remove my comment. So you won't be able to see what theory was written here. But I am convinced it contained spoilers.
@heavyspoilers
@heavyspoilers 2 жыл бұрын
Love that theory
@cloberlobster2276
@cloberlobster2276 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe she even asked for sparrow academy to also simultaneously exist.
@numberone2676
@numberone2676 2 жыл бұрын
@# TooMuchScotty I think it's because Allison also added to the deal that Luther gets his normal body back. Because when Allison was talking to Viktor in ep10 she says she “did this for all of us. Luther and Klaus too.” So maybe she didn't make just a deal to get her husband and daughter.
@earthenthusiast3422
@earthenthusiast3422 2 жыл бұрын
The moon on the last scenes are the same moon for earth
@JavierMartinez-oj3rg
@JavierMartinez-oj3rg 2 жыл бұрын
How do we know it’s Reginald planning how do we know it’s still earth I’m only asking because we saw the original been in a training career so could be the same planet it’s just Hargreaves is more control over it and again where are how are the Hargrove solutions gonna come together again only to realize I need to find a way to get to the way things were Aubrey at five in the world they can live in without having to save it every time
@_LexiMae
@_LexiMae 2 жыл бұрын
I have a theory that Alison is dead. Klaus explains to Luther that heaven looks different to everyone. Alison's version of heaven is with Ray and Claire, who are both dead...which means Alison is dead. When you make a deal with a villain you have to be very specific. Reginald gave her exactly what she asked for...although it may not be the way she intended. The world they now find themselves in is powered by their abilities I think, which is why they have no powers, but I think they are the only ones on the planet besides Reginald, so they will probably figure it out and try to get their powers back in order to make the world that it was. This would make season 4 the last season. I'm calling it now. I don't see another storyline they could go with after that.
@okochathankgod3189
@okochathankgod3189 2 жыл бұрын
Fact
@anakinuzamakihatake5366
@anakinuzamakihatake5366 2 жыл бұрын
@Bethany Tuise well I don’t think that’s sparrow Ben but a doppelgänger notice he doesn’t have his scar and is wearing glasses and wearing a business suit
@deangeloferrand1809
@deangeloferrand1809 2 жыл бұрын
Good thing you’re not a writer 🤦🏾‍♂️
@_LexiMae
@_LexiMae 2 жыл бұрын
@@deangeloferrand1809 who says I'm not...
@ban9693
@ban9693 2 жыл бұрын
@@deangeloferrand1809 it's called a fan theroy for a reason
@Atari_Safari
@Atari_Safari 2 жыл бұрын
When they were in Hotel Oblivion, I couldn't help but see the parallels with the Greek myth of the Minotaur and the Labyrinth. The point of the myth is arrogance of man against God. This could be seen as the Umbrella/Sparrow Academy constantly trying to change things and it only getting worse. This gets a nod by Grace calling it God and her comments when she went crazy trying to stop the Umbrella/Sparrow team. It doesn't track 100% but when the team was running through the Hotel lost like in a labyrinth, being pursued by monstrous guardians it definitely seems like an inspiration.
@jeremycampbell6311
@jeremycampbell6311 2 жыл бұрын
This was definitely a major binge worthy show! I couldn’t stop watching. I can’t wait to see if they make a season 4
@taf.354
@taf.354 2 жыл бұрын
for real but supposedly it's in the air for now and it's been said that the producer has mentioned it to netflix.
@itscalebgreen
@itscalebgreen 2 жыл бұрын
This season was 🗑
@JamesBond-qp4hs
@JamesBond-qp4hs 2 жыл бұрын
Garbage season wtf season 1 still the best season cause they were actually writing the plot on the story not looking for ways how to incorporate transgender right's movement like changing Vanya character to a male and changer her name to Viktor here in season 3
@JamesBond-qp4hs
@JamesBond-qp4hs 2 жыл бұрын
And also the plot of this season is just the same as season 1 and season 2 how to stop the end of the world.. your so dumb if you think this season was amazing
@akioseiei6296
@akioseiei6296 2 жыл бұрын
@@JamesBond-qp4hs Viktor transition was barely in the show at all ?!
@2sxa3all
@2sxa3all 2 жыл бұрын
I heard a rumor that season 4 is going to be lit asf
@owensreviews625
@owensreviews625 2 жыл бұрын
8:17 So interestingly, Steve Blackman, the creator/showrunner of Umbrella Academy, has said that the Ben on the train is the actually the Sparrow Ben and not another version. So there still exists only one Ben.
@cousinkeese
@cousinkeese 2 жыл бұрын
which makes sense because Sparrow Ben had also struck a deal with Hargreaves which was hinted at multiple times in the final episodes. Whatever that deal was I think he’s on a mission to fulfill it… maybe it has something to do with the Jennifer Incident
@kevinmoore4355
@kevinmoore4355 2 жыл бұрын
he doesn't have the scar
@akosisandoval
@akosisandoval 2 жыл бұрын
I still call BS hahaha he probably wants to throw us off but who knows :))
@khaki_yuu5136
@khaki_yuu5136 2 жыл бұрын
Future 5 entered the portal and lost his arm in the battle. Knowing he's failed he teleported away and lived. He founded the commission to ensure that the apocalypse happened preserving the timeline in which Reginald never access the portal in the Oblivion hotel. Future 5 made it sure to prevent any changes in the timeline to prevent Reginald from accessing the Portal. Using his space/time power, he created the briefcases to extend and prefect time travel. That is why the Handler said in the previous seasons that the Apocalypse must happen and future 5 said to present 5 that he, present 5 shouldn't try to save the world because future 5 knew about the reset button hence the tattoo of the sigil. Future 5 save the future citizens from dying in the apocalypse by creating the commission through living in past. Does that make sense?
@malonedionne8391
@malonedionne8391 2 жыл бұрын
yes! that makes 100% sense!
@nlzhf4111
@nlzhf4111 2 жыл бұрын
Same thought and since they became normal human back make me thought this season it's it finale. ☺️
@kaino_altaccount2864
@kaino_altaccount2864 2 жыл бұрын
that’s so damn smart
@ThislsaGoodldea
@ThislsaGoodldea 2 жыл бұрын
No because the world outside of the hotel was still destroyed. So if he “teleported away” after losing his arm in that fight instead of stepping onto the star, then he would have teleported into oblivion and died as he would have if he never entered the portal. If he teleported into another area of the hotel inside the portal, then the plan still would have failed. So nope
@khaki_yuu5136
@khaki_yuu5136 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThislsaGoodldea Im talking about future 5, the one in the bunker, the one who founded the commission. His life is different from the present pubescent 5. We don't know what happened to him exactly but we know he is alive, he lost his hand, and he has the tattoo of the sigils. Present 5 has a different life and timeline. This universe they are in has a time travel factor that changes the future drastically by going to the past. Making the past (destination time) their current present. It doesn't loop on itself. Which is why when the umbrella academy returned to 2019, the time where they thought every came back to normal, was changed by their actions from going back in time to Dallas. The end of season 3 is a different timeline and universe. Probably different from season 1 and 2. Present 5 got his hand back but he has no powers just like the rest of the umbrella academy plus Lila and minus Allison. With the addition of 2 Bens. The Kugelblitz probably did not exist in Future 5 timeline. His apocalypse was Vanya, yes Vanya destroying the moon.
@TheQuancy
@TheQuancy 2 жыл бұрын
if Klaus's next ability evolution is resurrection of the dead, I think that's why Reginald called him his greatest disappointment in season 1. Because I think he could have forgone project oblivion if Klaus can bring his wife back to life
@TheQuancy
@TheQuancy 2 жыл бұрын
@DenDen Why wouldn't they?
@teddybear-ey5vb
@teddybear-ey5vb 2 жыл бұрын
YOOOOOO
@mrbenge
@mrbenge 2 жыл бұрын
[spoilers] at 4:00 the way you say he "only managed to get 7" makes it sound like he wanted more than that... he didn't. he needed 7 specifically cuz he knew there would be 7 bells exactly to be rung and that in some way, the marigold would be the power source for the machine he also didn't want more than 7 cuz he knew that whatever other powered kids were left would try to stop him pretty much the way allison did and for the same reasons as well all this to say... he got 7 babies cuz that was the exact number of "batteries" necessary for the machine to run
@IronMechKiller
@IronMechKiller 2 жыл бұрын
One theory I think you didn't mention (unless I was watching this video sleeping) was that this universe is likely what Reginald wanted. He is seen writing alot of stuff (possibly the specifics of what the universe should be like) in the holographic panel and we still don't know the full details of Allison's deal and I believe it could be that Reginald would give her family to her in the new universe/timeline.
@oranjmusemeyer968
@oranjmusemeyer968 2 жыл бұрын
I believe that's what he promised her in exchange for her help, and that's why he kept her from being part of the seven!
@cjtrules1
@cjtrules1 2 жыл бұрын
@@oranjmusemeyer968 Yeah that makes sense.
@verybigdogface8401
@verybigdogface8401 2 жыл бұрын
Ye i agree that seeing as if the man was on top of the world with his wife or whatever is something that shuld be interpreted that that world is something that Reginald wanted probably the end of his plans, also nothing about this conversation but i think the thing at the end with Ben is prob just something about s4 if they ever make that
@cjtrules1
@cjtrules1 2 жыл бұрын
@@kurthaas4331 A new timeline means a new timeline. Maybe the Civil Rights Era happened exactly how it was supposed to without Ray. Ray may be the person he is because Allison was in the booth when the timeline got recreated so it took from her memories. Maybe that's one thing Reggie programmed in the machine before he died. The machine looked like it was supposed to kill all of the children it was feeding on and absorb their power to restart the timeline. Since that didn't happen, but the timeline still got remade, the kids got to keep their memories but their powers still were all drained by the machine. I'm pretty sure many of these questions will be asked and answered next season.
@sonyaerbakhaevaa3559
@sonyaerbakhaevaa3559 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t remember, did umbrellas say something like “where tf is Alison” in the end? Because if not, I guess they could forget about her. It can make some sense in the 4 season where Alison would try to reunite with her siblings and celebrate their glorious victory, but unfortunately they wouldn’t remember her. I think it would be good for her, like come on she was sabotaging all her family in order to get a daughter and her 60s husband back. I think she should suffer a little bit for what she has done.
@katybee3891
@katybee3891 2 жыл бұрын
How was she sabotaging the family?
@vincewayne6339
@vincewayne6339 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah they remember her, i checked it
@surrealcereal1706
@surrealcereal1706 2 жыл бұрын
@@katybee3891 she sexually assaulted Luther, killed someone just to hurt Viktor, kept whining like a child and used grieve as an excuse for everything and she’s the cause for most fights in the family. Not to mention her betraying them by making the “deal”
@RT-zn9bj
@RT-zn9bj 2 жыл бұрын
@@katybee3891 um, she sexually assaulted Luther, murdered an autistic child, and used her powers to essentially torture Viktor. She tried to control them all, in many different ways.
@Thearielleaube
@Thearielleaube 2 жыл бұрын
They said the words “before Allison pushed the button” when they can out of the elevator so yeah they remember her.
@Azriel884
@Azriel884 2 жыл бұрын
I actually really liked what they did with elliot paige. I was wondering how they were gonna handle and honestly, i liked it. I liked how the team didnt really react that much and were supportive of her, now his, transition. It didnt feel overblown, it didnt feel under carried, it just seemed perfect. Well done on the show runners, and elliots part. Just my 2 cents. 🤷‍♂️
@kayla687
@kayla687 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@ihelpidiots5102
@ihelpidiots5102 2 жыл бұрын
She is totally believable as a man. I hope she gets all of the attention that she craves.
@ihelpidiots5102
@ihelpidiots5102 2 жыл бұрын
@Daniel King report my comment child molester. Way easier than a topic having 2 sides.
@kamilakocourkova
@kamilakocourkova 2 жыл бұрын
I was worried about how they'll handle it but I think it went well.
@emilyzitioun3789
@emilyzitioun3789 2 жыл бұрын
@@ihelpidiots5102 lol hhhhhh
@thegreatest299
@thegreatest299 2 жыл бұрын
S3 kept the same energy, vibe and quality of season 1 & 2. What a great series. 🙌🏻
@RealAndySkibba
@RealAndySkibba 2 жыл бұрын
I liked this season. little bit of less stakes since they had announced season 4, I was expecting the umbrellas to all survive so wasn't surprised when they did.
@aquaman7698
@aquaman7698 2 жыл бұрын
wait they already announced season 4?
@thepotatosalard
@thepotatosalard 2 жыл бұрын
@@aquaman7698 I didn’t know they announced season 4 as well
@RealAndySkibba
@RealAndySkibba 2 жыл бұрын
So I was wrong and I thought they had. Turns out it was The Boys and not UA.
@themaster_ethan
@themaster_ethan 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah especially each character had their own moments
@legit2777
@legit2777 2 жыл бұрын
@@EMPEROR_SIN I think there will be
@LActress47
@LActress47 2 жыл бұрын
Alison still had her wounds. I found that interesting. When she walks into her new warped life she still has blood on her lip and bandaged arm. Harlen said her frequency was wrong remember and Mr. Monocle wouldn't let her step on the bell ✨️. I can't wait to find out why.
@glass7779
@glass7779 2 жыл бұрын
You're right!! Omg I can't wait either
@LActress47
@LActress47 2 жыл бұрын
@@glass7779 now the hard part waiting for the next season.
@hurley0013
@hurley0013 2 жыл бұрын
Allison is the only one remain the same as before because she was the one inside the console command and is the one who pressed the button. shes the only person to remain from the original timeline untouched. Mr. monacle didnt let her step on the star because there were 8 children now that Klaus returned. he prefer for klaus to take the 7th star instead of her. her frequency was off because she used her powers on herself ealier in the season (i think).
@ronniethornton8548
@ronniethornton8548 2 жыл бұрын
@@hurley0013 no she got some of Victor powers when she steped into Victor and harlen transfer power thing, that's why she could rumor without saying I heard a rumor
@BadNewsBella
@BadNewsBella 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think Ray is a hallucination because it looks like Claire also saw him
@1stKindChris
@1stKindChris 2 жыл бұрын
I love how each season we a different character level up. Season 1 was 5 and Vanya. Season 2 was Diego and Klaus. Season 3 was Klaus again and Allison. Next season should be Luther and Ben
@huetrashtendo5624
@huetrashtendo5624 2 жыл бұрын
Ben was growing to until he "died" in Season 2
@hankar4741
@hankar4741 2 жыл бұрын
I still don't get what Diego does... Like, he juggles and throws knives? Didn't 3/4 of the ones from the last episode miss their target? Tell me one thing he does that countless highly trained military officers couldn't realistically do better.
@huetrashtendo5624
@huetrashtendo5624 2 жыл бұрын
@@hankar4741 He can throw around Corners and stop bullets
@1stKindChris
@1stKindChris 2 жыл бұрын
@@hankar4741 well he did level up at the end of season 2 to show he had some telekinetic ability. It's probably what makes him an expert marksman. Just like Allison showed this season that her powers were basically some sort of mental telepathy.
@1stKindChris
@1stKindChris 2 жыл бұрын
@@huetrashtendo5624 yeah Ben basically summons monsters from other dimensions. So theoretically his body is a gateway.
@KrazyKobold
@KrazyKobold 2 жыл бұрын
Here's my thoughts RE: Alison/Hargreeves/et al The fact that Hargreaves' wife is able to exist and not instantly cause a bunch of paradoxes with the Umbrella Academy (and Two Bens) strongly implies that the Machine gets to re-write reality -- rules going out the window at least for the reset. As such, I'm guess Alison gets to have it rewritten that Ray is the father of Claire and she gets Claire too -- genetics et al be damned. Hargreeves had "made a deal" and was specifically "keeping her out of the bells" to be used as fuel etc SO -- HE likely rewrote a reality where she got to fill in as the movie star and the kid and Ray etc. Like him holding up his end of the deal. As she did the thing she gets to take the reality's version of her. But my guess is that Hargreaves dying in the machine means he did not get to take his spot, so the reality "made" a new Hargreeves that gets him all those things. So that guy never lost Abigail, never needed to make the Umbrella Academy or create the Hotel Oblivion, etc instead just the garden space (maybe the portal is still up in the air even?) But that's my thoughts. I'm curious about Sloane
@kevintyson1947
@kevintyson1947 2 жыл бұрын
I think the machine brought Hargreeves back to life like how it brought Luthor back. You said so yourself that it really re-writes reality instead of resetting it. Reviving someone seems like a piece a cake compared to taking a black man from the 60s and making him a father of a bi-racial girl.
@dereklewis8914
@dereklewis8914 2 жыл бұрын
Finally, the theory I've been looking for. This was how I understood it. I don't understand the Ray hallucination theory from the video at all.
@kingmac6638
@kingmac6638 Жыл бұрын
Well no, the machine brought Reginald back to life just like it brought luthor back
@hatzcorpz8018
@hatzcorpz8018 2 жыл бұрын
My pity towards Allison was lost in this season. I know she's lost alot but she was horrible this season. But frankly that's not what I'm mad at her the most. The fact she traded nearly everything that the academy had (Luther's wife, Luther's death but atleast he survived and killed Harlan out of spite.) And selfishly get everything SHE wanted. Honestly its cruel to say I hope she loses them again, I hope her happiness is short lived.
@Hunterfalke
@Hunterfalke 2 жыл бұрын
She is without a doubt a, or maybe the villain of this season. But i do believe that that was the intention. She has lost a ton, and she did have a precedent of using her powers unjustly. I get where she is coming from, i get her rationalising it to herself. I just hope that the next season explores that dynamic more.
@katybee3891
@katybee3891 2 жыл бұрын
She killed Harlan because she wanted to save the world and she needed to sacrifice him so that the sparrows cooperated with them. It was necessary, she only spared him because she trusted Viktor but he lied to her and wasted everyone’s time that could’ve been used to make a Plan. Also they all would have died within a few days anyways if it hadn’t been for Allison being the only one who was committed to stop the universe from being destroyed in a black hole. We don’t know what deal she made but it was clear that she didn’t agree with her father killing Luther, she was shocked by it. No one said her deal was killing Allison. You’re just choosing to interpret her actions in the worst possible way and on top of that you blame her for things she didn’t even know of.
@hatzcorpz8018
@hatzcorpz8018 2 жыл бұрын
@@katybee3891 dont you think she should've known NOT to trust her father for how many years? Alright I get Killing Harlan but it was more spite than for saving the world. So yeah I have my reasons. Didn't know my ass
@brunobuss7005
@brunobuss7005 2 жыл бұрын
@@katybee3891 she killed Harlan for pure revenge. Because according to her, her daughter didn't exist because of him.
@anthonylarusso5392
@anthonylarusso5392 Жыл бұрын
@@katybee3891 you brain dead ? Harlen is harmless without viktor's powers yet she killed him out of cold heart. She is the most selfish character in this show. Atleast that b*tch finally got what she wanted, but that doesn't give anyone an excuse to support her. It's like trying to justify what Wanda did because she is depressed.
@themaster_ethan
@themaster_ethan 2 жыл бұрын
I have never bingewatch a series for quite a while. TUA is such an epic underrated masterpiece. Every season gets better and better..
@krzyxb0rdr
@krzyxb0rdr 2 жыл бұрын
I think it should have been pretty obvious is that Hargreeves was programming what the Universe would look like up until he died. It's also how Allison is getting her life her way. Hargreeves programed in whatever he promised her for her part of the deal. I think the real issue may be what did Hargreeves not get to program in before he died - making this world potentially incomplete.
@miltplayz8223
@miltplayz8223 2 жыл бұрын
I have a theory that Sloane was not there because when the whole universe reset, even different realities reset, therefore Sloane went back to the reality with all the sparrow academy students alive including another Ben.
@jackmilewski5535
@jackmilewski5535 2 жыл бұрын
Cool theory but then why did the sparrow’s Ben come out of the elevator with the umbrellas? Plus Sloane was more than happy with the umbrellas why would a world that is supposed to be perfect plop her in a place without Luther? No hate it is a great theory but it has some plot wholes.
@miltplayz8223
@miltplayz8223 2 жыл бұрын
@@jackmilewski5535 i mean Ben was getting comfy with the umbrellas so maybe the universe thought he was the Ben canon to the umbrellas timeline
@rvrcn
@rvrcn 2 жыл бұрын
i think the umbrellas only survived in a new timeline because of allison's wish which is why sloane wasn't there and why Ben was. Reginald can most likely do anything while resetting the timeline and made it so that a "ben" came back to allison's wishes but just brought back the most convenient one, Sparrow Ben, and healed him up a bit like the Umbrellas.
@miltplayz8223
@miltplayz8223 2 жыл бұрын
@@rvrcn that makes sense
@StarRaider12345
@StarRaider12345 2 жыл бұрын
@@miltplayz8223 no dude that wouldn’t make sense cuz luthors wife was comfy with almost all of them ben on the other hand only rlly had one cute moment with them and he was drunk…so ur theory is a bit flawed
@str8runs
@str8runs 2 жыл бұрын
I think theres going to be a twist witn Sloane as i think there was a bit too much attention drawn to her and luthers relationship even though bigger things were going on. I think there will be a twist in season 4
@mariaclaudiaquintanaestrad7053
@mariaclaudiaquintanaestrad7053 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe she exist in this universe, but she lives a normal live and maybe she is with someone else. Thats my theory
@Lapinporokoira
@Lapinporokoira 2 жыл бұрын
Hargreaves did say he would take care of her when he killed Luther.
@TrueGamer22887
@TrueGamer22887 2 жыл бұрын
I’m extremely worried for season 4. There was almost no advertising for this show and I fear Netflix will pull a classic Netflix move
@pulse4051
@pulse4051 2 жыл бұрын
@@TrueGamer22887 will season 4 come?
@TrueGamer22887
@TrueGamer22887 2 жыл бұрын
@@pulse4051 I hope so but am worried they’ll cancel it. The lack of advertising really has me worried
@mrsealmayr
@mrsealmayr 2 жыл бұрын
I really like the idea that the heroes/bells who powered the machine lost their powers and only Allison still has her new Harlen-enhanced powers that are borderline omnipotent. What did happen to Sloan? Hargreaves must be the one who determined the parameters of the universe reset. Maybe he tucked her away somewhere to keep Luther and her apart? I do think all the original seed-ed moms still gave birth because that would be necessary for the new reality to exist. Who knows what Hargreaves changed or stacked in his favor and against his children!!! Looking forward to season 5, but hoping the comics catch up in the meantime.
@RUNxLBC
@RUNxLBC 2 жыл бұрын
Shouldn’t you be looking forward to season 4 first
@mrsealmayr
@mrsealmayr 2 жыл бұрын
@@RUNxLBC Whatever comes first, I'll take it! I like the show and the comic, but I feel the comic does more with less and is where the 'true' story will (hopefully) be told in 8 story arcs.
@Baraborn
@Baraborn 2 жыл бұрын
Comics? Way far off from those by now.
@koladearasanmi2005
@koladearasanmi2005 2 жыл бұрын
Is the comic not finish yet?
@mrsealmayr
@mrsealmayr 2 жыл бұрын
@@koladearasanmi2005 I saw an interview where creater said it would be about 8 books and only 3 out so far.
@hoseoktheworldscutestboy721
@hoseoktheworldscutestboy721 2 жыл бұрын
Okay so I have a Theory. When Klaus asked why he adopted other 7 kids Reggie says it's because of the meet-up in Texas. I think he lied coz if the mothers of the umbrella academy died, that means they weren't really born which created a paradox. So I think Reggie wanted to create the paradox intentionally so he could reset the universe and bring his wife back. That means Reggie is selfish and only cared about his wife and himself.
@deangeloferrand1809
@deangeloferrand1809 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly! He even says the reason he had Luther on the moon was to protect the most important thing in the universe (to him) which was his wife
@1stKindChris
@1stKindChris 2 жыл бұрын
Wow great observation. He never had a chance to get the Umbrella Academy.
@elliezzz7812
@elliezzz7812 2 жыл бұрын
Yessss that’s what I thought I was scrolling thru the comments hoping I wasn’t the only one who noticed that
@derrickhightower2681
@derrickhightower2681 2 жыл бұрын
But it was Harlen that caused the paradox Reginald didn’t have anything to do with that
@brunobuss7005
@brunobuss7005 2 жыл бұрын
Having the paradox or not, wouldn't affect the universe resetting. He was training the sparrows for that until Pogo leaves and let the kids drug him.
@rnash2009
@rnash2009 2 жыл бұрын
Allison getting Ray and Claire is just part of her deal with Reginald. He reprogrammed the universe that the machine created to give her the husband and daughter he promised her.
@JLattimore
@JLattimore 2 жыл бұрын
This is the only explanation I’ve read that makes sense lol
@izzydhomy2345
@izzydhomy2345 2 жыл бұрын
Ive been thinking hard about how sloan didnt make it, and i have a theory that allison made it part of her deal to leave sloan behind to get back at Luther, considering that allison is on the edge of basically being a villan
@FuckTheSimulation
@FuckTheSimulation 5 ай бұрын
Yes, because they live in a simulation, just like you. The real world cannot be programmed.
@mayapanchal1257
@mayapanchal1257 2 жыл бұрын
I think that Hargreaves already had settings inputted when Alison killed sliced him. As he had a deal with Alison, he set Ray as the father of Clair and both alive. How Allison makes the bee line to check on Clair and Ray after getting out the elevator seems like she was sure about her daughter and Ray being alive. Hargreaves didn't want any other to be left alive, which is why he was letting them die before Alison sliced him. And since he didn't have any other plan to kill the seven other than let them die here, they survive.
@cousinkeese
@cousinkeese 2 жыл бұрын
I think Hargreaves struck a deal with Allison to bring back Claire & also protect the OG members of TUA which is why she told Viktor to ‘trust that she made a deal with their dad to save everyone including Luther & Klaus’. I think he didn’t mind them dying to power the machine because he knew that they’d be fine once his plan fell through. I’m not sure if she knew for sure that Ray was gonna be there because she looked genuinely shocked when he appeared in the doorway.
@mayapanchal1257
@mayapanchal1257 2 жыл бұрын
@@cousinkeese If Hargreaves already promised to save the OG members then why would Allison try and stop him? She looked legit scared about them. Also considering they made they deal while Allison was drunk and super angry with Viktor, saving everyone prob wasnt on her mind at the time except for the rage of losing Clair and Ray. Though, why Luther was there then? Maybe you are right.
@katybee3891
@katybee3891 2 жыл бұрын
@@mayapanchal1257 because she doesn’t trust him
@meashafong883
@meashafong883 2 жыл бұрын
I think its kind of cool how similar Robert Sheehans powers from the Umbrella Academy are to his powers in Misfitz.
@MOMO-436
@MOMO-436 2 жыл бұрын
Oh damn you’re right! I forgot about that!
@mrjamieson4741
@mrjamieson4741 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t remember the film but he plays another character that can talk to ghosts and he try’s to help them out. I think he enjoys these roles 😂
@kamilakocourkova
@kamilakocourkova 2 жыл бұрын
I thought that was so amazing! I loved it. Klaus and Nathan are both my favourite characters.
@britniemichel2585
@britniemichel2585 2 жыл бұрын
Fr !
@MarksWong
@MarksWong 2 жыл бұрын
I think that having Ray back at the end was part of the deal that Reg struck with Allison. When he was activating the machine at the very end, it seemed like he was putting the parameters of the new universe in... so I imagine the deal was the following: Allison helps reunite the group to activate the machine, and in the new universe, Reg writes Ray into existence as the father of her daughter giving her the happy life she wanted. Pretty good deal to restart the universe, also given that Reg becomes basically its ruler!
@elylab9557
@elylab9557 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that’s what I think too but on the other side Allison hallucinated Reg not long before she might be hallucinating Reg but not her daughter but still yeah it’s too suspicious they are probably stuck in the Dad universe and will need to drink potions of thoses particles that breaded their mother, gave them powers and that seems to power the reality alternator. But time travel + parallel universes are two things already way too complicated by themselves and when mixed together it can creates plot holes and start contradicting itself , I hope we get a satisfying answer next season.
@Sillygoosespoofse
@Sillygoosespoofse 2 жыл бұрын
During the show, harlan said he "felt" viktor at the moment the orbs made the women pregnant and then give birth, so he reached out, but it wasnt him, it was their mothers. So basically, when his mom died, harlans powers spiked from his grief, then, because they reached out just as hargreeves children were implated into the earth women, they picked up on viktor, but the feeling was different because the powers were actually connecting with the parents of the kids, instead of viktor himself, so harlan accidently killed them all. It wasnt a concerted effort by anyone, just a tragic accident.
@qusaibasha7299
@qusaibasha7299 2 жыл бұрын
4:52 would’ve been the best place to add in “It was for love!” “cool motive, still murder!”
@nicholashorter
@nicholashorter 2 жыл бұрын
This series hands down continues to be one of my favorite and sought after shows every season!!! I try binging it slowly to take it in but it was such an enjoyable ride. I’m excited for the next season!!!
@luisz222
@luisz222 2 жыл бұрын
i swear umbrella academy, Doom Patrol and the Boys continue to be the best superhero tv and tv in general out there. Something about obscure and unknown comics adaptations become fantastic tv shows. Also the weird wtf scenes are so fun, like in doom patrol when they start a cult about a big eye in the sky to save the world from obliteration or billy butcher crashing head first into a live whale and traumatizing the deep and hughie for life in the boys.
@TrueGamer22887
@TrueGamer22887 2 жыл бұрын
@@luisz222 legion is still the king of superhero shows
@nicholashorter
@nicholashorter 2 жыл бұрын
@@luisz222 oh heck yes I agree!!! It’s interesting too, I enjoy the marvel Disney plus shows but they don’t even come close to quality to these shows especially “The Boys” IMO.
@jishdesanzo975
@jishdesanzo975 2 жыл бұрын
@@luisz222 Invincible can be added to that list as well
@SahalanShaan03
@SahalanShaan03 2 жыл бұрын
Theory For Sloane: I think the televator thing you're mentioning gets invented by Five next season and Luther uses it alone to go back at Oblivion ( He uses it alone to avoid paradox psychosis cuz he was dead at the time Reg was sucking other souls for resetting the universe therefore no one other than him can be present in both timelines) and brings back Sloane to the timeline where the universe was reset. That's why when they all arrived on an elevator, Sloane wasn't with them cuz she and Luther were already at the place where the televator was. As of Doppelgangers, I think that's what is supposed to happen next season.
@sergioodella
@sergioodella 2 жыл бұрын
I think Reginal was going to betray Allison. If Klaus didnt make it back Allison would of had to step on a star and then be reseted with the rest of the academy. The thing that leaves me with a question is that 5 got his arm back. If he goes into making the Agency he has to loose it again somehow because that would make a new paradox.
@PapillonOne
@PapillonOne 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. You explanations ha e been the best! My head was spinning at the end of this season & you helped slow it down. 😉
@kwadwog8168
@kwadwog8168 2 жыл бұрын
They are a simulation within a simulation machine that Hargreaves found. He did not create the universe, but found a machine which allowed him to input things and reset. Once he makes a universe, he steps out of the machine to enjoy it but things in the simulation map to machine features. As example, the reset button was recreated in machine and he had to figure it out.
@HighTide_808
@HighTide_808 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the matrix bruh
@Victfil
@Victfil 2 жыл бұрын
This is the theory that makes more sense. They even mention that "the universe is thought to be a hologram" on the tv when klaus and luther meet in the afterlife.
@jayphoenix6324
@jayphoenix6324 2 жыл бұрын
Gosh, umbrella academy has to be one of the best series I've watched Can't wait for season 4
@emy1975
@emy1975 2 жыл бұрын
I think one of the reason Reginald also chose different children is because of Five’s ability to change the timeline and he is a liability. The discovery of their father being in the elite group would mean that he can’t go incognito which he always have wanted. He was very secretive especially to his “children”.
@nu4473
@nu4473 2 жыл бұрын
The particles he had in a jar in a flashback were the things that made the women pregnant and the kids to have powers. When they were in Oblivion standing on top of the stars, the particles were being sucked out of them and being used as fuel I'd assume. The only one who should have powers would be Allison, but who really knows right?
@jasonwhite6770
@jasonwhite6770 2 жыл бұрын
My theory so far, I think that the particles that are seen being taken out of everyone that was standing on the stars had their powers taken away and that Alison might still have hers, when Reggie was in the cockpit, he reset the new universe to have his wife back alive and whatever was Alisons part of their deal since we never hear what Alisons and Reggie's deal was.
@zenwishes9948
@zenwishes9948 2 жыл бұрын
also Alison didn't get her particles taken from her like the others
@SolarNawr
@SolarNawr 2 жыл бұрын
I personally thought of Reginald as a chaotic neutral because I think he did somewhat care about them and even without Allison he would have brought them back but he done it through chaotic means
@bobharris7447
@bobharris7447 2 жыл бұрын
He literally used them not caring if they died or stayed alive to get his wife back.
@rangershake5652
@rangershake5652 2 жыл бұрын
@@bobharris7447 well he could just bring them back to life if he killed them
@Manx36
@Manx36 2 жыл бұрын
He doesn’t care about the kids, he has a goal, getting his mate back and he would kill them all to get her. He’s not human, he does not care about human life. He used the kids like Petri dishes to get the power he needs
@SolarNawr
@SolarNawr 2 жыл бұрын
@@bobharris7447 yes but he still brought them back
@Bicketybam68
@Bicketybam68 2 жыл бұрын
Finding out that Five was the head of the Commission, it makes you wonder if he "Nickel & Dimed" Hazel & Cha Cha in the first season constantly to create that tension that helped tear them apart and make it easier for Five to do what he had to do?
@BlairMountainNetwork
@BlairMountainNetwork 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao 🤣 The pronunciation of "Klaus" & flash to Wolverine was hilarious!!!
@kirillzolotarev461
@kirillzolotarev461 2 жыл бұрын
Reginald says himself something in a sense “whoever built this place”… so I don’t think the hotel is his vessel, also he genuinely doesn’t seem to know how to access it, it’s weird that he knows how to operate it so fast and accurately, but he said it several times, that it’s a was built by someone else…
@MasonLopez
@MasonLopez 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you! He has the classic "Diary full of notes". My theory is the search for this machine is what he's spent most of his immortal life working on, even before came to earth. He only knows how to use it due to that research. That, and the hotel itself, which my theory is he did actually build the hotel. The hotel is just a way for us to perceive and interact with the machine. I can't see the inner workings of Twitter. But Twitter was built in such a way that I can build an app called "Oblivion" that communicates with it. Then I just need to know how to use Oblivion. Twitter can build universes and exists in a dimension I can't even perceive or comprehend, but Oblivion exists in a way we can actually interact with. I'm a developer, so I might be projecting here. But this is my theory! :D
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299 2 жыл бұрын
@@MasonLopez I reached similar conclusions. Hargreeves knew there were more advanced aliens than himself, aliens that created reality through a back door pocket dimension. I wish this idea was more built up throughout the season. I think there is some inside joke about the guardians and the cockroaches, like on the lvl of Douglas Adams writing about Mice creating the earth for an experiment; what if alien cockroaches created their reality? LOL
@xxtoxii9615
@xxtoxii9615 2 жыл бұрын
maybe his other self
@hannahg5479
@hannahg5479 2 жыл бұрын
Hmm. My thought (although I don't know how to reconcile it since there will be a 4th season) was that Allison had died-- and that her going home to finding her daughter and husband was her "Heaven". After all, Klaus says to Luther when they are fighting in the bouncy castle in the afterlife something like "I can't believe this is someone's heaven!" implying that heaven is what we make it (just not for Klaus because he doesn't experience the afterlife the same way).
@themaster_ethan
@themaster_ethan 2 жыл бұрын
That was such a good point there mate
@entropy22
@entropy22 2 жыл бұрын
But why would she die? Because she was not under the bright light like everyone else? At what point was she killed?
@bagchasinteezy3011
@bagchasinteezy3011 2 жыл бұрын
She not dead because she still had the bandage on her arm
@Nic-tg5to
@Nic-tg5to 2 жыл бұрын
That's my thoughts too. I reckon they killed her off.
@ashtastic7610
@ashtastic7610 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I was never a fan of Allison as a character, fist season she whined about the end of the world not mattering and wanting to be with her daughter. 2nd season she whined about her husband . 3rd season she whined about both . She wasn't even a good sister to Victor, she was sympathetic but only cared if it related to her needs or made her feel superior. She uses everyone, she didn't give to flying flips about Luther's happiness in any way because she was jealous when he met Sloan . Which ment her safety net boyfriend or comfort object was no longer hers. Not to mention every time leap or reality her priorities were way off and she lashed out at everyone , when she didn't get her way.
@MrJackfaire
@MrJackfaire 2 жыл бұрын
Shes' always been happy when others are happy unless she's not then fuck their happiness.
@danielhowell5324
@danielhowell5324 2 жыл бұрын
Klaus has been and continues to be my favorite. Loved his arc this season. Didn’t think about Luther being another evolution of his powers, so that is cool.
@6ixallah
@6ixallah 2 жыл бұрын
Here's my theory, because the time got reset, the umbrella academy got sent back to the original time line where everything was normal. The reason they didn't get their powers is because their "twins" aka their selves from that period exist and they have that power. So only one twin of each has the power. Also Ben returned and not Salone because Ben was part of the Umbrella academy but he returned with the "new" ben mind. In the credits, that Ben is the old Ben from that period aka he has the powers. Hence why he's in Seoul and why he's dressed that way. I believe s4 will be the umbrella academy meeting themselves and their parents
@gjcsoka
@gjcsoka 2 жыл бұрын
Why have you structured this like a spastic
@alysia_nevermore5860
@alysia_nevermore5860 2 жыл бұрын
No there is a steve blackman interview going around in twitter. The ben we see on the train is the sparrow ben.
@johnnygil5409
@johnnygil5409 2 жыл бұрын
There might be 2 Ben on that timeline
@6ixallah
@6ixallah 2 жыл бұрын
@@alysia_nevermore5860 idk saw that he didn’t say that it was that Ben actually he didn’t give a full answer to that question
@RexKSD
@RexKSD 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think its that complicated. Allison made a deal to bring back her family and umbrella academy with their memory intact in the reset universe. When it reset, in the original timeline (s1 and s2) there wasn't sparrow academy, it has always been the umbrella academy, sparrow academy was just an anomaly left off from season 2. From the reset, Reginald wife is alive thus doesn't need to create the 43 children with powers which explains why they all don't have powers. But there's another anomaly that Reginald missed out. Ben. When bringing back the umbrella academy, the sparrow version of Ben was brought back. While the umbrella version Ben is in the reset but not the one they know. I bet next season will be about the paradox with 2 Bens (thus why the post credit) and cause another universe chaos (which has always been the storyline for each season). Lol
@moneyisnowhere
@moneyisnowhere 2 жыл бұрын
I think for Allison, considering the deal she made with Hargreeves; the deal was that Hargreeves would get his wife back by resetting the universe and that Allison would get her husband and daughter back which would out rule your theory that the husband is just a hallucination like it was before. Just my theory tho
@user-nt5ih4od9y
@user-nt5ih4od9y 2 жыл бұрын
I still don't get what Hargreeves get from the deal with Allison, like he has nothing to gain from making that kind of deal with her she isn't bringing anything in particular to the table. He doesn't seem like the type to just do that for someone.
@stargate4ever
@stargate4ever 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for clearing so much stuff up for us! 👍🏽
@Raptorflo8
@Raptorflo8 2 жыл бұрын
great analysis, thank you!
@Yazmeeny
@Yazmeeny 2 жыл бұрын
I think Hargreaves typed in Alison’s request along with his, on the machine before Allison killed him. That was their deal.
@35salek
@35salek 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with everything except that it was his ship. He didn't know what to do once there were in the hotel. He was looking for clues. The hotel/machine for space reset was created by someone else...
@Jonathan-df1fp
@Jonathan-df1fp 2 жыл бұрын
i love how fast everyone was able to forget vanya and embrace viktor this season. honestly it was done so smoothly that even i used viktor as soon as i was confused about something. amazingly done
@HelloPowell
@HelloPowell 2 жыл бұрын
Its called script. ^^ But I think it was totally od that nobody questioned it or though about it being a sideeffect of time traveling or a paradox. Elliot could have just continue playing the role of vanya. I mean thats the job of an actor, right? To play a role outside of your personal life. Also... If they reset everything, should Viktor be Vanya again?
@akmal94ibrahim
@akmal94ibrahim 2 жыл бұрын
I found it weird that everybody immediately got accustomed to calling him Viktor and he/him. Nobody had a slip of the tongue or anything while they're adjusting to the new Vanya/Viktor. It's as if with a flip of the switch, Vanya became Viktor to everyone.
@HelloPowell
@HelloPowell 2 жыл бұрын
@@akmal94ibrahim Agree. But... If they reset the whole world/timeline shouldn't Viktor turn back to vanya?
@akmal94ibrahim
@akmal94ibrahim 2 жыл бұрын
@@HelloPowell Nope. Because Viktor and the rest of them at the end weren't reset. The world was. Unless that is, if in Season 4, they all go back to being babies.
@HelloPowell
@HelloPowell 2 жыл бұрын
@@akmal94ibrahim What? What you mean they weren't resetted? I thought they were resetted too because for example 5 got his arm back, Diego his Fingers and Luther his natural body (The ape body was a side effect of Reginalds injection in season 1)? ^^
@anony885
@anony885 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you.. Loved the video.
@taleyag8800
@taleyag8800 2 жыл бұрын
Why is Five still a teenager tho? If everyone else was “fixed” then why didn’t he age up appropriately?
@timtoe40
@timtoe40 2 жыл бұрын
If Ray was made near immortal, he could exist in present day with the same appearance without triggering a paradox. While Claire looks at him fondly, it doesn't automatically mean that she is biologically Ray's, just that Ray is helping raise her. But yeah I think killing Hargreaves before he hit the reset button made him the villain the umbrella academy thought he was. And maybe his ego was what killed his world the 1st time.
@zacharypollard7885
@zacharypollard7885 2 жыл бұрын
My personal theory is that Allison died when she reset the universe and is in her version of the afterlife with her daughter and husband who were also lost in one way or the other. This would also bring a little peace to the fandom considering Allison was sorta the villain of the season.
@boey6236
@boey6236 2 жыл бұрын
man this vid really cleared up a lot for me thanks!!
@kgurl
@kgurl 2 жыл бұрын
Oh wow 🙄 I'd forgotten all about Allison's hallucinations! That's what happens when you binge watch an entire season of an epic series ALL in one day🤪 there was so much going on as per any truly binge worthy series
@anonymouslyforgotten5592
@anonymouslyforgotten5592 2 жыл бұрын
I dont even remember hargreevs home planet scene. I guess victors whole *_“Requiem of the moon to you”_* overshadowed everything.
@duganchase8577
@duganchase8577 2 жыл бұрын
I think sloan is alive but she is just living wherever she would have if she had never been adopted by hargreaves
@osakakawaii
@osakakawaii 2 жыл бұрын
This answered a lot of my questions. Thanks!
@BelieveB23
@BelieveB23 2 жыл бұрын
You actually cleared up quite a bit for me. Great video.
@saikathghosh8733
@saikathghosh8733 2 жыл бұрын
Man the cliffhanger was really tempting!!! Came here to see your thoughts!!
@juliesymonds2440
@juliesymonds2440 2 жыл бұрын
Love the video. Most of the remaining questions I had were answered. But I'm still confused as to why the Sparrows, the Umbrella Academy and other select few like the desk clerk from Hotel Oblivion never got wiped out by the Kugelblitz. I have my own theories, like that he could be a robot like Grace Hargreeves. But we never got any clear answers about him as a character.
@aghentaghent
@aghentaghent 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video , thanks !!
@CS..8
@CS..8 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all this!! It was really helpful!! 💝
@bunnyg7621
@bunnyg7621 2 жыл бұрын
Then i'm guessing that 5 is originally the one who pressed the button because we saw that his arm was still cut off in the bunker
@positivepenny5477
@positivepenny5477 2 жыл бұрын
Ohhh good point!!
@SandrockCustom
@SandrockCustom 2 жыл бұрын
That makes hella sense! Go to Oblivion, but don't be the one to save the world... or you'll be missing an arm 😆
@RightWingRadioShow
@RightWingRadioShow 2 жыл бұрын
@@SandrockCustom no, the fact that he didnt save the world is why he was still missing his arm.
@SandrockCustom
@SandrockCustom 2 жыл бұрын
@@RightWingRadioShow Yup, that's what I said. 😳
@RightWingRadioShow
@RightWingRadioShow 2 жыл бұрын
@@SandrockCustom no its not. Being the one who saves the world is why he isnt missing his arm. If he didnt stand on the device, he would still be missing his arm.
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