The Unexpected Reason She Left England for Portugal

[@HoneymoonAlways]

Love hearing about someone else who had to transition from being comfortable with Brazilian Portuguese and transitioning to European Portuguese. It's time for us to get serious about improving our Portuguese skills!

[@TalktheStreets]

Yessss I love to hear this! If you need help get my contact from Josh!

[@ExpatsEverywhere]

Dan, you and Liz could really have a hybrid convo in BR PT and EU PT 😂 If it happens, I wanna be there to listen! - Josh

[@lisajennings7276]

You will All be happy to know that I’m subscribed to all of your channels! You’re all such lovely people. 🌸

[@ExpatsEverywhere]

@@lisajennings7276 thank you, Lisa. We are happy 😃

[@ji3946]

Two things. Josh, you come across way more professional without the hat, and I've noticed you wearing it less and less on the most recent shows. Bravo, good call. Two, great interview for many reasons, but mostly because of the positive attitude from both of you!

[@aeaeaaaelxndrwtnb]

I like him but he looks like a man child with the hat on

[@cobracommander8133]

@@aeaeaaaelxndrwtnb LOL look at these two boomers

[@tamaramadelin4831]

Awesome interview!! Two things I really related to and love are...The first, "home is a feeling" and I had that feeling the first time I visited Lisbon!! The second, is the quote about Liz's life being on pause and when she went to Lisbon it was like someone pushed play...EXACTLY!!! I hope she won't mind if I personalize her feeling into my own!!!

[@TalktheStreets]

Haha not at all, Im glad it resonated with you and that you can now put your feelings into words!

[@tamaramadelin4831]

Before I was living in/with saudade and finally I am at home! I lived in France for 13 years and never felt at home, but the first time I visited Lisbon I finally felt at home!!

[@anaramos2802]

I've never seen a foreigner who speaks such a good Portuguese as Liz. It's not only the grammar, it's the accent (European Portuguese), too. Her channel is so interesting, showing her friendly and cheerful personality. All the best.

[@johnmeyer2072]

Thank you very much Josh. You seem to interview all my favorite You Tube channel presenters. I really love Liz's channel and her personality and approach when it comes to teaching a language. And you and Kalie are checking all the boxes for me too so far.

[@colleencarone823]

Love Liz from Talk the Streets even more now! Great interview, Josh and Liz. Thanks for doing these interviews.

[@TalktheStreets]

I love you too Colleen!

[@ExpatsEverywhere]

😊 Us too!! Thank you very much, Colleen. You're very welcome. Thanks for watching them. We love when people tell their story. - Josh & Kalie

[@rickchandler2570]

Thanks!

[@ExpatsEverywhere]

Whaaaa!!!! Thank you very much for this, Knobster! That's incredible. - Josh & Kalie

[@KatieRaeRae]

Liz is my fave Portuguese language channel. I love her teaching style and personality. Great video, as always. :)

[@ExpatsEverywhere]

Thanks for sharing, Katie Rae! We're glad to know that you like Liz. - Josh & Kalie

[@markbr5898]

Mine too! I totally agree about teaching style and personality.

[@TalktheStreets]

Aww thanks you guys! So lucky to have such an amazing community here!

[@annamaddox1338]

I am so happy that you had Liz on your channel. I follow her on KZbin. As I follow you guys as well. always looking forward to your next video. Lots of great tips and information. Many blessings from sunny California.

[@ExpatsEverywhere]

Thanks, Anna! We were glad to have Liz on again. We really enjoyed meeting here in real life this time. Thanks for following us. - Josh & Kalie

[@gailday7566]

Loved this interview. Have our visa appointment in august and so much great info here and of course the positivity was awesome

[@TalktheStreets]

Boa sorte with the move, Gail! Let me know if you need any help with Portuguese! Are you learning already?

[@gailday7566]

@@TalktheStreets I have subscribed to your youtube channel and will be checking in once we've got all the projects at home finished so we can leave everything in charge of our kids :-) and once we've got our visa approval (hopefully August 12th appointment). My plan is to do an intense 1 month of learning 1. pronunciation 2. top 100-1000 words and 3. connectors then jump on a sight (like yours) to practice. I had thought of using Babbel. Sound good or do you have a better suggestion.

[@kalinegss]

What a enjoyable chat! Thank you!

[@ExpatsEverywhere]

Thanks, Kaline. - Josh & Kalie

[@Luckyamor]

In Portugal we learn English in schools and in cinema watching film with subtitles in portuguese, it is also easier for foreigners to go to cinema.

[@ExpatsEverywhere]

It's such a huge advantage for Portuguese people wanting to improve English. The English here is so high. - Josh & Kalie

[@tamaramadelin4831]

I just learned this fact from Josh and love it so much...Explains a lot about why many Portuguese speak many languages and in particular English!!

[@tamaramadelin4831]

Funny I've found that a lot of Portuguese speak English and if they don't someone around them does...We always have French and Spanish to fall back on!! As far as immersion we just moved to a very Portuguese neighborhood in Lisbon and it is so great!! In addition, we are in the process of starting a business so we will be further immersed and contributing...We feel so good and at home! Yes, we must make the effort to learn Portuguese, but the people here are so nice, welcoming and helpful! I already had to integrate in France and learn French so this should be a piece of cake...Takes effort though, but I get that!!

[@JenShea]

@@tamaramadelin4831 Good luck with the business start-up! What part of Portugal are you in? Will it be a business-to-consumer type of business? I lived up near Peniche and found about 20% of the people I encountered (on day-to-day encounters) spoke very little English. Naturally I wasn't bothered by this, after all, I wasn't in an English country. In fact, I started Portuguese lessons a week after I arrived. It helped me to learn what I could in the 3 months I was there (in the winter). Most definitely there were more English speaking people in Lisboa, Cascais, Sintra, Lagos, and in Sagres. And, most definitely more English from younger people. Perhaps because I was there in the winter, the younger people were at school. No place that I went to was overrun by tourists. Portugal is a beautiful, charming country with a similar friendliness to where I am from, Canada... but I found it more so than even Canada. (Canadians can be tainted by their love-hate relationships with the US).

[@Luckyamor]

@@ExpatsEverywhere But the Movies for children are dubbed into the Portuguese language

[@nicoleecheverria5747]

I moved to Lisbon 2 years ago from another big city (NYC) and I relate so much to this, I’m trying harder to learn Portuguese to feel even more at home ❤️

[@ExpatsEverywhere]

Thanks for sharing, Nicole. Are you studying from Liz? - Josh & Kalie

[@cmarq817]

👏

[@nicoleecheverria5747]

@@ExpatsEverywhere I pay for a Portuguese tutor, but I subscribed to Liz’ channel!

[@rickchandler2570]

Love Liz's videos! She's so great of a teacher!

[@Yasin_Affandi]

Thanks for this wonderful video.

[@ericbaptiste1193]

Very good interview Josh! I have been studying Brazilian Portuguese, but I have been exposed to European Portuguese. Besides accents, pronunciation, and few terminology changes the core language is the same. The Brazilian version coins a lot of words and phrases, but knowing the basic root words that formed the coined words helps your understanding of the European version immensely since this version focuses more on grammar. Portuguese is Portuguese, whatever country you live in you will adapt to their version because you know the core language.

[@ExpatsEverywhere]

Thanks, Eric. And thank you for sharing your perspective on the language difference. - Josh & Kalie

[@peterwatler8711]

Fantastic interview. Really helpful and insightful. Really enjoy both your channels. Keep up great work

[@ExpatsEverywhere]

Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for the compliment and feedback, Peter. - Josh & Kalie

[@terrisokolow7796]

Great interview! Liz is so pleasant.

[@ExpatsEverywhere]

Thank you. She's got a fantastic disposition and so easy to listen to. - Josh & Kalie

[@abbymoser8996]

Great interview. It has been great to hear a variety of people and why they love Portugal as an expat.

[@mohammedsharif2651]

Lovely interview. You both were fun to watch. 😀👏👏👏👏🙏

[@millermusicstudioofsimpson6085]

What a wonderful interview! Thanks.

[@ExpatsEverywhere]

Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for listening. - Josh & Kalie

[@pinheirokde]

Josh, technically Porto is in the Douro Valley, But usually wen people mention it, they are talking about the Douro Vinhateiro, (the area were the grapes for Port wine originate from) IMO one of the most stunning Landscape areas in Continental Portugal. Porto is more of the Gateway to the "Douro Valley" around 100km upstream and stretching all the way to the Spanish border into the international natural park... Well worth the visit.

[@ExpatsEverywhere]

We've headed up the Douro for sure. We've also headed down the Duero too if you know what I mean. 😁 We have a soft spot for the region and the wine not to mention the stunning landscape. It's superb really. All we're missing is a river cruise. 😊 Thanks for writing, Nuno. - Josh

[@Stopit77]

Great interview Josh. You ask the questions I am thinking myself while listening. I appreciate the time and effort you and K put into your work. I am so excited to learn more Portuguese. I have to admit I started and struggled and put it on pause but listening to this interview has motivated me to get back into it. New subscriber to Talk the Streets!

[@TalktheStreets]

Yaaaas welcome to the family!

[@SandraMarksWebster]

Great interview, great interviewee!

[@ExpatsEverywhere]

Thanks, Sandra!! 🥳 - Josh & Kalie

[@TalktheStreets]

Awww so nice to see you here, Sandra! See you in class soon!!

[@juliesimonson9181]

My best friend just moved from France too Lisbon and loves it ! She’s from California too but moved too France over 10 years ago . I’m so excited to be coming too Lisbon to visit in 5 weeks . My first time out of the county 😱

[@TalktheStreets]

Yasss you will love it! Hope you use my channel to help you with Portuguese!

[@vprado1]

Nice without the cap! She is nice !!! 🥳🥳

[@ExpatsEverywhere]

😉 I've been doing more of that lately. 😅 Thanks for the message and public sub, Prima Summer! - Josh & Kalie

[@violetgypsie]

Wonderful interview. I will definitely check out her channel. Thank you!

[@ExpatsEverywhere]

Thank you! Yes, please do. - Josh & Kalie

[@mariusferreira1297]

That was a really great interview. Thank you 👍

[@ExpatsEverywhere]

Thanks, Marius! We appreciate the feedback. - Josh & Kalie

[@cidaliasoares-chan2350]

Loved the interview! I just found her channel yesterday and I have been sharing it to some of my friends. I was there in 1990 learning the language and enjoying myself at the University of Lisboa. I could not catch the phrase Liz used for the course she took in Coimbra. It sounded similar to mine. Can you clarify that for me, please.

[@ExpatsEverywhere]

Hi, Cidalia! We think that Liz will be around to answer this questions. She's been writing others too. Thanks for your message and love for the interview. We're glad to have you here. 😊 We also like sharing and share. 🙏💪. Write us here tomorrow if she's not replied. - Josh & Kalie

[@TalktheStreets]

Hey! My degree was from the University of Manchester, Joint Honours in Spanish and Portuguese. At Coimbra I was on Erasmus exchange, at the Faculdade de Letras. I did a range of subjects, including Portuguese for Foreigners. It was awesome. So nice to hear you had a great time in Lisbon too! Did you keep up your Portuguese?

[@ExpatsEverywhere]

@@TalktheStreets there’s our girl, Liz, coming through with the answer to your question just like we knew she would. Thanks, Liz. 😃 - Josh

[@rebeccagutierrez1960]

My captions were turned on and it read: What's up "egg pats" everywhere. 😄I love Liz from Talk the Streets. Great interview.

[@ExpatsEverywhere]

Egg pats, we'll take it! We've been called worse. 😂😅 Thanks for sharing your love for Liz and that you liked the interview. - Josh & Kalie

[@pedritu147]

6 months Erasmus and you already speak perfect Portuguese!!! Really… well done!👏👏👏 I know, you already studied Portuguese, but still… Missing João Pessoa, oh gosh! Vacation the whole year. You need to revenge and take some time to visit!

[@sanshen971]

Thank you Josh - this video is truly endearing!

[@ExpatsEverywhere]

You're very welcome. Thanks for watching and commenting. Very nice of you. 😊 - Josh & Kalie

[@sanshen971]

@@ExpatsEverywhere I used to think that I don’t need to subscribe more Portugal related channels after following “Our Rich Journey” and “Stay Classy” for 2 years, but your work changed my mind🤗

[@ExpatsEverywhere]

@@sanshen971 thank you very much. We’re trying to do something different and give people another option to prepare for their move. 😊

[@carolinaparente5808]

Just a tiny correction: João Pessoa is situated in the Brazilian northeast region.

[@nathalienurse3336]

Super video very interesting. Would love to take a Portuguese course, hoping to be there in Sept. Totally agree go cap less………..🤗🇨🇦

[@ThailandTerry2024]

Hello Josh, I’m currently living it HCMC, Vietnam and I have been since Jan 2020. I lived in Thailand for 10 years prior to that. Because of Vietnam’s visa regulations I’ll soon have to leave and I’m thinking about relocating to either Spain or Portugal. My understanding is that since I’m a U.S. citizen I don’t need a entry visa for either Spain or Portugal if I come in as a tourist and that I’d have a 90 days visa free stay in both countries. I was thinking about going there visa free and seeing if either of those two countries are a match for me to relocate to. Is it possible to apply for residential visa once I’m there in country if I like to live in either one of those two countries? I’m retired and single. Thanks in advance for your thoughts and advice…

[@chicagomike]

Lived in Portugal.I recommend Portugal, I think Spain is totally different, I think the Portuguese are friendlier and nicer but I don’t want to be mean on the internet. It will b interesting to see what you think. I am American and staying here. I would like to stay in Portugal for a year now. I am semiretired but health insurance is a issue.

[@ThailandTerry2024]

I understand about the medical insurance thing Chicago Mike, I don’t have any either and I’ve been paying for my medical and dental needs out of pocket. I’ve been living that no medical insurance since I left the States. I’ve had my fair share of medical issues but medical treatments I’ve needed I’ve been able to pay in cash for what I’ve needed in both Thailand and here in Vietnam. As an example, here in Vietnam I was ask by a MD here to get an MRI, which I did. The cost of the MRI was $297.00 USD. I had a hernia operation in Thailand which I paid a little over $3000.00 USD for. So you can see how affordable medical services are in both countries…

[@emanuelcamacho9316]

@@ThailandTerry2024 Research about these things here in Portugal I'm sure you'll like it because you have to spend so little on your health insurance

[@miguelcoelho3877]

Awesome interview (and interviewee, if you don't mind my saying it...) However, I find two of the points Liz made, through no fault of her own, a bit disconcerting: The first (minute 2:59) is that in an academic bookshop in England (Portugal's officially oldest ally, and vice-versa) Portuguese textbooks are filed under "Miscellaneous Languages" when Portuguese is the (allegedly) fifth most-spoken European language in the world, just after English, Spanish, French, and Russian. Secondly (minute 16:55 -- "No, no! That accent's got to go!"): That Liz, once in Brazil, was "advised," (coerced, bullied, whatever you'd like to call it) to drop the Portuguese "accent" in order to be accepted amongst the population. Outrageous! Just imagine this being asked of British people living in the USA or Canada... Or of Brazilians living and working in Portugal -- to drop their accent and learn the correct form of the language... there would be thousands out of a job if any level of reciprocity were to be applied to them! And me thinking that the old prejudice against the Portuguese was a thing of the past... You two are doing a good job, though, hopefully helping some of those barriers to come down... Keep it up!

[@marsol1979]

Well said 😉

[@miguelcoelho3877]

@@marsol1979 Thank you. I appreciate it.

[@ExpatsEverywhere]

Thanks, Miguel. We found it weird that it was filed under misc languages. How many languages are there if Portuguese is in it?! 😂 - Josh & Kalie

[@miguelcoelho3877]

@@ExpatsEverywhere Agreed. But the question should really be: Why is it in there in the first place?!

[@JenShea]

Olá Miguel, hope all is well :) On your note about the prejudices of accents I had to share something with you. A friend of mine was born in São Miguel, Azores but grew up in the US. Her accent was learned at home. She recently moved to Portugal and is living near Caldas. She has several tearful moments because she has felt picked on because of her Azorian accent... Quite frankly I have been surprised to hear that because all my experiences were super with the Portuguese people I met while there, but it has made her have many moments of regret in moving and she says she will speak in English instead of Portuguese for fear of getting ridiculed. Not by everyone, of course, but much more than she ever would have expected. You never know... do you!

[@AnaLauraBarale]

She's so nice!!!!

[@daylight5500]

Nice one Josh. Great business opportunity for locals who speak both languages, to be a translator when dealing with bureaucracy to facilitate the process. On the the subject of learning a language- years back I found a place in Spain that provided accommodation while learning Spanish, do you know of any places like that in Portugal? I am enjoying your channel. Thank you.

[@ExpatsEverywhere]

Thank you very much! We haven't seen you in the comment section much lately. Good to see you back. We don't know of a place that offers language and accommodations. Sorry. If we do hear about one, we'll report on it! - Josh & Kalie

[@daylight5500]

@@ExpatsEverywhere Oh, you charmer you.:-) I may not comment every time but I do watch regularly.

[@VWApachey]

Awesome, I am hoping to move to Portugal one day and would love to be in touch with someone from London as well, any chance of connecting me with her?

[@ExpatsEverywhere]

Hi Mark, you can check out her channel and connect with her there for sure! Talk the Streets. - Josh & Kalie

[@VWApachey]

@@ExpatsEverywhere thanks 😊

[@ExpatsEverywhere]

@@VWApachey You're welcome.

[@junesimon170]

Could you please ,tell me what is Erasmus 2.0 ? I don’t know if I spelled it correctly?👍🤞

[@ExpatsEverywhere]

Hey, June. As Liz kind of explained in the video, it's a little joke about the mid 20 year olds that go abroad to various places and live like they're Erasmus students. So they're not students, but young working aged people that live a slight more economically elevated life compared to the typical college student looking for the cheapest food, drink and entertainment in town. - Josh & Kalie

[@ExpatsEverywhere]

@@TheMountainBeyondTheWoods yup 👍

[@kingjames2226]

Isn't Liz lovely ?

[@ExpatsEverywhere]

She is! - Josh & Kalie

[@Alfablue227]

"Huh huh.. that accent has got go"! That so embodies the intolerance and utter disregard Brazilians have towards Continental Portuguese, where their language originated. Then Brazilians wonder why so many Portuguese have a bone to pick with Brazil over the language issue. This kind of attitude would never be accepted in the US where I lived most of my life. I also know Brazil, very, very, well and stopped counting the times I went there. So knowing from 3rd party off handed conversation that a non Portuguese citizen speaking my type of Portuguese is socially "forced" to change their accent, tells you something about Brazil and Brazilians and their deslike of everything Portuguese. Very, very sad, because I personally (and most Portuguese) love Brazil and all non troublemaker Brazilians.

[@emanuelcamacho9316]

yes you are absolutely right.

[@miguelaraujo2116]

Very true, they name their kids douglas, wanderley, jenifer, etc etc :(

[@dingusmoped]

London 1 word = Well, you know the word, rhymes with...

[@jean-pierrearcoragi6313]

A language is the dialect of the (local) army...

[@zepedro6666]

And they are considered our oldest allies...yeah right. Looking the way they treat the language from their oldest "ally" in the miscellaneous aisle says everything.

[@jmlmo35]

Yeah ! You're absolutly right !

[@Alfablue227]

Ok guys, cool down, the reason why it is filed under "Miscellaneous" because they don't have enough books to have a whole section for Portuguese. I have seen it, unfortunately in other libraries.

[@zepedro6666]

@@Alfablue227 Ok...Tell me something: so why the educational system honours their oldest ally by not teaching portuguese or why practically no brits even consider learning it? Even punjab or arabic have more prominence in the educational system! When I tell to my English clients that portuguese is the 6th most spoken language in the world they look at me like "What???"

[@Alfablue227]

@@zepedro6666 Ignorance pure and simple, but don't confuse how a British librarians filing system works, cause it is pretty much the same everywhere. They are condescending to anything not British and understand that being an ally does not mean ass kissing, which we Portuguese like to do. We also like to be nice, they, not always. I do know they place us in high regard though, and Portuguese is taught in Britain, but Punjabi is more prominent because they have more Indians from the Punjab in the UK than Portuguese. It is all about the numbers and the relationship they have with India, which is above ours I am afraid. Yes, we are they faithful and oldest ally, but we were not part of the Raj. So much so when Nehru invaded Goa in 1961 Britain decided NOT to get involved; so much for old allies. They are allies when convenient, but they have no interest in exalting our language when theirs competes for top spot. It is up to US to promote our language worldwide, and are we doing so? I don't think so, we speak more and more English and nowadays, there is hardly a sentence uttered amongst us that does not have an English term, so why would the English feel the need to learn our language or promote it?! 🤨

[@zepedro6666]

@@Alfablue227 Acho que se está a confundir...está a misturar alhos com bugalhos. É óbvio que seria demagogia completa da minha parte estar a confundir o sistema de arquivamento das bibliotecas inglesas com o respeito que eles não têm pela língua dos seus mais antigos aliados que pura e simplesmente não têm, ponto! Também não é justo confundir bajulamento com o ser amável, embora a fronteira seja ténue mas ela existe. E sim nós promovemos a língua portuguesa através do Instituto Camões, CPLP e os seus congéneres brasileiros e africanos. Tenho 40 anos e nunca conheci um inglês que conhecesse a língua portuguesa ou que a quisesse aprender! Mais depressa um alemão, holandês, romeno, ucraniano ou chinês aprendem ou queiram aprender que a raça "superior" dos ingleses. Por algum motivo eles quiseram o Brexit...Fique bem.

[@janmaaso]

25:25

[@chicagomike]

I thought she was from the uk but of Portuguese ancestry. Hmm...not to b rude but if I wanted to learn Portuguese I think I prefer a native. Having said that European Portuguese is awfully hard to speak. It is so hard to pronounce.

[@Hdio99]

I am Portuguese but I saw her speaking Portuguese and it is basically like us speaking...so thats the case where I can say you would be in good hands, I do not know her for the record.... and yes its very hard Portuguese, Brasilian Portuguese is simpler, because we European Portuguese speak a lot with closed vogals and that is sounds that almost can be picked up naturally when you are a kid, after that you can go there but it will be hard, you have to have a good ear and go to the proper sound witch any word has sometimes various so you can see the dificulty but well its not the hardest thing in the world, I am reading the Poincare conjecture and that was harder to people to get :)

[@JenShea]

Mike, I think her advantage is that she has been where we non-natives are... learning from scratch... she might have empathy and understand a bit more where we might struggle. That's her USP (unique selling proposition). She has years of higher education on the language too. :) * Just a thought

[@chicagomike]

@@Hdio99 yes thanks I appreciate the comments. I love Portugal and I love the Portuguese. Stayed there for a long time. I am back home. But I agree with the dropped vowels are hard for me. I love the chiados. I learned basic Brazilian Portuguese so I need to learn more of European Portuguese as I don’t want to upset Portuguese by using a different sotaque. I think it may upset you all. Love to hang out there once covid situation is better and I get my passport, LOL. It takes months here. Thanks

[@chicagomike]

@@JenShea thanks you are correct I think. I don’t want to b rude but I prefer the Brazilian Portuguese more and I learned basic BP in Brazil. But for living I prefer Portugal. I am planning to stay after covid and when I get a passport LOL it takes months.

[@alvafaleiro]

@@chicagomike Em Portugal ninguém se vai preocupar se tem sotaque. Ao fazer amigos e ganhar mais intimidade eles podem amigavelmente ajudá-lo a soletrar as palavras, creio que é uma excelente forma de "apanhar" o sotaque, de qualquer forma não se preocupe.

[@ramirorosa2377]

Portuguese burocracy: “It’s complicated…”

[@jorgegomez524]

Don’t see diverse as a good quality. Hell must be diverse, Heaven probably is less diverse. All good people tend to be the same.

[@tamaramadelin4831]

Ya, I did not understand this comment!I i love diversity and that we all are different and have something unique about our lives, experiences, growth, culture, feelings, etc...I love Lisbon for its diversity!!

[@JenShea]

@@tamaramadelin4831 Well Said.

[@chicagomike]

With the name Gomez you don’t like diversity. What a nutcase, fu,

[@anaramos2802]

I don't see your point. The more diverse a culture is, the richer it is. In dictatorships diversity is not allowed: everything is standardised.

[@cobracommander8133]

@@chicagomike You're comment is somehow even more aburd than the OP's.