The Unknown Side of WoW - Episode Death Knights

[@cesarluizfrancischettialas4545]

There's also a dryad in Val'sharah that reacts to Apocalypse, but it's pretty unremarkable. What I miss about it is that corpses of mobs you killed used to become green and filled with flies, pretty sick when you killed big groups

[@shady1306]

You can still do it, works if you transmog your weap into apocalypse.

[@utkudelvarturker6258]

Just like Ashbringer artifact weapon occasionally turns undead enemies to ash. Neat nuances.

[@toshley6192]

My goblin DK was my fav character. Farmed Invincible on him (148 runs). Something about being a tiny remorseless bringer of death rocketing around the battlefield was endlessly entertaining. The DK plate armor sets also looked hilarious on goblins because the helmets are about half the size of your character model

[@whirledpeaz5758]

Same on Gnome DKs.

[@tony9099]

Anyone else remember blood being a dps and frost being a tank

[@4ph1-c]

every spec was tank and dps and that why it was a nightmare to balance Sadly by patch 3.2 blood was the only real tank spec and frost/unh were almost pure dps specs , hell even back at ulduar you mostly played blood as a tank

[@_l-_-l_]

@@4ph1-c it really did make more sense for frost to be a tank spec, blood was just better because it had more HP so healers had more time to heal but, frost always took less damage. It had the CD and all the CC tanks use.

[@Sdogofdoom]

​@@_l-_-l_having played both wrath and wrath classic, yeah blood is just a meat sack for healers. Wotn just made their bar bigger in essence, so unlike warriors and paladins who actually mitigated damage, dks just gave the healer wiggle room.

[@4ph1-c]

@@_l-_-l_ Thing is, blood was always the most popular tank out of the 3 specs and the least played as dps iirc in early wrath thats why blizzard turn it into a tank spec "only" later on (blood was "decent" as dps with full ICC gear and some arpen) Also, Frost was way more popular as dps due to the introduction of Threat of Thassarian (DW talent) in 3.2 patch.

[@riordian2]

so I didn't make it up cause come on, frost, hard slowing, is tank, blood, bloodshjead, siphoninng enemy vitals, healing through slaughter, blood is dps. to this day I dont get it

[@rheonate]

Damn, I actually just saw Anaal Nathrakh today! Nice timing. Greetings from Rocksradt festival in Romania. Also, I really appreciate you uploading this and the DK mog video at this time because I actually wanna switch to DK main in TWW. So yeah, thank you.

[@cvanims]

I love this series! I've been a DK since WotLK and I didn't even know about some of these secrets!

[@ArakkoaChronicles]

It's important to note that in the books, at least the published ones so far - we may never know what GRRM's intentions for the future of the books are, the Night King isn't this undead lord of an army of ghouls. There he is just a legendary figure from about 8000 years ago who betrayed the Night's Watch for his ice fairy wife and proclaimed himself king. And then died. Him being at the helm of the Others (aka White Walkers in the shows) first showed up in the show (so after Wrath). Could it be that GRRM intended for the Night King to lead the White Walkers like the Lich King does, before Wrath came out? Yes. Could it be that HBO writers were inspired by World of WarCraft? Yes.

[@LadyTsunade777]

As a DK main since Wrath, I will always be sad they went backwards with Runes instead of forward. On release, we had 2 Blood, 2 Frost, and 2 Unholy runes, with abilities requiring specific runes to use. A good while later, they started adding in ways to temporarily convert single runes to Death runes that could be used as any type, but only on that rune's next single use, then it would revert. Now, all runes are _always_ Death. I remember an abandoned concept that Runeforging wasn't going to just be Enchants, but rather a system that would allow the DK to _choose_ the combination of 6 runes they had. You could have 2 of each, or you could have all 6 Blood, or you could have 3 Frost and 3 Unholy, etc. It would've been so cool to have that kind of choice in gameplay, and it would be very similar to how DK is in Hearthstone now actually. Specializing yourself to how you like to play, rather than every Rune always being every type.

[@sickish]

God legion had so much character and love and work put into it. We'll never get another xpac like it.

[@cristhianmlr]

*yet

[@jfkwkfk8867]

Thats why WOD was so bad

[@EdyGlockenspiel]

Legion was god awful wtf are you talking about

[@sickish]

@@EdyGlockenspiel you're the only one who thinks that. It's one of the most beloved expansions by WoW players.

[@simonterkelsen4732]

1 can hope we wouldnt

[@toastiewulf]

im surprised you didn't mention the lore tidbit of the hungering that dks must deal with. causing them to NEED to inflict pain and suffering on the living regularly lest they go on an crazed bloody massacre

[@rannnoch]

Making them some of the most sane characters, since none of the other classes have that excuse

[@WadeAllen001]

What you said around 15:00 of the ASOIAF books having an undead king is actually not true. The Night King is a show creation. In the books there is a story that Bran tells of "The Night's King" but he isn't the leader of the White Walkers, he was a Lord Commander of the Night's Watch long ago that married a White Walker woman. If there does end up being a king of the White Walkers, it isn't in the books yet.

[@tarkhan15]

As an addition, the Night's King is mentioned in A Storm of Swords, which was published in 1998. One could argue that Blizzard's first concept of "An Undead King" is the Skeleton King from Diablo, which released in 1997. There is of course no connection between him and The Lich King other than being both undead and a king, however. Entirely just me being a bit pedantic, but I love my big fantasy universes :)

[@WadeAllen001]

@@tarkhan15 true, and the concept of an undead king far predates Game of Thrones anyway. Another popular literary example is the King of the Dead from Lord of the Rings: Return of the King.

[@thrashgoatoverkiller6720]

The Anaal Nathrak logo is super legible for being death metal

[@Name-t3m]

1:33 "Suffer well" might be more related to Stoicism. An ancient way of saying "it is what it is doood".

[@GoblinSlayer_GS]

Listen to the lyrics of the song, I think they fit the theme. Also, I searched the web for any use of the phrase before the song was released, but the only examples I found were on religious websites.

[@TheTrueFeleas]

I always felt it was related to stoicism as well honestly. 😅

[@edwardness7497]

if you're going to suffer anyway... be well

[@Symfora1]

In Legion if you have the frost artifact on and go to the pools in the Highmountain's home tree, you will get an image of Arthus that tells you not to trust Bolvar

[@ImNotMadJustDisappointed]

During the battle at Light's Hope, it starts to rain, but the rain is red, which, I assumed, was blood. I took it as a reference to Slayer's Raining Blood.

[@sslingo]

Always gotta play depeche mode when playing my DK

[@saffronic3026]

Sweetest Perfection

[@Tutserman420]

A "Policy of truth" has been spoken lol

[@PowerfulSkeleton]

Suffer Well is an excellent song, btw. Depeche Mode are great.

[@moscanaveia]

Nothing beats Tehd Shoemaker's reaction to the Sceptre of Sargeras

[@Sanguivore]

Tehd Shoemaker is a G.

[@bingushatesquad8133]

DK band name is Blight Boar, CNE is a track

[@nesto2947]

I was surprised during legion when shadow priests didn't go after the hammer of twilight for their weapon. There was this really cool buildup when chogal was forging it in the quest chain. And nothing really came from any of it.

[@Sanguivore]

One of my favorite weapons in WoW lore and one of my favorite specs ever. For as much as Xal’atath is cool, I agree: I was saddened the Hammer of Twilight wasn’t our Artifact.

[@Leeloo-Foxx]

its a 2hand mace, priests cant use 2hand maces

[@Sanguivore]

@@Leeloo-Foxx Hammer of Twilight is definitely not 2-handed, lol. I collect them as drops on all of my toons, and I it as a transmog on my Priest specifically.

[@nesto2947]

@@Leeloo-Foxx just double checked and it's a 1h mace

[@WorentFelix]

AND THAT'S because the WotLK and Legion expansion is loved, the references, the quests, the gameplay, everything is what WoW needs for the last thing left in World Soul Saga. haha... legiondaries, thats sound cool. I wish Blizzard would keep the classic creepy Ghoul design that they had in WC3, something like more skeletons and more maws, apart from the fact that their claws were bigger, something like they made it as if it were a Zerling undead version of the undead races. I thought you would talk about the most broken unholy talent in WotLK Beta like the Shadow of Death, there is really a lot to talk about the best hero class in WoW. I hope you talk like that about other classes from The Unknown Side of WoW

[@GoblinSlayer_GS]

Wouldn't be surprised if "suffer well" is indeed a reference to Depeche mode's song, considering the lyrics.

[@jezebelley]

Hiruma your channel and research team and amazing. Look forward to every upload.

[@springvisuals]

08:44 wow that is amazing. that skit is legendary clearly

[@Kyderra]

Yeah, this checks out, I remember being a solo Tank for HC Sindragosa due to anti magic shell preventive a dot stack and hardly needing any healing.

[@mariogallego5513]

I love the Depeche Mode and Key and Peele references lol nice

[@praise7925]

1:08 Marine Corpse

[@onagda]

Fun fact about Lichborne, Paladin's could use Turn Evil or Turn Undead on the DK when they used the ability because it would change their typing from "Humanoid" to "Undead". It was classified as a "Horrify" so it went through the fear immunity of the ability. It was hilarious. It also worked on Metamorphosis Warlocks because they were Demons. And why pick between tanking OR dpsing? On release, you could spec into Howling Blast AND Unholy Blight at the same time and you would not only be the best DPS, you couldn't die or lose threat.

[@Secean]

Btw! Zdzisław Beksiński's name is pronounced more like "Zed-geesvaf" :) My history professor used to joke that there had been a war between Poland and Denmark that few people have heard of, when peace was made they decided that Poland gets all the consonants and Denmark all the vowels

[@Sanguivore]

LOL. That’s pretty good. xD

[@alejandrocastro5613]

I really miss the blood ability that let you heal if you spend a blood rune, rune transfusion I believe is called. DK in lich king was the best so much fun

[@Sauroth]

You pronounce Ebon as Eh-bawn despite it being pronounced in the game properly like a thousand times but you perfectly pronounce Jackmerius Tacktheritrix. You gotta be trolling your fans dawg.

[@Jadyra]

There is another book that changes as you progress. I found it quite by accident on a ledge near one of the forges and its comment at the time was "needs more cowbell" going back several more times it had changed again to labeling my DK as a killing machine. When you free the citadel however, the book disappears.

[@TheNecromechan1cal]

Yo, I love the shout out to Anaal Nathrakh.

[@Artemisthemp]

I was lucky enough to play the Death Knight in Beta and remember handling 3-4 Elite mobs (back when 1 Elite mob was scary) without must trouble.

[@georgegladding8257]

AMS has always felt extremely strong, especially during Wrath. You could spec ams to absorb 100% magic damage with no cap. even after they capped the absorb of AMS. It would still stop the application of many boss attacks that had magic effects.

[@medicineman5645]

Nice seeing this series back

[@unimediatv]

Depeche Mode and our sullen deathbringers fit quite well. I've always felt it was based on DM. That being said, I leveled a DK when Wrath came out and I loved the class. Still a druid main, but my DK is my alt main.

[@scottlemiere2024]

I was soling city guards WHILE killing teams of players in blood back when WotLK first came out. DKs were completely broken back then.

[@ReverendKJ]

“When my work is finished I’m coming back for you…”

[@jobi7651]

I barely knew anything holy hell this is the class I'm playing. IM ALL FOR IT

[@StraussWyldeTT]

Shortly after the start of Wrath only Ret Pallies and Destro locks had the toolkit to go toe to toe with a DK. Esp if you remember how much both those classes could kill you in a few globals.

[@Sanguivore]

I mained a Ret Pally back then, and boy was it fun.

[@samscorpio]

I love your videos, I really love them, thank you for your effort and work

[@alyxcroft3294]

I was wondering if you could do episodes telling the lore of each area? All the different areas have so much detail and I would love hearing it put together in a cohesive recap. Thank you

[@synthryuji5149]

Damn, I just thought "Wait, that voice sounds familiar" and then I saw DuelLogs and the exact same thing happened when I started watching DuelLogs coming from this channel.

[@danieltodorov7753]

Legion was so much fun.

[@EdyGlockenspiel]

lmao nice meme

[@danieltodorov7753]

@@EdyGlockenspiel Sorry you didn't get to play it.

[@EdyGlockenspiel]

@@danieltodorov7753 Unlike you I sadly played it start to finish, hence why I actually know it was one of the worst xpacks the game has ever had. You would know as well if you were actually there back in the day.

[@danieltodorov7753]

@@EdyGlockenspiel Man you're so determined to being miserable.

[@Sanguivore]

@@danieltodorov7753 Sadly, most WoW players are these days. It’s like a competition with them on who can hate the game the most and have the least fun. It’s a big part of why I quit playing.

[@blacktemplar707]

Fun story, made my wotlk 80 warrior able to solo dungeons up to fos/pos/hor thru regen gimmicks via t10 4 piece and dual bryntrolls. Good times Angronn of Icecrown, warmane private

[@patrickdarkblood8610]

From all the Quests in the DK Start Zone. "How to Win Friends and Influence Enemies" is the worst Quest. Either you are lucky enough or you have kill 10 more before they talk

[@atelierbagur3831]

Ehhh Ive done that numerous times before and I think its just people overblowing it. It seriously doesnt take THAT long to get the right npc. Especially since you find Scarlet spawns all over the place. Playerbase being crybabies as usual

[@Sh3d0w1992]

At the start from WotLk it needed time to finish that quest, but mostly because you always missed your target, since the quest was thought to be used to Level up your one handed weapon skill.

[@gonsshorts]

Suffered well reminds me of the Korean phrase 고생했다 which is said after someone suffers but shows perseverance. So sometimes its said before some task... if you were to endure this success will come

[@Barlo.B.WoWing]

Interesting video idea. Top 10 IYKYK aspects of wow. It occured to me because i dint ubderstand the 90's surfer thing going on with the crab mount currently. I dont have the mount either but, im sure there are other "in jokes" that no one will explain.... IYKYK

[@juansebastianpena1009]

I think that the /glare at the Ghoul thing is a reference to the ghost from Mario games, the big white ghost that cower itself when you look at them

[@colecote1432]

Netrezaar even has a recorded voice lime that plays upon spilling the blood of the deceiver.

[@dabber86]

Love your vids, my man

[@DiabloTommaso]

Oh man i love to tank as a Blood back in the day. No effort whats so ever xD You outhealed everything

[@ratzie]

There are more references to Depeche Mode in the Draenai Starter Zone as well. Some of the quests have the same names as song titles.

[@Motavia]

You forgot the npc named "Siouxsie the banshee" a npc in acherus that shares the same name of the band "Siouxsie and the Banshees"

[@jetflightneon8115]

i had NO idea about Muradin commenting on the blades of the fallen prince!

[@jsmrt6875]

Because Lichborne made you “undead” you could heal yourself with Death coil!

[@horvathbotond4844]

you still can :D

[@generalgk]

“United States Marine Corpse” Oh boy. This is gonna be a long video…

[@drakko26]

Think you missed the whole Legion class mount quest chain that had multiple subsequent interactions with multiple members of the Red Dragonflight, including Alexstrasza herself.

[@siratera3368]

"For tonight we dine at Hooters!"

[@m0002856]

Okay, so there was some crazy stuff that DKs had in the beta it seems. I went through and tried to find the older talents and abilities, but, sadly, most of this information has been scrubbed from the internet it seems. I managed to find the old talent trees using the way back machine from when Blizzard released it on their site, but it seems like it was a later build that didn’t include things like Heart Strike reducing max health by 20%. It also was only the talent trees and not the skills, but I found some skills later. I’d be curious to know if the sources for this video were from memory or if the actual information was located somewhere because I’d LOVE to see it. I found bits and pieces, but not all of it and I just HAVE to know.

[@StormWildSpace]

and, of course, the idea of a "rune blade" was lifted wholesale from Michael Moorcock's Elric of Melnibone'

[@Sanguivore]

Good ol’ Stormbringer! :D Moorcock is perhaps one of the most-referenced people in fantasy, while sadly not being well-known by most. He deserves a lot more attention for his contributions.

[@StormWildSpace]

@@Sanguivore he's definitely in the pantheon of great fantasy writers, sadly he's like the unknown member.

[@reddvery]

It is Highly likely that Blizzard took a Huge chunk of inspiration from "Elric of Melniboné" (1972) by Michael John Moorcock when they wrote all the Lich King story. In the books main character has a cursed sword who gave him power but fed with souls of whom were slain. And also sword is kinda has it's own consciousness and makes Elrik life miserable. Also he's albino and the king sooooo yeah :D

[@JojoSherrill]

Back in the day when a Death Knight would come back as a Ghoul, a Paladins Turn Evil worked on them, you could fear spam the DK.

[@Telam]

As someone from Poland I get a good laugh from pronunciation of Beksiński name :D

[@edgyguy7084]

I NEED to see a comic where Arthas starts the Cinematic just to have the Nightking appear next to him and have his scene at the same time. They then notice each other and have a comedic fight about who is now the original and who is the thief... A small adventure on Syndragoza's back while both try to fly their undead Dragon leads to them crushing into the Argenttournement and wrecking the place... Then Illidan shows up and kills the Nightking bcause he thought it was Arthas, just to be surprised about it and have Arthas kick him in the balls... Cut to the Nightking waking up within the Maw and be somewhat relieved that he doesnt have to deal with a "badly made copy of his" anymore. Just so that the Jailer (kinda looks like him without his armor and all) come by and say hi. The comic ends with the Nightking screaming towards the sky...

[@ShadowReaper072]

as a wotlk dk, i loved solo'ing bosses. [you could also do this in arena] which was even funnier

[@UncaringMan]

God I remember doing Hellfire Citadel with nothing but DKs in the party and not needing a healer

[@Fonzo125]

Who spells "Jotunheim" that way? Well, probably a lot of people, as it's the correct (non old norse/icelandic) way of spelling it. Jotunheim (meaning "home of the Jotun") is in nordic mythology the land(s) inhabited by the jotun. Also a mountainous area/national park in Norway called "Jotunheimen", named after the mythology, spelled the same way.

[@Lupinemancer87]

I honestly, think the DK starting experience could use a bit of an overhaul, compared to the Demon Hunter. Also, I wish they'd done more with the Runeblade/Runeforging.

[@starliaghtsz8400]

theres a lot of torture quests in wow wym? like theres the one in northern barrens, the one in the alliance gunship at deepholm, like its not really unique tbf, maybe they stopped doing it but they did plenty before

[@RibbyCribby]

i remember being flamed for blood tanking back in wotlk when i reached 80. good times.

[@cursedex3755]

God DK was so fucking fun in Wrath, shame it does not have the same feeling in Retail.

[@shiniesglitters5424]

19:20 you missed the part of lich borne that allowed you to deathcoil yourself to heal during its duration

[@MrGrugsy]

Depeche Mode is the epitome of Goth band. Of course it's a reference.

[@shahaf75]

Unholy tanking in WotLK launch was the most fun tanking the game has ever seen.

[@gubigubigubigubi]

People now will never understand how bad ass death knights release was. So many long gone gameplay mechanics and talents. Seeing hordes of death knights wash over hellfire peninsula and high level players trying to gank them only to get killed by the absolutely broken death knights. Then if they did manage to kill any death knights they would come back as a ghoul after death with the now removed "Shadow of Death" talent.

[@voidokami1427]

The original passive for the Blades of the fallen prince would of been so much cooler

[@TheZashalamel]

Dinner viewing engage

[@sigmundfreud7903]

I still have Rune of Lichbane on my DK rune sword. A shame it was never that good to begin with.

[@MattuIce]

I'm surprised you didnt mention the 25 man heroic DK only Naxx clear

[@adamz01h]

Pretty sure *the* tanks spec was blood on launch.

[@danielk613]

And my favorite series aside from Villains Corner returns!! 🙏🏻

[@DPRyfe]

Love the series, I though I know a lot but turns out I know noffin'

[@mix1300]

I remember playing dk undead back in the day, holy shit they were op !!! I used to destroy people in pvp.

[@Adam.godson]

You forgot lichborne made you undead and you could emergency spam deathcoil as it heals undead

[@galatic-wyvern2993]

2:10 i d9nt dread it at all its actually kinda kick ass

[@Leeloo-Foxx]

"a large amount of legendarys in legion" oh really? cause i kept getting sephuez secret.... SEPHUEZ FUCKIN SECRET!

[@ArcaneEther]

23:35 *FEWER heals. "Less" is for unquantifiable objects.

[@DarinRWagner]

You don't pronounce the "p" in "corps."

[@vasilszarek6248]

It is though? Traditional IPA: kɔːps. 1 syllable: "KAWPS"

[@DarinRWagner]

@@vasilszarek6248 He was referring specifically to the United States Marine Corps, so no... you do not pronounce the "p."

[@ericv738]

He said it that way on purpose. The video is about death knights. It's a pun

[@bwcmakro]

@@vasilszarek6248 in a military context, "corps" is pronounced as "core".

[@DarinRWagner]

@@ericv738 Doubtful, but okay.

[@nightraven9258]

How about an episode on druids? lol

[@AntiFrizzz1]

Blizz needs to give blood dk dual wielding. It could go nicely thematically - draw the blood of your enemies through a thousand of cuts

[@ToDeoS]

It was not just op at first release... it was GM like. I think in 2v2, the only combo capable of dealing with 2 dks are 2 arcane mages that if silences DK before they pop anti magic shield, the mages would be able to 1 shot one of them and kite the ghoul(or you die in 3 hits.... they crit for 25% of your health bar and they have a jump(like a charge) ability), cc the other dk, and wait for cd to eventually 1 shot him. Why wait for cool down? If you let him get up, he 2 shots you. Rogue was the funniest class to play against DK as the Rune Strike at the time, deals about 50%~80% of rogue's hp bar, and it is similar to overpower where it ignores dodge... lol rogues was like fucking minions compared to DK.... This is from 2400 2v2 double mages, 2700 warlock shaman dk in that season.. It was so op that even discussing it is so much fun. The self healing, the mitigation and CC immunity, the resurrection that makes them nearly more powerful than a dk without long cds(runeblade etc. imagine killing an unkillable beast twice, only for it to be resurrected by his dk teamate again..), the damage, the weird yet op utilities(oh man, the DND initially would fear people every 2 seconds..) I remember being 1v2'd when playing as druid, druid/rogue fighting one dk when we had full cds, dk pops runeblade, our hp both drop by 30%~50% EVERY SECOND.. lol.. just hularious It was just too much joy for a few classes in PVP but straight out impossible for others. After the nerfs, DK became much more killable for some cleaves combo, but still a pain to deal with as caster comp.

[@ToDeoS]

The idea was this was the first "Heroic Class". Comparing to other "Minion Class", it had to be OP. But a bit too much that players just took it as a joke more than complaining.... lol.. this is probably one era that I felt more fun in wow since vanilla raiding and TBC overall experience.

[@BiddedPumpkin]

Damn i miss dps blood.

[@BahamutEx]

Blood dks being able to solo raid content

[@damienblack6749]

did I miss something, I thought muradin was dead

[@Naizdup]

oh boy u massacred the name Zdzisław Beksinski 🤣

[@vic.olofrost]

Of course Death Knights were OP. It’s a HERO class! Exactly as in WC3. Making it on par with other classes is bullshit.

[@cristhianmlr]

The way he pronounced "Depeche" made me suffer, but not well.

[@thynErro]

United States Marine Corpse

[@shibmaximus6165]

It's pronounced Marine "CORE" not "CORPSE".