the unnecessary love triangle in Wednesday

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Amanda Todhunter

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0:00 Wednesday
2:57 Xavier
8:46 Tyler
12:16 Enid
Description: Wednesday, Netflix, Jenna Ortega, Emma Myers, Enid, Tyler, Xavier

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@AmandaTodhunterOfficial
@AmandaTodhunterOfficial Жыл бұрын
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@mad_max521
@mad_max521 Жыл бұрын
Hi could you do a video on Percy Jackson maybe ranking ships please love your content btw ♥️✨
@turducken1706
@turducken1706 Жыл бұрын
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@satan3862
@satan3862 Жыл бұрын
alot of xavier character doesn't make sense until you remember he has daddy issues
@arielc7730
@arielc7730 Жыл бұрын
@@turducken1706 Right?? Makeup, healthy food, Audible, that's normal(? I guess). BUT LAWYERS????
@Romance_dream_
@Romance_dream_ Жыл бұрын
I think you answered your own questions when it comes to Tyler, he was manipulating Wednesday since day 1; he pursued her romantically to separate her from Xavier because him and laurel wanted to frame him.
@trinaq
@trinaq Жыл бұрын
There's so much drama going on with the main mystery, which is genuinely interesting, and the love triangle just slows down the action. Wednesday doesn't even need a love interest, she's better off single, and her friendship with Enid is far more compelling.
@Swamp_fairy
@Swamp_fairy Жыл бұрын
I’ve ALWAYS seen her as asexual so yeah it was super weird for me too
@Swamp_fairy
@Swamp_fairy Жыл бұрын
And aromantic honestly
@1unpaid_intern
@1unpaid_intern Жыл бұрын
@@Swamp_fairy My thoughts exactly! As an aroace person myself, I liked the first episode because Wednesday was all like "Yeah, I'm not gonna fall in love, mom" and then the whole love triangle happens. I mean plot wise it kinda makes sense for Tyler trying to get close to her, while Xavier could have a childhood crush on her, but she just didn't reciprocate those feelings at all. I could live with her and Enid as a couple though, because they actually have some chemistry and care about each other's feelings.
@Swamp_fairy
@Swamp_fairy Жыл бұрын
@@1unpaid_intern same I’m asexual and I was like “finally some rep” and I got WHIPLASH with that love triangle
@beepboop2842
@beepboop2842 Жыл бұрын
FR. id love the show to just end with wednesday's and enid's friendship blossoming til they grow old. not her with a love interest. wenclair is my fave ship, romantic or platonic
@nathalianunez6692
@nathalianunez6692 Жыл бұрын
Enid: Go and apoligize with Thing and maybe I’ll help you Wensday: 🧍🏻‍♀️🏃🏻‍♀️
@thomasnidoth6078
@thomasnidoth6078 Жыл бұрын
I SWEAR
@eitsumiesashika4006
@eitsumiesashika4006 Жыл бұрын
OMG YES
@cronky_cookie3918
@cronky_cookie3918 Жыл бұрын
Thing: 🤚 Enid: so true bestie
@juni4123
@juni4123 Жыл бұрын
@@cronky_cookie3918 BYEEEE
@itshello1238
@itshello1238 Жыл бұрын
@@cronky_cookie3918 I-
@trinaq
@trinaq Жыл бұрын
Preach, Amanda, thank you so much for bringing this up! Jenna Ortega even stated that she never thought that Wednesday would be the type to be in a love triangle, but it seems arbitrarily thrown in because, hey, it wouldn't be a teen drama without a completely unnecessary love triangle, now would it?
@maddybordner8122
@maddybordner8122 Жыл бұрын
She doesn’t even seem to like either of them
@maddybordner8122
@maddybordner8122 Жыл бұрын
(Wednesday doesn’t seem to like them*)
@magnificloud
@magnificloud Жыл бұрын
THANK YOUUU I HATED THE LOVE TRIANGLE SM also Trina I can't throw a cat on youtube without hitting a video with u in the comment section and I love that
@BurgerBoi1
@BurgerBoi1 Жыл бұрын
She literally had more chemistry/cared way more about Eugene and Enid that she ever did with Tyler or Xavier, and what Tyler said about her "mixed signals"...... Girl what signals 😭😭
@spiritp.d5551
@spiritp.d5551 Жыл бұрын
@@maddybordner8122 I wouldn't say Wednesday never cared for Tyler since she inciated their first kiss but she definitely didn't care about Xavier. I personally don't mind Tyler's plot line that much considering how it ends. Xavier however does seem unnecessary.
@crimsonprincess7420
@crimsonprincess7420 Жыл бұрын
The love triangle just felt like it was forced in just because it was a teen show.
@muffinfighter3680
@muffinfighter3680 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, maybe by Netflix executives
@crimsonprincess7420
@crimsonprincess7420 Жыл бұрын
@@muffinfighter3680 I just want a single show without a love triangle or at least one with a real love triangle instead of two guys liking a girl
@Noncreativevampir
@Noncreativevampir Жыл бұрын
love triangles are the worst and romance
@ozziekins_
@ozziekins_ Жыл бұрын
even jenna herself implied this in an interview
@skizzpulse
@skizzpulse Жыл бұрын
Love triangles are so overrated
@stineandersen56
@stineandersen56 Жыл бұрын
Either Wednesday ends up with Enid in the end, or she is confirmed to be aroace. That is the only two options that makes sense when considering Wednesday character, in my opinion
@trinaq
@trinaq Жыл бұрын
Agreed, I didn't like how they shoved Enid in a relationship too, and thought that she and Wednesday had far better chemistry with each other.
@wellokthen3834
@wellokthen3834 Жыл бұрын
@@trinaq no because literally, ajax and Enid had like one cute scene, but wenclair makes so much more sense
@jastro.
@jastro. Жыл бұрын
I nominate you as screenwriter
@nutellattex
@nutellattex Жыл бұрын
@@trinaq God and not to mention the scene of them making out was just...Downright horrid, I experienced secondhand embarrassment. I really also think it was SOOOOO unnecessary.
@Idk-ee8wl
@Idk-ee8wl Жыл бұрын
Yes.
@sosiska5102
@sosiska5102 Жыл бұрын
We had same type of a shitty love triangle in The Legend Of Korra and we all know who ended up with who
@ohood1788
@ohood1788 Жыл бұрын
As much as I hated the lok love triangle at least it didn't involve any entitled white dudes. This one was just insufferable.
@yukikanegawa7470
@yukikanegawa7470 Жыл бұрын
At least Korra seemed to believe she was in love though. Wednesday just looked like she didn't wanna lose a friend she made so she gave it a shot cause she wasn't against it. Didn't seem particularly for it either tho. When he betrayed her she seemed more annoyed that she got better and fell into a trap than heartbroken.
@mharlon09.
@mharlon09. Жыл бұрын
Please, never remind me of that horrible Mako, Korra, Asami love triangle 😭 that was AWFUL
@ohood1788
@ohood1788 Жыл бұрын
@@yukikanegawa7470 Yeah Korra was legitimately in love with her love interests. Wednesday is obviously no the least bit interested in romance so I don't understand why the writers decided to push her into a love triangle. Especially with love interests who force themselves onto her when she's literally giving zero signals. All her so called romantic moments with Tyler feel like she was pressured into it rather than it being something she actually wants.
@SwedishSalmonbox
@SwedishSalmonbox Жыл бұрын
Its closer to whats in the hunger games, perhaps? Where the main character is just not intrested, but its kind of forced upon her and expected from her.
@isabelpastore4128
@isabelpastore4128 Жыл бұрын
i SWEAR when Xavier and Tyler were both like "you're sending me mixed signals, I thought you liked me" I was like WHEN? Would have been a great opportunity for aro ace representation :(
@tycepickett1238
@tycepickett1238 Жыл бұрын
Yeah the entire love triangle thing was just terribly written and felt so forced. And at no point did she ever string along either guy with chances of there being a romance ( until she suddenly decides she likes tyler completely out of the blue and kissed him in the very late episodes. ) when tyler made that bullshit accusation she was making it very clear she just wanted his help with either getting out of town or in pursuing the case. The stupid romance plot is definitely something that should have been axed.
@mooniity
@mooniity Жыл бұрын
The law firm sponsorship was unexpected but get ur bag girl lmao
@elenafari_
@elenafari_ Жыл бұрын
fr tho that's the most random sponsor i've seen so far 😭✋
@jiabewon
@jiabewon Жыл бұрын
fr usually i see it coming but i was caught so off guard 😭
@thomasnidoth6078
@thomasnidoth6078 Жыл бұрын
lmao fr
@sparkleytxt4041
@sparkleytxt4041 Жыл бұрын
Fr I never knew Morgan & Morgan sponsor KZbinrs 💀💀
@growingupwithdisney
@growingupwithdisney Жыл бұрын
Literally😅I was thinking it was a part of the video, and was confused what it had to do with anything
@janatomy260
@janatomy260 Жыл бұрын
It’s also weird how she “rebels” against her mom… it’s reductive of the other history of ways she has in other media her portrayal with her mom, if she really wanted to disturb her mom she would end up becoming a cheery colorful yet ingeniuine tik tok influencer or something
@jiabewon
@jiabewon Жыл бұрын
youve made an image in my head of wednesday doing the renegade with a bunch of scrunchies on her wrist and a flowery dress 😭😭
@st4ree
@st4ree Жыл бұрын
@@jiabewon nah now that's reminding me of jenna ortega's old musically vids 😭😭
@youdontneedtoknowwhoiam6640
@youdontneedtoknowwhoiam6640 Жыл бұрын
Wednesday is most adaptions is 10-11 years old... it makes sense when she becomes a teenager she has an interest in rebelling for no real reason and dating she's never been portrayed having before. Teenagers frequently develop bitterness towards their parents because they hate not being independent, and 13-16 is usually where people develop a real interest in actual dating. I have to disagree with people in the comments here about her being ace/her being rebellious, it's totally normal for a 16 year old to be experiencing these things.
@VeeVee_Edits
@VeeVee_Edits Жыл бұрын
@@jiabewon 👁️👄👁️
@AgentSteffi
@AgentSteffi Жыл бұрын
I was confused about her shock that her dad might be a murderer. Like... I thought every adult of the family killed at least one Person (and Wednesday is planning since she was a little child). But maybe that's just how I interpreted them?
@elenafari_
@elenafari_ Жыл бұрын
as an asexual the kiss scene just felt so out of place to me, i felt like it didn't make any sense considering how Wednesday behaves and sees the world. i mean, the only physical contact she had with tyler were the parts when she tapped his shoulder at the dance and when she took care of his wounds, but then she randomly kissed him???? also i don't quite understand why xavier is so obsessed with her, she literally sent him to jail? wednesday should stay with enid or with no one, that's it. also i personally would love her to be ace because i already feel related to her in the sense that we're both short INTJ latinas and it'd be nice to relate to her in that aspect too
@SempreSapecando
@SempreSapecando Жыл бұрын
Wednesday is undeniably an asexual and aromantic young lady. That kiss she offered the guy seemed a little out of character given her demeanor, but the writers love to inject romance into everything they write. There's no denying Enid Sinclair isn't straight, but the writers didn't want to challenge heteronormativity, so they made the girl fall in love with a random guy.
@haileyracine3608
@haileyracine3608 Жыл бұрын
I completely agree, not to mention how she doesn't want to follow her parents path and their path was literally finding romance in Nevermore, I didn't see it coming at all
@skullthunder3181
@skullthunder3181 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I hard agree, Im not ace/aromantic but her character is just sooo incredibly coded as aromantic/asexual. I was like "huh???!!?!" When she reciprocated feelings for Tyler. Like Tyler and Xavier's attraction to her was so incredibly one sided, she shows ZERO interest to them. It would just make sense to keep her single with Enid and Eugene as platonic friends
@SempreSapecando
@SempreSapecando Жыл бұрын
I hope they don't spoil the character by making her fall in love and break up with a guy at the end. It would be pretty cliché for that to happen.
@enadegheeghaghe6369
@enadegheeghaghe6369 Жыл бұрын
@@SempreSapecando who decided that Wednesday is asexual and aromantic? I don't recall that in the lore. You might want that but that is not necessarily what the writers had in mind. What am I missing?
@neivilde.1242
@neivilde.1242 Жыл бұрын
if there is one character that doesn't need to be have any type oflove interest, it's Wednesday. i like aro/ace Wednesday. and i feel her friendship with enid is more important than making it a romantic relationship, like it's more meaningful that she can make a connection with a friend than a romantic one IMO. but if they make them a couple i wont complain. also hot take, Wednesday and bianca? just saying
@wellokthen3834
@wellokthen3834 Жыл бұрын
I feel Enid and Wednesday overall are healthy relationship, whether or not it's romantic
@rivkahhaubner7498
@rivkahhaubner7498 Жыл бұрын
Okay but same. There would definitely need to be more interactions between Wed and Bianca, but aside from her being aro, that’s my favorite ship.
@Muddy_day
@Muddy_day Жыл бұрын
Yeah, same I like how Bianca and Wednesday are starting to see each other more as people than just rivals. It would make an interesting ship
@neisulore_dv
@neisulore_dv Жыл бұрын
oh legit like after the dance they were totally vibin. also when joseph crackhead was there bianca tried to stab him with a sword.
@peterkottke2570
@peterkottke2570 Жыл бұрын
@@Muddy_day I like how their first genuine conversation began with a tacit agreement that Xavier is a dweeb.
@katherineravenheart9590
@katherineravenheart9590 Жыл бұрын
Since she didn’t seem to like either of the boys and they had no interest in each other, it was not a true love triangle. It was a love corner that Wednesday was backed into and it very much showed.
@erinbathie-moore8478
@erinbathie-moore8478 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, that's most love "triangles", because apparently, people don't understand shapes
@jonnybuijze1770
@jonnybuijze1770 Жыл бұрын
She was backed into a love angle and to get out of it she just stomped all over them and I am HERE for it. I'm not team Xavier or team Tyler I'm team Manipulating these desperate boys so she can reach her goals 😎
@justateapot3847
@justateapot3847 Жыл бұрын
@@jonnybuijze1770 with her and Tyler it was kind of the opposite
@gqaso
@gqaso Жыл бұрын
@@justateapot3847 true, I'm hoping that's what the writers meant to convey with the "you've been sending me signals" line (that he's manipulative)
@peterkottke2570
@peterkottke2570 Жыл бұрын
Is it a love triangle? Xavier seems actively disliked by Wednesday even once referring to him as "suffering". He's definitely into her but it is definitely not both ways. He's acting like a stalker. Really if a guy you've shown no interest in turns out to have drawn a large portrait of you in his private studio, you may want to look into a restraining order. This also plays into the main plot as Xavier's creepier aspects make him a suspect. As for Taylor. He's not a true love interest either. His motivations are far more dark. His date with her was a distraction so that Thornhill could trash Wednesday's room and take the diary. He's manipulating her the entire time and he does such a good job that Wednesday misses clues. ( like that Thornhill likely found out she had the diary because she trusted Taylor enough to show it to him ) His "romance" was a plot point of the conspiracy. The only real love interest is Wednesday and Enid and that appears to be platonic. For now.
@apoorvsingh4459
@apoorvsingh4459 Жыл бұрын
I think the same! It was all intentional! and more of a plot point which was actually important to the story. Because of xavier she becomes suspicious of him and thing with tyler was obvious intentional
@zekeyeager3964
@zekeyeager3964 Жыл бұрын
Your wrong… clearly Eugene is the one for her 😂
@indigo_neo
@indigo_neo Жыл бұрын
@@zekeyeager3964💀💀
@peterkottke2570
@peterkottke2570 Жыл бұрын
@@zekeyeager3964 Eugene is part of the Enid-Ajax-Eugene love triangle. :)
@jeffpage1000
@jeffpage1000 Жыл бұрын
Love triangle? More like love "Y": two guys loving the same girl while said girl is more interested in something else (the investigation and Enid)
@lordofshibainus
@lordofshibainus Жыл бұрын
tbh the love triangle felt wayyyy more like a love corner - it just seeemed like Wednesday was forced in an uncomfortable corner just for the sake of the two guys ….. who refused to acknowledge the fact Wednesday wasn’t interested from the start
@greyhoundson
@greyhoundson Жыл бұрын
i fucking cried when she returned enid's hug at the end
@MiniCountessIsme
@MiniCountessIsme Жыл бұрын
Team Enid, 100%. I couldn't get into Xavier or Tyler, because it honestly gave me second hand embarrassment every time they would try to get with Wednesday and I was like "Bro... Take a hint!"
@eyitsyaboi4527
@eyitsyaboi4527 Жыл бұрын
same dude just embarrassing
@friedagaseb8575
@friedagaseb8575 Жыл бұрын
Right?!
@zusuky03
@zusuky03 Жыл бұрын
Same they were just simps
@Azaleaaah
@Azaleaaah Жыл бұрын
I understand Tylee doing it because he had an ulterior motive. As for Xavier, he was definitely a bit sick in the head and obsessed
@dragongirl2032_
@dragongirl2032_ Жыл бұрын
There's also the option of Bianca, enemies to lovers is great.
@maggie7131
@maggie7131 Жыл бұрын
I hope Wednesday chooses to be alone and just have fun with Enid. I'm not saying she doesn't deserve to love and be loved in a romantic way but, "love" wasn't something I was expecting here...
@herculesc130.
@herculesc130. Жыл бұрын
doesn’t she just straight up say “i don’t like anyone”? i think wednesday is more preoccupied and interested in other shit besides another dumbass teen drama love triangle.
@Amy_jo_
@Amy_jo_ Жыл бұрын
I feel the same way. This isn't a show that needs a romantic subplot
@D_Artella
@D_Artella Жыл бұрын
The love triangle low-key, no, high-key ruined the show for me. As an Aro/Ace, I saw her as such. I don't think she's incapable of falling in love, she just doesn't seem interested in it and by the end of the series SHE STILL ISN'T. What the fuck was the point of the romance?! It was stupid! I'm still looking forward to a second season though. lmao
@Yg0032
@Yg0032 Жыл бұрын
No my thoughts exactly lmao. I’m also aroace and it fucking ruined it for me. Like how can she so obviously be aroace even in this portrayal but yet she ends up with someone? Let alone a man?! Like please at least if you’re gonna not make her aroace, put her in a queer relationship instead
@Baking_Bookworm
@Baking_Bookworm Жыл бұрын
Agreed!!!!! No matte what, I’m going to stick with her being aro ace, maybe she just doesn’t realize it yet, I didn’t know I was till a few months ago.
@yukiandkanamekuran
@yukiandkanamekuran Жыл бұрын
Jenna Ortega said herself that she wasn't into the love triangle, if that makes you feel better? So she may be fighting against it.
@neisulore_dv
@neisulore_dv Жыл бұрын
same! it's like "where are these emotions coming from." it kinda makes sense for other people to fall for her but not the other way around???
@joyc.e.7511
@joyc.e.7511 Жыл бұрын
@@neisulore_dv Ok, but literally what I was thinking. There was never a moment where she showed romantic interest imo. It felt like she only went to that dance and kissed Tyler because that was what everyone else was doing. It never felt like she liked anyone romantically.
@reymc2698
@reymc2698 Жыл бұрын
Honestly I would love to see the relationship between Wednesday and Bianca fleshed out a little more, whether they just stay friends or try something romantically. I don’t think something romantic would work for very long since their too similar to each other, but I still think they would be such a power couple for the time they are together.
@bootybuttcheeks
@bootybuttcheeks Жыл бұрын
I think Bianca would fit in so well with the Addams clan and they'd love having a siren in the family
@amelialalllalala3914
@amelialalllalala3914 Жыл бұрын
yessss, bianca is very cool so anything with her and not a wet blanket like xavier sounds great
@kpoppy9635
@kpoppy9635 Жыл бұрын
I can't see her with Bianca either... But she would make a powerful Ally and friend.
@VeeVee_Edits
@VeeVee_Edits Жыл бұрын
yes, I like the idea of them becoming friends/slight rivals
@jelly_josss2403
@jelly_josss2403 Жыл бұрын
I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE!!!😭✌🏽😩😩😩
@fluff1694
@fluff1694 Жыл бұрын
stop becuase when tyler was like “these signals are confusing” (something along the lines of that i can’t remember sorry) i was like “WHAT SIGNALS”. the girl didn’t even smile at you once dudeee 😭.
@MoRPho151
@MoRPho151 Жыл бұрын
I felt that both Tyler and Xavier had a sense of entitlement over her. It makes sense that Xavier likes her but Wednesday does not remember him even, how can she reciprocate him? And in the case of Tyler they just have met. They both should have try to be friends with her first. It could have being cuter that Xavier had a secret crush over her with more respect, without actively and directly trying to her to like him. And they both are not very good prospects for Wednesday, I think that she doesn’t need a romantic relationship to work.
@kpoppy9635
@kpoppy9635 Жыл бұрын
Well with Tyler, it was all part of his plan with his master to get close to her. But with Xavier, I really don't get why he likes her or why he feels like he can make her return his feelings.
@bethkeenan8800
@bethkeenan8800 Жыл бұрын
YALL can we talk about personal injury lawyers getting into the KZbin sponsorship game!? 💀🤣
@jiabewon
@jiabewon Жыл бұрын
imagine getting that sponsor like youve come far enough that a whole LAW FIRM is sponsoring you 😭😭
@ten-ze1pq
@ten-ze1pq Жыл бұрын
This portrayal of Wednesday makes it seem incredibly forced that she would be romantically interested in anyone at all. I should’ve felt something when Tyler revealed himself as an antagonist. I did not 😃
@yourlocaldemon2195
@yourlocaldemon2195 Жыл бұрын
All I felt was disgust, not surprise but disgust.
@the_kleetus-yeeyee48
@the_kleetus-yeeyee48 Жыл бұрын
🤠👍
@Azaleaaah
@Azaleaaah Жыл бұрын
I expected the betrayal because he seemed like he was forcing his relationship with her. If he didnt betray, i would've disliked him as a character for forcing himself on her when she doesn't seem interested. But now I understand why he does it
@justateapot3847
@justateapot3847 Жыл бұрын
@@haz3471 how so lmao? Jenna and Hunter have natural chemistry (as friends). Even if you don’t like the ship, you can’t deny how nice they work onscreen together
@kpoppy9635
@kpoppy9635 Жыл бұрын
For me, I was excited because the show took an amazing turn! Also cause everything made sense. It also made Tyler's character much more complex than I originally thought. The only downside is if this means we won't have anymore Tyler and Wednesday scenes.but it kinda hints at the end that Tyler will be back so I hope he will.
@yudi.5647
@yudi.5647 Жыл бұрын
Tyler: you keep giving me these signals The signals:😐😑
@setyset5750
@setyset5750 Жыл бұрын
Wednesday and Enid hug was literally one of the BEST scenes in the show. And that one scene had more CHEMISTRY than their scenes with boys all together
@Cardinalt
@Cardinalt Жыл бұрын
Yeah, Enid walks along with boy number 2 and says absolutely nothing, before *just absolutely **_sprinting_* over to Wednesday. *_AND THE HUG!_*
@kpoppy9635
@kpoppy9635 Жыл бұрын
Yeah but I saw it as more as two sisters hugging, not two lovers. They either need to drop the romance and keep relationships platonic or bring a new character in.
@jameshorn6284
@jameshorn6284 Жыл бұрын
I agree.
@jameshorn6284
@jameshorn6284 Жыл бұрын
@@kpoppy9635 You saw them as that but clearly more fans saw them as potentially romantic. They could make the potential romance work honestly.
@JohnT_
@JohnT_ Жыл бұрын
Tbh the potential is there wether they want to make Enid and Wednesday a thing or not. I think they compliment each other very well, and I definitely would like to see more of them wether it be platonic or not due to how much chemistry they have. The show could honestly just be about Wednesday and Enid solving mysteries together and that would be great
@Coksi
@Coksi Жыл бұрын
I have two fears: more dumb romance with Xavier OR Tyler goes on a whole „trying to control his monster“ redemption arc and reveals his feelings were real and they become a thing in the next seasons. I‘d rather stab my hand with needles than see that 💀 so here‘s to hoping for aroace Wednesday or Enid x Wednesday!
@whatalsaid
@whatalsaid Жыл бұрын
I REALLY thought that *SPOILER ALERT* that nerdy kid that dies at the end of episode 1 was gonna be her love interest, because he was SO much like the kid with all the allergies who falls in love with Wednesday in Addams Family Values.
@kpoppy9635
@kpoppy9635 Жыл бұрын
I actually thought that too. It looked like the show was gonna be a love square...then he died. 😅
@Keplerite
@Keplerite Жыл бұрын
I thought he was gonna be her love interest, too 🤣 Then he died
@keinimaris
@keinimaris Жыл бұрын
He did not die he was in a coma but lol that does make sense
@kpoppy9635
@kpoppy9635 Жыл бұрын
@@keinimaris so there's still hope?
@keinimaris
@keinimaris Жыл бұрын
@@kpoppy9635 yeah
@nathalianunez6692
@nathalianunez6692 Жыл бұрын
A person can be aromantic or/and asexual and still being in a romantic or platonic relationship
@ashleyyoung6107
@ashleyyoung6107 Жыл бұрын
Exactly because so many people don't know this.
@the_kleetus-yeeyee48
@the_kleetus-yeeyee48 Жыл бұрын
Yes but Being both ARO/Ace means no relationship period. I’m ARO/Ace
@che7941
@che7941 Жыл бұрын
@@the_kleetus-yeeyee48 lol so because you are like that, EVERYBODY has to be like that. Got it.
@luvswinwin
@luvswinwin Жыл бұрын
@@the_kleetus-yeeyee48 Not necessarily -An aro person
@historiareiss1100
@historiareiss1100 Жыл бұрын
@@the_kleetus-yeeyee48Totally not, Aroace people can be in a relationship if they want, or QPR, your experience isn’t universal ^^’
@ashleyspencer4539
@ashleyspencer4539 Жыл бұрын
Tbh I believe that wednesday is definitely on the aroace spectrum just not completely aroace. Romantic/Queerplatonic Wednesday would honestly just make my day, especially QP bc there are like no QP relationships in media sdklfjieorhjiog
@Aisha_Luv
@Aisha_Luv Жыл бұрын
Yes, im lesbian oriented aromace so im dying for a qpr with her and enid I know it will never happen though 😢
@aroacelitchi2007
@aroacelitchi2007 Жыл бұрын
@@Aisha_Luv same
@haileyracine3608
@haileyracine3608 Жыл бұрын
Yes!
@kpoppy9635
@kpoppy9635 Жыл бұрын
Rather than with Enid, I think they should make a new love interest. Enid is more like her best friend/ sister so it would be weird for them to have a relationship at this point. Plus if they are gonna have Wednesday be in a romance, it would have to be with someone with less color and wouldn't need constant displays of affection.
@gqaso
@gqaso Жыл бұрын
I agree, R/QP would be the best scenario. But let's be real, it's not gonna happen
@lillianbug
@lillianbug Жыл бұрын
(Spoilers) I like that it's implied that Tyler was just following orders, so that particular relationship kinda makes sense. It shows how Wednesday thinks she is the smartest and bc she isn't great at emotions it would make sense for that to be where she is blindsided by betrayal. It's xavier where it gets weird for me. In theory showing someone with interest in her is cool, but she doesn't seem to like him as anything more that a piece of the puzzle! So having them become friends by the end was really weird for me as i didnt think there was enough actual connection there (at least not yet). I would have loved to see it more clearly that they both kind of apologised to each other, and then just left on good/neutral terms. I think it ending with Enid giving her a phone would make more sense (even if it's been established that her family may not be as well of as xaviers). I very much agree with many of the comments that I think Wednesday would be a fantastic ace character, just based on my on personal interpretation, but you could also make the case for demi, as she doesn't really connect with many people but she seemed to connect with Tyler after having a deeper (or as deep as the storyline would go) personal connection to him.
@mmsanimations2183
@mmsanimations2183 Жыл бұрын
with Tyler when he confesses, he says and I quote "I started tasting the blood (or something like that), and it was delicious" which proves that although he was following orders, he was still kind of enjoying it but that's just what is think everyone is entitled to their own opinion this is mine :)
@THATKID9089
@THATKID9089 Жыл бұрын
You know I really liked Wednesday with Tyler. I didn’t think I could like her with a romantic interest because it doesn’t seem like classic that she would have one but I think that even though Wednesday was bad at emotions the development was good. I think that Tyler is a little dark and not just cause he’s being controlled and that could be good if Tyler has a redemption arc/there’s a new plot point/hole in season 2 (if we get one)
@ultimxtemiracxler
@ultimxtemiracxler Жыл бұрын
She wouldn''t love the person who tried to kill her and her friends and Thing, the most I think she would do is try to stabilise him from Thornhill's actions so like platonic but I don't think she holds any feelings towards him after realising everything and what he did.
@lifekindasucksrn6442
@lifekindasucksrn6442 Жыл бұрын
In an interview w the actor for Tyler, he confirmed that Tyler was truly pretty evil the whole time, or at least since he began getting controlled at the start of the series. RIP their relationship
@ultimxtemiracxler
@ultimxtemiracxler Жыл бұрын
@@lifekindasucksrn6442 Thank you 🙌
@littlesparrow303
@littlesparrow303 Жыл бұрын
I fully agree!! I thought this series was gonna be Wednesday doing her own thing, no love interests while solving a mystery. The love triangle was annoying & I didn’t care about it. I understand in this version she’s a teenager and not a little girl from the movies so I can see why they added it in
@millytheomegawolf6175
@millytheomegawolf6175 Жыл бұрын
Finally someone who shares my opinions! Xavier feels more like sketch than a drawing, and is just very flat. All he has going for him is his cool abilities imo. Tyler was just annoying as heck to watch chase after wednesday, and he seemed to not know her at all. Also like- Man looked dead at the end. Enid went ham on him, how is he still alive? Enid deserves the world honestly. Her and Wednesday's friendship felt so real, and there was build up to the hug as well. That hug ment everything to my holy heck. They helped eachother grow and I'd be lying if I said that I don't think Wednesday has bit of a soft spot for her by the end. If they stay friends, I'm cool with it. If they become more, I'd be happy to watch.
@clv3d
@clv3d Жыл бұрын
Xavier is better suited to be a sibling esc role tbh. The cautious older brother in contrast to the guns blazing nature of Wednesday
@pearlstapes
@pearlstapes Жыл бұрын
Glad to see you talking about Wednesday! I agree I liked the show but I think that it would have been MUCH better without the love triangle
@trinaq
@trinaq Жыл бұрын
Seconded, I hate when a work randomly throws in a love triangle, especially when the main action is about a much more exciting mystery or war.
@pearlstapes
@pearlstapes Жыл бұрын
@@trinaq fr sometimes the love triangle is just unnecessary
@Cris.as.in_Crisis
@Cris.as.in_Crisis Жыл бұрын
as an aro ace person myself the idea os wednesday being aro ace just makes me so happy, and my friends and i can all see it being a thing and we were even talking about her being in a qpr with Enid or Eugene
@SempreSapecando
@SempreSapecando Жыл бұрын
Wednesday is aro, she shouldn't be romantically involved with anyone. Enid is her best friend, it's normal for her to show more sympathy.
@wheresbellaj2386
@wheresbellaj2386 Жыл бұрын
I originally liked her relationship with a normal dude because it reminded me of the Addams family musical. People who are completely shocked that she’s being or represented in a romantic relationship kind of forget that piece. But I really didn’t like her relationship with the artist because she very much didn’t like him and only ever used him when she wanted something it seemed very unhealthy. So overall I don’t like the love triangle but I did like one of her relationships before he turned crazy
@the_kleetus-yeeyee48
@the_kleetus-yeeyee48 Жыл бұрын
No one care about the musical
@justateapot3847
@justateapot3847 Жыл бұрын
@@the_kleetus-yeeyee48 if “no one cared about the musical” it wouldn’t have such a big following behind it, dumbo
@s9ftie
@s9ftie Жыл бұрын
Even Wednesday had more connection with Bianca 😭
@jameshorn6284
@jameshorn6284 Жыл бұрын
Honestly wouldn't be against that.
@fionanonanona
@fionanonanona Жыл бұрын
omg yes! Exactly! Every time Xavier and Tyler would be getting fussy with Wednesday cause she didn’t reciprocate their feelings had me and my mom yelling “SHE DOESNT LIKE YOU LEAVE HER ALONE!” lmao but don’t get me wrong I enjoyed the show very much and watched it the second it came out on Netflix. I also really loved Enid and my mom and I agreed that Wednesday and her have better chemistry than the actual love interests. But their friendship is what I hold dear in my heart cause that’s literally my best friend and I 🖤💖✨ also does anyone have a big crush on Ajax and young Gomez cause SAME 🫶🏽
@jastro.
@jastro. Жыл бұрын
Not me and my sister. And literally everyone I've met is like KENT and also everyone I've met refers to him as "The Hot Merman"
@Azaleaaah
@Azaleaaah Жыл бұрын
I can understand why Tyler did it. He did it because he was trying to use her anyways. As for Xavier, yeah that one was unnecessary
@sarah214ahmed
@sarah214ahmed Жыл бұрын
I loooove Ajax ❤❤❤❤❤
@elisanoro
@elisanoro Жыл бұрын
I personally didn't ship her with anyone (especially the boys) and preferred her being ace/aro. I would be fine with her and Enid tho lol
@hello.ily.wytmyn
@hello.ily.wytmyn Жыл бұрын
One thing that made me feel like Tyler was lying is when he “almost got killed” by the monster, but he was like “But I’m fine girl I’ll still fuck with you 😏” like WHAT. I was thinking either he’s insane or there’s something fishy going on. Like Xavier, even though he was attracted to Wednesday, still pushed her away when she started pushing boundaries, but Tyler over here is still staying with Wednesday after getting slashed by a fucking Hyde. All other characters who wanted to interact with Wednesday all had their moments where they could recognize her flaws and pushing back in the process, but Tyler just, never pushed back? Maybe this “loyalty” was supposed to be interpreted as “Aw! Someone who actually trusts Wednesday for who she is!” but all it gave me was suspicion instead.
@joyc.e.7511
@joyc.e.7511 Жыл бұрын
Going to the dance and kissing Tyler never felt really genuine to me. Especially when she did a complete 180 after finding out Taylor was the monster and straight up started torturing the guy. That just screams that she liked him right??? Not to mention how she showed no actual deeper connection to either him or Xavier and visa versa. But she did with Enid, Bianca, and Eugene along with an actual dynamic. Maybe it's because they all had ACTUAL personalities while Xavier and Tyler barely did outside of liking Wednesday. And they kept trying to push her into having feelings for them (seriously, I need a microscope to spot those hints Wednesday was apparently dropping for Tyler). Even getting jealous or feeling betrayed when they saw the other around her, like she was playing them. "Lord, give me the confidence of a mediocre white man" comes to mind when I think of this love triangle and that's a sad, sad thing.
@janethnavarro4838
@janethnavarro4838 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, exactly, the most unnecessary love triangle I've ever witnessed. Also, I do think that there are at least a tiny chance that Wednesday and Enid end up being a couple. Enid is inmensely queer coded on the series, her mother wanted to send her to a conversion therapy... and just today I watched a therapist analize Enid's character, and yeah, she said that those camps were definitely the ones were you send childs to change their sexual orientation. This I mention it because people get too pressed about it and start saying the camp was just for a werewolve thing... it was not, the message was very clear. There are also so many parallels between Gomez, Morticia, the stalker of Morticia and Tyler, Wednesday and Enid! The creepy guy who wanted Morticia/Wednesday? Tyler, and the one who truly loves her and saves her at the end? ENID. Also a very scene from a movie from the 90s where Thing goes looking for Gomez when Morticia was in trouble, the line Gomez said when Thing was trying to tell him what happend was "Slow down, it's terrible when you stutter!". This reminded a lot of people to the scene where Thing goes looking for Enid to help Wednesday! When Thing was telling Enid what happened she said "Slow down, what happend?!". A lot of fans don't know about this because it happend like a month before the show was released, but Netflix released a photo of an Ofrenda for "Día de los Muertos". It was a full photo of skulls of the whole Addams Family, there was Gomez, Morticia, Pugsley, Uncle Fester and Wedneday. You see, believe it or not they also put a skull for Enid! And the post said "Putting an ofrenda for The Addams Family". That made a lot of people believe Enid would then become something more for Wednesday than just friendship. It may not end up happening, but I definitely think Enid and Wednesday would make a very beautiful couple, and come on, Enid was always kind and tried to understand Wednesday even when they were so different. She never pushed her to be someone she didn't want to be, not like the boys literally gaslighting her into believing what they had was more than just friendship!
@misty7627
@misty7627 Жыл бұрын
literally i see no one talking about the comparisons between gomez and enid going to save morticia/wednesday. i saw a tiktok video where it was just the same exact scenario of gomez saving morticia and enid saving wednesday. and how gomez was a coward before he fell in love with morticia and enid was so scared, she fainted at the sight of blood but was brave enough to go searching for wednesday in her human form, when there was a literal serial killer running around, murdering everyone. luckily she was able to transform but risking her life for wednesday? 🤨 and only being able to wolf out when wednesday was in danger.
@elenagonzalez8463
@elenagonzalez8463 Жыл бұрын
lol I love how you pulled the receipts !! But honestly I don't mind if wednesday ends up being aroace or if enid and her get together, I just really hope the romance with the men go away
@agatahighstein
@agatahighstein Жыл бұрын
Honestly I feel like with Xavier there was legit nothing there, like I just was so tired of him pursuing completely non existent signals, but with Tyler I feel like there was a lot of chemistry between the actors. I think you bring up some interesting points, and I totally understand not shipping them, but personally I did rlly like them together. I think that Jenna’s acting made it seem like Wednesday was actually interested in Tyler. But now he is the murderer. Now, that may not stop Wednesday, she admires lots of murderers, but also he murdered her friends so idk. I think that Enid and Wednesday are rlly cute friends but I didn’t rlly see any chemistry as more than that, but I’m gonna rewatch with that in mind and who knows, maybe I’ll become an Enid and Wednesday shipper. I also think her being Aroace would be cool. Idk, as long as it’s not Xavier I’m fine, but I’m afraid the show is gonna go in that direction.
@kpoppy9635
@kpoppy9635 Жыл бұрын
None of her friends were murdered though. The Thing was stabbed by Christina ricci's character, because Tyler had taken Wednesday on a date to distract her so they could ransacked her room. Eugene was attacked by the Hyde though and that could be what holds her back from ever forgiving Tyler but we'll see in season 2. I personally see Wednesday and Enid as best friends or sisters so having them be romantic would be weird. If they really want her to be queer, bring in a new love interest cause none of them are right for Wednesday... And it does look like they are pushing Xavier despite that they have not built a single good reason why Xavier likes Wednesday. Nor did they ever show her reciprocating his feelings.
@jameshorn6284
@jameshorn6284 Жыл бұрын
I didn't really see Wednesday and Tyler as having any chemistry and I don't see her getting with the guy who helped try to kill her friends. I also did see a lot of romantic chemistry between Enid and Wednesday and feel like that would be an interesting way to go but that is just my opinion.
@jameshorn6284
@jameshorn6284 Жыл бұрын
@@kpoppy9635 He still helped destract her so thing could be attacked and tried to kill both Eugene and Enid. I can't see her ever forgiving that. Also how would Wednesday and Enid having a romantic relationship be weird they literally have far more romantic chemistry than any of the canon romances.
@Andrew_in_the_garden
@Andrew_in_the_garden Жыл бұрын
When barista boy wouldn't stop popping up in the first ep and it became obvious there'd be a love triangle my interest in the show dropped pretty much immediately tbh, fun to hear he had a more interesting role in the end but yeah, for me i'd prefer aroace Wednesday
@anagalindo1000
@anagalindo1000 Жыл бұрын
11:26 Im also so curious about Tyler’s feelings for Wednesday, he’s character is very confusing to me, I hope they clear things up in S2
@kalesmart1
@kalesmart1 Жыл бұрын
I didn't really get any of the romance in Wednesday, I kept thinking don't turn her gay because I don't think she's interested in anyone at all, and I really love the friendship she has with Enid, it's so cute
@slauthordraws3363
@slauthordraws3363 Жыл бұрын
boys being like “she’s willingly spending time in my presence?? she must want me 😳” is unfortunately realistic
@redlovestaylor
@redlovestaylor Жыл бұрын
Wednesday: *stands there deadpan showing no emotion like always* Xavier and Tyler: YES GURL GIVE US NOTHING
@sepulfan02
@sepulfan02 Жыл бұрын
It's unnecessary but it also makes sense that the popular guys would flock to the new gorgeous girl. Enid and Wednesday ooze platonic energy
@jameshorn6284
@jameshorn6284 Жыл бұрын
I mean I don't really agree. I think Wednesday and Enid have far more than platonic energy but that is just my opinion.
@aquaaria3489
@aquaaria3489 Жыл бұрын
I still find this love triangle very unique and somewhat effective. It’s unique because usually love triangles work like this: main love interest and the lead love interest fight each other for the love of the female protagonist, female protagonist then has to choose who to be with, and 100% of the time she chooses the main love interest. In the series the dynamic is obviously very different: Tyler seems like the main love interest and Xavier seem like the lead because she interacts more with Tyler instead of Xavier; then we think that Tyler is definitely the one when Wednesday turns against Xavier and gets him arrested, so there’s no way we could ever imagine them together when they dislike each other very much at this point; obviously, towards the end, there’s the big plot twist which reveals Tyler being the villain who just tricked and manipulated Wednesday the whole time, so now it’s these two who dislike each other and definitely cannot end up together. During the ending, we’d think that she’ll have her sweet reunion with Xavier, but they didn’t and instead she focused a lot on her and Enid, making him a secondary character to Wednesday. Here I’ll explain what I think about its effectiveness: for all of us it seems very unlikely that Wednesday could ever find herself in a love triangle, but I find it at least 50% plausible. Of course I don’t think she’s the romantic type, but we’ve never experienced a Wednesday in her late teens, so this love triangle could symbolise this new stage in her life as a girl who’s almost reaching adulthood. Obviously, I’ll never know what they will do with the future seasons so I shouldn’t trust the process blindly, but I think this ambiguous love triangle is a pretty good start to start exploring this new Wednesday and her experience with love and relationships.
@Punipunpi_panda
@Punipunpi_panda Жыл бұрын
The only romance that worked with Wednesday was the 1990’s one in the summer camp. Though in this version of her I think I prefer her being Ace
@laurarowen6053
@laurarowen6053 Жыл бұрын
With Wednesday and Enid, it's definitely the healthiest ship, I just don't think they have romantic chemistry. However, they have that type of relationship where they could easily start having romantic chemistry if it is written that way.
@RandomSkyeRoses
@RandomSkyeRoses Жыл бұрын
At first, I just wanted her and Enid to be friends because I liked them as friends. However, I wouldn't mind if they became more than friends because at least Enid respected Wednesday's boundaries and never forced her to change unlike Xavier and Tyler
@Cardinalt
@Cardinalt Жыл бұрын
I’m still desperately holding onto the hope that they either put Enid and Wednesday together, or just don’t have her end up being in a relationship at all. There’s still hope for season two, *_please._*
@elri8792
@elri8792 Жыл бұрын
1) I hc Wednesday as lesbian + ace, and I would absolutely love if she ended up with Enid 2) I think that, if they let Xavier get over his little crush, Xavier + Wednesday would be an amazing (platonic) duo
@Squidrienn
@Squidrienn Жыл бұрын
I just realised all the chemistry I felt between Wednesday and Xavier was just me having a crush on him, and projecting that onto Wednesday ...
@nomusician4737
@nomusician4737 Жыл бұрын
The Xavier and Tyler thing is creepy as f*ck to me. In reality they would easily be called creeps or stalkers. She shows absolutely no romantic interest at all to either of them. The kiss that didn't happen in the crypt almost felt a "if I kiss him he might let me go" kind of thing. Kind of like a BJ to not get r@ped on a date thing almost... I guess the good thing is that it is pretty close to reality. I'm fortunate to be a guy and it hasn't happened to me. Usually the worst creeps that act like Xavier and Tyler are guys. I've got plenty enough female friends who said they got really creeped out of specially Xaviers behaviour.... I don't really understand why she went to the café when it was closed to be honest. That is the scene in the whole series that makes the least sense to me. It is so off character to me. Maybe getting the "the first guy I kiss turns out to be a monster" line could have been the reason but to me that's just lazy writing. I really hope they'll do season 2 without Wednesday going in to any romantic relationship at all. Not because she might be aroace, not having met the right guy/girl or whatever, but because it would be super refreshing with a show where people can be platonic. I truly think Wednesday loves Enid but I alos think it is 100% platonic.
@Loifey
@Loifey Жыл бұрын
It annoys be but I bet they will do the Tyler escapes arc and probably continuing the triangle drama.. the end kinda hints on him escaping but if he really does it would be really stupid because he’s literally locked in all ways and surrounded by people trying to make sure he doesn’t escapes
@kpoppy9635
@kpoppy9635 Жыл бұрын
@Loifey🎗 I think there could be a bigger threat in season 2 and they have to bust Tyler out for his Hyde abilities. Either that, or the villain in the next season busts him out. Idk...I personally like Tyler so I hope he comes back regardless.
@kpoppy9635
@kpoppy9635 Жыл бұрын
Wednesday went to the Cafe because she did share some affection for him. That's why she was so shaken up when she saw that he was the Hyde in her vision.
@Loifey
@Loifey Жыл бұрын
@@kpoppy9635 maybe he escapes and they try bust him out of his abilities and then it continues? yeah I also think there will be a bigger threat
@kpoppy9635
@kpoppy9635 Жыл бұрын
@Loifey🎗 I don't think there is a cure for being Hyde. I think its a matter of if Tyler can learn to control himself/ Wednesday controlling him. I meant that they free him out of jail because they have to use his abilities or need him for something.
@Yg0032
@Yg0032 Жыл бұрын
We gotta be honest and say that Wednesday is and has always been aroace. Even though this is an new iteration of the character, I feel like Wednesday’s personality and actions have always attributed to being aroace and in Ricci’s portrayal, Wednesday said she’d pity any man who would be in love with her and do anything for her. And with a character as iconic and culturally significant as Wednesday, this is the perfect opportunity to show aroace representation, so it was super disappointing to see her not only feel romantic attraction, but also straight attraction lmao. Like please at least put her in a queer relationship with Enid if we’re gonna place Wednesday in a relationship, don’t make it with a man🤢😂
@wheresbellaj2386
@wheresbellaj2386 Жыл бұрын
What about the Addams family musical?
@yaboiiyadudee3644
@yaboiiyadudee3644 Жыл бұрын
…. i don’t know if i’d agree that she has always been aroace, because other addams iterations have given her love interests, but i do think it’d be fine if she was aroace in the show.
@yukikanegawa7470
@yukikanegawa7470 Жыл бұрын
If you're counting the movie as canon with the show then keypoints are that she said man and that her parents relationship is one where Gomez is subservient. Gomez is Morticia's slave and proudly so. So she could've just meant that she thinks that's a pathetic life for a man. Also Wednesday is coded to not understand other's feelings in general, not just love. So it's more likely to be psychopathy or autism or antisocial disorder. Can still be aro/ace since that's not mutually exclusive from mental disorders. Also Morticia said she was just like Wednesday until she fell in love with Gomez. So she could just not have developed that part of herself yet. Late bloomers aren't uncommon. Some people really have no interest in romance until after high school or late high school.
@yukiandkanamekuran
@yukiandkanamekuran Жыл бұрын
i honestly think shes aroace + bi, maybe aro bisexual, ace biromantic, or just on the greyspec in general with being bi.
@Life-is-a-birdsong
@Life-is-a-birdsong Жыл бұрын
@c.rose1992: I ship Wednesday and Tyler. If anything he’s even more her type now, besides the killing thing because he was being controlled. Redemption arc!
@christinachristou6668
@christinachristou6668 Жыл бұрын
I swear xavier could not take a damn hint
@kanji134
@kanji134 Жыл бұрын
It’s crazy how people are getting mad about shipping Wednesday and Enid 🤦‍♀️😒
@chent8817
@chent8817 Жыл бұрын
right??? let people enjoy things... it's fictional
@kanji134
@kanji134 Жыл бұрын
@@chent8817 honestly and Jenna and Emma shipped them too so it’s kinda funny people getting mad 😂
@bananaxoonana8131
@bananaxoonana8131 Жыл бұрын
im surprised ppl are mad about that. i dont even ship them but its not illegal or anything and u can respect it
@sama9394
@sama9394 Жыл бұрын
I just finished watching the show. In my opinion, the writers didn't do well in terms of writing relationships and even friendships. Wednesday and Enid are really cute to see together and so many people even ship them (me included), but truth is we feel something for them because we can put them into a trope. Sunshine x Grumpy trope to be exact. When you really look at the show, they didn't have much build-up for us to feel a bond between them. In fact, none of the relationships did! I feel like they tried to go for the "bad guy vs. cute guy" with Xavier and Tyler but it didn't work, because again, no build-up. They didn't properly go into depth with their characters, we can't feel anything. Whenever either of them make a move on Wednesday, it makes the viewer feel like some interactions have happened behind the scenes to make Tyler, Xavier or even Wednesday feel the way they do.
@muffinfighter3680
@muffinfighter3680 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, for example, the argument between Enid and Wednesday just resolved without any resolation. Enid just came back without Wednesday having to do anything.
@kpoppy9635
@kpoppy9635 Жыл бұрын
The problem is its all one-sided cause Wednesday doesn't reciprocate like, at all. Enid and Wednesday did work together for the race and I think that really helped in building their friendship and understanding each other. I also think Tyler did have some build up. Both he and Wednesday were trapped in a small town and wanted to run away. Without knowing what Tyler was, you could make the argument he offered her a ride because he understood the desperation of wanting to get away. And then he was so intrigued by her, he wanted to get to know her more and starred liking her. Of course, at the end it's revealed the real reason why he was pushing Wednesday so hard to go to the dance and date him.
@quietchild2226
@quietchild2226 Жыл бұрын
Probably a bit biased, given I myself identify as being aroace, but Wednesday being aroace just kinda makes sense, y'know? Plus, with scenes like her being repulsed by her parents' love for each other in the very first episode, it kinda fits together even more. I could still get behind her and Enid, though, mostly 'cuz opposites and the fact that Enid just feels like a nice foil to Wednesday.
@1kiwi7
@1kiwi7 Жыл бұрын
watching ANY love triangle scene felt as though it was written by a whole new set of writers and not the ones in charge of everything else in the show, the tone in those scenes was so different compared to the rest of the show it was like they added it in out of nowhere and caught the other writers off guard
@EllaLeFavour
@EllaLeFavour Жыл бұрын
I hate love triangles with a burning passion
@justsomeferalminor
@justsomeferalminor Жыл бұрын
The romance is just so forced and on top of that guys getting upset because they think a girl ows them a romantic relationship literally leave Wendsday alone she's literally trying to not die rn
@cossodummy188
@cossodummy188 Жыл бұрын
I thought i would hate the romance in the show but i turn to love it. Watching two dudes fighting over no reward. Two teenagers that are too horny to realize that Wednesday is too busy with something eles. They really forces on the guys more then Wednesday on the romance which make it even more noticeable how dumb the two guys are. But sadly i dont fully ship Wednesday with her roommate. Her roommate just feel too stright to me and give boy crazy vibe to be with Wednesday. And Wednesday is just still trying to understand love to be into a relationship. Its a romance drama that have nothing to offer and i kinda like it. Feel too right for the show.
@the_kleetus-yeeyee48
@the_kleetus-yeeyee48 Жыл бұрын
But they should have just not do that
@cossodummy188
@cossodummy188 Жыл бұрын
@@the_kleetus-yeeyee48 why not i thought they did an excellent job on the romance with no payoff. Nothing more then a distraction for Wednesday. They did well on protracting teenagers boys being blind by hornness. It gets an A+ for me.
@moolayvitlok8410
@moolayvitlok8410 Жыл бұрын
the only reasen they added the love triangle was to make Wednesday more relatible which doesn't make a lot of sense because she's supposed to be the opposet of a 'normal' person
@Kameab1213
@Kameab1213 Жыл бұрын
I am asexual aromantic and honestly that's story makes a lot of sense. It does happen to us that sometimes people will assume we're sending signals when we're not. It is a problem because people look at another person and they just assumed that somehow they're on the market if they're not already taken and sometimes that person is just not on the market because they choose not to be. It does not stop other people from looking at you and assuming you're sending out some sort of signal that they are into you if you're just friendly. It's a really valid situation to put Wednesday in a situation where there are two people pining over her and saying that she's sending signals when she's not. Then they get all upset and hurt when she's realizing this and shoots them down. It's a really real situation. I related to it a lot.
@Carmin.Candelabre
@Carmin.Candelabre Жыл бұрын
I really don't feel like there's a love triangle... Xavier just acts like a pick-me all season and Wednesday straight up ignore or humiliate him. Sure at the end she apologized to Xavier and he gave him his number. However Wednesday still doesn't care. She's just nice because she knows he's not the culprit. What do you think ?
@haileyracine3608
@haileyracine3608 Жыл бұрын
I feel like a Wednesday romance could have been slower with more character development she's so adverse to following her parents path, and finding a romance in Nevermore seems like exactly their path. Not to mention how against physical touch she is, and yet she kisses Tyler before even hugging Ined. Like you mentioned at the beginning her motives were not romantic and she was mostly just using him if they wanted a romance it could have been done done better, more profound, more character development. I think
@ZeroToHero22
@ZeroToHero22 Жыл бұрын
whilst i can see a wednesday enid ship i also just really love them as they are. having a true and genuine female friendship. i feel like we don't get that a lot so it's nice to see
@Certification_Achieved
@Certification_Achieved Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I could never picture Wednesday with a love interest, let alone 2.
@jazzy8834
@jazzy8834 Жыл бұрын
I totally agree ! I felt that the love triangle was kinda unnecessary
@emi-love
@emi-love Жыл бұрын
tbh i don’t understand why they have to give her a love interest i don’t like xavier i don’t like tyler and i like enid and her as friends it just makes more sense. it’s just weird to think of her even in relationship with her being emotionaless i don’t think they should touch anything dealing with her sexuality or relationship (romantic ones) i just think they should make the show more interesting give more stories and call it a day NOT EVERY SHOW NEEDS A ROMANTIC STORYLINE
@laurarowen6053
@laurarowen6053 Жыл бұрын
I say I don't hate the love triangle because I find it funny, but I've recently started to wonder if that's just me pushing through the pain... Anyway, I am honestly happy that Tyler is the monster because now all the things I didn't like about him before are explained. My headcanon is that he was forced to start this romantic relationship with Wednesday to keep her off his trail by Laurel (I imagine that he cringed on the inside when he had to say the whole "mixed signals" thing). I honestly think if he were himself, he wouldn't have given Wednesday the time of day, but since he was forced to know her, he actually did start to like her. This is the only reason I like this ship slightly.
@StayingFast
@StayingFast Жыл бұрын
It’s almost like fake dating tropes. I actually like this take.
@kelalia
@kelalia Жыл бұрын
not a love triangle, though... Those work like this: A loves B, B loves C and C loves A. A perfect example of a real love triangle is Shakespeare's Twelfth Night. What you got there buddy is a love corner or love angle OR as Red from OSP calls it: a love-bend-line
@_chEEZ
@_chEEZ Жыл бұрын
At first I was so happy that Wednesday appeared to have some aro/ace coding (especially when she tells her mum that she’ll never fall in love) bet then I was a bit skeptical and upset when she said that Sartre was her first crush and I was extremely disappointed when she ended up in this love triangle. But HEY! At least she’s not showing any signs of RECIPROCATING! Oh WAIT! HERE COMES THE KISS! Yeah that annoyed me Thank you for coming to my ted talk.
@MrCupcakeMonkey
@MrCupcakeMonkey Жыл бұрын
I think they're going with the fact that in season 1 you're supposed think Tyler's feelings are fake. But in season 2 they could say they were real because Laurel never said to date her, that was all him and wasn't necessary to the plan
@somerandomcommenter1235
@somerandomcommenter1235 Жыл бұрын
He was gonna kill her though with no remorse so
@youdontneedtoknowwhoiam6640
@youdontneedtoknowwhoiam6640 Жыл бұрын
@@somerandomcommenter1235 that was Laurel's control. Of you remember in the episode before last they cover a Hyde has to be loyal to their master, no matter how nefarious a task the master asks of them. From how they set up Tyler it seems like he hasn't been himself the entire show.
@somerandomcommenter1235
@somerandomcommenter1235 Жыл бұрын
@@youdontneedtoknowwhoiam6640 still the likely hood of Tyler x Wednesday is quite low given the species hyde and their reputation
@youdontneedtoknowwhoiam6640
@youdontneedtoknowwhoiam6640 Жыл бұрын
@@somerandomcommenter1235 I wasn't saying they had to get together lol, what I meant was I don't think Tyler's evil. I think it would be interesting for him to return as real Tyler and be Nevermore's first Hyde student in 30 years, then build up to being friends (and only friends) with Wednesday. I don't think Wednesday is aro/ace or into women (at least from what they've shown in the current only season), and Xavier and her don't really work, so as far as shipping goes I'd hope they either introduce a more nerdy/normal guy to be her love interest or someone more gothic and socially oblivious like her.
@somerandomcommenter1235
@somerandomcommenter1235 Жыл бұрын
@@youdontneedtoknowwhoiam6640 ok
@pikameer8325
@pikameer8325 Жыл бұрын
I'm coming at this from the perspective of an ace lesbian that's also on the aro spectrum, but I have mixed feelings about Wednesday being aroace canonically. On one hand, representation is great, but I also don't want the "aroace people are emotionless 'weirdos"" stereotype to be overdone in media, and I feel like Wednesday would play into that too well. Because of that, I feel like Wenclair is/would be an interesting dynamic to go with because of their ability to push each other and grow in different ways. Enid becomes a little more devious and gains confidence doing things with Wednesday and is finally able to wolf out because of Wednesday being in danger. Wednesday learns to care about someone while still retaining her personality and independence, and I feel like that shows a lot about he character. There's a major shift from the first episode with her trying to escape the school, to the middle of the season with her staying for the mystery, and more towards the end with her building bonds with Eugene and caring about Enid to the point where she **pulled her back into a hug**. I feel like actually good lesbian representation is so very very *very* hard to find in the media and this dynamic is so perfect and would be such good representation because of how it naturally developed through the character and actor chemistry. Wednesday can also be aro, ace, or both and still be a lesbian! It's not mutually exclusive. It just seems sometimes like people headcanon her as aroace because she's relatively emotionless and that's just not what being aroace is. Anyway that's my spiel. As much as a wrote about it here, I don't care which way they go as long as it's not with one of the love triangle options... we haven't seen the last of Tyler and they're still hinting at a possibility with Xavier. Here's to hoping for no love triangle shenanigans next season haha
@onegaimatte1845
@onegaimatte1845 Жыл бұрын
"I feel like collectively she has been our crush for some time" yesssssssssss
@fae2797
@fae2797 Жыл бұрын
i walked into this show not expecting a triangle love drama tbh. In the end, i felt like Wednesday has more emotional connection with Enid and Eugene respectively than both Tyler and Xavier combined. (Spoiler) She wasn't even upset or felt betrayed when she knew Tyler's true identity, but girlie was devastated when it came to Enid and Eugene
@kpoppy9635
@kpoppy9635 Жыл бұрын
What show did you watch? Wednesday was clearly shaken up when she found out Tyler was the Hyde. She literally ran away while hyperventilating!
@elenanojkovic2554
@elenanojkovic2554 Жыл бұрын
She really gives me ace/aro vibes (granted, I may be biased as I am also on romantic and asexual spectrum), though I see why people ship her with Enid. I still prefer them as friends though. What I was most annoyed about when it comes to her interactions with the guys is that implication that "opening up to people and accepting them into your life" automatically means "you must also find romance ane be open up to it," that the show gave me. Kind of making it seem like her rejecting Typer and Xavier was a "bad thing" and accepting the date and romance with Tyler was a "good thing". And, as you pointed out, she never gave me the vibe of someone who is rejecting them because she is afraid of romance or something. She just doeasn't give a fuck. People do need other people in our lives, friends, family whether biological or chosen/found family. But this implication that you'resomehow colder or closed off or not a full person because you are not romantically interested in people has been used against me personally (by my former psychologist no less, acephobia in medical system is rampant)
@charlotteroach6222
@charlotteroach6222 Жыл бұрын
hear me out….wednesday and bianca. dont u agree theres chemistry there? the tension of the fencing scene, to the dance when wednesday calls bianca beautiful, to bianca saving wednesday’s life from crackstone? incredible. even platonic i love the development of their friendship.
@szaboluca5536
@szaboluca5536 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!! Honestly the whole time, every scene w Xavier I at least once "god you are such a pick me! Just take a hint buddy!" This love "triangle" was truly frustrating to watch..
@MomoManimi
@MomoManimi Жыл бұрын
Yeah.... Wednesday and Enid have a better relationship because they are FRIENDS. I feel like people take for granted how necessary a good best friend is for any girl, but especially Wednesday who tends to isolate herself. Enid is important as a platonic best friend, it shows that Wednesday can make meaningful, close relationships without any ulterior motives like the boys have. ALSO, Enid has a BOYFIREND! And they are literally so cute together, i would love to see them explored more! You guys are such a mess, can't just see a friendship and appreciate it for what it is.
@vi3676
@vi3676 Жыл бұрын
just respect people's opinions and are you talking about the bf that waited 1 week to tell her he couldn't come to their date bc he stoned himself. Enid and Wednesday have more chemistry than any of the other ships
@MomoManimi
@MomoManimi Жыл бұрын
@@vi3676 Is that supposed to be some sort of big reason not to ship Enid and her bf?? Because its not. It's Definitely not as bad as what Wednesday has put Enid through, Enid even moved out of their room because of Wednesday's selfishness, lying to her, and then putting her life at risk😐. Cmon bro.
@vi3676
@vi3676 Жыл бұрын
@@MomoManimi like i just said you don't have to stop shipping them b ut you could just respect people's opinions i personally felt that enid and ajax felt very rzushed and bland but it doesn't i'm gonna be upset with yiu for shipping the
@jameshorn6284
@jameshorn6284 Жыл бұрын
You know you could just let people ship what they want. You are aware that there are other friendships in this show right. Also having a boyfriend doesn't mean anything. There are such things as bisexuality and pansexuality and whole lot of other sexualities that aren't just interested in one gender.
@MomoManimi
@MomoManimi Жыл бұрын
@@jameshorn6284 Okay, so your comment makes no sense. Also, you missed the part where i said that what's NESSESARRY (IMO) Is Wednesday's ONLY close friendship in the series, Which is with Enid. Other friendships in the series aren't NEARLY as close, if ANY bc i don't even consider Bianca a friend at this point. I said that alot of you are dismissing the importance of a good best friend for a girl (especially one like Wednesday who tends to isolate herself). And alot of people aren't appreciating their friendship for what it is. And having a boyfriend means she's taken. To be blunt. Means alot, actually. But i WILL say, that in a tv series, you never know.
@Aardydarling
@Aardydarling Жыл бұрын
I feel like I really honed in on when she was telling her mom that she would be not continuing the family love and I felt disappointed by the love triangles
@gameflowergirl5918
@gameflowergirl5918 Жыл бұрын
I personally like to think of her as aroace because I feel like that's just closer to her personality but I love the friendship of her and Enid and I think It's very cute!
@rocksanaarshadi8
@rocksanaarshadi8 Жыл бұрын
this channel is my comfort channel.
@skyebi
@skyebi Жыл бұрын
Preach queen preach!!!!!! This was exactly my thoughts when I watched the show! I felt as though she had no chemistry with either of the boys in a romantic context (barely even platonic chemistry either) and they were acting so entitled to her! It just boiled my blood!!! But Enid and Wednesday had potential! They're literally so cute together, if a ship that has no chemistry can work then they will work amazingly! Also I saw that little nod to LGBTQ conversion camps with the lycanthropy conversion camp bit
@thekueken
@thekueken Жыл бұрын
I'd think, it would best serve the show and character if Wednesday remained on "Team Wednesday" for another while, coming into herself and the changes of puberty and all. And then, if you'd, like, put a gun to her head and made her choose, she'd... well, first she'd laugh and dare you to pull the trigger, then while you're confused she'd make you regret your life's choices, before slipping out, overwhelming you, torturing you a bit... and eventually she might say, "Well, while this was fun... Since you asked: I don't believe in having only value in life for having a relationship or that I need one to elevate myself in any way. But... right, okay, if you'd ask me with which of those other three I would like to engage more. as in like, a partnership... of sorts.. I would say neither. But, if I only have these as options... then I have to say... and this pains me to admit... but, yes, I would find the least dread in partnering up with... I will regret saying this. ...Enid." And then she will threaten to cut off your tongue if you ever so much whisper that revelation to anyone else. And then decide to do it anyway, just in case.
@woomygosh
@woomygosh Жыл бұрын
Enids and Wednesdays hug got me SOBBING my god
@-satanicpanic-
@-satanicpanic- Жыл бұрын
This! I felt like the love triangle was so awkwardly included, like please no- anyways Enid x Wednesday for the win
@gh-ps5es
@gh-ps5es Жыл бұрын
I disagree with the sentiment that Wednesday wouldn't necessarily want a love interest; regardless of whether or not she is romantic or aromantic, the point is that whatever relationships she forms, she struggles with indulging her desires and has a difficult time connecting with others in the conventional way, but when she does manage to connect, she gives them her whole heart in her own twisted and sincere way. Her relationship with Tyler seemed relatively superficial, it was too subtle especially by Wednesday standards. To me, the writing was one-dimensional, and felt unfortunately unnecessary
@danicalejic1345
@danicalejic1345 Жыл бұрын
Yess!! New video!
@alchemistofsteel8099
@alchemistofsteel8099 Жыл бұрын
Honestly from the first two episodes Wednesday and Tyler gave me Sibling vibes, so it was surprisingly when Tyler just started simping for her
@Tzimisce_Joe
@Tzimisce_Joe Жыл бұрын
I personally would have liked Wensday as ACE. The show was really good. But it felt completely built by checklist. I can see Tyler's reason to try to get close because ................ With how white bread the 2 guys were just shows the "teen drama" checklist. But then the red herrings were telegraphed aswell.
@v.t.3064
@v.t.3064 Жыл бұрын
I personally see Wednesday as aroace, but I have heard a Wednesday x Bianca ship which I also can get behind.
@dudaoliveira2601
@dudaoliveira2601 Жыл бұрын
i feel like tyler was mostly using wednesday, and the line about signals was more about he trying to somehow pressure her that actually meaning something. the monster saves wednesday because they needed her to be the key, and i understood that he was being "romantic" with her so would be easier to get her both of his trail and to go to the places the master wanted her to be. And i do see enid and wednesday hug as more meaningful then the kiss, and in my eyes, it was supposed to be. And, even tho i don't dislike the ship of wednesday and enid, it would be really cool to see friendships being held in the same level of importance of different kinds of relationships. I do think it was more of a friendship based hug, and overall interactions between the two girls. i also am not the biggest fan of xavier and wednesday. i don't know, i just couldn't bring myself to shipp it. i think they could be really good friends tho. Honestly, i think what i would prefer is the show ending up with a comparison of gomes and moticia finding love with each other during their time at nevermore and wednesday finding love with friendships and her personal passions, as writing and solving misterys, for example. i think i'm leaning more towards an wednesday in the aroace spectrum for now.
@ateawithoney
@ateawithoney Жыл бұрын
agree on so much in this review, great video!!
@monster-enthusiast
@monster-enthusiast Жыл бұрын
I would like Enid and Wednesday platonic life partners please and thank you
@jameshorn6284
@jameshorn6284 Жыл бұрын
You can want that and I can want them to date. Neither is right or wrong.
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