The Unsolved Murder That Made This Inbred Boy Famous

[@martinh8784]

Also, since this happened in 1922 - Schlittenbauer might have been a WW I Veteran. If Schlittenbauer had seen a lot of carnage during WW I, his "sorting through the dead" might have been another explanation - he checked for survivors or other signs. There are lots of stories that German WWI Veterans had difficulties reintegrating and displayed behaviours that made sense in the trenches but shocked the folks back home.

[@benmcreynolds8581]

That's one of the reasons why this case is so bizarre.. it genuinely is such a crazy case... It's really difficult to pin down to one suspect over the other.. There's incest, stories about the family/previous maid hearing someone up in the attic.. just the way they were all killed.. the killer stayed at the house.. there was a bunch of money that wasn't taken. It really is one of those murder cases that horror stories are inspired by.. (for example: The Amityville case is nothing compared to this case. Yet Amityville got turned into this absurd horror movie)

[@saphireflare4183]

Not to mention as a farmer he is probably used to seeing dead things. That they were human remains vs animal could be a minor difference depending on how his mind worked

[@beckybodaschweri9215]

I am super confused about one thing - and ultimately I guess it's not super important, at least to us watching this video - but how do they know that they had been killed 4 days before they were found? Especially back then I would have thought they wouldn't be able to determine the time of/since death very accurately, at least to the degree we are able to, today

[@mackenziedesire7515]

@@beckybodaschweri9215 Crime scene science was surprisingly advanced already by the 1920s! I mean, not DNA advanced obviously, but I think they could pretty accurately estimate a time of death based on decomposition vs environment by that point in time. I think we often underestimate how recent 100 years ago really is (and just how insanely fast technology has advanced in the past few decades) in the grand scheme of human advancements!

[@P-Switch5482]

They were dead for 4 days, he would've known there were no survivors - body decomposition isn't a pretty thing. Each of them would have looked terrifying. Not gonna get into the details of the time line of decomposition cuz it's morbid af, so feel free to look it up. There's no way in hell he wouldn't have known they were all dead. Even a blind person would know based on smell alone.

[@oefzdegoeggl]

I live 30km from this place. Nothing of the farm remains on site today, it's just a field. But although it was free standing without any direct neighbours, it was not that remote ... the next village is in walking distance.

[@lightningstriking7]

Do you really expect us to believe any of the crap you just told us? Just stop it!!!!

[@agostinodublino1387]

and if only he wrote the name of the case in the title instead of this pure clickbait... he wasn't even inbred. This channel s*cks.

[@VitalienGuerin]

You need to point out that walking distance for Germans and for other people, well, have absolutely different meanings, when you remember how Germans love to walk 🗿

[@drew2000four]

I guess we have different definitions of remote 😅

[@JackColdstream]

48.5944, 11.3222 (coordinates for the memorial site from a quick google search) Minutes to walk to Gröbern: 5 Minutes to walk to Waidhofen: 35 Both of these should be everyone’s understanding of walking distance.

[@palmetto.]

Imagine finding unexplained footsteps in the snow leading to your farm, hearing unexplained noises (that sound like footsteps) from your attic, and your keys suddenly going missing, and not putting all of that together?? Come on dude...

[@djmossssomjd8496]

Agreed, the attic'd be the first place to check! Just might have saved all those lives too.

[@CantTellYou]

Seriously I don’t understand how they didn’t realize they had a ghost in there the whole time

[@Vix2066]

​@@CantTellYou plot twist! They didn't realise the farm was built on ancient Indian burial ground🤣

[@bobaquatics6776]

@@Vix2066 It was in germany, there are no ancient indian burial grounds ;-)

[@Lisa-x3n5x]

They'd just finished a war. I imagine they were all a bit shell shocked. (The term used back then before PTSD was coined).

[@redwolfcanisrufus]

As many times as ive heard this story yours is the only version where they mention facts instead instead of just a scary story. Major props 42 :)

[@95rav]

well, they could, as a minimum, do DNA testing to confirm at least one theory.

[@drakejoshofficialyoutubech5569]

@@95rav Hate to burst your bubble, but DNA testing wasn't invented until the 1980s, meaning that in the likely scenario where no DNA evidence was collected, then we wouldn't have any DNA evidence to link to a potential killer.

[@vanessamcdonald1071]

Facts? Are you high? It was 100 years ago how tg e F would he know facts? He is making shit up as he goes

[@Frankie5Angels150]

It’s “Thoughty-2”. It’s right in the name of the channel.

[@ElysetheEevee]

​@95rav Back in the 1920s, really? People can try to do stuff now about it, but it's really difficult when the crime info is so old and so limited.

[@thomasbrown8468]

Truth. I was working in downtown Sheffield. Muscle shoal Alabama and was redoing one of the old buildings upstairs. It was always dark. Third day I worked my way to the back wall. It was a curtain pulled tight and you could look in behind the tight pulled black sheet. A small room from a squatter who had obviously been there a while. I was working by myself. Probably in 2003. I was so creepy because I had kept hearing noises I never noticed the window upstairs wasn’t visible from upstairs. And all basements connected right across from the old ritz theater. I was scared to. I never found anyone or exactly how they got in. Left a note. My boss was nice enough to do. Finally tore it down a week later. I think I was in the upstairs working and someone was 20 ft away the entire time. I still get the creeps when I think about the moment I realized I hadn’t been alone. True story. It’s one of the creepiest things I’ve felt. Long time ago but I remember I went to sit tools against the back wall and realized it was a sheet. There was a mattress candles and a gold chain. Really strange. 😮. I know they had to be in there the couple of days before.

[@coryevert2224]

Makes it extra scary to if you think about maybe if you had discovered them they might have been waiting to bonk you but you just didn't get close enough...

[@JL-vq1gl]

Most likely, they were as scared as you were or more. They knew they didn't own that property and how much trouble they could get in, or they wouldn't have worked hard to hide their presence. I mean: definitely not downplaying how scary this had to be for you. But, maybe humanizing the squatter in your mind will help you heal and take away some of its power.

[@nathanwagnon5406]

Yes, the murders you alluded to in passing were in Villisca, Iowa. And it is still one of the most baffling and heartbreaking murders ever, since the victims were mostly children. With practically non-existing forensics there was never a chance the perpetrator would be found, but interestingly enough the investigators focused on someone arriving and escaping by train. Which does make the most sense.

[@jillniemczynski5517]

I stayed overnight in the Villisca Axe Murder House. Very creepy. So many details of that crime are the same. Have a great day 🤗🌞

[@Cec9e13]

YES, the Villisca ax murders! My dad had family in the area, that's a personal fascination of ours.

[@simplyramona8678]

But the Villisca murders don't match, in that the bodies were NOT piled up as in Hinterkaifeck. In Villisca, the bodies were left where they were killed, in their respective beds. I don't think this supposed connection is true.

[@brianbuckley2307]

​@@simplyramona8678 they switch it up if they killed so meny people because everyone they kill is bring them closer to being found out

[@evilpompom]

That comment about there not being any footprints leading away from the farm actually gave me goosebumps 😅

[@MoeSlislack]

this is the most detailed version of this story that i've heard so far. you did a great job as usual.

[@danielelliott3963]

Never heard the story b4. But thanks 42 I now know good bday presents for a few people. The man from the train. & If it's most detailed don't need to search KZbin net further. Che@MoeSlislack😂😅 just realised handle👍

[@CineMiamParis]

If you’re interested, the Casefile podcast (also on YT) has a lot more details.

[@Brevxwop]

@@CineMiamParisloo

[@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812]

Bedtime Stories did a good video on it

[@Alyathaean]

There are plenty of dolls about the case. Most German. It's a reoccurring topic here.

[@arkansaninva]

I never realized you did the animations yourself! I was sure you had editors to do it for you!

[@voras7376]

r u a real 42fan? Did u even knew that he has a cornhub acc where he posts?

[@6lives526]

They do look a lot like the INFOGRAPHICS SHOW KZbin channel animations.

[@seancarter6492]

I also never realized till now that he's reading a script next to the camera. I'm not complaining, just an observation lol.

[@bobmalooga7249]

it a softwear package thingey, lot of people use it 🙂

[@Trctnctrl0ff888]

The graft has evolved very well. Absolute professional.

[@tanchauee1165]

If the adult in the house didn't check the attic, probably they knew who is up there...

[@Ron-d2s]

Other telling's have them checking the attic and not finding anything.

[@craigoliver8712]

​@@Ron-d2sYes as good as Thoughty is,he isn't thorough in this 1,didn't mention the Nazi newspaper found in the area that sparked a theory

[@robertsollory7475]

I have heard this case many times before on KZbin but this is my favourite telling or retelling of it. Thoughty2 is usually the best with many things.

[@klarabarunovic9841]

"Many things"?! 🤔

[@robertsollory7475]

@@klarabarunovic9841 many subjects then.

[@WildDog79]

​@@klarabarunovic9841 a killer moustache being one of the mamy things

[@velvetharnish9957]

Great story. Thanks so much!!❣️

[@chickencurry69420]

i do find the fact that lorenz so willingly moved the bodies interesting, there could be the possibility he commited the crime, knew his fingerprints would be on the bodies so in oder to get an excuse, he moved them infront of witnesses which would explain his fingerprints and there would be people able to confirm it

[@excentrik5725]

yes, that makes sense

[@CantTellYou]

Or a better excuse, “you’re honor I’m just a weirdo, I am freaky as shit”

[@Animanarchy]

​@CantTellYou lol, nice, sounds like a solid excuse.

[@dryb3301]

Exactly my thoughts

[@daciefusjones8128]

sounds like he was a Narcissistic psychopath and who ever did it is deranged.

[@fullthrottlewrx]

You should cover the story of Timothy Dexter - no murders but one of the most HILARIOUS stories of all time about a man who kept receiving BAD financial advice, yet by stupid luck making stupid amounts of money from it! ex: was suggested by an enemy to ship copious amounts of mittens to Jamaica in an attempt to ruin his finances - ended up selling to a cargo ship ported in the Caribbean that was heading to Siberia

[@ravaanighaemmaghamy64]

I LOVE your animations just as they are. They are refreshingly simple and clear. Very cleverly created. 💕

[@duudsuufd]

These animations are much better than on other channels, where they put a lot of unrelated real images in it.

[@4RILDIGITAL]

This case is genuinely chilling and full of mystery even after a century. The way you presented this information kept me hooked throughout. The theories you discussed are so intricate and thought-provoking, makes you think just how complex and baffling human nature can be.

[@CartoonHero1986]

From the title I did not expect this to be about Hinterkaifeck, but I love that you covered it. I thought this was going to be about "the devil's footprints in the snow" that happened over a 60km chunk of East and South Devon in 1855 (not sure if you've covered that one before)

[@mustafasaeed9109]

"Hey, 42 here🥰🥰😊😊🥰💅😊"

[@actionboi05]

Thirty2

[@Spinosaurus44]

My god, looks like I’m not the only one 😮

[@Aramis419]

The answer to life, the universe, and everything.

[@EnDB]

I'm 42 too😂😂😂

[@joshuah.4496]

I’ve always wondered if he’s actually saying 42 because it sure sounds like it. If that’s the case anyone know why his channel is named Thoughty2?

[@cynthiaduval4534]

Happy New Year! I've heard this story before. But your version adds so much more. Love watching your videos.

[@benmcreynolds8581]

This is a really creepy case. I really wish there was a way to do further forensic evidence investigating about this case. So much about it is so eerie. I wish we could get definitive answers about this horrific event

[@josephfranzen9196]

It’s wild that Andreas’s brother Hans went onto become the leader of one of the most notable terrorist attacks in Los Angeles at Nakatomi Plaza.

[@barbyriffle3392]

😂

[@grannyoakley20]

😂😂😂

[@simplyramona8678]

LoL

[@JaelaOrdo]

I knew the video was about Hinterkaifeck and still watched despite my familiarity with the story, knew I’d still be entertained. Great content as always Thoughty2 and happy new year 👍🏾

[@DaiM373]

Same I'm a true crime aficionado so when I saw the title I already knew that it was going to be about the Hinterkaifeck murders, still gave it a watch since the way he presents these videos is always entertaining.

[@nathalie_desrosiers]

On the Wikipedia page, it's said: "Andreas was found to be raping his daughter and the town convicted them both of incest." She was *raped* but still convicted? WTF?

[@janetpendlebury6808]

Unfortunately rape victims were often seen as bringing it on themselves, by the way they dressed or acted etc. This is why rape was seldom reported in the 1900's, even as recently as the 1980's rape victims rarely got any justice, and were put through hell in court if it got that far.

[@Self-Aware-Russian-Bot]

​@@janetpendlebury6808yeah turns out going to the frat party on the other side of town with men you don't know was just as likely to get you raped back then as it does now. But you know women will blame everything but themselves for putting themselves in a bad position.

[@unschuldshascherl]

I think English Wikipedia is a little misleading here. They were both only convicted for an incestuous relationship, Andreas was not convicted for rape. The thing is it started when Viktoria was 16 years old therefore from todays point of view and laws it was rape, no matter what. Yes even when it comes to German laws even though the age of consent is lower than in the US but since he was the father and she a minor it would be rape. Source: German Wikipedia which is far more detailed than the English one, naturally (the conviction - that they are misleading and the writers just named the crime how it would be today is just a logical conclusion).

[@nathalie_desrosiers]

@@unschuldshascherl I understand your point. But the fact is that she was 99.99% surely not consent. So I don't understand why *she* was convicted of something.

[@pv2639]

​@@nathalie_desrosiersthis was 1922. Go ask them 🙄

[@draganluzija3823]

Happy New Year, Arran. Hoping the new year brings you the same joy you always bring us

[@spencerthompson1]

You are a very talented researcher and story teller. You do a good job of editing yourself, meaning that you boil a mountain of evidence down to the most poignant facts without getting bogged down in pointless manusha. Keep up the good work.

[@davidroddini1512]

I hadn’t heard of this story before. Thanks for bringing it to our attention!

[@spukeecan69]

As soon as you mentioned the footprints I knew it was the Hinterkaifeck murders. I first heard it on Mr. Ballen but thank you for bringing it to life with your animation!

[@yourmom2189]

Same! But did he mention anything about what happened after or the suspension of incest? I don’t remember.

[@TheKulu42]

I like how you presented this account. As for Mueller as a suspect, I've read "The Man From the Train" more than once--a couple of these cases occurred not far from where I live--and I can see how his profile fits when happened at the Hinterkaifeck farm.

[@blackforest_fairy]

while he would be a fit... if he really had returned to Germany and this was his doing... how come that he suddenly stopped? there was no second case like this in Germany.

[@birdflipper]

The one thing that leads me to believe that the killer was someone that the victims knew is if they were in fact lured to the barn and killed one at a time bc nobody is going to go into the barn with a stranger who was trespassing on the property, especially in light of all the strange happenings that had them all freaked out to begin with! If the killer had a gun I would say it's possible, but it appears he only had the hammer that they were killed with. I think the most likely suspect is the returning military man that found his wife had left him for another man.

[@funkyfranx]

He needn’t have lured them to barn, he could have hidden there and just waited until one of them went in there to check on the animals. He kills them, then the next person goes to the barn alone wondering what’s taking person 1 so long. Repeat

[@oneoflokis]

💯

[@oneoflokis]

​@@funkyfranx💯

[@アヴェンチューラティアマトサザナミ]

A missing body was not unusual also because the shells could blow you right to bits. Enough corpses could have fit into a shoebox once the wasteland was save enough to go and get them. Which didn't mean that someone could go or find them necessarily.

[@stevepirie8130]

Bodies were sometimes buried then uncovered by artillery several times smashing them up in No Man’s land so I can totally believe her husband was dead.

[@rob-time]

Good episode! I love a good mystery. Also, I see in the comments that you do your own graphics, that's a lot of work and well done. However, one of the reasons that I like your channel, is that I can listen to it while I got about my day and still get a lot out of it. Very well done, no matter how it is consumed.

[@zeusedoo9291]

Hey Thoughty2 thank you so much for all the kickass videos you gave us thru out the year. Happy New Year to you and your family. Looking forward to what you will bring us in 2024.😍

[@rebeccachilders5549]

Some of the best commentary on this subject I've found...how you told the story and put the theories together were amazing...I wish I could join you on the other platform and when I'm able I will....I will be subscribing to this channel for sure...very intriguing and your voice is the icing on the cake 😊

[@Maven0666]

I appreciate every story you do 42. Even the unsolved ones from one hundred years ago.

[@Lfelipedlc]

I just learned today is his FORTY SECOND birthday!!! Happy birthday 42!!! 😆

[@wolfzmusic9706]

No way he's 42

[@magdatorruellas9122]

Who?

[@megs4193]

Wow, i didn't realise how very much I've missed your videos, you and the Oddest J are amazing story retellers ❤❤❤😊.

[@DrethNET]

I've been saying for years I will never cease to be amazed by Thoughty2's incredible talent and being able to create his videos by himself. Proof of that in this episode's sponsor. Long live Thoutghty2 and may the naysayers but struck down internet intermittency.

[@Kurtsw87]

Heard this story before; but never with the facts laid out like this, with the level of detail you've put in. Thanks agan for some brilliant content, love learning with you!

[@fmpanda1]

Thank you! You covered it well. This case has always intrigued me. Can you cover the Murder of Artemus Ogletree?

[@davidlancaster8152]

Thanks for sharing the details on this most bizarre case. Noise in the attic is innuendous. Have a great New Year

[@conversemackem8653]

Thank you, Thoughty2 for all your posts. I'm so intrigued and fascinated by everyone.please keep them coming 👏

[@sdaniel9129]

Thanks Arran! Happy new years... Greetings from the Netherlands!

[@comedianmattrossey]

HAPPY NEW YEAR ARRON!!! All the best in 2024. I always enjoy your videos no matter what the subject is, and always look forward to more videos from you. Keep Safe and Always Inspiring, Matt - Toronto, Canada

[@krypticoctopus6892]

It always makes me smile when I see a new Thoughty2 video show up in my feed. The obscure, insightful, and highly interesting stories are always a great watch! Thank you for the content!!

[@EdCos]

Happy New Year and as always, thanks so much for a very entertaining and interesting video

[@themechanic6]

Thank you for your videos these are literally my favorite uploads on KZbin.

[@felmaster3534]

I heard of this story before, but not in such a well made way! You're awesome, and many of the older folks in my village that I introduced to your channel love your work as well!

[@dexterhuntington2495]

Happy new year thoughty,may it be blessed with good health and prosperity.

[@JMurdochNZ]

Given how isolated the farm was, the random drifter idea seems improbable.

[@matildasmith8128]

First time watching one of your vids and was seriously impressed between the content, editing, commentary, delivery and style! Defs dropping a sub and a like 👍

[@Gambo8807]

I was not expecting that sound @14:00

[@FUNRobster]

I'm loving all you videos, been watching them every Tuesday when I work from home. They are entertaining, sometimes even very informative on certain subjects. In all, keep up the good work :D

[@carollewis5931]

I did hear strange noises from the attic of the house I grew up in. My dad heard it too it sounded like chains being dragged my mother didn't hear a thing. I also grew up on a farm which was pretty isolated

[@CantTellYou]

Easy explanation that was just the ghost of Chain-Man

[@oneoflokis]

Those are some very interesting theories you have there, Thoughty. More than I've seen on other channels. Especially the "prodigal son" and "the man from the train".

[@xsenjhiro]

The culprit was the farmer's son who everyone thought died during the war, in fact he was not dead but seriously injured it took him several years to recover from his injuries, and when he returned home, he noticed that strange things were happening on the farm and he preferred to hide in the barn and spy on them to see what was happening, and what he saw made him angry.

[@JillyMsings]

Thank you for another great episode ! Love your channel . 😃 The animations are excellent ! ❤

[@lexigrimhaive]

I’m so glad you covered this!! For anyone still curious, there’s actually a lot more information than everything thoughty2 already covered (tho still not enough to definitively determine the murderer!! 😩).

[@furanduron4926]

Mrballen

[@Animanarchy]

​@@furanduron4926 He doesn't condense much, even adds in details he couldn't possibly know like "She took a moment when she got home and sighed while thinking about [this aspect] of her life".. unless he has been the criminal all along! (And a psychic). Just playing; I'm a bit of a fan. I just find some of his videos are too long for me to want to listen to and some too embellished with unknown details so the narrative has more of a humanized and emotional impact, which is nice, but to me feels like extra superfluous frivilous clutter sometimes.

[@MrJaycrow30]

This case has always intrigued me! Thanks for all you do Sir Arran! Happy New Year's! cheers

[@seancarter6492]

I've always respected how good he is at using hand and head gestures to cover the fact that he's reading a script next to the camera.

[@CantTellYou]

tbh if our eyes didn’t move with the words I would have never known there was a script being read

[@seancarter6492]

@@CantTellYou hahaha I found out completely by accident. I was spacing off and happened to pick it up! 😆

[@conradmanley2180]

Great to have you back for another year. 👍 Always a good day when a new video arrives. Keep up the excellent work. ❤

[@bridgetsclama]

I think it was the son-in-law. Though reportedly killed during WW I, no body ever recovered, it's very possible that he was seriously injured and appeared dead or they assumed he was dead, left him where he was (common during wars--usually shallow graves if any at all because of the sheer number of bodies), and either woke up or was found and nursed back to health, maybe not even knowing his own name for those years. He shows up and finds that his wife had had a child during his absence and just lost it. That would also explain the stacking of bodies....just like in war. No matter who did it, it's unlikely to have been their first murder. Murderers don't start with an entire family.

[@joycebrandon]

I think people with little to no history of violence who commit acts like this are "family annihilators"

[@zenfrodo]

Yes, they do, and have. It depends on the murderer. Look up the case of Paul List, or Ronnie DeFeo (of the infamous Amityville House backstory), or check out "family annihilators" or familicide on Wikipedia.

[@kellidinit3725]

Plenty have. Usually family. Just had one a couple years ago here in Ohio.

[@everettfranklin4224]

So I never have actually heard of this case before and from what I can tell you’ve done an amazing job here again. I’m so glad I found your channel and have been a subscriber for a while but amazing as usual.

[@dustinyawn2968]

Love this channel, been subscribed for going on a couple years now. Thanks for all the hard work and great content!

[@ZomBeeNature]

I never heard of this before. My opinion is the knocking was Powderpost Beetles in the wood frame (they make a tapping sound as they slowing eat through the wood), and the murders were done by a homeless guy who was caught by the family. He milked the cow to get food and stop the cow from making noise. When other people came by, he left.

[@ku8721]

My theory is it was a fugitive or someone on the run looking for a warm place to hide. They staked out the house from the outside, waited until he knew the family's patterns enough to sneak in, got too bold, careless or just unlucky and got caught in the barn, murdered the person who first found them, then waited for the next family member to come out and see "What is taking Pa so long in the barn" The murderer then hung around for a few days until the mechanic showing up scared him of being caught and he ran off.

[@Itried20takennames]

Sadly, not finding a body in WW1 was not that rare. Trench warfare was pretty nasty, and people were blown apart, sank into mud after being wounded, bodies were left in the No Man’s land area between trenches and not always retrieved. My own grandfather was in WW1 and told a story that while maneuvering around the lines at night, they would use the smell of dead bodies as part of directions, such as “go straight after the end of the trench and keep going until you smell the recent dead guy, then turn North.”

[@blacktoastisswag8139]

Happy new Year! I wonder how much longer Thoughty2 will be stuck in that room 🤔

[@DocBree13]

This has so much more information than any of the other videos I’ve watched about these murders.

[@albertstadler2639]

Thanks for covering this case! You got some facts wrong but nothing to worry about. This case is very complex and complicated.

[@kathleennorton2228]

Which facts, please?

[@dryb3301]

Which facts?

[@albertstadler2639]

@@kathleennorton2228 For example it's wrong that Schlittenbauer took the key out of his pocket. The barn was connected to the house with a door which was unlocked. He went through the house and unlocked the front door and he stated he found the (former missing) key in the house. That's also a little suspicious but quite a difference. Or the statement that the police work was bad. Yeah maybe you can say it was bad but only in hindsight of 2024. The police did their standard routine for 1922 and spent a lot of effort on the case. The fact that they didn't search for fingerprints was answered by thoughty2 himself: Dozens of spectators have walked through the house and barn and touched everything, there was no sense in searching for fingerprints anymore. The impression of poor police work may also arise because there are very few files on the case today. However, this is not because there was no investigation, but because the files were largely destroyed as a result of air raids during WWII. Or story of the maid: She was the only one who later stated that there were mysterious sounds and happenings 6 months prior to the murders. The Gruber family just heard the noises like a week before they got killed. The maid was known to exaggerate and make up stories, so you should at least take her testimonial with a grain of salt. But as mentioned before: The case is the biggest mystery in german crime history for a reason, nothing to worry about when there are some mistakes. Still a great video from thoughty2!

[@Sassymouse88]

Happy New Year Arran! 🎉🎉🎉

[@WhiteHillCZ]

When Arran turns 42 he's going to change the name of the channel to confuse everyone 😂

[@miflockz6267]

interesting if someone was living in the house then i assume at least one resident knew of their existence, the maid who left the job intrigued me as generally people are more likely to take life changing actions(such as quitting a live in job) after an encounter with something seemingly real like a blackmailer or something, also if the maid had heard noises 6 months earlier why didnt the family hear them too. great video!

[@libertycowboy2495]

Dude, where is your stache??? Happy New Year!

[@JenMalyon-im3nu]

You tell absolutely fascinating stories. Thank you.

[@staretimecomics]

Thoughty2, you animate your own videos? I always thought you hired a 3rd party. You're amazing, man. I'm an old fan, a long-time subscriber, but learning you animate these yourself, I'm a new fan all over again. Well done, man!

[@MikeNeder]

same here. i was surprised when he said that

[@Rin-oi8cc]

Thank you for sharing this story. Your animation skills are heckin awesome! I thought you had a team. Hecking impressive!!!

[@theplatitudefromouterspace]

Photo epileptic seizure warning for those sensitive FYI

[@LeatherLaceStudios]

Outstanding Video, as always! Thanks so much for sharing your amazing talents with us T2!

[@jeffelliot8064]

It was the first maid. She fabricated the story about things in the attic (or it was her making the noise). She might have found out something horrible about the family or they were going to do something to her. Soldiers uniforms were a dime a dozen after the war and make a good disguise if youre a widdowed maid who was sent their husbands uniform with their remains. Her only solace in her job was the animals so she took care of them until the bodies were found. She stayed in disguise, comfortable in the house and hid in a secret hiding spot she found while cleaning one day when people arrived. Waited until everyone left and snuck away. It explains the motive, animals being cared for, someone living in the house after they died, one set of footprints and the missing key

[@poindextertunes]

I haven’t even watched the whole video yet but this sounds 100% believable

[@MustyX]

Mmmm... She saw something very horrific and terrifying that no one except her witnessed, and then she fled that same day. She knew about everything that can create alarm, from the dog, to the unnecessary darkness of the house, to the cow and the dirty environment to make people believe the new maid still alive, she took care of everything perfectly just has she has always do. But why would she kill the innocent baby?

[@llywrch7116]

But... has anyone traced the movements of this maid after she fled the farm? As incompetent as the Muenchen police proved to be at the time, any subsequent detective wanting to earn a promotion would take a crack at the case, & tracking down this woman would be one obvious step.

[@MegaSkyline69]

Happy New Year to you, Arran, and to all of the thoughty fans.

[@TheRealStevenBritton]

I think a guy named Arran did it. He seems to know a lot about what happened, and what better alibi than to tell the world about the crime?

[@nhmooytis7058]

😂😂😂

[@ShortEuropeanTwin]

I love your videos!! I might not remember every bit of the things you teach but it's darn right intresting to hear about.

[@kiaswan4306]

They say in a documentary that people from a project that tried to solve the murders, found out who it was but won't say who it was because they don't want to cause problems for the decendence... If that's true, nobody can say

[@Dravianpn02]

They could just get the DNA from the axe, if it's still somehow possible, and cross search the archives.

[@HerSandiness]

It was a class at one of the German police academies a few years ago. They wrote a 188 page report on it.

[@squirlrapterdactyl6963]

Absolutely fascinating as always! ❤️🤘🏼

[@silentgamer666]

Hey, a farmer's work is never done. Murder or not.

[@Mark-mu4pj]

Thanks for all the videos Happy New Year everyone 🎆

[@NDZ-jf8ur]

I first heard about this (Hinterkaifeck) several years ago, I heard about Villisca (on Unsolved No More) about a year ago. Then shortly after I learned about "The Man from the Train". I think it's pretty likely it was all the same guy in the U.S. I think Villisca shows it was not his first time, using the blunt end of the axe, attacking the man first and the overkill to make sure there were no survivors. I think he learned from previous mistakes and had grown comfortable with Villisca. I can't remember all the facts of the cases, I just remember thinking I'm not so sure it's the same killer at Hinterkeifeck or that it's even Mueller. I just think the U.S. murders were the work of a serial killer who murdered near train stations and most likely because he was a traveler. It's almost as if he was a killer who wanted a place to stay for the night for free, or he longed for a home and family and this was some sort of a weird make believe "home" fantasy.

[@kathleennorton2228]

I was thinking that it was a sociopath who wanted a nice place to stay for several days. Strange how he took care of the animals.

[@jessiejeanne9717]

Excellent video, thank you! ❤

[@Spinosaurus44]

In some mysterious way, listening to wintery murder mystery stories always cheers me up against all logic

[@SpectralSound.]

You are a psycho.and thats ok.😊

[@poindextertunes]

its the dopamine hit

[@Spinosaurus44]

@@poindextertunes possibly

[@88Well]

Hey there 42, I absolutely adore the intrigue of mystery and your voice is the perfect vehicle for storytelling. Thank you for your energy 🎉. Your animation is awesome I'm looking forward to the next level 🎉.

[@StarcraftOakley]

Butler in the Library with a Candlestick

[@dianebusby7047]

LOL!

[@mati.benapezo]

More like Madman in the Barn with a Mattock.

[@nettejakobs2501]

Thanks for another awesome story, and Happy Newyear tp you 🎉

[@TubeandJar]

Why would he go through the trouble of hiding the murder weapon but not the bodies?

[@leahamylore]

Maybe they were gonna burn them and didn’t get a chance to

[@suzannef138]

Great video, I have seen a lot of coverage of this but I enjoyed your take on it, maybe enjoyed isn't the right word because it's truly very sad. Great job, thanks

[@GhostofJamesMadison]

Damn everyone using AI thumbnails

[@Icridium]

And all those that complain about them. What’s the difference between using AI generated images and those that do CGI for a living? Or those that paint traditional images?

[@hancocki]

Ok that "bite in the kitchen... yum yum yum" animation was hilarious

[@martin8934]

It is always entertaining to hear english speakers try to pronounce german names ;-) Never mind, but it is Schlittenbauer (he who makes sleds) not Schiltenbauer (whatever that would mean)

[@Flaschenteufel]

I don't think he ever tries it's rather a running gag to me at this point^^

[@catherineberry6971]

You do a remarkable works!! Thank you so very much!😊

[@theoptimisticskeptic]

Ted Cruze's Dad

[@bugsbunny6443]

Happy new year, my friend =) You are doing a great job! Thanks! =)

[@xavierwhite7622]

I love the work you do! I've been watching for years now and I enjoy everything you put out!