Which Transformers Died During The Transformers: The Movie?

[@RodimusPrimal]

Here is a look at what Transformers met their end during the events of the original 1986 Transformers movie! Big thanks to Joe Monzo for being a part of this episode! This video is remastered from an older version that has better information and audio clarity, just in time for Transformers the Movie's 36th Anniversary. Many of you have asked about other characters that were not killed in the Movie of which I did INDIVIDUAL videos on. Be sure to check them out: Inferno Retrospective: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mmPCm3Z8gq17f5I Grapple Retrospective: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hIvbinlua95rj5o Sideswipe Retrospective: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hmSTp6lmds-bsLc Sunstreaker Retrospective: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p6nJaqRuj7Z-ba8 Gears Retrospective: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y2m8hn5tmNhlrbM Huffer Retrospective: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y4WsfmdraL-le9U

[@darkneon5637]

Rip Mirage "now you see him and now don't"😔

[@davidbailey6917]

You still did forget one Autobot who also died in the IDW Comic Adaptation of the film: Beachcomber. His body would be seen next to Windcharger, Smokescreen, and Wheeljack. And Cyclonus' Armada would have a brief scene in a Five Faces of Darkness Episode.

[@RodimusPrimal]

@@davidbailey6917 IDW comic does not count. I made that point later in the video.

[@davidbailey6917]

@@RodimusPrimal Wait. You declared that the IDW comic doesn't count? Where did you make the statement?

[@RodimusPrimal]

@@davidbailey6917 I said that it does not reflect what actually happened in the film. Henceforth it does not count.

[@lynngreen7978]

You forgot one other important casualty: Our innocence.

[@OutOfIdeas9977]

You know who he actually forgot about roller

[@lynngreen7978]

@@OutOfIdeas9977 Maybe Roller survived, carrying the Spark of Optimus, and *that* was the secret the Quintessons used.

[@OutOfIdeas9977]

@@lynngreen7978 maybe who knows

[@Pau_Pau9]

Collectively, that is in the billions.. 😪

[@sccc6758]

I can confirm the 84 and 85 line we're still on shelves in 86. They were hard to find. You could t find the. At the larger chain stores like Kmart and toys r us I got shockwave for Xmas of 86 . Took a long time for me and my mom to find him

[@RealElMaximo]

I saw the movie on opening weekend in 1986. While Optimus Prime's death was sad, the most traumatic for me was Prowl, considering how dramatic and explicit they made his death scene.

[@shootingreal5945]

I am with you on that one..it was just brutal imo.

[@INFERNO95]

Prowl death give us all nightmares.

[@Lawfair]

THANK YOU! I have been hesitant to show the movie to my Transformer's loving niece and nephew because of the violent deaths on the Autobot shuttle, but everyone thinks it's because I am still sad that Optimus Prime died.

[@annihilator5494]

​@@Lawfair Lol you must've been raised different. I was playing games like mortal Kombat when I was 7.

[@Lawfair]

@@annihilator5494 we went to see Transformers the Movie for my eighth birthday, which tells me I am a good deal older than you. When that movie came out there weren't graphically violent video games yet, at least not on consoles. Mortal Kombat first came out 6 years after the Transformers movie, so it was a different time, but yes I was raised different then you. My mother always pre-screened everything I had for entertainment before I was allowed to access it, at least she did after Tranzor Z first aired locally. To be honest I still do the same with my kids.

[@DCMarvelMultiverse]

The most romantic scene in TF has always been Megatron pleading, "Don't leave me, Soundwave!" Gets me everytime.

[@bigstone75]

As you command Megatron

[@_PrimetimePranks]

And Rumble carrying his shoulder cannon.

[@MarvelMTs]

Soundwave; loyal to the end…or change to Galvatron

[@ishashifar]

Huh that kind of explains why galvatron seemed to care a bit about soundwave he remembers soundwaves loyalty to megatron

[@americanosbadassius9292]

Soundwave was always the most loyal Decepticon to Megatron. I think his G1 bio even mentions something to that effect.

[@nagilumsnangilima]

And the last victim of the Cybertronian war was... Orson Welles, who died roughly a month after performing his final lines as Unicron. RIP💔

[@BrianSapp-z6p]

That would actually be Scatman Cruthers who did the voice of Jazz

[@TRELLT77]

Wait.....Orson was Unicron

[@nagilumsnangilima]

@@TRELLT77 Yes.

[@gr8hax]

Good voice actors hard to come by. Especially when every character dies. Then reformatted. Megatron to Galvitron - Movie version

[@chrisstory563]

@@gr8hax movie version of Galvatron was voice by Mr. Spock himself. The late Lenard Nimoy

[@scif121]

I speculated that the reason Brawn goes down from that one shot is due to Megatron's fire power being either stronger or more concentrated when he is in his alternate mode. Otherwise why would he ever transform and give up his autonomy? It's ironic that despite losing the need to be wielded by another as Galvatron he is still the weapon of another for the duration of the film.

[@MidKnightblue0013]

Yup, I would also say that fire power was probably variable depending on how much energon a Transform is charged with, Megatron was probably fully charged that day.

[@danielbalderrama4137]

There was actually a stated reason for this and one that is hinted in the movies. Autobots and decepticons had minor shields which explains why none of them had died during the series before the movie. However there was a lack of energon for the autobots during these times which lowered their shields allowing for decepticons to kill autobots since they still had a direct space bridge bringing in constant energon while the autobots relied on the city producing energon and transporting them by ships taking a longer route to avoid decepticons. However i could be wrong because this was a theory i heard a long time ago.

[@MidKnightblue0013]

@@danielbalderrama4137 and if shields factor in, it might take time for them to power up, meaning if they were attacked by surprise the shields might not be fully up.

[@scif121]

@@danielbalderrama4137 I like this theory. Except that the space bridge uses tons of energon and I had assumed that by this point in time the decepticons had more or less been driven off earth giving the autobots time to setup their city to produce their own energon. But maybe I'm overthinking it, your theory fits. Another idea, which goes along with what I've read about the reason Prowl's died is that their attack was so unexpected and logic defying that they couldn't react appropriately.

[@joeerickson516]

"So devastating!" 😢

[@Animeaddiction]

Sometimes the simplest answer is the best. Since the Decepticons wanted to use the shuttle as a way to raid Autobot City, they had to make certain all the Autobots on board were dead. So even if Brawn had survived that shot to the shoulder, it was likely he was killed later on if the Decepticons found him still functional.

[@vadernation1233]

That’s a good point. Brawn could’ve had a similar case to ironhide but we saw what Megatron did to him when he realized ironhide was still alive.

[@MrKeech666]

I first saw Transformers The Movie in the theatre back in the day. It was my friend's birthday party, but there was nothing to celebrate. They killed Optimus Prime, and it scared me to this day.

[@thehoopsobserver9078]

Good coverage. You’re right about those autobots on Moon Base 1 & 2, most likely they bit the dust if they weren’t Bumblebee, Spike, Jazz and Cliffjumper. See everyone, Cliffjumper doesn’t always die lol

[@YeoYeo32]

The problem is we’re never told exactly how many autobots were still at either Moonbase. The film kinda implies Spike and Bumblebee were the only ones stationed on Moonbase 2. I noticed this video glossed over the two Hounds issue, but acknowledged the two Sunstreakers issue

[@bilal_Hadjlaoui907]

this movie holds a soft spot in my heart,its even better than the entire wfc triolgy and all the bayverse movies,make it even better,we sadly lost a lot of our fan favourite characters,but we got a unique character arc for rodimus

[@lavon65beamon]

I went to the movies to see it too my pop's took TIL this day wen I see it I get teary eyed watching it

[@keithmouton566]

I agree the G1 cartoon to me is the best! I can’t lie I’ll watch the Michael bay transformers or the Bumblebee movie because the simple fact it’s Transformers. And here is a simple question, why don’t they make it more like the cartoon? I think there is a bunch of reasons the movies are not as good, 1 - They make the actual transformers more complicated than they need to be. 2 - they focus to much on the human characters. 3 - they need more Robots. 😂

[@bilal_Hadjlaoui907]

@@keithmouton566 even tho bayverse did give us some great characters,like barricade and blackout and drift

[@OutOfIdeas9977]

I really like WFC trilogy maybe better but whatever

[@daijohnthomas8495]

I hate the bayverse version of hotrod nowt to do with anything like the original movie hopefully they bring him into the new transformers movie and please for christ sake stop shoving so many humans in it i watch transformers to see alien robots not bloody humans most usually yank army saving the bloody day piss off

[@Animeaddiction]

I think a much more gentler way they could have made this movie was to have the sparks of those who had fallen implanted into new or spare bodies, such as Brawn to Outback, Huffer to Pipes, Gears to Swerve and so forth. If they're able to reformat Megatron to Galvatron and later on Bumblebee to Goldbug, then why not the others?

[@drewlovelyhell4892]

That makes sense, but Hasbro wanted whole new characters with new personalities, to make kids want to buy them when they're bored of the old characters. Of course, that turns out to have not been necessary, since they're still reusing those same old characters to this day!

[@GangsterofloveSpacecowboy]

Starscreams brigade

[@nightshadebrown7593]

I agree my friend.

[@cooljim1376]

I disagree. Transformers is a war story, there are casualties in war. This film was peak Transformers and nothing has been able to equal or surpass it since.

[@Mr.Motion5224]

@@cooljim1376yes it was based on war but it was also intended for 7 year olds

[@javiersantanaaviles5885]

6:05 Let´s consider that the Decepticons had control of Cybertron for a couple of years, and during that time they could have the time to upgrade their weapons, specially Megatron

[@RppRussell]

It's amazing how for all the controversy regarding Prime's death over the years, I'm surprised how no one ever realized that Optimus Prime didn't die alone. When he died, Didn't Roller and the robot combat deck from his trailer dies with him too? (After all, they're an extension of Optimus Prime himself.)

[@RodimusPrimal]

Indeed they did since they were probably in his Subspace Storage Pocket.

[@PhantomDragonEternal]

All of Prime's components would have died. Those parts are all Optimus by extension.

[@GatorRay]

I'm shocked they didn't kill Skyfire.

[@RppRussell]

@@GatorRay Apparently, you didn't see the Japanese Transformer original video animation episode called, "Scramble City". He is plainly. seen in the background in one shot/scene, which pretty much implied that he has survived after the movie. (Ironically enough, that episode was his final "official" appearance in the G! cartoon continuity. So, his actual final fate is unknown.)

[@MykeLewisMusic]

Never thought of that. Good point.

[@fbomb7184]

Ha! Robert Stack was the actual host for the 80’s show AND the voice of Ultra Magnus. Well played!

[@Spaz_Frag]

I'm glad to see something about Mirage was brought up, I was wondering why he had just dropped out of Transformers altogether all this time.

[@davidbailey6917]

Same thing happened to other Autobots like Huffer, Beachcomber, and Trailbreaker!

[@anthonysiguido1116]

0:40 - 0:58 oh wow. Thats my stop mp work! Its great to see my stuff is still out there. Thanks Rodimus Primal!

[@RodimusPrimal]

Great job on that! It was perfect for the opening skit!

[@SummerlinRealtor]

First off, this is your best video by far! Second, the unsolved mysteries opening is a tie in to Robert stack playing ultra magnus-nice touch or better yet you got the touch! Third, I learned a lot tonight on the 36th anniversary of the best movie ever made! The opening to this video is awesome! Thanks for the info and great entertainment! Til all are won!

[@frankg2790]

As tragic as Optimus Prime's death was, it wasn't as bad as killin' off Starscream. He's the toy that every kid had in the Eighties.

[@carrsllccarrillo6507]

Mmm, wish i did. I was gifted Dirge instead 😏

[@kyledamron]

I agree he's still my favorite

[@maevethefox5912]

I lost the wings of mine as a kid but I still have the body kicking around 30 years later

[@Tsujanryo]

Mmm not me. Never once saw him. Not a single friend had him, not in an acquaintance's collection, not in a school show 'n tell, not on store shelves. (And there were many I never saw even in stores) It wasn't 'til the 90's that I actually saw a Starscream in toy form & it was ...odd, not seeing a blue or black jet.

[@christianfrost8660]

Let's be real, his character carried the whole first two seasons.

[@matthewreynoso6904]

Despite all the problems this movie had, us Transformers fans can agree that it’s a classic!

[@MrDwightsimon]

This movie has no problems at all. It is the perfect movie with the perfect soundtrack

[@mattp2557]

@@MrDwightsimon only problem I got is they killed ironhide if prime stayed dead he'd be my only other problem but he comes back twice once we're some humans make him into some weapon programmed to kill autobots and then again in the hate virus arc, I get characters had to die but ironhide really that sucked

[@silverbolt9439]

Yeah it does prime monologuing when he has never done this and out of character, he could've taken the shot killing megs, also his weird shift in character\personality he went from a father figure to a stoic commander which keeps going when he returns. Like some dude said in the past said "no movie is without sin". 😂

[@MrDwightsimon]

@@mattp2557 I also was shocked by all the death. But that's what made the movie so good! You were forced to invest all your emotions into the movie. To this day, I still feel the pain

[@darkneon5637]

Truly the best transformer they ever made

[@TurboSax]

Transformers '86 is my favorite movie of all time. I wasn't allowed to watch Star Wars as a kid (long story) so this took it's place. It captured my imagination like nothing else had as a child. It has problems, most movies do, but I think it still holds up today. I'm sure I'm in the minority but I actually think the deaths in the movie added a lot to it. When main characters like Ironhide and Prowl died, it made me think no one was safe. Those deaths made the Prime\Megatron fight feel like a lot was at stake. I remember little eight year me watching the fight very intensely. Of course Prime's death was such a shock. It made me realize that movies had a lot of power, to make you feel all sorts of emotions. It's a pretty important movie to me. I'm just an oldhead rambling at this point haha. Anyway, great video, as always!

[@mattp2557]

Ironhides death hurt he's my favourite he's the old Soldier and big brother of the autobots

[@dsdsdfsdsdffsd4963]

@@mattp2557 i loved ironhide too :(

[@carterjames8829]

Brawn, Prowl, Ratchet, and Ironhide died on the ship that was ambushed by the Decepticons. Wheeljack and Windcharger died at the base, and then Megatron shot Optimus to death. Galvatron killed Ultra Magnus, but he was resurrected by the Junkions. As for the Decepticons, Megatron, Kickback, Shrapnel, Bombshell, Thundercracker, and Skywarp were all thrown out of Astrotrain and were reborn by Unicron (who died in the final battle). Some other deaths included Galvatron destroying Starscream, all the Coneheads (Ramjet, Dirge and Thrust) were chomped on by Unicron, and then Rodimus threw Galvatron out of Unicron, even though he somehow still survived. Bumblebee, Cliffjumper, Spike and Jazz were almost dropped into a vat of acid, but thankfully Daniel saved them. It's insane how many characters died or came close to death.

[@LeeONardo]

I like to simply say Snarl was there (since he was in some shots) fighting alongside the other Dinobots in my minds eye, so in other words even though he wasn't physically on screen attacking Devastator officially he was. I like to say Smokescreen lived simply because he has always been a fave of mine :P Your explanation for Brawn makes total sense, I mean Megatron in gun mode is always him working at 100% power (in my head canon) and he could have scored a 9999 crit lol. As a kid I remember finding Prowl's death to be the one that freaked me out, mainly due to it being right up in your face with him essentially burning completely out from within. I really wish Hasbro would commission a "rebuilt" animated version of the film utilising the unused storyboards, fixing the errors and getting as many of the original VA's they can to do it for the anniversary.

[@thelatman9397]

Aas a child watching this in the cinema, I never got over the shuttle slaughter. I was still in shock when I saw wheeljack & windcharger, thinking it cant get any worse, then Prime quickly followed by Starscream......yeah....that film (as much as I loved it) scarred me - my first real exposure to death!

[@gairethnelson]

Happy 36 anniversary to 'The Transformers: The Movie' 🥳

[@isaiahgray3057]

I will never accept that a single shot from Scavenger's pea shooter would take down Prowl.

[@gr1m333x2]

ik its rlly late to be getting a reply to this, but apparently where that blast hit, it hit some core that set off a chain of explosions in Prowl’s body, basically burning him from the inside out

[@Mr.Motion5224]

@@gr1m333x2yeah that’s hasbros lame excuse for killing off all the autobots and traumatizing a bunch of kids

[@freakbot26]

I saw The Transformers: The Movie when it came out in 1986. I was 14 at the time! It shocked the hell out of me that my favorite characters were being slaughtered like cattle especially Optimus! It's still one of my favorite movies of all time. I own the 20th, 25th, 30th, and 35th anniversary editions on DVD and Blu-ray!

[@americanosbadassius9292]

Are all the anniversary versions of the movie the same, with any differences in the product only being in the special features they put with it?

[@freakbot26]

@@americanosbadassius9292 Every anniversay edition has something new one it. The latest one is in 4K UHD.

[@jackmozenrath135]

Something I’ve always wondered is who deserves credit for those shuttle kills: Starscream and his marksmanship or Megatron and his firepower?

[@RodimusPrimal]

Good question. Both?

[@jackmozenrath135]

@@RodimusPrimal Ratchet and Brawn are at least said to have been killed by Starscream on their Transformers Wiki pages. Maybe you could make a short video on this.

[@whirl3690]

If a swordsman kills an opponent, is it the swordsman or the sword who took their life?

[@arcturionblade1077]

@@whirl3690 Maybe if the sword is by itself sentient and has its own autonomy?

[@whirl3690]

@@arcturionblade1077 No. Unless the sword somehow takes over the mind of its wielder, then the kill is credited to the wielder, since it is the wielder's actions that killed, not the sword's.

[@Huff-N-Stuff]

Saw it in the theater. I was 10. Holds a special place in my heart as well! I remember when it came out on VHS my friend and I rode our bikes to the video store every weekend over summer break and rented it. Then would reenact scenes. Still watch it now with my kids.

[@RodimusPrimal]

I quote the movie constantly and enjoy it with my kids too.

[@Coretalless]

One factor often overlooked in the Movie is that the Decepticons were at Full power while the Autobots were not. During the time on Earth, Brawn was likely at his peak while on the Shuttle to earth he was not.

[@diegos7337]

God... I missed this kind of retrospective! Ultra Magnus (Robert Stack) as the Unsolved Mysteries host! That was awesome! This video was just AMAZING!

[@mercer1st]

I saw the 1986 Transformers film in theater when it was first released. I was just a kid, but to me it was amazing. I was thrown off by all the deaths... Ive probably seen this film over 100 times over the years and watch it at least a few times each year.

[@ultra_marcus]

Thank heavens for all those generic Decepticons, In my mind Shockwave survived. Thanks for this remastered video Rodimus, I can tell a lot of love went into this update.

[@TheBubbaclaw]

I saw the movie in the theater the saturday it came out. There wasn't a dry eye in the house when Prime died and my brothers and I were bawling like idiots.

[@AE-jo2fy]

Very thurough video. It's good to have a comprehensive lore resource like this!

[@frankieharvey4237]

I didn't see the movie until it came out on VHS, and man, I bet I watched it 100 times when we rented it. When Starscream got blasted is when the reality of the amount death in the movie set in. In all its flaws, it's still one of the greatest animated movies to date.

[@giovannimorelli4592]

I first watched The Transformers: The Movie in 2007/2008 (i was 5 years old) and i always really liked it, especally the opening with the Decepticon assault of Autobotcity and Unicron introduction, then last year i watched the original series and I really liked it. Thanks to you, Rodimus Primal, i started having a passion for Transformers and started watching every Transformers series, since the other only Transformers media i watched were the first the first three Bay's Transformers movie.

[@Ultra04channel]

When my father first sat me down to watch this movie, it was while Transformers: Animated was still airing. It was towards the later seasons, I think. I was quite young. So immediately, Unicron traumatized me and gave me nightmares that night, I was horrified by the massacre on the shuttle, as well as the corpses that Arcee looks at, got a little bit sad at "Don't leave me, Soundwave", cried because Optimus Prime died, but still didn't back out. Then Starscream got turned to dust, and that was it. I marched over, pressed the power button on that DVD player, then cried into a pillow about all of that stuff for like an hour, and couldn't sleep for about three nights after that. I still can't believe that it was *Starscream* that managed to send me to the point of just stopping the movie, and not Optimus, or even Prowl. Maybe even the intro. Then again, Starscream has always been my favorite character.

[@iamtheomnimonkey]

Well done sir. Very comprehensive. I first saw The Trsnsformers The Movie when it originally hit theaters.

[@jjinc1957]

Great video! A 7 year old me was sitting in the theater to watch this on release week and I never got past Ratchet and Prowl dying before I assumed every hero of the cartoons was going to be gone. Heck, I figured there wouldn’t be new cartoons and in a way, they never were really right after that.

[@billybadass3056]

honestly speaking about this film.... I feel it sucks how they treated the fan favorites of the series to just end them the way they did in like the first 10 mins of the film I felt is the most offensive part of the movie and entire lore of the show.. like they basically cleaned house of the old guard before the story even started, not a dignified ending those characters deserved to have....

[@nohbuddy1]

Because the whole point of the show was to sell toys

[@nostalgicwiz3977]

THIS IS GOOD!!!! Unfortunately about the Autobots deaths, but the beginning is funny and cool with the tie-in to Unsolved Mysteries bit with Robert Stack as Ultra Magnus. The movie still holds a special place in my heart and I still get misti eyed about Optimus Prime's death. Great video once again, til all are one!!

[@luisgonzalez-ii3gc]

"Its good to have you back Prime." - Megatron (Armada)

[@NickMichalak]

My dad took me to see the movie in the theatre in 1986 at the age of six. Loved it from first viewing, and I rented the VHS tape so many times I thought that the store should've just given it to me. I think you covered everything here. The animation errors certainly make keeping sense of whose killed and who survivors very difficult.

[@FlashStudios1934]

My headcannon for why characters were killed by stuff that wouldn’t normally kill them is because it’s set 20 years in the future, so everyone’s a lot older and weaker now

[@jakern777]

Thank you for doing this! I was a bit traumatized at age 10 seeing this film on it’s opening night in theaters!

[@sentairidertf2179]

My way of seeing this is that the autobots died easily because the decepticons were at full power and didn't have to limit their weapons power after conquering cybertron. Since both sides might had to conserve their ammo/energy because of cybertron being low on energy. Also Rodimus primal you missed one thing in transformer the movie. After Astrotrain transformed into train mode, if you look closely you can see Thrust carrying an injured Shrapnel or Bombshell. I saw transformers the movie on DVD years ago. From the first DVD release of the movie.

[@shootingreal5945]

Agreed 👍

[@darkneon5637]

Agreed 👍

[@domingorubies656]

It’s what should have happened since episode 1 really. Depections were Stronger , more military focused , had aerial supremacy. Autobots had plot armor pretty much..until the ‘86 film

[@RChB]

I saw this mythical film at the cinema with my grandfather when it was released, I was ten years old. It's still my favorite movie of all time, and nothing will change that. Good video RP.

[@averagenuggetenjoyer1951]

Hello again rodimus, I hope your doing well and just wanted to say this is a great remaster. It's always been one of my favourite episodes. Keep up the good work.

[@javiersantanaaviles5885]

The death of Optimus Primes was one of the most important moments not only for the movie, but for the franchise and the world of animation in general, without it the movie wouldn´t be as important as it was, and so the rise of Rodimus Prime was so significant, without those moments we wouldn´t have such jewel

[@cosmic_bruhh25kz]

In the episode, "Fight or Flee", Wheeljack and Ironhide were spotted in a small group of Autobots but Wheeljack appears as a cameo and Ironhide appearing in it was a animation error.

[@PlatinumKnight-je3vy]

It was shocking to see so many beloved Autobots die in the movie, Optimus being the most shocking! I would say the Wheeljack and Ironhide were next to it as well.

[@RppRussell]

@ PlatinmumKnight2003: Roller & Artillery combat robot from Prime's trailer: "What are we, Chopped Nuts N' Bolts?!

[@mattp2557]

Ironhide hit hard for me he's my favourite with prime, Magnus, grimlock and springer being my top five favourite autobots, cons would be shockwave, thundercracker, skywarp, cyclonus and soundwave. What would be your top five autobots and cons ?

[@PlatinumKnight-je3vy]

@@mattp2557 if we’re talking about G1 solely then I would say. Tracks Cosmos Jazz Ironhide Cliffjumper Breakdown Dragstrip Megatron Shockwave Blitzwing These aren’t all the ones I love in G1 but a few notable ones, also they aren’t in order of favourite to least favourite.

[@mattp2557]

@@PlatinumKnight-je3vy yeah sorry was talking g1, i always forget about blitzwing for me he was best in g1 same with springer. its like warpath is best in war for cybertron games to me. i really want a new transformers game we probable not going to get the continuation of devastation its sucks because it was great game play and story.

[@theredguy4043]

Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't Wheeljack get brought back. I saw him in one of the Japanese sequels

[@LordMephilis]

I love this movie so much, sometimes when I as m bored I start trying to quote it start to finish. I was a youngin when I saw it for the first of so many times. It is the first experience with the concept of death that I can remember, so much do when a loved one ended up dying I often found myself picturing Optimus taking that first shot to the gut.

[@xivivix7195]

Yo, the Ultra Magnus/Robert Stack/Unsolved Mysteries joke is CLUTCH. Nicely done.

[@ianbrennan9635]

In my research of behind the scenes facts for the movie, I found that a lot of the deaths that did end up in the movie were originally more violent than the final cut: *Brawn was blasted in half as opposed to getting shot through the top of his chest. *We would've gotten a close-up shot of Prowl's fatal chest wound. *Ratchet and Ironhide would've been fused together, then blown apart by blaster fire. In deleted storyboards, they're shot so many times that they literally explode into pieces upon falling to the floor! *Megatron would've lived long enough to return to Cybertron after his fight with Optimus Prime. Then while the Decepticons fight for leadership, a statue gets knocked over onto Megatron and crushes him, causing his spark to be sent floating off into space. *Don Messick recorded a line for Gears to say around the time Devastator appears in the film, suggesting that he might have been killed by him at that point. But this line never makes it into the final film. *In one early script draft, Windcharger and Gears are depicted surviving the Battle of Autobot City, but die when Galvatron returns later to kill Ultra Magnus. The Sweeps initiate a bombing run that obliterates Gears and sends Windcharger flying into the air, where Cyclonus kills the hapless Autobot by flying through him, dismembering him. *Ultra Magnus was drawn and quartered instead of being shot until he falls over and blows up. (This was at least partially animated, since Scourge and the Sweeps initially fire energy ropes before they turn into regular blaster fire in the next shot.)

[@MykeLewisMusic]

They showed the drawn-and-quartered for Ultra Magnus in the Marvel comic adaptation.

[@bfettrules1239]

Megatron succumbing to his wounds only to be reincarnated as Galvatron works a lot better than him surviving and getting crushed by a statue. Other than that, I’m all for a directors cut with the more violent content.

[@ZZtheDark]

I watched it way back in 2002 when I was in my final year of Kindergarten. This was during the advent of TF Armada and I was still watching Beast Wars and Voltron the 3rd Dimension. After the movie ended, the network that was showing the movie back then switched to Tom and Jerry..that 70's version with the episode of the missing bones, missing treasure and Tom and Jerry on the beach. That's what I can recall.

[@DeconvertedMan]

The intro is really well done and funny! :D

[@ranwolf1240]

When Optimus died, I cried. When Ironhide died, I got angry...

[@barbw1974]

Bro I can't believe they named Brawn's repaint off of where he got shot.

[@Animeaddiction]

They gave Outback an Australian accent, but I can see the pun.

[@avenuePad]

I saw the Transformers movie twice on the opening Saturday. I literally came home right after the movie and begged my mom for money so I could see it again. I would have been 10 years old. I absolutely loved the movie. I couldn't believe my eyes. Optimus' death was very shocking, but I kinda liked how they made Rodimus into a deeper character, who had some self doubt.

[@RodimusPrimal]

Same. Had to get the toys and everything.

[@weidogg]

very creative and great Robert Stack voiceover - tie in to Ultra Magnus - I saw what you did there! Well done!

[@camortie]

That was cool using Magnus to host the show since he was voiced in the movie by the actual shows host Robert Stack.

[@ajelliott9923]

Loved ur retrospective view on such a tragic time in transformers history in that far off year 2005. 1st saw this 30 or so years ago on vhs as well as so many deaths what a killer soundtrack

[@Iamacardinalfan]

I was 19 years old when this came out. I was in the Air Force at the time. I and another Airman, we took the married guy's kids in the Helicopter Unit to go see it all together. Everybody was hyped to watch it. But it didn't take long before we had a group full of little kids crying as their favorites were being offed. I was trying my best to console them. Telling them it's going to be alright. THEN, I see the flash of animation that showed Wheeljack's lifeless body. My heart sank, he was my personal favorite. (And still is) By the end of the movie, we all liked it, but I think it jaded everybody to a certain degree.

[@GatorRay]

I'm shocked they didn't show the Dinobots grieving for Wheeljack. They may be dim. But HE WAS THEIR CREATOR!

[@americanosbadassius9292]

@@GatorRay Dinobots don't have an emotion modual, just logic modual. Since the animation can't possibly show every possible moment lived by the Transformers, it should be assumed that the Dinobots gave proper respects to their creator at some point.

[@GatorRay]

@@americanosbadassius9292 Yeah. I feel dumb now.

[@tippycanoe99]

Interesting assessment. Many Transformers weren't present in the movie, which leaves plenty for the imagination to wonder about where they were.

[@RoXolid]

I LOVE the Unsolved Mysteries theming, especially with Robert Stack as the voice of Magnus. Great Job Primal! #TillAllAreOne

[@Prime-Productions]

15:55 idk why but I love that design of the blue deception in the corner please give him a toy hasbro

[@anthonysanchez8630]

Hope everything is going good for you,review was awesome like always thanks

[@LeRodz]

I've seen so many videos covering this topic but i still keep coming back just to see if people found out more Transformers who died/survived

[@rwulf]

I love it when loyal fans go to such creative lengths to find reasonable explanation for continuity errors in G1 instead of just saying “The animators were loaded up on coke and did not give af.”

[@INFERNO95]

Or they were just lazy?

[@PaulDavies4]

0:54 hahah awesome you even put the animation error in. Megatron transforms to gun mode and goes to starscream, yet after the scene where you see Ratchets two guns starscream is not holding Megatron and uses his arm mounted weapon. The the next scene starscream is using megatron two handed again.

[@SuprGaming]

I will always love this movie, the break down is amazing.

[@Leondrius]

I think a great deal of what happened was just continuity errors. For example, there's no way the Autobots would leave Gears on the moonbase to die. He was either on the shuttle or forgotten about by the animators, in my opinion. Also, as many people know, a lot of the wounds received wouldn't have been fatal in the series. In the episode where the Autobots went to Cybertron to get a cosmotron for Optimus Prime, he received as much if not more damage than the movie, but was repaired in a matter of minutes and then beat Megatron in a fight. 😄

[@oneshotcustoms8695]

I saw this movie for a free pre-screening the day before it released. It was amazing and I loved what they did with it. I've watched it several times despite the minor alterations they've made to it.

[@JAC3DG33K]

Awesome work as always. You should do one on what happened the Marissa Faireborn and Old Snake aka Cobra Commander, and why they were absent during GI Joe Extreme.

[@lasarith2]

I always assumed that given the Decepticons had taken over cybertron , they had access to more Energon therefore when Megatron shot Brawn it’s was more powerful then the tv series (in that they were always running at 50% - always looking for Energon and constantly lost to the Autobots)

[@Grillenheimer]

They had taken over their home planet Cybertron...so yeah the Decepticons were up and more fully functional than Data in an early episode of TNG. Maybe the Autobots trying to use hydro on Earth wasn't working for them??

[@mattp2557]

Plus as someone pointed out in weapon form his power might be more concentrated otherwise what's the point of transforming because you lose autonomy

[@LeeONardo]

@@mattp2557 I always saw it that way. Megatron's gun is powerful but it's the scope of the gun, when he transforms he is the whole gun. He can put EVERYTHING into the shot. Same goes for Shockwave .

[@karlwschipul5079]

did they actually have more access to energon by 2005? They had originally left Cybertron in the first episode because of the lack of energon or equivalents there. Did Cybertron between those 2 times get more energon?

[@sentairidertf2179]

That how I see it too. Once the decepticons have conquered Cybertron they had all the energy/energon they needed and no longer had to limit their weapons' power levels. So their weapons were at full power when they attack the autobots in the movie. The weapons of both the autobots and decepticons must have been at a low, yet harmful power level during the TV show for energy conservation.

[@RoninCatholic]

I first saw Transformers: The Movie as a very small child, watching it on VHS. In fact, it was my introduction to Transformers and set my tonal expectations going forward into the franchise. I did see some reruns of the original series afterward, but it was almost time for Beast Wars to begin at this point.

[@MechaMaster_0083]

i watched when i was like 9. optimus prime's death hits the hardest for me. and the fact they killed off wheeljack was also tough to take in

[@imarannufatih2289]

"He's probably holding the camera" Me: I know he's gonna be unstoppable cuz the cameraman never dies

[@RavinRay]

14:42 "So Snarl was there, probably holding the camera." 🤣 This literally made me LOL. Oh, and here in the Philippines I don't recall it being released in theaters, or else we didn't get to watch it on the big screen, as I watched it instead on TV.

[@kyledamron]

Might as well have killed Cliffjumper since Casey Cassum quit (justified though). I wish Scatman hadn't died after making the movie I love jazz he'd be a great addition to season 3

[@MarkDemeo]

When I was younger I didn't realize about the voice actors for Cliffjumper and Jazz. I know season three wanted to push the new lineup as much as possible, but I definitely would have been nice to see more of the 84 characters get some action. Hell even Bumblebee didn't get much time.

[@kyledamron]

@Mark Demeo I agree. I kinda wish ironhide liver but his death was pretty epic

[@davidbailey6917]

According to the Transformers Wiki, Cliffjumper and Bluestreak both didn't die at all. They were stationed on Cybertron and/or Earth in Season 3 and in Athenia in the Headmasters.

[@loutzenheiser6081]

Fantastic video. I knew most of the deaths, but learned of some too. Well done!

[@godofwine77]

Having Robert Stack AKA Ultra Magnus doing Unsolved Mysteries was pretty damn cool

[@TomE.V.]

Great video as always Rodimus 👍. I never get tired of this movie and all the great theories surrounding it.

[@TheYoungDoctor]

I first saw it in the cinema when it came out in the UK in December 1986 2 weeks after my 11th birthday. Of course I had read Target: 2006 before then so I knew some of the events of the movie before I even saw it.

[@251TheMechanizedSingfantry]

I was the only boy in my class who didn't see it at the cinema...so I made up for this by buying it on VHS and watching it many many times...years later I bought the OST on CD as my first ever internet purchase (circa 1998).

[@TransformersCollector]

That intro was excellent Rodimus!!!!

[@mdolinski4926]

Ok. As soon as I remembered the Ultra Magnus/Robert Stack connection I declared this video a winner!

[@colosussofbaine]

Robert Stack is smiling down from heaven.

[@novelknowledge]

6:52 is animation error, both Hound and Sunstreaker are present when Optimus leaves the shuttle.

[@Sitharos]

Love that you used the original Unsolved Mysteries music 😃

[@good7bad13]

This film was my introduction to the franchise. I didn't know who this red and blue semi was but I was broken when he died. From then on I was hooked

[@michaelclickard6264]

You forgot that in one of the earlier scripts, Trailbreaker and Mirage survive the battle, but you are on point with Red alert dying. Still, Gears died in two versions of the script, one version of the script had him crushed by Devastator in one of the turrets, another had him blown up by the Sweeps. I always wondered what happened to Bluestreak after the battle of Autobot city, he may have been a casualty offscreen.

[@RodimusPrimal]

I didn't forget the earlier scripts but I mentioned things in some of the individual videos on some of those characters.

[@davidbailey6917]

Bluestreak wasn't listed as a casualty. Mirage and Trailbreaker actually died in the storyboard. Mirage was killed by Megatron after he sniped a Bombshell clone out of the air. Trailbreaker's body would be laying in sight as the Decepticons. And Gears was killed by Devastator.

[@michaelclickard6264]

@@davidbailey6917 You're a year late on this, but you're right, I assume that Hound also survived and probably stayed on earth to help the others rebuild Autobot City, Sideswipe and Sunstreaker were stated to have survived thanks to Botcon stories and such. Still, I feel as though the final version should have Wheeljack stay alive, and have Smokescreen take his place as it was intended in the finalized script, but alas, changes were late in production. Besides, the whole movie was incomplete when it was finished.

[@davidbailey6917]

@@michaelclickard6264 You are right about Hound, Sideswipe, and Sunstreaker. They did survive and they would reappear in the Headmasters cartoon. Same with Inferno and Tracks!

[@michaelclickard6264]

@@davidbailey6917 Along with Grapple, but Hoist was nowhere to be seen, neither in the movie or the Rodimus Vs Cyclonus comic. You can definitely tell that Hasbro didn't care about who lived and who died at the time.

[@JimmyRaptis]

I love how this is a send-up of unsolved mysteries with Robert Stack who was the voice of Ultra Magnus in the movie.

[@WickedFireBird69]

If you understand why using Ultra Magnus as the host is hilarious and amazing we can be friends...because we are probably of the same age group!

[@ExploreandExperience1]

I experienced this movie for the first time when it initially premiered in theaters back in 1986. Words cannot express how deeply unsettling it was for my young, 9-year-old mind. The deaths of Prowl and Prime, in particular, left a profound and lasting impact on me. I carried the haunting memories with me for many years until I finally had the ability to revisit the film in my mid 20s.

[@owood5243]

Took a few seconds to realize Ultra Magnus doing unsolved mysteries just like he did in real life.

[@Syxxth]

Finally someone told me who the bots were that melted in Unicron!!! Thank you, kind sir.

[@DupageDragonsFan94]

Transformers the Movie is one of my favorite movies of all time. I saw it the weekend it premiered in August 1986. I was a little shocked by all of the death but more disappointed that Prowl and others would not be brought back by the power of the Matrix, the Junkions, or otherwise. I love The Transformers cartoon series as well, but man... there was no justice. All of the Autobots that died in the movie died at the hands of Decepticons. None of the Decepticons that died in the movie died at the hands of Autobots. To add insult to injury, Optimus was brought back in Season 3 as a nightmarish zombie and killed off again. To add further insult to injury, the remains of the Autobots who died in the movie crashed into a fiery sun (if hope wasn't already dead...). To add further insult to that injury, some Decepticons (especially Insecticons) came back alive and well in Season 3. And more insult to injury, Brawn and Huffer apparently had returned from the dead and were seen fighting along with the Decepticons in an AKOM animated episode. I understand that the writers faced pressure from the powers that be, but man... did they have to break so many hearts the way that they did? That said, I think once they killed off Optimus, they should have left it alone - Rodimus should have continued to be the leader. Good work, Rodimus, and thank you!

[@rico4376]

Even after decades, I can still feel the salt and bitterness of that era of Transformers fans seeing their favourite characters ether getting killed or shown as a dead corpse on screen

[@swedichboy1000]

12:33 Would be neat to know who those golden statues represent.

[@RodimusPrimal]

That is something I will cover with another character.