The Ups And Downs of Marshall Amps

[@Harry-ts2qo]

I played a fender mustang for years while I saved to buy a Marshall. I had a Marshall plexi pre set on there I genuinely thought might be better than the real Marshall when I got it. I was so nervous the Marshall wouldn’t be as good as my modelling setting. Dawg I plugged in and within 30 seconds realized they were incomparable, I love the Marshall tone so much!!

[@DoctorEnigma01]

Nothing gives you lead tones like a Marshall

[@seanbrooks2583]

@@DoctorEnigma01 Friedman?

[@Indianawhiskeyandbourbon]

​@@seanbrooks2583 good example

[@kurtbader9711]

Ain't nothin' like the real thing.

[@1-eye-willy]

heyy that mustang 2 modeler is pretty good i wish i still had mine

[@DoctorEnigma01]

I’ve played Marshall’s for over 40 years, I still have my original JCM 800, a newer one and I recently bought a DSL 40 for practice, lots of people still use them, but the venues don’t really accommodate a full stack anymore so I use the half stack. **edit, I was speaking of the USA, kids in the UK still listen to rock, hard and LOUD, I haven’t played there in a few years but I would be bringing both full stacks when I do, america has gotten soft, they listen to DJs

[@robertprady885]

Totally correct. Marshall rules and it's a shame that rock is dead in the US

[@brucehayes7251]

Australia sadly also. You can upset many people with even turning up with 2 small amps

[@Rataja77]

​@@brucehayes7251 mate if we don't turn up to a gig with a Kemper most venues in Victoria sook

[@brucehayes7251]

@@Rataja77 it's getting a bit sad isn't it. I had a woman comment at a gig that we(the band) had SO MUCH gear, that is each had an amplifier,guitar,bass etc. Used to solo/ duo acoustic with tiny pa I guess. And we're only talking little combo amps. It's an us and them situation. So much cheap gear and nowhere to use it as intended

[@Scott__C]

@@brucehayes7251 The funny thing is you see these KZbinrs with like 50 amps behind them but they live on shelves and never go to a gig. Not all, but many.

[@NoLegalPlunder]

Their fairly recent sv20h and mini jubilee are incredibly awesome.

[@rushrulz65]

The Marshall DSL-40CR with the dual master volumes has blown me away. I can fill the warehouse and I can play in my bedroom. It sounds great throughout the volume range. It just took Marshall tool long to get here.

[@michaelnedoshytko6920]

I've never cared for Marshall until lately, which is ironic. Always been a Fender and Mesa guy. Recently I picked up a DSL 20H. It's honestly an unreal amp with full sized tubes at 20 watts. But after playing a lot of vintage Fender amps and Mesa, I really like the versatility of the Boss Katana; it's incredibly versatile too. Play what works for you ✔️

[@brucehayes7251]

I too adopted a happier feeling for Marshall after purchasing a little dsl15 head. I only play at relatively low volume but one day it will be included in my live gear setup just to see.....

[@Scott__C]

That's the real ticket here. So many want to say someone else is wrong or their opinion isn't good if they don't care about tube amps. Play whatever you like, even if it's a DS-1 right into your DAW.

[@Big_Dumb_Animal]

The best part of every Casino video is usually after Baxter says "We're done at this point..." then carries on for another five minutes. Love that

[@tomokra]

I like when he says some variation of "...and yeah ... but no ... and, uh ,yeah."

[@dominicfossati1087]

I played my Valvestate half stack from 1997 until a few years ago when I got a Marshall Origin 50 head. I put some Greenbacks in my old 4x12 and it freakin rules! I love Marshall!

[@coopr168]

I recently purchased my first tube amp and I couldn’t be more excited! 1987x 50W

[@grahamfieldhouse5130]

Baxter and Jonathan! I live in Milton Keynes the home of Marshall. I have played their amps for over 30 years being a bass player and a guitar player. You cannot say nobody uses them anymore 🙄 That aside, this is the first time I have commented on your videos so I should say having been watching for a while now they are my favourite videos 😊

[@Scott__C]

People who use Marshalls generally don't have 50 pedals, but the Fender guys seem to have to have all that.

[@wilbury-hb3gp]

Marshalls do one thing. They do that one thing really well--arguably better than anyone else. But most musicians in 2023 A) can't crank a Marshall to make it do the one thing it's good at, and B) play in cover bands that require more features than a Marshall can provide (you know, like reverb, which comes standard on just about every other amp except a $3500 Marshall head).

[@hemen-dex]

I have 1979 Marshall club & country 212 combo with spring reverb and master volume. It is amazing😊

[@bdogjr7779]

Awesome Guys🎸《☆》Ted Nugents Formula was Gibson Birdland thru a WALL of FENDER AMPS👍🏾😁🤳I think I remember him jumping off the top of the Cabs during a show on his Cat Scratch Fever tour in "77"✌😎☮

[@johnbogle6475]

As an audio guy who's done thousands of shows, I don't believe Marshall is dead. It is however losing market share due to the reasons you came up with. As an old sound guy, I can tell you there was a time when in any given venue the amps had to fill the room (P.A. systems just weren't up to the job yet). Hence big, stupid loud amps like Marshall and Ampeg. As PA's became better and hearing loss became more public knowledge, amps started to shrink. Up until I retired (2019) there ere still many groups who requested a Marshall Stack. These were however older "British invasion" era groups. Most of the newer players don't want to go deaf (there are always exceptions ;). That said, I love the sound of overdriven tubes. There was a felleo (Dick Dale I believe) who took two Fender twins, put them on 11 and got some of the coolest richest harmonics I remember hearing. The most extreme examples of this aren't easily re-created using solid state or digital modeling so..... get a big amp and put it in another room :). Love your easy going vibe. Cheers

[@DoctorEnigma01]

I can attest to the hearing loss LOL, I’m not good at it but I’ve learned to read lips

[@Scott__C]

Yeah, for people who say they don't care, you will when you can't understand someone. Saw my dad go through it from working on loud cars and diesels when no one wore ear protection.

[@ChrisDeVido]

Hey you guys, I’ve been a Marshall Dealer for two different decades (2001-2008) Marshall’s we’re selling pretty well. Selling them now since 2015-present “Not so much” however there are some standouts in their line up. The Made in England Studio Silver Jubilee 20watt Head is that perfect Marshall sound, after all these years I finally bought a Marshall and it was the 20watt studio slash configuration of the JCM800 in a lower output version goes well with my 1960 cab

[@lordgraga]

Those 20 watters are still made in the far east, unfortunately.

[@lordgraga]

Check the recent Headfirst mod on the SV20H

[@RoanHayden]

@@lordgraga Studio series are made in the UK. DSLs Vietnam.

[@lordgraga]

@@RoanHayden watch the Headfirst video

[@ChrisDeVido]

@@lordgraga made in England

[@haydenchance8045]

Had to mention, Love my origin 20! Great Marshall sound and affordable. I think Marshall did a great thing with that run of amps.

[@motorrebell]

Indeed ! The Origin 20 combo finally brought me Back to Marshall amps too after experimenting with many other Brands for 10 Years ! LOVE IT !!

[@NoCoverCharge]

I play my 1985 jcm800 59 watt non master volume at all my gigs !! And just recorded with it .. will never give it up

[@charlesbrown-ik2yu]

In 1969, when I was 19, I was the very proud owner of a Marshall "Major" (200 watt) Full Stack! LOVED IT!!! But, even back then, there were precious few places to "unleash the beast", to it's full and glorious potential. (I ended up using my Fender Twin Reverb, more often than not.) Sold the Marshall, a few years later, when I stopped playing altogether (for what turned out to be 30 years). Kicking myself, ever since! But, there are (nowadays) too many OTHER "Marshall like" amps (often for less money)! Plus, the BEST Marshall (IMHO), the "Plexi's", fell out of favor, for the more "high gain" Marshalls. And, as you said, the Marshalls now, especially the HW Plexi reissues, are STUPID expensive! I LOVE the Plexi tone, period! But, personally, I cannot justify their expense, for the few times I play out, and the size of the venues doesn't even allow for that! 15-30 watts is ALL that is needed, for what I do, these days! I LOVE, and have always loved Fender amps, as well.

[@anthonypanneton923]

In 1970 I bought a brand new Marshall Super Lead 100 head. I had two of the big (CBS) Fender Bandmaster/Bassman cabinets - one 2x12, the other 2x15. both loaded with Altec-Lansing speakers. either cabinet by itself could handle 100W. That rig was SO LOUD, and with my '67/'68-ish SG Special it was EXACTLY the sound I wanted. But I really could never turn it up beyond about 3. I ended up selling the head to a friend who first got a slant-front 4x12 Marshall cab, and eventually got a matching straight front cab to make the full stack. A few years later he and I were in band together (I played bass in that band). He always wanted to use the full stack, but almost all of the gigs we did simply couldn't handle more than one cab. During that time I also modded the head for him - adding a master volume control on the back panel in place of one of the four speaker output jacks!. Thank God those days are over! He eventually got tired of hauling it around and in the '90s he got a 2x12 Bluesbreaker combo. And he was playing country music by then!

[@bradc32]

not much of a downsize those twins can scream too .like ya say glorious sound

[@PrestonHazard]

I’m 22 and I exclusively use Marshall amps for my sound for years. So they aren’t dead, most musicians I know are just soft and digital ig. I finally moved up from a combo and just got a JCM2000 head so that will be on everything now lol

[@ezerlab1]

I love using my Les Pauls into Fenders. Mostly Fender Twins.

[@mausershooter100]

Got two Marshalls and play them all the time.

[@rhea690]

I have a 1977 Marshall JMP 50, Non Master volume, known as a 4 holer. That amp is based of off a 59 Bassman circuit. It is a super clean and great funk/Dance music amp. It has been my # 1 on and off since I bought it in 1987.

[@stephenc1754]

From the UK here - in most rehearsal studios you have an old Marshall JCM 800/900 on a cab… never seen a Fender amp in a rehearsal space in London. We grew up with them…

[@Matt-rk3de]

Hot Plate or attenuator is a must when playing a Marshall at home. Can get decent tone for different size rooms. I have a tweed deluxe 1x12 and 50 watt 6x12 wet/dry/stereo setup. Most of the time I just play 1 or the other.

[@johnwashburn3793]

I have a friend from high school who has always been a Marshall guy. I have Fenders and a Vox in my guitar room and I am fine with that.

[@pads-zr9ln]

100w marshall with 4 V30s will always be the dream rig, achievable at such a low cost, they're in the gibson position, stuck making what was popular back in the day

[@mrbungledisco]

I'm a fan of the DSL series, I have the DSL20H and a DSL40 2x12 combo that both sound great. Marshall's have a sound that I tried to chase with modelers for years until I realized that there was nothing like the real thing.

[@rayhogan785]

Years ago I heard a horn group playing all of the latest Disco tunes. The guitar player was amazing and had a great sound. I checked out his equipment. He had a LP going through a Marshall 50 watt amp and a Shure PA monitor (1-10" and 2-8" speakers). Wow! What a sound. His leads were always a little rockfish. Just goes to show that the double stack isn't always necessary. We have big powerful sound systems today. We can get that big Marshall sound out to the audience without a double double stack. The older point to point style wiring gave us many great sounding and reliable amps. Today that style of amp is labor intensive and expensive no matter what the brand. Hope those hand wired amps and sound don't succumb to the solid state computer driven amps.

[@jpalberthoward9]

I hope all the parts don't disappear. Plenty of us still know how to build what we can't buy from a store, but if tubes, transformers and big capacitors become extinct, then it really will be over. It will become an earbuds universe.

[@guitarlusteuphoria4507]

My DSL40 combo is very versatile. The clean channel is awesome and all I use.

[@mattskillman]

Back in my "band days" 20 years ago, I was always a Les Paul + Marshall (JCM 25/50 2555) 4x12 stack player. For me, it was great since I could still get the full sound I wanted, at a lower power. Loved my setup, it was a bitch to load in with, and it was loud as hell at a 500 person venue. We were a classic rock sounding band, and we were loud. We were too loud for some venues, but that's just how we were. There were only 4 times where we were in a big enough or outdoor venue, when I could bust out the full stack. Since being out of our local music scene, a lot of those great "rock" venues are closed, and the venues that do support live music are more geared towards a smaller amp setup. I recently started getting into Fender amps, and picked up a '65 Deluxe Reverb RI. After jamming around on that amp for about a year now, I think smaller amps are MORE than enough for most of the local venues with live music. It's all about the tone, have that mic'ed and it's perfect. Looking back on it, it's not my job to fill the entire venue with my amp, it's my job to be able to be able to hear it on stage. It's the sound engineer's job to do the rest. At least I still have all of my Marshall gear, I'll never get rid of it.

[@scottkidwellmusic9175]

A long-time friend named Marshall has played primarily Marshalls for over 35 years... I've helped him load his ½-stacks in and out of a few venues in the early days...

[@ShimiHalperin]

Modelers woke me up to marshalls. The Fractal version of the bluesbreaker and SLP are awesome, and you can play them at headphone volumes.

[@shawnglass108]

Marshall makes my favorite amps. My main amp is a 1962HW with a Fryette power Station for attenuation and an effects loop. It’s the most beautiful cleans and overdrive with the turn of your guitars volume knob. Absolute perfection..In the loop I put a Hardwire reverb or a Strymon Flint and an analog delay..in front you don’t need anything but just about any overdrive sounds great. I use an Analogman King Of Tone..Throw on a good fuzz, a wah, and a Univibe when I’m feeling it..Life is good!

[@monosound81]

I’ve always been a JCM 800 guy. I’ve had a few different versions. I had an 80s 50 watt for many years and later on I had a Traynor Voice Master that had been modded to a 2204 circuit. I now have a 1 watt JCM 800 custom build which is perfect for getting that gain without ripping your head off. I also use a clone of an 18 watt Bluesbreaker which is unbelievable. I’ve tried a 30 watt Fender Tweed Twin (clone) for a while and almost bought it but I just preferred the Bluesbreaker. I’m a Marshall and Vox guy all the way.

[@jetmarshall]

Marshall built its brand and reputation on big, loud, glorious amps. Those amps still sound amazing, but the market has moved on to smaller, more versatile, and usable amps. Marshall has tried to move with that market, but got squeezed out by lots of other boutique makers. Marshall's history as the loud, glorious amp may have been its own enemy.

[@AwkwardHypernerd413]

That’s what I’m thinking. Marshall were the kings of a time where we wanted to make shit loud and proud. Now we’re more aware of the long term hearing damage, and most don’t have room for a full Marshall stack setup. Marshall’s excel when you’re a 40 year old with a house in the suburbs and a big ass garage. Not a lot of people want to put a 4x12 in their apartment living room

[@alangreenway6695]

Admittedly Marshall’s aren’t as popular as they used to be, but I would say they’re more popular here in the UK. I think it’s the sort of amp that does one thing- crunch power chords- but it isn’t an indie or a pop amp like a Fender or a Vox can be. Marshall have lived by the sword and died by the sword with being so tied to rock and roll. I own a JVM50, but it’s 25 years old and doesn’t leave my recording room.

[@mattstrat1]

I've got a 2010" Marshall Class V combo . 5 watts . It's featured on most of my videos . I'll let you be the judge on how good it sounds . It's like a 5 watt blues breakers .

[@rickycompton2610]

Great video guys, I have always played through a Marshall, I currently have 4 100 watt heads and 2 4x12 cabinets and a 1936 2x12 cab, but then again I live out in the country where I can play as loud as I want there’s nothing like pushing air through a 4x12 cab, But on the other hand I love my 2 Laney heads also they are very underrated heads in my opion especially my Gh100l

[@MayorMcCheese2000]

I used to be a Marshall guy, I started on Fender then switched to Marshall, but after a little while I then transitioned to Orange... Once I got my first Orange it was game over for the other two, I still have some Marshalls and I use my buddys Fenders now and again, but it usually only takes a few minutes until I'm looking for my Orange. Fenders just don't have enough bite and Marshalls just don't have enough bass and thickness, the Orange to me splits the difference bringing the best of both worlds into one package.

[@homegrownson]

I did sell my Full Stack, but I replaced it with DSL40 with a Creamback Upgrade, but I live on 40 acres and can actually Play Amps at Levels meant to be played without law enforcement coming to my driveway

[@SilverTurtleZ28]

I bought a used 1982 JCM800 in 1991 for $250. Still have it to this day and use it regularly. I've added a Code100 half stack to the amp list and have had a couple other Marshall half stacks over the years, but only the 800 has stayed with me since my teens. That said, Marshall just priced themselves out of the market.

[@Scott__C]

It's not like Diesel or Bogner or Friedman are low priced.

[@BadOhmbre]

I love my '98 DSL 50 and my '86 Lead 100 MOSFET (which is a divisive amp but I think is great). The Bass Breaker and Origin lines are great IMO if you don't wanna pay $3k for a JVM and can be played at sensible volumes. I think the issues are marketing (get younger, more relevant endorsees) and price (a new Marshall priced between a $700-ish outsourced amp and a $3,000+ UK-made JVM would probably outsell everything else Marshall currently makes).

[@Monedgar123]

I had a JCM 800 back in the 90’s. It was awesome! And way too loud, but that was super common back then in the basements and small clubs. At least in the post punk or whatever you want to call it scene. I miss that thing, but I dunno what I’d do with it these days.

[@tonyjones80]

I think I’ve owned maybe 7 or 8 Marshalls since my mid teens- a 100w valve state head with a 2 x12 cab to the couple I own now- in my mid 40’s- bluesbreaker, jcm800 studio, jtm60 and a mode 4 head. So far they’ve all been glorious. But I haven’t used a half stack for a gig in 15 years. And where I am bars where you can actually have a band are few and far between.

[@sallopiccolo7336]

I love Marshall amps. I've had most other brands, but Marshall is my favorite. It's the only guitar amp brand I own these days

[@steelhead197]

You fellas are pure gold gentlemen, thanx for giving the public the “real deal”, when it comes to anything music! Cheers gentlemen

[@rottingcorpse6002]

I still own three...a KK800, a Langner 800 and Monomyth modded vintage modern. I have a bunch of other modern high gain heads in the collection, but the Marshalls still light my candle.

[@frankenstein4106]

I bought an '87 modded JCM800 2204 Marshall last year. It was a great amp, but way more than I needed. I traded it away, and ended up getting a PRS HDRX 20, which sounds awesome and works better for my needs.

[@hollowheadsrestorations]

I think Marshall needs a better entry level product. Something to get people to experience the brand earlier in their playing journey. I don’t know what that product is, but there seems to be no trouble for fender to sell Mustangs, or Boss to sell Katana etc. I have a multitude of amps (including Marshall) and my kids, who all play aren’t interested. At home, they’re using a Positive Grid Spark, an Orange Terror Stamp and a Fender Mustang. At the place they take lessons, they had to sell off the Fender Blues Juniors, because the kids didn’t want to use them. I know from experience, that as they get older and their experience grows, they’ll want to get into the better quality stuff, but exposure to the brand early is what leads to brand loyalty over time. Just ask the cigarette and Beer companies!

[@MrNormanPaperman]

I bought a Marshall Valvestate VS102A used from GC for $100 as a backup amp; but we played so many sketchy dive bars I started using it all the time. The dirty channel rocks and while the clean channel won't match a Fender for country; for a bar band playing covers it worked great.

[@PGCguitars]

The price of a Marshall JVM 410H is $3200,- in the US. In Europe I buy the same amp for 1300 Euro ($1430,-) and that is including 21% Taxes (VAT)!!!

[@davidfaustino4476]

JVM410h.. $1899 brand new. I just purchased a mint condition used one for $800. :)

[@rodrigomartins9692]

​@@davidfaustino4476in the US?

[@DDPAV]

Early 80's I was two jcm800 100 watt heads and 4 4x12 cabinets- everything from house parties to clubs. Today it's a Headrush for the occasional country gig or sub'ing for a church gig. The 80's were glorious but I'm pretty sure the gigs I used to play just don't exist anymore. Todays youngsters are missing out but that's progress. Though I did recently dig out my 2 remaining 4x12 cabs and have them set up in my home studio. No Fender can match that girth and you won't get that feeling standing in front of a headrush.............

[@scottgrady1529]

I am a older guy but I have three Marshall amps and play them daily. Although I have a few Fenders but my Marshalls are my main amps.

[@stevestambaugh6501]

I have 4 Marshall amps 2 100 heads and 2 combos I did build 4 Marshall amp clone heads JTM45, JCM800, 1959 100watt super lead and 18 watt head They all have the old classic rock tone I been looking for. The 4 I build cost about the same as 1 Marshall 1959HW 100- Hand wired head. They are as you say Loud but sound so Great!

[@anthonypanneton923]

I like the looks of those 18W kits. is that what you built? schematic looks like a Hiwatt design.

[@davedobson9801]

I think Marshalls sound great and I've used them for a really long time. Don't have one right now, but I'm always looking, and maybe I'll get one. I think the big challenge is how loud you need to have them. The 20 watt line is pretty ideal.

[@TheJayblue1]

I play all Marshall, 1 SV20H combined with a 2525H, the mini plexi through one 4 x 12 1960 AX with Greenbacks and the mini Silver Jubilee through a SV212 cab with GH1275 Creambacks... and what a tone... Marshall forever!!! 😉😉😃😃👍👍😎😎🤟🤟🎸🎸🔊🔊🙌🙌

[@SirLoinMagroin]

Marshall DSL series amps are inexpensive and have good clean/crunch/hi-gain sound imho. The DSL-40cr is a workhorse combo. The DSL-20 head can also be had for those not needing as much power as the combo. The DSL-100 for those who want/need ear-splitting volume. The 100 head is about $1200.00 US. The DSL-40cr is about $1100.00. The DSL-20 head about $800.00. The Origin series are even less but not as versatile. The DSL amps are Marshall's best bang for buck in my opinion.

[@johnmeeks9308]

I have played so many different amps it's ridiculous but I had never played a full stack Marshall or any Marshall for that matter until the origin 20 came out I decided to give it a try I bought it I love it I've tested other amps on the system I'm using nothing sounds like that Marsha coming through a celestion fullback 150 watt cabinet 15 in it's badass

[@glassslide]

I have the 50th Anniversary one watt Marshall heads and for home playing those little amps are AMAZING!! Is it the same as my old Super Lead? No, but its way closer than you might anticipate and you don't need ear plugs. They are still out there on Reverb fairly regularly. It does get the "Marshall sound" and imho and they are loud enough that you can upset the neighbors if you crank them through a 2-12 cabinet, lol. Fun stuff!!

[@copperaudio9664]

I've never felt the pressure wave of destruction coming off a Marshal 4x12 but my little Marshal Origin 50 head through a Celestion Gold on the edge of breakup makes my tail wag pretty good.

[@1968joseph1]

Melody answer: "Where Have All The Flowers Gone" I won't speak for guitarists, but weight of equipment is one of the biggest factors in the bass playing world. Large amps are going away because they don't want to lug a "heavy" amp. I hate that because I still think a heavy, wooden cabinet with a good speaker sounds better than class D through a Neo speaker.

[@cageliner]

I've had some heavy duty Marshall combos - a late '60s 50W tremolo with 4x10", a Bluesbreakers with 2x12" in the '90s and a few years ago I had a Silver Jubilee mini combo with 1x12". I sold or traded them all. I've never had even a half stack Marshall. My Marshalls now are a DSL1HR and three 5W combos - Class 5, DSL5C and Origin 5. I have one 1x12" 1974CX cabinet. North American pricing has gone stupid so I don't shop Marshalls anymore but I would buy a decent used SV20C if I got one cheap enough. There are a lot of amps in my music room but they are all different makes and mostly low power that I bought used or heavily discounted over the last five years or so.

[@Turboy65]

For many years I wanted to try Marshalls but the models that interested me (the real classic big amps that built the brand) were out of my reach. But once I got my first 100 watt Marshall, I had my second less than a week later. Now I'm a player in the restoration parts market for vintage Marshalls. I own several. And they kick ass in their own way. I totally love my Mesas and my Fenders, too. They're all different. But my '69 Plexi is going to be one of the last two amps I would part with if I had to. The LAST one I'd part with is one of my Mesas.

[@Thirsty_Deer_Studio]

yes. I play 2 10 w amps too. Mesa Dual Rectifier Tremoverb and a 67 Twin (85 but close enough) power and headroom yes sir. I would love a vintage Plexi or JTM 45

[@charleshunt7981]

Baxter! The Lazy J-20 is based on a Tweed Deluxe but also has reverb, tremolo and power scaling. Sounds like that would be a combination of features that you could appreciate.

[@indridcold1712]

Marshall is still ever present in metal. The 20w stuff is great in apartments. Marshall also does clean great. (Wind Cries Mary) Enjoy Merl Fest

[@jeffgutierrez8796]

In my opinion, old marshall amps are great, but use the right tool for the job. Most musicians don't play only one style but many, almost hybrid or mixed genres. You made valid points and i mostly agree. For me i like my vintage roland jazz chorus 120, great for muliiple genres.

[@robertprice5039]

Still got a few 4x12 Marshall Cabs, and still use them once in a while, but I am using either 65 Amps or Dr Zs playing out because I can use a 20 watt on stage to it's full potential, and yes, Marshalls are to expense versus higher build quality amps.

[@blakjack3053]

I get the same feeling about old Marshall tube amps as I do about old American muscle cars; powerful, classic, rare and irreplaceable.

[@jpalberthoward9]

I agree with you 100%. But now imagine having a 1969 Plymouth Roadrunner with the dual quad Hemi and the 4 speed, but every street within a 100 mile radius of your house is a 15 mph school zone. This is the same problem with big loud amps. The karens have taken over the world and turned it into a global HOA. In the future, guitars will have built in Bluetooth rigs inside, and if you take your earbuds out without shutting it off, it will be a noise violation.

[@user-tz2zz5ij1s]

Friedman small box and dirty Shirley for the win. Two great amps with amazing master volumes that will cover any Marshall sound you wantZ.

[@sunlightpictures8367]

I have a Marshall tube amp, wouldn't trade it for the world.

[@eoinjennings519]

I have bought a lot of small and modelling amps and I never quite got the sound I wanted until I got even a small DSL5 to go with my Les Paul - they just do the thing

[@sowhulljnr]

It is likely that fewer people in the US are playing Marshalls as you rightly said because in the US they are simply too expensive and you have more domestic options available to you at more reasonable price. It is a totally different scenario here in the UK where, for example, a brand new 1960ax 4x12 cabinet costs about £750, which is $940. The exact same cabinet in Sweetwater is $1900!!! However, spin it around and look at how in the US you can get a Friedman 4x12 vintage for $1500 (which would be considered higher end) so the choice is easy. However, the Friedman here is £1700, which is closer to $2150, so you don't see many of them here. Marshall stuff is still relatively reasonable in price, especially on the second hand market. You can pick up JTM45 and 1987x reissues for under £1000, and cabinets range anywhere from £200-£500 unless you are into the reall late 60s / early 70s vintage cabs for collectors.

[@seanbrooks2583]

What really hurts marshall is the import tax. They are cheap in the UK, but in the US its 2x as much. So you can either buy a 20 watt PCB chinese marshall for $1800 or $1500 for a handwired 20 watt friedman.

[@johngormus5855]

I have a 69 JMP100. And it sounds different from every other JMP100 from that era. Took years to find the right one. They were famous for using different parts while building. If they ran out of a part they used what was in the next box. Fenders all sound consistent. If your fender blows up, you can go to any store get same amp with same sound. But I love my JMP amp and with Freyette PS2 can use it all of the time.

[@Scott__C]

My understanding is the Fryette has its own power amp built in. Is that right? If so, how does it maintain the amps characteristic, particularly the power amp breakup?

[@Journey-of-1000-Miles]

I’ve been playing a vintage silver jubilee 2555 for the last 30 some years, along with the matching cabinet. Now that I’m older, and the amp is more difficult to carry around, I’ve been having a total crisis trying to replace it.

[@yaniv-nos-tubes]

by your video i can tell that youve never played a marshall 1974x (or 1973x,1958x). it's 18w combo 1x12 ,handwired in england built for the studio. i have one with a matching 1974 cx extension cab underneath so it's 2x12 18w perfect for home use and even small gigs with the cab. it's like a hybrid between a bluesbreaker( some call it baby bluesbreaker) and a vox amp, it has a magical clean tone ,takes pedals well and drives like a marshall.

[@darwinsaye]

I think Marshall is hitting a high point lately with all their great 20 watt versions. They faced up to the reality that no one can really use a hundred watt stack anymore, and instead of switching over to concentrating on computer friendly digital tech and ampless stage setups, they just came out with low watt versions of their classic amps. It sucks if they are not making the sales they deserve, but I think Marshall is putting out the smartest amp lineup they’ve had since the early 70s.

[@backontheroad8778]

I own a backline company, we rent a lot of 1960A cabs but not a lot of heads... most bands are carrying Kempers but not carrying cabs

[@timwalls7944]

Like what Jonathan said about do it all amps, I bought a 3rd power kitchen sink thinking it would be the end all be all and it didn’t do one thing well in my opinion. Had it for about a month

[@jonribich2241]

You should've touched on the proliferation of overdrive pedals and products like the PRS HDRX 20 which have modern appointments that Marshall should be implementing.

[@scottmacphee35]

I run an Origin 20 head into a 1960 4x12 cabinet, and it is a great sound. I do not gig or record with it, but it's a decent living room rig.

[@duncananderson4984]

I definitely have a Marshall Bluetooth speaker, but almost exclusively play my Fender deluxe reverb. I’ve had a few chances to get a Marshall amp, and always went another direction

[@danwilson9530]

I've commented before about when I was 14 in 1982 and my guitar teacher had a band that covered the music of NWOBHM artists (which then was obscure music in AZ, USA... and I guess still is) of which a few of the members went on to Heavy Metal notoriety. Anyway, my teacher had two full Marshall JCM800 stacks in his living room, which was their practice space, and he was one of two guitarists. There is something magical about a Marshall stack at volume in an enclosed space. But conjuring up such magic is difficult as pointed out between the costs involved and the space needed to pull it off. As much as they attempted to seal off his living room with soundproofing and a removable wood wall, the police were regular visitors to his place back then. Yea, with a Master Volume, a 20 watt version or an modeling program you can get the distortion it produces at a low volume, but that's only one aspect of “the magic”. The magic doesn't happen without pushing air at volume. I have a vintage, last of the hand wired early '73 Marshall 1987 50 watt head and a Chris Stapleton edition Princeton. Guess which one I use in my condo... Wrong, I use my Fender Mustang Micro headphone amp... and sometimes my old Rockman X100. I don't need another reason to elevate my ranking on my HOAs $#!+list.

[@finishin.my.coffee8780]

True. I'd be willing to go out on a limb and say the majority of us playing in our homes are using headphone amps, Mustangs, Katanas, Orange Crush series, etc.

[@sparkyguitar0058]

Not headphone amp but 5 watt S S head (Hotone Mojo Diamond) into a free Monoprice 15w cabinet that came with no amp but 12 " Celesion 70/80 speaker. Loud enough to make trouble but low enough volume to rock out also. In case I want to knock down a wall or 2 I've got a pro tube Twin that's stupid loud. 60/100 watts. So I could actually get some time behind a tube amp I got a Boogie S O B. Again 60/100 watts but a limit knob that helps to really be able to use this amp.

[@danwilson9530]

@@finishin.my.coffee8780 I’ll admit I like the Rockman more, but it’s a clumsy rig

[@PapajamaJoe]

“Cro-magnum” has got to be my new favorite term! Love it!

[@jeffwhitley9624]

. The Marshall SV20 "mini plexi" is to die for.. It is that sound but at lower volume.. I wish Marshall would do more with that range...

[@silverman169]

My ear led me to Vox when I was choosing between the 3 starter Pokémon of guitar amps (Fender, Marshall, Vox), but Marshalls had been my dream amp as a kid because of a lot of 90s rock bands.

[@curtismeikle3141]

I’ve got a mid 80’s JCM 800 2204 and I’ve played a lot of shows with it. To be honest, I don’t like the way it sounds on its own because of how bright it is. But it sits exactly where it needs to in a dense mix which is why I have it. Volume is the main drawback for me. Even with a master volume I’m constantly at odds with the front of house, and it’s very difficult to stay below the singer. I’ve tried selling it a few times over the years, but haven’t had any luck so I’ve decided to keep it. It’s a cool piece of history, and it does what it’s supposed to very well. Fortunately I’ve got other amps that are more practical

[@billwittman0504]

Don't know what mic's you're using but, your audio is one of the best on KZbin. Thanks

[@catmandoodoo7903]

I think Dr Jim’s passing stymied their development and direction. The ideal for me would be a Bluesbreaker but a modelling version a la Fender Tonemaster series. I recently got rid of my beloved 6100 30th Anniversary head and cab because it was just too big and complex for what I need. Also I was paranoid about the irreplaceable midi board dying.

[@billwagner5870]

Do you do find Marshalls sound better with humbuckers then single coils ?

[@matthewgonzales3970]

I guess it depends on where you are in terms of what you see on stages. I have played a number of festivals and gigs that were backlined, and the heads and cabs were always Marshalls: mostly JCM2000 DSL's and JCM 900's. The couple of venue owners I know told me most of the older bands request Marshalls be provided, I'm guessing since that is something they're used to and have used for a long time. I played my Super Lead 100 for 25 years. It had a master volume mod, so I could get away with using it in clubs, but I admit it was still REALLY loud in smaller clubs and bars. There were three things that eventually led to me changing rigs: 1. It WAS indeed too loud in small spaces. Even in my home studio, you couldn't have the cab in the room or it would swallow everything and bleed through every mic. 2. Playing gigs where there were 4+ bands on the bill, or clubs where parking/load-in was an issue, made lugging those cabs a nightmare. 3. Old Marshalls are tempermental and expensive to keep running. Even the weather could affect my tone on a nightly basis. In it's last few years, I pumped tons of money into replacing failing 40-year-old parts. So, I have now joined the ranks of guitarists using smaller tech to achieve my tone. It's the BluGuitar Amp1, which is still all analog micro-tube tech, but a small pedal-style unit. It was designed around Thomas Blug's JTM45, so I'm still pretty much doing the "Marshall" thing. It has multiple channels and effects loop, but I still use it like a vintage Marshall: all pedals in front and just use one channel and my volume knob for cleaning up. Does the job beautifully. So, yes, my Super Lead is gone, but the DNA is still there.

[@carlthomas99]

Waiting on the Marshall version of the Fender Tone Master amps. 2024 hopefully.

[@AndiKravljaca]

I mean, to be fair, the use case for a gig backline these days is that you want an amp which almost act as an FRFR. Your pedal board does all the tone shaping, does all the overdrive and distortion, and all you want is an amp with a pretty flat response to give you that sound out. Fenders are more suitable for that use case than Marshalls, because their inherent sound profile is more full range. These days, you throw an amp in a box style pedal at it, and get your Fender to sound like a marshall that way.

[@robertedwards21]

What do you think of the Fender Supersonic Amp head with the "burn" setting as an alternative to the new Marshall 20W Studio amps?

[@chrisw6806]

Saw Joe Perry’s solo band last week in a small theater, and there’s a guy who definitely has not embraced the modern approach to playing live lol, especially in smaller venues 😅 (2 100 watt JCM 800’s running into an old 8x12 and 4x12 stack that were miked up), with a couple little fender combos thrown in for good measure 🤣😅. End result, sounded glorious lol.

[@johncrace911]

Malmsteen and Satriani Marshall tones are glorious. Anybody know what Vai has settled on for amp ?

[@barbershoppodcast]

As a smallish - but goodish recording studio owner I have as my floor selections a 1966 Supro Model 24 18w, a 1996 Fender Blues Deluxe 40w, and a 2020 Marshall DSL40cr 40 watt - all with 12" single speakers and if I need another tone - I'll break out the 1980's Roland/Boss rack unit or even the ol' Line 6 POD - and the cork sniffers can't even tell!

[@el0blaino]

I didn’t know much about amps - just images in my head of Cream and Jimi and Led Zeppelin and metal folks with Marshalls, and Beatles with Vox, and Fenders … I guess for “Americana” sounds, I didn’t have a strong image of who played Fender. When I decided I was finally getting an amp, I did all this research, just a ton, and for what I was looking for - a tube/valve amp, but great at low volume, with a reputation for good build quality, able to get the tone I heard in my head, not a billion dollars, not a thousand pounds, and not with a mess of controls or needing pedals to make it happen. To my surprise the winner ended up being a Marshall tone, but by anybody but Marshall. For build quality, low volume sounds, value-for-price - Marshall just wasn’t there, compared to boutiques. I had my heart set on a Carr Mercury V but they didn’t have one locally. While working up my courage to buy without actually trying first, I had the chance to play a Magnatone Super Fifteen. OH NO. First strum I knew I had to have it. I was devastated! I had so wanted to have something that not only sounded great and hits all those other points but looked quirky and full of character, and the dang thing is black and silver - I am basically playing a Marshall with Fender colors, I'm so cliche! But it sounds fantastic, wouldn't be denied!

[@St0n_e_man]

A lot of young musicians live in small compact apartments and its true what they said. Marshalls take A LOT of room, Fenders are used at backlined gigs because they take pedals SO WELL! Sometimes we just want to play in our bed room and a blues jr is perfect for ANY musician. Guitar stores carry more fender amps than any other brand. Hopefully a revolution happens in the music scene, but its going to take a lot for marshalls to come back

[@goeldner87]

Over the years I've had both a Marshall JVM410H and JCM2000 DSL into a 4×12. In a band situation they are amazing! However hauling them around sucked and I never played them at home as they were far too loud. I don't do the band thing anymore so I ended up selling and buying a 15w amp for home. Thinking about one of those studio vintage amps though