The US tech job market is worse than I thought.

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Coding Jesus

Coding Jesus

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@valdomero738
@valdomero738 10 сағат бұрын
CS majors and programmers are going through what Petroleum Engineers and the energy sector went through in 2014-2015. Mind you the market never recovered. Energy companies learned how to exploit what they have.
@larryellison531
@larryellison531 10 сағат бұрын
Managers are shitty they do not even know how to create circle and lops to generate more projects to hire people.
@jamestogher1098
@jamestogher1098 10 сағат бұрын
Thats an interesting comparison I don't know a lot about energy, but it seems to be somewhat a trendy sector meaning from my point of view different kinds of energy get a lot of hype until the next thing. For example nuclear, petroleum, or now solar, wind, coined 'green energy', etc. I know tech has these cycles as well but they typically arent as violent, disruptive (at least from my pov). There is definitely a down turn, but I'm going to optimistically and perhaps naively put the brakes on calling it permanent. Programming and CS are just so embedded in the average persons day to day life, that it's hard to imagine a future where this doesn't remain a stable form of income.
@furdhiek
@furdhiek 9 сағат бұрын
Having been trading renewable energy at that time I can understand what you said. After the drop, oil companies understood that renewables were here forever and that they had to include it in their portfolio if they wanted to last. Renewable production and demands are the most influential parameters of energy price. Big oil and gas companies were already in the energy market, it was therefore easy for them to include it in their trading portfolio. Otherwise with the war in Europe, the prices of energy did go back up and renewables are even more profitable. Actually a lot of big trading firms are opening desks to trade short-term and the old energy companies are starting to struggle to employ because salaries are very attractive in pure trading firms.
@tottiegod8021
@tottiegod8021 7 сағат бұрын
Do you think big tech doesn't exploit the VISA program in the USA? LOL There are many big tech engineers making $80-150k doing the same roles as FTE natives.
@HelloThere-xs8ss
@HelloThere-xs8ss 2 сағат бұрын
It will just change. It's never going away
@chanrox69
@chanrox69 8 сағат бұрын
Interviewed with 20+ companies only to realize that they don't have an intention to hire. The roles have been apparently open for 6 months
@SinCityGT3
@SinCityGT3 7 сағат бұрын
Every company is "hiring" if they see someone that looks like a 100x programmer.
@chanrox69
@chanrox69 7 сағат бұрын
@SinCityGT3 100x developers don't need a job
@catofdeepblack
@catofdeepblack 5 сағат бұрын
There is also an option that you weren't good enough, and they do not want to hire whoever.
@chanrox69
@chanrox69 5 сағат бұрын
@catofdeepblack You're not wrong. I definitely screwed up my initial interviews and I wasn't good enough
@SinCityGT3
@SinCityGT3 5 сағат бұрын
@@catofdeepblack thats possible. But I've worked for 2 companies that were always "hiring" and interviewing but never made an offer unless they interviewed someone that was staff at Google/meta.
@nonequivalence1864
@nonequivalence1864 4 сағат бұрын
I've been full stack engineer for over 7yrs. Got my CS degree. Worked at a startup from seed round all the way to acquisition. Now working at a larger company. I'm DONE with tech. The interviews are disrespectful and are questions that the interviewers can't even answer themselves. It's all one big joke. All companies out there are a joke. I know what I'm talking about. I've been through the depths of hell and came out on the other side. Tech is cut-throat, evil, brutal, unfair, biased and toxic. I'm transitioning to real estate. Yeah, the grass ain't greener on the other side but dealing with code makes me sick just thinking about it. I used to love coding. Now, I despise it. I got fooled into thinking CS was the way to go. Boy, was I wrong.
@MartinoNotts
@MartinoNotts 4 сағат бұрын
Definitely the interview process feels inhumane in some way; reductionist and not respectful or empowering in my experience. But if coding and tech is all we know, what are we to do? AI is here to take visual design jobs (at the low-mid end) and in time, for coders too. Maybe we have to switch to Product, or become redundant?
@Prounounced
@Prounounced 4 сағат бұрын
the whiplash from 'Tech is cut-throat, evil, brutal, unfair, biased and toxic.' to ' I'm transitioning to real estate' is wild. Best of luck
@kl3664
@kl3664 2 сағат бұрын
I went to a developer Bootcamp right when AI was coming out after my business of 10 years went through post-covid changes and bad partners. Now, I just trade full time solo and make more than a senior dev. Always been an entrepreneur though.
@valdomero738
@valdomero738 2 сағат бұрын
@@nonequivalence1864 go into welding , or construction or anything tbh.
@rosepainting8775
@rosepainting8775 Сағат бұрын
I am unemployed and I wish you all the good wishes sir.
@ball-e
@ball-e 7 сағат бұрын
They won't give you feedback, but they'll send you a survey to improve their interview process
@jmg9509
@jmg9509 2 сағат бұрын
Lmao, imagine.
@kikuomiku3
@kikuomiku3 7 сағат бұрын
The reason they ghost you when you ask for feedback is because their HR department doesn’t allow it. Giving feedback to candidates as to why they weren’t hired opens up the company up to risk, including legal risk for hiring discrimination if the candidate disagrees with their reasoning. There is no real upside to the company for giving feedback to a rejected candidate compared to the downsides they may face.
@AdrenResi
@AdrenResi 2 сағат бұрын
I would just ask for feedback at the end phase of the interview
@tiqien9831
@tiqien9831 16 минут бұрын
Depends on the company and the interviewer tbf. I got an interview for nasa and they were pretty much completely transparent on everything (metrics and what to work on) after the interview (didnt get that internship but am grateful for the feedback)
@vishweshmashruwala9307
@vishweshmashruwala9307 8 сағат бұрын
I wholeheartedly agree with your point that doing good on leetcode interviews is directly proportional to how much free time you have, in my sophomore year of college, i interviewed with companies and did good on leetcode style interviews, cause I practicing them in my free time and in my delusion that I was smart af, since then I had to pick a part time job to cover some expenses and now I dont have enough to do leetcode with university course work and part time job and feel like I have lost all my leetcode muscles.
@manutebol956
@manutebol956 4 сағат бұрын
same dude i work and do school now and my leetcode skills have gone down the drain
@NickKravitz
@NickKravitz 5 сағат бұрын
I am a quant developer and analyst like Jesus; I also went through a job applicant cycle in 2024. The biggest factor in getting offers continues to be pure luck. I am now in my 50s so have been through 1000+ interviews and have already heard all the technical and behavioral questions multiple times. I generally perform well at interviews but have ups and downs like everyone. It is just a numbers game. I sent off approximately 1000 job inquiries; this led to around 50 conversations, 10 interview cycles and 2 offers. Be organized and be prepared to juggle multiple interview cycles. Over a 30+ year career I would say 2024 is around average, worse than the go-go 90s and better than the dumpster fires of 2002 and 2008.
@notashark8069
@notashark8069 9 сағат бұрын
I am glad I chose the medical field when everyone was getting into CS.
@kagame6524
@kagame6524 8 сағат бұрын
Thinking about switching to med field too
@sunnydays405
@sunnydays405 7 сағат бұрын
The smart move for sure if you were able to stomach the front-end investment of financial/opportunity cost and stress of studying. Clearly it paid off, 6 years ago most people were high off the accessibility of tech jobs, the smart ones went into fields with extreme gatekeeping like medicine that aren't threatened by outsourcing.
@nakatash1977
@nakatash1977 7 сағат бұрын
Your time will come
@bharghavak
@bharghavak 7 сағат бұрын
​@@nakatash1977 Something that disruptive is a long time away, a good sign too.
@JJ-bj6hg
@JJ-bj6hg 6 сағат бұрын
😂​@@nakatash1977
@sunnydays405
@sunnydays405 7 сағат бұрын
CS is absolutely COOKED. Copers will say it's just normal market swings, but the jobs aren't coming back, and even if some of them do, it won't be at the same salary. Over-saturation of the field, outsourcing, and (to a lesser degree) AI has wrecked the field from being accessible to competent software engineers.Time to learn how to put fries in the bag.
@hockeymikey
@hockeymikey Сағат бұрын
Outsourcing has always been there, it's nothing new.
@sunnydays405
@sunnydays405 50 минут бұрын
​@@hockeymikey Not to this degree at all. There is now an extremely large pool of cheap labor in India that has the education to do these tech jobs for a fraction of the price, this was definitely not the case before. The reason a lot of us in the West can do our job from home is the same reason keeping the job is uncertain since it can be sent overseas. Sure, the new foreign team may not be 100% as competent as the American tech team that got replaced, but for upper management trying to maximize short term profit on their balance sheet, it doesn't matter to them. The complete accessibility of learning tech skills and the fact there is 0 gatekeeping makes this a dead field career wise for most folks who are not in the top 10% of talent. Your B.S/M.S in Computer Science from a decent American university is now worth its weight in used toilet paper.
@aj-jc4cv
@aj-jc4cv 9 сағат бұрын
Congrats on your new job. I think this process also favours younger folk, as when you're older, not only may have other commitments outside of work, you also have less energy to swot in the evenings. I am not saying this is deliberate but more a side effect of the current state of hiring. Also, 8 rounds seems crazy to me, thats a lot of trips to the dentist or sick days.
@groundhog-plays
@groundhog-plays 6 сағат бұрын
I don't apply to places that do leetcode anyway... 17 years of experience. If they are asking me to do leetcode, it's a sign of disrespect. Would I ask a HM to do very complex managerial exercises. No it's saying: I Don't respect you as a candidate and if I hire you I won't respect you as an employee.
@kingdrift1136
@kingdrift1136 3 сағат бұрын
You must get abysmal pay then
@hockeymikey
@hockeymikey Сағат бұрын
Agreed. I'm not going to do some stupid pop quiz.
@TKGZONE
@TKGZONE 9 сағат бұрын
thats exactly what how i felt, every interview felt like a crap shoot and they all ask something different each requiring you to study something different which is a big time commitment. I got so sick of it.
@LM-tv2bo
@LM-tv2bo 5 сағат бұрын
The knock-on effect is that every SWE is switching to be a DS, DE or MLE and this is causing that market to be mega-cooked, even though that's one of the fastest growing markets in the US.
@jw4659
@jw4659 8 сағат бұрын
Being ghosted is awful. The least they can do is give you some feedback so you can prepare better for the next interview.
@EnronnSierra
@EnronnSierra Сағат бұрын
I'm in a desktop support position at large company and at times I get frustrated and have applied at other places. I'll normally get as far as, your resume has been sent to HR for consideration. Then its crickets. One of things I think you missed and I realized in my journey is, these companies might already have internal candidates ready for the position. But as a due diligence, they need to post the position for external candidates to apply to be in compliance. The job might already have been filled, but they just get a kick out of wasting your time. Where I'm at in tech, I've come to be content, got a small raise recently and I'm working with it for as long as I can. My focus is saving, maxing out the 401K coast until retirement a few decades from now. Fingers crossed. I feel so bad for those leaving college with all those student loans.
@notkamara
@notkamara 7 сағат бұрын
Dang didn't think I'd hear it from you. We really are cooked out here boys😅
@anclaudys
@anclaudys 5 сағат бұрын
Exactly. Leetcode interviews test how much free time (and arguably working memory which peaks at age 22). That’s all that it does. You could be a senior or staff engineer who can add more value to a company than the next 50 engineers combined, but it doesn’t matter. If you have a family to feed and mortgage to pay, tough luck. You just didn’t Leetcode hard enough. I’m dreading the idea of eventually getting married and starting a family simply bc of this Leetcode bs. The process is unethical af to say the least. I might be really reaching admittedly, but I think there might even be good grounds to take this issue up to the courts or legislation if advocates with enough technical knowledge can make the case for why these interviews have almost entirely nothing to do with what you do on the job and often even reject highly qualified candidates. Like I wonder if the govt or the military had a full-blown tech sector, if it would bet our national security on whether or not an employee can Leetcode. It’s really that serious. I’m glad that people like you with larger platforms are finally speaking up.
@jasperclement6320
@jasperclement6320 9 сағат бұрын
I think the reason companies don't give good feedback to candidates they are not interested in is because they don't have any incentive to do that. In fact, it is better for them if they keep a large amount of people in a state of limbo. That way those people become more desperate and they can get better candidates for less money.
@eightgates-ai
@eightgates-ai 7 сағат бұрын
....OR the eval process for an interviewee from the prespective of an interviewer is a grade scale of recommendation confidence to other interviewers which looks like: no hire, hire with low, hire with medium and hire with high confidence. These qualitative grades are collected and a decision is made which is then communicated through HR. You are right though that there is just not enough incentive to pay interviewers for the extra time to write more than a grade report for each candidate interviewed. Big players can take the intiative but...will not make other follow necessarily because there is just not enough evidence to suggest that companies or interviewing protocols can improve the health of the candidate pool. It is by default considered the uni/bootcamp/individual's responsibility.
@Philgob
@Philgob 7 сағат бұрын
True. Also revealing what made them fail a process exposes them to all sorts of potential legal and public backlash if not worded perfectly. There’s just no point.
@shiyiyin3403
@shiyiyin3403 9 сағат бұрын
The company could afford to treat candidate like shit right now, because there are thousand of people are ready to apply.
@jmg9509
@jmg9509 2 сағат бұрын
Oversaturation cooked the CS/Tech job market. Edit: At least in part.
@willconyea5968
@willconyea5968 2 сағат бұрын
the most frustrating thing for me is when recruiters reach out to me and then keep me on the hook for almost a month, but then end up ghosting me after promising me a 2nd round. It's like it's a game. This has happened to me 3 times.
@adarby4215
@adarby4215 3 сағат бұрын
Getting ghosted/no feedback really is the most demoralizing aspect of interviewing period.
@abrarmubeen2604
@abrarmubeen2604 40 минут бұрын
yup, and when they reject you after the interview they act all nice and helpful, but then after that they ghost you when you ask for feedback
@SaifKhan-di1rq
@SaifKhan-di1rq 37 минут бұрын
@Coding Jesus this was an amazing video and i also currently looking for my next role as a devops engineer and i couldn't have agreed more, thank you for sharing your thoughts it really helps knowing i am not the only one thinking about the way US tech job market is right now.
@qvtvna
@qvtvna 5 сағат бұрын
as someone whos graduated recently, i honestly hoped in some part that the boomer-pill mindset of "people are just lazy" was right, not because it validated anything i thought, but because it made me feel like all i had to do was put my head down and grind; it was an illusion that i had some kind of control over my future. understanding that the problems with the market right now are largely out of my control is tough to hear, but necessary to understand. i think the best thing i can do right now is try and find another industry that i might be interested in, as you suggested in the video. thank you for giving your perspective and experience on this topic!
@qpwug8s1d7rhf
@qpwug8s1d7rhf 4 сағат бұрын
I recently got two offers from big tech. It is definitely harder right now, but if you grind for several months and keep trying you can get offers.
@AaronBlox-h2t
@AaronBlox-h2t Сағат бұрын
@@qpwug8s1d7rhf Two offers in 12 months?
@pisiiki
@pisiiki 8 сағат бұрын
Do you want to work in an organization where the engineers are people whose strength is solving toy problems and grinding for 16 hours a day? Think twice. Also, you've had your whole life to learn skills. What will you fix in one week? This is the mindset you need when interviewing. If they give you a random, trivial problem that you can copy-paste in one minute and judge you based on that, just offer your apologies and leave the interview.
@groundhog-plays
@groundhog-plays 6 сағат бұрын
I feel like there are two worlds in software engineering. The big tech/quant upper elite, that many want to get into so the interview becomes who can chant the eldritch rituals better. Then there is just the normal one, which I am a part of and prefer. It is made up of normal people who have more in their life than just a cat, grinding leet code and working to live. An interview at a place like that asks situational questions and looks to see if your answers actually line up with what you would do in the job and is way more telling as to who is a good or bad hire. I feel that all the elite places have going for them is investor money and prestige. Investors will keep pumping money in and these people keep doing the eldritch rituals and the circle continues. But hey, even AOL used to be a very high "S tier" company to work for when it was pumped full of investor money.
@AaronBlox-h2t
@AaronBlox-h2t Сағат бұрын
@@groundhog-plays AOL is still around? haha
@LiveType
@LiveType Сағат бұрын
I find soft technical problems (the brutally hard ones) very good tests of problem solving capability. It shows whether or not they can break the problem down into smaller more manageable chunks and how well they know each of those chunks. But basing hiring prospects on whether or not you can give a correct answer to leetcode 141 in 20 mins is typically not a great test as I've interviewed folks I know are very capable and they fail miserably on those tests. I've done it myself and I've never once passed unless I got lucky and quite literally saw the problem the night before. As stated in the video it's more a filter for how much free time you have. I typically give 2 questions. A "do you know the basics of programming" and then depending on the role a brutally hard field specific problem (not leetcode and hopefully something they haven't seen before aka not something you can LLM in 15 seconds) with full expectation that they won't be able to actually fully solve it. I simply want them to walk through how they would approach solving it. They don't even need to write code. This very very cleanly seperates candidates that know how to approach, solve, and communicate problems and those that don't. This position costs 250k/year. I expect you to be competent. Now if we're talking ~70k then yeah there's a lot more wiggle room.
@ayoubkhalil1
@ayoubkhalil1 2 сағат бұрын
I recently got laid off as a full stack engineer. I have 2.5 yoe. Tbh I've been getting a lot of responses for interviews but they either are insanely hard interview (had one for Amazon sde 2 - sht was so hard, especially the technical questionnaire part) or their terrible jobs like start ups that expect you to work 12+ hours a day. Some other ones are asking for insane experience for sht pay. I live in NYC, offering 80-100k for over 5 yoe is absolutely insane. Trying to remain hopeful. Still getting interviews hoping to eventually land something reasonable soon.
@payamism
@payamism 9 сағат бұрын
Even if you have some free time, would it be more beneficial for you to reverse a linked list or learn more about Microservices, Aspire,... things that you are using on a daily basis and need to develop more knowledge? I know plenty of senior software engineers who simply don't interview because they don't have time to spend on leet code and hacker rank style interviews. Those interviews are also very demoralizing for experienced engineers, if you know what I am saying.
@ripple123
@ripple123 9 сағат бұрын
yea iv recently been interviewing and only chatted to HR people who don’t understand technical things. Only for the screening to go well and fail on a leetcode interview and never get to chat about what I actually do on a technical level on day to day basis
@aspeno5613
@aspeno5613 Сағат бұрын
This was really well put, Mr. Coding Jesus. I'm currently employed as a junior developer with a fair amount of free time and I don't even hate Leetcode, yet studying 100+ questions and a dozen topics and "staying sharp" on them for months is incredibly difficult. Can't imagine how it is for others. I love programming but am beginning to wonder how long I can stay in the field.
@kd8437
@kd8437 3 сағат бұрын
How is it possible to have 6-8 rounds of interviewes for a developer? What are they even talking about during these rounds? I've been working as a software dev for 10+ years and if I interview a person, I need only one interview to assess tech level of a candidate.
@RolopIsHere
@RolopIsHere 4 минут бұрын
I had to interview 11 hours with 7 people for amazon Sde interviewe... at the end, it felt like torture, and I wanted it to be over...
@MattRodriguez-h7j
@MattRodriguez-h7j 6 сағат бұрын
Dude the market is soooo bad right now. Getting a job now might take 20+ weeks
@Zapanath
@Zapanath Сағат бұрын
Here is my two cents. There are a lot of fraudster candidates that have helped to mess up the job market as well. There is lots of cheating and attempted cheating in technical interviews and some candidates still getting the jobs and completely failing on the job. These ppl are making the job market hard as well.
@Ludwigr-u1v
@Ludwigr-u1v Сағат бұрын
bro you had me on the first point, Great take!!!
@eightgates-ai
@eightgates-ai 10 сағат бұрын
I see it as automation reshaping expectations. The end to end understanding has become necessary because one doesn't need humans anymore for small localized problems. The real problem is a standard way to reliably test people and the industry has been trying to figure that out for more than decade now. Seems like there is no good answer yet.
@mjohnson510
@mjohnson510 3 сағат бұрын
You can build in public on X. You can also prep on the side when you get off work. 1hr a day after work for 4-5 months should keep one sharp. #3 Trade options before work. Grow your portfolio 30-50% a week.
@hockeymikey
@hockeymikey Сағат бұрын
What?
@mjohnson510
@mjohnson510 Сағат бұрын
@ I’m really saying get rich trading options
@rosspayne5099
@rosspayne5099 9 сағат бұрын
Hey coding jesus, ive said this before and i hope you see my comment. Do you think the rapid production/acceleration of AI is the reason why potential jobs like this wont have value?
@nielubiegdyktospatrzyjakje3909
@nielubiegdyktospatrzyjakje3909 4 сағат бұрын
I'm working at credit risk department in Europe. The hiring process was kinda short, but they still manage to hire smart people mainly from maths, data science even economics academic background. What I saw however, is some kind of a entry requirements dilution among the quant'ish roles in US. Some time ago it used to be stated in this order (CS, maths, physics, ........, finance & economics). Nowadays I see a lot of offers are putting finance even one place before maths. If that's not a subtle message, I don't know what is. I know it'll just enlarge the number of applicants tremendously by non-stem people with "just-to-try-attitude", but on the other hand if companies are don't bothered by them, why they'd put such dilluted application requirements?
@furdhiek
@furdhiek 9 сағат бұрын
Very cool to see your feedback. In some previous videos, you also talked about the fact that you were giving interviews in your current role. So you might have seen similar issues. Do other recruiter colleagues see the problem like you do? Or do recruiters still believe the process is fine ?
@gustavo3322
@gustavo3322 Сағат бұрын
Is this more towards software development or infrastructure? Because I have had more luck with infrastructure than programming. And my degree is in CS and now finishing my MBA.
@BangMaster96
@BangMaster96 10 минут бұрын
There are on average 6 rounds you have to go through to land a job. 1 - Introductory call, this is the initial 15 to 30 minute conversation with the recruiter. 2 - Technical phone screen. Where you probably sit down with an Engineer and answer specific tech related questions. This is usually 30 minutes, used to asses your knowledge in a specific domain. 3 - Take home online coding challenge, if the Engineer likes you, you get to the third round, an online 1 hour timed coding challenge. 4 - Live coding challenge. If you do well in the online coding challenge, you will be put through a live 1 hour coding challenge. 5 - Live Behavioral Interview. Once you're done with the live coding challenge, you'll have a 1 hour behavioral round where they dig into your past experience and ask you about how you handled certain situations. 6 - Live System Design Interview. If they like you in the behavioral round, you'll be put into another 1 hour live interview about System Design, where they ask you design a System for any specific part of the product. All in all, some Companies have 4 rounds of interviews, some have 6, especially for more senior roles. So yes, if you choose to pursue Software Engineering as a career, be prepared to go through the grueling and brutal process of job hunting, and 4 to 6 rounds of interview rounds before you can even land a job.
@wepid3426
@wepid3426 6 сағат бұрын
3 graduate electrical engineering courses I wish I had just a fraction of my husband's freetime while he works full time.... I'm burnt out I'll probably leave tech Straight As and about to graduate. 8/10 courses complete
@ebere3061
@ebere3061 7 сағат бұрын
As an international student that’s still in school I definitely agree with you on the leetcode stuff. I’m currently taking 4 science courses and working 2 jobs. I am in the industry a bit since I got extended part time on my internship. I basically don’t have time to work on distributes systems assignments, go to my internship, work on other school assignments, study for test and examples, go to my second job not to talk about work on a personal project I’m currently coding that’s impactful. Leetcode is definitely not the best way to filter out candidates.
@hockeymikey
@hockeymikey Сағат бұрын
You're part of the problem.
@ebere3061
@ebere3061 Сағат бұрын
@@hockeymikey In what way?
@hockeymikey
@hockeymikey Сағат бұрын
@@ebere3061 Saturation of the labor pool.
@harryzhu
@harryzhu 2 сағат бұрын
CS Grad with 4 internships here. 900 apps since october 2023. I took risks but has not paid off yet. I've been unemployed for two months now. I still have hope for myself.
@Wassap133
@Wassap133 10 сағат бұрын
Its gg for programmers
@RR-et6zp
@RR-et6zp 9 сағат бұрын
the pony tail squad in charge of HR / hiring is a problem
@aliceryan7053
@aliceryan7053 9 сағат бұрын
Maybe it's because dev salaries are no longer able to be written off on the company's taxes so it's much harder to be hired because companies want their best choice that just became 120000x more expensive than it was before. Out of touch HR is a problem in every field, not just swe.
@hurstilthymy4943
@hurstilthymy4943 8 сағат бұрын
Just say it plainly: white women
@RecapWorldTV
@RecapWorldTV 4 сағат бұрын
You need to just start your own company at this point. I don’t see getting another job as the answer.
@MattRodriguez-h7j
@MattRodriguez-h7j 6 сағат бұрын
Everyone needs to take a 200 usd consulting session to figure out the way forward
@hockeymikey
@hockeymikey Сағат бұрын
What?
@BangMaster96
@BangMaster96 5 минут бұрын
What the hell are you even talking about ?
@simple5636
@simple5636 9 сағат бұрын
What is your new job ?
@JamilaJibril-e8h
@JamilaJibril-e8h 2 сағат бұрын
✋😔...
@the_tanktb977
@the_tanktb977 9 сағат бұрын
yo this thoroughly accurate bro…
@tottiegod8021
@tottiegod8021 9 сағат бұрын
I'm on the other side of this. We have been hiring this year, but our company is slow to fire. We are having a hard time finding quality candidates. We do NOT put candidates through leet code but ask them to do a 4-hour take-home test as an alternative.
@aj-jc4cv
@aj-jc4cv 8 сағат бұрын
@tottiegod8021 do you give feedback, if not why?
@kevinwang3309
@kevinwang3309 7 сағат бұрын
Honestly, no good developer will tolerate a 4 hour take-home. Actual interviews are much better use of time.
@tottiegod8021
@tottiegod8021 7 сағат бұрын
@@aj-jc4cv Great question -- our HR replies to candidates so I don't know exactly what is said. We cannot formally say too much for fear of litigation. Most companies discourage and sometimes even outright ban providing feedback. During interviews, I primarily provide feedback when a candidate says "I don't know" or it's clear that they are guessing. Additionally, if we get the sense that it isn't going anywhere, I keep the interview going for a few more questions and attempt to ask them in a way that helps the candidate on their journey. FWIW our questions mirror our expectations of Senior/Lead developers. i.e. You have an API endpoint producing a report in 30 seconds but desire it to run in fewer than 10 seconds, what are the steps you will take to isolate the issue? This leads us into database territory where we ask about debugging code, debugging an ORM, or running the execution plan in SQL to determine if you're performing seeks or scans.
@tottiegod8021
@tottiegod8021 7 сағат бұрын
​@@kevinwang3309 This is a reason we perform a screening round initially because asking for a take-home right away is just wrong. If you're good you could complete our take-home in 2 hours. The extent is making an API call to retrieve data, executing some basic fictitious business logic, writing a few tests, and then returning the data back via an API. Pick your poison: leet code OR take-home OR 5+ rounds of interviews.
@tobybridle
@tobybridle 2 сағат бұрын
Hey, any chance the position is entry-level/junior? :)
@aquilafasciata5781
@aquilafasciata5781 4 сағат бұрын
As someone who has no college degree; let me tell you it is next to impossible to get in front of any interviewers.
@anthonyoleinik6472
@anthonyoleinik6472 8 сағат бұрын
Congrats on the job hop. Did you switch from finance to big tech or did you stay in finance? This would make a good video
@aquibalikhan6930
@aquibalikhan6930 3 сағат бұрын
hey jesus i have 1 year to find a job with a visa sponsorship...is it possible? I'm a 3 year experience person as a ML engineer
@robertmazurowski5974
@robertmazurowski5974 5 сағат бұрын
I just got a job but it was tough. I am a contractor via a third party for google though :) Right now be happy you have a job, I did not have a job and much savings as the web3 startup layed me off when Crypto markets crashed in September. Oh and the interview was 7 stages :)
@p19shelt
@p19shelt 3 сағат бұрын
7 stages is crazy...
@ivankerezov9635
@ivankerezov9635 6 сағат бұрын
Start buying and holding bitcoin guys. Work mainly for that. You will be working poor class otherwise
@swattertroops-yaaa
@swattertroops-yaaa 7 сағат бұрын
its not about "companies" its normal people like us making these stupid processes.
@PurpleMiniMoose
@PurpleMiniMoose 6 сағат бұрын
I think all of us CS majors agree that leetcode isn’t a good way to hire lol but I would’ve liked to have heard how you think companies should hire
@rogermarin1712
@rogermarin1712 2 сағат бұрын
How are these practices legal? This should be taken to court.
@kl3664
@kl3664 2 сағат бұрын
Companies that ghost you do so because they fear any interaction can cause them to be sued. Incentive structures drive behavior.
@HarmonyPeaceUnity
@HarmonyPeaceUnity Сағат бұрын
Its companies yes, but ultimately its hiring managers being too picky maybe to secure themselves
@8londeau
@8londeau 32 минут бұрын
tech is cooked my dude. no responses, ghosting, ATS, lower salaries for more qualificaitons. ruf out there fr once flew across the country for a round. No immediate feedback. 2 days later email in my inbox saying they chose someone else. asked for feedback... none.
@OldTomato44
@OldTomato44 4 сағат бұрын
I think one solution that isn't being mentioned much is: entrepreneurship. More coders should be using their skills to build things they want to build, solve real world problems, create new games/products that they personally want to see, etc., and sell their creations. We need to stop hoping to skim off the safe, established, but rotting institutions.
@ryanburryy
@ryanburryy 3 сағат бұрын
agreed. makes more jobs as well
@monterreymxisfun3627
@monterreymxisfun3627 6 сағат бұрын
Interesting: The filters would seem to qualify people that have a job AND lots of time of their hands. In other words, a slacker at work.
@maryamzibaeifard
@maryamzibaeifard Сағат бұрын
The golden age of tech jobs is over. Too much headache for ordinary payments and low job security.
@shosetsuninja3112
@shosetsuninja3112 3 сағат бұрын
I'd rather build my own stuff than do 8 rounds for an opportunity to help a big corp sell ads.
@JoshtheFifith
@JoshtheFifith 2 сағат бұрын
we need more glass door interview ratings
@The_Quaalude
@The_Quaalude 6 сағат бұрын
America told students to learn to code, and now AI screwed everyone 😂
@notsojharedtroll23
@notsojharedtroll23 3 сағат бұрын
*learn AI
@Ripcraze
@Ripcraze 7 сағат бұрын
Multiple rounds of interviews for a job is so stupid, u better be paying top dollar
@hellish.racoon69
@hellish.racoon69 7 сағат бұрын
Some solid logic here bro
@nothingtoseehere449
@nothingtoseehere449 8 сағат бұрын
Yep this is true the r/csMajors subreddit used to be positive now its doom posting central
@wstdonwiteout
@wstdonwiteout 4 сағат бұрын
So much truth in this
@davidsullivan4449
@davidsullivan4449 4 сағат бұрын
The only interview I could get was at the local police station about my bald tires.
@ConstantinosPapi
@ConstantinosPapi 7 сағат бұрын
I had so much passion and drive for programming since young age and still today I really like it ... but I really need a job to survive you know ... otherwise I will go make coffee and cocktails ( I like it )
@IamAWESOME3980
@IamAWESOME3980 5 сағат бұрын
I worship coding jesus
@BankingITResearcher
@BankingITResearcher 10 сағат бұрын
I ready the US transfer And my major is Cyber Sec , AI sec , Economics, businesses I watched your videos that is greatest chance for me Opportunities nicely Good good good
@SukraatAhluwalia
@SukraatAhluwalia 9 сағат бұрын
"boomerpilled" LMAO!
@ShawnOfTheDead-v6o
@ShawnOfTheDead-v6o 4 сағат бұрын
Yep, it is hard.... Too much supply, too high demand, job holders are pickier... they raise the bar. When they were mass hiring, they were less picky, they tool unqualified people for sr staff positions at FAANG
@johndutton349
@johndutton349 4 сағат бұрын
People complaining now about Leetcode are the same that during "good times" were looking down upon candidates who failed their interviews. Karma is a bitch. Hopefully tech bros will learn a lesson in humility, although I doubt...it requires some emotional intelligence, that many are lacking.
@Karg537
@Karg537 Сағат бұрын
True
@Deathors
@Deathors 6 сағат бұрын
Turns out guys, that you just need to lie with resume and then at inverview and it works then
@p19shelt
@p19shelt 3 сағат бұрын
Can't fake a test 🤣
@shezyam460
@shezyam460 2 сағат бұрын
@@p19shelt you'd be surprised 💀
@BizzaroBrainBoi
@BizzaroBrainBoi 2 сағат бұрын
you should make ur own company
@LukeAvedon
@LukeAvedon 9 сағат бұрын
Really great advice Jesus. Not your typical take on the job changing process.
@MattRodriguez-h7j
@MattRodriguez-h7j 6 сағат бұрын
Every single penny saved goes towards AI. AI is costly
@glorgau
@glorgau 5 сағат бұрын
5 rounds of interviews? Skip. Those are people with time and life to waste.
@conormcgregor.7333
@conormcgregor.7333 6 сағат бұрын
Just think these people have lived through a downturn in the economy yet. lol
@mishanotmisha
@mishanotmisha 2 сағат бұрын
US tech market: it could be better Ukrainian tech market: hold my beer
@DevOps691
@DevOps691 Сағат бұрын
Oreshnik: hold my beer
@RaffaelloBertini
@RaffaelloBertini 4 сағат бұрын
At least you're in US that's still is the best tech market in the world. Italy for e.g. didn't never had a good tech market and it will never had. Plus there are no jobs at all for skilled people. No skilled migrants exists only mostly illegal immigrants and criminals... So still is good if you want my half of the glass is full point of view.
@nbktechworld
@nbktechworld 6 сағат бұрын
Difficult times
@2GGop
@2GGop 3 сағат бұрын
Don't work for big tech companies. Be ok with 150K a year and you won't need to know shit about networking, architecture, concurrency lol
@animal-lover--
@animal-lover-- 3 сағат бұрын
milady
@botbeamer
@botbeamer 2 сағат бұрын
Tech is not for you, sorry !
@MMARavid
@MMARavid 4 сағат бұрын
qUIT CRYIN
@ilovecatsandgyat
@ilovecatsandgyat 6 сағат бұрын
just move to a country with a better job market lol
@LooksGoodMusic
@LooksGoodMusic Сағат бұрын
Nah hiring is picking up. As always it’s super hard to find good engineers, if you are one you can find a good job
@RolopIsHere
@RolopIsHere Минут бұрын
You are boomerpilled.
@kayleighsinnott6655
@kayleighsinnott6655 6 сағат бұрын
If you think the US job market is bad.... You don't even wanna come over here to the UK
@TheRealDyscyples
@TheRealDyscyples 10 сағат бұрын
Not the first comment
@pablovaldes2397
@pablovaldes2397 9 сағат бұрын
the tech market is finally good for once, it's finally a bit competitive
@solomon1453
@solomon1453 6 сағат бұрын
basically, companies dgaf anymore. just wanna make more $$$$$$$
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