The Vector Theory That Changes Despicable Me

[@JustADioWhosAHeroForFun]

The real question is how Vector can commit crime in both direction and magnitude

[@TheTheorizer]

Because he's got than skinny thiccness

[@generichomosapien4666]

*Screams in vector*

[@erven4360]

The Theorizer that makes so much since

[@generichomosapien4666]

Vector is both skinny and thicc

[@Fun-K-Board]

@@TheTheorizer T H I C C B O I

[@reportedbooch697]

Just your daily reminder Vector has been trapped on the moon for nearly TEN YEARS

[@Fishcrab]

The movie came out in 2010 though.

[@supaa4512]

Nah I would say maximum a year. The girls haven't aged at all in the 3 despicable me movies so I would say all the events in the 3 movies happened in the span of 1 year

[@MiloMurphysLaw]

iRealZeta yeah once they start aging, then I’ll wonder if he’s still alive. But if they keep doing prequels then for all we know no time has passed since the end of DM3

[@mrcritical6751]

I’d say at least 1 year has passed between Despicable Me 2 and 3 as Gru and Lucy needed to date for a good amount of time

[@MiloMurphysLaw]

Thanos The Mad Titan well I just watched the first 2 movies yesterday and it turns out there was about a year between 2 and 3. So I wonder how he survived for so long with no food or water. And come to think of it, that little bubble thing only has a limited supply of air. It’s not like he can just put a bubble on his head and have infinite oxygen.

[@almachizit3207]

Urgh, I hate this. I just realised that Vector pulled of a *pyramid* scheme.

[@Amethyst_Topaz]

Yes.

[@tinniesealjiji]

but of course

[@alexkuhn5188]

Oh god, that is probably an intentional hidden joke.

[@itsclemtime2357]

Alma Chizit Younique who?

[@theshadowyparasite9448]

"Oh yeah!"

[@samurexatlas7373]

"I know it'll be debunked in the Rise of Gru" It was everything but, Gru found Nefario at a previous villain organization, helping the boy. Changing the tides of villainy.

[@unrulybot1352]

We've been played like a fool, he's not insane he's evil and we fell for his trap *WHERE* *WILL* *HE* *STRIKE* *NEXT* ???

[@skycohen7096]

He’s Probably going to strike Mort next

[@SpaceDave1337]

Space Space SSPPPPPPAAAAAAAAAAAAACCCCEEEEEEE

[@unrulybot1352]

@@SpaceDave1337 did you just said SSSSPPAAAACCCCCEEEE!!!!!!!!!

[@ThatOneSka]

SPAAAAACCCEEEE

[@unrulybot1352]

@Moonly Moon I am now passing Jupiter, I don't know where wheatly is

[@jean3947]

I always thought that maybe Miss Hattie owed the bank of evil money. Like maybe she tried to make it as a villain but couldn't, and so left with an outstanding loan that was probably to pay for her building (formerly her secret lair), she opened an orphanage so she could claim taxes on it and get paid by the government, and then used it as a front to slowly pay back her loan through seemingly innocent acts such as selling cookies. That's why she's so insistent on the girls meeting their sales targets; the less they sell the longer she'll take to pay it back, and the more interest she'll owe.

[@queendsheena1]

I'm so glad you discussed Vector and the bank of evil. The lore of Despicable Me has so many layers.

[@melonmunky4570]

Ikr

[@Amethyst_Topaz]

Like onions and ogres

[@mihaivraciu7361]

LIKE THE OnIoN bOy !

[@shadowgamer4306]

queendsheena1 he should do more despicable me theories. Maybe one on the third movie aswell. They are so interesting to watch.

[@JChristiansenLuckythebrony2222]

The main theme song of the series is from Gru's perspective and it's extended version contains the lyrics: "Why does Vector think that he's smart, _and does his dad know I know his part?_ " If it's to be taken as hints to the lore, Gru *knows that something* is going on.

[@sonnyfox60]

One thing in your miss Hattie theory I found is that el machos son goes to salsa salsa too get a cookie. He gets everything free in a restaurant and chooses cookies, they must be really good. Miss Hattie sells cookies that judging by the amount that vector buys are really good. There could be a connection here but I dunno Edit: 200 yay😃 Edit 2: cookies is also a weird thing for both an orphanage and a salsa restaurant to sell.

[@JwGacey1]

a good theory your prob right

[@sonnyfox60]

JwGacey1 thanks.

[@Fun-K-Board]

:O that makes sense, why are you so smart!

[@mrvespuccia.k.ameganite1747]

Theory:the cookies miss Hattie sales have traces of cocaine and weed in them and her orphaning is a front for her drug dealing

[@thermonuclearexplosive]

bruh ur wrong his name is el nacho

[@elizahamilton7241]

If they all share a universe, does that mean that the carnival they went to in the first film ( to get the unicorn) could be near the farm that took place in secret life of pets 2?

[@nahhhhhhhh271]

No that’s a boredwalk

[@violetneedsahug3652]

EliIiiIiiiiIizaaAaA

[@lancehackman6304]

@@violetneedsahug3652 AND PEGGY

[@Amethyst_Topaz]

@@lancehackman6304 The Schuyler sisters.

[@lancehackman6304]

@@Amethyst_Topaz Angelica, Peggy, Eliza! (work!)

[@AGamingDinosaur]

So basically you're saying that the world got *V E C T O R E D*

[@TORTILLA_DOG_STUDIOS]

🫡 Affirmative Sir. 🫡

[@AverytheCubanAmerican]

We can’t let someone steal the Moon, we need its cheese

[@jamesmack8357]

GROMIT!

[@Dice-goblin]

Evening Gromit

[@jackiewestphal6748]

Evening gromet

[@Fun-K-Board]

O H M Y G O D-

[@intangerbline3683]

Fair enough.

[@simbacartoonfan2787]

Who is Vector’s Mother that is a could mother day special theory

[@maninthetrenchcoat5603]

He subtly hinted that it may've been Ms. Hattie.

[@simbacartoonfan2787]

Professor Nichols I means the Origins story ,Family tree and Timeline of the Perkins Family

[@BigTimeRush14100]

I believe and theorize that it's the couple from the Minion movie that takes place in the 70's. the kid kinda reminds me of Stu

[@thermonuclearexplosive]

vector doesnt have a mother, his dad went through mitosis

[@theo866]

Plot twist, imagine if Vector and Gru were half brothers

[@generichomosapien4666]

At this exact moment, we are mostly watching at the same time

[@vosskambassador7733]

Yes?

[@generichomosapien4666]

Im at about 6:00

[@creativename2959]

hiii

[@Moodles-]

Oh my gosh! yeah

[@pbcj3635]

Hey, y'all!

[@littlehalf4796]

Imagine Illumination is watching this now

[@tinycomedian]

Imagine them trying to use this in all of their films

[@sonnyfox60]

We could do this very clever concept but that’ll take effort. Let’s just recreate shrek but take any clever comedy out with farts and instead of using relevant pop culture music just have some singer jumble some words together. That’ll be just as good as let it go right

[@d4she742]

Vector T-posing scares me

[@this_zucchini_2789]

Get VECTORED

[@kingme1313]

This is the true theory: You're a mad man that wants to make ridiculous theories that hypnotize people to subscribe, like, ring the notification bell and become rich. And I fully support it!

[@flynnwhimster5371]

Here's a question. How does Theorizer become rich? I barely tolerated dark theories anyway

[@kingme1313]

@@flynnwhimster5371 well you still watched the theory didn't you :P there's your answer

[@kalibuskristof2174]

Not so easy now is it?

[@Fun-K-Board]

Vector lowkey looks like me when I was 7, but he has crappier hair.

[@Leorain123]

I know this video is 4 years old but... in rise of gru the bank of evil own was just a worker in the past and he shows us that vector was born around the same time as gru. Even though vector is supposed to be younger than him.

[@BeeManYTYT]

yeah it really bothered me when they showed the picture of vector bc it literally made no sense.

[@tree7010]

Here’s something for you to look at In zootopia they say that nick gave mr big a rug made out of the butt of a skunk. But a skunk is mammal. All mammals in this movie are anthropomorphic. how would he have gotten a skunk fur rug?

[@fiveoclock7829]

homocide. It's pretty simple.

[@mihaivraciu7361]

Me saying it in the backround : hold...up

[@attack_br8k]

Makes sense

[@DpDepresso]

Underground things, it could’ve been taken from a grave (we never see them anywhere in zootopia, but we do know the animals must age and die.) Or animals can much like in the dark web sell themselves to be made into things, this could also work with a more innocent thought, that they merely shave the fur off of them (they volunteer for it or just do it as a side job) and proceed to use more friendly methods of making a rug. I’ve always wondered where the reptiles, and aquatic life went. Are they merely livestock? Why are there only mammals? What caused the animals in zootopia to make this leap of evolution or mutation or whatever to leave all other animal types behind?

[@asherhockersmith8271]

@@DpDepresso what if the dead bodies are given to the carnivores

[@darkwolf24498]

This is why I love watching him. He makes me rethink everything I know.

[@driveasandwich6734]

Fun fact: the dot inside the "O" in the logo makes it the symbol for a Bilabial Click, so it should be pronounced "the the(mwa)rizer".

[@okimightcomeback]

The themwarizer

[@Zyrdalf]

Perhaps the real theorizer has been replaced with a fake by the lizardmen.

[@beeveetheories1330]

"An evil syndicate that has been around for a long time" sounds like the illuminati

[@toniosoflyy]

Such a missed opportunity for Illumination to not use Vector’s dad as the villain

[@queensara8554]

I was waiting for a theory on more despicable me! I haven’t finished it yet but I can tell it’s great!

[@SpookyKhano]

plot twist: gru's neighbor in the first movie is the spy for the bank of evil.

[@kenthuang436]

Are we all just going to ignore the fact that Miss Hattie has the same exact voice as Lucy? I don’t mind if a voice actor has a different role but they make the second character sound completely different. With Lucy and Hattie there is absolutely no difference between the two. So what if Hattie and Lucy were actually the same exact person with Hattie being a disguise for Lucy. This would explain why she was so willing to work with Gru in the second movie and bonded with the girls so quickly. She already knew them but they didn’t know it because up to the point that the girls met Lucy they only knew her as Miss Hattie.

[@sarahberkner]

I don't remember Lucy having a southern accent. I actually didn't know Miss Hattie was also voiced by Kristen Wiig, I totally would have believed the voice actress looked like the character in real life.

[@icaricc]

I like how you take their laziness as shared universe with the news guy lol

[@TheTheorizer]

I know-- This is what I'm forced to live through: Filling Plot Holes FOR them lol

[@icaricc]

@@TheTheorizer a tough task you have put upon yourself

[@vosskambassador7733]

I hope you are ok after your first few mort theories ,Even I who binged it 4 times has no f-cking clue what the hell is going on with mort

[@fiveoclock7829]

does anyone, really?

[@Anna-ue4sg]

I actually quite like it when you first start with the crazy bomb dropping theory and then start explaining bc I start at a point of utter confusion but very intrigued and slowly start understanding your point till it goes all round and becomes a full whole and perfectly explanatory theory and then you get the euphoria of actually understanding it😂

[@TheTheorizer]

Well that’s why I like it too! But passerbys certainly don’t see it that way lol

[@Anna-ue4sg]

@@TheTheorizer yeah I’ve noticed I guess I just have a chaotic energy or something😂 but I like it!

[@kalh2389]

Next theory why the hell is vector so *THICC*

[@SparkTheSnorlax]

Bruh I was just rewatching your old theories lol.

[@blankcruz257]

Maybe the tv guy is talking about gru’s dad and I think that’s why mr Perkins hates him because his son won’t be the greatest villain like vector said

[@redpanda1334]

In despicable me 1 you can see the crown gru stole in minions

[@TheTheorizer]

I made a theory on that

[@redpanda1334]

@@TheTheorizer i didnt know that

[@gracekim1998]

The Theorizer sweet

[@GeorgeTheDinoGuy]

Congratulations on 700k! I’m so happy you’ve grown this much and your research is paying off!

[@ryleyfrost2887]

what if Hattie trained the girls to spy on gru for the AVL and they are the spies? it could explain why Edith can handle guns in the final fight of the second movie.

[@DavidRamirez-se2yt]

I think only Edith is a spy, Marco and Agnes are More attached to gru and less interested in general and fatal mayhem.

[@FanaticQuill250]

The Theorizer is a Darker version of Game and Movie Theory from MatPat, and you can't change my mind

[@Mil_Spec_Spartan_]

how the Bank of Evil hasn’t become the main villain in the DM series is mind boggling

[@evelinnagy1059]

I'm still waiting for the Mort theory😂😂😂 Those videos were the reason I started watching the show😊

[@MC_CN]

1:25 "Oh, you're a theorist alright... just not a super one!" "Oh yeah? What's the difference?" *"Presentation!"*

[@Just_Shaun]

The real question is gru and his insane reaction speed, strength

[@melonmunky4570]

He gets tazed by a lipstick tazer so no that good reaction

[@Zero-nm3gp]

MelonMunky he also dogged a bunch of rockets by jumping/rolling through them

[@melonmunky4570]

@@Zero-nm3gp true but I could do that with 1 weeks training

[@Zero-nm3gp]

MelonMunky I’d honestly like to see anyone manage to do that

[@melonmunky4570]

@@Zero-nm3gp ok lmao I'll try

[@darthwatermelon6925]

Did i just get vectored

[@kingblob1788]

Yes...

[@mihaivraciu7361]

We all got

[@sonnyfox60]

Oh yeah

[@EddyNjuguna]

The real question is how Vector can commit crime in both direction and magnitude

[@iamjustadesk]

Getting a frozen 2 doll ad in the middle of this video really ruins the immersion

[@darrenbarber1793]

Don’t know if you saw this thoeriser but look on the left row on the left side of the paintings of miss hatties wall look like ohair or the costume designer from the incredibles maybe shes working for the bank of evil spying to collect intelligence for bank also sory for speling I’m dyslexic

[@zodiakgames]

I hope the theorizer one does a video on the theorizer videos, trying to label the theorizer as a manipulative mastermind

[@TheTheorizer]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/qKjHaZaBm7aghcUsi=B0RSb1cxL8jfpF1B

[@robotic3gg]

@@TheTheorizer lol

[@sarahberkner]

Vector's dad trying to make him look like a great villain makes so much sense. Darn nepotism.

[@snookerdooker471]

4:11 Minions the rise of gru literally confirmed this by having gru as a kid rob the bank of evil in San Francisco or somewhere near it with wild knuckles.

[@S1gnalC0]

Hey theorizer, you are my favorite youtuber right now. Your videos are awesome and they all make sense. The first videos I watched of you were your coraline ones

[@Bozito6]

HOW HAVE I ONLY JUST DISCOVERED YOUR CHANNEL!!!! this is an untapped goldmine of videos that i'm too intrigued by to properly put on in the background while I do other stuff. I will not have to suffer the thoughts of "Ugh theres nothing interesting that I haven't already seen" for at least a month

[@austriahungary4935]

But the real question is. What happened to vector after despicable me 1? did he escaped the moon? Did he died? We will never know.

[@Riverrocks777]

He’s still alive probably waiting for rescue

[@hunterlawrence3573]

He became the Man on the Moon

[@austriahungary4935]

@@Riverrocks777 Well the thing is that he had limited oxygen. so maybe he died but we never know If he got rescued or not. AND YES IM COMMENTING YOU AFTER 6 MONTHS

[@austriahungary4935]

@@hunterlawrence3573 he had limited oxygen.

[@hunterlawrence3573]

@@austriahungary4935 Didn’t stop the minion

[@caracol764]

Now i want a movie about this plot line...

[@LEMONSPatusky]

“Pyramid scheme” oh boy that was good.

[@moorek1357]

No matter how much I watch your content it is always ENJOYABLE!!!!!! I love your channel!!!!!! And the intro always gets me excited!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻😁😁

[@ethanb9981]

Congrats on 700k! Keep theorizing!

[@legallypumpkin]

Turns out in the rise of gru movie, Vector is related (I forget how) to the bankteller

[@mryeeguy]

Wasn’t vector always known to be his son though

[@legallypumpkin]

@@mryeeguy he was?? I genuinely didn’t remember this ^^; I’ll look that up!

[@legallypumpkin]

@@mryeeguy I found the clip where Gru meets Vector and Perkins acts as if he never knew him ^^ maybe I missed something?

[@greatape8019]

perkins didnt want gru to know vector was his son ​@@legallypumpkin

[@wills_corner]

I can commit crime in direction. I can commit crime in magnitude. But I can't do both. Vector beats me there

[@Lucky10279]

You can tell he's just do excited about this theory. Looking forward to more _Dispicable Me_ theories @The Theorizer!

[@poopyinmydiaper3654]

Ok but,who’s gonna talk about how some of the pictures are CREPPY??🤷🏾‍♀️🤔😭😅

[@Bugwaterbugwaterbugwater1]

That is how all of his videoes are

[@decaying.fairyy]

Hey dude your amazing love your channel...your a different type of crazy...The good type love ya ♥

[@Ace_de_Arabia]

"How did gru meet nefario" I forgot this was posted 4 years ago

[@doodlelifeproductions1630]

When I watched this, my light started to flicker.

[@AvitalShtap]

Oh man YES I love the Despicable Me series and I'm so glad you made this

[@johnslade9751]

Man its been so long. I miss your vids man. Good shit

[@AGamingDinosaur]

Yes my guy Vector, committing crimes with DIRECTION and MAGNITUDE

[@angelwayne2872]

Congrats on 700K subs

[@JAProductions494]

I’m glad that you finally sound normal once again 😂

[@willowthesumner]

Wait... thi- this isn’t MORT!

[@herobrine8763og]

this theorizzler guy is onto something

[@pacificus66]

Your theories give me chills of excitement.

[@adammyers7383]

Honestly as the Despicable Me franchise goes forward, I’m hoping the entire Gru Clan will go to Villainy. Clearly they don’t fit in nearly as well with the so-called “heroes”. Obviously Gru has a slightly different set of priorities now, but I still think the whole family would have more fun if they embraced the criminal life with open arms. It suits them far better.

[@bland3145]

Hey Theroizer! I enjoy your content keep up your work

[@justsomejerseydevilwithint4606]

13:05 God, my brain has been corrupted by Mort Theory. Every time The French come up, I have to check if it's a Dreamworks film, to make sure this isn't another extension of the F.E.E.T. People who haven't seen the Mort Theory will think I'm crazy, but you've more than proven your Mortiverse. May the skygods have mercy on us all, for Mort has None.

[@pittsburghpirateshat8950]

The minions movie may have gone against some established things in the first despicable me movie, but arguably that doesn't matter. Minions although probably the weakest link in the franchise also greatly expands on the lore of the franchise we can see both a young Gru and a young Doctor Nefario. Also the theorizer pointed out in this video given how long the minions have been working with villains it's possible the bank of evil has been around for a lot longer then we think. Maybe they had something to do with Gru getting the minions in the first place.

[@rae_rae1118]

2:32 reminds me of Coraline's dad...

[@KorocDM]

Me: only watching with half paying attention. The Theorizer when I revert my attention: You watch them in their entirety or you don't watch them at all! Me: ... now I feel called out XD

[@BrothersWebOfficial]

Would you consider do a video on Gru's kids, on who are the true parents of each kid? I don't even know how much you could do with it, but I think you could do it! You kill it! -Luke

[@rashidacollins3741]

This comment has nothing to do with this theory, but I just want to put it out there because it’s been on my mind for years now. I swear that in the first movie, Gru goes into Dr. Nefario’s lab, and on a wall in the lab there is a blue print that shows a minion on it. I don’t know if it’s real, and I haven’t watched the first movie in a while, but I swear there was a blue print showing the creation of the minions. I just needed to get that off my mind so others can see. Thanks for your time, and great video.

[@sirnutaku7716]

I literally rewatched the despicable me theories last week

[@tbjoshua8941]

Cool video thanks theorizer

[@Z2Y6-d4i]

0:13 flood escape music

[@JRS06]

It took me a stupidly long time to realise that you can see the Great Pyramid behind Vector's lair. For whatever reason, kid me just thought he had a pyramid painted like the sky for no reason.

[@OhBuddyBoi]

It’s possible Herb can be Vector’s dad, because according to wiki fandom Herb was 42 and Scarlet was 41 in the minions movie. Therefore, in present day it shows Scarlet is 93, meaning Herb would be 94. Vector is in his 20s, meaning Scarlet and Herb would be in their 70s by the time Vector was born. It’s possible they gave Vector up for adoption and Mr. Perkins adopted him

[@sophiacantu1198]

I thought herb resembled vector in some ways but who knows but i always thought maybe mr.Perkins is herb? I might have missed a part in the minions movie but when I looked up “Mr.Perkins” it says he is in Despicable me and the minions movie but I don’t remember seeing him on the minions movie.

[@deshawnedwards6412]

Hey Theorizer, what about a theory around the possibility that the gurls (or maybe just one of them) may turn evil and may the next villian in the 4th Despicable Me?

[@maninthetrenchcoat5603]

Fun, but unlikely given that the next Dispicable Me is a prequel. But most likely, it'd be Edith.

[@47ratsinahoodie]

@@maninthetrenchcoat5603 Are you referring to a Despicable Me 4 or Minions 2? If it's the former, why the fuck would Illumination torture us with a useless prequel to Despicable Me 😭 If it's the latter, forget I said anything. But I personally think it'd be Margo. Edith would be too obvious.

[@Fishcrab]

@@47ratsinahoodie there is going to be a minions 2 the rise of gru.

[@Amethyst_Topaz]

*gorls

[@MiloMurphysLaw]

Hooded Raire imagine if they did that and have Despicable Me 4 end at the beginning of the first movie, then they do Minions 3 which ends where Despicable Me 4 started, then they do Despicable Me 5 which takes place like 5 years after the end of Despicable Me 3 and then Minions 4 takes place in between Despicable 3 and Despicable 5

[@sheevhernandez3869]

Since the new prequal for gru had been out for a while now, I have a odd theory about grus dad; what if his dad was killed off by the bank of evil to get revenge for vector being stuck on the moon and gru doing the moon heist than vector? And somehow made dru, grus brother think he died normally and had his memory erased so maybe gru won't know that the bank of evil killed his legendary dad or whatnot? Idk it's just a random thought but it feels like they could do that somewhere between movie 1,2, or 3. Also make another video on disipicale me.😀

[@emory4745]

So just wanna let you know that thanks to the Mort series you've created, I may or may not have been invited to join an Instagram cult surrounding Mort. Almost everyone in the cult have changed their profile pictures to some bizarre picture of Mort. The motives and morals of said cult are not yet clear, but from what I've gathered, Mort is possibly seen as a deity of sorts? All I know is that my loved ones won't be harmed if I decide to leave. Anyways.... Thanks?

[@izzysauls7737]

Bro...share the group

[@TheAnimeEncyclopedia]

Where

[@emory4745]

@@TheAnimeEncyclopedia It was in my friend group

[@catzy2707]

Another amazing theory and yet again u sold me XD

[@Thecraziestgamerz]

I love your theories, you never miss out on anything

[@damdog74]

Wait it’s all Vector? Always has been

[@Amethyst_Topaz]

lol

[@lordcthulhu4123]

Fact

[@TheCursedCake]

Time to bring in the VECTOR GRIMWALKER THEORY

[@Nombre_Nombre_Cuenca]

Hold up.... WHAT!? There's another despicable me movie coming out?

[@gracekim1998]

Yes and it’s about Gru’s childhood

[@Jonny-nw7wl]

Maybe Miss Hattie is training the girls to be villains.Maybe Scarlet Overkill was trained there aswell

[@astralprophecy2419]

You've made me see the Despicable Me in a totally new light, thanks!

[@ArgonOil]

the theorizer is the uncle of everyone's crazy conspiracy-obsessed uncle

[@TheTheorizer]

I’m the grand uncle of grand uncles

[@ArgonOil]

@@TheTheorizer yes the grandest of all

[@jwalster9412]

Gotta be honest, forgot you existed until this was in my recommendations.

[@andrews4717]

Palpatine is alive in Rise if Gru-walker

[@gamersinacontainer]

A series of mini theories that can't be made into a full series would be awesome!

[@thenonfictionalexplainer952]

Thanks man I didnt want to sleep tonight so thank you. I'm serious I can not sleep after seeing that

[@TheTheorizer]

In that case, I'd recommend at least watching the first minute of my latest upload

[@pegagatorgal_lps4]

I don't like illumination... i think they are a piece of landfill, BUT I LOVE YOUR THEORIES

[@kizistuidios9284]

If your looking for theory ideas theres a game that has hidden lore and people haven't really done to many theories on it on KZbin its called my singing monsters

[@victormezynski9727]

NO

[@MS-zb2ht]

@@victormezynski9727 Yes!!!!