The Vicious Story Of Shana Grice

[@JacobSever]

We must have different definitions of "rugged" and "handsome". That's one of the harshest looking 26 year olds I've ever seen.

[@chonkcat7362]

ikr. Looks mid to late 30's.

[@ekbanks]

😂😅😂😅 I'm thinking to myself this guy has no muscle definition and no striking features so what is making him so "handsome" but because I'm a man I figured I'd just keep that to myself.

[@sasha-qk7kx]

😂I need to go for a eye test, i think he looks rough, definitely not handsome ,

[@GeOsmomGina]

I'm 53, and I'm look younger than him. He's far from rugged and handsome. He isn't even good-looking.

[@crishuez]

He's hideous inside and out

[@angelsgranny]

He definitely made sure she'd never contact him again. Thank God the judge had the good sense to call out those terrible cops. It's a shame he wasn't sentenced to life without parole, because we all know prison will not rehabilitate him.

[@TheJcris87]

Prison isn't a rehabilitation, that's why. It's a deterrent and a punishment. That's it.

[@markhinton6953]

I agree! He will have a new target within days of him being out.

[@AlexTechie]

The bitch was a cheater and a liar, so naturally everyone sympathizes with her.

[@gregoryholstein3033]

@@markhinton6953 Yes, you’re right Mark, that’s how these W⚓️‘S operate. Cheers.

[@LovePrettyNailsLady-Jay80]

Yup. The judge even said he was lacking remorse. Time won't rehabilitate a narcissist. Grossly disturbing that he can be set free in 25 years, maybe even less. This dude is despicable

[@johncook9392]

I'll never understand people's need to be controlling or stalking... I'm FAR too lazy for all that nonsense!

[@icantthinkofaname15]

Soooooo if you weren't lazy you would stalk?? Lol

[@africanhistory]

It is mentally draining for the stalker also

[@jenniferc5058]

Good thing this video isn’t about you.

[@shila8379]

It’s all linked to personality disorders and m€ntal illness.

[@shila8379]

@@icantthinkofaname15He means that these type of things are not worth the effort that would go into.

[@sandhanitizer15]

Fined for wasting police time. That's absolutely crazy. Edit to address the fact that everyone seems to think I didn't watch the video in it's entirety. I did. I understand she did lie, but it is a very slippery slope if we start to criminally charge people for false calls. Innocent people who have real problems will start being arrested when the incompetent police eventually decide they don't feel like doing work and decide someone is lying when they're not.

[@Rubycella]

Same thing happened to me the my ex was stalking me and the police said they were gonna charge me for calling them all the time I knew I could not trust the police

[@TastieCutie]

she lied...

[@chadimirputin2282]

British police are diabolical, you have absolutely no idea how bad our police services are here.

[@user-od8yh8xs9u]

she did waste their time. she lied to them on multiple occasions and then got back with the guy.

[@jessetreadway5249]

Be completely honest. It will produce a better understanding of the circumstances with the authorities and produce more protective responses. And then she got back with the psycho and then got right back with the good man... This is a very complicated story. Not to be reduced to "psycho acts psychotic out of the blue and police acted neglectfully". Police were warned. And Shana was warned. Everyone learned their lesson here.

[@whoknowsflapjack8754]

Ashley sounds like an incredibly tolerant man who didn’t deserve any of this

[@damianpharaoh161]

Ashley sounds like a simp lmaoo no sympathy

[@skullchimes]

@T Raybern patricia... No

[@ArtistFormerlyKnownAsShitlord]

He’s a Simp who was played by a self-centred woman. She didn’t deserve what happened to her at all. But it doesn’t excuse her behaviour.

[@yasminskye5224]

Why are you talking about him when a woman literally got MURDERED?

[@fernfreeman1729]

My thoughts exactly. She may have been only 19, but she was deceitful, even to police about her affair, she played a very dangerous game. She played with fire and literally got burned.

[@justaguyonyoutube1184]

These videos are very well put together. The male voice-over is perfect, the quick intro and the song that comes with it every time. Keep it up. 👌🏼

[@bernie2231]

I feel real bad tor Ashley Shana's murder was horrific, Then to find that the perp was a man that she was cheating with, must have been a hard pill to swallow.

[@fredajordan5704]

Bernie22 : Exactly my thoughts....

[@TheJcris87]

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

[@hauwamuktari735]

Well done @jcris87 you sound dumb

[@roxannemoser]

​@@TheJcris87 victim blaming at its finest. Shana was an impressionable teen.

[@TheJcris87]

@@roxannemoser people should have some personal accountability. She didn't aim for this outcome, but she damn sure did everything she could to make that an outcome that was possible regardless of if she was aware of it or not.

[@ChristinaTodd1970]

I absolutely love how you remember the victims before every story. That's what makes you #1

[@davide.b8027]

Agreed 👍🏻 👍🏻 👍🏻

[@larryflint8351]

if u get killed its your fault 0.0

[@adolfryan1930]

She got what she deserved to be fair

[@mohammedfarid5761]

Great comment your absolutely right, nobody gives a shout out to the family of the victim... EVER!!!!

[@josmclove4426]

Whiners😵‍💫

[@TheAedee]

As someone who has been stalked, the doors would never, ever, under any circumstance be open. Even with housemates, you check the doors and windows. RIP Shana

[@carolegoldstein4482]

He stole her house keys, and let himself in.

[@TheAedee]

@@carolegoldstein4482 there was a point where her housemates left the doors unlocked. It's just awful to think someone could go into another person's living space to end their lives. We should feel safe, but people like Michael Lane unfortunately create poor environments for others to live in.

[@carolegoldstein4482]

@@TheAedeeI totally agree with you. I'm sorry you went through that. It must have been horrible.

[@evilswissy]

you make vanity comments on all the videos you watch

[@seravt258]

This hits home. I was in an 8 year abusive relationship, and when I was finally strong enough to leave, I was harassed and stalked for 3 years.

[@Ladyjojo695]

Yes same and he still does it. 4 years later

[@laurieowens8510]

I’m so sorry. ❤️🙏🏼❤️

[@kiara198923]

I am glad you made it out. I am sorry you went through that.

[@XLindsLuvsPinkX]

@Dirtiestdan P In what way do you feel that comment was anywhere near appropriate? Most victims don’t cheat in fear of beatings or even possible death.

[@Lucysays]

I still wear an emergency alert necklace that police provided me. Thankfully, Canadian cops believe me.

[@kensbarbie7566]

This happened just down the road from me. It was truly tragic and heartbreaking and had a significant impact on the community. Thankfully Sussex police have made huge improvements and take complaints made by young women seriously. My daughter had an issue with unwanted male attention and they were on it immediately. Tragic outcome for this poor girl 😢

[@the-btc-tradingfloor2808]

The police are a joke in the UK now

[@RaphaelDawkinsCombatRadio]

This is not only a female issue, men get stalked too 😳

[@waynepolo6193]

​@@RaphaelDawkinsCombatRadioThere was no suggestion of gender discrepancy in the comment...

[@jaromor8808]

@@waynepolo6193 Read again.

[@jaromor8808]

I suspect they would take her more seriously (I might be wrong) hadn't she messaged him with kisses... And later getting back with him again.

[@bobhurley1270]

Someone like this can't be reasoned with and should be put down before they ever get a chance to hurt someone. By now we all know if a person goes to these lengths to stalk someone, it's never going to end well. Sorry, not sorry. I hope the family of victim can find some peace

[@reignman30]

If it can be proven. We're looking at this story after a thorough investigation and with the benefit of hindsight. Vindictive women do in fact lie about things like this too to try to get men in trouble.

[@frenchy1987]

This case pisses me off so bad, I just watched another case from the uk about stalking and she tried her best and they shut her down multiple times! Americans and the uk need better stalking laws and take them more seriously

[@TenFalconsMusic]

We have absolutely no trust in our police here in the UK. They're basically a gang of degenerate thugs who prey upon us (see the Sarah Everard case) and as in this case, always take the side of the criminal, whilst threatening (and often prosecuting) the victims. ...but don't believe me. Google "crimes by UK police" and see the horrendous statistics for yourself.

[@grottybt5006]

Was she cheating on her boyfriend and lying to police too? This was a lovers tiff that ended in murder

[@fj8433]

@@grottybt5006 She cheated, so it gives any person the right to end her life for that? Is this your logic? Michael would have done that to any girl, try focusing on the real problem: Michael and the cops. She lied about the relationship with Michael, but not about the stalking and abuse.

[@MrPaxio]

sooo, youre okay with the cheating on fiancee part?

[@edwardbellingham3509]

Stupid women nowadays. 🙄

[@Brilliant_Idiot05]

Stalking is such a tricky thing to handle. Of course an option is a restraining order or jail time. However if someone is willing to KILL you, those 2 options mean nothing. Only thing would be to move and hide your identity

[@truth4004]

I agree because they never stop unless you relocate carefully.

[@reinamatheny9972]

learn self-defense, lock and load, and a big, mean dog~

[@Brilliant_Idiot05]

@@reinamatheny9972 most definitely!!!

[@ellemontgomery6569]

He broke in once, and he was able to break in again?? She should have bought a gun and killed him the first time he broke in. Better the stalker 6ft under than the victim.

[@nar-kl7dg]

A daughters father has no choice but to remove the threat, if he is aware of it

[@barbita65]

Great video. This is a small detail, but FYI- the emergency services number in the UK isn't 911, it's 999. Distracted me when it kept being shown. Thank you for what you do.

[@mrjonesandme8848]

​@@wescooper2961omg not everywhere in the UK. More specifically, not where this happened. *Not going to add the Thank you part, because no one has appreciation for a bicycle seat sniffing troll.

[@saddletramp5000]

Crazy that tiny detail was a distraction for you. I think the reason they used 911, instead of 999, is that most of their subscribers/listeners are in the U.S., so it made more sense.

[@xMorganbrittnyx]

That little thing was a distraction?

[@horrorbehindthephoto]

People need to start taking stalking more seriously. Especially in this crazy and twisted times when literally everything is toxic.

[@BabyBoy_Milo]

Fr. Stalking is so serious and usually indicates more serious dangerous/ socially unacceptable behavior on the horizon. It’s criminally underreported in my opinion

[@crunchybee]

Literally EVERYTHING!!!!

[@5thdimension954]

Most who are murdered by a lover have experienced stalking prior to death. RIP Shaina

[@lotuspocus76312]

Yes. But: Shana was hiding the fact that they were lovers at one point and therefore I understand the wrong actions of the officer - giving her a fine.

[@horrorbehindthephoto]

@@5thdimension954 Exactly, statistics don't lie, but somehow, when somebody reports stalking, it get treated like a joke. Sad.

[@vaszgul736]

"Her parents believe police mishandling of the case and negative assumptions about their daughter lead to her untimely demise" that isn't even a belief, that's just a fact tbh

[@lanabills4498]

💯 absolutely! What a tragic tragic waste of a beautiful young ladies life. My heart hurts for her and how unprotected she must have felt... the people she thought would help her... ughw...just got labelled and victimized even more... That's despicable. Rip beautiful girl. Touched my heart. You deserved much much better.

[@sammyb1651]

This one treads a very fine line tbh. She deliberately misled police and then went back and forth between him and her other boyfriend AFTER she'd formally accused him of crimes to the police. The police aren't clairvoyant, they're entitled to form judgments based on the known fact they're being lied to. Obviously the murder is a heinous crime and the perpetrator deserves everything he gets, but from a policing perspective it's getting dangerous now to suggest they should just be able to disregard lies and willing participation on the part of a female. Just like everybody else, if women want a reasonable expectation they'll be believed by police they do have a duty to be honest in their dealings with them. If they're not, they can reasonably expect worse treatment and outcomes. That's just common sense.

[@lanabills4498]

@@sammyb1651 I'm not sure what you saw, but very interesting to hear your perspective. I have to completely disagree with your conclusions. I personally find them quite misogynistic and offensive. But each to their own, the world would be very boring if everybody agreed about everything. Just sad. A 19 year old GIRL lost her life. Collateral damage???

[@sammyb1651]

@@lanabills4498 I saw what you saw. I presume that's the only reason we're commenting on the same KZbin vid. We differ because you'd like for her to be allowed to lie to the police AND STILL have the benefit of being treated as though she was a person who was honest with the police. Which-at the risk of stating the obvious-is a very silly state of affairs. You're the misogynist because you want women to be treated like children. As though they're not responsible for lying and need preferential treatment. Far from being a misogynist, I would like women to be treated equally. If a man was having an affair and had been found to be lying to police, police would then necessarily have to be sceptical of further reports he made about the person in question. Particularly if he was then having FURTHER consensual relations with that person AFTER he'd made the reports to police. It's completely separate to the issue of the murder. It's just how human nature works. If you think that's misogynistic, you're not only wrong, but you're asking for a completely different standard to be applied to her because of her sex. Which makes you the misogynist.

[@lanabills4498]

@@sammyb1651 I didn't go into an argument with you, specifically, because we disagree. And no amount of verbal sparring is going to change your opinion or mine. Let's not get personal please. I said I "personally" find them offensive and misogynistic. I still do. I also said I found your perspective interesting. Please leave it there. I won't change your mind, and you won't change my mind. Ok. Good. Thankyou. Iv got my big girl pants on.

[@GnosticJuggernaut.]

Its crazy that people stalk their ex's. If you want them back, you actually have a better chance by giving them their space. Give them time to miss you.

[@mortalwombat78]

I moved all the way to uk away from an abusive ex..took our son and just left the island. That was 14 years ago this year September. Best decision ever.

[@TenFalconsMusic]

You moved to the UK? Sorry...

[@Juggsy87]

​@Regents Park Music do you live in the UK too?

[@Wetlax11]

Poor girl! Also feel bad for Ashley not only did he have to go through his longtime girlfriend being brutally murdered. He Also found out she was cheating on him with the guy. All around tragic situation.

[@topspot4834]

Disconnecting her murder for a moment, that's really messed up how she treated him. And she went back to him and still didn't tell the truth. He's lucky he's not the one who was killed.

[@DJMarcO138]

@@topspot4834 IKR? I mean...she should NOT have been murdered, but what a deceitful skank. HAD THE CHANCE to out the guy to the cops, but refused to because her BF that she ALSO chose to cheat on was sitting there. I mean...I feel less bad about the cops decision to fine her since she did in fact waste their time - at least on that occasion.

[@gemcrystal1043]

It was stated that Ashley and Shana had a off and on again relationship while remaining very good friends which meant that should either one of them meet another it wouldn't be 'Cheating' per se as they weren't fully in a committed relationship sadly for both in the end. Ashley was fully aware that Shana was seeing that DickWad and even told him not to Hurt Shana so he was acting as her Best Friend and Partial Boyfriend, it was no shock to him that she was seeing another guy. He Obviously Loved her and would have done anything to Protect her even though they weren't fully together as a couple. It would have Hurt him for sure that she was seeing someone else but he had No permanent claim on her love life sadly. I wish he had because then she would be alive today. Very Sad situation due to one more Controlling Narcissistic Violent Obsessive waste of good air!! I Feel for Him as well as the Sad Loss of a Young Inexperienced Beautiful Girl who was simply just trying to live her life the only way she knew how with All the Emotions that Both sex's have at that age. 💔 Not always Good Clear Thinking Experience. My Heart Hurts for ALL the Girls/Women who lose their life or are Twisted up in a relationship with a male (sometimes female yes) who's only goal is to Control their Partner by Any Means. 💜🥺😥💔 And yes I've had experience with this topic both personally and have watched a sibling female be the Demon in the Story and Sadly has Controlled a Man into spending his life unhappily with her, he should have walked while still young enough to enjoy a life without threats of suicide if he left her etc etc etc. Shana's young Life will be Mourned Forever by her Family and True Friends and the Memories will Forever be Treasured. But Ashley wasn't her full time Partner Sadly. 😢

[@scheezy]

@@gemcrystal1043 No excuse. She shouldn't have been a cheater.

[@stephanielloyd4053]

​@ScheezyTV wow! Some incels in this comment thread! Even if she was cheating, which she wasn't! They had an on and off again relationship, she didn't deserve to be stalked and murdered!

[@natahliak7691]

I was stalked when I was 20. The cops did nothing so I took matters into my own hands. I ended up stalking him instead over 6 months. I took over all his social media accounts ect. I found out he was stalking 3 other women. I contacted them and we all went to the police. I told him that I would gladly rot in prison before I let him stalk another woman. I also told him that I am not afraid of dying and I'll take him down with me if he tried anything. He was charged for assault on 2 of the women. I'm so glad they're OK.

[@suetan8690]

❤

[@nimbuscloud2385]

You were so scared, you stalked and provoked him? Sounds like you made that up.

[@natahliak7691]

@nimbuscloud2385 Wether you believe me or not is of complete irrelevance to me. But when you're constantly living in fear, flight is your first instinct. But after months, years, ect, you realise you have to fight for this to end. Have a lovely day.

[@DeanMehrtens]

Did you get charged and jailed for stalking??? Or does that rule not apply to women?? Don’t worry everyone already knows the answer!!!

[@heatherfahrenkopf67]

I had an ex bf exactly like this guy. He would show up to my house, sit in his car stalking my house. He was literally calling/texting 500 times a day (no joke) threatened to kill me and my cat multiple times. I finally called the police and they took it very seriously. The officer said that this is very concerning and obsessive behaviour. They arrested him after seeing all the calls and msgs and threats etc and charged him with 6 counts of criminal harassment. So sad that Shana wasn’t protected and the police pushed her away like her story was fake. The police failed her. Rip sweet girl

[@sentwithecho]

You are one of the lucky ones

[@ekbanks]

I can only imagine what you were going through. I dated a girl if you would say that it only lasted 2 weeks and the reason why was because every time I came over a boyfriend would send her text messagesInforming her of my car and exactly what I had on as I was sitting in her apartment. I'm not a small guy so I believe that's the only reason he never physically confronted me or knocked on the door while I was there but after the 2nd week and she told me he owns a gun I had a terrible feeling so I just broke it off with her.

[@heatherfahrenkopf67]

@emeraldgold8284 because I own a business and changing my number would make me lose business

[@damianpharaoh161]

They protected you and not her because you weren't out here cheating with other men and playing with fire

[@skullchimes]

@@damianpharaoh161 get diarrhea

[@GhastlyCretin]

The narrator called this guy "ruggedly handsome". Maybe I can't see it as a straight male but that's not how I would have described him 🤷

[@st0rmi965]

I am a female and I also wouldn't describe him as handsome.

[@GhastlyCretin]

​@@st0rmi965 Ruggedly average maybe...

[@HopelessSinner]

Not rugged, not handsome, just meh...🤷‍♀️ R.I.P Shana 🌹

[@romystumpy1197]

I'm female,no he isn't ruggedly handsome,they are both average looking

[@tanyachristensen5330]

Same

[@9teen9t4]

Well done to Hon. Justice Green for not only recognizing the gross negligence, but setting the ball in mostion for something to actually be done about it unlike the myriad other cases we watch. It is so sad to think she did everything right and still this was the outcome. From someone who barely survived a similar issue, RIP Shana, you deserved so much more.

[@ruthlody7300]

“She did everything right” EXCEPT being totally honest about the extent of her relationship with this psycho. The police probably sensed she wasn’t being totally truthful and that contributed to them not taking her as seriously as they should have. Still a horrible thing to happen to the poor girl. She was young and “naive” and this was possibly preventable. The whole situation was mishandled from every aspect.

[@HarshTruth711]

Slashes tires and then shows up and volunteers to change them?.... thats BEYOND Crazy😢

[@jimmers5624]

And she knows it but then dates him again she got what she deserved

[@BabyBoy_Milo]

And all this time this girl was barely an adult. I couldn’t imagine how to deal with a stalker when you’re that young

[@tankthearc9875]

but not young enough to not cheat .....

[@EmeraldView]

I think we need to again raise the age we call someone a CHILD!

[@BabyBoy_Milo]

@@tankthearc9875 ?? She was a young adult lmfao

[@ekbanks]

Facts. Even though she was playing childish games I had to remember she was only 18 years old.

[@ekbanks]

​@@tankthearc9875 lol That's exactly what young people normally do.

[@ervgotti130]

I hate she was killed... but she manipulated this whole situation and used that poor guy! The boyfriend is a victim.

[@habibi_diablo]

She's also a victim here. Yes she didn't reveal the police all the details about her relationship with Michael and she cheated on her boyfriend but that doesn't mean she deserves death for this Police didn't do their job properly inspite of her reaching out to them multiple times which ultimately led to her death

[@elduderino7767]

@@habibi_diablo it's hard to do your job when you are constantly lied to on top of that UK is rife with false accusations and this has only snowballed in divorce cases to get favourable settlements all while false allegations go largely unpunished, it's a massive problem and part of the reason so much lives a lost only when false allegations are prosecuted seriously will this be fixed

[@rachexl]

so so so sad. i have a close friend that was in a relationship with an abusive guy. he was hitting her one night and she called 911 but he took her phone and smashed it before she could say anything. since no one picked up when the operator called back they sent the cops to check it out. between the 911 call and when the cops got there my friends bf told her if the cops come and she says anything to them he will kill her with the knife in his pocket right in front of them. they both answered the door with her bf standing right next to her with his arms around her. the police asked them what was going on and he told them everything was fine and their daughter had dialed 911 by mistake. my friend looked she had been crying, they had prior domestic incidences and even prior restraining orders. the police did not separate them, they just said ok to that and left my friend there. they didnt verify if there was even a kid in the home, which there was not. every single part of this was caught on their home security cameras with audio and my friend eventually came forward and showed the video to another officer who showed it to his boss and the officers that went on the call were disciplined. i watched the video and immediately after the police left her bf was thanking her and said she was a good girl by not talking to the cops and was hugging and kissing her and apologizing. it was very disturbing

[@Liberated_from_Religion]

"If you found this story compelling, don't forget to lock your doors."

[@cherylbastow1379]

Why, if they have a key? Change locks, then lock & Bolt door!!

[@nemanjarepic]

She decided to cheat on an apparently nice guy with a psychopathic narcissist. I am not saying she deserved it, far from that, all I am saying is it would not have happened if she haven't decided to cheat on her boyfriend. She also lied to her boyfriend even after the fact, as well as the police that she wanted to help her. See kids, cheating on and lying doesn't pay off. It can get you into trouble. Second edit: Wait, she then broke up with her loving and supportive boyfriend in order to return to her stalker and abuser? Wow. The things that first cop said were all true. He had no reason to believe she is in danger. She was lying and hiding important things from the police, and Michael was providing evidence that went to his favor. She made so many mistakes, one after the other, and her demise was only a matter of time unfortunately.

[@phinhnanthasone1231]

So sad that you have to prove that harm was done by your stalker

[@nesamdoom]

Shame you can't just say shit happened and have people arrested... Your point being that proof matters not?

[@nyotamwuaji6484]

While stalking is bad, I think it's to prevent false accusations from ruining a innocent persons life.

[@belmum1689]

​@@nyotamwuaji6484 Innocent he wasn't innocent

[@belmum1689]

​​@@nyotamwuaji6484 It's like stalker doesn't ruin an innocent person's life

[@phinhnanthasone1231]

@@nyotamwuaji6484 But there should have been investigations before dismisal of the case

[@truth4004]

I hate to say this but if you have a stalker, you have to move, quit the job etc and disappear.

[@victoriagraham6470]

@truth: Yes and it only ends when someone dies or when the stalker goes to prison

[@northerngirl4666]

You’d be surprised to learn how doesn’t stop some stalkers.

[@cookie_dough_hangover]

I had a stalker while I was an exchange student abroad. I really think I was lucky because I returned to my country. I don't know what would have happened, because I had no real friends or family there. It was scary.

[@patrickregan3302]

It’s great to know that the negligent police officers who ignored her were held accountable!😢

[@lob1248]

They would’ve probably take her more seriously if she had not lied. It’s sad and disgusting what he did, but she didn’t do herself any favors by lying about the whole thing.

[@nal101]

Why are you purposefully not acknowledging the fact that she lied? Had she been completely truthful, the cops might have done more. Do you leave out important details in your everyday life and then expect people to know them?

[@mus139]

They don't feel Guilt, They Just worry about losing their Jobs?

[@1183tn]

Lazy or incompetent I realized now that UK, Canada, and Australia all have these issues of police not really investigating troublesome individuals until it is too late.

[@dariadavies256]

It’s so good watching stories that have not been done a million times over! Thanks for another brilliant upload evilest!

[@CriminalFilesShorts]

So this guy couldn't handle rejection and pretty much had the mentality of "If I can't have her, nobody else can"? This is quite sad! RIP Shanna and my condolences to the family!

[@dnydeltoro]

I’ve dealt with this from a female and it was awful

[@elduderino7767]

no he was just a psychopath stop trying to normalise this behaviour as just some guy who was rejected, it's incredibly sexist

[@mphil66]

Can’t believe the police let her down over and over like that…

[@nesamdoom]

I'm 7 mins in and she's lied to the police already. Maybe that's why they didn't take her seriously. I'm guessing she dies, so that sucks, but still lying to the cops doesn't tend to get them onboard.

[@Vgs183]

I can. This happens very often

[@Vgs183]

@@nesamdoom you sound like an incel. Also she didn’t die she murdered

[@candi4202]

​@@nesamdoomyeah, she definitely should have been honest about the whole story.. but really sucks he did what he did

[@TenFalconsMusic]

The police here in the UK are a degenerate gang of thugs. You're more likely to be a victim of their crimes than them solving a crime done against you. Don't believe me... Google "UK Met police crime" and see for yourself.

[@equianothaliashaismommy5244]

I live in the uk , I don’t understand why this didn’t get more coverage in the uk news . I have never heard this sad story . Such dismissive behaviour from the police . 😢 rip Shana

[@laurametheny1008]

Its getting to the point that it would be far easier to count the actual cases where justice actually happened than where it didnt. Most things get no justice at all. People dying because the police decide theyre liars or they just dont like them? Jeez! Just gets scarier every day. More violence every day. Thanks for the upload🙏💔

[@brianallison1913]

It wasn't that the police decided she was lying but was that she blatantly did lie to the police. Once you are caught in one lie (especially when it involves cheating on a partner) the police are going to be skeptical of anything you say afterwards.

[@reignman30]

The police aren't mind readers. It doesn't help that women lie all the time about things like this too, like Shana did at first. You can't just arrest every guy that some woman accuses.

[@jenniferbrown8314]

I've been thru a similar situation and it's always the victim who gets the raw deal..soooo sad RIP 🙏

[@kriztalynn]

It was sadly more important to her that she be seen as a good woman and loyal girlfriend, than to give the authorities all the information they needed.

[@TheLikenessOfNormal]

Not enough people forming this opinion tbh.

[@menaceledennis]

But she wasn't good or loyal..

[@citytianyu]

Ashley seems like a nice soft young man. I think Shana is somewhat tired or unsatisfied with that and she wanted a “rugged” man, a tough, strong, and powerful figure to admire and take care of her, at some point. Extremely unfortunate what she found was the most disgusting one.

[@dnydeltoro]

It’s called a dual mating strategy, a nice soft reliable boyfriend and a tough bad boy to sleep with. Often the beta ends up fathering the alpha’s kids and completely unknown to him. So yeah… she played with fire

[@JP-nm6fw]

What a horrific case,this made me so angry!! This should not have happened!! The police should have done something!! This poor young lady did not deserve what happened to her!! Thanks Beyond Evil,your channel is great!!❤❤❤❤❤

[@scheezy]

Nobody deserves to be murdered, but she WAS cheating

[@uzumakisunshine1303]

@@scheezyHe IS a groomer, stalker, murderer and abuser. Way to hyper focus on cheating when all of this is going on with the murderer.

[@skullchimes]

@@scheezy ok generic hair man

[@shahwilloughby4603]

​@@scheezyshe WAS cheating but DIDN'T deserve to be murdered!!! 😡😡😡

[@barbarawoolridge4462]

This guy is evil,you can see it in his eyes I feel sorry for Shana’s parent’s R.I.P. Shana prayers to your parents and family.🙏🏻

[@barneyronnie]

He needs ended😊

[@The_Bigot]

He looks like an out of shape David Blane.

[@mollysmith605]

​@Lee Russell, no one asked you to be this accurate.

[@kiara198923]

Glad its not just me!

[@Quizack]

You can’t “see it in his eyes” at all lmao. People always say this after they’ve watched a documentary of someone being a murderer, yet apparently nobody else saw it except for 3 women on KZbin. How did Shana not see it? Or are you just one of those empaths?

[@heatherbowlan1961]

Thanks for all the work put in to your videos, your channel is fantastic! God Bless you and your families ❤️🙏🇨🇦

[@hidalgohouse3815]

Did she have a dad in her life? As a father I've never understood the lack of action. I would be a martyr.

[@alex-qd6of]

Didn't you listen to the video? Her parents lived nearby.

[@RainyJan309]

As stated above, this comment really doesn't hold much weight for this video.. but, I gotta ask... As a father, if you have 3 other kids at home, would you want to sacrifice perhaps their only provider for the one? Lots to consider.

[@hidalgohouse3815]

@@alex-qd6of THAT is exactly my point. Why didn't dad sacrifice himself and take out her violent stalker?

[@chonkcat7362]

@@hidalgohouse3815 Other kids need a dad too my dude.

[@stevemore3206]

​@@chonkcat7362 she was their only child

[@caitlinburris3003]

Crazy how these murderers are so big and bad until it's time to face the consequences. Smh. RIP Shana ❤

[@ileanamuntean7338]

Cowards.

[@igitha..._]

He literally croaked in the interview! I've never heard a culprit ribbit but he really did! When the officer asks him "Tell me what happened" Michael's eyes flicker and he croaks "Don't know" !

[@symbiote1982pk]

"these murderers" prey on the weak, there's nothing perceived as big or bag about either of those things.

[@caitlinburris3003]

@@symbiote1982pk I agree. But what it takes to actually do that. Is terrifying in and of itself

[@Johnny2Bags47]

She invited it though. I'm just saying 🤣🤦‍♂️

[@candypal700]

Hats off to Judge Green..He is truly amazing and could see through the murderer’s lies and the police ignoring the victim cries for help..So tragic...

[@murrmurr765]

Imagine being terrified of someone for so long and be killed by him or her in the end even though you tried to hide. Edit: and imagine being that guy thinking he'd get away with it.

[@jokesonyou1373]

Imagine playing with fire & getting burned

[@ellentronicmistress4969]

@@jokesonyou1373 She was barely an adult. I guess you never made poor judgements in your teens.

[@cyberspelunker1980]

I don’t have to imagine it.

[@alex-qd6of]

@@jokesonyou1373 good thing you didn't do anything stupid, when you were eighteen.

[@jokesonyou1373]

@@alex-qd6of I joined the Military 🤡

[@justinawilkes8502]

I feel so bad for Ashley. Such a sweet and upstanding young man.

[@Davey_Da_Vinci]

Yes. The total 30 seconds he was given in this story warrants sympathy

[@darkwoods1954]

He was a bit of a sap taking her back after she cheated on him for a year.

[@justinawilkes8502]

@@darkwoods1954 Well yeah that is true as well.

[@phant0mdummy]

@@darkwoods1954 dude musta loved that snooky.

[@stevecheevers7337]

@@darkwoods1954 He didn't know she was cheating on him though, that's why she lied to police in front of him.

[@TheCupcake40]

MASSIVE FAILURE of the police department.

[@joshoshea3194]

I can't believe that you described him as "handsome"? It definitely isn't the word I'd use for him.

[@frenchy1987]

Right, there was definitely no attraction that I saw either

[@carriefawcett9990]

I'm a straight woman. He's ugly

[@mathiefranchuk1624]

Does the words...ugly goofball creep sum him up?

[@Krizz139]

Yes I thought the same thing, I was really surprised

[@stevemore3206]

If he's handsome I'm drop dead gorgeous lol

[@tellmeaboutit9975]

This girl went as far as to record conversations that proved he was IN HER APARTMENT!!! Wtf is wrong with that investigator?? I hope he cries himself to sleep every single night for the rest of his life knowing he let this happen.

[@edwardbellingham3509]

🤣🤣

[@derpywho1394]

She had been dating him and lied about it. Then she actually left the good boyfriend --after the report-- and went back to that trash. I'm sure they deal with that kind of thing all the time. It's hard to tell when it's "real" and when it's just bickering. My husband knows an officer who goes to the same houses for domestic violence calls several times a week. It's happens so often, it's hard to tell when it's a real threat.

[@HxzerSinful]

As someone who had a mother go through abuse with someone, the cops will NOT do anything for you until something horrible happens to that person or they die. Such a very weird system we have but it will never change so don't expect it to.

[@NotAGovernmentAgent]

Cops must have been too busy arresting people for posting memes on facebook to take this threat seriously

[@jeffhambro]

I get it, but she didn’t do herself any favors by omitting certain facts during her initial interview…

[@lolgriffin3243]

Not wearing masks and stuff

[@justinedse8435]

Exactly! The UK has a lot of issues!

[@SimonLacey-MySleekDesigns]

One of my sister's exes was like this. He was an addict and obsessed over my sister. He would show up to the house threaten everyone. We called the cops it took a few times to get a restraining order. He started calling and leaving voice messages using fake voices. When we went to court we took the voicemail machine to prove he was stalking and harassing my sister. Without the machine he would have gotten away with everything.

[@markelllashaud4717]

as a man myself im completely disgusted by the actions he committed my condolences to her family

[@UpinsmokeXVI]

Same can be said for the USA after a lot of the documentaries out there for the world to see

[@ginnied7346]

That piece of crap should never be released as he'll always be a danger to women

[@hotburner4859]

This is disgusting. She paid £90 to die? No protection at all for victims, it's unbelievable. 84 seconds, really? What were they going to get done in that time?

[@costascostas1760]

In the video it says the police mentioned she was testing the guy with kisses. Plus later on she hooked up with the guy again. I can see how the police may misread the situation. People need to he aware many women like to stay in an abusive relationship thinking it will get better or they can fix it. Intervention is needed in those cases.

[@byunniq9060]

How are we still surprised by how useless LE are.

[@slabathonfury3879]

Hey dummy, the victim lied to the police to save face with her actual boyfriend. What were they going to think at that point?

[@fookingreat]

everything that happened is extremely sad including the police attitude but there is also a reason for that. she lied to the police saying that he was only a colleague from work(coz her other BF was there). The guy told the police the truth and showed the text messages as proof of their affair. That might be why she was fined as she was lying and hiding the truth; while he gave them solid proofs. in other words dont tag along two bfs at the same time and dont go back to psycho exes.

[@janesays96]

@@fookingreat are people watching the same video we did?? Why is everyone so mad at the police, they can only act on the information they’re given. If they aren’t given the whole story, honestly, what are they to do?? Everyone is so quick to say, “victim blaming”, when it’s simply the truth, and facts. It’s not victim blaming, to point out that she made mistakes.

[@Terri_MacKay]

When I was a young single mother of 2 young boys, in the late 80's, I was stalked mercilessly and relentlessly by a neighbour. When I hear stories like Shana's it makes me so grateful to the police officers who I first talked to and who took me very seriously from the very beginning. The neighbour was served with a restraining order, and I was told by the police to call them as soon as he broke the terms of the order, which included having to stay a certain distance away from me, my children, and our house. One day when he decided to stand outside the house, I called the police, and he was immediately arrested. Again, I was lucky that the Crown Prosecutor (I live in Canada) decided to press charges, and that, although the neighbour pled guilty, the judge sentenced him to 2 years in prison. Luckily, after his sentencing, I never saw him again. Looking back, and hearing cases like this, makes me realize how rare my case was, especially for the 1980's. It was almost a miracle that everyone involved in dealing with my case were on the same page, and took his stalking and harrassment of me so seriously...the police officers, the Crown Prosecutor, the judge who issued the restraining order, and the judge who sentenced him to 2 years in prison. Even his own lawyer, who convinced him to plead guilty.

[@Notoriouscj1]

It’s because you didn’t lie.

[@tickledpink9052]

A tragic story, stalking cases just don’t get the same attention as anything else. I’m happy that the police were actually reprimanded for their negligence in this case. My wish is that stalking would be taken seriously before trashy such as this takes place.

[@MichaelBelsey]

Did her Dad not know about this? If one of my daughters told me this was happening, the guy would be my special project. I would follow him like he was following my daughter. Bad things would happen to someone who wanted to stalk my girls.

[@saossurvive]

My dad would do the same, thank you for being a good person.

[@Ladyjojo695]

But when you’re in an abusive relationship you get threatened and your family members if you tell them

[@harpsailorharp6716gg]

exactly x

[@thelunchlady8276]

Damn straight. There would be nowhere on earth he would be able to hide from me if he was stalking my daughter.

[@lolgriffin3243]

❤

[@AlexPressure777]

Yeah... she went back to him when she could of left went back home to family and blocked him, he was crazy and she left a guy that was treating her right for him.

[@l0llozer836]

I love this channel! I see you guys are on the fast track to 1mil 🎉

[@kidzline850]

"Babe the guy I cheated on you with won't leave me alone"

[@lolitahaze02]

...and she went back to him for the second time too. Wtf girl

[@jmighty33zero]

At about the 8 minute mark I stopped feeling bad for this girl. She was out here playing mind games with dudes

[@Chris_34]

If you're gonna cheat on your fiancé with a "bad boy" you shouldn't be too surprised when he acts badly. The clues in the name ffs 🤦🏻‍♂️. Wise up!

[@gtt8428]

Like a real creep I'm fixated on her sexual history right now, she wasn't a virgin when she met this guy when she was 18, And she felt comfortable messing with a 26 year old, at 18, I don't know if she was abused or a willing participant, but I'm confident if we drilled down into her childhood and more importantly teenage years, we'd find some stuff ...

[@mondo5412]

Eww

[@DevinDeborahMermaid]

The police failed this poor girl 💔🤬 this should never have gotten this far

[@JeremiahLOsborne]

The police did with the law mandates. She lied to them in their investigation. She obstructed justice.

[@patwhite7970]

Why fine a young woman, for wasting time, when being stalked, threatened, and boken into and stealing from her. Despicable.

[@sprice9964]

As always grade A material!! I’ve heard of this case before but never detailed like this! ❤

[@venus-os3ls]

He sounds exactly like my abusive ex. I genuinely believe if he knew my current address he would kill me or at least try. His own dad messages me telling me about him planning to murder me. He likes to flip the story and say I did the things he did to me despite me having the PPO against him and him having domestic assault and battery on his record.

[@barneyronnie]

Hire someone to beat him senseless!

[@DRINKTHEKOOLAIDFOOL]

The cops stole more money from her than the murderer did ...

[@sarah.DevNmaul]

Omg. Who gets to decide what's a " waste of police time" that's ridiculous. AND he had a record!

[@JeremiahLOsborne]

When you lie to the police, that is wasting police time.

[@sarah.DevNmaul]

@@JeremiahLOsborne ahh one of those huh...

[@JeremiahLOsborne]

@@sarah.DevNmaul not sure what that means. But it sounds like you're playing the us versus them game. Whoever doesn't agree with you is "that guy." It's pathetic. It's what Trump does when he calls out a judge's children for being anti-Trump. I'm sorry that you can't face reality that people must be held accountable for their actions. The law decides what is a waste of police time. The law. The same set of rules that you have to follow. The same penalties that are prescribed for you if you lie to the police. Do you understand how that works? Equal application. Is somebody accused you of stalking, you would want the police to have evidence before they arrested you. No matter what the situation. Don't be stupid and play games. Because if you were in a jail cell, you'd be crying your little panties off.

[@jessicataylor7174]

@@JeremiahLOsborne She omitted details in an absolutely predictable way for a victim who is being interviewed in the presence of a partner/family member etc. This is EXACTLY why they are NOT ALLOWED to sit in. The police broke protocol and let her bf sit in when they are supposed to insist on it being private and do the explaining for the victim (EG "Sorry, we can't allow you to sit in, this is procedure and you can speak to her afterwards"). Her behaviour was completely in line with expectations for witnesses put in this position, the police created a situation where she was inhibited from telling the whole truth.

[@JeremiahLOsborne]

@@jessicataylor7174 That's not true. She could have anybody in the room that she wants to. The police don't have the authority to force someone out of the presence of another person, unless there are some kind of exigent circumstances. If she told them I want him with me, then they will allow it, otherwise they may not get the information that they want. Nevertheless, she lied to the police. They're not mind readers. If she was really concerned, then she could have gone to the police alone at any time. She could have called them to clarify her story. There are a number of steps that she could have taken outside the presence of anybody else to have this situation ameliorated. But she didn't. She lied and then she kept up the lie in order to hide her misbehavior. And it got her into a lot of trouble. I'm not a huge fan of law enforcement, but the cops did their job in this instance. They can't suppose that she's lying before she even starts speaking. They are taking for granted that she is telling them the truth, and then when they find out that she wasn't, what are they supposed to do? Keep on pursuing the case against the man that she lied against?

[@lynn5050]

I'm in the UK. Honestly, never heard this case. 😢

[@deannelson1388]

Same here, and i binge watch these crime videos.

[@happyheidi747]

I've not heard of this case either,

[@nicholawilson8555]

I'm from the area police really let her down.

[@deannelson1388]

@@nicholawilson8555 And that's probably why it is little known about, damage limitation, they did let her down badly.

[@TenFalconsMusic]

You probably didn't hear about this case because the news generally doesn't report on the systematic incompetence and criminality of our police here in the UK.

[@premiertrainingFL]

Cheating is obviously pretty common, especially when someone is unhappy in a relationship, being dishonest is generally frowned upon, but you own no one, no one owes you anything, they choose you, or they stop choosing you. No one deserves death for their partner choices, that’s insane. She was young and she was killed by a pathetic little man. Rip

[@KikiCartman]

I really love how you pay respect for the victim and their families at the start, most crime youtubers dont do that

[@MonTube2006]

I love Mike too but you're statement here just isn't true

[@UpinsmokeXVI]

This has got to be an AI voice because simple words are not even pronounced correctly

[@susandelgado4531]

Not defending him or his actions at all, or the police for fining her, but if you're scared enough of someone to call the police on them (legitimately, and not just to cover up the affair), why would you get back with him? Go to concerts? Meet him alone in a hotel room? Gotta be smart.

[@KantoCafe715]

To keep him sweet?

[@undoubtedcrow8010]

​@@KantoCafe715 bad idea

[@KantoCafe715]

@@undoubtedcrow8010 right, but she was basically a kid. That was her motivation

[@TheStengo]

signing messages with 5 kisses it is clear that she was trying to drag him along just in case.

[@jackierobinson6388]

Thanks for covering this story. I'm from the UK. In years gone by the justice system here appeared to be more tuned in with the police. Now not so much. Good upload and cover. Thanks.

[@TenFalconsMusic]

The Met police are nothing short of a degenerate gang of thugs, preying on the community and profiting from being criminal's personal body guards. We'd be better off sacking the lot and recruiting from the police in Texas, USA.

[@frenchy1987]

Sorry to hear this! Here in America the justice system is either great or horrible there’s no in between! U can get life in prison for drugs but be sentenced to life with parole for murdering someone and be out in 25 years 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@frenchy1987]

@@TenFalconsMusic are the cops really that bad over there? Here in America of course we have good and bad cops just like with everything there’s always few bad ones but for the most they are good IMO

[@TenFalconsMusic]

@Jennifer Yes, the cops truly are abhorrent here in the UK. We think twice before calling them, because they usually do more harm than good. It goes beyond incompetence. Statistically speaking, they're probably involved in more criminal behaviour than we could ever imagine. I'm not at all surprised by the actions (or lack thereof) by the police in this video. Sadly, it's become what we expect.

[@frenchy1987]

@@TenFalconsMusic wow that’s insane I would of never thought that about UK cops smh that’s pathetic on their part 😞 wish the world was better it’s getting out of control! Here in America it’s crazy right now, the woke movements people rioting over everything, I wish times were different

[@tzuamourshihtzu9871]

I’m going through a stalking situation & the first of many police visits i had 1 of the 2 officers attending literally made me feel like it was my fault. He later had to return on the 6th police visit & apologised for not taking me seriously. Unfortunately restraining orders & fines aren’t working & I’ve given up calling the police back out 🤷‍♀️ I swear one day this is gonna be me 😞 This sort of thing is unfortunately more common than people might think 😔

[@RaphaelDawkinsCombatRadio]

Keep a log of events and hand the log to the police periodically.

[@SHEEPLESUCK]

Learn self protection. Please

[@TreesRgreen123]

Same here. Been going on for years. Iv had non mol orders out and he's breached every single one with just a slap on the wrist. Police actually treated me like the criminal. And they wonder why all these crimes go unreported

[@lorenx6650]

The perfect victim is the dead victim. Such despicable behaviour from the police, such poor poor work.

[@dallasdobson8831]

So tricky and the cops aren’t completely at fault. You can’t lie to the police then expect them to believe you. Particularly considering how many of these are false reports by a jaded lover. Then filing reports of domestic abuse then going right back to dating them I’m aware this is often part of the abuse cycle but this is difficult for the police to decipher.

[@gtt8428]

And it's easy to sit here now and insist she wasn't the instigator, but maybe she was abusive in her own way ? Maybe she gave as good as she got ? She was smart enough to juggle 2 men after all...

[@mondo5412]

​@@gtt8428 just eww

[@elizabethb1096]

Except they fucking knew his history and she continued with the reports until fucking ass

[@InstinktzBTW]

It’s pretty scary to be the main bf not having a clue about an affair with a lunatic that knows about him. Been there before and what I can share to other men is to let that woman go before she get you taken out of this world. I’ve had to avoid my home for months knowing there was a thug jealous of me. MEN GET OUT!!!

[@seangildersleeve1270]

Not listening to people about dangerous individuals and not taking stalking and threats seriously is a problem. For Women (more so) and Men. It makes me so angry.

[@reignman30]

And how were they supposed to know he was a dangerous individual when they find out she's sending him hugs and kisses?

[@jessicaellina3878]

Mistakes made by many in this tragic story...but in the end the only person( monster) to blame is the one who planned and executed a horrendous murder. How Shana looked at him twice is beyond me...looks like the evil, thuggish brute that he is.

[@reignman30]

Shana did herself no favors. Lying about it the whole time and as you said, looking at him twice.

[@TheMjsPrincess]

This happened about 10 minutes from where I live. I know her cousin. Absolutely horrific. Cant believe the police didn’t do more 😢

[@chelleyd4020]

What do you expect them to do when she kept texting him with kisses and kept meeting him and getting into affairs with him

[@alexlogan202]

This happen about 12 hours from where I live

[@UpinsmokeXVI]

@ alexlogan202 the other end of the uk

[@piggywiggie3922]

"The rugged, handsome 26 year old" are we looking at the same man?

[@swallowedinthesea11]

I'm 24 and although I live in another city and work in construction, my Mom makes me send her my credit card statements because she doesn't want me to buy useless things and my Internet is monitored, I can't even have Netflix. I'm from a Korean family. She controls a lot of my life, unfortunately, and as the oldest I have to look after her. I have told her she's kind of interfering, but I agree that parents need to really talk to their adult and minor children about the dangers of meeting and dating people you meet on the Internet. I have a niece and I couldn't believe I acted like my Mom when I found out she had a lot of social media accounts and 'friends.' No 13 year old has 1200+ followers on Instagram and Facebook.

[@GhastlyCretin]

With all due respect, your mom has no business telling you, at 24, what you can and can't do with the money you earn. That's way too much.

[@truth4004]

It could be worse.

[@saulmc8920]

Wtf has that got to do with anything

[@wannabuyabridge]

This took place within a mile of my home; thoughts are with Shana and her family

[@Youtiredyet9355]

She kept going back. Don’t depend on anyone else to protect you more than you are willing to protect yourself

[@connoroleary591]

Exactly. There is a responsibility on ourselves to be responsible and avoid danger. She wasn't done in by a stranger in a dark corner, she played around with the feelings of a lunatic and in the end, she found out.

[@waynegoddard4065]

Quality channel!!!!!!

[@lexiaaforever437]

They Failed her terribly 😢 I’m so sorry this happened to her . It breaks my heart because I had a stalker & he even moved to my state & city then showed up at my house …..ThankGod for my Dad because he Threatened him First & We got a restraining order . At first he continued until we Called the Cops & They took it seriously (due to having friends on the force) He actually has left me alone since then & it’s been almost two years.

[@TheActionHank]

I like how they blame the cops when she LIED from the get go even when her boyfriend wasnt around. Cheating got her killed.

[@LovePrettyNailsLady-Jay80]

Such an absolute narcissist. Sickens me to see how low down dirty someone can be and the gull nerve to think anyone would actually believe his lies. Such disgust for this human being

[@RavenhairedBeware]

God I love this narrators voice 😍. It's just so right for doing this 😊

[@lydiataylor2954]

I can totally relate to this. My husband was an abuser and he hit me and pulled my hair out, but yet when the officers got there, he had scratches on his arms. And the officer kept looking at my nails and saying, how did this happen because my nails were so short. One officer believed me and the other one didn’t and he pursued me and charges were actually going to be brought against me for abuse but during this time, my husband abused me again and the DA saw what was going on and charged my husband.

[@daviddelara7158]

As a Brit I remember this case - it’s truly horrifying what happened and that the police DID NOTHING even when she did everything your supposed to do when reporting to police - I’m disgusted by this case and if the police did their job she would be alive today

[@jimsquared153]

So, she cheated on her boyfriend with a guy who turned out to be psycho. But she then went back to him?? Having a hard time feeling like entirely sorry for her.

[@MrHayes-vh6wl]

Glad someone said it . I mean the cop said hey I see her text she was still involved and cheating . He knew something bekuz she went back to him after dumping her boyfriend she cheated on! THEN met with her stalker she was so afraid of at a hotel to discuss there relationship? Aye man rip to her but mannnn I feel a lot could have been avoided . Glad he in jail tho

[@Da_Love74]

I don't understand why some men can't seem to take rejection and let it go. I went through a horribly painful breakup years ago with a girl I was totally crazy for...she left me for another guy after 4 years together. It was tough and it hurt...but I moved on. I didn't harass her and certainly didn't want to kill her. These guys need to grow up.

[@connoroleary591]

So true, nothing is as tough as rejection. There should be help for people who are victims of stalking, also, there should be help for people who need advice on how to deal with the pain of a break up. I hope you are in a much better place today.

[@katiacb]

Unbelievable! Shana came back to the creep!! By doing so, she fed his obsession with her! Not an excuse for his nasty criminal behaviour, but it certainly didn't make things any easier. Police, once again, failed people!