The Twisted Story Of Kelsey Turner

[@ProofBeyond]

Such a strange story. He was on dating sites, had explicit photos on his phone, met up with women… and his partner was ok with it all? Also, if he was in the early stages of alzheimers, how is he still a practising psychiatrist? I have so many questions…

[@keatonmask1918]

Yeah, I was wondering why no one really mentioned this stuff in the comments. And he only helped women? Single ones primarily? I’m not saying he was a bad person or deserved any of this in the slightest, but no one is even addressing the weirdness of all of that.

[@mckid2683]

It's called an "Open relationship" you FN weirdos. LoL. She and the other 2 are the evil ppl here, not the victim. Geezus!

[@ProofBeyond]

@@mckid2683 dude. Calm down 😂 I wasn’t laying blame on anyone. Nor was I saying he deserved what happened. There was no mention of an open relationship. If you know so much, tell me how he could still be practising psychiatry with alzheimers? I just said I have questions. That’s it and that’s all.

[@ProofBeyond]

@@keatonmask1918 right. I definitely don’t want to take away from the fact that hes the victim here, and no matter what - he did not deserve what happened to him. I simply don’t understand the whole story and, naturally have questions.

[@trailrunner925]

As a child psychologist, it’s “notable” that only female children he took such a personal interest in. Reminds me of the Susan Polk case…. I think that was her name…

[@kyledamron]

Thank you for showing the generous side of Dr. Burchard. He was my doctor he paid my family's rent many times it was never sexual. I hate the media made him seem like a sugar daddy.

[@bluejay9890]

I don't think the media made him out to be a sugar daddy. That's a conclusion most of hearing the story came to. It's very unusual for a man to give a young, buxom blond money just to help her out. Usually a man will give such a woman money for sexual favors. I'm not saying this guy was one of those people, but it's only natural people would come to this conclusion.

[@goodnessmercybegood2all450]

@@bluejay9890 superbly said

[@holdencawffle626]

He is a sugar daddy

[@north_star_yt]

Prove it

[@jameswifey9248]

The only thing that made him seem like a sugar daddy was his actions even this presenter with all of this syrupy praise of this man couldn't even hide the fact that he was a SUGAR DADDY!!!!

[@melissawampler4179]

Just googled her name. November 11th 2022 she signed an "Alford" plea deal and only faces 10-25 years . Sickening. Justice was not served in this case. Rest in piece to Thomas Burchard

[@youtookmy_userid7814]

They should both get 40 years minimum..

[@takashiimotaki9593]

​@@youtookmy_userid7814Ok inspector angel of justice😂

[@SofiA-uk8sy]

They should get life in prison and no parole

[@airassault1151]

Can’t believe they offered her that it’s insane

[@carltonbanks5470]

​@@airassault1151 She's white, female, and fake blonde. Justice is not blind.

[@friscog545]

Dr. Burchard was my psychiatrist when I attended the Clint Eastwood Youth Program ( its part of Community Hospital Of the Monterey Peninsula ) in Monterey CA. I was a teen 15 years old when I first met him. I was struggling with drug addiction and mental health issues..I saw him once a week. Every time I left his office/room I was happy. I felt the care he gave to me and all his patients. He really helped with my mental health. He listened and actually did everything he could to help. After every appointment he would do a magic trick. He then would show me how the trick was done and give me the materials or whatever he used to do the trick . So I can do the magic trick myself and make others have a nice moment like he did with me. He wasn't just my Dr. He was my friend..REST IN PEACE DR.BURCHARD. We miss you

[@puppytooth.v6502]

He was balls deep in a playboy bunny. What a G.

[@pascaltwigg6096]

Lmao@@puppytooth.v6502

[@lynnehorizon5532]

He may have felt like a friend but if he was your psychiatrist then he could not be both.

[@judithsullivan9703]

Thank you for post your testimonial and experience with Dr Buchard.... It made a difference for me reading it to know what he really was about and who we really was❤️

[@Hope4All1968]

@@puppytooth.v6502 Have you ever been blackmailed? There are some bad people in this world. Things aren’t always as they seem.

[@onemaddad3823]

Being in South Florida, I know a few mom’s like this. They’re more concerned with attention and material things than they are their own children. It’s disgusting. Narcissistic beyond belief.

[@Amber-OliverBear]

I’m in Tampa and see it happen often As well

[@bjmarchives]

I remember being on Delray Beach and seeing a pretty girl in her 20s with a fat man in his 60s. Every time he got in the water, she got out and vice versa.

[@isabellageo1694]

Here in Ireland is full of mother s like that...like really everywhere...and they think they are good

[@p.gonzalez1771]

imagine seeing it first hand in miami . it is disgusting

[@Mysucculentchinesemeal]

@carey ⚘️ lots of those here in Va.

[@jakeminner6650]

It's horrible how they talk about his health and memory like he was losing it somehow. But he still had his practice, and practiced at his practice, but had Alzheimer's? I think someone, maybe family or close friends, didn't want it to look as bad on Thomas for his conscious decisions.

[@DagosArts]

I think you're right on the money here. (Pun not intended)

[@sallylou7483]

Do we know he was still practicing?

[@josephiniewa3454]

I was wondering if his memory etc was so bad, and early signs of dementia, why would his wife let him go off for days like that? My granddad had dementia and my gran wouldn't let him off to the shop on his own a 20-30 minute walk away?

[@UFOHUNT]

Facts

[@trashcanchic]

His loved ones don't want to admit that he enjoyed getting attention from these much younger women. He knew normally they wouldn't pay attention to a man his age but he knew money would talk. Why are the majority of comments acting like he was completely innocent and just wanted to "help"? He wanted something though, that for sure.

[@kimmycampc3800]

I feel like I'm missing a big chunk of this story. Everyone in this situation seems suspicious to me. The only innocent ones are her 2 children.

[@Justgirliethings6]

THIS!

[@spasticfurchild]

Yeah, he definitely seems like he had a double life going on

[@bbmiller1088]

Well thats what was shown in the video no?

[@Autumnpearly]

@@spasticfurchild no he didn’t. He was a sugar daddy. The family won’t say that but that’s what was going on. It’s very common.

[@whitedragoness23]

@@Autumnpearly how much money did this guy have? Especially to fund all these women and their lavish lifestyles?

[@KylePrime_1986]

Thank you for respecting Dr. Burchard. He became my doctor 28 years ago. He often bought my medication that I couldn't afford, if I couldn't afford my session he would have me come after hours and not charge me. As I became an adult I maintained my relationship with Dr B. He was a father figure to me, he was my hero. I will never get over losing him like this. I wouldn't have made it this far in life without him, Id probably be dead. He was the best doctor anyone could ask for, and even a better person. RIP Dr. Burchard I miss and love you, thank you for saving my life!❤

[@bayly1977]

Come one, his fixation with young woman was gross

[@devonkelly44]

these testimonials in the comments are so heartwarming. it's sad that good, generous, selfless people are so rare, causing Dr. Burchard's character to be questioned. im so glad you knew him and benefitted ❤

[@RJK1647]

Amen! ♥

[@apriltortorici9810]

​@@bayly1977that would be pretty much every man on this planet. Stop demonizing this man

[@rumblzs]

​@@bayly1977 he wanted to help all people, who need help.

[@Joseph-cu8lg]

I love the "she couldn't be responsible" statement. " I've never been responsible once in my life, so why am I now??"

[@cathimummery6873]

To sad should not be on air

[@leeroy4208]

I love that she thinks she's a model, she's not even 1/10 when fully made up, poor doctor

[@auzieblo]

@@cathimummery6873 what are you blabbing about???

[@julieannedomingo3360]

​@@cathimummery6873

[@bullast2046]

@@cathimummery6873 difficult to comprehend what you’re saying

[@rfrancoi]

She learned her manipulative skills from good old mom. Trash comes from trash.

[@atom0191]

True

[@LKCLifer]

I hope Nevada takes that trash to the landfill where it belongs.

[@Mamalee]

Yep

[@davidsimon9973]

@@Mamalee I’m

[@lisakaye3919]

But women like this are the reason I think the me too movement is BS!! I do not believe every person who cries SA! We should be focusing more on children who are being abused.

[@Sharon_L_W]

The way she values her own life so much, because 'you've only got one'... yet has no problem with ending someone else's.

[@Alyaahahahaaa]

Yea, the irony, or more appropriately her *hypocrisy* , does not escape me

[@jesusbuiltmyhotrod]

💯

[@babydriver8134]

Cops are like that.

[@rnbsteenstar]

No, we've lived multiple times. The roles might reverse!

[@NoSoup4U2]

Her comments and behaviors were learned actions Leigh. She's a sociopathic narcissist, and her lies that trapped him and his kindness prove as much. Sad to say, but todays generation has become so vain and self centered, they care only about one thing...t millennials & the generation that followed, are the worst, when it comes to, what I call, the "Me Me, or the Me First" generations in todays society. Of course not everyone within these two generations are like that, but statistically, they have proven to be the worse when it comes to self entitlement behaviors, including metal health issues like anti-social & narcissist behaviors, which also include traits of violence. One of the worse changes within these demographics has to do with an extreme increase in violence in young women between the ages of 13 & 28yrs. You'd be surprised how many teenaged murderers there are today, that are young girls, who come mostly from middle to upper class families. It's very scary, sad, but true of what I say. These behaviors and traits are often mentioned and can be easily found within medical journals and reports of today. The rise in society's violence, and acceptance of violence is greatly influencing our younger generations today, and it's possible, it will get worse before it gets any better. I certainly hope not though!! But, as always, that's just my opinion! :(((

[@peres9559]

Im a true crime junkie, but this story like no other made me sick and i want to cry. I cant't take any violence, but violence against children or old people is too much for me.

[@Bernie3000]

People like Kelsey (and sounds like also her mum) are the reason people shy away from helping strangers. Help out the wrong person and they will turn around and try to take you for everything you have. This story was truly upsetting.

[@janinemccartha1811]

Hi Beyond Evil. That girl is nothing but trash. Anyone who is that psychonarc doesn't deserve to have kids or a good spouse. RIP Thomas. I hope all people like them rot in hell. Peace to all the good people, not trash, love, Janine Smiley🌝🌞🌚🌛🌜🏡🚘🎡🎢🎠🇺🇸🇬🇧🆒️❕❗🦓🦄

[@1stgenerationtroll658]

Yes people like me . I know not to help most people. I know how a lot of people are.

[@d.j.daugherty4945]

Exactly. Heck even certain people in my own family only come around for money. I never assist people like this nut case

[@paulpalmer1690]

Respectfully, if you let them impact you like that then they win. It lets them build a world where cruelty in the face of kindness is the expected outcome, rather than the tragic exception. You should help with your whole heart, you will win doing so more often than you will lose.

[@TheVampirePredator]

Way to make him sound innocent in his own demise. The only way those pictures got saved on his phone is if he wanted them. Which means he asked for them.

[@Anthony-kp7sf]

its disgusting that this man was blackmailed by literally one of the most useless, worthless human beings ever. what's worse is that our court system allows this to happen, without any repercussions at all. if someone threatened to goto the police saying you're a rapist/abusive/molester/whatever, and it isnt true - you should be able to report that, and the person whose threatening this should goto jail for a minimum of 10 years. this is fucking ridiculous guys.

[@jairesemccoy9779]

It's because he was a man

[@jairesemccoy9779]

@carey ⚘️ If they're innocent then false allegations as dangerous as "sexual harassment" should be not effect them, and the person (usually a woman) should face punishment (probably the same amount of time the man would've faced if the allegations were actually true ).

[@silentwitness536]

Feminism is a terrorist organisation.

[@slovayer]

@@jairesemccoy9779 often men get like a year and their careers are barely interrupted even when true claims are proven in court lmao this isn’t the gotcha you think it is

[@mtpstv94]

Dangerous decision. As soon as you claim that someone threatened to say you are a rapist they immediately assume you are rapist trying to get ahead of your crime and cover yourself for coming allegations.

[@Bettinasisrg]

Those women make me sick! I was a single mom and worked my ass off. What she and her friends did is unforgivable.

[@tessaducek5601]

Same. I divorced and raised three children. Worked two jobs at a smidge over minimum wage. It was a constant struggle. I never once considered taking money from anyone. I did know women who used their kids as a boo hoo I need help scam. It turned my stomach. Especially when I had their children with me more then they did!

[@jennybeam7226]

Atta girl(s) after reading repies! (Commenting as a daughter/sibling raised by a single Mom!) You're all badass b**ches!❤️💪💙

[@tessaducek5601]

@@jennybeam7226 Thank You ❤️. Give your mom huge hugs... 🌹

[@atom0191]

@@tessaducek5601 more power to you

[@atom0191]

More power to you

[@stevensrocks798]

He must have been loaded, helped all those people AND built Jurassic Park. Hats off to the man.

[@ahambrahmasmi108]

😂😅

[@derekmarks1479]

😂😂😂

[@kwileby09]

Don't forget an entire career of composing the greatest scores of cinematic history!

[@tez11205]

😂😂😂

[@Gizziiusa]

ergo his moniker: Simpasaurus Rex. King of the Si-mps.

[@painestar]

How’s that one life working out for you, Kelsey? I feel bad for her children. One taken, one neglected, one she couldn’t even keep because she’s in prison.

[@kelligray1848]

So sad. People like her disgust me.

[@annmariemccoon]

Yep 👍 It’s sad 😢

[@rond5379]

he was into some dirty Shite. That's why he has sexual pictures in his phone from these girls he had to give them money. They knew they had some dirt on him and he knew it too. I believe he was a sex offender that's why he was stuck.

[@WobblesandBean]

Her mother was no better. I guess it runs in the family.

[@annmariemccoon]

@@WobblesandBean I know right 💯

[@michellementh9651]

@@WobblesandBean it's a cycle that they've learned through each generation.

[@thankyou4speakingup198]

Sounds like this doctor had an issue with healthy boundaries even before the signs of dementia. Sad but he really needed to be seeing someone for his own mental health.

[@tomharrity618]

So true

[@codyferrell1031]

Exactly 💯 Something was def off. That's sugar daddy activity.... But from the video - supposedly he wasn't one at all... Whole thing is weird.

[@eyebagsandhandbags6493]

@@codyferrell1031 sorry but feel he reminds me of customers at the club I worked at lmao like many doctors came in. Acted like this.

[@lucylovic]

Maybe.You are not an expert

[@marlenesollgruber9186]

And even if that were true, that deserves him to get killed? Seriously?

[@Campfire30]

Shout out to Judy Earp. She tried to warn him. She must have felt so terrible that she couldn't stop this, but at least she tried.

[@saranic8826]

look into the rosacrucians - she's representing them and is probably a witch

[@throwaw]

@@saranic8826 wow that's crazy and all but I've got a question: who asked?

[@Hasblock]

@@throwawlmfaooo

[@yoshi31713]

What an evil woman. Actually I understand when people are greedy - lots of people are, big deal. But being greedy is one thing. Being a homicidal maniac is a completely different story.

[@HeatherHolt]

“Fatherly relationships” I mean come on now. There’s a way to help women falling into street work but not giving to them directly.

[@StellaFl]

Yeah, fatherly to "models" only, smh

[@HeatherHolt]

@@StellaFl exactly!! lol exactly like I get not speaking ill of the dead but tell it like it is man

[@kelso300]

I’m glad someone said it…

[@jet6110]

Paranoid much

[@HeatherHolt]

@@jet6110 always

[@north_star_yt]

I'm going to come from a different angle just because. Yes, the Dr was a victim in this case and was cruelly killed but WHY would anyone give a stranger that much money for that long??? You can't save everyone on the planet. How is it he had dementia but he could board flights and travel by himself? Just because someone is highly thought of so highly thought of by peers and clients does not mean ppl can't live double lives or cover up certain details of what they're doing. Why did he have explicit photos of Kelsey mom on his phone? I just think there very well could be more to this story. I guess I'm more interested in the doctor's psychology then the gold diggers.

[@blackwidow8412]

I understand your point of view. I work in a hospital. The majority of patients with dementia, Alzheimers, or any form of mental impair is normally declared unfit and a trusted person makes decisions for them. I realize his reputation seemed extremely important to him but you'd think someone would care enough to intervene. This gold digger took advantage and the doctor's girlfriend was fully aware. This was a preventable tragedy.

[@alyciamarie4163]

Me as well! They also mentioned he was still working wtf? I need answers. I never heard of this case so it’s worth looking into

[@chellej8863]

And if you have a look her social media she seems to be well liked with lots of “free Kelsey” stuff claiming she’s innocent and a nice person. I can’t find any horrible comments …….weird

[@smurfylee]

yes I was asking myself those questions while watching!! And I think he initiated contact with her in the first place, i may have heard that part wrong but in any case it seems he was being somewhat of a pervert as he had those pics of the mother. I believe there are loads of details still being omitted.

[@trashcanchic]

Finally someone with common sense. Yeah right, he only sought out scantily clad women over half his age online out of the goodness of his heart 🙄. Give me a break. He enjoyed the sugar daddy role, let's not pretend he didn't.

[@starchild692]

You seem to portray him as a generous man doing acts of charity but the story doesn't line up.

[@christking85]

Yeah I really hate when they try to make the victim look like an angel. A guy who is seeking out troubled single moms raises some red flags

[@thecatatemyhomework]

A doctor should never give mothers of his patients money. It reeks of impropriety. That's all I'm going to say.

[@j.s.2281]

@@MomeGnome I feel like by now people would have spoken up about anything weird happening. He definitely isn't the first doctor to help his patients. I can see how people have trouble believing things like that can happen but they do. To be clear none of us has a clue as to who he really was and I'm not trying to come off differently but that's just my 2 cents lol

[@julesjule4580]

He was a creep either way. Without a doubt. Not buying this he is innocent act from all the facts here. Hopefully he didn’t abuse his child patients. Because then it’s more like karma found him.

[@j.s.2281]

@@julesjule4580 what are all the facts that I missed? Nobody has come forward saying he has acted inappropriately towards them. Even this lady wasn't sleeping with him. I'm just curious to hear your side of it because I can't be sure if I missed anything since I usually play these as I'm cleaning. .

[@stevensmith6984]

@@j.s.2281 he had “explicit photos” of Kelsey’s mom on his phone and was sending her money too.

[@j.s.2281]

@@stevensmith6984 oh yeah I completely missed that part

[@gaslitworldf.melissab2897]

You'd think a psychologist would know human behaviors like manipulation much better and have the skills to manage relationships more adroitly.

[@Anthony-kp7sf]

it doesnt matter if the court system is broken and society will automatically believe this woman if she says he's having a relationship with her. like, all she had to do was send him a nude photo and that's it she pretty much owns his life. that's reality. this is also why men really don't approach women very much anymore. its terrifying.

[@r.c.l2569]

It somehow makes it worse.

[@MrRisingapple]

He obviously had his own issues. He would have been better of wasting that money on prostitutes

[@egoleeech]

Somebody has never heard the word "dementia"

[@escapegoat2212]

@@Anthony-kp7sf Tbh I don't think it matters what she says. She was complicit in the murder. She will go to prison. And thank God for that!!

[@gabbycenni992]

Y’all he is not completely innocent though. Why would a man pay a playboy model just for nothing. It doesn’t make any sense. And that was his choice to make the bad decision of funding random ass girls.

[@DiagonalByte]

Maybe some people just have bigger hearts than you.

[@odarrien]

Is sickening how so many greedy, and often societally useless individuals, feel entitled to the hard-earned money of others - particularly those who have very generous hearts. Sometimes we help the wrong people because we have a soft heart for their sad stories even when we are unable to prove their situation.

[@Army4life82]

Damn those filters are the true definition of catfishing!!! This poor man lost his life at the hands of some true monsters beyond disgusting disturbing and heartbreaking

[@BrenMurphy1]

As a Child Psychology Graduate, I empathise with the good doctor taking an interest in trying to help a so-called vulnerable woman. We are all human, and we are sometimes tempted to intervene in situations where our good judgement might otherwise warn us of danger. Indeed a regrettable outcome for all involved. 🙏

[@scheezy]

@@BrenMurphy1 No. She is a monster.

[@Army4life82]

@@Mr8thwonderofthewrld no she is not she is a monster inside & out

[@Army4life82]

@@Mr8thwonderofthewrld I think you need your eyes examined. Ok we'll let her beautiful (NOT)🤮🤢self rot in prison then hell 👍

[@CellarDoorx06]

With those nasty looking flappy bags on her chest... she got scammed by somebody too 🤣

[@wubbiecat_2000]

I knew Dr. Burchard well. We were in the Magic club together. He was such a kind man and it broke my heart when he was brutally murdered. Our whole community was devastated. He is greatly missed.

[@north_star_yt]

Prove it. That's not too much to ask. Show us we can have faith in men like this.

[@helengormlie966]

@@north_star_yt Robin doesn’t need to prove anything to you. Get a life!!

[@wubbiecat_2000]

@@north_star_yt Prove what? That I knew him and he was a nice man, like by our whole community? You sound a little mental.

[@JD-vn2io]

@@north_star_yt look up the Dr Theadore Atlas Foundation it was a foundation started by Teddy Atlas the boxing trainer who named it after his father who Teddy Atlas says was a man just like this, you sound like a bitter clown

[@maniyah1219]

@@helengormlie966 she sure doesn’t it’s obvious what kind of man he was

[@rawfoodphilosophy7061]

How could the doctor practice medicine and have Alzheimer's at the same time?

[@mus139]

Dementia?

[@laurelvanwilligen9787]

I like the way you send condolences to victims' families at the beginnings of your videos. Very nice touch.

[@RaphaelDawkinsCombatRadio]

It ruins the video's because you know what happened straight away. He should leave the obituaries till the end.

[@scarlettbbtg9899]

I wish he did it at the end. Because we know what happens

[@laurelvanwilligen9787]

@@scarlettbbtg9899 I get what you're saying. It's weird though, because I'm someone who almost never hates spoilers. Sometimes in the middle of a good book I'll read the Wikipedia page because I want to be forewarned if my favorite character is going to die.

[@Nikki_with_the_blikki]

​@@RaphaelDawkinsCombatRadioI get that. But there's so few true crime documentaries that _don't_ involve murder or where it isn't super obvious who did it. If there are any major twists in the story, then you'll see they'll leave some things until the end. So it's not so bad🤷🏾‍♀️ if they're covering it, I know somebody died so now, tell me how🥴

[@augustbernard3396]

Please stop the angelification of the victims. Thomas had every right to not be murdered. And it seems like he was a generous, kind soul. Doesn’t mean he also wasn’t paying young hot moms for their company. He had explicit pictures of the MOTHER on his phone. In what world does a man give anyone 300k without expecting something? Most of us watching this channel are (I hope) mature adults and can handle nuance. That true crime producers seem to always need to do the “good vs evil” trope is getting old. Also, still a great well produced video! Thanks for the great content.

[@alyciamarie4163]

Well they also said she convinced her friends there was nothing sexual. Haha 😆 so I’m gonna say … yeahhh lol I gotta look into this case though bc it’s definitely intriguing

[@bellababooska4181]

I have a hard time believing his girlfriend knew and was okay with it. It all seems a bit odd. Lots to this story that is missing.

[@mimimoon9313]

It's like the elephant in the room the entire video.... Even if he was this trash woman's sugar daddy that doesn't mean he deserves to die They didn't have to make it seem like he was sending these single moms money out of the goodness of his heart and not the goodness of his lower half lol especially considering he contacted her first

[@UFOHUNT]

You said it, not me 😜shit is sooo annoying...they act like this dude was just a fkn philanthropist...I don't doubt he was a nice guy deep down, just a fucking pervert who was greedy and that ended up costing him his life. You should know as a doctor that this type of behavior can create these types of attachments. Obviously. People get killed over $20, let alone their entire lifestyle suddenly being taken from them, never having experienced consequences before is then a recipe for disaster.

[@privatechic33]

EveN If This Man Was PayIng FoR SoMe company, So Tf What! That doesn't Make him A BAD PERSON Or Justify Him Getting KILLED! THERE ARE STILL FEW GOOD PEOPLE IN THIS WORLD!

[@guywilliams6569]

Oh come on, this guy couldn't possibly think this girl actually liked him? These stories just piss me off, because everybody pretends to be so stupid...

[@shannondoyle2694]

So bloody true

[@Juanita7102]

Facts.

[@enochpowellslibrarian5595]

He was a pervert that payed for it obviously. People don't just give cash away like that for free, no matter how generous they are. Most people watching this are just stupid and gullible.

[@peggypeggy4137]

Catfishing. But extreme example of this

[@MijoShrek]

Kelsey found pictures of her mom were found on his phone. Hes sent a nude or bikini picture and it's a wrap.

[@jonathandeltoro7768]

But why he reach out to her? I feel like there’s a lot more to this story about Thomas that isn’t being told just for us to feel sorry for him.

[@brittanybradford5543]

Yeah… idk anyone giving someone $300k for no reason. No matter how well off they are.

[@TheRivalDestiny]

There is most definitely !!! This story barely touches the surface. His behavior with his young patients ie 'fatherly figure' is totally unprofessional. There is a bigger rock that needs to be looked under. Research Research Research!!!!

[@lizzi7128]

Remember he's not well mentally

[@Anthony-kp7sf]

probably manipulated him into sex, blackmailed him for the money, he tried to get out, she killed him. i don't think it's the way you think it is. lol. a guy with a track record like this just doesnt suddenly turn into a sleeze hound.

[@Anthony-kp7sf]

man ill never get tired of feminists validating and rationalizing blatant murder.

[@cjones1693]

It’s wild how people have been blessed with looks that opens every door and if they were just smart and a decent person they could do so much good but they don’t. It really makes me think it’s designed that way so the best people don’t get opportunity but the worst always make the world worse.

[@michellegable3191]

You really expect me to believe it was a plutonic relationship? Ha ha!! Come on people don’t be so clueless. You don’t give 300 thousand dollars to someone and not get something in return.

[@Spooky_515]

So you’re saying she’s a prostitute and a murderer? I can buy that

[@mkultraviolenc3]

I think you mean "platonic".

[@threethrushes]

@@mkultraviolenc3He was getting military grade plutonium from the murderess?

[@DiagonalByte]

Maybe he was just nicer than you. Some people are decent that way.

[@Chloe-de4ru]

I don't know how someone could be so cruel and take advantage of someone like that for so long. To not have a conscience at all, I cant imagine.

[@Magnetar_Haunt]

10:50 a little bit sketchy that he wouldn't let Judy come, nor listen to her at all, as if it was a necessity to see Kelsey in person to "ensure" anything. If you plan to inevitably cut it off, why does it matter if she's telling the truth or not? It sucks that he was murdered, but a lot of this doesn't add up in terms of sense and why he's so set on meeting her in person--Specifically without Judy.

[@GoddesssAphrodite]

They had a relationship. He wasn’t as innocent as this channel portrayed him

[@sunkissedbydrksknhypergamy3347]

I wondered this too. Why didn't he take the cops, to prove his case for the blackmail threats? Why hang out with that seedy group?

[@Magnetar_Haunt]

@@GoddesssAphrodite Yeah that's what I was sort of equivocating :p

[@minacakes2]

They said he got there on the 1st and on the 2nd the other sugar mama wannabe arrived and started chatting him up while the rest of the group was drinking...so he was over there for two days while they sat around and got drunk and belligerent. I guarantee he wasn't over there giving a Ted talk. A 15min visit would have given him all the information he needed to know.

[@seekingthemiddleway4048]

Strange how someone who was a people pleaser and co-dependent could also be a psychologist. So little self examination for all the examining of other people.

[@josephthybrother9534]

It is amazing how a psychological couldn't unmask a human chameleon!

[@AmusedGermanShepherd-er5gp]

Wow he was a human being, who suffered from dementia. That's why he didn't recognise the danger. A few years back he would.

[@aimeekova]

It was most definitely a sugar baby situation. Why was he partially dressed? Why the explicit photos of women? Why did he want to go there in person and hang out and drink with Kelsey? Doesn’t give any excuse to what she did, but the innocent nice guy helping a play boy model story; don’t rinse

[@brittanybradford5543]

I feel like there is a lot here that is being left out here. He gave her over $300k before he decided to cut her off. I don’t know anyone that generous

[@Anthony-kp7sf]

@@brittanybradford5543 i love how everyone is like "oh this is his fault because he gave a woman a bunch of money then decided it was a bad idea so she killed him" lol like even if that was happening she likely manipulated the situation, he was clearly trying to get out, and she freaking KILLED THE GUY. like wtf are you guys going on about? those details hardly matter lol

[@aimeekova]

@@Anthony-kp7sf I’m not a feminist no, but what man, gives a woman 300k for no reason? Maybe $100, maybe $1000 …. But 300k? … and then had explicit photos of her, and her mum? Why? How? Don’t be blind

[@Anthony-kp7sf]

@@aimeekova dude. imagine this - you're a psychologist and trying to help out women in need. you've been working with one for a while, helping her with money (the entire first half of this video talks about how he used to do magic tricks for young boys turning 1$ bills into 100$ bills and giving it them, he gave out A LOT OF MONEY not just to women). now imagine you're working with a woman, and one day she sends you a nude photo. you don't reciprocate, and you keep trying to help her because clearly this is not normal. maybe you even try to end the sessions then and there with her - she then says that she's going to blackmail you, saying you're having a relationship with her/other patients. she has her mom send nude photos to you as well. they tell you they will leave you alone if you send 300k. i mean honestly, how is that this hard for you to put together? he was manipulated. the 300k was likely blackmail money, and after that was sent he likely was not interested in sending any more so they killed him. the only piece of evidence pointing to any relationship with any of them is a picture from THIS WOMAN'S MOTHER. who was also his patient, and was also a terrible person. he didn't send photos to anyone. they sent him pictures. that doesn't mean ANYTHING TO ME. if a guy sends you unsolicited dick pics, does that mean you're in a relationship with him? absolutely not.

[@user-yw6bl7mi3e]

@Anthony Kind of agree! Also people have to remember, he has DEMENTIA. He couldn't make cognizant decisions, only what the remnants of his brain allowed him to remember: that he felt fulfillment in helping people. Personally, I think she definitely did manipulate him.

[@l.k.9666]

I get that no one wants to be accused of being a child predator, but I'm struck by how weird it is to me that a 71 year old man with deteriorating memory problems was concerned about the possibility of the end of his career. Retirement had to have been on his mind by this point, no? I wonder why the threat of these allegations was such a strong motivator for him to keep funding her?

[@aurorefrench7592]

I completely agree, i wonder if everything he did was to gain access to children (being a magician, a pediatric doctor, buying contact with disturbed mothers of young children).

[@betts12220]

Because he has something to hide. Thats why.

[@belladamex767]

Even having communication and probably getting nudes from with the parents of children is definitely breach of duty of care. Even though he’s at the end of his career he still wouldn’t want his legacy to be one of a pedo. He obviously liked women a whole lot and enjoyed giving them money. Nothing wrong with that but if he’s meeting them at work that’s kind of taking advantage of vulnerable women. Was he giving money to any strapped single dads out there? I’m just saying I agree that he was retiring but he still had a reputation to withhold as he knew even sending all these mothers money was wrong because let’s face it, if he wasn’t getting something out of it he wouldn’t have been doing it. Hence the term sugar daddy. They don’t just hand over cash coz they’re nice men 😂

[@kysparks]

it’s not abnormal for someone who built up a good reputation in their field to not want it ruined, whether they’re retiring soon or not. these allegations could also go beyond just a job. criminal charges could apply. I don’t think it seems suspicious that he cared about his own well-being.

[@l.k.9666]

@@kysparks The reputation part I get, but they framed his decision as based around his concern for his employment

[@DawgMama]

I am confused as to why he had explicit pics in his phone if his interest in these women was wholesome.

[@RoyalRoses]

Because it wasnt and people are ignoring it for some reason?

[@pinguufuuuu]

@@RoyalRoses literally what i'm thinking rn like no matter how "wholesome" you think it is... sending money to vulnerable women half of his age is VERY sus. a DOCTOR at that.. everything about this is weird.

[@mikeykrohn]

Still tho. You can’t kill him for being horny and supportive?!

[@tomharrity618]

It wasn’t wholesome.

[@jaydragon8936]

That’s quite simple, he was like most of us men unfortunately,,,, a Fukn pervert as much as I hate to say it 🤣

[@TheLochs]

Its sad to see him being taken like that, then killed. Its also telling that a very smart psychiatrist can be manipulated when he's an expert at human behavior.

[@alexandralucastarzacher3692]

The worst part is that he was probably so scared and killed so brutally…

[@cilverback]

Sorry, but when you said that he was interested in helping single mothers of children, Bill Murray in Kingpin came to mind. lol

[@jericsantos2202]

You got it all wrong mate,he helped not asking or waiting something in return after had helped them.these greedy women just pull some drama stories and an oscars award winning acting portraying that they are in great poor situation and instant money as simple as that.and mr.thomas not having any kind of bad blood he believed and helped them.he just met them because as a decent and educated man he want to end things right by talking to the person personally in a calmly manner and no bad allegations will be spreading behind his back to ruin his reputation that's why he went ther.

[@jericsantos2202]

Hope you don't get me wrong mate,have a good day and God bless

[@felixgotrek1]

"Sometimes when I wake up ,Mr McCracken is already here"

[@Adrian-zd4cs]

@@jericsantos2202 doesn't matter as a health care professional myself there are boundaries you don't cross and by financially assisting the mothers of his patients is crossing a boundary

[@cilverback]

@@jericsantos2202 Yes, I am aware of the reality. I was just seeing the comedy in the beginning of the story. He was a virtuous man that lost his teeth and became harmless. He was victimized by the malevolence of others. God bless you also.

[@ericastapleton7042]

That poor gentle man. RIP Thomas. You can't trust anybody. She's an evil human being. Thank you for this story Beyond Evil ☆

[@HumanimalChannel]

You think he was doing it out of altruism? Truly? Even the mother was sending sexual photos.

[@JJ-hr7dd]

Poor gentle man with her mothers vagina on his phone. Come on....

[@wtfdoiputhere]

Actually you can trust people, it's easy to tell when a single mom wants your money

[@ericastapleton7042]

He did have early signs of dementia ☆

[@catmuir7436]

@@wtfdoiputhere amen

[@belladamex767]

She was nothing but an average looking woman who thought too much of herself…

[@KDiamond666]

That’s why she never got anywhere in life and is where she is.

[@Spooky_515]

Yeah, she must’ve been able to suck the varnish off a wooden stool

[@kaysie11dh]

Definitely!!

[@RageBaby587]

No she was far above average. Sorry.

[@KDiamond666]

@@RageBaby587 simp

[@versaceboi4762]

The fact that he insisted on seeing her face to face to end things rather than just going NC with her leads me to think he definitely had feelings for her. There possibly was a sugar daddy thing going on here

[@ChrisP3000x]

Nothing gets by you.

[@TheVampirePredator]

Of course there was! It’s just this channel has a penchant for making the people killed look like they were total saints in their everyday lives and innocent of anything. A little advice when listening to True Crime podcasts: After you listen, research the case yourself or listen to multiple podcasts about the same case. Each podcaster is trying to float a narrative. Some are being informative and some (like Beyond Evil) try to ragebait.

[@thehangingparsiple5692]

@@TheVampirePredator @Mekon Headed Freak Of course. How likely would you be to watch this type of channel otherwise? They're all the same. There has to be an 'angle' otherwise it doesn't work

[@sol-leks6122]

@@TheVampirePredator ragebait.That's what they call this? Well you learn something new everyday, Thanks.

[@richardvacca5580]

wow you have unbelievable observation skills

[@nashmiddleton1763]

So he played along with the extortion scheme because he’d lose his practice…while being a elderly man with the dementia at the same time. Makes sense.

[@throwaw]

yeah those are serious accusations that don't need to be validated anymore these days, the guy would have his life turned to hell just for one worthless, manipulative bitch spreading them, it's a sad story

[@bayly1977]

Yeah it does not make sense at all

[@hightimecrime]

This story makes me so angry. It's very upsetting how these type of people are out there walking around.

[@bee.mice-elf]

Me: How did Kelsey grow up to be such a selfish, entitled bobble-head? Also me {sees photo of her mom at 15:21}: Oh.

[@TheNett23]

Yup 😂

[@wagashi]

Lmao

[@quant-trader-010]

Your comment deserves more 👍

[@xlov3lee]

LMFAO true true 👍😂💯

[@mamefosua]

As much I feel sorry for the doc, I think there is more to the story. No one is that gullible to a point of even giving Kelsey's mom money too. I bet he had some boundary issue that he was afraid to come out. Why her? If he wanted to be that generous, there were a lot of women's shelters he could have helped. This is not victim shaming. Kelsey is a gold digger but the doc was getting something for all his generosity.

[@POSTMASTER_Rion-Donald_Harmon.]

Maybe he's a pervy uncle with dirty fantasies

[@DiagonalByte]

Yeah, he was getting smeared by morons on the internet who decided no one has a kind enough heart to try and support people.

[@cali2878]

There is more to this story than being said. He had a thing for her. She probably did sleep with him. No dude pays that much out of the kindness of his heart.

[@swallowedinthesea11]

He was a riotous SIMP!

[@AutumnBRreeze]

Exactly! I suspect these other women he was "so generous" with just happened to be attractive females also, Lol it's crazy how people ignore the obvious because they're told.

[@anhedonianepiphany5588]

How sad that your mind cannot manage to stretch further than this. I’m hardly surprised, just disappointed.

[@gunnerarshavin2009]

I don't know the facts of this case in detail, but a mild grade of dementia could contribute to this kind of scenario. Not everyone with dementia is totally crazy or disorganized. I know a friend who had to chase a woman out of her dad's house when she found out he that he had just met her that day, and already he was asking the strange woman to take appliances out of his home as a "gift".

[@KashBeck]

Yep, no way he didn’t sleep with her. He even had explicit photos of her mother. Not saying he deserved it but dudes own actions led to his death.

[@alideasy4147]

even though he Died and not victim shaming there were some serious boundary issues with his clients

[@scheezy]

You're literally victim shaming.

[@marieogara1036]

@ali Deasy 1) "even though he Died ..." Tiny correction ---- He was brutally battered to death, murdered by a group of people , now on trial. 2) "... and not victim shaming ..." You are victim shaming and blaming, and your "even though' appears to justify his murder -- his own fault. 3) "... there were some serious boundary issues with his clients ...". There you make a serious point, a real medical ethics issue, which should be investigated. This is not that investigation, it is a trial for his murder, and not by one of his clients.

[@brookiegremlin6660]

i agree. idk why people think they need to whitewash victims and portray them inaccurately. This dude was gross.

[@Hey_Joosh]

@@brookiegremlin6660 Being a sugar daddy is nothing compared to these gremlin-like women. That’s the real monster. She and others like her are leeches.

[@shroomshroom5945]

@@scheezy saying a single fault in a person who was murdered is not victim shaming 😂

[@fightingfisherman9690]

This story don’t make sense. Making out he was saint in this. So his girlfriend was ok with him talking to always pretty single mums and give them money and gave 350k away just to one woman. And his girlfriend was ok with that. And not only was he giving money to her mum too and had naked pic as well. So weird. But only helping her out. That’s more than helping someone out.

[@Pucksndeep6]

It doesn't even seem real! It's absolutely terrifying that there are monsters like this.

[@loveforeignaccents]

"She felt entitled"... you definitely got that right!

[@wesleyswaters8643]

Sure seems like he wasn't being as honest as it is made to seem. I just smell fish. It's truly hard for me to see any man who's willing to be such a sugar daddy for a length of time without expecting something in return.

[@aocroissier]

Agreed

[@anhedonianepiphany5588]

You are obviously only acquainted with very ordinary types of men.

[@teejames5098]

Exactly, the wife knew too, she knew that was his vice and she's old and wise enough to know to allow him to live the way he chooses until he thinks he's had enough.

[@a.j.6432]

I actually have met ONE man like this. He was actually a sexual (IMO) and just wanted friends. Everyone he befriended he ended up supporting including me when I was in my early 20s. He was in his forties at the time and kindly gave me a job, paid for my rent and all types of shopping that he came along with me to do just to have company and he refused to let me ever get the bill. We went to sports games, concerts you name it and We never even kissed! It just wasn't like that. He had alot of money and his own business that he spent most of his life getting off the ground so he didn't have much social time when younger and was still a work-a-holic. He didn't drink or smoke or anything. Completely straight edge. Unfortunately, alot of women took advantage of his kindness and I feel that during that time I really was his only true friend and tried to get him to cut off the other people (It was not just women he was supporting) but he just had a heart of gold and couldn't. We ended up falling apart when I moved away but even now he's a great man. I moved back years later with my husband and kids and he immediately offered my husband a job and was great to my husband as well. He is the only person I have ever met that was this generous that really only wanted friendship in return and had good morals. No funny business. I have never come across another person like him and I doubt I ever will. So it does happen, however it is rare. To be honest, I would think my friend was also a sugar daddy looking for sex in return had I not spent years with him and him alone daily. Trust me, he wasn't looking for that from me or anyone else. Just a kind gentleman that believed in sharing what he had with those he cared about.

[@zandee4893]

It happens though

[@hayden823]

Disgusting POS. I feel bad for the Doctor and his family. It's fine to help people in need but there is a limit to it especially when the person you're helping is a scum bag. I don't get people like these. She was being helped, the least she can do is make her life productive and not live like she's rich when she's NOT. That's why some people don't help anymore because of abusers like these.

[@muszr00m]

For some people all common sense goes out the window the moment anyone mentions Instagram likes

[@divinecommerce3912]

"help" aka glorified pr0st1tution smh

[@user-x57620fzmt]

I'm not sure how to think about this. Kelsey is vile for sure but how did they meet and what was that "relationship" about? I also think it's time for the society to stop praising someone that has no boundaries. Being kind is one thing, but to give to this extent isn't healthy and most of time that kind of kindness has underlying issues and intents.

[@allnighter2011]

I am not buying this story.. she's certainly evil and he certainly didn't deserve to die... but I am not buying this angel story of someone giving with no limit for no reason... clearly something was going on that he was giving her this much and even insisted to fly to Vegas alone to go to her.. also when she blackmailed him about something to do with his children patients, there's something to that, not buying that he succumbed to the blackmail when there's absolutely no shred of truth to it

[@PenskePC17]

​@@allnighter2011well, you should. With all the media coverage people would have 100% come forward and no one did.

[@heathertaylor8904]

This destroyed me to listen to. Someone very much like him saved my life when I was ready to end it all. I was struggling with homelessness and addiction and a man named Keith pulled me out of it. Never asked for anything in return, other than to live the life he saw me capable of. With his faith in me I slowly built a small business and pulled myself out of the depths of hell. Clean 6 years now, never looked back. We just buried him due to covid about a year ago. The generosity this man displayed... it just breaks my heart to think of anyone taking advantage or harming him in any way. He was truly too pure for this world. It seems our doctor friend was too. So many leeches and parasites out there with no souls. Rip sir.

[@anamkarajoy]

This caught my eye because my uncle Keith died of Covid last year. He and my aunt ran a program which worked with and housed troubled youth. Probably a coincidence, but it gave me a little shiver to read your comment. I’m very proud of what they’ve accomplished.

[@bostonb4kedbeans]

Yeah well were you fucking Keith for money? Was Keith your sugar daddy? Then it's not similar at all

[@heathertaylor8904]

@@bostonb4kedbeans aw.. somebody's jaded as fuck 😅 sorry for whatever happened to you to make you so bitter, but I would've agreed with you before I met him. No, my husband had just died, and his wife was dying of cancer, and we met at a grief support group.

[@rainbowgold6410]

What?

[@heathertaylor8904]

@@anamkarajoy he wasn't in florida was he? He and his wife did a lot of that before she got sick. He didn't want to burden her with it when she was so sick, but I think it gave him hope to help a lot of us that didn't have a good start to life or family to help. Truly the best souls, the most selfless I've ever known.

[@isadiasheikh]

Why did Dr. Thomas messaged her in the first place? She was posting on her social media to show as if she had it all, why would he msg such a party girl?

[@Ladyjojo695]

A lot of these men do it. Idky. I’ve had lots offer money and tbh I find it disgusting. These women see an easy target. My ex was like it with women.

[@Spooky_515]

Why does it matter? No matter what it was consensual. Obviously a nutjob feminist trying to make this about his ethics instead of human garbage having dude murdered

[@Bradphil87]

Why would she message him back? I’m sure a former playboy model has hundreds of messages left on read in her inbox. Perhaps they both were seeking something mutually beneficial and then she started to blackmail him for more like this story says. It could be both. Could’ve started with him paying for pics or attention or whatever and turned into something very bad for him.

[@aye70aye]

He did it to many, many hot mums apparently. Poor partner Judy

[@keatonmask1918]

@@Spooky_515 Touch grass

[@HeyitsBri_]

What this actually sounds like: This man was an experienced sugar daddy. Why else would he keep/receive such photos of the women he was helping get by? His magic tricks and antics about helping them were probably a way to explain to his wife why sooo much money slips out of their accounts. He was picking up disadvantaged women at his practice, women he knew for a fact were struggling financially. Que Kelsey. Sounds like Kelsey was a favorite so he started shelling out more than usual and his wife found out so he made it seem like he didn’t know what was going on and she was the problem. He funded her life and knew it. He didn’t go to see if she was sick, he went out there for a “visit”. If it were about the kids he would’ve stopped when she lost one (funny how he didn’t investigate that in person) and it’s pretty ironic her other kid wasn’t even home when he went out there. Kelsey probably didn’t care her mom was on his roster, she just needed his money and stuff went left. Still a shame what happened, though

[@saranic8826]

the woman he's photographed with, is always wearing roses - ode to rosacrucians. he's taking photos in what looks like some occult society - they're not all that secret anymore, but the fact that he was into magic, and psychiatry sometimes showing up w/ mind control, kitten programming and his focus on children and single mothers....well, it's the truth of the actual world we live in. they might have been victims of mind control and abuse but being paid to remain quiet.

[@JimBob-rz7uy]

Baseless claims

[@aweewa5659]

I know of a man that passed after helping several young women. He would pay their university tuition. Roughly, he helped ten different ones with lots of money. He would have one on each arm.

[@Fucyallfr]

Yep

[@VanillaMacaron551]

Cue.

[@lflipsss]

Wow - this really leans hard into painting this guy as some kind of saint. He sounds like a dirtbag hiding behind the privilege of a doctor.

[@Morgan_Layfay]

Agreed.. predatory as hell.

[@DiagonalByte]

Do you have any evidence, or are you just smearing the reputation of a dead man on the internet because it makes you feel good inside?

[@jordanskidmore3590]

Not saying he deserved it, obviously. But you made him out to be an angel. Interested to know if he ever helped anyone he didn’t find sexually attractive. 🧐🧐🧐

[@hansonallie]

Right?! I’m sure if we were to go through his phone we’d find a healthy representation of women who’ve been horribly disfigured by domestic violence/ a fire/ an accident who he is generously providing financial aid to as well. Wouldn’t we?? ;)

[@Anthony-kp7sf]

literally the entire first half of the video talks about how he helped mostly younger kids by doing magic tricks and giving them money. did you even watch this?

[@p.k.6896]

@@Anthony-kp7sf you’re so gullible and naive

[@alideasy4147]

im with ya there are some serious boundary issues on his part. Not to say he deserved to be offed by any means this girl was a piece of work but im with ya Jordan

[@Spooky_515]

@@p.k.6896 yeah victim shaming is expected if it’s a rich white man!

[@BadB3rries]

It’s always those good people who loses their lives at the hands of an evil human

[@gliderreserve9544]

I was told kindness is seen as a weakness to these evil beings. Who taught them that? Life?

[@BadB3rries]

@@gliderreserve9544 probably because once a person show excessive amount of kindness to everyone, there are some people who’ll take advantage of them, and sadly that’s just how life is.

[@celianorris7042]

Everything in moderation including kindness. The problem is when you give too much. The person on the receiving end becomes the "spoilt brat" and has no respect for the giver and no self respect and will sink to the lowest levels of getting their way the easy way, instead of working for it. There is a truth in the saying " you need to be cruel to be kind". I have learnt in life that when you take pity on someone you will definitely end up feeling sorry for yourself.

[@BadB3rries]

@@celianorris7042 I agree

[@truthhurts2879]

Familiarity breeds contempt.

[@aprilcanipe2614]

I find it very, very hard to believe this man wasn't getting anything out of this

[@scheezy]

Victim blaming

[@ileanamuntean7338]

@@scheezy The usual teen psychobabble, commenting on circumstances does not mean "victim blaming". Plus, victims are not necessarily angels, a r s e hles or paedos can be victims, too.

[@scheezy]

@@ileanamuntean7338 "Teen psychobabble" lol calm down Karen, stop victim blaming 🤢

[@teejames5098]

come on, we all know he wasn't just "helping" these women, he was a sugar daddy and the wife knows..I watch another doc on this..they all know he was with the girl...he didn't deserve that though..she was wiked

[@ileanamuntean7338]

@@teejames5098 Predatory behaviour comes with its own risks.

[@roybailey1134]

The greed of some people is like a drug, sometimes I feel like I don't want to be in this world, the only people who seem to care about you all out to get from you what ever they can , and when you have nothing left to give they don't want to know you , what a sick world we live in.

[@lizzysimner7715]

Totally agree when the cupboard is empty they find a new mug to stock it back up animals are better

[@kristinaschmit8009]

Let us not clutch our pearls & pretend that this was a purely innocent exchange. He also got something. He was no saint. RIP Thomas

[@GoddesssAphrodite]

Exactly

[@trashcanchic]

Yes, thank you!!! Everyone in the comments is pretending like we all don't know what he was actually after.

[@chelleyd4020]

Consential sex doesn't make you some sort of deviant

[@kristinaschmit8009]

@@chelleyd4020 No it does not. BUT, whom you intwine your life w/ can make you vulnerable to whatever baggage comes w/those choices. RIP Thomas. I’m sorry you made those choices.

[@shroomshroom5945]

@@chelleyd4020 no not at all, but lying about the sex and pretending to be a saint, is kinda effed

[@linnlam3952]

She’s definitely a crazy insane heartless human however let’s not act like he’s just a innocent man completely!

[@poopsndjjdks6438]

Right all the nudes in his phone and paying her mother. Dudes was a creep.

[@tedunderhill8195]

Nah, I'm going to act like he's innocent, because he is. His mistake was allowing himself to be taken advantage of. And that seems mostly due to his nature and declining mental capacity. You might have had a point if he was just being generous so he could romp in the sack with her. But that didn't appear to have happened. I

[@linnlam3952]

@@tedunderhill8195 Nobody deserves to be killed. The girl is a true nut case. However he had no business messing with that girl. He was married and also she was super young. He was getting something out of the deal. Again, doesn’t mean he deserved to be killed.

[@aliceinlallaland]

Oh come on - where did he find these women? And you mean to tell me he was paying her for years for absolutely nothing? And he went to meet her just to say it’s over .. Right

[@bellakatherman1477]

What do you think his real motives were?

[@nunceccemortiferiscultu7826]

@Bella Katherman Alice is likely projecting the experiences she's had with the men she's chosen onto the doctor.

[@emp9413]

It's not impossible. When you assume you make an ass of you and me.

[@Spooky_515]

She has a man murdered and you’re concern is if he was having sex with these women lol wow

[@retsoptihs0]

I don't think his intentions are relevant considering he was brutally murdered. Yes, he wasn't perfect, and didn't choose his "friends" wisely, but nobody is. I'm not liking some of the comments about his behaviour as they appear to be suggesting he deserved what happened to him. It doesn't matter why he flew to Vegas to meet her when we're talking about a murder victim.

[@TheAlpineShepherdBoy]

"Turner’s sentence on a second-degree murder charge was the result of a plea deal with the state that guaranteed she would be eligible for parole in 10 years if she accepted an Alford plea, according to court documents." I really hope they deny her parole after 10 years. That's disgusting she got off so light.

[@mr100x3]

She was an abusive manipulator, but they seem to be hiding something about Thomas, his Alzheimer’s isn’t as bad if they still allow him to be a child psychologist.

[@saranic8826]

I see a lot within the photos they use, the woman seems associated with rosacrucians and he's standing infront of a large owl and a lot of symbolism that points to occult knowledge. a lot of psychiatrists have ties to mind control or kitten programming. but, i have no idea, just observances from the photos

[@istenfasz]

*psychiatrist

[@jessicaellina3878]

He managed to get himself to L.V on his own and track her down, even though he couldn,t get home from the s/ market..strange

[@iangray1980]

They are. Other documentaries about this cover that fact that the authorities believe he actually was molesting her children and that was part of the reason for the payouts and for her losing her kids. This channel did not tell this case correctly at all. Not saying she's a good guy but he definitely was not

[@pearlwhite3009]

Good, kind people like the good doctor are a target for evil, conniving criminals. Y'all stay safe out there, and keep an eye out for those in your life who are naive and trusting.

[@evelina787]

Extremely true, God bless you It's so horrendously sd when you eventually see, you've had the wool pulled over your eyes&been deceived 😢🍀🙏

[@DroneStrike1776]

His intentions might've been good, but he was clown ass liberal simp. Gullible mentality thinking everyone can be helped. Judy allowing it to happen because they probably had an arrangement. They're so detached from reality. Hence why crime is up in all liberal cities, they think giving government aide will stop people from committing crimes.

[@gleefulme9617]

The good doctor was played like a fiddle. He was mentally imbalanced.

[@gleefulme9617]

We're told to be as wise as a serpent & gentle as a dove.

[@tommyharris5817]

Maybe he wasn't so good. He could've been abusing children and she found out.

[@timeittakestoletgo1687]

Should he have lost his life? No. But don’t give me this, “it was totally innocent!” shit. He’s ONLY giving money to vulnerable, hot young women? Give me a break.

[@NachoAE360]

Yeah I heard that and I’m like oh he’s one of those dirty old men huh lol

[@r.c.l2569]

I feel ya, it’s insulting to the viewers imo.

[@JohnnyLaps]

She is a Playboy model? That explains the drop in subscriptions!

[@happy_bubble7]

You're not struggling to make ends meet if you live a life that way. She makes single moms look bad. No way. She's just self centered and uses the kids for financial and emotional manipulation when it suited her. And he clearly was unfaithful to his wife. A good man doesn't have dirty pictures of other women on hs phone. Doesn't mean I think he deserves it, but... Truly... That's inappropriate for a married man.

[@444onthefloor]

He was not married to her

[@jordan_roadhouse4798]

Yayy, victim blaming! 😁 partay time!

[@aq1184]

This is an interesting comment. I noticed how you're distracting from the fact that Kelsey was a murderer by bringing up other more relatable aspects of her life, up until you brought up a totally nonexistent point to justify the murder. At first I thought it was classic psychological distancing and somewhat relating to the murderer until you half-ass victim blamed. I'm left trying to figure out which is worse. Either way you certainly identify more with the murderer than the victim here and you sound like a terrible human being. That's basically average for y'all these days tho.

[@happy_bubble7]

@@aq1184 Congrats on getting what I said absolutely twisted in your mind. I did not relate to her, nor justify the murder.

[@happy_bubble7]

@@444onthefloor he was married to his wife, and had dirty pictures of other ladies on his phone. Bad husband decision in my opinion, but as I said... Doesn't justify murder.

[@aprilreign1034]

Yeah, I'm sure she was a gold digger. But, I'm also sure he was trying to buy her "affection".

[@welzkelz8691]

Totally agree. Would he have been as generous if she had hadn't been young and pretty? K

[@r4yrayne]

@@welzkelz8691 why does that matter? he literally died and you’re trying to make him out to be a bad guy or something

[@sakurahayakawa8701]

He had dementia. Pretty sure he doesn't remember what he was doing

[@aprilreign1034]

@@sakurahayakawa8701 my grandfather had dementia. This is not how dementia works. The narrator of the story was very one sided. When you truly have dementia, you get lost walking down the street. Dementia makes you forget the people in your life. My grandfather had no idea who I was. Anyway, it's a tragedy what she did to him. But, I don't believe that he was the nice guy the narrator made him out to be. He was paying and wanted something in return. Maybe some "sexy pictures" maybe "affection". The girl did get mad when he had someone else's sexy pics on his phone. He was a dirty old man! He should have been home with his wife.

[@silex9837]

@@aprilreign1034 You are moralising. If he's not breaking the law, he can do whatever he likes. Obviously he wanted sex with a young beautiful woman, nothing wrong with that. He lacked youthfulness and money compensated for that. Simple as that.

[@ThePimmy11]

The phrase "you can't con an honest man" comes to mind

[@AnangryLibertarian]

I like how these generous guys always seem to really want to “help” hot chicks lol

[@loveforeignaccents]

Kelsey's mom, too... geez, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree, that's for sure!

[@missmeesh]

Judy must have been very understanding and patient to even be okay with her husband giving random women money. I’m not blaming her or him, just pointing out that I’d never be as strong as her to have handled that.

[@aggrogator4045]

You spelled "stupid" wrong.

[@RaccoonNation]

@@aggrogator4045 😏

[@loveforeignaccents]

First of all, it was NOT her husband; they were simply boyfriend/girlfriend, and in that regard, she has no right to tell him how to spend his hard-earned money.

[@marymurray3298]

Yeah it's called jealousy

[@kanthony65]

@@loveforeignaccents You sound like you grew up in the 50's. Pretty sure the comment wasn't referring to the financial aspect of the situation.

[@DILLIGAFCREEK]

Rest in peace sir. Generosity is great but, we must be wary of scum. This is a sad story.

[@MUFY-THE-CAT]

The fact that he booked his fight from March 1st to the 4th is a sign that he was getting something out of all this. He didn't just go there to end things with her on a 4 day long conversation.

[@Da_Love74]

Oh definitely...the video portrays him as a righteous old man but it's easy to see he was a pervert and was getting something out of it.

[@STYLZINC]

Him getting in the car with the roommate obviously shows he was still trying to get active

[@lukaszzylik4437]

Yeah. There's a lot of fluff and downplaying the nature of the victim. I kinda understand because it's the victim, but it gets everyone nowhere when trying to understand what happened here.

[@mariannezwicker3304]

Wow, makeup can do a lot! Between that and filters, she looked like a different person. She was hiding the ugly, both inside and out. What evil!

[@genesisv]

i haven’t finished watching the video but saying “bratz doll” is so generous of you because it looks terrible smudge and blur tool using lol modeling but looks like your run of the mill addict

[@ScottyPeabody]

Even most addicts have a conscience. She’s subhuman, and addicts would be ashamed to be mentioned with her. I know, I was one.

[@kanthony65]

Too bad there isn't anyone who can run a reverse photo-shop on people's Instagram pics. I bet that would be equally hilarious/shocking 🤣

[@jairesemccoy9779]

This man is spittin

[@amandarogerson9132]

@@kanthony65 there is a guy that had a KZbin channel with very little subscribers, I don't even remember the name or if it even still exsists, but he would like Photoshop out people's plastic surgery and take off any photo shop that they might have used. And people would look way different , most of the time better and more normal and more attractive honestly. This was years ago that I remember watching it.

[@amythus6139]

Like mother like daughter.

[@draegon4982]

Whenever I hear stories about these "instagram Models" or people like this that feel so entitled it has never ended well. Tragedy that could have and should have been avoided but such is the state of our society. DISGUSTING!

[@Queenofthegingers]

I genuinely don’t understand how a woman could put herself in a position where she is depending solely on another person or in this case, a man. Get a job and work for what you want, that way if something happens between you and other person, your life doesn’t change much. You’re still able to live the life you want. It’s mind blowing to me. NEVER depend on another person! Divorces, cheating spouses, a significant other dies etc. all situations where if you’re not proving for yourself, you’re going to be on struggle street. Be smart! ❤

[@orionxtc1119]

Gold diggers like her are everywhere.... manipulative narcissist's

[@bhealey528]

I work with elderly people and many are so kind vulnerable and loving. This honestly is the most horrifying and sickening case I've ever heard and the first time I've ever been not able to listen to the whole thing because it hurts so much to hear what happened to that sweet old man. My heart goes out to those who knew him. He was a blessing that this world didn't deserve.

[@Monika-bc3dq]

Sorry, but from the start I didn't believe there was nothing sexual between him and the women that he was paying, but having sexually explicit picture on his phone from one of the women that he was sending money to just proved it. I don't believe he was as saint as this video is trying to portrait him as.

[@JTAH86]

I think it was much worse. I won't say how lol bc people will get really mad. But the details about Thomas sound too strange.

[@Anthony-kp7sf]

@@JTAH86 really? why? there is literally no evidence suggesting anything otherwise. you're just making things up. lol. its okay that you "think" something else happened but there is quite literally no evidence supporting that and there's a ton of evidence supporting the opposite... sooo... like.. wtf? is this how we do courts now?

[@ChristyLynn313]

red flags went up when he paid her off not to report him for child sa... I wonder if she was p*mping her kids out to him..

[@elora2525]

Of course not he had all that money not because he always a very kindly generous men that just wanted help women .

[@JTAH86]

@@elora2525 there's such a thing as too good to be true.

[@Wispertile]

Out of hundreds of true crime cases I’ve seen this one was one of the saddest to me.. and most relatable to poor Thomas. He didn’t have any family but was still so kind. The most kind and beautiful souls are somehow always targets. What is it people take kindness as weakness?

[@sunshinehoward9649]

first love your name. second, there is a lot of taking kindness for weakness.

[@genetmom4794]

Agreed. This one depressed me more than most cases

[@sunshinehoward9649]

@@MomeGnome this is where young people do not understand, we were taught differently. you don't text people we didn't grow up that way. when you want to break up or stop something you do it face to face. you seriously think he stalked her? he was done and already told her that. she is the one who called him up while in vegas lying about her son. i think once he saw what was going on when he got there. he was done and you didn't hear about her roommate's girlfriend going after him either? which apparently made kelsey go ballistic? i am so sad so many think men are some kind of monsters. when it is obvious that men and Women can be monsters. evil is evil and that man was NOT evil she is.

[@billyyank5807]

​@Mome Gnome he stalked her to Vegas? He was paying for the house in his name. He was funding her entire life. If that's what you consider stalking goodness, no wonder this world is f'd.

[@Wispertile]

@@billyyank5807 Right agreed. He phoned her to let her know he was coming, she dodged his calls and then realized she couldn’t get away with stealing his money anymore, it was in that moment she decided to off him with her thug life bf.

[@rachelbarr1563]

He was still practicing as a child psychologist despite dementia diagnosis rendering him Unable to find his way home from shop?

[@aleahjones]

I have to question the motives of a man that seems to reach out to help only hot IG girls. They can do whatever they want, but you ain't gotta lie to kick it. He's still a victim.

[@darlenetroise7079]

I'll say it, it's really fucking sus that this guy is just a "harmless nice old man"... I don't believe it.

[@prettykittycakes]

Exactly!! They are making him seem like a saint and anyone who pays for sex isnt that.

[@itwantsrevenge]

And the fact that he needed to cut her off in person and his wife couldn't go with him to do it... uhhh

[@jonathandeltoro7768]

Same.

[@TheNuckinFoob]

I get that 99.9% of people today are legitimate, coddled, self-entitled, ignorant and obnoxious trash but there's still a few that aren't. He didn't have sex with any of the women he helped nor did he ever expect anything in return except a willingness from them to try and better their lives. He was either incredibly naive or just a plain, old fashioned wishful thinker to expect anyone he helped was even remotely interested in supporting themselves at any point. I'm not saying he was a Saint, I didn't know him, but the fact that you're immediately calling HIM out as sus for being murdered because he wanted to stop paying for someone else's lifestyle says a lot about you and where you fall on the spectrum of being either a good person or trash. Just sayin'.

[@SweetTooth8989]

I mean if there's evidence of him doing that, fine but if not that's just jumping to conclusions and that only makes things worse. I get that many guys in his type of position are usually paying for something in return but there are some well off men out there that just enjoy helping others.

[@neintoten6155]

I seriously doubt the "good" doctor's intentions were as pure and selfless as this show depicts. The whole thing miserably fails the sniff test.

[@tamaustralia4949]

💯 Percent this stinks of deviance

[@Dumo917]

Glad someone notices it

[@leoborganelli3558]

Spot on

[@RageBaby587]

I agree totally

[@Hey_Joosh]

Could be. Still I bet he is 10x the man than you are when it comes to helping others. Guaranteed.

[@Argeaux2]

Poor Thomas. No one deserves to die that way, least of all someone so helpful.

[@trishaeverton9592]

She wasn’t pouting her lips, she’s either had hella fillers or she’s had lip implants.

[@sunshinehoward9649]

that's where 300.000 went. absolutely NOTHING to show for all that money.

[@joycebrackbill3577]

I agree because in one photo her lips were thin. Later they got big. Self absorbed!

[@AABB-bm9kk]

She looks like an adult version of Jon-Benet Ramsey 🤷‍♂️

[@shamalamadingdong1417]

I THOUGHT THE SAME EXACT THING!

[@AABB-bm9kk]

@@shamalamadingdong1417 😀✌️

[@Lollita23]

Omg totally

[@Spooky_515]

Only not as smart

[@AABB-bm9kk]

@@Spooky_515 Ha! Or as mature ! 😄

[@itsahellofaname]

How does someone manage to live for 71 years when they're so incredibly naive? Damn, he was an easy target. As for Plastic Girl, I hope she gets life without parole.

[@kated3165]

He was getting old and suffering from dementia...

[@itsahellofaname]

@@kated3165 Yet still practicing, according to the video, so he wasn't too far gone

[@Bradphil87]

His mind was going unfortunately and she took advantage of that…..

[@TheDJMeyer85]

I’m so confused he had explicit photos of her mom and he was also giving money to that same mom? Just seems odd