The Victory Makes HOW MUCH horsepower?

[@vincenttarquini4235]

Just happened to come upon your channel. I own a 2010 Victory Vision Tour. So far parts have not been an issue and my local Indian dealership used to sell the Victory line and are very good with it. What we are finding out here in SD is a renewed interest in Victory and they sell as fast as they come in. The 106 engine is extremely reliable as well as economical. I look forward to following you endeavors in the future.

[@stevem9766]

2015 Vision tour here . It is a very comfortable and seems to be very reliable. I’m enjoying mine . BlueRidge parkway area .

[@MotoMischief]

I have an 06 victory vegas, with 106" stroker kit, high compression pistons, 495 cams, torque tubes, wrapped santa rosa pipes, flashed ecu, pc5, scorpion slipper basket, barnett clutch w/heavy duty springs, and upgraded my clutch to a hydraulic using parts from a victory vision. Had it tuned, and my numbers are 112.93 hp @ 5530 rpm and 124.59 ft/lb @ 4250 rpm

[@williamrose2506]

One thing the 2:1 exhaust does is eliminate a lot of vibration. Those stock cans vibrate a lot.

[@dylanvisitacion8618]

Keep the Victory videos coming 👍 Great content, this channel is going to take off.

[@blkhawkdoc6248]

Love the bike. I have a 2015 Victory Vegas 8Ball with pretty much the exact same mods except a different exhaust. When I installed the power commander 5 on mine, the instructions had me disconnect the wiring for my O2 sensors so you should check that since all the fuel air ratios are adjusted during the dyno tune. The O2 sensors are just left there to keep the holes in the exhaust plugged up.Look into getting a Loydz quarter turn throttle ring. They are cheap and easy to install and you will love it. Also, you said you put 4 quarts of oil in. Check your oil because they should take 5.

[@zurn56]

The spark plug wires are more of an efficiency thing. I would recommend a "preformance" coil pack & irrudum plugs. If you don't upgrade the plugs with it, it's more than lickly you will need new plugs soon anyway. Learned that with on old jeep. Found your channel through this vid. I just got a 2011 Victory Vegs 8-Ball. I have plans for this thing

[@GhostRider-gv3uq]

I have the 2016 gunner...one of the best bikes I've owned so far... Most indian dealerships will work on victory.

[@evelkoloski]

bone stock 12 Highball, factory stage 1? super happy with it, pry it from my cold dead fingers

[@irvwayshort9566]

100 miles after my first oil change (performed by a non-Victory-specific mechanic) I started getting that hydraulic lifter tick. I looked at the filter they installed and I'm guessing they didn't use Victory oil. I too have heard the Victory oil is specifically designed for their motors and will almost eliminate the tick. I've put 2k miles on it since the oil change and the tick is so aggravating to me that I've ordered the Victory oil change and am going to do it before 3k miles. The tick is an annoying noise that no matter what day I'm riding makes me feel like my bike is falling apart.

[@billsfabworks3188]

Same brother it annoyed the hell out me even with music playing! After the oil change with victory oil and filter it took less than 300 miles for that tick to disappear! Let me know if your noise goes away!

[@AG2W]

I plan on doing pretty much these exact same upgrades to my 2016 XC so it's nice to see what numbers I can anticipate. For my exhaust I'm going with a set of Hacker Tru Duals and hopefully I can get similar numbers. Nice bike!

[@FeatheredDino]

Victories engines were miles ahead of anyone else, especially when you consider the Freedom 106 came out in 2009, and makes power that Harley couldn't touch until they came out with the 114ci M8, 8 years after the Freedom 106.

[@vernlochtefeld1626]

Really that fair. The 106 and m109R were top of the V twin cruiser bike motors. Now that the M8 resolved its oil pump issues its re setting the bar with its even better 4 valve heads, auto compression release, computer that can pull timing and architecture that allows for 131s with slip ins. Wish Indian had kept a line of Vic/Indians with the Freedom 106. Its still head and shoulders above the old 2 valve headed Thunderchoke. But that likely would have caused a problem internally.

[@GrandpaWazi]

I have a 2013 Highball and its been nothing but absolutely fantastic. I got one of the last sets of Lloydz 501 cams they only make the 505's now. Still I highly recommend doing it. What a difference. Do that and throw in a conquest customs overdrive pulley and you will always be at your max powerband even when at 2200rpm. The 501's kick on around 2500. Expect to be 110+hp and 115+tq after cams with the 505's. If you can find the 501's though I would recommend them over the 505's as most of us keep it in the higher rpm. The 106 loves high rpm. I typically don't shift until around 3500rpm. Also don't be scared to take it to redline. We are far suppressed from what it can truly safely rev to. Ill be in AZ soon I live in NV would love to ride with another highball.

[@billsfabworks3188]

Hell yeah man me too! Just hit me up on insta @billsfabworks and if we can cruise we will! Thanks for watching I was always curious about the cams….

[@vernlochtefeld1626]

Can you still get the 504? Seeing out of stock. Was that made by Andrews is it the same as the V472? Helping a friend with his Cross Country

[@GrandpaWazi]

@@vernlochtefeld1626 501s and 504s are no longer made. 505s are the only cams lloydz will continue to make for our bikes. I don't believe Lloydz and Andrews are the same but I can't prove it. The 472s are comparable to the 504. Carrier clearance machining is mandatory. High lift valve springs recommended. Unlike all other cams available that are just drop in and go. What is your friend looking for performance wise? Putting those on a cross country for high rpm gains? Do they ride 2 up? If so wouldn't your friend much prefer the 413 or 505 for the low end torque? 2 up riding with 472s that kick on around 3000 rpm seems like a major drag. Hp tq figures mean nothing if it's not being applied where you want it. Hell rip on the freeway above 3k rpm but getting up to speed anyone with 501 or 505 cams will be much quicker.

[@vernlochtefeld1626]

​@@GrandpaWazi Solo riding 170 pounds always been a go fast guy. Had a crotch rocket at one time. Has two summers on his Vic now. Wants to stomp all V twin cruisers especially Harleys. He has a 2014 low miles. Has a lloyds air filter, 505 cam, Maximus tuner and map with I gather some setting changes he did with their tech over a year ago but has not yet had a remote tune done. RPM limiter lifted some. underdrive pulley and baffles out of factory exhaust. He is getting the Barnett clutch plate kit. Doesn't know what else to do. I don't know if where he might need fuel pump or injector upgrades. If he needs that adjustable timing gear thing or if that can be done with his tuner. And or whatever else I don't know that I don't know about. The Power Commander 6 plus Auto tune looks promising to me because we can change things and Auto tune will adjust so maybe it works better than paying for a remote tune anytime you change exhaust or cam. But that combined is almost a grand even with black friday specials and he already has Maximus so.. I don't know. Maybe were just down to V472 & tune and or more exhaust mods. Last the Revolution Performance 117ci kit and cnc head porting is it still available? Who is running it with what? What do they say. I saw it online but Its so expensive I haven't even called about it. Maybe they have a big black friday special but not sure he is that spendy.

[@billsfabworks3188]

@@vernlochtefeld1626 lloyds makes them and their site shows in stock still! the 504 and 472 are different though im not super sure the exact differences

[@340rps]

You need upgraded air filter if you got aftermarket exhaust. One goes with the other.

[@painsrides]

You wouldn't regret adding cams and a Noemetz Maxiums tune. As a long time Vic 106 owner I can say this; I'll start worrying about my engine when I don't hear noises coming from it. 😉

[@billsfabworks3188]

I’m thinking about cams/clutch/ 02 delete as the last power mod…how’s daily riding with the cams? And how’s gas mileage in your experience? Right now I’m pushing 130 ish miles before fuel light pops on

[@painsrides]

@@billsfabworks3188 ..My fuel light is schizo...lol But I ave. around 42 mpg. With the Maximus tune I left the O2 sensors in. Since its a direct ECU tune, with the O2 sensors active I get the benefit fuel adjustments for temperature and elevation.

[@UnApologeticPatriot]

Nice bike man. I have a 16 Cross Country that makes 102HP and 120TQ at the wheel. Great bikes. Good luck with yours

[@bradbarber728]

02 sensors are not an issue on victories . It's when you go modified not knowing what your doing that you have issues .

[@bluefen]

What's the suspension like on the Highball?..I have lower back issues and bikes that are harsh over bumps are no longer rideable for me..

[@billsfabworks3188]

Suspension is great man nice and soft for me I’m a 180lb rider even on rough roads it’s been plenty comfortable

[@bluefen]

@billsfabworks3188 Thanks for the reply.. I rode one yesterday and totally agree... now I've got to find a good example to buy... all the best..

[@thomaspuma434]

Thanks for your time,I have the Magnum and trying to find a good mechanic that's good with the Victory where dies he work ?

[@billsfabworks3188]

Triumph dealership on alma school and main next to Kelly’s Kawasaki!

[@thomaspuma434]

@@billsfabworks3188 is that in Arizona

[@curtisjuice]

Hey, been watching your videos and progress on this bike. I have a 14 Vegas 8ball and actually running the same set up (trask hot rod exhaust, timing wheel @+4 and adding the torque tubes and pcv here in the next week or two) I need to find someone out here in Colorado for the dyno but curious if you have the map file you’re running on here? I know it’s going to be different on different bikes but would be awesome to ride it for the time being while waiting to get dyno’d with a map that is “close enough” for the time being. Would be greatly appreciated man. Solid bike, hope you’re still out enjoying it.

[@billsfabworks3188]

Hey dude! Not sure I can download the map but I’ll take a look!

[@curtisjuice]

@@billsfabworks3188 would be awesome if you could! It’s the only thing holding me back from doing all of the work right now. Just don’t want to pull it apart, put it back together, and then not ride it for a while haha

[@joelcronenberg]

Such a dope bike!

[@evelkoloski]

ok full stage 3.... full boogie, max power at the wheel, 91.08hp@ 5300 rpm and max tq 102.77@3450rpm. so i was expecting a bigger number but honestly im super happy with the Butt dyno!!! she frikin flys!!! TY Mas Cycle in BC Canada!!

[@JayBirdNJ.]

Were you able to delete the O2 sensor? If so, was it successful or was there further steps to take? Thanks for your time and I love the channel.

[@billsfabworks3188]

I have the dongles to delete the O2 but haven’t had the check engine light come back on yet, even after a few long 700 mile road trips they don’t seem to mind the tune and stufd

[@apexlegends-causticmain-ph3228]

Appreciate the video and knowledge!. Numbers are low and kinda weak tho even after tune and parts.

[@billsfabworks3188]

@Apex legends thanks for watching! It’s certainly not the leap in horsepower I was hoping for! Hopefully it can bring some truth to peoples wild expectations of what certain bolt - ons will add to their ride!

[@nicholasselvaggi54]

96hp and 113tq stock. My 2006 Victory Hammer with a Stage 1 is 80whp and 103wtq.

[@nicholasselvaggi54]

If I can find the kit might go Stage 3 next year.

[@OatesSteve]

Recently found your Channel, still have the victory? , There’s a lot of victory guys including me out here would love to see more videos. Ride safe

[@billsfabworks3188]

I do still have it! Weather is finally down to nice-ish in AZ so expect some more victory vids! Thanks for stopping by and commenting man!

[@dplorbl]

@@billsfabworks3188 how’s that rear cylinder heat? Had a Magnum 3 yrs back; 2 day ride from Cochise, Springerville, back home and the wife complained about the heat - I traded it for a Wing in TX (now sold).

[@billsfabworks3188]

@@dplorbl honestly not bad I don’t notice it much but I usually don’t go ride in 100 degree weather and I usually have cowboy boots on so maybe I just don’t feel it

[@keyman6868]

Ditch the commander and go with a maximus tuner. I have one on my vision and wow what a difference. I also have the 504/hpt cams to install- here real soon!

[@stevem9766]

I’m looking to change exhaust on my 2015 Vision . I can only do stock just so long . I assume you changed your exhaust. What type did you go with ? And availability. Thanks ! Steve

[@josephedwards8992]

I just inherited a 2017 Harley but damn considering, trading it for a victory. The only thing stopping me is my dad left me the bike when he died.

[@vernlochtefeld1626]

If its an M8 build it. If its a TC I'd rather have a 17 Victory 106 with the 4v heads.

[@newellcox5582]

Have both brother!

[@rambosoftbanana]

no 505 cam?

[@billsfabworks3188]

I wish! No “motor work” to speak of just air/exhaust tune

[@mikeeyg1977]

Thanks for taken the time for the video. 2017 is the only year you could get the nuclear sunset color. The victory oil is semi synthetic which is what is recommended. I use redline full synthetic but oil is a hated subject in most forums lol. If you PC5 ever fails go with a regular tuner that tunes the ECM like the Maximus or dynojet power vision, I would suggest the Maximus but I bought the dynojet because I can leave it on the bike and watch certain data channels like engine temp and A/F plus I few others. If I had to do it again I would get the Maximus. The PC5 is good but it is just a piggy back system and they can fail once in awhile. Are you part of the highball group on Facebook? Great guys in the group who are really knowledgeable. I just bought ground pounders and might get cams but not sure on the cams just yet. Stay safe brother

[@joecader]

you could get NSO in the 13 cross country because when i take my 17 in NSO to the stealership i BOUGHT THE BIKE FROM, they don't want to honor any warranty work saying it's a 13. l have to counter with then you sold me a bike with doctored title. the VIN is a 17.. the laziness of the setvice dept!

[@340rps]

Just disconnect the O2 sensor .. Don't know what your tank holds but you should be getting at least 40mpg.

[@billsfabworks3188]

Tank holds about 4 gallons I think I get 140ish miles to the tank depending on how much I’m gettin it, haha and unfortunately in the 2017 models the O2 sensors have to be fooled rather then unplugged as they feed extra data to the computer unless you don’t care about engine lights!

[@loveamerica2828]

It does run smooth and pulls really well, even with Bill riding BITCH on the back!!!! Great job.

[@Travsvic]

You need the 504 cams. But get the barnett clutch your going to fry the stock clutch. And get ride of them front blinkers they look gay

[@ltx383]

lol same blinkers in his picture

[@dylanvisitacion8618]

#DigIt

[@bradbarber728]

Not a boutique bike. Polaris made a bad decision in dropping them . And you are wrong there are many part available for victories . I have no problem getting parts for all three of my victory. Your stock bike is 91 hp and 89 ftlbs of torque.