The Volvo V90 Cross Country Takes on the TFL Slip Test!

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@RippenGriff 9 ай бұрын

Volvo standing strong with a wagon…which in my opinion looks so much better than a SUV. (Not to mention better handling and lower coefficient of drag)

@Gerard_Joling63 9 ай бұрын

Its just an usa thing, wagons are common in eu

@RippenGriff 9 ай бұрын

They are getting harder to find in the US, most manufacturers have discontinued them.

@Spheredalai 9 ай бұрын

@@Gerard_Joling63not quite, considering volvo will actually stop all estate production in the UK

@damilolaakanni 9 ай бұрын

@@Gerard_Joling63unfortunately, even Europe is moving away from wagons and into crossovers.

@jface3806 9 ай бұрын

There's two of these I see occasionally near where I live, I get excited every time I see them. They just look great: classy, subtle, and useful.

@reitsmaassociates 9 ай бұрын

V90 is such a beautifully proportioned large wagon - so refreshing in a sea of SUV’s

@leonpjhb 9 ай бұрын

I owned this v90 cross country for three years, mine had the diesel engine. I fitted 18” wheels with offroad tyres. It easily tackled many offroad situations and unpaved rocky mountainpasses with absolute ease. People in Lamdcruisers and Defenders used to stop me and say that I wouldn’t be able to make the terrain and were surprised when I laughed them off. Volvo supplies a thick aluminum plate as an official accessory that I had fitted below the engine compartment. That took so e knocks, but I never felt that I really needed extra clearance. Amazing car.

@k7gixxer1000 9 ай бұрын

Volvo knocked it out the park with this vehicles styling.

@matus201 9 ай бұрын

One of the best looking cars out there.

@anthonymrskipt9252 9 ай бұрын

We have a 2019 Ocean Race on 19” wheels. Never had any issues and the seats and ride are very comfortable. It’s been across the country a couple of times and regularly drives between the west coast and the UT mountains these days. Although it’s not an off-roader, it’s certainly capable of transiting a dirt or gravel road so long as the ground clearance isn’t an issue. Traction is always fine. In truth, though, the two places it’s most impressive are long-distance highway trips and snowy mountain conditions (the reason we got it in the first place). Not cheap, but I suspect the negative comments belong to people who’ve never actually owned one.

@prashantkompella5372 9 ай бұрын

I have said it before, and I will say it again. You guys need to create a rating system for AWD testing.

@brian0410 9 ай бұрын

That would be nice. Maybe even a top gear kind of board where you rank them based on how they perform. Like a hot lap with the Sting, but off road and slip test ratings.

@Xanthopteryx 9 ай бұрын

I have V90 -18, D4 AWD. Living in Sweden. That dark and snowy country. Never had any issues. It works REALLY well!

@EDHBlvd 9 ай бұрын

9:18 you criticize ground clearance. It has 8.3 inches. That’s very good for a wagon or sedan. It’s better than many SUVs.

@billyshannon6454 9 ай бұрын

I have a V60 Cross Country. Best car I've ever had. Solid, comfortable, and great in snow/light off road. I swapped out the 19's and put on the base 18's and it drives even better

@huntermitchell-yh9fo 9 ай бұрын

I'm not sure what generation of Haldex this one has but I have a 2015 V60 Cross Country, I put a full skid plate on it and downsized to 17 inch wheels wrapped in nitto AT's and the car is WAYYY more capable than it has any right to be. It's also a fantastic tow vehicle for anything under 4k pounds.

@4x4.tests.on.rollers 9 ай бұрын

In 2015 it was gen V. Since 2019 it's VI.

@amelsfr 8 ай бұрын

fantastic car! wish there were more wagons on the market!

@merog2 9 ай бұрын

The volvo v90 xc is used as police cars in Europe. Its the standard squad car in Norway. Volvo have a dedicated factory in Sweden that modifies all the models into what the customers need.

@SterlingSigurdsen 9 ай бұрын

Love my 2015.5 Volvo XC70 T6 Platinum. Great on road and off roads

@Georgejoseph74 9 ай бұрын

Two of my neighbours have the European model.D5 AWD.they both have caravans and go around Europe.only positive comments so far .

@chadhauze1683 9 ай бұрын

Nice video. Had a V90 CC for a couple years now and love it.

@pedermyrne2876 9 ай бұрын

To engage the "Kick gate" you have to take at least one step back after kicking. (Says so in the owners manual and that works for me every time)

@Neil-ii3dp 9 ай бұрын

I find that it opens best when I walk behind the vehicle with no intention or need for it to open 🤦‍♂

@4240cameron 9 ай бұрын

you have to have the key on your or else it beeps to let you know the key is not detected

@StewartP45 9 ай бұрын

Hmm, good point, might be why my (non Volvo) kick activated tailgate sometimes bleeps to acnowledge but doesn't then open. Must experiment!

@phila3884 7 ай бұрын

I have to try that. My V60CC tailgate sensor has been frustrating me for 3 years- kinda like Tommy was in the video.

@MegaRetr 5 ай бұрын

One of the best looking cars out there)))

@Eddie-yc5yd 9 ай бұрын

Beautiful wagon/suv. But like most vehicles, way too expensive.

@HenryBrooke1998 9 ай бұрын

My parents are about to get one of these. 2018 model with the T5 250 horsepower engine, AWD, and only 52,000 miles on the clock. It's a replacement for our 2014 XC70 with 155,000 miles on the clock we've had since February 2015.

@swtt007 9 ай бұрын

Beautiful wagon and great traction test. Thank you. Regarding the wheels and tires I wanted to comment that the 21 Inch wheels with the summer tires on the V90 CC tested is an optional upgrade. All the V90 CC Ultimate trims come standard with the 20 Inch Wheels with all-season tires that have more tread and grip. Great to see how well it did in that test with those tires and wheels.

@pjmoody 9 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing. What a great way to test.

@hhohajz 9 ай бұрын

Always wanted a wagon.

@einfeldt777 9 ай бұрын

100% agree that the new CC’s are leaning to much towards luxury, instead of off road worthiness, (smaller rims, bigger sidewalks, maybe even cloth interior). Great video 🤗

@Spoolingturbski 9 ай бұрын

Volvos testing on icy Swedish roads definitely pay off!

@robervin9107 9 ай бұрын

Tommy definitely your next vehicle please.

@TheNinfo21 6 ай бұрын

I have 8 of those wheels, summer set and winter set and they are 21's My 2018 v90cc t6 polestar also has rear air suspension, that wasn't noted on that test car during testing.

@jt9411 9 ай бұрын

It's got a good awd system, but those tires aren't doing it any favors.

@Cal94 9 ай бұрын

One of my bigger gripes with my V60 recharge, is i couldnt get the PHEV drivetrain in a V60 CC or V90 CC. I scraped my front lip within my first 3 months of ownership. That, and (though i never had to live with it) sensus always seemed to be a much better laid out UI than android automotive

@Peter-np4xs 9 ай бұрын

Great reviews. Some time ago I watched a guy do similar tests in multiple brands. One other thing he did when he took them offroad was to test the body integrity. In one of the most body twisting runs, he stopped to see if the front doors would open. Some did, some didn't.

@bwmclaurin 9 ай бұрын

I can't remember the channel's name, but it's based on Australia and they have cool and tough tests to help people choose what's best on road, off-road, and towing in the real world! Too bad we Americans cannot get the same models, options and Diesel engine choices that the Aussies get to choose from! Our "climate and safety" regs force us to get inferior options but usually more luxury and comfort options on the ones that are here! While most won't ever see dirt or the "bush", it would be nice to have the option for those who want to actually use the vehicle for more than transporting kids to soccer practice in luxury that most can't afford the top trim anyway! We should at least get a bare bones utility model that's tough , gets decent mileage via diesel and is more affordable like the rest of the world enjoys.. 🤷‍♂️

@andrewkennedy9704 9 ай бұрын

@@bwmclaurincarexpert?

@bobman717 8 ай бұрын

@@bwmclaurinthe US has much lower emissions standards than Australia lmfao

@reynerl5830 13 күн бұрын

Was surprised how V90 cc did way better compared to A6 allroad in the 3-way slip test! 🤯🤯🤯 Great review! Thanks for reviewing lifted station wagons in an offroad!! 🤩 🍻

@Tmrfe0962 9 ай бұрын

Great review, thanks.

@ScottCo98 9 ай бұрын

Air suspension is only on the rear of the S90 and V90

@Aaron_Voltz 9 ай бұрын

I've seen a lot of off-road \ bumpy path \ deep snow videos of the Ford Maverick ... including TFL's video of the Maverick Hybrid getting loaded to the max with logs & compared to the Santa Cruz up Truth and Dare. Yet the non-hybrid Maverick AWD hasn't been on the rollers yet. I'm wondering how much wheel slip is going on before it transfers torque to a wheel with grip

@mjohns5944 9 ай бұрын

Looking forward to the one day of snow we get here in the UK to try out my XC60 Polestar Eng.

@tobias_dahlberg 9 ай бұрын

It's typical for European car manufacturers to only export the high-end versions of their cars to the US. Here in Sweden you can, if you really want to, get one of these with a diesel powertrain, 17-18 inch wheels with tires from Finnish Nokian and even a manual transmission at one point, they did discontinue the manual though so only automatic in the later years. Just like with American cars in the US, you can get the lower trim lines of European cars in Europe. You could get a real basic spec V90 Cross Country with cloth seats, 190hp diesel engine, manual transmission (only some years), and no fancy features like sunroof or cooled seats or whatever. These options are much simpler and is also why European cars are seen as more reliable in Europe than in the US, because you guys in the US always get the most expensive, most complicated versions of cars. In terms of other brands you can get very simple, cloth seated, no frills Audis, BMWs and Mercedes' as well, they're decently reliable compared to the fully specced out V8:s and V6:s and I6 with all the gimmicky electronics features.

@cbatiau2528 9 ай бұрын

Diesel is sooo 20th century … the single worst thing about Europe generally is diesel vehicles … they really are horrible for local air & breathing

@fantomtuba 9 ай бұрын

Asside from the Hornet, I'm curious if any manufacturer contacted TFL to say that they've improved their AWD system as a result of these tests.

@TFLcar 9 ай бұрын

Yes they have actually!

@fantomtuba 9 ай бұрын

Example? @@TFLcar

@DrDajom 9 ай бұрын

The tailgate kick thing works perfect if you don't have a kicking seasure when you try it.

@jhouston14 9 ай бұрын

Live in CO near west entrance Rocky Mountain NP. 2018 v90 CC with CPO factory warranty and additional third party extended warranty. base edition, non air suspension. Coming up on 60K service, and have received wildly conflicting recommendations on draining ( not power flushing) transmission fluid, haldex and diff fluids. Volvo dealer sticks to lifetime protocol and warns CPO policy is voided by breaking seal. Indy shops swear by 50K fluid changes. Problem: my inclination is for proper preventative maintenance, but since warranties cover failures, it seems like not replacing fluids is most economical for me, but stupid and wasteful as a practice. Welcome thoughts on the topic.

@turboman6680 9 ай бұрын

The central display is 9" not 12.3". The 12.3" display is ahead of you (tach and speed).

@costisordorin5785 9 ай бұрын

Gorgeous car ! If I would afford it,I would pay all that money for it !

@RCRitterFPV 4 ай бұрын

that seems like not an Cross country, but the regular one... agree 18" wheels... another 1" of ground clearance... but... I love it.... soo good looking.. wish they did a t8 version with 18" Ko2's... What is the highest performing off road wagon? would love a plug in hybrid v8 9" of ground clearance but low roof...

@v60polestar88 9 ай бұрын

Haldex has gotten better with each generation and 5 is really good.

@4x4.tests.on.rollers 9 ай бұрын

Since 2019 it's 6th.

@v60polestar88 9 ай бұрын

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers No it’s still 5 gen. BorgWarner owns Haldex but it’s still the 5 gen. Their is no 6th gen haldex yet

@4x4.tests.on.rollers 9 ай бұрын

@@v60polestar88There is 6th, it's in Borg Warner specifications.

@WolowitzsMother 9 ай бұрын

@@v60polestar88You are wrong, there is VI.

@tonyarmitage7435 28 күн бұрын

The best all round vehicle you can buy. A pleasure to own and drive.

@tsouryavong13 7 ай бұрын

I had one of these as a rental and I loved it! I would get one if it didn't cost so much

@steveh545 9 ай бұрын

many cars have this system, applying breaks to the spinning wheel. Problem i've had (several times) is my check engine light might be on for a 'bad' catalytic converter, and that deactivates the traction control (not sure why), which has turned my Land Cruiser into a 1-wheel drive vehicle, on occasion. Most annoying. I think Mercedes uses a similar system. Just don't get why the CE light would deactivate TC.

@tundramanq 9 ай бұрын

Agree, low profile tires are a lot easier to stone and pothole bruise.

@richfarfugnuven6308 9 ай бұрын

Low profile tires are beyond stupid. I live in the Denver metro area, and the roads are crap here. I have intentionally left 16-inch rims on my 2003 Excursion and run 35' tires so that I have sidewall flex. I never get flats. My ex had an Audi S6 and had flats all of the time...

@wilsand69 9 ай бұрын

Love Volvo I have a 2020 XC90 T6 Inscription AWD same color interior as this wagon

@BoomKissa 9 ай бұрын

Volvo awd works very well also falls a part very well. Had a few. Switched to Subaru five years ago, now just drive without fear to pay top dollar now and then just for having fun in snow.

@robbrownfield7677 6 ай бұрын

Similar story to me. Have had 3 Volvos over the years, older ones were bombproof, newer they were the more issues for me. Looked at the V60cc but when I told the dealer what I wanted it for he looked a bit worried. So I picked up a 2023 Outback to replace my 2019 one. No regrets. I don’t think the Volvo would have lived up to being used regularly on farm tracks, winter unploughed roads and river banks.

@PJPHughes 9 ай бұрын

Tommy...that car has 21 inch wheels, not 20s. They look great, but as you said, they are not the wheels you want to use to take the car off road. The would be better on an R-Design model (had an "18..fantastic car), which sadly has been discontinued in the US. Would love to see you guys test the V60 Polestar Engineered (I have a '23 and it's an incredible car)...the rear axle is only powered by electric motors, so I'd be interested to see how it does.

@alfkristianellefsen4709 4 ай бұрын

So ca you do something like this with the v60 cross country, or set them up with each other?

@TevinWeatherspoon 9 ай бұрын

I haven't seen a Volvo on the channel in a thousand years

@kramarenkomaksym 6 күн бұрын

I owned 2019 V90 CC with diesel engine. On this car I managed to drive in and out soo deep in Cerpathians mountains in snow without chains, where lc200s cannot manage to get on chains. (Before I got to know that it's better to use chains 😄)

@MrJnovicki 5 ай бұрын

Love our '18 V90

@Tha1NOnly1 9 ай бұрын

Cool shades 😎

@jhb3711 9 ай бұрын

I LOVE the v90

@joegeist3600 2 ай бұрын

Love this and the A6 All Road…decisions…

@k2zsk8 9 ай бұрын

You should do the Eclass All Terrain next!

@JaanB8805 8 ай бұрын

Need to have a key in your poker when you wave your leg behind your car to open the tailgate

@MarcelloTheBandit 9 ай бұрын

If this thing came with 20's, that shouldn't be too difficult. According to Tire Tack, you can go down to a 235/55-18 which opens up the Nitto Nomad Grappler and BFG Trail-Terrain A/T.

@leonpjhb 9 ай бұрын

That is exactly the size I fitted to mine. Absolutely zero issues. Ifitted the Hankook Dynapro in this size. Great tyre.

@richfarfugnuven6308 9 ай бұрын

The leather looks nice, but I worry about that many electronics in a car. After the warranty, the car will be an expensive fix...

@SS-qu6pm 7 ай бұрын

Is it reliable?

@elliottlee1050 9 ай бұрын

Not joking, the 🔥🔥🔥You have EVER Been Mr Tommy oooh wee! Boy does Volvo suit you! A wagon no less!! You know that meme where James McAvoy is 🌬himself? Yeah! 😂 - That aside goes w/o saying I ❤my 850R 😂 wagon. I'm not a huge fan of the lifted ones, but rather this than a fugly Legacy! & now that they're hybrids, even better! EV soon enough too👍

@AgentSmith911 9 ай бұрын

I like the high ground clearance. Though I'd probably prefer the diesel engine.

@thebigguy8306 9 ай бұрын

Thanks, Tommy, not to be mistaken with XC90 which is a train wreck. IMHO best AWD system is the AUDI Quattro system

@4x4.tests.on.rollers 9 ай бұрын

There is no such thing like "Audi quattro system". There is over twenty types of awd systems hidden under "quattro" badge.

@JoshArmstrong1996 9 ай бұрын

Wireless CarPlay?

@freedom-volvo-usa 6 ай бұрын

I really wish they would have kept the 2.5 5Cylinder in these models should have been amazing .

@seanhershey3390 9 ай бұрын

Love my Xc70..(

@karlberger9800 2 ай бұрын

Brand and name of the rollers?😊

@EDHBlvd 9 ай бұрын

This V90 has too many upgrades. I got my 2020 V90CC T6 back in late 2020 for just under 49K before tax.

@tomlivesay8407 9 ай бұрын

All I would care about with this vehicle is its performance in snowy any icy on road conditions.

@dv5ou 9 ай бұрын

Performs better then my half ton and both have winter tires

@anilbharat 9 ай бұрын

Volvo V90 or Audi A6 Allroad? both are similar price tag ...which one people generally inclined towards..

@RysterARCEE 9 ай бұрын

I don't think Cross Country in this application insinuates any off-road capability. It is simply meaning it will take you, your passengers, and the cargo comfortably across the country. A traditional highway cruising station wagon. Nothing more than that.

@tobias_dahlberg 9 ай бұрын

You're right. Volvo doesn't intend this for real off-roading. It is simply a better option for someone who'll be driving in snow/ice or gravel roads every now and then, not real off-roading. It is a great car for the adventerous people who might wanna take their family or friends on a long road trip up some mountain gravel roads to hike or something like that, but it is indeed not an off-roading vehicle.

@Largeone1968 9 ай бұрын

Did you miss the bit where they engaged off road mode?

@IvanToman 9 ай бұрын

Is it still Haldex 5th Gen?

@4x4.tests.on.rollers 9 ай бұрын

Since 2019 it's 6th.

@IvanToman 9 ай бұрын

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers OK thank you, I see... do you have a link to documentation about what changed from 5th gen?

@4x4.tests.on.rollers 9 ай бұрын

@@IvanToman Weight reduction from 42 to 36 kg, brushless motor. I don't have a link but it was somewhere on Borg Warner news.

@4x4.tests.on.rollers 9 ай бұрын

@@IvanTomanGot them but can't put them here.

@ReneOo 9 ай бұрын

Esta Guayín está bien chula 💜💜💜!

@JogBird 9 ай бұрын

i think it would look better w smaller wheels

@tomlivesay8407 9 ай бұрын

Love the larger wheels.

@billricheter5678 9 ай бұрын

Need a v50 again

@martinnotland7982 9 ай бұрын

How come there is no mention this is a haldex system? FWD based system with transverse engine is extremely relevant for AWD system, and even comparing this to an A6 allroad or E-class without mentioning this seems kind of weak.

@4x4.tests.on.rollers 9 ай бұрын

Petrol A6 Allroad also has FWD based awd system.

@nikbanda2469 7 ай бұрын

Drem car?

@GuoCheney Ай бұрын

I love v90CC.

@LukeEdward 9 ай бұрын

“At no point there is jerk in this vehicle…” What the heck, man!? That’s a poopy way to call out Geoff. I mean, as a stuffed bear, he’s got no way to defend himself.

@absurdalny 9 ай бұрын

3:56 V90 is a wagon/estate - not sedan

@cattlerepairmancattlerepai9414 9 ай бұрын

95% of buyers will offroad their AWD in the grass beside their driveway - if that.

@trishaleaver3581 9 ай бұрын

I’d go for the regular v90 anyway. Not tall or big enough for most US buyers. In the US big means luxury🤪 Go get yourself a $70000 Dodge Ram Hemi Truck/Grocery getter😀

@thatdudeinblackshoes 5 ай бұрын

"this is one you're going to want to pay attention to" so which videos should we ignore?

@johntadley4323 9 ай бұрын

Bought a 3 month old one in 2018 for 35k D4 pro . Now it’s £61k - won’t be buying another

@kc0lif 9 ай бұрын

nice Swedish car.

@chintetshing1668 9 ай бұрын

👍👍👍👍👍

@christoferx 9 ай бұрын

Correction: The car in the clip got 21” wheels and not 20” !!

@DirtE30 9 ай бұрын

Impressive looking vehicle, can’t wait for someone to buy it and absorb the 65% loss in the first three years.

@WRC-FAN 9 ай бұрын

And then you will find out why it lost 65% of it's value.

@lechprotean 9 ай бұрын

try m340i or m3 touring instead..

@treborheminway3814 9 ай бұрын

Are you sure this isn't the Cross Country Club model?

@Quadranaut 9 ай бұрын

Great looking car, but… if I wanted an AWD wagon I would get a Subaru outback.

@4x4.tests.on.rollers 9 ай бұрын

Rear wheel slip test is pointless.

@TuomasLeone 9 ай бұрын

Volvo knows 99% of their customers will never be taking these vehicles far from their suburban enclaves much less off road, hence the showroom appeal of the 20” wheels and the Italian rubber.

@tobias_dahlberg 9 ай бұрын

It's typical for European car manufacturers to only export the high-end versions of their cars to the US. Here in Sweden you can, if you really want to, get one of these with a diesel powertrain, 17-18 inch wheels with tires from Finnish Nokian and even a manual transmission at one point, they did discontinue the manual though so only automatic in the later years. Just like with American cars in the US, you can get the lower trim lines of European cars in Europe. You could get a real basic spec V90 Cross Country with cloth seats, 150hp diesel engine, manual transmission (only some years), and no fancy features like sunroof or cooled seats or whatever. These options are much simpler and is also why European cars are seen as more reliable in Europe than in the US, because you guys in the US always get the most expensive, most complicated versions of cars. In terms of other brands you can get very simple, cloth seated, no frills Audis, BMWs and Mercedes' as well, they're decently reliable compared to the V8:s and V6:s and I6 with all the gimmicky electronics features.

@cbatiau2528 9 ай бұрын

Wrong … Americans take their wagons on long road trips often

@lew3057 9 ай бұрын

People who buy a V90 are not looking to go off-road. They want the al wheel drive to get them to the kids activities and the supermarket in the snow and slippery conditions.