The Wait is Over! UK Army's Boxer MIV Are Being Produced On A Large Scale

[@jacklol4248]

it's modularity is really brilliant.

[@wingaard]

A variety of 'interchangeable mission modules'...but not one NAAFI wagon option.

[@marcusfranconium3392]

Its Dutch German Design so why do you want to make it a british garbage plan .

[@DeanPattrick]

​@@marcusfranconium3392I don't know what comment is more funny 😂

[@frankt.1391]

😂

[@Olleetheowl]

Who are “Bay Systems”? Are they related in any way to B.A.E. Systems?

[@reconis3018]

probably the same, just AI voice on the video

[@slopedarmor]

No, Brotherly Anal Eruptions Systems doesnt produce boxers, they just pull them down.

[@jamesdeery5377]

We need to move from peace time production economy to a war economy. Reason we need to replenish our armories and magazines. Given what we have sent to Ukraine.

[@thetruthhurts7675]

So for 155 canon shells tyhe uk has gone from producing 14,000 shells a month to 112,000 shells a month at this time. This is the only thing I have looked up, so other things have been ramped up I would have thought by the same multiplication.

[@paulmcgee1867]

Problem is always political inertia

[@ieuanjones7615]

yeah that would never happen

[@thetruthhurts7675]

@@paulmcgee1867 The problem is and always has been that any political party in the UK back to Elizabethan times always wants to cut defence spending. Then we end up with our pants down, so to s[eak, as always!!

[@allansmith3837]

Spending millions on this POS while the country goes to hell in a hand cart lmao 😂

[@cactusoft]

The union jack camo version will be very useful if things kick off at Last Night of the Proms or a UKIP rally, or if Austin Powers joins the army.

[@glynluff2595]

To be issued to musicians!

[@johnthefishermanjohnhoyle5763]

Like the days we ran around the world in red tunics haha

[@aowen2471]

@@johnthefishermanjohnhoyle5763 like the French in blue and the Irish in green ... oh! wait, damn those Irish were smart. Camo before camo!

[@ivangl8936]

As a Ukrainian I hope UK is going to make their military production one of the strongest in Europe.

[@thegrinch8161]

Sadly from my time in hm forces by the time the squaddie gets a new bit of kit and this is after cutbacks and being built by the cheapest and mostly crap monkeys who I wouldn’t get to put together a feckin dolls house it’ll be out in ot date and the icing on the cake the squaddies will get sweet f a for decades after so in short the British army screwed

[@erikxs]

Boxer is much better, Rheinmetall is a german Company

[@oml81mm]

What is "bay" systems? BAE is pronounced as three letters. B - A - E

[@4evaavfc]

Shame about Ajax but good to see Boxer being assembled in Telford.

[@hc-nj3ve]

Both are being produced and are for slightly different use cases

[@Fordmister]

@@hc-nj3ve plus I'm sure both are actually more about the UK re-learning how to build military armoured vehicles domestically before Challenger 3 is due to be phased out in 2040. The MOD would much rather have a bunch of fuck ups with Ajax with the option of just buying CV90's if its really never going to work over a load of problems in whatever next gen tank the Brits come up with and are probably hoping to have a LOT more export success with than the ever did with challenger.

[@JAY61ish]

Ajax is fine now.. Household Cav are trialling it and report it to be a good bit of kit..

[@1421davidm]

Have they sorted out the overheating brakes problem yet ?

[@thegrinch8161]

I can’t remember what design of vehicle it was but I think there was a vehicle that sprayed small jets of water onto the brake system that cooled it down somewhat but the trick is to not putting too much on the disks at once because cooked disk’s have been known to warp and explode

[@billsmith305]

Why not fit the right brakes to do the job first time,,, ? sounds like British Leyland .

[@robertwillis4061]

​@@thegrinch8161What a stupid idea. Means yet another thing troops have to remember to do, just to drive the vehicle safely. Is the water supply harmed for winter driving? Yes even at low temperatures brakes can overheat. Water cooled brakes are fine on a WRC Rally car that can be replaced every 200km. Not on an APC.

[@ThaddäusTentakel-v2n]

That Boxer with the Union Jack looks nice

[@MichaelK.-xl2qk]

The new tracked Boxer chassis with a lance turret seems like a good replacement for the failed Ajax scout vehicle.

[@wsm7929]

Not enough armour. Ajax is a completely different class of vehicle. It's almost double the weight. The UK should have gone with the CV90 but despite the bad start the Ajax will come good.

[@MichaelK.-xl2qk]

@@wsm7929 I see. Well, the Ajax's tendency to make the crew feel awful after a short ride will absolutely have to be dealt with. Clearly the CV90 is far better, but if Ajax doesn't deliver a product the troops can use without it chronically injuring them, then General Dynamics and General Sycophant von Crony are going to be eating it.

[@wsm7929]

@@MichaelK.-xl2qk Those issues have been fixed and I suspect given the USA New M10 Booker light tank is an Ajax platform it will be here to stay. The M16 had lots of problems but it turned out to be one of the best guns ever made. Harrier jump jet was heavily critised it was said it wouldn't stand a chance against supersonic fighters. Turned out fine. I accept it was a procurement disaster and as required alot of fixing. But once working as intended it should be one of the most affecting vehicles on the battle field.

[@MichaelK.-xl2qk]

@@wsm7929 I agree with your assessment of what may be possible when a good idea gets through the debugging and fine tuning that inevitably accompanies making it real. What I am concerned about is the appearance of a swindle, which can only be judged at the point where the promised goods are delivered and the bill is presented. The UK can not be expected to pay twice as much as originally bargained just because GD ran into internal problems getting the thing done. They are clearly going to make money selling the thing to the US Marine Corps, so they need to eat the cost overruns themselves. These defense contractors should be held to a high standard or they will take advantage.

[@wsm7929]

@MichaelK.-xl2qk From my experience with government contacts, I suspect there were lots of instances of. "Wouldn't it be good if it could also do this or could you had this function please." Generally this one sentence is the root cause of most projects delays and overspends. I work in construction and the public sector is terrible for it. Then when the cost go up they will say. "We don't have the budget it this year can we spread the cost over more years". This always put the cost up even more and it's a vicious circle. I suspect military contracts are no different.

[@chillplacatetrance9213]

I see the future of these types of IFVs are more prominent in the next war. The MBTs are a prime target of loitering munitions.. what's left to fight are these types.. highly mobile and modular.

[@mariusz3891]

its a stupid answer comment...everything is a prime target for loitering munition...

[@chillplacatetrance9213]

@@mariusz3891 it is a stupid reply/comment. Yes and No. Yes, everything is a target to loitering munition but NO, EVERY TARGET has a priority. Which one to be decommissioned first during the heat of the battle.

[@nimay13]

@@chillplacatetrance9213 you dont use loitering munitions in the "heat of the battle". As seen in Ukraine. Step away from COD child.

[@chillplacatetrance9213]

@@nimay13 perhaps you are stuck in the conventional ways and you do not spend too much time watching videos from Ukraine. What is COD? Cash on delivery?

[@chillplacatetrance9213]

@@nimay13 "Ukrainian soldiers say they've been having to abandon vehicles and hike for miles to the front lines because of exploding Russian drones"

[@TheHoffbill]

Airfix, 1/72 scale. Paint and glue not included.

[@Yoyoyo927]

Cannot wait

[@jafojafo5412]

So how many ‘spare’ boxes are gonna be kept on hand for the avg battalion … where you gonna store them and move them when all the boxers have different load outs in use?

[@jamjardj1974]

Daft concept😂

[@jamiesonsambarhunter]

Already in mass production and being rolled out to units in Australia.

[@zhufortheimpaler4041]

already in active service for 12 years in the german and dutch army

[@sarcasmo57]

How much will a new set of tyres set ya back?

[@georgeargolo6310]

🇬🇧 BRITISH ARMY COMMANDER MILITARY 🦁🦁🦁😃😃😃👍👍👍UAU UAU UAU UAU UAU UAU 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

[@gloriaanderson8988]

Build more ASAP

[@1sumer2go999]

Does it have a BV ?

[@zhufortheimpaler4041]

it even has an onboard toilet

[@MikeHarland-m2g]

Well it looks like money better spent than that on those two aircraft carriers. What use are they?

[@axavidesign1670]

Is this British owned or German? The UK needs to manufacture again. Being reliant on other countries is very short-sighted.

[@zhufortheimpaler4041]

Rheinmetall BAE Systems Land is producing Boxer for the UK. Its majority owned by Rheinmetall Germany. The UK just has no capability for design and developement left and needs Rheinmetall to train staff etc

[@Louis-ej1lx]

@@zhufortheimpaler4041 WFEL is also producing Boxers.

[@zhufortheimpaler4041]

@@Louis-ej1lx KMW owned. So again german controlled company

[@myri9886]

If you watched the video you would see 117 are being made in Germany while the U.K production is being setup with the other 506 are being made in the U.K

[@andyduhamel1925]

Think on it this way, 40% of all inventions were Britsh, did it do this island any good?? As one Cambridge study put it, "In real terms each UK household would have benefitted" had it not been for Government ineptitude to grasp what was put before them!!

[@zoolkhan]

brits overcame their hate of all things german for this? i am impressed.

[@BigDaddyButthead90]

They actually designed it before pulling out of the project

[@erikxs]

It‘s the quality and the engineering

[@zoolkhan]

@@BigDaddyButthead90 sure, just like they did all the work in airbus, typhoon, tornado ;)

[@cathulhu-q7y]

@@BigDaddyButthead90 they actually did not. The Boxer we know today (and since the start of the trial phase) is the german-dutch ARGE-GTK design proposal. The british design proposal was eliminated prior to the trial phase (the TEchnology for Armored Mobility/TEAM proposal) resulting in the UK dropping out of the Program. so yeah... the UK did NOT design Boxer, it was the germans and dutch, while the brits had a hissy fit that their outdated design was not chosen.

[@jasonking6892]

Protect our Boders First Stop Illegal immigrants Second More Monday for the Armed Services 👍🇬🇧

[@MrFelipefelop]

Who is Boders ?

[@jester5ify]

3.29 best use ever of what appears to be a snatch land rover.

[@Bob10009]

You can’t replace a tracked IFV with a wheeled APC. 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@zhufortheimpaler4041]

sure you can. especcially if the wheeled IFV has better armor, better firepower and surperior firecontrol.

[@Bob10009]

@@zhufortheimpaler4041 a wheeled IFV is not an APC 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@zhufortheimpaler4041]

@@Bob10009 and the UK is thinking about replacing the APC module with an IFV module

[@Bob10009]

@@zhufortheimpaler4041 source ?

[@zhufortheimpaler4041]

@@Bob10009 UK MOD planning for the "strike brigades" from 2030+. But currently no IFV Modules are on order. So for now, the UK is brewing up a lot of steaming shit with its actual procurement. still the Boxer APC version is better than Warrior in basicly all categories from mobility, sensors, stabilisation, operation range, protection etc. Just the 30mm cannon is missing. But the 30mm RARDEN is an non stabilised 3 round clip fed piece of garbage. going to a FLW200 with fully stabilised thermals and fully stabilised 40mm AGM is for the time being an "improvement" in most areas, except range and penetration power. Still the UK neets to get ther shit together and start procuring the IFV modules and not just think about them.

[@aviator346]

What about a payrise for NHS personnel and new equipment????

[@michaelwrench7577]

First they have to modernise and change there ways of thinking and move forward thinking & stop doing old out dated practices & move forward modernise that’s the only way saving the NHS going forward ....

[@stuartandrews4344]

Wonder whether they will replace the 30mm canon & have a XM913 chain gun 50mm variant..

[@thetruthhurts7675]

Why? We are not the USA where it takes 2,000 rounds on average to kill an enemy combatant.

[@zhufortheimpaler4041]

the 50mm round has not so many benefits over a 30mm round. Penetration is not good enough to engage heavy armored targets, vs BMP-3´s and other IFV´s the 30x173mm APFSDS round does more than enough on medium to long range. Vs Infantry and soft targets the 50mm HE round does not increase the lethality by such a large margin that it is drasticly better. 30mm ABM rounds tear infantry and soft targets to shreds. 30x173mm roundes require about 50% of the storage space of the 50mm autogun ammo. so more bang for the same volume. And against anything that is armored enough that a 30mm wont go through, the 50mm wont either and you use the ATGM´s

[@williamvorkosigan5151]

Can it cross the same terrain and keep up with the Challenger? If not, it is not fit for purpose.

[@zhufortheimpaler4041]

it can and is quicker than CR2 in terrain. CR2 does 40km/h offroad, a Boxer does up to 80km/h, so its the Chally that is slogging behind.

[@jamesamas5527]

@@zhufortheimpaler4041 depends on terrain. chally would be slower than boxer in some areas but would absolutely storm ahead in others

[@zhufortheimpaler4041]

@@jamesamas5527 There is basicly no terrain where Challenger 2 has better mobility than Boxer due to its prohibitive weight and atrocious power to weight ratio.

[@jamesamas5527]

@@zhufortheimpaler4041 can tell you now there is a lot of terrain where a challenger would smash a boxer off road. war thunder isnt real life mate

[@zhufortheimpaler4041]

@@jamesamas5527 and i have personally seen boxer driving through terrain, most tracked vehicles wouldnt follow into on german training grounds. That thing has comparable terrain mobility to an MBT. Only when we are talking about extreme deep mud conditions, tracked vehicles gain an minor edge. but only those, that are in a similar weight class. Challenger 2 has double the combat weight and struggles with alot of stuff Boxer can do. For example Obstacle climbing or slopes. Here Boxer outperforms CR2. The only real thing CR2 can do mobility wise, that boxer has problems with, is trench crossing, here CR2 gains 40cm trench width over Boxer.

[@Sarge084]

It's not Bay Systems, it's B.A.E Systems.

[@MoltenGriefing]

AI voices cant distinguish that

[@amblincork]

Why the hell keep flicking from picture ?

[@richardwedlock9526]

on what planet could the boxer replace warrior

[@stephen2583]

on the planet where rish people needed some more money so the government obliged them, for appropriate kick backs of course.

[@zhufortheimpaler4041]

basicly every planet. Boxer has similar terrain mobility but better alround protection than warrior. And when armed with Lance or RCT30 turrets drasticly better firepower and optronics with fully stabilised, dual feed autocannon capable of firing ABM rounds, twin SPIKE LR II launcher and a coaxial HMG.

[@richardwedlock9526]

wheeled vehicles do not have the same mobility as tracked, if they did there wouldn't be any tracked armour as there would be no need. i don't know what armour package boxer has but warrior was a well armoured machine once the theatre entry package was fitted. the old rarden cannon was due to be replaced with a 25mm bushmaster in a new turret but it was shelved due to boxer. @@zhufortheimpaler4041

[@billyponsonby]

Ajax is warriors’ replacement. But won’t enter service because it’s a failed project - UK public just hasn’t been told yet.

[@JammyDodger45]

@@billyponsonby- Ajax isn't a warrior replacement! It's as Recce vehicle not an IFV, totally different

[@che0535]

Some images from Australian military

[@cherjohn2118]

It's the quality that counts, not the quantity!

[@VinnyUnion]

but germany has some cutting edge technologies, just in negligible miniscule amounts like those prototype turrets on warships

[@aowen2471]

I have 5000 FPV drones that disagree...🤣

[@immortallvulture]

The first priority should be procurement of turreted modules to replace the warrior ifv that are being axed.

[@keibohow69]

be easier to just make one type of vehicle, that is multipurpose. And have a rail system on the floor and ceiliing, then you could just slide modules in to it.

[@czar6595]

@@keibohow69 no tracked varients though. Ukraine has proved wheeled armored vehicles are fucked in a lot of situations.

[@marknicholson2281]

⁠@@czar6595most of the places they can’t go you would want the better protection of Warrior or Ajax. One use for this platform could be a wheeled Geopard to combat drones at a more affordable cost than a more heavily armoured tracked system, allowing for more units. A common turret that could be fitted to a tracked platform would be good for front line use.

[@mantapi1781]

why UK didn't adopted the Patria AMV or the american-made LAV 25?

[@zhufortheimpaler4041]

heavier armor etc

[@mantapi1781]

LOL

[@zhufortheimpaler4041]

@@mantapi1781 LAV and Patria have on average only small caliber protection (7.62x39mm ap rounds -AK-47) all round and protectin vs .50cal (12.5x108mm) from the front. Patria can mount heavier armor. with that it looses its amphibious capability and is resistant vs 14.5x114mm rounds. (the russian heavy MG) Boxer comes with allround protection against 14.5x114mm from the factory and has protection vs 30mm cannon fire from the front. Also mine protection on boxer is drasticly higher than on LAV 25. Boxer and Patria both can take 10kg TNT explosions, LAV 25 has troubles with 5kg. Also other protection areas are drasticly better on Boxer. Artilleryblast and Bomblet/Clusterbbomb protection allows it to survive clusterbombs , near hits of 155mm HE rounds and even loitering munitions like Lancets. It also got close to 50% more operational range, can mount a fully stabilised 30x173mm autocannon with airburst ammunition + twin SPIKE LR II launcher etc. There is just no competition here. The only advantage of Patria and LAV is weight. And unless you want to regularly operate on the other side of the planet and ship your vehicles around like its a fed ex delivery... so it got better protection, mobility, armament etc than a Warrior IFV and is more comparable to a M2A3 Bradley IFV or something like that, but with greater speed,range and capabilities.

[@85daniel]

@@mantapi1781 I think the modularity was also reason. So you have the base vehicle and can customize it for your needs. Don't know another vehicle with this modularity

[@mantapi1781]

the boxer should be delayed until the 2030s but for now Uk should have chosed the LAV 25 or the Patria AMV screw you, british ministry of defense!

[@paulcoverdale8312]

Dose the boxer swim???

[@graemeglass7566]

What about the Ajax APV?

[@jester5ify]

Junk. What about it.

[@graemeglass7566]

@@jester5ify How much did that junk cost the tax payer in the UK?

[@jester5ify]

@@graemeglass7566 north of 10 billion pounds....

[@graemeglass7566]

@@jester5ify Jesus wept!!

[@diegosimeone]

Real battles and war always prove the old truth - the easier a weapon system is to operate, the more chances of success you have... what modules, what 3 dollars? Logistics in Ukraine, for example, is a terrible problem, any complication of servicing an armored vehicle reduces operational efficiency. In other words, it's very cool to make tugrs while the Allies spew T-34s and Shermans. And not only are they more numerous, but they are served much more quickly and easily than tigers and elephants. And yes, numbers do matter, especially when the front line is 1,500 km...

[@Exiyle]

anyone know whats happening with ajax?

[@RonsHere123]

the video & the commercial have the same drone voice~!!!

[@mikkorenvall428]

Would be interesting to see comparisement with Patria AMV, Rhein Metall Puma and Boxer which are basicly made for the same purpose.

[@zhufortheimpaler4041]

Patria AMV is drasticly lighter armored than Boxer but has similar mine blast protection. Boxer is also faster, but is not amphibious (like Patria AMV when it got its hightest level protection mounted. Patria is only amphibious in its lowest protection level and in that case is only protected against small arms) Puma is completely different, as it is a full blown heavy IFV with even heavier protection.

[@85daniel]

Patria is a pure ATV, The Boxer have much more armour and modules which make the vehicle to an IFV, the puma is a pure IFV with the best armour. In germany there is the plan to have light, medium and heavy combat groups. The light groups are e.g. paratroopers, in the medium groups is the boxer the default vehicle and in the heavy groups there are e.g. the Leopards, the Pumas and the Panzerhaubitze-2000. Aditional germany plans to buy a new ATV to replace the fuchs(maybe the patria) in the future for the troops which are normally not in the hard combat zone(e.g. electronic countermeasures).

[@tobiwan001]

The Puma is much more heavily armoured and more specifically designed as an IFV. It carries missiles as well as the remote controlled turret. The German Army initially planned to only use the Boxer in the APC role, but has now also acquired a better armed version as a reconaissance vehicle and will likely buy a similar version for its "Mittlere Kräfte" (mobile forces that use heavily armed but wheeled vehicles).

[@patta8388]

@@tobiwan001 Yeah, we're getting 30mm turret versions and 155mm howitzer versions. Option for 105mm tank hunter is still on the table

[@markhuckercelticcrossbows7887]

so when we rebranding the british army, the royal german reserve? i think the old land rover wolfs, are the last british vehicles, even the rifles will now be american

[@jamesamas5527]

still have challenger and all sub variants. bulldog as well. doesnt matter if we used all german vehicles or swedish or whoever. good kit is good kit. important part is if its built in the uk which a majority of boxer is. along with ajax and challenger 3

[@markhuckercelticcrossbows7887]

@@jamesamas5527 well thats my point with the trucks etc. the brand does not matter, the fact is, we are financially in the sh1t and we are still hemorrhaging money, while british companies are still collapsing, obviously, most recent is vauxhall, just being bouth as part of psa group. at one point ALL our trucks wree Bedford, Albion, Foden or Leyland. (DAF)

[@jamesamas5527]

@@markhuckercelticcrossbows7887 true, while yes i think at the moment we should stick with RBSL, MAN and the like we do need to have it all produced here in the UK to make more jobs and bring more money in. for example i think we need to open more munitions factories to become a large exporter again

[@markhuckercelticcrossbows7887]

@@jamesamas5527 yep, colt, have got to be laughing with the armalite m16 ar15 range, im wondering if the gov have done a deal on ammo as well, they done it with nearly all the munitions on all our new fighters. it is funny how as soon as erf was absorbed into man, uk army switched to man, from leyland foden.

[@jamesamas5527]

@@markhuckercelticcrossbows7887 yh. well we make enough ammo for our rifles and defo have the ability to upscale it

[@JackoJackson-v2p]

How is union Jack boxer going to be hidden on combat duties

[@Bob10009]

A blanket.

[@HMSConqueror]

Instead of farting around with the Ajax, they could have stayed on this program, that produced a superb 8x8 APC/IFV instead of wasting time on the failed Ajax and the failed Warrior upgrade.

[@skooma1855]

Repeat after me, B.A.E not Bae!.

[@keibohow69]

I think it's abad idea. why logistics and cost, How many vehicles will it take to transpoprt one base unit and various modules? how many modules to one base unit? Plus you would have to add a crane to the mix. So how many cranes would be needed? So in a time of battle, lets say you have 10 base units and say 3 modules per a base unit. Where do you store the modules? Other alternative you have 10 uints 3 of one type, 3 of one type, and 4 of one type. Which setup will be the cheapest and fastest to move and get operational? Let alone the fastest and cheapest to manufacture And store? Another example you do the module set up 3 to 4 base units get taken out, what do you do with the modules?

[@immortallvulture]

It’s not necessarily something you’d use on a battlefield but the idea is that if you have something like a humanitarian crisis you can take a bunch of ambulance modules out of storage. Use them on a bunch of boxer hills that we’re doing other things and ship them out. But even in a war armies will create safe areas behind the lines for vehicle repair and maintainence, you could theoretically take a bunch of spare modules on the back of trucks or transported I; aircraft and swap them onto boxer hulls in these areas.

[@bryanwright172]

Odd that the UK is getting the Boxer and Ajax whilst potentially upgrading the Warrior. This means that every trooper will have his very own vehicle as the numbers of troops are cut back.

[@ericb.4358]

If the Brits see the BOXER is so important then WHY is the US beginning to get rid of its very similar STRYKER battalions? Maybe US Army troops holding small Pacific islands would find STRYKER IFVs very useful.

[@jacob79001]

Replacing an IFV with an APC is mind boggling. You turn mechanised infantry into 'not-so-light Infantry'. Hearing all the arguments made for that decision was like walking into the logical fallacy enthusiasts club.

[@joelsmith-rainey60]

This start is footages from the Australian boxer factory and proving ground. 😉

[@MW-mg3qf]

It's the Rheinmetall Australia Factory. So it's a German Company on Australien Soil.

[@Colin-Fenix]

Seriously, video makers.. we understand that I narrators are here to stay since you obviously don’t have anyone who can narrate your videos, but please, please learn to write manuscripts that AI narrators can read properly… it is Rhein Metaal, not a Rhein Metal. It is Bee Aye Eee Land, not Bay Land. Do over and do right!

[@davelee4885]

If they continue building at the current speed they'll be obsolete by the time the last one is built

[@1s3ngr1m]

At least these things seem to drive, unlike our german Puma, the most technologically sophisticated doorstop ever!

[@gordonlowe7157]

Get rid of a tracked vehicle because its 30mm gun was unstablised and give them a wheeled beast with an unstable 50 caliber. You couldn't make it up. I don't have a problem with wheels but give our guys the turreted version

[@bruceburns1672]

Little by little all British weaponry is turning German or American, the spiral of decline of Britain continues unabated.

[@yeahbutytho126]

B.A.E systems. Not bay systems

[@marcelpavlik7976]

623 is a large scale?

[@johncherskov5755]

2 questions: what does this do that other ones don't do? We know tanks/vehicles like heavy IFVs are increasingly useless on a modern battlefield, so, why make this now? Without knowing a real answer to the first question, there's no real purpose in producing these. Opinion: It'd possible be better to invest in a stealth motorcycle lol. Or, upgrade a nice cheap yet effective infantry carrier if needed, like the US hmmvv or MRAP that are essentially just cars with mounted things on them; where it's cheap enough, yet good enough to protect the troops and provide fire support, so losing one isn't a big deal either. There's a reason why fitting cheap, old solutions with upgrades to fit the current purpose, has been usually better than the cost of making something brand new that's just as vulnerable. It also seems like Britain just wants to try to make something itself and in doing so made something that's negligibly better, 'at best 10% better', for a much larger cost. They'd be better off, if they could make like a competitor F35 plane or something else to specialize in. No one is going to want these vs the competition, unless you can answer the first question and prove the vehicle is revolutionary somehow.

[@Phillip_Reese]

Give them to Ukraine.

[@robertwalsh4408]

Yes and any scumbag who invested money into a company like that when it's all going up in smoke I hope you can look your children in the eye.. 🤮

[@GeorgeBodley-hs1ss]

It can be destroed like any other military vehicle.

[@fredtedstedman]

BEE_AY_EEEEEEEE systems for gods sake !

[@billpugh58]

whatever. I understood. was it difficult?

[@Optikification]

Ukraine proves these won't last against drones, mines and ATGM's.

[@TrevorEden]

Yes it Europe’s project, it cost lot more with Brexit,

[@dog11222]

All the faults should be fixed by the time the mk VII is ready ...lol

[@billpugh58]

you are always right about everything. and so very funny.

[@claymore2of9]

the thunderbird 2

[@nickmail7604]

Ahh well let's hope the next war is fought in a dry country with plenty of roads, if not we will go through the "shit these are crap off road, we need tracked vehicles ASAP" moment again, still it is cheaper with wheels.

[@markdavies9636]

This Boxer should not be a replacement for the Warrior Tank!

[@alexbengough7522]

The warrior isn't a tank

[@wudruffwildcard252]

Well you need to think about mobility and mobility doesn't always mean going off roads. Sometimes mobility means to get from the Netherlands coast to Eastern Poland as fast as possible! Tracked vehicles drive half the speed and start to replace their tracks halfway through Germany while a wheeled based ifv only needs to stop 5 minutes for gas. Every purchase is based on threat assessments and UKs main defense interest was and always will be to ensure status quo in Europe!

[@markdavies9636]

I do not disagree about Boxer mobility but at the end of the day we need both.

[@alexbengough7522]

@markdavies9636 we have challenger 3 tank and ajax too support

[@markdavies9636]

Ajax is only a light armoured reconnaissance vehicle not a armoured personnel carrier like the warrior and 140 challenger tanks will not be enough for any war.

[@70agrr]

Bay systems.....

[@billyponsonby]

Right then, time to cancel failed Ajax and sue GDUK for taxpayers’ money back. Use this instead.

[@frankthompson6503]

Yes you shall need double the platform size to accommodate the amount of infantry division. Ajax platform with boxer and challengers 2 and 3 need to be given more platforms. How could we protect Britain from a few boxer and ajax and challengers tanks. Shetland islands north of Scotland. Four challengers 2 and 3 platforms. 20 boxer infantry support APC Four ajax platform with missles. Four challengers 2 and 3

[@archstanton6310]

Just like a stryker from usa

[@85daniel]

Much better protected, much more modern and modular

[@peckelhaze6934]

There is a strong similarity to the WWII German Sd.Kfz. 234 'Puma'.

[@rontol66]

B A E not bae or bay ffs.

[@billpugh58]

calm down

[@oldcynical2845]

Big deal.The English army is still not fit to fight.Centuries of a winning military tradition trashed by politicians.

[@viktoralferov2874]

сразу на переплавку - на орала

[@burimsallahu3209]

🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧💪💪💪💪💪

[@williammorrissey3069]

Pity there not made here

[@888ssss]

they just need to get some pawns o fill em.

[@dellvargas6889]

A wagon seems to me😂

[@alexstewart5893]

Unlucky rich boy.

[@agungprasetyo2665]

Ready to turn peace into terror in some 3rd world country that have oils😂

[@razssyliequilantang]

give tlealtguhpoyne(negros island mega city) 40 boxer tank

[@nikolaucznaum4312]

A joke the UK can't build an APC!!....

[@leemurf2322]

We can but we have chosen to buy a ready made one which has a proven track record. Makes sense to me! A lot of countries choose to buy instead of manufacturing. Look how many countries bought the F-35 instead of designing new fighter jets!

[@davarosmith1334]

Don't talk pish!

[@danielh4032]

UK was part of the consortium to develop the vehicle, then pulled out and is now buying what the others designed.

[@Demun1649]

Typical England mess. The Victorians must be turning in their graves at the sheer incompetence. They can't even take a 1960s chassis and produce a better vehicle in the timescale demanded. The Boxer has inadequate protection for the troops carried. I would demand that the designers and engineers travel into real combat with the users. But, the cowards will never do that. They've been paid. And the comparisons between this and the French VBCI, don't come out in favour of the Boxer. A similar comparison between Boxer and the EBRC Jaguar, again, doesn't favour the Boxer. The Boxer is not even as well protected as a VAB, for heaven’s sake! Over time, over budget, and still not good enough to tag along with the tanks. Typical British modern efficiency.

[@yfelwulf]

Sweden sent its latest and best to Ukraine they lasted a few minutes 😂 one look says this is massively overweight for a wheeled vehicle and won't work in Mud

[@Bob10009]

Only one vehicle has been lost, dummy.

[@iandennis7836]

Janes fighting vehicles says otherwise 🙄

[@davidcottle7346]

It’s an oversized waste of time fuck sitting in that with these drones about ,things have changed to much in the last 15 months Drones have changed the landscape beyond belief

[@billsmith305]

So keep it away from mud 🤣

[@zhufortheimpaler4041]

its better armored than many IFVs today. And it has a terrain mobility comparable to an MBT like Leopard 2

[@thecurlew7403]

BA couldnt defend lon😅😅😅😅😅don.

[@marksteven6116]

not watch Ukraine wheels get shot off

[@MrFelipefelop]

So armoured expert, please explain the concept between wheeled and tracked vehicles considering battle damage,supply,logistics fuel over a prolonged period.???

[@marksteven6116]

they are cheaper to run but wheel will never match tracked on the battlefield @@MrFelipefelop

[@russell7489]

Drive them right onto a ferry and take to Ukraine. What are you going to do with them? Parades, boys toys for the soldiers? Just call up Biden and send the US the bill, say it's all part of UK's loyalty to our 'special relationship'.

[@catlee8064]

Would of been cheaper and easier to get CV90.....

[@EugeneEgar]

Its PuMa

[@Yahs232]

Omfg I hate this music

[@SebastianBotas]

30-_$

[@alexeyn1142]

Немцам конец!

[@TheExpatpom]

I always laugh at these crappy generated voiceovers pronouncing BAE as "bae" instead of "B A E". Also when they say something is an "M K five" or whatever because the idiots who made it never learned that "Mk" is shorthand for "Mark".

[@Nicklan1961]

Yeah we saw those in Ukraine burning with only those who ran surviving.

[@randuru]

To my knowledge nobody delivered boxers to Ukraine till now.

[@AW-Services]

Another massive waste of money. Impractical and looks like a 1980s Action Man toy. Soldiers need better wages, clothing and firearms

[@kanal756]

Baser 6 zırhlı araç insansız üzerine k9 a2sh obüs insansız yeni versiyonu tam otomatik 155.52kalibreli topu entegre ettim atış yapıyor etkili mevzil 130km. Azmi mevzil 190km. 30mm8namlulu makinalı topu entegre ettim 900kw lazer topu entegre ettim insansı robot asker kullanacak

[@namelesswarrior4760]

hahahahaha

[@alexbengough7522]

The Russians army is fading away each day! Eat our storm shadow

[@flyingdutchman7757]

wtf

[@wudruffwildcard252]

Damn, maybe Germany should have bought those 100+ Boxers from the UK instead of Australia!