The Walking Dead Universe is Falling Apart

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Жыл бұрын

The Walking Dead Universe is already falling apart. With some of the major shakeups happening at AMC Network, the ending of FearTWD and manuvering the entire release schedule, there is clearly a lot going on. Howveer, the BIGGEST issue is the creative decision to continue one with the same old tired trends that have been plaguing this series for over a decade. Let's discuss.
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@peterwong8028
@peterwong8028 Жыл бұрын
Aaron's first appearance and introduction to Alexandria I feel is the turning point of the entire show.
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork Жыл бұрын
That's a fair point.
@daddyshome275
@daddyshome275 Жыл бұрын
That was major turning point of whole show .
@blacklungs6508
@blacklungs6508 Жыл бұрын
Idk negan kinda carried the show in a good way too
@robbiepizza1124
@robbiepizza1124 Жыл бұрын
That was a good direction. Needed to get to ALEXANDRIA, right?...great choice to pick Ross as Aaron was a Nostalgic, Historic character of TWD. 👌
@yeattwizzyrichbitcointikok1120
@yeattwizzyrichbitcointikok1120 Жыл бұрын
@@blacklungs6508 I disagree, 7 and 8 are my least favorite seasons
@SaidNeff
@SaidNeff Жыл бұрын
I miss 2010 when this show first came out and playing Black Ops and Halo Reach 😢
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork Жыл бұрын
Right?!?! Those were the days.
@bradbred3800
@bradbred3800 Жыл бұрын
Especially since black ops had zombies as well
@iCookCrystalMeth
@iCookCrystalMeth Жыл бұрын
@@bradbred3800 and we’d gotten one of the best zombie games of all time a few months prior… what a time
@mosthated.e.2422
@mosthated.e.2422 Жыл бұрын
💯🔥
@WhiteMamba814
@WhiteMamba814 Жыл бұрын
Dam bro you hurt my soul with this one, If only I realized I was in the good ol’ days at that time I would of cherished every second.
@TheOldMan-75
@TheOldMan-75 5 ай бұрын
Apart from KZbin, I haven't heard anyone mention the Walking Dead in real life for almost a decade now.
@nick6956
@nick6956 6 ай бұрын
Most people say it fell off after Glenn. Season 7 and 8 are some of the best in the show though. I’d say it fell off after Rick left and there was a SIX year time jump. The whisperers were cool at time but they struggled to focus on 1 main story line after Rick left
@niatscreations4913
@niatscreations4913 Жыл бұрын
>find safezone >Lose safezone to an easily preventable mistake >repeat peak television
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork Жыл бұрын
Lol
@Man_Aslume
@Man_Aslume 2 ай бұрын
> bad guy comes > bad guy is bad > bad guy is defeated by good guys > repeat For extra flavor
@RossLemon
@RossLemon Ай бұрын
Why they couldn't have gone back to the prison and just fixed the fence is beyond me lol. But that wouldn't make for good tv.
@niatscreations4913
@niatscreations4913 Ай бұрын
@@RossLemon tbf the walls of alexandria where better than the fences.
@panspermiapancakes
@panspermiapancakes Жыл бұрын
The Walking Dead universe actually suffered because of how much they expanded. Not in terms of spin offs, but in terms of characters. It got to a point of having way too many point of view characters that we follow around for a while and things start to get messy as they run out material for certain characters and just have them in the background after awhile. Someone else mentioned the shows turning point was when Aaron showed up and he's right because it was the introduction phrase to a new era of dozens of characters and communities. It diluted things. I think part of the appeal of the new spin-offs is that they are no longer focused on a massive community of characters all taking up screen time on one show and instead shifting towards one or two characters point of view. Rick and Michonne should ideally get a proper ending without distractions of 20 other characters taking up screen time. Maybe I'm overly optimistic but I feel like all the shows are going to intertwine and come to a conclusion together. The CRM storyline is what is going to tie them all together. With the exceptions of Tales, because that show is just random experimental episodes with no general direction. Seemingly, anyways.
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork Жыл бұрын
While I agree with you, and I want the exact same thing, I'm just saying that everything coming out seems to indicate that there isn't much connective tissue between these shows. I hope I'm wrong because I want that grand finale that makes all these stories feel worth it.
@panspermiapancakes
@panspermiapancakes Жыл бұрын
@@KRWNetwork I'm speculating and theorizing but the connection between the series so far from what I have observed from TWD, FEAR, and World Beyond is the CRM. They first appeared in FEAR and while the story has seemingly moved past it, I think they are going to show up again in the final season. They kind of need to go that route or the show was kind of pointless. lol The material is already there for them to work with because Althea left the group to reunite with Isabel from the CRM. Even if that doesn't happen, there is also a theory that Alicia is immune to the walkers, which could tie her story into the CRM's potentially since they are doing experiments on walkers and humans. World beyond obviously ties in with the CRM through Jadis which gives small hints about Rick and the topics of A and B selections the CRM uses. Plus it was the first introduction of new strain of walkers. Which leads us to TWD's final season when they start slowing implementing new types of walkers into the show. These new zombies were likely created in the CRM lab experiments and then released into the "wild" to cause havoc. Plus, the CRM was responsible for taking Rick and Heath. Heath vanishes but there was evidence of a struggle and quick exit once he was subdued. His glasses were broken in half and laying on the cement and then there was a tire trail that spun away in the dirt from the ditch. The new spin offs are likely based around the CRM as well. Ricks show will be based around it, and Daryl is going to France which has something to do with the CRM and that video of doctor Jenner that was in France. I'm not sure about Negans show, but the CRM in Philadelphia and they'd have to travel through that area to get to NY, and the CRM is likely operating there as well.
@bggsz4
@bggsz4 Жыл бұрын
@@panspermiapancakes Yeah, a return is likely, the CRM have been present in every season of Fear since S5, and usually only in the first few episodes of each season. The CRM had some involvement in every part until 7A, so them not being in 7B won't write a S8 appearance off. Althea was the big connection to them being on Fear and she's gone now, but I still feel like both might appear again, a lot of people still find the "This is Althea's final episode for Season 7" very cryptic. Plus now we have P.A.D.R.E; PADRE means father in Spanish so that alone makes it sound like a division for the CRM making an army of kids like in WB, PADRE takes kids when they're babies and raises them to become soldiers.
@panspermiapancakes
@panspermiapancakes Жыл бұрын
@@bggsz4 I see you're fairly observant with the universe and the Easter eggs as well. I could have added a few more things but my reply was looking very long winded. I have a feeling Al shows back up. The showrunners will often say things to give it a sense of "permanence" but it's to avoid certain spoilers. They were very insistent that Madison had died even though they didn't show it and now she's back. I think the content creator of this channel had a valid point though with them possibly not connecting the universes because the FEAR cast was told it would be the final season and to wrap things up after they had already made like 4 or so episodes and they were also informed last minute that the season wouldn't be getting the full amount of episodes originally planned. This had to have made things extremely hectic on set and the writing may suffer from it yet again, disruption from AMC higher-ups. It's hard to say how much will be available and if they were able to bring Al's actress back. So, it's possible they might role with the storyline of Alicia being immune. Hard to say. I'm hopeful, and while the CRM connection is somewhat subtle and could be missed, it's probably the strongest connection of the shows within the universe. The only storyline that can tie it all together and give us a conclusion. If nothing else, Morgan could serve as the connection with FEAR and the rest of the universe, but that might be somewhat disappointing if he's the only true connection because his appearance on FEAR felt extremely forced when he first showed up.
@bggsz4
@bggsz4 Жыл бұрын
@@panspermiapancakes It really appears that AMC are ending Fear to cut ties with anything related to Kirkman, Darabont or any of those people that are suing them recently, all the upcoming spin-offs for example have nothing to do with them, so maybe AMC is following suit with Fear, ending the show, while continuing the characters' stories in another show that's strictly theirs and not tied to another studio that might want monetary compensation down the road. As for Fear ending, I think AMC and the Fear showrunners knew they'd be ending it with S8 for a while: Madison's return was already planned into the plot of S7 and S8 for a year before S7, also when they announced it, they said she's returning for seasons 7 and 8 (just 7 and 8, no mention of following seasons). Next, S8 was first reported as the final season almost a year ago from multiple sources, before or around the time 7B started filming (everyone just dismissed it because it wasn't AMC that said it directly, one site even mentioned the season would be shorter than usual). Finally, S7 pacing is extremely rushed, S4-S6 had good pacing overall no matter what people thought of the story, things started feeling a little rushed in 6B near the finale, then S7, especially 7B starts and ends at least four different storylines in a short period, three of which S6 set up (villain Strand, Doomsday Cult, leader Alicia, Alicia's infection, villain Wes, introducing PADRE), so I feel like they planned a bunch of stuff for the following seasons after S6, but AMC chose to end the series with S8, meaning the plot had to rush through what had been established to make room for S8 being just about PADRE. S7 just feels too broken and it feels unlikely for it to have been like that because of other reasons and not because of plans to end the show with the following season after going too big with the previous season. Same thing happened with TWD 11A, the reapers storyline was already planned, probably setting up a 12th season for the rest, but they had to rush through it because it was the final season and they had to make room for the Commonwealth storyline. So they might've told the rest of the Fear actors they're ending with S8 recently (unless Austin is faking not knowing with his post to maybe keep S8 things secret like who survives), but I feel like the crew already knew S8 would be the end in advance and not after finishing 8A, or even 7B for that matter.
@spacecats3649
@spacecats3649 Жыл бұрын
As a microbiologist, my ears perked when Jenner mentioned that the French were close to a breakthrough - it was a reference to the discovery of HIV. Before the discovery of HIV, scientists were on the scrabble to figure out the etiology of GRID (later AIDS). Luc Montagnier, French virologist, along with his team of French scientists were deemed the first to isolate HIV.
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork Жыл бұрын
Oh, wow. I didn't know that. Thanks for the info!
@ejoy78
@ejoy78 Жыл бұрын
The Jenner episode was the best, they should of incorporated that more into the show
@claudeturgeon385
@claudeturgeon385 Жыл бұрын
As francophone, and seeing that the only character with a french name was Ed Peltier ,a wife baterer ,in knew from the beginning that the french were responsible for this plague. 😏
@robirvine6970
@robirvine6970 Жыл бұрын
Is this a reference? I can't find anything to confirm that
@twentyfivemelody
@twentyfivemelody 9 ай бұрын
@@claudeturgeon385 Quel est le rapport entre un personnage qui bat sa femme et l'origine du virus ?
@acigarette9050
@acigarette9050 Жыл бұрын
i’m just really hoping they have something planned like a big movie where all these standalone shows lead to something. Personally all i want is a reunion between Rick and his kids as well as Rick and Daryl reuniting.
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork Жыл бұрын
I want to see Rick with Morgan as well. But, I agree with you completely. Maybe not a movie, but a 10 episode mini series where they fight the CRM? Something? Idk.
@verenamenzel8958
@verenamenzel8958 6 ай бұрын
and Im also looking forward to see michonneagain. I expect that fans like me deserve a plausible end, that includes the reunion of the maincharacters we are waiting for so long.
@ColossusFitness
@ColossusFitness Ай бұрын
This comment stood the test of time
@acigarette9050
@acigarette9050 Ай бұрын
@@ColossusFitness all i need now is Rick and Daryl reunion, most likely it’ll be in the finale of Daryl Dixon season 2 if they’re not doing a season 3.
@jjkilhij9531
@jjkilhij9531 Жыл бұрын
I feel like AMC has to let TWD breathe for a bit after these planned spinoffs come out. I love the franchise too, but there’s been a LOT of mediocre content that has killed potential interest for a lot of people. I’m really hoping these spinoffs end up being surprise bangers. Also, if somebody else (like HBO, etc) bought out TWD that would be great. Whether or not the series is rebooted, it deserves to have more money and care put into it!
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork Жыл бұрын
HBO wouldn't buy TWD. I suspect, if it does come to that, Netflix will attempt to pick it up.
@daddyshome275
@daddyshome275 Жыл бұрын
@@KRWNetwork I really don't want HBO to buy twd because majority of their show ending is trash. Amc can make a contract with Netflix or Prime Video or Disney + ( because these three streaming services can provide good budget for each episode) . Amc will get good amount of money by twd and these streaming services will get viewership and subscriptions. Twd isn't working on amc there viewership is just dropping .
@daddyshome275
@daddyshome275 Жыл бұрын
@@KRWNetwork I don't know if it's true or not but to buy twd it ( not including whole spin offs ) will cost about 7 to 15 billion usd . Maybe it can be true because Season 9 alone earned 789 million usd .
@CurtisMiller1995
@CurtisMiller1995 Жыл бұрын
HBO would never buy TWD because they have TLoU. Why continue something that has a lot of baggage when you could have your own zombie show set in a fresh new universe with it's own rules and expand on that instead. Don't get me wrong, I love TWD, but I don't see anyone taking it unless they are gonna do a hard reboot.
@DukeJimbob
@DukeJimbob Жыл бұрын
Netflix would be only place to pick up more WD content they’ve done some good and bad bringing shows back. I liked Lucifer but they destroyed Manifest
@dizzydreamer333
@dizzydreamer333 Жыл бұрын
I have a horrible feeling that the show with daryl and dead city is going to to get cancelled after one season. That’s happening with almost every show coming out now especially when it’s within the same universe of a really popular show that (gossip girl is an example even though a lot of other things lead into it) A lot of older fans complain about how it’s nothing like the original shows and stop watching. I hope this doesn’t happen.
@dizzydreamer333
@dizzydreamer333 Жыл бұрын
also i better see a scene where michonne and rick reunite with their kids
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork Жыл бұрын
It is hard to say if that isn't the operating strategy for these shows. Idk if they are just rushing these spinoffs to introduce new focal point characters or if they are going to actually continue.
@mrde.
@mrde. Жыл бұрын
i think it’ll do fine. look at breaking bad and better call saul
@Trump-or-Die
@Trump-or-Die Жыл бұрын
Never!! AMC fully owns TDW universe, so this universe is what's been paying for every other show since the start.
@Whydoyoureadme
@Whydoyoureadme Жыл бұрын
How much different can it be tho? It's still a world of incredibly forgetful people living with dead people and cartoon evil villains.
@enigmatruecrime
@enigmatruecrime Жыл бұрын
What we need is another series in TWD universe about the start of the outbreak in a completely different setting.
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork Жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@gamertardguardian1299
@gamertardguardian1299 Жыл бұрын
Yea, i always wondered about what the US navy did near the end, their ships can be out at sea for months or even years without refueling, they just need food. Realistically, there should be active fleet even a few months after the apocalypse made up of nuclear subs, aircraft carriers, destroyers and cruisers, people randomly dying on these ships are rare, and I'm sure it would be easy to isolate outbreaks, and they have the firepower to raid coastal towns or cities for supplies. Would make for an interesting faction of ex US Navy
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork Жыл бұрын
Well, there was that FearTWD spin-off short where they showed the submarine, but I get you.
@ClassicCOD
@ClassicCOD Жыл бұрын
it will only work with the OG showrunner, soon as you create anything based off what 'the fans' want rather than creatively making your own vision. it goes wrong. like keeping negan alive was just to keep negan fans happy. He should have just been shot in the head mid speech on a random one my maggie. This would also reflect how he ruthlessly killed Glenn.
@jasonlewis9240
@jasonlewis9240 Жыл бұрын
Clementine
@harold3165
@harold3165 Жыл бұрын
The problem is that they're trying to create their own Marvel-esque universe around a television show that has been declining in popularity for years. There's no solid foundation for them to build off of.
@nermaljamslow9024
@nermaljamslow9024 Жыл бұрын
If you're talkin about a show that declined because the main character left that's completely normal. In addition what's GREAT IS GREAY. Netflix puts out tons of crap and there's really nothing as SOLID as Walking Dead, just look how the new Game of Thrones -isn't as good as the original BUT IT'S STILL BETTER THAN MOST OTHER TV SHOWS. The point is that you could create a million new TV shows but nothing is going to be TIMELESS as THIS series, great example is Seinfeld which still has some of the highest ratings to this day!! Seinfeld ratings dramatically dipped but what's wrong with trying to spin off of a show that's still amazing to this day? The new stuff definitely isn't good. The point is it's definitely something to create a spin-off of, to expand, it will always be that way because it was always amazing and timeless it's one of the best binge TV shows of all time. I would put it next to Game of Thrones. Declining is a normal problem for all television shows. Their obstacle is simply creating a new TV show that's just as deep and watchable, and that is always the problem. If they can pull this off then they will be one of the only ones
@MLtipstricksbeginnerguides
@MLtipstricksbeginnerguides Жыл бұрын
​@@nermaljamslow9024Not just because Andrew Lincoln left but the show is in decline since season 5 or 6,that's just how I feel,idk about the official views and stuff,I think most people think the same
@BenRai2k
@BenRai2k Жыл бұрын
They should have just focused on the main show, and Fear. I seriously doubt Andy would have left had they not killed Carl off.
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork Жыл бұрын
Maybe? Idk.
@promountain6113
@promountain6113 Жыл бұрын
is it bad to say that watching it the past through years has seemed more like a chore than an escape from life
@a.ym05
@a.ym05 Жыл бұрын
Youre 100% correct. Such a shame to go out the way it did.
@allieboy181
@allieboy181 Жыл бұрын
I disagree. Everytime I watch it I feel home. Brings back memories. Even tho the show is crazy violent lol
@promountain6113
@promountain6113 Жыл бұрын
@@allieboy181 even season 11
@allieboy181
@allieboy181 Жыл бұрын
@@promountain6113 I do agree some what. But that’s because of the filler arc with the reapers in the beginning. A whole goddamn 7 episodes of it lol. I just wanted them to get to the common wealth already
@iamomen
@iamomen Жыл бұрын
i 100 percent felt that way watching s7-s8. as i was the only one in my family still watching it lol.
@JimBrodie
@JimBrodie Жыл бұрын
What impressed me was the kids in World Beyond practically travelled as many miles as Morgan did from Georgia to Texas.
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork Жыл бұрын
LOL so dumb.
@XozuisBATMAN
@XozuisBATMAN Жыл бұрын
Bro it’s hard to believe u only have 480 subscribers… ur content is really good keep up the good work man. I hope u make it big, u deserve it 😊
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@peterwong8028
@peterwong8028 Жыл бұрын
@@KRWNetwork I mean did you just get started or something?
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork Жыл бұрын
I've been at KZbin for a while, but I've never gotten big or anything. Started over because I needed to rework my content.
@cloudynovacaine
@cloudynovacaine Жыл бұрын
@@KRWNetwork u never questioned if sum up becuz u got 100k views on this video u should deff have more subs🤣
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork Жыл бұрын
@@cloudynovacaine What?
@TheMightyCookieShow
@TheMightyCookieShow Жыл бұрын
I would be very very interested in a slow-burn story of the start of the overtaking of the World by the dead. I know we got a taste of that In Fear The Walking Dead but it was what two episodes and then they were just like you're saying trying to survive. I just I think a slow-burn that that could really have to what caused all this would be a very interesting show
@UndeadLavender
@UndeadLavender Жыл бұрын
much rather that, than what they are currently doing. AMC, take note.
@JaeOvrZane
@JaeOvrZane Жыл бұрын
They won’t ever do that, they only will show an ending of the outbreak, if they showed how it started it would be terrible
@Father_Daniel
@Father_Daniel Жыл бұрын
Connecting the three spin-offs and the final season of Fear to the CRM is the best way to have all these shows connect. They made 20 episodes of the world Beyond simply to introduce us to the CRM. Every show coming out has the story based on someone being taken/kidnapped. Connect everything to the CRM and the fight to get Rick back and they could really making awesome story. All the pieces are there they just have to connect the dots
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@robbiepizza1124
@robbiepizza1124 Жыл бұрын
The over dramatic scene of Glenn's death put a bad taste in the non comic book readers mind and mouth because most didn't know how Glen dies. Also Glen knew his time would come because when he and the Alexandrians Heath went to that Negan outpost and started killing people in their sleep Glen knew karma would pay a visit soon or a later.
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork Жыл бұрын
Not sure Glenn knew, but it was a heavy foreshadowing moment.
@dizzydreamer333
@dizzydreamer333 Жыл бұрын
We knew he could be the one to die so we were preparing for that but when they killed abraham having us think glenn was safe, and then turning around and killing him 5 mins later is what left the bad taste. especially since we thought glenn was possibly dead for a few episodes in a previous season.
@sabless
@sabless Жыл бұрын
I hope that in Rick and Michonne, the variants pose more of a threat.
@RobotFrosstedFLAkes
@RobotFrosstedFLAkes Жыл бұрын
Two of the spin-offs already raise way more eyebrows in bad ways than they do good A negan and maggie duo expedition seemingly without their children makes for a hell of a hole to write out of And daryl leaving jude/ rj given everything that goes on in the series is even harder to get behind The tragic thing is they’ll still get me because it’s daryl
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork Жыл бұрын
They have seemed to confirm that Maggie and Negan are going to look for Hershel, which is a good thing. Seems like Daryl gets kidnapped, for reasons unknown. Although, the more we learn about it, the less sense it makes. Doesn't sound like the CRM did it. They got me too. Hahaha I'm here till the end.
@RobotFrosstedFLAkes
@RobotFrosstedFLAkes Жыл бұрын
@@KRWNetwork even then it’s just those two specific characters spending any prolonged period of time together seems odd. Ik the last season left their relationship in a less volatile place but I thought maggies final speech to negan spoke more to why something like this could never happen What’s atleast fun is the community being so speculative/active again helps possibly put things into place I say all this stuff though genuinely hope that all these series end up being great because I love twd Thanks for making a great video btw I hope you find traction
@allieboy181
@allieboy181 Жыл бұрын
@@RobotFrosstedFLAkesyeah but negan is also pretty much in debt to her. I agree tho, they should have at least added Elijah to the show. Seeing how loyal he is to Maggie and he’s a bad ass fighter. And the fact that we don’t really know shit about him. This would have been a cool way to see more of him!
@zccau2316
@zccau2316 Жыл бұрын
We want to see the main characters TOGETHER looking for a bigger purpose than themselves - not separate doing random things. It looks like AMC are trying to milk TWD as they have for years
@tomoates8568
@tomoates8568 11 ай бұрын
That's interesting that you mention season 6 episode 9 being the ending of the first phase of the story, because that's exactly where I stop watching when I re watch the show. I've seen up to about halfway through season 10 before I finally gave up on it, there were too many new characters, too many communities, and the majority of my favorite characters were dead or just left the show. To me, midway through season 6 when they take back Alexandria from the zombies is a pretty satisfying ending and it even almost gives you a happy ending with showing you at the very end that Carl is alive. I love the walking dead, but it is one of those shows that in my opinion went on for far too long and at this point really does just feel like a cash grab with all these spin offs in the works
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, I agree about that episode being a good breaking off point. That's kind of why I made the argument that it is a good end point for a theoretical "phase" of the story. They definitely switched gears after that.
@HA5HGrimes
@HA5HGrimes 11 ай бұрын
Originally robert kirkmans plan was actually to end the show when the group reached Alexandria actually
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, that would have been an interesting ending, but I'm glad that he pushed forward.
@logans6058
@logans6058 Жыл бұрын
Good video brother. I could see you really blowing up, really thought-out well written content. I love Rick :(
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork Жыл бұрын
I love Rick too, btw.
@Mr1nv1s1ble
@Mr1nv1s1ble Жыл бұрын
Great vid pal💪 first time coming across your channel and I was very impressed! I think TWD has suffered setbacks before, and the fundamental setback was losing Rick in season 9. At that point it almost felt like I was watching a spin off, of the future after he was gone. I do believe though all spin offs will have 1 season, and will be intertwined for a final season called; ‘We Are The Walking Dead’.
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork Жыл бұрын
That would be really cool. I would love that.
@gechoman44iwantahippo
@gechoman44iwantahippo 11 ай бұрын
There are two reasons why I don’t think a cure is ever gonna happen: 1. I feel like Robert Kirkman still has enough say in the show to prevent that and/or the producers know that a cure defeats the point of the story/want to respect him not wanting one. 2. There are episodes of Tales that take place far after where I think the spinoffs will end.
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork 11 ай бұрын
I don't think Robert Kirkman has as much protection over the television universe as he does with the comics and games. Additionally, a cure doesn't mean that everything would be fixed everywhere. Look what's happened in real life.
@westonmeyer3110
@westonmeyer3110 6 ай бұрын
The cure doesn’t defeat the point of the story, the story needs a cure to have a point.
@gechoman44iwantahippo
@gechoman44iwantahippo 6 ай бұрын
@westonmeyer3110 Kirkman’s original pitch for TWD was “a zombie apocalypse that never ends.” It’s better for the communities to evolve to the point where the zombies aren’t even a threat anymore (like in the ending to the comic), than to have a cure.
@westonmeyer3110
@westonmeyer3110 6 ай бұрын
@@gechoman44iwantahippo Zombies that are literally infinite in number will never stop being a threat, especially when they can be ANYWHERE. “The rat will get tired but the dead never stop” All it takes is one Lizzie or one Governor or one Dakota and your entire group gets sick or loses someone important or you lose your shelter. You can’t tell people to stop dying, to stop living, to stop dreaming. The cure is literally the only solution. Everything else is just fictional bullshit that can be picked apart using the rules that the writer himself set up.
@teairahvelasquez3778
@teairahvelasquez3778 Жыл бұрын
I just want Rick and michonne to have a happy ending and meet Judith again, and ALSO to have a badass fighting scene of michonne with her sword (she’s my favorite character)
@nobodiesaltbutmine6674
@nobodiesaltbutmine6674 Жыл бұрын
Cringe fan service
@sunshine20yearsago51
@sunshine20yearsago51 Жыл бұрын
​@@nobodiesaltbutmine6674 why do you have a serial killer as your pfp
@zainali-lm4zr
@zainali-lm4zr Жыл бұрын
The only badass female characters in the show were Carol and Maggie. Michonne felt way too forced and cringe, her whole character peaked when she killed the walkers on the leash. Everything after was just her as a female counterpart to Rick. If the series was good they'd never have made her Rick's love interest. It just limits Rick's character
@kurdaaa6988
@kurdaaa6988 Жыл бұрын
​@@zainali-lm4zr what you on about up? 😭 Michonne is one the best characters in the show
@gechoman44iwantahippo
@gechoman44iwantahippo 11 ай бұрын
@zain ali well, I think Carol was forced for most of the show. Her story from seasons 3-8 felt pointless to me, and I didn’t think her story in season 11 was very meaningful either, so… to each their own. I think Michonne was way better than her as a character.
@johnbadman3340
@johnbadman3340 Жыл бұрын
I think going forward, they need to shape the world to be much more like the old west than the apocalypse. I like the idea for dead city that NYC is largely intact and a commonwealth-like community, and they should definitely focus more on those and the politics within them as opposed to either surviving the zombie threat or the human threat. I think you're spot on in saying that the survival element is tired, and at this point in the TWD world, it's not unrealistic for the world to have evolved this way either
@LippyHungstocking
@LippyHungstocking Жыл бұрын
Let's face it the Golden Age of AMC has come and gone ,but oh my what a helluva ride it's been.
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork Жыл бұрын
That's fair.
@XtremeKillah101
@XtremeKillah101 Жыл бұрын
Just like the stock
@greggeiger7532
@greggeiger7532 Жыл бұрын
All I wanted was for Rick to come back for the last episode or 2. Don’t know if they are setting up for a movie or what but I was bummed we didn’t get to see him. (Not in any way that really mattered).
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork Жыл бұрын
They are setting up for the new series.
@mikeh2887
@mikeh2887 Жыл бұрын
His new series starts filming soon.
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork Жыл бұрын
@@mikeh2887 yup. 2024 release date, as I said in the video.
@chillchillin9784
@chillchillin9784 Жыл бұрын
Hey yo there setting up a series
@GodWorksOut
@GodWorksOut Жыл бұрын
They said for years there would be movies but I knew it was a lie to keep people watching.
@tofuu2619
@tofuu2619 Жыл бұрын
i feel like this show was very good in earlier seasons, aside from very slow episodes. i do think that it did end up going a little downhill after a while. instead of trying to make new ideas or just have a mix up of the formula for the show, i feel like the writers stuck to the basics of fighting somebody and then walkers (not saying that’s a bad thing, just feel like it got a little old). maybe i’m wrong, but i feel like this show lost its spark. dont get my wrong, many episodes and seasons kept me wanting more and just being overall hyped for a new episode, but i feel like it kinda lost its purpose you know? i think it should have ended a while ago since i feel like it did drag on later seasons. also, a thing i noticed in the show is that characters would be shown and then killed but we don’t really get to know them that much or really have a connection to the character, which just seems like we SHOULD care but it doesn’t really effect much. overall, i’m sad to see the show end but wish it ended a little sooner to not see the downfall of it as much as it was shown
@ClassicCOD
@ClassicCOD Жыл бұрын
it did, everyone i know who watched it literally stopped at season 6, Negan was such a dislikable character I don't understand how it all became about him and they tore apart the core group we learnt to love over 5 years. Also with Maggie literally growing up Family orientated and she has had the mentality of mess with family you get killed engrained in her since birth. But no she forgives him.......... no no no Negan needed a bullet through the head
@chiley3221
@chiley3221 Жыл бұрын
Honestly I agree but for the longest time I’ve always wanted to know how the virus came to be or how did it start that’s the one thing I am excited for the Daryl series.
@Kdriggs15
@Kdriggs15 Жыл бұрын
Look, I don't need the franchise to keep going for another decade. I just want Rick, Michonne, Judith, Daryl, and the rest of the gang to see each other one last time. That and for Rick to meet his son.
@diana-qf5dw
@diana-qf5dw Жыл бұрын
All I’m asking for is that Daryl, Rick, and Michonne come out of their shoes alive and well.
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork Жыл бұрын
Those are some dangerous shoes.
@diana-qf5dw
@diana-qf5dw Жыл бұрын
@@KRWNetwork lmaooo I barely realized I misspelled “show”
@Man_Aslume
@Man_Aslume 6 ай бұрын
​@@KRWNetwork Fear the walking shoes
@justinpatton6996
@justinpatton6996 Жыл бұрын
I do agree with No Way Out ending part of one but not the whole first part, I think season 8 ends part 1 of TWD because we still have rest of S6 to continue where as Season 8 fully ends. And Rick states Walkers are death, they can handle them. And they created a safe society in the Apocalypse, mixed with enemies and friends showing they can move past things for a better future. That ends part 1 and part 2 Is how to maintain society in the Apocalypse. That's what I thought. Love the video dude 👍
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork Жыл бұрын
I understand what you mean, but I'd argue that line is more reflective of the second part of a survival story. The characters have learned to live so well that they fell into infighting... forgetting the real threat.
@justinpatton6996
@justinpatton6996 Жыл бұрын
@@KRWNetwork yeah, and I was also using the showrunners and directors implying Season 8 finale concludes the story from season 1. That makes sense to me, but I still completely agree with your video.
@ohsheit6120
@ohsheit6120 Жыл бұрын
it’s kinda strange how now they’re splitting up the series now. I mean all the actors are still apart of the franchise wouldnt it just make sense to continue the walking dead for another few seasons
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork Жыл бұрын
It is a cutting costs/streaming rights issue.
@RiotWild
@RiotWild Жыл бұрын
Gonna have to come back to watch this later. I have 3 episodes left to finish TWD and havent heard of the spins off you mention. I'll have to find and watch them or a summary
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork Жыл бұрын
They haven't come out yet. I'm going off of what we've seen and heard of the spin-offs.
@RiotWild
@RiotWild Жыл бұрын
@@KRWNetwork Oh I meant Fear the Walking Dead and The World Beyond. I've been watching the recaps of them since I posted the comment lol
@johncap6495
@johncap6495 Жыл бұрын
So glad I found your channel. We seen gave alot of similar likes. Not just walking dead. I love Stallone and action movies. And horror movies like Halloween.im trying learn how to a channel of my own channel too.
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork Жыл бұрын
Go for it!
@polishgarnek
@polishgarnek Жыл бұрын
Well The last of us from HBO came out As a person who watched like +10 movies/tv shows about zombies I can say it's really good and not rushed into action like other shows did
@ClassicCOD
@ClassicCOD Жыл бұрын
the last of us is so well done. It feels smilar to the start of TWD, you focus on the characters and emotions. but the walking dead just lost this and it was just negan negan negan
@dylanroemmele906
@dylanroemmele906 Жыл бұрын
@@ClassicCOD I think Negan is cool but the whole thing that spawned around him that boils down to Hitl- sorry... Negan did nothing wrong! is just cringe and they are really trying to force him in.
@ClassicCOD
@ClassicCOD Жыл бұрын
@@dylanroemmele906 I can understand why he is a likeable character for sure, I honestly did try watch it through onto season 7-8 but stopped. Few years later I tried again and honestly omg why does it long out so much😂 I actually got to where it skips a few years. Rick's kid was cringe, the CGI lion, carol looking like the dragon out of never ending story. Just the script and acting skill dropped massively. It's a shame really. Let's not forget Negan is still alive after virtually destroying the whole thing we got attached to for years😭
@Megalodon.666
@Megalodon.666 Жыл бұрын
@@ClassicCOD carol and the tiger king dude taking out most of screentimes are the reasons why I stopped watching the show. too much background characters.
@sskspartan
@sskspartan Жыл бұрын
@@Megalodon.666 imagine calling Carol, from the original Atlanta group, a background character lol
@thefoxdoctor1072
@thefoxdoctor1072 Жыл бұрын
I miss the first four seasons to be honest. It just seems to me all the good characters/actors were killed off and all the new characters/actors they brought in around seasons 7-12 were junk in my opinion.
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork Жыл бұрын
You think? I liked a few of them, and the ones introduced in 4 and 5 (Aaron, Rosita, and Gabriel) are all so awesome.
@MLtipstricksbeginnerguides
@MLtipstricksbeginnerguides Жыл бұрын
Finally someone I can agree with,season 1-4 are also my favorites,I quit twd around season 5 or 6 and haven't been in touch with anything related to it in years but what I pick up randomly on internet from time to time it is safe to say the seasons 5/6 to whatever season was the final sucked
@finnsventure8885
@finnsventure8885 Жыл бұрын
All that to say I agree. This was a very well done video man. The first phase of the walking dead will always always be the best and my fav of the series
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork Жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks a lot. Yeah, the first phase was pretty good, but the second had a lot of good points (Fear season 3).
@Adellso
@Adellso Жыл бұрын
Just finished TWD not know this was the finale. Very sad to this go. Hope this get resolve somehow. I would to see the other story get an ending.
@Daw3D
@Daw3D 5 ай бұрын
I watched everything the series have to offer and I still think the telltale game did a much better story overall with characters I care more about. Would be great to have a live action of the game and tie that into the main show.
@yeaaight1689
@yeaaight1689 Жыл бұрын
Dope analysis, surprised you only had 600 subscribers with this good quality 😂. Good luck though bro.
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork Жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks a lot!
@MonzterMichelle
@MonzterMichelle Жыл бұрын
AMC and Netflix should have had a partnership years ago on making shows and streaming. Its insane that I only just got to watch Better Call Saul season 5 and I cant watch Interview with a Vampire at all since I refuse to get another streaming service that ultimately doesn't offer nearly enough as others.
@mr.goodboi2780
@mr.goodboi2780 Жыл бұрын
This universe is so cool and unique and it's sad to see they didn't want to go all out and do a huge Avengers team up movie thing. There are enough great characters over all 4 shows that would make that type of thing fucking awesome but they just haven't got there. It's like the franchise is always in a weird limbo where the universe can't move forward, most likely due to the cancelled films. It's just new stories that stand alone, some of which aren't at the same time, which I love but there should be way more connections by now. I don't want to wait 10 more years to see it. They should also use Tales to set up what comes after. It's weird. It's probably more AMC's fault than Gimple (or incompetence in terms of Fear's crew to tell meaningful stories) and it's sad. I still love this franchise though, and I loved the series finale and how they went about setting up what's next. Unlike a lot of people I also really liked World Beyond and Tales and I want to see how they're gonna even try to tie these stories together. I've invested too much time to not see where they go with it. Fear season 4 to 7 has definitely made me rethink that many times though 😂.
@VioletAeonSnowfield
@VioletAeonSnowfield Жыл бұрын
I mean the Rick and Michonne show could never have been all that long. Rick left the show because Andrew Lincoln wanted a break for his family. EDIT: Also, I feel the turning point of the show is the moment where Rick, sitting in a car outside of Alexandria holds his breath and only hears the sounds of children laughing; rather than the chaos of the world they've been surviving in until then. EDIT 2: I do think having the CRM serve as antagonist for all of the spin-offs would have been the better move from a story standpoint.
@hutrod7721
@hutrod7721 Жыл бұрын
After what 10-12 years in the apocalypse it's amazing there is still usable fuel for anything let alone helicopters. How is Daryl getting to France? You can't just call Delta and book a flight.
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork Жыл бұрын
There are multiple groups who have been able to make fuel.
@nermaljamslow9024
@nermaljamslow9024 Жыл бұрын
I really hope they learn a lesson from Star Wars and Marvel. Although they started as a TV show so they have some advantages and I feel like it's a lot easier to replicate Walking Dead stuff but I just hope they learned some lessons from like the Mandalorian and all this other stuff that's failing you got to take your time, you got to do it right you got to stretch it out I don't think it's possible to do like five shows at once
@Davidthestratman7
@Davidthestratman7 Жыл бұрын
I feel the major turning point of the show was the introduction of the governor. He's the first main villain the group truly encountered that wasn't just a group passing through surviving and his Woodbury set us up, the viewers, for other new civilizations like Alexandria, Commonwealth, etc.
@MLtipstricksbeginnerguides
@MLtipstricksbeginnerguides Жыл бұрын
Governor was the best villain in the show in my opinion
@gasmaskalan1771
@gasmaskalan1771 5 ай бұрын
@@MLtipstricksbeginnerguidesyeah, negan is charismatic character who eventually becomes a protagonist, but the governer was a true villain
@scottblanco5991
@scottblanco5991 Жыл бұрын
Should have just been a 10 season show. They tried milking it for as long as they could. I feel like the lore of getting a cure and learning where it came from should have been explored more. I think most people were interested in that.
@allieboy181
@allieboy181 Жыл бұрын
It was adapting the comics. Also yeah people have been interested in that but Robert Kirkman was making zombie apocalypse where that doesn’t matter and it’s never coming. The apocalypse is just the new way of life. Which is different. Also it makes it a little less science fictiony
@MLtipstricksbeginnerguides
@MLtipstricksbeginnerguides Жыл бұрын
Even 10 seasons is too much,I kinda lost interest in the show at season 5 and I was a huge twd fan,the first few seasons were the best in my opinion
@lethalButters
@lethalButters 5 ай бұрын
I think an idea like this just got stretched too long. I personally felt like the constant war between two different groups of survivors got really stale. the Governor was a cool villain and was introduced after the zombies stopped being a significant threat. but then it was just villain after villain, cliff hanger after cliff hanger. I loved the show for the first 6 or 7 seasons but couldn't finish out the Negan saga since it was just shooting and people killing people. I'll admit I have no idea how to end it, especially now. I suppose just a time skip of zombies decaying off and a plan for the dead. If they keep going whats the threat? More gun fights? na I'm done.
@anonyman2141
@anonyman2141 5 ай бұрын
The only thing that makes sense to keep the show running would be an evolution of the walkers. Those whole 5 minutes when they introduce the whisperers where you ask yourself whether zombies are smart now was a perfect example, or think left 4 dead or state of decay with all of those extra mutated models
@nicogonzalez7860
@nicogonzalez7860 Жыл бұрын
I remember being so hyped of the MCUing of TWD when Fear first launched. Now a bunch of shows/movies including TWD are taking the wrong lessons from the MCU. Man I wish they paid Andy Lincoln a big bag to finish out the series and end it at season 10.
@WorldofTomorrowInc
@WorldofTomorrowInc Жыл бұрын
As excited as I am for some of these new shows (minus the variant aspects) I think I would have been just as interested in seeing new shows taking place in other parts of the world to see how they dealt with it from the beginning onward. As long as it was all in english though.
@arcadianmorning
@arcadianmorning Жыл бұрын
🤨
@WorldofTomorrowInc
@WorldofTomorrowInc Жыл бұрын
@@arcadianmorning ?
@Supl3xcity
@Supl3xcity Жыл бұрын
THANK U, IVE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR YEARS. It would be sooooo dope to see other parts of the world
@peytonwortel65
@peytonwortel65 11 ай бұрын
I am a hardcore walking dead fan. I am not a hardcore fan of what TWDU has been since 2018. Ever since Scott Gimple became head producer, i have not been here for it. I am such a huge fan of Fear s1-3, I love it so much and I'm so attached to those characters, that world, that setting, and that vibe, and it pains me looking at anything FearTWD related from s4-8. TWD lost me a bit in seasons 7 and 8, but I realize not they aren't as bad as I remember, and s9-11 was decent, with the finale season being very lackluster imo sadly, but still all watchable and enjoyable. I'm glad it wasn't butchered as heavily as Fear was, the Clark family deserved so much better. World Beyond could've been great but- yeah so anyways.. Fear s1-3 and TWD s1-6, is all S tier content, and it will forever have my heart. TWD s7-11 is decent, along with Fear 4A and s6 but, everything else...? Maybe Dead city will be mildly interesting but I don't have any hope for anything else in this franchise. I think it could have been an amazing franchise if Fear had followed its original 7 season plan, TWD had stayed truer to the comics in its finale seasons, and the only other possible spin off being maybe the TWD typhoon novel that was set in china, keeping all stories separate telling their own unique narrative, giving us the views of a hero and his new found family (Rick grimes) a mother turned villain ultimately tearing her own family apart whilst trying to save them in the wake out the zombie outbreak (Madison Clark) and some other original story set in this dead world with no hope for a cure. It could've been great...
@luket3452
@luket3452 Жыл бұрын
Delaying Rick’s show is very ill advised. I still have conversations with casuals who stopped watching years ago who think Rick died because they saw advertisements for “Rick’s final episodes”. The normies haven’t even seen his “final” episode in season 9. Now they’re delaying his spinoff til next year after screwing up his supposed film trilogy! Pure incompetence from that hack Gimple!
@Jammet
@Jammet Жыл бұрын
My friend told me that in all these shows, literally almost all characters that he actually cared about, were killed off, and that's the entire cast of one of these shows. That is so dumb, I'm flabberghasted people are watching anyway. My friend stopped, and I sure would have.
@Kevintheconservative
@Kevintheconservative Жыл бұрын
This is what happens when a show is milked way to much
@Z3AL316
@Z3AL316 Жыл бұрын
Season 1 episode 1 “ days gone bye” To Season 5 episode 11 “ the distance”. That’s what I consider canon, I disregard everything that comes after, watching only those episodes makes the walking dead the perfect most definitive most epic zombie story with a great beginning, a great middle, and a great end. Iv rewatched the walking dead dozens of times and everytime I do I do it this way.
@wernermarais9059
@wernermarais9059 8 ай бұрын
It sucks that they showed the climbing zombies only at the end and didn't elaborate on it at all
@lynncollins5049
@lynncollins5049 Жыл бұрын
The Walking Dead Universe I hope AMC gives us some very good content so that Rick and Michonne can reunite not only with the two of them but at one point with Judith and RJ somehow they're going to have to bring this family back together hopefully making this journey through these other spin offs will bring us back the original content and quality of the show back .
@daddyshome275
@daddyshome275 Жыл бұрын
I think Rick and Michonne spin off would be better than twd . In twd stakes was not that high, I mean it's always about fight between 2 groups and zombies but in this new spin off we can actually see the involvement of CRM in the cause of apocalypse and how Rick and Michonne can stop it . Because as we seen in ftwd season 8 sneek peak Madison was bitten but she didn't turned into walker and crm is doing experiments on her to probably find a vaccine . We can actually see lots of variant walker in that spin off. Amc is sitting on gold mine I hope they use it perfectly and they should also cast a big name as a actor to provide viewership in this spin off.
@0fficer-friendly
@0fficer-friendly Жыл бұрын
I see you everywhere when it comes to TWD content lol.
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork Жыл бұрын
I've seen a lot of people pointing to the "bite" on Madison. But, it doesn't look like a bite. It looks like an infection from too many injections. Plus, the whole "OMG a cure/immune storyline" is kind of FearTWD's operating mentality for the last few years.
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork Жыл бұрын
His name is Daddy's Home. Hahahahaha
@daddyshome275
@daddyshome275 Жыл бұрын
@@0fficer-friendly what can I say I am a big Rick Grimes fan.
@daddyshome275
@daddyshome275 Жыл бұрын
@@KRWNetwork but that really looks like a teeth bite , I hope I am right. I really want to see a whole season 8 dedicated to the vaccine. If Rick grimes show up at the end of ftwd then it would be cherry on the top.
@sekenamcmurren2217
@sekenamcmurren2217 Жыл бұрын
Killing off Carl, Rosita, Tara and Andrea was a huge mistake! They should've kept Morgan on The WD end killed Negan the first chance they got!😒
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork Жыл бұрын
I think Negan got better, honestly. Wasn't expecting that.
@mappingshaman5280
@mappingshaman5280 Жыл бұрын
rosita was killed at the very end and tara barely did anything after the governors death. Carl and Andrea were definitely mistakes though.
@OptimusGary
@OptimusGary Жыл бұрын
Rosita at least made it to the very end of the series finale before dying. It's not like losing Rick. You didn't have to suffer through the final three seasons without her. Tara was a mostly unnecessary character. After she helped Glenn find Maggie, she never really did anything too substantial, she was just...there. Her biggest story line was Oceanside, which is considered by many to be the worst episode of the entire series. I would've killed her off on the slaughterhouse line in Terminus, right next to Robin Lord Taylor's character. Her death would've been just important enough to provide shock value with the audience, without seriously impacting the story line with Rick's group. Probably would've made her way more popular with fans, too.
@DanVisuals
@DanVisuals Жыл бұрын
i could see this happening ! great video!
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@donnymann6739
@donnymann6739 Жыл бұрын
I think the Walking Dead's just fine and I can't wait to see the spin-offs
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork Жыл бұрын
I'm excited for the spin-offs as well I just don't think they will build too much of anything very quickly
@JuhoSprite
@JuhoSprite Жыл бұрын
I want a breaking bad x Walking dead spin off
@cringeboy8864
@cringeboy8864 Жыл бұрын
I don't think they'd put the spinoffs as a season 12 due to one series in particular: Fear the Walking Dead. Only because of the fact that the Clark Family was only placed for the Fear Series. You could argue that Morgan and Dwight are in the show, but that's a meh thing. They could make season 12 be with Dead City, Daryl Dixon, and Rick and Michonne, but leave Fear be its own thing, but that's just an opinion thing.
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork Жыл бұрын
That's kind of what I meant. I wasn't including Fear because that has been its own thing for so long.
@cringeboy8864
@cringeboy8864 Жыл бұрын
@@KRWNetwork Ah ok, I didn't realize you implied that, my bad.
@CatDuckChu
@CatDuckChu Жыл бұрын
it does make sense to show other groups because there are so many people in the world of course there will be more group like ours or better. also our group doesnt have to be the ones to save the world our journey with them was to watch them survive not make a cure...
@lovannypso6116
@lovannypso6116 Жыл бұрын
Say Netflix did get The Walking Dead, and they wanted to make the spin offs into a season 12. A way they could do this would be to do it in parts. Similar to skins, where each season shows a different storyline with “different” characters. Part One could be Dead City, Part 2 could be Daryl Dixon with Part 3 being Rick and Michonne. The only issue I could see with this, would be, that the rumors of Rick and Michonnes show only getting 1 season, but say the other 2 shows get “renewed”, it could throw off that entire idea. Also for it to make the most amount of sense, they would have to make Part 1, be the most relative in time to season 11. Then Part 2 and 3. Which depending on which show is set earlier, and which show has the bigger time jump, could cause issue since 2 of the shows are planned to release this year, with Rick and Michonne releasing last. I think it would be a cool idea though, If all 3 shows are only meant to get one season, especially considering the number of episodes that are said to be in each show. Also a theory I have, about a “justification” that the Rick and Michonne Show only being 6 episodes, could mean Ricks death or even Michonne. And if that is our final look of the main group, I could see it being the final part to all 3 shows. With Rick dying, since we started with him, and it could be Daryl and Maggie and whoever else, finding this out and coming to terms with “The End”. And going their separate ways, for good.
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork Жыл бұрын
Very good point on how to get over the reedit of the spin-offs to a potential season 12. I agree that Rick story might end on the spinoff, but I hope not. Gives me Dexter New Blood vibes.
@ilikecinema33
@ilikecinema33 Жыл бұрын
TWD is another example of a studio milking an IP for as long as possible. This show could’ve been the best ever made but now it’s only wasted potential.
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork Жыл бұрын
I'd argue that is was one of the best shows ever made... despite the ups and downs.
@ilikecinema33
@ilikecinema33 Жыл бұрын
@@KRWNetwork I can agree with that. At its peak (creatively and statistically) only a few shows can touch it. I think that’s what saddens me because of where it ended up going story wise. I’m still holdin’ hope for the spin-offs though.
@Shockkings0714
@Shockkings0714 Жыл бұрын
It hasn’t milked anything until now. The comics end at the commonwealth
@ilikecinema33
@ilikecinema33 Жыл бұрын
@@Shockkings0714 I disagree, they could’ve told the whole story in 5-7 seasons but they stretched it to 11 seasons and 6 spin offs.
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Based solely on the source material, they milked a lot of stuff. Season 7 and 8 especially.
@i1ynn828
@i1ynn828 Жыл бұрын
great video! I’ve ALWAYS felt that the walking dead over stayed it’s welcome… i loved this show so much but it fell off harder than i’ve ever seen a show fall
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork Жыл бұрын
I think the show rebounds in season 9 through 11. It isn't as good as it was, but it was much better than seasons 7 and 8.
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork Жыл бұрын
I disagree. But that's okay.
@Tacor702
@Tacor702 Жыл бұрын
Holy hell, this video went around in circles so many times I’m dizzy now.
@Spooky_515
@Spooky_515 Жыл бұрын
TWD Universe is dead. Gimple refused to do anything new and when his idea’s turned to 💩 he doubled down instead of turning to someone else. If AMC hopes to revive this franchise they need to fire all show runners and spend a year searching for the right people to fill roles behind the scenes. Then they need to start fresh with new characters and new stories and maybe, MAYBE have brief appearances of familiar faces of the past on for an episode or two here or there. But there again it’s my opinion the only way this universe lives on is a fresh staff telling new stories with new characters. The old characters only serve to keep a very small number of fans coming back, said number grows smaller by the day. While at the same time the old characters keep old and potential new fans away from the product. Having already made up their minds that old names don’t interest them. Bottom line is TWD has always been a soap opera. Storylines will come and go, no matter how big so that means you need intriguing characters and entertaining dialogue. Gimp and company bled the existing characters dry and so it’s start from a clean slate and invest in talented performers and content creators or pull the plug
@Brendy733
@Brendy733 Жыл бұрын
All I know is, I long for the day when this universe is resting in peace.
@ClassicCOD
@ClassicCOD Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣
@sakuraneko2595
@sakuraneko2595 Жыл бұрын
It's like a freaking shonen, it just won't end
@datguy3581
@datguy3581 3 ай бұрын
Regardless of the direction they take, I think the biggest problem will be the overall quality. The unfortunate fact is that the quality level has declined since the early days of the Walking Dead. I don't know if modern Walking Dead will be able to attract new views.
@Tysard
@Tysard Жыл бұрын
A cure feels like the most obvious direction they're going for. Because of this, I hope they don't do it. There shouldn't be a cure, there shouldn't' be any way to just hit an undo button for the apocalypse. I'd much rather see them do something we don't expect while somehow not disappointing everyone that's stuck to this universe for so long. Whatever they do, I just want these upcoming spin offs to be good. Please dear god let them be good.
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork Жыл бұрын
I don't understand why everyone thinks that a cure would fix the world. We have a vaccine for our current pandemic, and it hasn't stopped it from being a major problem. A cure storyline represents a hopeful tone, it wouldn't fix everything immediately. That story could still be an interesting and drawn out process.
@Tysard
@Tysard Жыл бұрын
@@KRWNetwork That is true but I feel like it would lower the stakes of having large communities. If you've got a massive amount of people living together and there is no cure then there's always a risk of just one person dying and causing an outbreak, resetting everything whereas if everyone is vaccinated then there's essentially no risk of something like that happening. The persuit of a cure does seem like a decent story and would be a nice hopeful way of ending the franchise possibly with a climactic finale. I just worry that they'll introduce a cure then drag it out for as long as possible until the series is completely miled dry. Like imagine a cure is found, all the living get vaccinated so they no longer turn when they die. Now all they have to do is wait for the walkers to degrade and rebuild society. That's it, decent hopeful ending. But continuing that with the way the world has been set up so far would make for a boring show and AMC wants to continue moving forward so a new walker variant is introduced and these variants don't degrade. So now the living have to deal with the remaining walkers in the world but getting bit means nothing to the vaccinated which makes the dead even less of a threat so they keep on making more spin offs with new vatiants that do new stuff just to spice things up. It sounds pretty cool at first but fast forward to 2035, the series is still going and we're 6 seasons into spin off where there's super powered flying zombie sharks and every one of the original characters are dead and no one even knows whats going on. I dunno, I just feel like the threat of infection is a core part of the series and if there is a cure, that should just be where it all ends. That's just my opinion though and I'm not a writer or any kind of expert in storytelling. I just want to see the franchise do well and not go off the rails by turning into a serious version of ZNation.
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork Жыл бұрын
I don't think that would ever happen. Personally, I enjoy the idea of stretching out the cure storyline for a while (4-5 years). End it with our main characters being still important to that story and then you can spin-off into other directions. It doesn't have to be a zero sum game after the cure is found.
@jayceeanderson9926
@jayceeanderson9926 Жыл бұрын
My theories: the voice in the helicopter during season finale is strand from fear. Daryl went to the CRM to get to France. They confirmed that the CRM is in Pennsylvania which is very close to New York where dead city will be based. My theory is all the main characters from the main show and possibly fear will meet up at the CRM, Maggie will talk to Daryl about continuing to travel which is how he ends up in France. Looking for a better future. Maggie and negan will take Rick and michonne home to reunite with their kids at the common wealth. Dead city has been confirmed to be 6 episodes as well but I know it’s based a little in the future so none of them can be confirmed. All just theories but I hope that I’m right even tho I’m probably way off😂
@jayceeanderson9926
@jayceeanderson9926 Жыл бұрын
Also Norman reedus confirmed that there will be familiar faces as well as new characters in his show
@MCat360
@MCat360 Жыл бұрын
I was fine with the introduction of Alexandria. Once Negan and the Saviors came onto the scene I pretty much checked out. The show was violent enough. When they introduced all these other communities it just got boring and a bit silly. There are WAY too many characters on the show and most of them I don’t care about. Some of the characters are just so over the top that I can’t take them seriously. Honestly, after a while it seemed like the show runners were just constantly trying to subvert the expectations and hopes of the viewers to the point where watching the show wasn’t fun anymore. After a while the show turned into one disappointing episode after another until I just couldn’t tune in anymore.
@Ytx_Gaming
@Ytx_Gaming 11 ай бұрын
Sir can you help me i have completed the walking dead all seasons what should i watch after this?and in which i can see rick after this season?
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork 11 ай бұрын
Rick won't show up until his spinoff.
@HA5HGrimes
@HA5HGrimes 11 ай бұрын
I recommend fear the walking dead, the first 3 seasons will reminds you of that OG twd feeling
@Ytx_Gaming
@Ytx_Gaming 11 ай бұрын
@@HA5HGrimes but in our country amc is not available.
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork 11 ай бұрын
How do you watch it?
@jgamats
@jgamats Жыл бұрын
Falling Apart or not, TWD is my favorite.
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork Жыл бұрын
Truth.
@DTT240991
@DTT240991 Жыл бұрын
I would personally have had the Richonne series air as specials between the other spin off series’. So 5 or 6 90 minute episodes airing at key periods over the next 2 years.
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork Жыл бұрын
That is a much better idea, in my opinion.
@ezlmonqzy9650
@ezlmonqzy9650 Жыл бұрын
5:26 never gets old where you get this clip mate
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork Жыл бұрын
Hahaha
@Granddaddysoul518
@Granddaddysoul518 Жыл бұрын
They are tanking the walking dead franchise show by show . If they want to save it they need new writers and someone else besides amc producing it cause they honestly suck imo
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork Жыл бұрын
This is certainly true, in some ways.
@gilly5809
@gilly5809 Жыл бұрын
I would have so much more preferred the main show to continue rather than splitting everyone up.
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork Жыл бұрын
Idk. I kind of wanted the main show to continue, but I thought they might spinoff characters into different directions for a season or two...but in such a way where they could still interact with each other.
@archersterling8707
@archersterling8707 5 ай бұрын
I always thought the series should have ended similar to the BOOK World War Z and where it began outside Atlanta. The characters have to fall back to the old campsite where Shane says they should have stayed and waited for the military and then just out of no where the military shows up and says they stand relieved.
@stevenfolden9636
@stevenfolden9636 Жыл бұрын
Glad to see this video popping off
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork Жыл бұрын
Thanks Steven!
@nivaneh1010
@nivaneh1010 Жыл бұрын
$$$ speaks the loudest
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork Жыл бұрын
That's true.
@johncap6495
@johncap6495 Жыл бұрын
Here's another thing. I know some people disliked Karl. You already went into detail about Judith🤣, but how about RJ???!?! I never ever talk about the actors performance. I usually say why I like a character or not. But he needs to be told how he should be acting. When herds of walkers are behind him or they are running from bad guys...RJs facial expressions why they run ( towards the camera BTW) 😁☺️😊🙂like am I only person noticing this? Then when he asks about the brave man when he should be smiling he's like 😞🥺 and thank the Lord they cut the scene off with the next generation asking for survivors. We went from badasses like Rick,Darryl and Shane to RJ 🤠 awful casting. It should been a matured Chandler Riggs with a eye patch looking all grimey and badass like Darryl.
@pasinduweerawardhana2168
@pasinduweerawardhana2168 Жыл бұрын
Have you seen Chandler recently, he kinda resembles Andrew Lincoln a bit lol. Either that or I just miss Rick & Carl so much idk
@hinokamiky1161
@hinokamiky1161 Жыл бұрын
why so much heat for a toddler 😆😂
@westsidefucku8853
@westsidefucku8853 Жыл бұрын
Rj is just there we really don’t know to much about well besides the obvious
@angelinaoliver5587
@angelinaoliver5587 Жыл бұрын
No you just have a wayyyy deep rooted issue and it’s not the kid smh
@johncap6495
@johncap6495 Жыл бұрын
@@hinokamiky1161 not hate for toddler just saying his actions don’t fit what is happening.
@davidbowman5530
@davidbowman5530 Жыл бұрын
It's just getting to a breaking point where we get to finally have stories ending for characters that we love snd hopefully new stories for the ones survived at the end of the main series. All I know is the one the we can agree on and that is kill all the walkers. New and old zombies will be coming soon..
@Charlesyo_
@Charlesyo_ Жыл бұрын
Great video man seriously
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@brianachim2670
@brianachim2670 Жыл бұрын
Lol AMC hasn’t even started the next phase of this “Avengers Infinity War thing” and it’s already falling apart.😂
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork Жыл бұрын
Lol
@brianachim2670
@brianachim2670 Жыл бұрын
@@KRWNetwork They should just give the franchise a good and satisfying ending because everything else they do is becoming garbage. Main show ended, World Beyond ended, Tales was canceled, Fear is pretty much getting canceled and I doubt Naggie and Daryl in France will last long.
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork Жыл бұрын
I'm excited to see the new shows. My only issue is... If they are going to continue to expand with the same characters, they SHOULD give them a bigger ending than just staying alive.
@brianachim2670
@brianachim2670 Жыл бұрын
@@KRWNetwork Yeah like facing against the CRM
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@scottieman2
@scottieman2 Жыл бұрын
They should just stop. Too many shows and spin-offs.
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork Жыл бұрын
I mean, I'm still excited.
@scottieman2
@scottieman2 Жыл бұрын
@@KRWNetwork I'll probably watch a few episodes see if it's good but I feel like there's too many.
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork Жыл бұрын
Luckily, they aren't 10+ episodes each.
@scottieman2
@scottieman2 Жыл бұрын
@@KRWNetwork that's why I think season one is the best because the six episodes. Doesn't take Rick three-and-a-half seasons to find his family.
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork Жыл бұрын
Yeah, they got the pacing down in that season. I'll be interested if they can do that here... going from 16 to 6. Obviously, the new show runners is a good thing for that.
@TEEANVEE
@TEEANVEE Жыл бұрын
Yes agents of shield is underrated as hell! Should have ended at the season before the last tho
@impressiveprogressive7343
@impressiveprogressive7343 Жыл бұрын
These shows may run a bit longer if they stay true to the stories that created their popularity in the first place. Supernatural suffered the same fate, started off great then turned into a grittier version of "Charmed" meets "Twilight" with the additions of Angels and Demons and even the "King of Hell and "God" himself. Just got a bit to carried away. TWD done the same thing, but they killed off their strong interesting characters and replaced them weaker less interesting characters like Magna and the music guy and a couple more. Connie is a strong charachter, she adds depth to "survivor" end of it being non- hearing.it makes her appear more vulnerable. The other thing is where is all the military hardware? If I was in a Zombie apocalypse I believe I would definitely try to locate a military supply cache. That would be extremely high on my list of things to do, but they never do in the show.
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork Жыл бұрын
I would do the same. You have to imagine that the CRM has a lot of that. Maybe Padre?
@peyton6466
@peyton6466 Жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ died on the CROSS FOR YOUR SINS REPENT OF YOUR SINS AND PRAY TO GOD FOR FORGIVENESS GOD AND JESUS CHRIST LOVE YOU NEVER FORGET THIS❤❤❤
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork Жыл бұрын
K
@xdabeast6002
@xdabeast6002 7 ай бұрын
The title to this video didnt age well....
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork 7 ай бұрын
I think it aged pretty gracefully. Considering the main point of the video is that... despite the quality, the overall purpose of the continuation is muddy and not necessary. The franchise isn't trying to connect. It isn't trying to tell a bigger story. That's the problem. Literally the entire point of the video...
@InitialAA
@InitialAA Ай бұрын
After TOWL, I think it did. I'm gonna keep watching, but just to put something on the TV, not necessarily for entertainment
@sallad2645
@sallad2645 Жыл бұрын
Man I wonder where the walking dead would be if HBO had picked it up instead of AMC.
@jasonw8665
@jasonw8665 Жыл бұрын
The sad truth is that I don’t have faith in these showrunners to create a satisfying story beyond the source material. It’s game of thrones all over again. Andrew and Danai left the show because they didn’t want to do it anymore. They’re only coming back very briefly to put a final nail in the coffins of their characters. They should’ve got everyone together in one main show for 24 episodes to finish out all the different shows characters in one epic finale. But because amc couldn’t help themselves, they lost half the main characters for varying reasons (contract disputes, show fatigue, shooting locations too far from home) and split the remaining characters into different spinoffs. They missed the perfect opportunity they had for an epic and satisfying conclusion in favor of milking a completely drained franchise for however many more years they attempt to kid themselves into believing it isn’t over yet. Some years from now, we’ll get a watered down version of the ending we should’ve gotten in season 10 or 11, with whatever characters are still left. This is the true definition of what it looks like when you DON’T stick the landing..
@joshsmith6043
@joshsmith6043 8 ай бұрын
It fell apart the instant Rick left.
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork 8 ай бұрын
Could you elaborate on what woke with TWD? Certainly there is "representation but does that literally ruin it for you?
@JoaoVictor-rg5ix
@JoaoVictor-rg5ix 5 ай бұрын
Bro. I just want everything to end already. Goddamm it! This show future died when Carl died and when Rick left. It started with both of them, and should have ended with both of Them! Carl should have been the new protag leading the others, like the comics. And even having his own spinoff or something.
@johncap6495
@johncap6495 Жыл бұрын
Part 2 of the show discussion. They were shocked when they were cancelled then made spinoffs.well they got material to go up to 25 seasons without the comics. So now breaking things up into spinoffs. Cancels out the criticism of how the show will show Rick for 3 episodes then in episode 4/5 it will focus on Darryl but not show Rick for example. People complained for years about that. Now that problem is eliminated. Also for the performers themselves, they do not have a contractual agreement to be stuck on the same project an entire year at time. Now they have freedom to return to the series and do other projects
@KRWNetwork
@KRWNetwork Жыл бұрын
I think Gimple's comments about 25 seasons were a bit of a joke. With that being said, I agree that they pivoted and expanded their ideas due to the cancellation. My hope was that the show would evolve into something more unique or focused as time went on...even if it was just rebuilding the world (like the bridge arc in Season 9), but it keeps falling into its own patterns. The spin-offs, and the way they are discussing them, seem to suggest more of the same.
@johncap6495
@johncap6495 Жыл бұрын
@@KRWNetwork all entertainment is falling apart anymore. After everything with DC that just happened. All the characters through the years getting revamped for woke identity politics. And this Rick storyline is ruined if it's only 6 episodes. But great channel here
@VeaFlea
@VeaFlea 7 ай бұрын
The formula was doomed beyond telling a tight and relatively short story, thats why the comics ended. Like of course the survivors are gonna try to make safe zones and try to return to some form of normal life. Once you have food, shelter, and a means to defend yourself theres literally no reason to go out and take unnecessary risks
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