The Way Forward Begins with Faith [Featuring John DeBerry and Brandon Tatum]

"In a culture that’s determined to create hatred and division, you have both used your voices, your lives, and your strength to bring cooperation, unity, and respect,” Pastor Allen told John DeBerry and Brandon Tatum in this podcast, where they talk about race, politics, family, gender confusion, and standing for truth. DeBerry represented the 90th House District of Tennessee from 1995 to 2020 and now acts as the senior advisor to Governor Bill Lee. He shares stories about growing up during the era of segregation and offers a powerful perspective on the situations we’re facing today. Tatum, the host of The Officer Tatum Show, provides candid observations on racism, forgiveness, and the important role our faith plays in unifying people.
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It’s up to us to bring God’s truth back into our culture. It may feel like an impossible assignment, but there’s much we can do. Join Pastor Allen Jackson as he discusses today’s issues from a biblical perspective. Find thought-provoking insight from Pastor Allen and his guests, equipping you to lead with your faith in your home, your school, your community, and wherever God takes you.
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[@AllenJacksonMinistries]

"We are overcomers in Christ ... You cannot live a life of success and prosperity if you are constantly viewing yourself as a victim." - Brandon Tatum

[@ellaineniland134]

What great men!

[@briansmart2045]

BRILLIANT 🇦🇺

[@upsdbardave]

Wow!! What a great conversation of truth! Thank you men! May your tribe increase !

[@PoemPictureDreamForest]

Amen and Amen and Amen! 🙏🙏🙏

[@patrowland2388]

Clear, bold, respectful. Thank you!

[@richardbennaugh6311]

Amen Brothers

[@yvonnekennedy6105]

OUTSTANDING CONVERSATION 🙏🏻🙏🏻❤️👍🏻

[@susanabrams790]

Great conversation, gentlemen! Thank you.

[@debbieleblanc3600]

Love hearing the truth🙏

[@ellaRod51128]

John DeBerry what a man ❤. God bless him very wise man!

[@spears5454]

This is great. Truth gentlemen thank you

[@MrsRebekah45]

Great message!!

[@sandylong1529]

Thank you young man! You are a light in a dark place!!

[@2595chris]

Americans by Birth have a lot to learn from American Choice! Thank you sir! That touches my heart! I cried when I got that paper telling me that I am now American citizen! I can still remember like it was yesterday!!! Thank you Pastor Allen for bringing these great men! The Bible defines who I am, Not the government! 🙏🩸🔥🤲❤️

[@sandylong1529]

I live in Memphis & I especially loved hearing from Mr. DeBerry! I did not know thar he had been decertified. I loved his uprightness & his clarity! I love the “heterophobic” story! I will use that!

[@paulhigh8391]

Thank you pastor Allen for having both of these gentleman on your podcast. Godly Men it is time to step up and follow what the Bible models for us to be. To help further the Kingdom and glorify the Father.

[@hollyhayes1738]

Thank you for speaking the truth

[@margaretjenkins7175]

Remarkable! Thank you for sharing.

[@roxaneestrella4455]

Thank you pastor for interviewing these two wonderful Godly men, I learned a lot from them and I felt very encouraged🙏🙏

[@ellaRod51128]

I love Officer Tatum ❤. Wish more men were like him! God bless him and his beautiful family ❤ God help us all 🙏

[@aprilbaby0467]

What a great encouragement to see all races sharing the Gospel together. 🙌🏻🙏🏻

[@amardipsingh4181]

Great message brothers ❤

[@matthoffman1655]

Amen God bless you guys

[@SandyandChappy]

The theater of the absurd. This was an excellent and relateable pod cast

[@HelloItsK8]

I have so much respect for these men. Thank you for your boldness. I find peace knowing I will spend eternity surrounded by people like these men, in God’s presence.

[@debbiejohnson7441]

Such a good podcast! Thanks for speaking truth!

[@sandrabotard7687]

Thank you for saying what needs to be said. Calling people racist is a way to distract from real problems. God bless you three men for your courage!

[@terribrown1414]

Amen!!!

[@annhixon1516]

Thank you for sharing Truth!!

[@Valerie-lj7yb]

❤❤❤

[@LHMH93]

Thank you so much for this Pastor Allen. This is so powerful and insightful. I pray and continue to pray that God will embolden all believers to stand up with our voices starting with me, to not be afraid, to speak up for righteousness and godliness. God bless you Pastor.

[@MatthewDavidT]

So good! 🤙🏼

[@sandylong1529]

Parents need to wake up & defend our children

[@BonnieLong-n8r]

Praise the Lord for the life of John DeBerry. I am white, I am 93 years old. I relate to every statement he made today on your podcast. I remember the water fountains, I remember when the black people had to eat in the kitchen of restaurants. God forgive us!! Some of my dearest friends today are black. God is Love. Praying for Our Great Country.

[@SusanNorton-xt3lp]

The church I raised my 3 sons in, which we left, recently declaired that GOD is prochoice... Best to pray for this church now...

[@maryellenflick6963]

@ SusanNorton-xt3l Amen! That is right Susan. Christian’s are Pro-Life not Pro-Choice. We fight for life not death. Lord God help us🙏🏻Open eyes to understanding. In Jesus name amen🙏🏻❤️

[@rosajimenez6592]

Great conversation. The truth is always 👍🏼

[@carolwalmsley4048]

This was THE most refreshing, articulate, God grounded discussion around what’s happening today in the world with regards to identity, racism and destructive left wing politics I have ever heard. Thank you all and God Bless you! 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@ilkadiaz5532]

It was very interesting Podcast of these gentlemen telling the Truth with boldness and courage. My respect to Mr. John DeBerry who saw and suffered races with his family but Jesus Christ did the difference, Glory to God!

[@prucox7278]

2 outstanding men! Thank you for introducing them to me❤

[@Carol-x6d3q]

3 outstanding men of God!

[@brendacrutcher2237]

Amen Mr. DeBerry and Mr. Tatum!

[@merlebigini217]

Three of the finest men discussing the state of our world❤🙏🏽

[@lupemauldin1154]

That was so encouraging thank you so much.. God bless you

[@juliegray7658]

Love these guys!! Brandon’s youtube videos at The Officer Tatum Show are so good.

[@Trump-ix1bh]

MayGod bless you mighty men of faith and carry your voices throughout the world near and far. You are a beacon of light.

[@kimtouchet681]

What a healthy and godly way to be raised!

[@Ps23cm]

Thank the Lord for the truth, wisdom, love and power of the Holy Spirit in the message. May God be praised and lifted high! 🙌❤️🙏

[@robinmarshall1298]

Amen!

[@pamedwards4356]

Courageous men of God. Thank you for truth telling!

[@dianewagner2248]

I respect these men of God! Thank you!

[@greatfulchristian4314]

Ty Pastor Allen, mr deberry and Tatum. Our society sure does need The Lord and Savior Jesus.

[@giovannanapolitano817]

Thank you for such an enriching and encouraging podcast. Blessings to the three of you and prayers for America

[@sandraward8396]

Thank you for this . God be with you and all your followers Pastor 🙏🏼

[@jeanewhiteside1490]

Let these type of interviews and honest conversation invade every church that named Jesus Christ as Lord and establish resolve in us to follow Him.

[@readinow1163]

❤❤❤AMEN AMEN AMEN ❤❤❤ HALLELUYAH

[@terihall1974]

Thank you, Pastor Allen.

[@jennifertallbear4480]

Wow talk about the Wisdom of these men so good to hear. Nice drink of water! ❤️🙌🏻❤️🙏🙏🙏🙏✝️

[@jennifertallbear4480]

That was so good🙌🏻🙏🙏🙏

[@shelleyackley978]

Thank you Pastor Allen and Mr Tatum and Mr DeBerry. Great conversation

[@MarieTerrell-n7h]

Thank you

[@RobinKazee]

AMEN

[@ShereeHolloman]

Thank God for brave men who aren’t afraid to tell the truth.

[@duckbilledplatypus308]

Very good interview. Ty.

[@karenlandino8461]

Great conversation! Thank you all! God bless you all!

[@patty520]

Integrity plus Christian follower. Wooooow! ❤

[@terribrown1414]

Amen!☝️🙌

[@kathygreer9471]

God bless you John and Tatum you are truly wise Godly men. I thank God for you guys! ❤❤❤❤❤

[@marciarohde3930]

Absolutely Right 👉 Thank you go Pastor Jackson. ❤

[@carolaubin1763]

❤

[@LauraKitts]

Loving the good and sensible talk. Thank God for you!

[@debra2697]

Thank you for keeping TRUTH allive

[@Starofmylifecrexnfe]

pastor allen i love these podcast i enjoy listening and surely my heart is glad knowing these two strong men for the Lord along side with other Godly strong men. who loves Gods words and truth.

[@DanaHarris-dx6qf]

100

[@patty520]

🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗😇

[@Laura_toggsgirls]

What am I looking at in this country?😮

[@terribrown1414]

🥲

[@jackiejune1993]

Let us not forget they were slaves when they were sold to the slave traders then bought to America.

[@sandysmith510]

pastor allen you just said something that the democrats want us to believe. we still have hatred. i have to disagree. i have grown up going to school with black and brown kids. yes i got to know them better in junior high 7 and 8th grades but we didnt hate each other. the democrats love to tell us all the time there is so much hatred. truthfully is there hatred YES but not like what they think. i see the hatred towards Christ followers, and people who follow the rules. i welcome Christ in my life and in my home. i welcome whoever wants or needs to come to my home. i am very sorry that there were black people enslaved. but there were white people that were slaves. there were black people selling the slaves. there were white people who ended the slave market. i want to see president trump be allowed to lead this country back to greatness.

[@2595chris]

Americans by Birth have a lot to learn from American Choice! Thank you sir! That touches my heart! I cried when I got that paper telling me that I am now American citizen! I can still remember like it was yesterday!!! Thank you Pastor Allen for bringing these great men! The Bible defines who I am, Not the government! 🙏🩸🔥🤲❤️

[@jessicaw.6321]

Amen

[@janeanretz9764]

Amen!

[@Valerie-lj7yb]

Amen

[@kathygreer9471]

Amen. ❤❤❤❤

[@isaaco8056]

Amen!