The Weber Summit Charcoal Grill (Grilling Center) is a Kamado!

The Weber Summit Charcoal Grill (also known as the Weber Summit Charcoal Grilling Station) is finally on the market after months of waiting. Weber says it's a combination of the Weber Kettle, the Weber Performer, and the Weber Smokey Mountain (or “WSM” as it is commonly called) all in one. I don't think so. I think it’s a kamado style grill.
I’ve owned a lot of kamados including the Komodo Kamado, several Big Green Eggs, Kamado Joe (both the Kamado Joe Big Joe and the Kamado Joe Classic) as well as metal kamados like Akorn Kamado by Chargriller and the Bubba Keg (previously known as Big Steel Keg and now known as the Broil King Keg). They are all great products, by the way, and if you are thinking about getting one, I don’t think you could go wrong with any of them. However, they all have different strengths and weaknesses.
Since making this video, I have actually fired up the Weber Summit Charcoal grill and done a test run. I was expecting the Summit to operate like the metal kamados I have owned before but it didn’t. The Keg and the Akorn are much more efficient but the flip side of that is maintaining temps is not as simple.
However, the Summit felt a lot more like the Big Green Egg XL and Kamado Joe Big Joe. It ran a little hot like all grills do when they are brand new because the vents are not seasoned up, but once the grill settle in, it stayed pretty much where I put it. Also, the heat coming off the grill when you touched it felt more like a ceramic grill than a metal one (meaning, it felt hotter...metal kamados have insulation like an indoor oven.)
Now that was just one test run and there was no wind that day, so we will have to see how it does in future cooks, but it was encouraging to see for the first cook.
Links to Amazon
If you are interested in purchasing any of the products mentioned in this video (and you feel like being awesome) please use these links and Amazon will send me a small referral fee. I’m hoping it’s a monkey…but it’s probably just regular money. But have you ever noticed how close the spelling is between “money” and “monkey”? …just drop in a ‘k’ and money becomes a monkey. However, whether it’s a monkey or normal money, the price of your item is the same as it would be if you arrived at Amazon linklessly. (Is that even a word?)
And another thing, you actually do not even need to buy any of the specific products I’ve linked to. You could actually buy ANYTHING…like socks or something weird. They will still send me a referral fee (or monkey) since you used one of these links to get there. Now just to be clear, it’s not a lot of money… unless you buy REALLY nice socks. (Which you should. Your feet deserve it.) They take you pretty much everywhere you want to go. Except for when you are in your car, of course. You know what you should buy after clicking these links?!? A CAR!?!? Now that would REALLY help my channel.
By the way, I used to hate it when KZbinrs say “help my channel” because I was pretty sure what they really meant was “Cha-Ching, baby!” But the truth is it’s not that much money. But video equipment is expensive and every little bit helps. So get out there and BUY THAT CAR!…if they even sell cars. If not, buy those fancy socks. Your feet with thank you…and so do I!
If you’ve actually read this far, let me know in the comments because I’m pretty sure most people’s eyes glaze over after they saw the “Links to Amazon” phrase.
OK, so here are the links
Weber Kettle amzn.to/1TLO14g
Weber Smokey Mountain amzn.to/1QTvA9h
Weber Performer Deluxe Charcoal Grill amzn.to/1WcLOmo
Char-Griller Akorn (you may be able to get this cheaper at Lowes) amzn.to/1WcLRyN
Broil King 911470 Keg 5000 amzn.to/1TqxNun
The Summit Grill does not appear to be on Amazon yet.

[@chris5942]

This video was a total home run! To borrow a word from one of my other KZbin favorites, AvE, you cut through the marketingwank with the sharpest sword of all. The truth. Thank you again!

[@inthedogghouse86]

Love the amount of effort you put in your vids... keep up the great work

[@David-burrito]

I enjoyed watching this, and I think your humor is just the right touch.

[@BabyBackManiac]

Thank you!

[@luvyesmusici4886]

It is indeed a Kamado ( though my sometime rich neighbor calls it an "Egg"; a Kamado one can easily move in and out of the garage. A cooker that cooked excellent today, xmas day 2020, even though it was in the 30s with snow here, and with the addition of a FireBox 2 Drive I got a couple days ago, I cooked my huge ribeye roast, and didn't have to freeze my ass off to do so. Thanks, once again, Justin, for promoting this all in one cooker/grill/smoker with a work table, and a rack to keep the hot bits, and places to hang not only utensils, but the grates as well. The few people who come down my street love it and are a wee jealous. All I know, it cooks AWESOME!

[@Morgoth2503]

One of the best directed channels on KZbin. Dude you rock, keep BBQing and we'll follow. P.S. ITS A KAMADO!

[@BabyBackManiac]

Thank you, sir! This was one of the hardest videos I've ever done because I was new and there were so many syncing issues. What's funny is people either loved it or hated it. (check out the dislikes). I really appreciate the kind words, Justin

[@lifeisxtc1]

Brilliantly put. I will now look for a Komado to go along with my Masterbuilt Electric Smoker.

[@BabyBackManiac]

Awesome, Gene. Thank you! Justin

[@rswaz]

Great videos, informative and entertaining. Can't wait to see a cook on the Weber Kamado. And yes, I read the entire video description, lol.

[@BabyBackManiac]

+rswaz LOL. 1004 views as of this moment and you are the ONLY one who read it. LOL. Thanks for the comment.

[@davesturdy]

Great vid, very amusing (and informative!)

[@BabyBackManiac]

Hi Dave, Thanks for commenting. I'm glad you like it. This was one of the hardest videos I've ever made and it's funny to me that 76 people have disliked it so I appreciate folks like you that get it. lol. Have a great week.

[@bbq-blues8664]

Just found your channel through T-Roys... Very well executed videos... Nice job! keep them coming!

[@BabyBackManiac]

Thanks, Eric. I really appreciate! Have a great week! Justin

[@NorthTexasBBQAddicts]

hahaha not sure how while i was binge watching all your videos i seemed to of missed a couple.. im fixing that today ha

[@BabyBackManiac]

lol. This is an old one. I learned so much about editing making it.

[@KIRBBQ]

Very well done! Thanks for sharing!

[@BabyBackManiac]

+KIRBBQ Thank you so much. i appreciate it.

[@kennsmith2450]

Thanks to your video and my research, I purchased and love cooking on this thing. The ability to change temperature or the consistency for it to stay the same is amazing. Honestly for what we got its priced appropriately.

[@BabyBackManiac]

I like mine too. I can understand why people feel it is overpriced but I would buy it again in a heart beat. I definitely feel I've gotten my money's worth. Thanks for watching.

[@rosslorenz]

Excellent review. You have convinced me to stay with my performer and pick-up a smokey mountain cooker.

[@BabyBackManiac]

Glad I could help. That's a great combination for the money. If you get a chance to get your hands on a 26.75 kettle at some point in the future, they are really nice for the $. Probably my favorite grill in the world....especially for under $300. Thanks for watching, Ross.

[@David-burrito]

I've watched this video 4 times now, start to finish. I like it. Plus, I'm thinking that maybe if I watch it enough times I'll be convinced that it's worth it. Not yet. GREAT supporting role by your son.

[@BabyBackManiac]

lol. Thanks. I'll tell him.

[@220Rick]

Another great video!! I love how you put it so real and not a sales pitch. Nice looking cooker though.

[@BabyBackManiac]

+Rick Short Thanks Rick. No sales pitches here. I don't really have any reason to do that. I don't get competitive about this type of thing. How's the cooking video coming along?

[@tommywalker742]

Good review, hopefully companies respond to this type of constructive criticism and start calling their products just what they are. Thanks for sharing!

[@BabyBackManiac]

My pleasure, Tommy! Thank you for watching.

[@SmokeyGoodness]

Outstanding video! Man, I am impressed! Oh, and the Summit is nice, too. heh heh.

[@BabyBackManiac]

+SmokeyGoodness Thank you, sir. This one was a lot of fun but a lot of work. I need a brain break. lol. Have a great weekend.

[@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ]

Awesome as always!

[@BabyBackManiac]

+Tom Horsman Thanks man! I really appreciate it!

[@nictempleton]

You're making great videos, keep it up!

[@BabyBackManiac]

+Nic Templeton Thanks Nic. I really appreciate the comment! Have a great rest of the week.

[@tpt213]

hahah funny.. luv it... its does make sence... p.s im diggin ur zack morris 90s hair. lol

[@BabyBackManiac]

+tpt213 lol. Thanks for watching and commenting. Gotta run...meeting Screech and Slater down at the Max. ;-)

[@PITMASTERX]

Love your videos bro

[@BabyBackManiac]

+Pitmaster X Thank you, sir. I really appreciate it.

[@laceyp3320]

can't wait to see you make something on that Grill .

[@BabyBackManiac]

It's coming. Working on a brisket cook video as well speak. Thanks for watching.

[@4fastdrs]

GREAT WORK!!!

[@BabyBackManiac]

Thanks Michael. I appreciate it.

[@phillipschlueter5251]

Very funny !! I like the Video so much. Greetings from Germany 😊

[@BabyBackManiac]

Thanks Phillip! I'm really glad you like it! Justin

[@baronqualls1471]

Great info on the Summit. Subscribed.

[@BabyBackManiac]

Thanks, Baron! Really excited to have you on board. I've got a new video about the summit coming out soon. I think you will like it. Justin

[@jokermann77]

Very Entertaining!

[@nathanielvilla671]

Awesome Review! Very entertaining yet informative. Suscribed 😊

[@BabyBackManiac]

Thanks man! Glad to have you!

[@sideshowtink]

LOL That was FUN!

[@BabyBackManiac]

Glad you liked it! Justin

[@mrteentitan]

Very funny!! And very logical. I sell this grill at my hardware store and the price is very difficult to get over for customers. Haven't sold one since they've been released.

[@BabyBackManiac]

I can understand that. It's pricy. To be honest, I'd like to see them knock about $500 off the price. Having said that, I'd buy it again in a second now that I have it and can see what it can do. I just think that nobody is going to take the chance on it unless they bring the price down. Thanks for the comment, Adam. I appreciate it.

[@mrteentitan]

+Baby Back Maniac I agree on the price suggestion. How would you compare the moisture content of the food versus a ceramic kamado type?

[@BabyBackManiac]

It's hard to answer that without having two identical briskets side by side under the exact same conditions...having said that, the brisket video I uploaded last week was one of the best I've ever done. I don't think one has a clear advantage over the other. Porcelain coated vs ceramic is kind of the same. And the efficiency is in the same ball park which means air flow is pretty similar. The main thing I like better about the Big Green Egg is the fact that it's a Big Green Egg (branding, community, accessories, etc.) The main thing I like better about the Weber is the conveniences. Easy ash clean out, storage (for charcoal, heat deflector, and other stuff in the storage basket and on the bottom rack), built in lighter and side table. If you think about it, that's all stuff that everybody has around there grill, but with the Summit you get it one small footprint which is nice. There are no wrong choices here.

[@mrteentitan]

+Baby Back Maniac . Good to know! Thank you so much.

[@rxonmymind8362]

Aaaaaand... THAT folks is why I went with a 24' Kamado ceramic grill for $600. Another $1400 buys almost another Big Kamado Joe at the same place. Definitely a Joe Classic or another mini Kamado egg travel size for camping. Another $1400 can buy a lot of BBQ hardware. Don't need no stink'n cart. I have an island on my patio and a table nearby so setting stuff on is covered. Great review 👍

[@SteenSmokeHouse]

That was fun Justin.

[@BabyBackManiac]

Thanks man. People either loved or hated this one. lol. Justin

[@AussieAngeS]

Great video and hi from Aussieland :)

[@BabyBackManiac]

+FitAnge S Thank you so much and hi back! :-)

[@larrywebster]

New Sub, Great video! I have a Weber Summit 640 that's 15 years old and still looks and runs great. I love Weber, and I had been looking at a performer to add to the stable. After seeing this launch I am considering one over the performer. I agree the price is high, but they last and just work, so they justify themselves. I was hoping it would have been a pellet grill, as that would have been something new for Weber, but a Kamado style is something I have never had or used, and I have looked at the BGE and others including the Komodo brand or as I call them "Pieces of Art"... :) with curiosity.

[@BabyBackManiac]

+Larry Webster (Mr Ldogg) Hi Larry. I've got a komodo kamado. (Check out my first video.) The KK is a piece of art but don't let that fool you. It's built to last forever. I'll do some more videos featuring it in the future once I get to feeling better. Thanks for stopping by.

[@Dmrdecs]

Love it. Thraping wallets in USA like they thrape us in the Old Dart.

[@BEERNBBQBYLARRY]

Nice video. I wish I had that amount of energy & patience to do all of that outlining, staging, and editing on my videos. LOL

[@BabyBackManiac]

+BEER-N-BBQ by Larry Thanks Larry. I think people would be surprised if they learned how long it takes to pull something like that off. I'm glad somebody understands. :-)

[@georgevranas498]

Your videos are very informative and fun to watch. Looks like your whole family is involved too! Do you think a Weber 26 inch kettle (with some accessories) could compare to this beast for most smokes? For as impressive as it looks and performs in your videos, I can't justify paying that price.

[@BabyBackManiac]

Hi George, I totally understand. I love the Summit more than I thought I would, but the 26.75 is a MUCH better value for the money...and it's bigger too. The Summit is a little more versatile and has more conveniences, but the 26.75 is the best bang for the buck in the whole Weber lineup. You can cook anything in it and I'm certain you'll be happy with it. By the way, in the next couple videos I'm going to do a video with both the Summit and the 26.75...at least that is my current plan. I think you'll enjoy it.

[@georgevranas498]

Looking forward to it.

[@racgenwever2613]

You are one of the most entertaining "BBQ-youtubers" I have seen. And you have great taste for equipment. Wondering what you're job is: marketing?

[@BabyBackManiac]

+racgen weber Hi Racgen! Thank you so much for the nice comment. It was a lot of fun to make. I actually do not work in marketing, but I do find it interesting. Thanks again for the nice words...you made my day.

[@johnwatz4955]

Great video, I got a kick out of it. Video is 5 years old so I’d like to ask what you think of it now??? Or compared to the ceramic Kamado shown for a few seconds in this video. Thanks 🙏🏽 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[@lbUdDAHl]

Just subcribed to your channel. Very funny and creative but need more videos!! =)

[@BabyBackManiac]

Thanks, Jimmy, I appreciate it!...and I know. lol. Justin

[@Mntlvr2011]

great video

[@BabyBackManiac]

Thanks Mike. I appreciate it. Have a great day and thanks for watching.

[@stefanstrandberg2600]

Hey, I got to say that I really enjoy your videos! When will you continue the Komodo Kamado series? The Weber is nice but the Komodo Kamado is my dream.. :)

[@BabyBackManiac]

+Stefan Strandberg Hey Stefan, that is such a fair question. I have 2 more videos in mind for the Summit for sure and then I intend to alternate with stuff on the KK. I wish it didn't take so long to make them. Hopefully it will get easier with time. (I'm still new to this.) Thanks for asking.

[@JohnnyJJCoolC]

Well said mate

[@BabyBackManiac]

+John Croxford Thanks John. I appreciate it.

[@johns6481]

Do you anticipate on the WSCG to last a long long time? Thinking of getting rid of my 18” primo and upgrading to this. Want to make sure it is a “grill of a lifetime”. Or at least a couple decades!

[@Moondoggy1941]

Nice video, I almost turned off on the car part but I am glad I watched the whole video. I guess I could buy a Performer and a Komodo Joe for same money. Not sure still thinking.

[@BabyBackManiac]

+jim carson Or just the kamado joe for even less money. Jim, I like this smoker a lot, and if it pans out it will be worth the money to me...but there are a lot of fantastic options out there and that's great for us as consumers.

[@dmzhockey94]

Do the Weber 22.5 cooking grates fit in this

[@HeavyMetalBarBQue]

Hey Bro!… Like Your style! Love Your editing techniques! I knew You were a Mac! Forget the BBQ stuff for now…… what's the mac editing program you're using? By the way…….. are You sure it's a Kamado?!?!? :-) \m/ \m/

[@BabyBackManiac]

+Heavy Metal Bar-B-Que lol. Yeah, pretty sure. I use Final Cut Pro. To be honest, I am a total noob at this stuff and had I known a little more when I started this channel in January, I probably would have gotten something easier to figure out because the learning curve for me was really steep. Having said that, now that I'm a little bit more up to speed and can see everything it's capable of, I'm glad I have it. They give you a month long trial for free if you want to look into it.

[@HeavyMetalBarBQue]

+Baby Back Maniac Hey Bro!….. appreciate what You're doing and how You do it. Thanks for the heads up on the FCP…… I may look into it just to see what it's about. I'm just using the IMovie…. it's quick and easy for the crap I'm putting out. LLLL I see new and creative ideas coming from You in the future. I hope YT is ready for You! Rock On!!!!! \m/ \m/

[@BabyBackManiac]

You may be the most encouraging KZbin commenter in the world. Thank you so much. FCP is great. It's a much more robust version of iMovie. You'll feel more at home than I did when I started since you know how to use iMovie. It's great that they let you try it out because you are not on the hook if you decide you don't need those features.

[@BrianCartwright70]

a hoot,,,,,Can't believe you haven't fired it up though,,,,lol. I would love one if you want to give it to me,,,,but don't see one in my future.

[@BabyBackManiac]

+Brian Cartwright Thanks Brian. I finally fired it up last night. I could not take it any longer.

[@jaredmeit6127]

What's with all the dislikes? This was great!

[@BabyBackManiac]

Thanks Jared. I have no idea. Just one of the joys of being a youtuber. Here is the irony. I'll write it in "headline form" because It's almost like a story from "The Onion." "Inexperienced youtube creator with no knowledge in video editing publishes video on channel nobody was watching and gets 45,000 views in a year...Anonymous commenters tell him he's 'doing it wrong'." LOL. You can't make this stuff up. Thanks for the kind words, Jared. Justin

[@rxonmymind8362]

*Cough* Marketing *Cough* department * Cough*

[@jhitt79]

You are hilarious!

[@BabyBackManiac]

Thank you.

[@icychap]

Awesome video, loved it. What's the circus-y music called?

[@BabyBackManiac]

Thanks for watching! The song is called Gaslamp Fireworks, I believe. Pretty sure I got it off youtube.

[@icychap]

Got it. Gaslamp Funworks. Thanks!

[@BabyBackManiac]

Funworks ...yeah, that's it. lol. whoops.

[@MrMegaFredZeppelin]

Great video :-) Very entertaining :-) A "BIG" thumbs up :-) Have a great weekend :-) ROCK ON!!!!!!!

[@BabyBackManiac]

+MrMegaFredZeppelin Thanks Fred. I really appreciate it. You too!

[@MrMegaFredZeppelin]

You are very welcome :-) ROCK ON!!!!!!!

[@lazydan22]

I like watching your videos a lot. You tested the new chargrill kamando yet

[@BabyBackManiac]

Yep! Made a bunch of videos about it too. Check them out if you get some time. Thanks, Daniel! Justin

[@lazydan22]

Baby Back Maniac went to look at the Akron and the guy said to look at the new char broil kamander instead

[@BabyBackManiac]

Did you? What do you think?

[@jeber21]

Great video man! Where is the cook vidoes!?!? hehe. Another thing it can't do that my WSM can do is hang sausage to smoke. I still want one though! I bet it holds temps like a boss.

[@BabyBackManiac]

+Jeremiah Johnson That's true about hanging sausage...Have you ever hung ribs over the coals PBC style in your WSM? Best ribs I've ever had.

[@jeber21]

Haven't yet. Was thinking about getting the sausage hanger for that. Or a diy solution.

[@BabyBackManiac]

I got the fish hanger thing from Weber. It's perfect for the job but the actually hooks aren't strong enough so I bought some SS meat hooks from Pit Barrel Cooker directly. It's works like a charm.

[@DIRTYBIZKIT961]

Are you meaning directly over the coals without the water pan?

[@keithclark4645]

Justin, I could not tell from the vid but how many stitches did you get from your assembly injury?

[@BabyBackManiac]

LOL. none. The bandaid/fake hospital visit fixed me right up. lol

[@M_Ladd]

Lol, did you really think Weber would say, hey people we built a kamado now come and buy it!

[@BabyBackManiac]

no, I thought the execs at Weber would watch this video and change the name to Kamado the next iteration of the grill. crazy, huh?

[@XiangUK]

Watching this video in 2020 where this product is now called a Summit Kamado S6. Someone at Weber must have watched this video 🤣

[@jasonsulewski8215]

Definitely would call that a marketing failure by Weber

[@JTM8863]

Hi, can you get me a tip? I'm using a Weber WSM Smoker a Weber 57cm Kettle and an Weber Genesis Gas Grill and now I'm looking for an Kamado. What do you think is the best option a Weber summit Charcoal or an Big Green Egg? Thank you for your answer and best greetings from Switzerland Mark

[@BabyBackManiac]

Hey Mark, As luck would have it, I actually did a video where I talked about that. Enjoy! kzbin.info/www/bejne/kKG4nICIqrx4o9E&lc=z13hef1z2ny0h1xv323rz55hsvf3sjbwo04

[@jadams0014]

hahahaha, good video

[@preputnick]

Fast forward 5 years....Weber is calling it a Kamado

[@mdorton19]

Plano Texas in the house

[@BabyBackManiac]

Howdy, neighbor!

[@marwanrazzouk]

Lol nice video

[@BabyBackManiac]

Thanks Marwan! I appreciate you watching!

[@Two_Bit_Smoke]

Can you do a high temperature “clean burn” on this Kamado like the ceramic Kamados!?! Have you tried it?

[@BabyBackManiac]

Yes, it works great. By the way, most ceramic companies don't recommend that anymore but they don't tell you that till after you buy it. It causes microfractures and is hard on the firebox/thermometers and they usually give you "no getting around the laws of physics" line. With that said, this one handles it as well as any other kamado I've owned.

[@Two_Bit_Smoke]

@@BabyBackManiac, thanks for the detailed reply!! Do you think the clean burn will work on the SNS grills kettle as well!?!

[@BabyBackManiac]

@@Two_Bit_Smoke Unless something has changed, the SNS materials (metal/ceramic) used are literally the best you can get in this class of cooker. Burn off's still creates wear and tear on gaskets/therms but basically anything any other ceramic kamado can take, the SnS should be able to endure. With that said, I would double check with them before you make any purchase. Their customer service is really good and they are nice people. Tell them I said hi. lol

[@anthonychappell4746]

Nice video. So when you use the kamado instead of your weber? They both seem very expensive.

[@BabyBackManiac]

Thanks for watching, Anthony. Right now the Kamado is on vacation. I do plan on making more videos about it in the future though.

[@anthonychappell4746]

Thanks for the response, but i guess my question was based on situationally, when to use which grill. For instance, Is the Kamado better for smoking things and the weber more suited for cooking things at higher temps? Just curious and wanted your incite being that you have both.

[@BabyBackManiac]

Oh, sorry. I misunderstood. The Weber and Kamado are both the same type of cooker. The fire is further from the main grate on the Komodo Kamado and the Komodo Kamado is way more efficient and premium build quality. The Weber has more convenient features and a little bit better ergonomics. So to answer your question, when cooking like a steak or burger where I want to sear the outside and possible move to the indirect side to finish, I prefer the Weber. (The kamado has a searing grate and split fire basket for this purpose but I like the Weber better because the KK searing grate is smaller...especially when split in half. The komodo is definitely better for pizza due to the way the top vent is towards the back forcing the heat to roll over the top of the pizza more evenly. Other than that, they cook about the same.

[@anthonychappell4746]

+Baby Back Maniac ok thanks

[@StevePuppe]

It looks like Weber finally agrees with you. I hope you got some naming royalties.

[@BabyBackManiac]

Lol. You notice that too, huh? This video takes me back, man. I had NOBODY watching at this point and never expected to. This vid was just a fun family project where we ran all over town getting these clips. If I would have known this many people would see it (and Weber would possibly rename the summit because of it) I probably would have never put it up. lol

[@StevePuppe]

@@BabyBackManiac Still one of my favorite videos and I think it's how I found the channel. As a former ceramic owner you did a great job selling me on the Summit.

[@VictorColeWeddings]

Do you think the slow n sear is worth it with this setup?

[@BabyBackManiac]

Victor Cole I did not think so until I actually used it and now I never cook on it without it unless I just need the extra space. Your mileage may vary of course

[@VictorColeWeddings]

Baby Back Maniac Thank you! Just ordered the craycort grate and the SNS

[@DonCornelius366]

omg. LOL!!!!!

[@BabyBackManiac]

This was one of my first videos. We had fun making it. Thanks for watching.

[@carlosandalucia4660]

Pricewise, I see Summit Charcoal as a 22 inch kettle in a 26 inch kettle, with some engineering. So, it can never make a value $1600. and they must keep in mind that there are lots of cheaper options than Summit.

[@BabyBackManiac]

+Sonradan Gurme Well, ok then! Thanks for the comment! Have a great weekend.

[@JDToonyVizArt]

I miss Elliot's Hardware.

[@jeevesjaheebs3603]

An OK review. I agree the way they marketed it was off. That, the price and the extra grate were the only things you nailed spot on. Kamado's don't need a water bowl. I don't know about the summit, but I've never had to add a water bowl in my egg and I've yet to have any dry BBQ. You also don't need to access the fuel because they run much more efficiently than any of the other grills/smokers. It has more pro's than con's IMO. There's things you can do with a Kamado that you can't with the comparison Weber's an vice versa. If I didn't already have a BGE or if something happens to it, I'd probable pull the trigger on one.

[@BabyBackManiac]

Hi Jeeves, Thanks for your comment. I feel like there is a lot of misunderstanding about this video. Of course it doesn't NEED a water bowl or an access door. I never said it needed water bowl or an access door...I just said it did not have them. The whole point of that sequence was to make the point that it's a kamado and not a WSM. Let me back up. The point of this video as outlined in the title was to show that the Summit is more like a kamado than the previous weber products (which is a fact that wasn't entirely clear at the time I created this) That's it! That's all it was supposed to be about...and I stuck to that theme the entire video. It seems like people were expecting something else out of this video and are disliking it based on an expectation to see something that wasn't the topic of this video. Do you mind telling me how you ran across this video? Maybe that will help explain it. Thanks!

[@jeevesjaheebs3603]

Baby Back Maniac Gottcha. Point taken. I believe I gave you a thumbs up. I don't thumbs down anything unless I feel the person is just trying to be douche. How I got here? I was on the BBQ brethren forum and someone was considering a kamado style cooker. He wanted a comparison between the Summit and a ceramic. Someone posted your vid. I just finished watching the longevity test. 50+ hours. That's pretty impressive. I know it wasn't a scientific test, but I wonder how long it would have lasted if you hadn't kept opening it and stirring the charcoal? Or did you do that because the temp was dropping?

[@BabyBackManiac]

I see. Thanks for explaining that (and for the thumbs up). If you want to see a lot more more about Summit itself, check out the Brisket cook I just posted last week. The first 6 minutes are pretty much all about the Summit. BGE vs Summit. See that's the video I should actually do since I've had both. I could do it pretty even-handedly too though it would probably still end up upsetting everyone. lol. (Spoiler alert: There isn't a clear winner. They are both awesome in different ways so go with your gut. I certainly wouldn't sell a BGE to get one (or vice versa) unless you need it to be portable or are just wanting to try something new.) Yes, after about 14 hours the temps started dropping. Initially I just stirred the coals through the hinged openings and that worked fine. I also could have adjusted the vents on the guru and the lid. However, after the first 24 hours, I realized it would also make more compelling video to take the lid off and let people get a sense of the consumption rate. (At least that was the goal...It was pretty dark in some of those shots.) Truth be told, that video raises way more questions than it answers, but it's impossible to test the hundreds of variables in one video. I picked the most baseline question I could think of (full firebox, Kingsford, completely used up coal, 225 degrees, no food or water in the chamber, temp controller to minimize temp swings). Hopefully somebody else will build on it with lump, higher temps, natural draft, etc.

[@jeevesjaheebs3603]

Cool. I've been watching a few vids this morning. Currently, I see more pro's to the Summit. It's lack of frailty, ease of cleaning are a couple of biggies for me. I'd definitely be interested in your side by side comp. I'll check out the brisket cook. I believe I've subscribed anyhow. It'll probably pop up on my page. Hmm, having to stir would be a con for me. I wonder if it was started conventionally, it would burn more evenly and if it would effect the burn time? Ah well, like you said, maybe someone will do a more extensive test. Till I come into money, I'll just live vicariously through those that have one and keep smokin on the BGE.

[@BabyBackManiac]

There worse things in life than having to smoke on a BGE. :-) Any day that thing is lit is a good day. Good talking to you. Have a great day!

[@5280streetdogs]

would buy a Komado Big Joe way before I'd buy that and I'm a Webber nut

[@BabyBackManiac]

+5280 Street Dogs You should get a KJBJ. They are fantastic. Thanks for the comment.

[@MrJzuz]

How good does it feel that weber now calls it the weber summit kamado?

[@BabyBackManiac]

LOL. I know, right?

[@MrJzuz]

@@BabyBackManiac grilled today the first babyback ribs on my 2 day old summit charcoal (old model). You're totally right it's an awesome grill. Thanks mate!

[@jeffselchow5719]

That was funny. Yes it is expensive, wife says NO!!!! now I'm sad and mad.

[@BabyBackManiac]

lol. I've heard it's better to ask for forgiveness than permission...from several divorced guys. lol. But your mileage may vary. Thanks for watching, Justin

[@rxonmymind8362]

The REAL question is will the Big Joe Kamado firebox "petals" fit inside this Webber. 😁 THEN you can call it a Webber Kamado.

[@heigo1154]

Funny and great, but only point the video made was the price. Summit has qualitys of kettle, performer and SMC + even kamado combined. Kamado holds longer heat, but it cannot be "un-heated" as quickly as Summit(not that u asked).

[@BabyBackManiac]

Hi Hei Go, Did you watch this video? I feel like I hit on every point you made except for the "un-heated" one...which was really not the point. One of the things that is difficult as a youtube creator is viewers come to the video with expectations of what should be in a video despite the fact that it's not the topic the video is about. I have a channel full of videos where I mention the virtues (and cons) of the summit. I can't put all of them in every video. I really hope you take the time to watch some of the rest of my stuff. I think you might enjoy it. Thanks for watching.

[@heigo1154]

Hi, I admit that I wasn't fully consentrating on the video, but I didn't hear any explanation about the SMC or Kamado qualitys explained. Also I haven't yet seen the other videos. I was hoping to find the cons(other than price), because I'm probably going to buy the Summit charcoal. Except if I find something that has more functional qualitys in one product which I doubt.

[@BabyBackManiac]

Hei, Watch the most recent video I posted. It's right up your ally. It's longer and not as edited but I basically give all my thoughts on one cooker options from my experience owning several dozen cookers over the last 10 years.

[@bryantaylor6284]

I see you have lost interest in your summit! Maybe too many grills! Lol I've had mine for a year and have been getting that smoke at the lid seal. I'm getting a temp spike 20 to 30 degree after installing bbq guru. I found the onetouch cleaner is not flush with grill and not closing completely on one blade unless I lift up on it. I think that's my problem! Have you seen any similar issues on yours? Weber is sending me a new gasket and onetouch .

[@BabyBackManiac]

No, I haven't but part of the reason is I have had the problem in the past with kettles and try to prevent it. (basically it's caused by big pieces of charcoal getting lodged in the holes and when you sweep, you bend them. The good new is Weber should send you a replacement fan if you call. It's not a huge issue to swap out but I still baby my kettles to avoid the hassle. They should fix the lid leak too if you ask. They developed a solution.

[@bryantaylor6284]

@@BabyBackManiac thanks for your feedback. I figured that's what happened. I will baby mine for now on I never looked to see how flimsy they are. I think the gasket maybe can be cleaned and start sealing. Didn't want to remove before getting a new gasket. Weber is sending new parts! Good service after you get off hold!

[@Absdrakt]

So is it a kamettle? Kettlelado? - Can't take credit, taken from amazingribs.com when looking at the review hehe.

[@BabyBackManiac]

Lol!

[@__BERSERKER__]

HAHAHA. I got a vision kamado for $250 on clearance. Go to sams club every week starting at halloween. They mark down their prices on mondays. So go monday evenings.

[@BabyBackManiac]

Congratulatoins. Thats great.

[@David-burrito]

Hi Justin, I was curious as to whether the Slow-N-Sear would fit in the Summit, found a video from Adrenaline (no humor, what a drag) where he's using the Slow-N-Sear and the Drip-n-griddle, and I have a couple of questions if you care to comment. He doesn't use the deflector, says it's a "bad design", and puts the water in the drip-n-griddle instead of the reservoir. So my question is, what's the point? If you're gunna use both Adrenaline products, why not just use a kettle and save yourself 1900 bucks. And why not put the water in the reservoir that was designed for that? kzbin.info/www/bejne/qYm5YYOup7-WasU

[@BabyBackManiac]

There is a Slow N Sear specifically designed for the Summit which you can put water in. Dave was showing another way he likes to do it with a different set of products. You should reach out to him and ask him why. He's good at answering questions.

[@seabass22]

Even if it was $1000, I would be thinking long and hard about buying one. $2000 is asinine.

[@BabyBackManiac]

Thanks for the comment. If it was $1000, it would be the deal of century and would own the kamado market in 5 years. Weber isn't going to do that though.

[@PaulKhoe]

👍🏽😂

[@BabyBackManiac]

lol. Thanks Paul. Justin

[@PaulKhoe]

You're welcome! Your presentations are hilarious and to the point.

[@BabyBackManiac]

Thanks Paul.

[@gaurd3]

3:28 I concur with your son

[@BabyBackManiac]

LOL. Yeah, It's a good spot for that.

[@xxkasperxx]

Weber has always overpriced their grills ...and I happily buy them

[@BabyBackManiac]

lol. Me too.

[@magacop5180]

I'm not paying $2K for this shite. Its the principal of it. If anyone wants to sell one i'll buy it though.

[@BabyBackManiac]

I can't tell where you landed on this...whether you bought and canceled your order or not. It's expensive. Like I said in my latest videos the 26 kettle is amazing for the price and that's what most people should get. The Summit is more versatile and easier to use but that comes at a cost. Good luck with your decision, DJ Kevgeez. Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner. I was traveling.

[@salvadorgarcia9108]

Won't it rust over time.

[@BabyBackManiac]

It's porcelain coated...less likely to rust than the metal parts holding together the ceramic cookers. I have this one almost a year and a half and no signs of rust except for the fire grate...which is where they all rust.

[@martylynchian8628]

Whats up my nigga. Wow, that video was kind of all over the place. Anyway, if this does not have ceramic top and walls, its not a Kamado.

[@BabyBackManiac]

I hear what you're saying, and I used to feel that way but I looked into the history of kamados a while back and it changed my opinion. As it turns out the original Kamados would not have even qualified if that was a requirement. They were often made of mud, stone, brick or clay. The only reason we even think of them as being a ceramic is because back in the day (before they got big) big green egg switch their formula to ceramic because clay broke so easily… Which ironically is exactly the reason companies started making metal kamados instead of ceramic ones. You should check out the naked Whiz site if you haven't already. He's got a great article on this.

[@BabyBackManiac]

Oh, and by the way, thanks for the comment.

[@skipunsworth765]

Nice, but not 1,999.00 nice lol

[@BabyBackManiac]

+Skip Unsworth I am hearing that a lot. lol. Thanks for the comment!

[@Ray-gu5kp]

Dude you lost me, changed channel!

[@BabyBackManiac]

Thanks for watching!

[@nevillechapman9761]

I kind of wanted to poo poo this video but fuck no mate. The meat of this review is really useful and interesting. Oh and you're not Weberfied, I take that back........... Stop trying to be Casey Neistat tho, u dont need it fella. Stick to the honesty. It's the best policy......

[@BabyBackManiac]

Thanks for the feedback.

[@edcastilloromo]

the fact that you spent 4 minutes setting up the point, just makes you look foolish to put it kindly, but I guess this was more of a skit, than a serious review

[@BabyBackManiac]

+Eduardo Castillo Mty Thanks for the comment, Eduardo. Everything in that set up (2.5 minutes...not 4) had a purpose leading up to the visual presentation of the point I was trying to make. It created narrative (otherwise the last 4 minutes would have been completely random), established a light-hearted tone which is important when you critique something (so I can call out Weber in a playful way...not as a "hater"), provided some behind the scenes/"entertainment value", and differentiates my style of story telling from an already talented and crowded field of BBQ youtubers. I realize this is different than how a lot of people choose to present information, and I'm sorry you didn't like it (and I'm glad you liked the other video better). That's what makes KZbin awesome. Everybody can do their thing. Have a great week.

[@edcastilloromo]

I responded on your other video...it really helped. It actually helped me to make a purchase decision. Cheers

[@BabyBackManiac]

Glad to hear it.