The Wicked Story Of Pam Hupp

[@mv-id2uj]

Even with a solid alibi, and physical evidence you can still convince a jury that someone did something they didn't do.. That's so terrifying.

[@pumpkinspicekaren3744]

Well the movie "let's go to prison" said it best. A jury is 12 of the dumbest people that the attorneys could find. unfortunately I have been part of that group. And yes we are the dumbest people in that room. The person on trial had a mountain of evidence against him as a predator who liked kids and he still got a mistrial somehow.

[@LWilli65]

The cops, detectives, prosecutors, judge and jury might as well have been a bunch of Jack asses... Oh wait, they were! That just shows you no innocent person in this country will get their day in court. Does the jury not understand the term, "Beyond a responsible doubt"? Shame Shame Shame

[@accuratealloys]

Because it’s not justice. It’s theater.

[@1888.cfc.]

Yup that's the corrupted cops and DA for ye

[@svensplooge9961]

@@pumpkinspicekaren3744 there is a reason they so that as well..people that are uneducated in the justice system. The Justice system doesn't have much justice in it anymore either is the sad part just a bunch of tyrants with a badge and gun running around doing the exact opposite of what the Oath they took describes... the world really is going to hell and nobody gives a shit or is too ignorant to understand what is really happening everywhere

[@mariahmcbride9017]

She killed her own mom, best friend, and a disabled stranger..... It's hard to wrap my head around this type of evil.

[@Raymondgogolf]

Hi Mariah I hope my comment didn't sound as a form of privacy invasion your comment tells of a wonderful woman with a beautiful heart which led me to comment I don't normally write in the comment section but I think you deserve this complement. If you don’t mind can we be friends? Thanks God bless you….🌹🌹🌹🌹

[@FallenAngel9979]

@@Raymondgogolf 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@mayorstanley24]

@@Bodaduchee You’re not even a good troll, that was boring. Try harder or give up.

[@Seemashe]

She is the purest definition of a ‘psycopath’

[@myunknownland9272]

@@Bodaduchee good grief and good luck.

[@WobblesandBean]

Hearing the husband's 911 call broke my heart. 😞 And then for him to be convicted without ANY evidence, _when he had an alibi,_ is INFURIATING.

[@docsnake]

There is absolutely NO WAY whatsoever that anyone could fake that amount of anguish in his voice!

[@Somegirl811]

And Pam is the absolute worst actress ever, in interviews and her 911 call!

[@Yesthatsmyfirstname]

His call versus her call, the stark difference is incredible.

[@anitarichardson2836]

Something else that is infuriating is people writing exactly what happened in the comment section as soon as it's released, I try to ignore them but unfortunately one comment is always shown on the screen. Now I won't bother to watch, pointless. Cheers! 🙄🤦‍♀️

[@Yesthatsmyfirstname]

@@anitarichardson2836 doesn't do that in portrait mode. The comments are literally for commenting, people who cry about "spoilers" in the comments are hilarious.

[@DannyBoy777777]

For those interested, the detective that arrested Russ was arrested in March 2023 for misconduct.

[@MeganVictoriaKearns]

Really? Wow, interesting.

[@p5eudo883]

Arrested? I bet he barely got a slap on the wrist, if even that.

[@GiVeIt2MeBb]

everything about police at that point was insanely unprofessional. no evidence, no other suspect, no proper investigation. and prosecutor and judge were just as bad.

[@theawolfamily4458]

Thank god.

[@rosalynjeffery9510]

​@@theawolfamily4458God*

[@rach818xx]

I can’t imagine the feeling of knowing you’re innocent but everyone is against you and you go to prison. That has to be the worst feeling ever.

[@stevenwagner9912]

Welcome to the legal system. The innocent are imprisoned and the guilty go free.

[@linalicious415]

Yes a literal nightmare 😫

[@jamestew5075]

A good argument to eliminate the death penalty

[@jenniferdilts1350]

It certainly is. Loosing ur kids because of other's lies & actions is the worst. I know from experience.

[@alliec7086]

this is why prisoners need rights. because if someone wants to take your rights away, all they have to do is make you a prisoner - innocent or not. incidents like these make those rights worth having because it could happen to any of us.

[@parentingadabsurdum]

How does someone actually go to trial and get convicted with a rock solid alibi? This seems so bonkers. Poor guy.

[@bonjovirocks24]

Bad lawyer

[@wildflower008]

Corrupt judge, prosecuting attorney, and law enforcement.

[@lucasmarin6600]

Alibi means nothing if they really think u did it...they won't look at is as evidence they will view it as an obstacle to get over...not to. Lear them up...at least at trial that's how they approach it....its disgusting to think that just so they can get a conviction they will disregard any evidence whatsoever that goes against them getting that conviction...how many times have u heard of someone getting freed from jail after finding out they were actually innocent but still took years to get em iut cause the prosecution usually refuses to admit they were wrong...its pathetic..how they can go from explaining and compassion and making a jury understand things to being stubborn to the point where u will knowingly keep an innocent person in jail just to not mess up ur resume`..smh

[@harumskarum3481]

America.

[@slavomirsebesta5491]

same as s. avery

[@NIX5s]

2 million isn’t enough!! That trial was a joke!! Shame on all those on his jury!!

[@WobblesandBean]

@@apaaaa That's the only reason I'm anti death penalty. There are countless people in prison who are innocent.

[@evoluna3056]

@@apaaaa I saw three other cases recently where men were wrongfully convicted and came free after over a decade in prison. And one man who is in prison since the 90s, also innocent but is fighting to get free. Maybe he will die in prison. 😥

[@Survivor58]

I said the same thing especially when you have to pay the attorneys.

[@aquaseahorselove3939]

They pick everyday laypeople for the jury, if you want to know who everyday laypeople are, just read the comment section of most YT channels and you may start to understand how a jury could be so d*mb.

[@Dee-JayW]

I would rather take my chances on the possibility of a decent judge

[@NatashaLovell]

The fact that they literally had no evidence against Russ but still convicted and sentenced him to life is so infuriating

[@foamyone101]

That good old male privilege

[@Daniela-Christianson]

They did have some compelling evidence. Planted by Pam.

[@MelanieWatkins-fv2lp]

It’s terrifying.

[@michelerenem]

@@foamyone101 I can guarantee your ignorant ass that there are also women that are falsely accused, numb nuts.

[@Halfshanks]

Pretty crazy to think that if Pam never killed again Rus would have most likely spent the rest of his life in prison.

[@pameladee]

Thankfully, I’m joking at that word, but her greed did pam in.

[@Mustang1984]

Yep, that disabled guy had to die to free Russ.

[@Paul-qs3nu]

That's why lv never believed in the death sentence, l remember some MP saying unfortunately some innocents might be convicted, when debating about it My thoughts were let the first be his son or daughter

[@akshay9602]

Even crazier to think about how many innocent men are actually in jail right now because of a false allegation.......

[@carollucey111]

perish the thought, poor guy😢

[@blackwalls8126]

The way she describes being attacked in her home sounds like someone talking about what they did on a Sunday.

[@Oona707]

Same with her 911 call. She didn't even bother acting scared 😑

[@GavsterGaime]

@@Oona707 *deadpan* "oh no. I am being attacked. Oh, the humanity. Anyway.."

[@glendabarton45barton48]

The way she yelled "help" was totally unconvincing.

[@xxxxx1705]

@@GavsterGaime azd

[@missxspencer1538]

Hupp: "help. help. Zzzzzzzz.." Operator: "Ma'am?? Hello?!?" Hupp: "Huh? Oh yes, help. help."

[@gex581990]

Her call about her “intruder” was the worst acting I’ve ever heard, just nonchalant “help, help”

[@squirrelcovers6340]

Agreed. It was laughable.

[@ClearOutSamskaras]

A 911 operator (at least in America) is an awful audience to fake an emergency and panicked call to. The deadpan tone of the operators is deadly for a fake call. The fake panic just becomes harder and harder to engage in and starts to appear stupid and ridiculous. Genuine panic on a 911 call just interacts with the calm/deadpan of the operator in a totally different and appropriate way. Hupp may have realized during the call how stupid she sounded but it was too late to abandon her weak deception, she had to try and force credibility by sticking to her script.

[@RockCity1111]

@@ClearOutSamskaras man I paused it thinking I was hearing him taking revenge on this evil thing. Too bad

[@swpo1]

That's what I said too!!

[@AlexanderFort]

Um…help. Help. *yawns* Help. Like…help.

[@violetgypsie]

“Help, help” was so pathetic. Also how calm she was explaining the attempted robbery and taking of her life. I would have been in a puddle on the floor trying to explain that if that actually happened to me.

[@michaelmendillo7513]

😂😂😂😂😂😂✌️

[@myliza700]

Right. 😂 she’s pathetic

[@MsDaniMarie02]

So not convincing

[@marivipalomino6975]

I still cannot believe how they sentenced the husband with all the evidence that he was not even close to the house or that he used the knife or that he was no inheriting any money, he had no motive. And the judge forbidding that Pam be implicated. OMG. I would start a lawsuit against those incompetent investigators, prosecutor and judge.

[@akshay9602]

Imagine if the truth never came out...... She was caught only after the 3rd murder. Now imagine how many innocent men are out there in jail right now because the real truth never came out and everyone believed a woman

[@tundrawomansays694]

@@akshay9602 Unfortunately you’re right. The clearly prejudicial criminal Justice system hand out what is colloquially called a “Pu*** Pass” regularly to females. You don’t need to believe me at all: Look it up yourselves. The inequality between male vs. females in Charges, Convictions and Sentences is appalling.

[@slimebunny5700]

@@akshay9602 honestly this kinda stuff makes me upset we go by believe all victims rather than question them to get to the real truth. Even then people are in general more sympathetic with woman, I've noticed how people treat me in comparison to my male friends and my own bf and it's just so infuriating sometimes that I can't help but call people out on their bias. I wish we could truly be equal without having to put down one gender just to uplift the other.

[@WillSmithAnarchy]

Look this is how they get people in court. They claim you as a defendant and State your guilt as a fact in the courtroom and anything you do or say to prove yourself innocent now looks like you are lying and just trying to get out of trouble because whether you're innocent or or not you still would be trying to get out of trouble and they play a little game and give you a false hope of getting out of trouble and now what are you going to do you going to stand up for yourself and in the meantime you're just digging a hole and making yourself look like you are digging a hole and of course that's how it works and second before the trial starts they decide what evidence is admissible to court on what grounds and they are implicably biased towards the defendant not presenting evidence also you can't prove anything from a jail cell or a hole and block in the back of the courtroom underneath the courthouse when you're in a cell and you're not even allowed to have a pen and paper and then when you get in the courtroom they put a pen and paper in front of you and you can't use it cuz you're in the middle of a court proceeding involving yourself that you need to pay attention to and not for nothing it happens because of police like to tell lies and they think it's a joke because they get paid weather or not they put people in jail or not or also if they are even criminals at all makes no difference because the process is the same for everybody they book you and transport you to a prison facility and they will have you under duress and under the complete control at the threat of violence not to mention incarceration is a form of violence within itself.. now try

[@kayladenette662]

@@akshay9602 um what the hell? how is this a gendered thing for you? do you think men aren’t capable of lying an framing people? weirdo

[@NessaLuv]

Wow, imagine coming home to see your deceased wife and how shocking and horrible that would be and then the cops blaming it on you even with countless evidence proving you not guilty. Heartbreaking 😞

[@WobblesandBean]

Welcome to the "justice" system.

[@elizabethgaspodnetich4322]

Happens every day. It is a shame, but it happens all the time.

[@lylecoglianese1645]

@NessaTao, that’s our great “Just Us” system for you! The only thing the cops, lawyers, judges and corrections people are concerned with are CONVICTIONS - NOT the TRUTH.

[@dizzyupthefool5180]

Incompetent justice system. Awful jury.

[@adolfolerito6744]

@@dizzyupthefool5180 the jury wasn’t really the problem. The real problem was Christina Kunza Mennemeyer, aka the incompetent, awful judge who FORBADE any evidence or accusation whatsoever to be brought against Pamela in Russ’ trial . The jury was forced to act only on carefully selected evidence, which was the real crime here

[@_Pyroon_]

Nothing angers me more than false imprisoning, especially if your wife was murdered and there's obvious evidence to implicate someone else

[@stevenwagner9912]

We have a legal system not a justice system. If lawyers and judges were concerned with the whole truth we would see more justice. I'm not surprised they would not allow all the facts to be presented.

[@akshay9602]

This is the result of #BelieveAllWomen

[@a.b.creator]

Why didn't the police on that night take fingerprints from those knives?

[@ThisIsJ.Nicole]

@@a.b.creator My thoughts exactly. Rus said she was talking about committing suicide which is why he assumed she killed herself. He was hysterical. He saw his wife with slit wrists, he wasn't looking around the room to investigate. So infuriating.

[@savp4945]

And the fact that they didn't even have hard evidences against him and still put him in jail anyway, making me even more angry. Those people should feel ashamed of themselves.

[@nickinunudalby7031]

It’s terrifying that you can get found guilty when people and your phone can verify that you were no where near!

[@Skrulzie]

To be fair there have been recent cases where phones are left deliberately somewhere or turned off to prevent any suspicion. However having several witnesses testify to protect that reason should have been taken seriously.

[@chrissilvester5663]

How the hell can someone go to trial produce a rock solid alibi & has zero evidence against him & yet still get convicted??? That is crazy & so terrifying. I feel so sorry for that poor fella.

[@RaphaelDawkinsCombatRadio]

It just goes to show how many other must be rotting behind bars whilst being innocent.

[@chrissilvester5663]

@@RaphaelDawkinsCombatRadio I totally agree man. Everything's so corrupt, courts just want a quick resolution without analysing every bit of detail which is why many innocent people get sent to prison

[@sepidehrz]

Shitty system every body has their reason to ignore truth or lack of evidence .

[@icepick859]

It was a jury that convicted him. Have you seen how absolutely moronic the general public is? These idiots have your life in their hands

[@ianmangham4570]

​@@icepick859So true.😮

[@Lordperson3]

Couldn’t imagine being blamed for your wife’s murder and being completely innocent!

[@truecrimescafe]

its really unimaginable

[@goldenagenut]

Any crime - 5% of prisoners are innocent of the crimes with which they were convicted. Think about that.

[@ahenwaa5133]

The heartache. He didn't even have the chance to grieve properly 😢

[@2FRESH-4U]

Hard core fukola

[@Hoolie24]

Sometimes cops zero in on a suspect and work to prove them guilty instead of considering all options. It’s lazy but effective unfortunately

[@princessofhardrock3934]

OMG! That 911 call by Pamela sounded like bad acting! “Help…help…help…!” She said it in the same tone of voice that someone would use to call their dog! And I feel feel SO BAD for the husband (Russ)! Loses his wife, then falsely convicted for her murder…that’s heartbreaking! And his kids lost all those years with him after losing their mom.😢

[@tranquilrabies]

I've heard more convincing cries for help opening a jar of pickles than she made for a supposed intruder.

[@Raymondgogolf]

Hi Princess I hope my comment didn't sound as a form of privacy invasion your comment tells of a wonderful woman with a beautiful heart which led me to comment I don't normally write in the comment section but I think you deserve this complement. If you don’t mind can we be friends? Thanks God bless you….🌹🌹🌹🌹

[@TrapstarWock]

@@Raymondgogolf sounds like the start of one of a murder case. Person befriends other person online, they meet up 6 months later, then end up with their body mutilated in 6 pieces with the remains found in some swampy forest. Princess, I wouldn’t befriend this person if I was you xD

[@dkaob8351]

Whoever transcribed the 911 call obviously cannot hear.

[@newgrl]

That call was really bad community theater.

[@E-Kat]

The level of empathy shown by this channel is very rare; the condolences at the beginning and no background music show such respect for the victims and their families! Thank you for having an understanding. Rest in Peace all poor people 😭♥️

[@E-Kat]

@@dp604345well, almost! Comparing with other channels, there's hardly any noise in the background. 😊

[@tankthearc9875]

i see a karen , ppl are fooled easy

[@E-Kat]

@@tankthearc9875 people are fooled EASILY! That's your native language you're butchering.

[@tankthearc9875]

@@E-Kat i speak 3 languages

[@hals214]

She is just like Mia Khalifa on being Karen.

[@squirrelcovers6340]

It's terrifying how evil people can be.

[@scottj4641]

This is a level of evil that shocked me even after watching the true crime stories of dozens of vile psychopaths. If I had read this story in a novel, I would have found it far too over-the-top to be believable.

[@CoExist64]

Very true…

[@diegoallcore]

​@@scottj4641 Maybe that was the plan all along.

[@e.abrahamovich8981]

What were her thought proces? Let’s see if I can get away with murder again? So she comes up with idea to search for some one in the poorer area of the city, picking them up with car. Bring in them to her house, she had already pre writing script, to recreate Dateline to lure her victims.

[@FearsomeVoid]

Yeah humans are terrible.

[@suzuneinukami]

Pam Hupp is one of the most evil person I’ve ever seen, the way she was just so hell bent on ruining Russ’s life is absolutely insane.

[@vampiraJ]

I wonder if she tried to get with him and he rejected her, so she decided to make his life hell.

[@jgiza8888]

Pam Hupp is a more wicked and uglier version of Amber Turd.

[@larrycrabs5995]

Reminds me of Amber Heard

[@iamthefuss934]

@@larrycrabs5995 oh god stop. Amber is nothing

[@larrycrabs5995]

@@iamthefuss934 I agree

[@Oceanlover1982]

This angers me to the core. You killed your mom, your best friend, and an innocent man . All who were suffering and you ended their life in a horrible way for money. I hope she finds her justice in jail

[@c4mprnapper932]

She won't

[@KimberlyBishh]

Evil incarnate

[@theresarasche3173]

In hell too!!!

[@husseinandout3867]

@@c4mprnapper932 I think so too. It's like, whenever I watch these crime videos, I notice that always the most evil people, who happen to be mostly women, either completely get away with their crimes or spend just a little time in prison. Unbelievable.

[@petrajuarez6108]

Evil Mutant is still walking

[@tubebammy]

Her “call for help” when on the phone with police reminded me of when Willy Wonka was like “Stop. No. Come back”. Smh. But those who convicted Russ even though his alibi was solid as a rock should wither have all their licenses revoked or they should be put in jail themselves. Cuz that was a pitiful display of the law.

[@amityislandchum]

...Do you seriously not know what a jury is? Are you an adult who has no idea that convictions are determined by a group of 12 regular people? There are no licenses to revoke.

[@littlegirllost2654]

@@amityislandchummakes no difference it was the judge who forbid looking at Pam plus the law painted that picture. Have you honestly ever heard of wrongful incarceration? Plenty wrongful incarceration suits have been won and paid

[@davidng8870]

Sounds like she stubbed her toe huh. Can’t even fake emotions, scary woman

[@Somegirl811]

Betsy's poor daughters lost both of their parents for years and their mother forever. There's just no way to fix that.

[@Raymondgogolf]

Hi Melody I hope my comment didn't sound as a form of privacy invasion your comment tells of a wonderful woman with a beautiful heart which led me to comment I don't normally write in the comment section but I think you deserve this complement. If you don’t mind can we be friends? Thanks God bless you….🌹🌹🌹🌹

[@katieidgaf7500]

@@Raymondgogolf Stop it!!!!!

[@barbarachippel3142]

@@katieidgaf7500 He/she hits on everyone. I saw his name in other comments saying the same thing. Just BEWARE.

[@alexisalexander4431]

@@Raymondgogolf stop tryna scam ppl u weirdo

[@babd7176]

@@Raymondgogolf 😂😂😂😂😂

[@SniKenna]

One of the worst parts is the fact that she convinced the detectives she was Betsy's life insurance beneficiary to "take care of Betsy's daughters," then she kept the money. Such a remorseless POS.

[@CoExist64]

Like Murdaugh did with his housekeeper’s sons. Smdh

[@crystald7043]

No bc what happened to the kids??

[@llamaniaman4002]

⁠@@crystald7043 I think they were placed with a family member when Russ was convicted and subsequently jailed. Pam never gave them any of the money. I'd imagine the girls are adults now. Im pretty sure they were when Russ was released, as they were a few years old in 2002 when Betsy met Pam.

[@saf1999]

I could never imagine losing my wife like that and then being charged with life for the murder. Losing my children and having people basically tell them I killed their mom. I feel so bad for him 😣

[@Tetrathegod]

she pulled the woman thing hahaha

[@scottj4641]

And having your wife's murderer testify against you and help put you in prison.

[@DrJ-hx7wv]

Welcome to being a man

[@Elegant_Sausage]

​@@DrJ-hx7wvPribably wouldn't be so easy to believe a man did it if men weren't always doing violent crap. Just saying.

[@hideyable]

My colleague told me that his stepdaughters haven't spoken to him since he was convicted. I hope Pam's temporary lust for wealth hasn't irrevocably destroyed their relationship cos losing their mother & wife so horribly is tragic enough

[@tompilkington7379]

I started listening to true crime stories about five years ago. When I listened to this one I just couldn’t believe it because I went to high school with Betsy. You listen to these things and are disgusted but then when it’s someone you knew it so surreal. I had not spoken with Betsy since about two years after high school so I was so surprised to see this. She was always a nice fun loving girl and I’m so happy for the short time she did have finding a great husband and having two loving daughters regardless of the lies Pam spoke about them. Don’t believe her for a second knowing what kind of person Betsy was. I’m so sorry for Russ and her daughters. Betsy didn’t deserve the crap hand life had dealt her. RIP Betsy. I’ll always have a place in my heart for you.

[@theabispin8032]

This case terrifies me - if the jury wants you to be guilty it doesn’t matter how much evidence it seems - very scary

[@CoExist64]

Yep, just look around at the comments on these channels and you’ll see why. These are the people who may end up on a jury for any of us, and that’s scary…

[@kristovapalenkova5884]

​@@CoExist64 seriously

[@icepick859]

Have you seen people before? People are morons. And these idiots have your life in their hands.

[@qua7771]

Hope Russ got some competition at least.

[@JSchaffer214]

Sadly, I think there's a good argument to be made that our society has become far too socially inept and addicted to instant gratification to act as jurors in a trial. Especially a trial in which someone's entire life is on the line. I'm surprised we haven't seen at least one viral video of an entire jury performing an organized dance during deliberation.

[@timmyp8459]

And then the judge blocks them from implicating Hupp in her "Best Friend's" murder. How was there no lawsuit filed against the jurors/judge.....INSANE!

[@flenzy]

One word: corruption. To actually PROTECT the obvious real killer.

[@KerryHouseholder]

I have never in my life heard such pathetic screams for "help".

[@timmyp8459]

@@flenzy Absolutely no doubt, completely absurd.

[@SpookyNugs]

Can you sue the jurors? I've never heard of that tbh.

[@Synaptic_gap]

Everyone involved in railroading Russ should be serving lengthy prison sentences, from the lazy ass cops to the idiot prosecutor who's only interest was in putting a W on the board. How many others have been convicted by this seriously flawed process? Disgusting.

[@sluggy6074]

The fact that investigators would think this husband would brutally murder his wife who's already terminal and that THREE OTHER MEN would conspire to have this wife/mother murdered just to get money 'a little sooner' when it's not needed at that time. MAKES ME AFRAID OF THE INVESTIGATORS!! I mean, these stories always cause me to doubt humanity but that's way too much brutality with way too little motive and 3 other ordinary people in on it. To think that's most plausible gives me a real glimpse into these investigators minds.

[@joycemarie9702]

Appalling that the jury was that stupid!!! Unbelievable!! I know that Russ successfully sued the Police and Prosecutor…but everyone of his friends that were telling the truth should also get compensation for being called liars and basically the prosecutor implying that they were all committing perjury!

[@Rubycella]

Right investogators just want an easy case so they can make money, they should have fired all the investigators immediately.

[@1888.cfc.]

They (cops and DA)are purely corrupted. Wanting prosecutions under ther belts. They don't care if you are innocent.

[@trentbrownstone1481]

four other men

[@SimplyMajestic77]

Sadly almost the same thing might happen to Matheau Moore accused of staging suicide scene of his wife Emily Noble who hunged herself..no physical evidence ties him to her death yet the detective and prosecutors attrny. are convinced he did it ..the jury will be giving the verdict by the few coming days

[@JustinSmith-px1ky]

Im super glad he not only got released but payed out too.

[@finnvantrot1120]

A praise to all the journalists exposing murderers, psychopaths, politicians, and various crimes. Relentless and truth-seeking, that's how it should be. It's such an important pillar of democracy. Greetings from Germany and thanks for the great content! Condolences to all the victims' families and friends...

[@pwrplnt1975]

It's a shame that's not the way journalists are nowadays!

[@nunceccemortiferiscultu7826]

Try that as a journalist these days and your accused of "conspiracy theories" or "misinformation"

[@nunceccemortiferiscultu7826]

Try that as a journalist these days and your accused of "conspiracy theories" or "misinformation"

[@pineapplesonpizza7726]

@@nunceccemortiferiscultu7826 We shouldn't believe journalists all the time too. A journalist in my country was convicted guilty of libel and cyber crime after she published an article against this one business man who has since died. In her article she wrote that they had gained a significant amount of money, by the millions, and it was suspicious, only to then be found out that they did not gain the said millions in her article. She then retracted her statement and said that the number was a typo. And now she still insists that it was all an attack to silence freedom of speech.

[@shuffman8094]

Some of those journalists wrongful ‘convict’ as well.

[@melntribe4403]

Butchering a dying cancer patient is already beyond evil...

[@xoxogossipgirl133]

Ikr. BEYOND

[@ZlyJaszczomp]

BEEYOUND

[@iloveavicci5907]

Out yonder.....

[@Adventurousavacado.]

💯

[@Mjg503]

It doesn't even make sense. The woman was dying and she was the beneficiary to her policy. She just couldn't wait a year?

[@rhondaburke2231]

Her 911 call is exactly why she would never make it as an actress. 🥴🙈

[@sterlHAsilva]

Out of all the things in this video to frown upon you chose her “acting” skills? Like being a good liar is a good thing?

[@rhondaburke2231]

@@sterlHAsilva The whole thing is absolutely heartbreaking. It’s not like like I picked that one thing to have an opinion about geez. That one thing is what I chose to “comment” on. One comment doesn’t dictate my feelings about the entire video. It’s just an observation. 🙄 Her bad acting proves that she was lying. I’ve learned that people judge because thinking is too hard. Nothing about my comment was about her lying. I never once even insinuated that lying was a good thing.

[@IwasBlueb4]

@@rhondaburke2231 i understood what u meant..i think most people would, too...

[@rhondaburke2231]

@@IwasBlueb4 thank you.

[@su.mmersolstice]

Dude honestly! Those helps sounded so fake!

[@Takethe3dgeoff]

I live in Troy where this took place. I went to high school there. I don’t like when you say things like “a very believable witness” the police should’ve realized 1) she changed her life insurance policy and it wasn’t even fully verified during the murder… the life insurance policy change? All money goes to Pam. Hmm first red flag 2) not even taking into account that when someone finds a loved one like this YOUR MIND DOESNT GO TO MURDER. Why? Your brain can’t process it, can’t believe what it’s seeing. 3) Pam immediately started saying things to imply that the hubby did it.. Like they didn’t take a step back and say “hey… do we think… that maybeeee, what if it was someone else?” It’s infuriating that an innocent man who just lost his wife, sat in jail. I’m glad he sued for millions 💖

[@brittanys1997]

That 911 call was ridiculous. Half-assed "help...help..😐" I would immediately declare her guilty.

[@melodiefrances3898]

God no kidding! It's laughable!

[@sandycarra5754]

At first, I thought it was a very poor reenactment! Glad it's not just me thinking that

[@zozo_1752]

Nothing angers me more than the innocent people paying for others crimes...

[@thecrimeatlas]

Agreed, I've built my channel around this notion

[@Walamonga1313]

@@thecrimeatlas only time I'm not annoyed by self promotion

[@billyjackbuzzard]

Stupidity is the worst pandemic. It never gets better.

[@anhedonianepiphany5588]

Unethical, corrupt, _and_ totally incompetent, is an apt description of the police force’s handling of Betsy’s case. That’s what happens when the investigating officers are cognitively challenged and morally bankrupt. The amount of compensation Russ received was entirely inadequate, and it’s time that those responsible for scapegoating him are delivered the justice they truly deserve. We know that people like Pamela exist, so we require detectives that are fit to uncover those like her, and not be foolishly manipulated by them. She was not clever and her crimes were not sophisticated, but she played the simpletons tasked with solving these crimes like a virtuoso.

[@lemonpepperflav4skin]

👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@TrapstarWock]

Right, seems like investigators can only solve & crack the cases with an obvious suspect instead of the manipulative unsuspected suspect which put on a facade to cover her true identity. I mean come on, she had $650k waiting on her from just Betsy’s & Shirley’s life insurance (which she changed just 5 days before Betsy’s murder) on top of that fact she was at Betsy’s house for 30 minutes after she ‘dropped her off’, what else do you need??? Just because she said “I didn’t do it” that just means they don’t need to investigate further? Unbelievable lol if this case was in Florida 100% guaranteed she would’ve been convicted the same month the case was open.

[@superloopy24v]

The judge too in the case of Betsy

[@adaireya4506]

THANK YOU WELL SAID ✌👍

[@THOR252RACER]

And that's common place. Every day we pay them to do this. Sad.

[@tiana-em2ez]

Hearing that man ask what happened right before she shot him is so heartbreaking. Just thinking about how surprised and scared he was when she pulled out the gun is sickening

[@MadgeGreen]

Oh, I didn't hear that. That breaks my heart. 😢 It proves that he wasn't yelling at her or threatening her in any way.

[@zac7915]

There is so much evil in that womans heart. One of the things that really pissed me off about this case is that the prosecutors managed to convince a jury that all his friends were in on it and they were creating an alibi for him..........Like how does a prosecutor do that?!?!?!. That prosecutor must have been the best lawyer in the world or Russ's defence attorney must have been the most useless lawyer in the world. I'm so glad that he was compensated, but there is not enough money in the world to buy someone's time and freedom that was taken from them.

[@Rawdiculous100]

This is unreal 😢😢😢

[@janissauncy7019]

This is such a horrible story. Such an evil, evil person. So sad for those who died, but also for a man who spent years in prison for a crime he didn't commit. And all for money.

[@Joelswinger34]

I know, and I think her bland, overwieght, classic middle-aged looks and style, plus her Midwest accent made people overlook her. That hairstyle seems to be issued to women in the Midwest when they turn 40.

[@pjewellful2012]

It’s the fact that people still believe women just because they are women for me😡 This evil lady had zero alibi, he had four reliable ones, she had intent, he had none. Those detectives suck so hard they should have been fired!

[@johnwinner8511]

Does the insurance company pay the husband and did he get a settlement for wrongful conviction and time served ?

[@bleebleeblahblah]

@@johnwinner8511 unfortunately, police are not held accountable for anything that they do. So I believe. Most likely Russ, the husband, received nothing. He likely still will have to petition the court to have his record expunged. I doubt the Ins Co will come forward with more money. Have to wonder what happens to the money she received, now that she's in jail. 🤔

[@barbarachippel3142]

@@johnwinner8511 I think he got $2Million but deserved much more. God bless him. 🙏

[@CharlieDontSurf1006]

This Woman's home and assets should be forfeited to the man who spent 15 years behind bars. I wonder why they call it the department of justice.. there's no justice in our laws.

[@missakialexandria]

I think he could sue her estate civilly for intentional infliction of emotional distress, etc. Then he could get a judgment against her and seize all her estate assets. That is, if she left anything at all. Usually these people spend it all immediately and mortgage everything. There's usually no money left.

[@xxLivinginTheLightxx]

He spent 3 years behind bars. Where on earth did you get 15?

[@upplsuckimcool16]

@@xxLivinginTheLightxx I was about to say the same thing ;D

[@akshay9602]

There is justice but only for women because courts are biased towards women just like in this case

[@Lwah0812]

Half of her estate belongs to her husband who is innocent in all of this. The other half should be liquidated to pay for a defense lawyer instead of her getting to use a public defender.

[@ajobi33]

The family of that disabled man should sue too. The incompetence of those investigators and attorney gave her the audacity to turn 1 murder into 3! Compensation for his bereaved child(ren) is the closest they could come to ‘justice’. Her mother on the other hand got NOTHING..killed while the dept was busy focusing on the wrong suspect in the first murder. The sheer audacity is astounding. She made a joke of them. Destroyed 3 families. What a life.

[@Nosferata138]

Her 911 call didn't sound very urgent. The "help, help, help" lacked any emotion or fear at all. She almost sounded bored and not very concerned whatsoever.

[@fridahndungenzaumi6591]

Very true

[@srk54989]

Exactly

[@kcrow430]

Yeah like she had a raccoon in her house or something.

[@serenafatimakazmi]

It sounded as if she was mocking someoen

[@melodiefrances3898]

@@serenafatimakazmi ikr? "Help, help!" Pathetic.

[@minacakes2]

Pam sounds like she's chatting with a friend about a movie she saw during that interview, not like someone who was attacked and had to kill someone in self defense. In her "frantic" 911 call she doesn't seem pressed AT ALL. How do you kill your own ailing mother!?!?!?! This lady is so diabolical.

[@pumpthebrakes]

Pam’s public defender died of a fatal heart attack??? They better look into that one too

[@mikeyza92]

Good riddance

[@AutumnBRreeze]

Perhaps Pam baked them some cookies..or their favorite cake, if you know what I mean.

[@carlenesmaltz3830]

I think I should gotten that nice new lexis new car for Rena who could play me for a fool well Rena I'll stick it out for one year hopefully I'll dead by then it's very painful to live unhappiness life I don't wish up on anyone I think the two of you should sit it in jail 23 months if not prison time

[@NicoleS0913]

Scary!!! I thought the same!!! Terrible.

[@carlenesmaltz3830]

Pam didn't give any cookies the only thing she gave me was vase of flowers that's been long time ago

[@janicevictor7414]

"I need you to calm down." The worst statement 911 could ever say.

[@threeminuteshate]

What? No, they literally need her to calm down so they can find out information and get help to her. This isn’t an argument they’re having where telling her to calm will just make the situation worse.

[@lunatic5162]

What they need to tell then,genius?

[@ChopBassMan]

And yet I've heard that or something really similar on dozens of 911 calls on KZbin. That is pretty bad. You'd think that the 911 operators would be taught to say something a bit more helpful...

[@henryjames8654]

Ms Victor, the worst would be, "why did you do it?".

[@ENFPerspectives]

They have to get the information

[@deniseroe5891]

Listening to her explain her “attack” and 911 call is disgusting to listen to. What causes someone to be this way? Poor Louis, all of these are horrible, but to kill a mentally and physically challenged man, who was a father blows my mind. There is a wonderful place in hell for her.

[@ruthmccurdy8623]

Yes and I take comfort in this.

[@forpetessake3532]

@@ruthmccurdy8623 tho she's a monster you should never feel joy over any person burning eternity in HELL ! God will still forgive this woman IF SHE REPENTED with a true heart and excepts JESUS CHRIST - odds aren't good this will happen if that makes you happy .

[@chinavaughan6383]

I don’t think hell would have her🤬

[@laquitagilmer5656]

Not wonderful…👀

[@maryapatterson]

Easy greed. Basic forensics and police investigation should have taken care of the first case. Luckily many of these people are so greedy, that instead of leaving it there. They do it again, each time getting more careless each time. Eventually these people get themselves caught out!

[@vanessamw1140]

It's baffling to me that so much evidence of Russ's innocence was right there in their faces and they still charged him. The craziest thing of all the evidence, to me, is that the victims sock was used to smear blood all over the house and put back on her foot, and they didn't seem to think that was at all strange. She wanted to make it look like more of a blood bath, when it already was, and looking at the photo shown in the video, the blood was obviously smeared all over in an unnatural way. Her body wasn't dragged to leave those smears, so clearly someone smeared it themselves for a reason. And the victim was wearing one bloody sock. How was this detail alone not enough to make them question the entire case? The jury really screwed up only awarding Russ $2 million. That's not justice for what he was put through. But I'm glad to hear there's finally an investigation into the investigation...(an investigation into an investigation.... that shouldn't be a sentence that exists).

[@wvrjl]

COPS: It's always the husband. His 911 call didn't help. Suicide? But that's all they needed for their tunnel vision. Forget the woman who became hrr beneficiary 5 daysbefore her murder, and was the last person to see her.

[@elainesmiley4817]

Stupidity of the that entire court system!! including the jury !! Innocent people of color can feel his pain

[@mikealvas]

The fact the prosecutor and the cops working on this case are still working is the reason your country in the west in burning in flames.

[@apexnext]

Amazes me when Christian Republicans can be so for the death penalty. When there are countless stories like this, in the age of DNA evidence.

[@miacantrell5723]

What she did to Lewis was absolutely disgusting. He thought he was playing for a reenactment and she straight up killed him. Thats so heartbreaking. I remember a podcast about this and I was so mad listening to this.

[@mrs.higgins3055]

Mr. Ballen from a KZbin did a podcast about this. I thought it sounded familiar when I started watching.

[@ALECTORMANCY]

It’s crazy that not only that there was no evidence to convict Russ, there was in fact evidence to protect him. While there was evidence connecting this lady to the murder and yet no one cared. Crazy how people, even a judge, is willing to blind themselves to a possible murderer just because she seems nice. Insane stuff.

[@stevewilson3793]

The fact Russ told 911 operators his wife killed herself speaks more to his innocense than his guilt. This to me implies he did not know about the stab wounds or the knife embedded in his wife's neck,. He was more than likely overwelmed by the bloody scene and only noticed the blood coming from her wrists and recalling the dying woman's threats of killing herself,he made the assumption. What idiot would make the claim of suicide in this case, if they had foreknowledge of the other injuries.? Saying she died from suicide would only make him look like he was lying in an attempt to hide the blatently obvious.What is wrong with those prosecutors? I am glad he sued their asses off.

[@letuswrap]

I thought the same

[@chereejohnson2400]

Exactly right!!!! You're comment correct and wise!

[@andrewk9037]

Something Your Missing ... When He made the Call to the Police He Had Seen How His Wife was Lying Dead . It was Clear from the Crime Scene , where his Wife's Body was Lying and the Blood ' Pam ' Had Smeared From the Victim On to Her Husband's Clothes and Shoes to Implicate Her Husband As the Prime Suspect . The Crime Scene Pointed to Murder - Her Husband Reported Suicide ... Which was Suspicious to the Police . This Is Why He was the Prime Suspect .

[@hazelhadley-britt6396]

Plus there was physical evidence he was nowhere near the scene of the crime. They took the word of the murderer.

[@scottcastro9383]

It tells you nothing at all. And speaks to neither his innocence nor guilt.

[@colesmith7509]

I would be terrified to have a jury decide my fate in a situation like this. People are STUPID and make awful decisions in trials frequently. It was painfully obvious that he didn't murder his wife

[@Justintime619]

Why would the MAD COW think she could “act” her way out of this? I’m not a cop but her interrogation is painful..

[@hyperdog67]

Mad Cow is right!

[@fightingfisherman9690]

Well she sorted did because she got away with it for ages and got kill somebody else but the look at mad cow was believed by these dumb police

[@thebirdee55]

Because she had twice before and those moronic cops and prosecutor bought it.

[@lovelight6973]

Well sadly they fell for it twice before.

[@thecrimeatlas]

Total arrogance, some people truly believe they will get away with murder

[@crumpetcapers75]

This is one of the best summaries of this case I've seen. And I'm so grateful for all your work, which I've only recently stumbled on. Thank you for a measured and engaged voice over too, the robotic/weird musical ones on so many other channels are jarring and distract from the gravity of the cases. I appreciate your acknowledgement of the victims at the very start and respectand compassion for their families.

[@robscire3954]

its a way of denoising and creating something out of nothing in sound

[@MeeksMeow]

The only reason she got away with killing two people prior is simply poor Police investigation work & shady prosecutors.

[@Taharqo.saved.the.Hebrew]

Plus she is white, in America we know how racist the justice system is whites get away with alot

[@joman388]

Sad but I wouldnt necessarly say it was poor police work.I do agree the police should have grilled the four witness's likely better than they did. The jury bought it as it could have been true,Focus on the evil Pam and its all her money that should be paid to the various estates and she should have been executed immediately after the trial by hanging or worse.thanks

[@pameladee]

Yes, law enforcement wouldn’t even investigate Pam’s alibi when she was the last person to be with Betsy. It’s sickening.

[@Mustang1984]

Yea, 2 million wasn't nearly enough.

[@joman388]

@@Mustang1984 It would be if it came directly out of your pocket,wouldnt you say? than ks

[@williamwade3443]

What scares me more than any crime or murder case, is someone being wrongly convicted for a murder they didn't commit. I've seen to many of these videos of the "husband" being arrested, thrown in jail, and their lives ruined bc of lazy police work and a PO with a hard on.

[@Jale299]

facts

[@kimsunny4778]

It’s scary how too many innocent men are thrown in jail in America.

[@NicoliRavioli117]

It’s sickening. Just from his 911 call ALONE. That was genuine grief, horror, & shock at what he had found. I’ve heard some AWFUL fake 911 calls from ppl who ended up being guilty. This guy was done SO wrong. The “justice system” is a frickin joke.

[@kimsunny4778]

@@NicoliRavioli117 Marjorie Taylor Greene swatted twice.

[@pamelaremme38]

@@NicoliRavioli117 That is why it is called "criminal JUSTICE" The criminals get the justice. Judges should NOT be allowed to ban evidence.

[@WobblesandBean]

15:30 "Help, help" she says, with the same urgency as one would ordering a coffee.

[@jordanhutton5787]

And they bought all of it smh

[@WobblesandBean]

@@jordanhutton5787 They didn't, though. Thankfully, that was the one that finally put that wretched thing away.

[@jordanhutton5787]

@@WobblesandBean Thankfully but her previous crimes were nowhere close to "perfect crimes". The fact she was even able to get the point of reaching murder #3 is a complete failure.

[@WobblesandBean]

@@jordanhutton5787 I completely agree. The cops were beyond worthless.

[@Sschneider50]

I live in the town right by O’fallon MO…I’ll never forget how this case shook everyone around here. How could you kill your mother, “best friend” and a disabled man. Her “frantic” robbery call was the worst acting I’ve ever seen. I hope she rots in prison. If the police actually did their job right her mother and Louis would still be alive and Russ would have NEVER had to go through the additional trauma of being framed for the murder of the woman he loved. Pure evil this woman is.

[@JudicialMermaid]

UPDATE: On 9/8/2022 Pam Hupp had her preliminary hearing. She waived her right to this hearing and is set to go to trial in October 2022. She is currently represented by a public defender after her prior attorney died unexpectedly of a heart attack in February. Her current attorney declined to comment on why they waived this important hearing considering prosecution is seeking the death penalty for this case. Regardless, she is right where she needs to be!

[@robotaholic]

Holy Canoli! She killed a lady with cancer, her own mom, and a man with a mental disability. She's freaking evil and heartless. Any normal person would gladly protect their mom as a human shield...never hurt them. And I don't think being stabbed all over is the optimal method of assisted suicide 🤔 It's almost unbelievable because it's coming from a woman perpetrator.

[@truartist5379]

That’s an animal not a woman

[@RJ-mh3ox]

Those are some of last people anybody would ever harm or even be rude to and she murdered them horrifically and tried to blame an innocent man twice who was already dealing with a wife with cancer 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@joanneanderson6535]

Hell with be her next destination!

[@mirinah4719]

maybe the mom was abusive???

[@Rose-vg2ki]

She looks so damn evil, and the story she is telling didn't even sound true. She is a habitual liar.

[@MayorOfMoetown]

poor Russ 😢 imagine going through a long,drawn out illness with your wife, constantly worrying about your children and losing her...then walk in the house one day to ee that scene. frantically and desperatly calling for help and then the horror and indignity of being arrested and accused of doing it himself. my god

[@B1TKZH47]

Can’t imagine how Russ felt when he was falsely framed.. My blood started to boil when the cops didn’t investigate Pam further when Russ had an air-tight alibi for his whereabouts when Betsy was murdered - and that her life insurance went to Pam.

[@BucketHeadianHagg]

Thank you, Beyond Evil! You have fans from all over planet earth watching right now!!

[@DaveDuncanMusic]

🍗🎸

[@natalie9884]

❤️❤️curious what country are you in??

[@wendirose509]

I'm from Houston Texas. Where are you from? And thanks for your comment.

[@Weightingtablesafter]

🇦🇪🇦🇪🇦🇪

[@BeyondEvill]

We are grateful for each and every one of you. Thank you for always supporting us ❤️

[@r0der1ck_0nl1ne]

This is why the jury system is just as reliable as a polygraph. These type of cases need to be handled by a chamber of multiple judges. In civic law countries heavy cases are judged by at least three judges. Every judges writes his own opinion. The youngest, least experienced, goes first so that the seniority of the other two doesn’t influence his/her opinion. You need professionals judging these things. Not some randoms pulled of the street.

[@glendanewton5277]

Such a person who has no conscience

[@mgdarenz]

Ahh, the old Argument from Authority fallacy. You are a real bright one.

[@r0der1ck_0nl1ne]

@Pixelated Monad education isn’t a fallacy, it’s assures a degree of competence. It has little to do with authority. Judges in civic law countries are independent professionals, who have a separate additional law school to attend after ‘normal’ law school. They’re not political appointees like in the US. But hey, I guess you Americans know better. Your incarceration and rehabilitation rates speak for themselves.

[@lucyclark1301]

Judges are pretty corrupt....

[@orfeotracio]

​@@r0der1ck_0nl1ne Yankee mentality. Same place where going around with a shotgun is more a human right than abortion

[@jessicabailey3281]

I legitimately hope every single one of those jury members feels what they did to that man for the rest of their lives. Yes the cops are at fault and painted the picture, but it's your job as a jury to see the truth....how did not one of you realize that man did not kill his wife.....stupidity at its finest! That jury is why we have warning signs and labels!!!!

[@SkyCloudSilence]

Yes, their duty is only to convict when it can be proven BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT!!! It could have been negligence on the part of the judge to properly instruct the jury on the standards of the law.

[@SnuffitLabs]

You do know that what the jury gets to see and hear is filtered by the judge, right? The jury only decides what is true based on the facts that they are presented. What we really need if for prosecutors to face the sentence of someone they wrongly convicted. If we had that, this probably wouldn't happen as often.

[@evalunloca]

You r right the jurors absolutely need to be held accountable and need to also be paid well to be there. They have a person's life in their hand they shouldn't be worried about sitters or anything like that. The courts not only know this but depend on it for convictions and private prisons GTL AND KEEFE U NAME IT JAYPAY ITS ALL ABOUT MONEY court fines fees I mean it's sick. How can u really get a fair trial when money and status will choose ur verdict

[@bobsmith-ji2uh]

The jury was stupid and so were the cops and the prosecutors belong in prison

[@monicab6403]

Exactly

[@ellealexander-globalcitizi3384]

So basically nothing matters, it's all about who has the ability to convince the jurors.

[@gomphrena-beautifulflower-8043]

I’ve been a juror twice. I was appalled at things that motivate jurors in the deliberations room, such as: “The guy is guilty. Just look at him. I can always tell.” “Hurry up and just declare him guilty. My child has a ballgame and I need to go.” “Guilty already! I need to get home and cook supper.” Do you see? These are actual comments made by fellow jurors. Fortunately for the Defendant, we were unable to reach a verdict because a fellow juror and I refused to give in (the actual evidence was weak, and at the time our ADA almost never proved his cases). So it’s of utmost importance that you, if you’re ever called to do your civic duty, listen carefully and follow the law as it pertains to the jury hearing any case. If I were to commit a crime, Heaven forbid, I certainly hope the 12 people deciding my fate were as meticulous as I was when I served.

[@tammiepage6489]

That’s why I hope I never Commager because I would feel so guilty if I personally Joanne that could be innocent felt like they were innocent didn’t feel like their evidence was enough against them yeah I’m not gonna sit there and say they’re guilty I’m in a sad have some drugs just want to be in a hurry to go home I get that I understand that but why would you sit there though somebody in jail that might not deserve to be in jail especially if the evidence an ad up or there wasn’t enough evidence

[@ilikenachosify]

Someone else said that it is very difficult dealing with a jury who are so poorly educated/ uninformed/ bigoted and closed-minded. They refuse to consider FACTS and science because they don’t understand it. Innocent people go to jail or worse/ and criminals go free to repeat offenses.

[@iamV10010]

I was part of a jury trial as well. I came home every night in tears. It is shockingly bad in there. People are judgemental and barely care about the evidence or the case. They do not weed out the ones with bias. Lawyers pick jurors based on how likely the person is to side with their arguments. They always ask you if you understand what reasonable doubt is. No one seems to truly know. The ones who would make decent jurors sit up there and lie to get out of it. So you're left with people who just want to make it about themselves or think they are on an episode of fkin Law and Order. It. Is. SHOCKING.

[@gomphrena-beautifulflower-8043]

I was so bothered by the jury’s actions, I called up the Circuit Court Clerk - an acquaintance - to voice my concerns. Later, I saw our part of the state’s DA, and told him the same thing. He said he knows it’s flawed, but it’s the best system we have.

[@GabrielAKAFinn]

Maybe you shouldn't force people to be jurors at gunpoint then, and let judges actually judge cases. What even is the point of judges? Reading the sentence off the book and banging the gavel?

[@junedarius254]

The fact that Russ got convicted for his wife Betsy’s murder is terrifying that a jury, could come to an unanimous decision of guilty. And that our judges, prosecutors and everyone in our judicial system is even more terrifying

[@Mustang1984]

Yea they convict people all the time without air tight evidence. IMO there should have to be direct evidence of a crime to convict and not just circumstantial evidence.

[@theonejokeking3191]

I’m a caregiver and 100% have met people like Pam. It’s definitely true that the majority of people do not believe predators like her are actually predators. It’s very sad to watch.

[@whitedragoness23]

Some women aren’t sweet, people tend to find them as not the type to be abusers, killers, or just plain evil

[@57andstillkicking]

@@Raymondgogolf It would be good if you stopped writing this stuff.

[@harveywallbanger6258]

@@57andstillkicking What?

[@amandacherie5779]

It's very clear to me that our justice system needs a major overhaul. This is just absolutely ridiculous. And what about her poor mother? Good Lord...

[@Proudathiest1]

This is why I have a huge problem w both detectives and prosecution , it seems like they really aren’t too concerned about getting the right person they just want someone, anyone to pay for the crimes . They get tunnel vision

[@CoExist64]

💯

[@MadgeGreen]

Corruption.

[@CKBos]

Especially on an election year. They just want anybody, somebody, behind bars, to “look good,” like they’re doing their jobs.

[@wheresfluffy123]

I hope he gets more money, that police negligence is infuriating

[@1888.cfc.]

It's wasn't ignorance they knew exactly what they were doing. Tgey want prosecutions under their belts

[@Raymondgogolf]

@@LisaKroulikMN Hi Lisa’s I hope my comment didn't sound as a form of privacy invasion your comment tells of a wonderful woman with a beautiful heart which led me to comment I don't normally write in the comment section but I think you deserve this complement. If you don’t mind can we be friends? Thanks God bless you….🌹🌹🌹🌹

[@Kelliebelle44]

@@1888.cfc. I recently watched a new episode of American Justice last week and that’s exactly what I thought from the interviews from the prosecutor Leah Askey. She says they let Russ go after the first arrest because they couldn’t win. She says other things about winning and it was clear she didn’t care about the truth or justice. As a prosecutor the focus should be getting to the truth and effecting justice. After the show I ordered Russ’ attorney Joel Schwartz’s book on the case, “Bone Deep,” (just finished it yesterday) and again I was struck at how she focused on the win. It’s ego. I didn’t feel like she cared about the victim or the family. The fact that she and the police hid the exculpatory luminol photos from the defense and she had somebody get up and lie that the camera malfunctioned and the photos didn’t turn out and to take their word that the scene showed signs of a clean up that was detrimental to Russ, shows how Machiavellian these people are. Before the 2nd trial somebody from the prosecutors office anonymously sent the disks with the photos on them to Schwartz which proved the witness committed perjury and the prosecution had to have been behind it. Boy, was Askey surprised during the 2nd trial when Schwartz pulled those photos out of his hat and confronted the witness who had lied in the first trial. She’d do anything to win and so would those involved with her. And after Russ’ acquittal she put in a request to have all the case evidence destroyed even though the case hadn’t been resolved, except in her tiny mind. Thankfully, somebody ignored her request.

[@alanleemaxwell831]

When did she become so callous and manipulative? There's more to her story, what has she gotten away with in the past???

[@KimberlyBishh]

Watch the series! Renee Zellweger plays her. It is sooooo good!

[@ftsproductions1376]

@@KimberlyBishh I think it sucks. The real story is more interesting.

[@martymcfly7191]

Probably one of my favorite murder mysteries. Pam Hupp was truly crazy

[@cuccicucci4480]

She framed Russ with murder then tried to blame him for someone trying to murder her. This woman is poster-Karen of EVIL.

[@dragontaletarot]

That was the fakest call for ‘help’ I’ve ever heard - it’s hard to believe this hideous person got away with any of her crimes. If you’re willing to hurt your own family, there’s almost nothing you won’t do. Just too sad for the people who she killed and the ones who were falsely accused or made to suffer afterwards 😢

[@qua7771]

It also sounded like she was trying to keep her voice down so neighbors wouldn't hear. The opposite of what a person in distress would do.

[@theotisduncanjr9779]

I trust no one these days. . A murderer isn't gonna show themselves as such, they're always the person you'd never expect.

[@Tis_I_SirJames]

That's the truth. You can't even trust kids around 12 or 13 yo. I recently watched a crime story where young kids were murdering people just to know what it felt like. Where did they get these ideas?

[@ftsproductions1376]

@@Tis_I_SirJames it’s evil. Some people are just inherently evil.

[@amityislandchum]

I mean, that's not true at all. Most murders are committed by your partner, especially if you're a woman.

[@CoExist64]

True, I lived it. I had a ‘friend’ kill someone I loved. This person spent the night at my house, I gave him rides to work, etc and out of nowhere he murdered my loved one. I still trust people because I refuse to let him take that away from me, but I questioned myself for a long time because I thought I was a good judge of character. Trust me, you NEVER know…RIP to the victims

[@billyyank5807]

It's usually those closest to you.

[@bigtizzle1488]

How does someone see “9x the normal dose of Ambien, and this elderly woman tripped so hard that she smashed through her railing…while on sleeping pills,” and think, “clearly accidental?” Some pretty horrible police “work.”

[@sheriatkins4540]

I just can’t imagine being in prison for being innocent. 😡

[@star-q7n]

😡

[@Raymondgogolf]

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[@StlScarlett]

It is absolutely terrifying. And it happens all the time. I couldn’t even imagine-such a traumatic thing to spend any amount of time in jail, prison, etc. Losing your freedoms and having those bars click shut and there’s nothing you can do about it-it’s one of my biggest fears

[@Raymondgogolf]

@@StlScarlett that truth how are you doing

[@katieidgaf7500]

@@Raymondgogolf Shut up

[@janefrommel]

'The Thing About Pam' was really awesome, Renee Zellweger nailed it.

[@carlenesmaltz3830]

Rena is just part of this too I told Rena I had strings it was my daughter Rena said to oh please are really that gone in my mind and demand me to tell Pam I'm sorry for my wrong actions Rena had Pam's back all the way soon sorry Rena hate to say you're in on this too so stop hiding your true thoughts you're caught to shame on both of you girls

[@mjnano2989]

Yeah I have watched that too.

[@MLeibs]

I still think she killed or was responsible for other killings. This level of narcissism, psychopathy, and advanced manipulative abilities are terrifying. For sure she shoved her elderly mother off the balcony.

[@2FRESH-4U]

Just imagine the stuff people used to get away with

[@zukosmom3780]

She’s something else. Smiling and laughing, she’s enjoying the attention

[@whitedragoness23]

I have no doubt she pushed her mom off, she seemed to target victims and she played a caregiver role to get close to them

[@deerose8198]

Totally agree… and in the show it was briefly mentioned that an elderly lady she took care of the time she lived in Florida was deceased 🧐hmmmm🤔

[@bonniehare2372]

Yes, there's more. I'll bet .

[@Thrylos14]

What a monster, seriously. I 've seen lots and lots of crime videos, this is unreal. Thanks for covering it.

[@Osuzyque]

Sarah Boone is worse. She killed her boyfriend by locking him in a suitcase. Check out that case! Soooo Creepy!

[@awm7896]

This makes me believe that prisons are actually full of innocent people, who really must be living a nightmare, imagine being falsely accused of a murder that u really never committed, especially at a time, when this poor man, should have been left to grieve the death of his wife. Poor not being a word, I would choose to use for this, RICH man anymore, as he has been compensated, but it's traumatising, because if she hadn't chosen to carry out the 3rd murder, an innocent man would have been left to rot in prison, for the rest of his life.

[@cheeriosforhonkies8867]

Prisons aren’t full of innocent people. That’s just not logical. Prisons are a business that survive off repeat “customers” They are most certainly guiltily (the majority)

[@TheCrypticSyx]

The National Academy of Sciences estimated that roughly 4% of death row inmates are innocent. and this is a conservative number.

[@kayakexcursions5570]

@@cheeriosforhonkies8867 That's why there's so many innocent people in prison, it's for money, not guilt. If this guy can go to prison with zero evidence and multiple alibis, *anyone* can go to prison.

[@deneilbaker]

That’s why I can’t be in favor for the death penalty. While some definitely deserve it, there’s also those who are innocent and pay the ultimate price

[@roygarza2770]

The fact that she remembers all this that has happened during all this is amazing 👏....she gave a full description of what happened without skipping a beat not a woman who was just pistol whipped 😳

[@lindseyhudson1274]

I can not imagine the torture that Russ experienced. It’s absolutely terrifying that even with all the evidence and a solid alibi that the jury convicted him anyway. Our justice system is beyond broken.

[@akshay9602]

Broken for men*

[@ianmoon1103]

That jury was so stupid. Why would there be a 5 person murder conspiracy to kill a guy's wife.

[@iamV10010]

It's a legal system. No justice to be found. 💔

[@iamV10010]

@@akshay9602 lol, no.

[@karlirosek]

russ didn’t even have time to properly mourn the loss of his wife. i’m so glad he was able to receive the justice he and his wife deserved.

[@smillal]

The wrongful conviction of Betsy's poor husband shows once more how infuriatingly flawed the judicial system is. Whatever happened to 'beyond reasonable doubt'?

[@LittleBittySaidit]

As if there’s a “right” way to handle seeing a loved one dead. I see this way too much, when are investigators going to realize that everyone reacts differently in these situation? Heck I got robbed at gun point while working at a gas station when I was younger…and they thought I was in on it cus I smiled at the guy. It wasn’t me that smiled at the guy, it was my survival mode. I had no control over what I did, my mind was protecting me from losing it. I was lucky, but this poor husband suffered. Ain’t no money gonna make up for what they did to him. And all because he didn’t act “accordingly” to a high adrenaline situation. That’s Sad!

[@missedges3082]

What's scariest about Pam is that we work, live next door to and/or befriend people like her everyday. Not all of them commit murder of course, but her evil, toxic ways are not exclusive to killers.

[@abigaild7304]

As someone with an acquired disability, you learn who will prey on you when you become weak. While everybody is thinking Jane Smith is wonderful, Jane Smith is likely assaulting and injuring and harassing disabled people

[@annajacob7981]

Don't forget family members too. They can be incredibly toxic.

[@TeamCat1128]

I know someone just like her. She’s always doing things for people and “appears” to be a kindhearted Christian woman, but it’s the things below the surface that give it away. So few people don’t care to look below the superficial (like the DA, cops and jurors in this case) and that allows people like this to get over on the vulnerable. Be careful of whom you allow into your circle and trust your gut.

[@nephos100]

Most psychopaths are not killers, but they still leave a trail of damage a mile wide.

[@martacarrasco1]

What a sick monster! Killing her good friend when she was so vulnerable! and her own mother! And that poor man...this is too much to digest! How one single person can be so twisted, soulless and mean?!

[@shanickaedwards5085]

Renee Zellweger played her to perfection 👏🏽👏🏽 The voice the mannerisms the facial expressions are all spots on.

[@ligayalacdao4333]

what movie was it?

[@shanickaedwards5085]

@@ligayalacdao4333 the Pam Hupp series on hulu

[@ENFPerspectives]

I just saw that Renee made the movie and that is what brought me here

[@ericastapleton7042]

This is almost laughable that she thought she would get away with it. Rest in peace to all her poor victims whom were vulnerable anyway. Thank you Beyond Evil ☆

[@FrenkTheJoy]

I mean, if she'd just left it at the first murder she probably would have gotten away with it because they were so hell-bent on convicting the husband despite all the evidence.

[@akshay9602]

@@FrenkTheJoy Yeah courts and police officers are biased towards women

[@이원숙-e6w]

The most vicious, evil and heartless also fall into dumbest, silliest, self-destructive trap they had built, which God leads them to!!!

[@ericastapleton7042]

@@이원숙-e6w Don't blame God ☆

[@cdes1776]

She got away with it for a number of years.

[@dhambone825919]

I thought her 911 call sounded so comically fake I was surprised to see it was actual 911 recording

[@E-Kat]

I'm so sorry for Pamela's family. She's ruined their lives too.

[@cherrysooks8461]

I am sorry for ALL the victims anguish this evil woman caused.

[@E-Kat]

@@cherrysooks8461 yes! 😢

[@GreenTees]

They’re probably crazy too

[@Sneatt]

Everyone on that Jury needs to be charged with something or forced to pay compensation. idk how in the hell they can see all the evidence showing that the husband was 20 miles away and that there's absolutely no way in hell he could've murdered his wife, and still say he's guilty. Not only that but all of them just believed that outlandish story of how all of his friends were in on it, that they carried his phone to the bar and to the store to give him an alibi while he murdered his wife. HUH?!

[@williamwade3443]

How about Ambian in her moms system, 8 times the normal amount. The fact that the coroner said it was "accidental" proves the laziness in the officials.

[@Sneatt]

@@williamwade3443 100%

[@aquaseahorselove3939]

This is the first thing I thought of, too, but I’m sure there are laws to protect the jury even when they ruin a person’s life and let a murderer go free. I wish the jury for this case could be held accountable somehow. They royally screwed up. 😔

[@Questofthenight]

If I understood correctly the judge would not allow any implications against Pam to be heard by the jury. That’s why Russ was convicted. They didn’t hear all the evidence regarding Pam.

[@StrongandGrand]

@@Questofthenight Bingo. Joel Schwartz, Russ's lawyer, was completely left handicapped by this. He spent years getting Russ a new trial. Of course, since Pam killed a mentally handicapped man in a different county, the cops there actually did their job!

[@Justice-ef9sk]

"The thing about Pam" was really good. Renee Zellweger plays Pam Hupp. It's like a five/six-part series I think? I can't remember because it just auto-plays to the next episode for me. But anyway, it's on Peacock. If y'all haven't watched it, you should. It's really good.

[@loveforeignaccents]

I saw it on Hulu. Yeah, Renee really nailed the part and made you hate her!

[@cincin4515]

Renee Zellweger portrayed her perfectly.

[@princesabonita79]

Yikes, i wonder how many spouses have been convicted because they "weren't acting right" 😳😳😳

[@mmason9836]

Too many.

[@princesabonita79]

@@mmason9836 pretty scary.

[@tinab3627]

This case is very scary. She is as evil as they come. Watching the the dateline series, it’s so erie to imagine that it is a true story.