The Witcher 4 Controversy Is Ridiculous

[@Kintabl]

People are nuts. Now they are all shocked that in WItcher 4 we will not played as Geralt even if CDPR say million times that Wicher 3 is the last game with Geralt as a main character.

[@josephstalin5414]

Nuts? The people saying she looks like a man are so much worse.😂😂😂

[@kaloyanborisov7063]

no u baiting so hard, ppl are shocked because ciri is not a witcher neither is she a good fit for a protagonist in a witcher game considering her powers and the fact that 2outta 3 endings in the w3 lead up with her being an empress or dead ]

[@josephstalin5414]

@@kaloyanborisov7063 ☝️🤓 "get a life"

[@josephstalin5414]

@@kaloyanborisov7063 ☝️🤓 "get a life"

[@josephstalin5414]

@@kaloyanborisov7063 ☝️🤓 "get a life"

[@Pinguin2422]

Today everything needs to be hated. Disgusting world we live in

[@maxcy2890]

For me Ciri being the protagonist isnt even really an issue, I'd like to at least see what the explaination is for her undergoing the mutations and what story there is to tell with her after The Witcher 3. My main concerns are the World, gameplay and the Writing. My personal opinion, in both Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk 2077 the are moments where the games fall short and its either just a couple small details that overall dont really matter or its reason of state. Idk I'll just wait till this game releases and then decide weather or not to buy it, no game is really worth the preorder anymore and the one time i did it was Cyberpunk and we all know how that went day 1.

[@bhargvdas]

W3 Blood and Wine expansion, Geralt finds a laboratory that can give new mutations, the science is not lost, it is for the wolf school tho.

[@bhargvdas]

Also Witchers are difficult to look at as per the books. Considering that Ciri is fine.

[@Esm_Psevdonimov]

@@bhargvdas Creating a sword is not the same as upgrading a sword. Creating a mutant is not the same as upgrading a mutant.

[@markkipanga1933]

This controversy isn't taking off properly because most people don't know the lore and haven't finish w3.

[@rafegraves1453]

The school of the cat formula information was from a pen and paper game from 2001, it is fanfic. No cannon source says 1/10 girls survive or 3/10 boys survive. However when the books refer to the trials they say “children” rather than boys. There’s a few hints in the books that suggest they put girls through the trials. Ciri specific Al is noted as Triss as a Witcher girl but hasn’t yet been through the trial in one book. Also Uma’s trial of grasses quest has Eskel say stuff like “Ciri could be messed up if she survives the trial of grasses”. I’m not saying it isn’t possible, I’m on team Ciri. Just wanted to clear up that no canon source for the games or books outright says that there are female witchers or not, but some suggest that there is with no specific examples.

[@Marcinnol]

And also there is no such rule in the books that women cannot become witchers. In the books Geralt in a conversation with Triss says that Ciri's gender does not matter and that she is stronger than many of the other orphan boys who trained in kaer morhen.

[@JNVIII94]

These people are not witcher fans. If they were they would realise that the witcher video games 1-3 , all break the lore of the books😂 ciri looks brilliant, the trailer was badass .

[@antisbuster6296]

What? You can be a Witcher Fan while not enjoying the source material of the books. Many readers of the book do not enjoy the game and vise versa. I get what you're saying by calling them out to as bad actors, but saying they aren't Witcher fans based on them not realizing the books and the video games almost have zero connection is just a terrible argument. A better argument would have been "These bad actors forget that you literally play as Ciri in Witcher 3". But in my personal opinion, these were the worst parts of the game for me. I already oathed to never purchase another CDPR game, but making it about Ciri is what makes it even less interesting for me. Sorry not sorry, just didn't care for Ciri as a character in the video games.

[@wingedhussar1453]

No it was a ripoff of every other witcher game. Thats actualy what ciri comes off as a small geralt ripoff but even worse as she makes mistakes a witcher never would like .aking a crowd mob angry

[@legoshirocha]

Personally I don’t think Ciri in the cinematic as good as in The Witcher 3. Her face in W3 was too angelical for me and very beautiful. That’s just my only complaint so far since there’s not much info I’m just reserving my thoughts for the final result.

[@terrellthaddies7867]

@@wingedhussar1453 Wrong and u act like that they can't use older stuff as inspirations on top of the new story being crafted

[@nickbriggs8059]

Everyone defending this game are coping. Cope harder cause this is just the tip of the iceberg. 😂

[@Robert-zc5be]

The same people who complain Ciri couldn't/shouldn't have become a witcher would probably have no problem with a character creator in Witcher 4, which would allow everyone to create a random female witcher with no prior links to the profession. My guess: Ciri had immense Elder-blood power and everyone wanted to get her for it. She probably gave that power up, deciding to become a witcher instead. And the Elder blood increased her chances of surviving the trials.

[@alexisea8874]

my guess: Woke shit

[@Silentheaven89]

her elder blood is what makes her a source. in the dev trailer breakdown the dev says that in the scene where she draws power from the water running down the rock face shes pinned on and releases the electrics blast she is able to do that because shes a source which suggests she hasnt given that power up. so if she hasnt given up that power whats the point of becoming a witcher if witchers are ants compared to sources and sorceresses, signs are literally some of the weakest magic abilities that are meant to supplement a witchers sword play.

[@Robert-zc5be]

@@alexisea8874 Of course the game may end up being woke but saying that one of the signs of wokeness is making Ciri a witcher (which was suggested by the ending of Witcher 3 most people consider canonic) doesn't make sense.

[@wingedhussar1453]

More like its 2024 and are shoving ciri in because she a female

[@terrellthaddies7867]

@@wingedhussar1453 Wrong

[@MKroni1]

So my hot take, I actually completely support Ciri being the main character in Witcher 4. My only concern is they'll likely rewrite her character. I fear that we're going to lose the funny sarcastic and snippy version of Ciri and be replaced with a very emotional dramatic feminist.

[@maxcy2890]

I perfered her old voice in witcher 3 but ill keep an open mind about this.

[@reanschwarzer2187]

Yep exactly it’s not hate it’s pattern recognition waiting till review if you got woke bs I’m waiting for a sale assuming it’s still a good game mechanically

[@corneliusantonius3108]

@@maxcy2890 voices mature as persons get older

[@wingedhussar1453]

Thr a rewrite needs to happen to shove her to play as witcher means cdred shoved her in only because they wanted a female

[@st.anselmsfire3547]

No female protagonist has ever been made ugly on purpose. Even ones who are supposed to be disfigured (like Ciri) are still hot. The "men" who keep saying that these women are ugly on purpose clearly aren't familiar with what actual women look like. They need to go out, touch grass, whatever. It's especially great when you see guys like the freak from Geeks & Gamers ugly crying over stuff like this. That dude is in no position to call "anyone" ugly.

[@redred1952]

*Star Wars Outlaws has entered the chat*

[@alexisea8874]

woke shit

[@angrymoth2]

@@alexisea8874 very original; pasting multiple times.

[@gabrieleredin8076]

@@angrymoth2 these guys who think that everything with a woman is "woke" must be very sad. And gay too. 😂

[@reanschwarzer2187]

No tons of games have obviously made the women more unattractive it’s well documented even if you just look at it. Reality to much girl boss political agenda in gaming everyone with a brain is suspicious. Thats all it is pattern recognition if you will.

[@Keisarifi]

Triss literally says in the games that no woman has ever been subjected to the trial of grasses AND male sorcerers definately do exist. In fact, the first mage in the Last wish is a man

[@alexisea8874]

now we have this woke shit

[@gabrieleredin8076]

she said that no woman was subjected. not that it is impossible, you guys see "woke" in everything, go play the games and read the books and stop talking shit in social media.

[@Kyle-hv8ed]

@@alexisea8874 Woke = Woman. Apparently

[@angrymoth2]

@@TheCrain You're*

[@gabrieleredin8076]

@@TheCrain you are the one saying that they are not respecting the lore and i am talking shit? 😂😂😂.

[@loserhimself4044]

How to miss the entire point and fight with phantom monsters instead of adressing the litany of issues:

[@donavan34]

I cant wait theres only 2 other ppl than Geralt who should be the next playable either vesemir or ciri. Shes not ugly she's beautiful, im more upset they aren't using the same voice actress

[@richikbhattacharya463]

Sorcerers are a completely different group. Most of the gamers don't know that the main villain in the books is Vilgefortz, a male sorcerer. Moreover being a witcher is looed down upon in their world. Sorcerers on the other hand are much more well respected! The game fans don't understand this and think that the game developers are elevating Ciri to a girl boss type of character when in reality they are basically showing that Ciri choose this path of her own free will after being disgusted by the politics in the sorcery world. This was exactly where her character was going towards at the end of the Witcher books and is exactly what Sapowski would have wanted. Witcher 4 trailer is very accurate lore-wise. These fans just don't realise what the source material is about. The Witcher books are incredibly feminist in nature and they revolve areound Ciri. She is the main character in the books! Try reading them and then opine about this.

[@corneliusantonius3108]

I like mature looking women, I am 50 now.

[@crispycaptures]

The fact that I couldnt find much dizziness made me feel more alone and hopeless, this was nice thank you!

[@josephstalin5414]

Only dumb thing about that trailer is Ciri should have walked through that monster she's basically Witcher Gojo at this point.😂😂😂

[@Silentheaven89]

people complaining about her looks are dumb. the real criticism is the lore breaking fact that she is an actual witcher. it makes her sterile which ends the elder blood bloodline. shes also still a source confirmed by the dev doing the trailer breakdown. witchers are pipsqueaks compared to sources so how does that make her more powerful? so she basically downgraded her power and became infertile? make it make sense.

[@reanschwarzer2187]

Agreed except one section I’ll disagree the looks do matter again cinematic trailer ill reserve judgement but let’s not lie game devs have been constantly making female characters ugly. Even women are tired of it and would rather play as an attractive character.

[@terrellthaddies7867]

And they will make sense of it, once the game comes out and more information comes out

[@swiftzireael6731]

The people that don’t like the game because it’s about Ciri, and those who don’t like it because of how they made Ciri, are two different things.

[@GabrielVitor-kq6uj]

I dont even consider them as a large group, its just a minority, true witcher fans, book readers like myself, will find no problem in it, in fact I find it to be fitting. Ciri wanted that in the books it is said, but Geralt would never, at the past, let that happen. Things changed.

[@ChristopherSabol]

Bro, if they would’ve played blood and wine, they would’ve known they set it up, so Geralt would retire with your chosen romance, Triss or yen it’s literally the whole plot at the very end of the game and blood and wine

[@williamsteedman3717]

Everyone hates her, CD Project Red will be lucky if they can squeeze 4 billion dollars in sales out of Witcher 4. What losers.

[@lordfoul6259]

Ciri being one of the few women to become a witcher people we've seen a male version of this type of story very recently in fact let me think DUNE Paul Atreides was the only guy that survived drinking the water of life because of his lineage and his training now doesn't that sound familiar?

[@CerberusMalt]

To me, Ciri looks fine, I'm just confused as fuck as to her having the Witcher mutations and not being able to teleport. Is this an alternate reality Ciri possibly? It's too late to just take the Trial of the Grasses since only adolescents can survive the process.

[@centrolewus203]

Remember she have the elder blood. This could give her advantage, OOOOR someone did a better job with Alzur (Creator of Witchers) formula

[@alexisea8874]

woke shit plot

[@blayzih]

​@@alexisea8874brother you reply with "woke" to basically every comment you have issues

[@wingedhussar1453]

Its 2024 so gota shove a women in even though it don't make sense

[@Outright__]

@@centrolewus203 Even in cutscenes she’ll use her powers do dodge physical trauma like arrows

[@fir3fly207]

Sure someone beat me to it buuuttt. Geralt didn't give her his sword but had one specially made for her that the name translates to swallow. They symbolism is still there and stuff just customer sword for her vs his own.

[@DylanJones-h7m]

If any "Witcher fans" take the time to read the Witcher books, they'll realize the books are about Ciri more than Geralt. They'll fall in love with the Ciri character, and they'll be hyped for this game. Also, the games don't directly follow the books. I read the books first, and that didn't make me hate the games. If they did, Ciri would be OP. Ciri the canonical "Witcher girl" will make a excellent Witcher.

[@alecaquino4306]

What's frustrating is that there IS a legitimate problem with DEI in games today but people are immediately lumping this game into that category when it really isn't the case. I think that the Witcher 4 trailer looked incredible and I can't wait to play as Ciri. She's the natural successor to Geralt and CDPR has been saying for years that Witcher 3 would be the conclusion of Geralt's story. I agree with your take 100%!

[@reanschwarzer2187]

Look you have to assume we can rescind it after the game is out and we have reviews until then suspicion is warranted.

[@alecaquino4306]

@reanschwarzer2187 I'd like to give this one the benefit of the doubt and wait to see the final product before condemning it outright. If the game is bad and full of DEI nonsense, then I'll be very vocal about my disappointment.

[@reanschwarzer2187]

@@alecaquino4306 right I’m just saying where gamers are at I’m hopeful it won’t be full of politics but I will remain suspicious until reviews come out.

[@alecaquino4306]

@@reanschwarzer2187 That's fair. I think we both want the same thing in the end. You are right to be skeptical. The whole DEI movement has done so much damage to the video game industry as a whole and I am just hoping that things will get back on track before they get any worse.

[@reanschwarzer2187]

@ I think it will start to but remember how long video game development takes this was in development during peak girl boss, BLM, covid and all the other bs so hopefully it’ll be out like 2026 or later and if they have any of that they can correct it.

[@Paladin-1982]

Everything you said was on point, also think that Cirilla's new model looks great, but the second point that complainers are complaining about, is not Cirilla as a new protagonist by itself, complaints are about Cirilla as a full fledged mutated witcher, because she never undergone through process of trials. Devs said in the interviews that players will remember what its like to become full fledged witcher in W4 Also they plan to connect ending of the W3 with start of W4.. Guess cult mindset is strong on both sides ;)

[@gabrieleredin8076]

liked the new voice, i think it suits her. I always wanted a game with ciri, she is the best possible choice in my opinion, even more than Geralt. Geralt's story ended perfectly, is the same thing as lord of the rings, when tolkien started writing a new story after the ring was destroyed he gave up, because it would ruin everything, the story begins, and ends... Another dark lord and all that stuff again and again would take out the magic of it, the same goes for Geralt, his story is already told, ciri's has a huge potencial and a lot of possibilities, discard all of that just to another Geralt adventure... Would be disapointing to say the least. And about the ending... Geralt is a already stated character, he has personality, values, principles, he is not like V for instance... So if you analise the witcher 3 story, there there is some things that geralt would never do... And the things that he does to get the other 2 endings he definitely wouldn't do it. i like the fact that they keep some things canon, because they are what Geralt would do, and how the world would be shaped and how things would have worked if the game din't let you choose. The Witcher 3 will still be there and you can do the role-play you want, but in the canon line, some things need to be removed. The whole witcher story is about ciri wanting to be free, to be a witcher, she think's that her powers are a curse, both her's and geralt's, even yen's dream are to see her free, as a witcher or as anything she wants to be. She hates her father and the idea to be a empress, and geralt would never be a dick to her and made her feel like a burden to everyone at the point that she leaves the world never to comeback again... Faking her death to emhyr and setting her free were always the plan, they even talk about this, Ciri always says that she just wanted to be free... Anyway, the only thing i care right know is that i really want to play this game.

[@robertgosz4281]

People don't hate Ciri. They don't like Geralt with Ciri face.

[@alaskacpu]

Awesome

[@ryanzod6986]

I would love it if the game had flashbacks to events from the books. Ciri has a lot of lore from the Novels. Like it would be so cool If Leo Bonhart appeared. Would be so cool to fight him in a flashback scene.

[@ShimkaStelka]

People who talk about woke here cope pretty hard, they literally ignored whole Ciri story building in w3 and one of the endings where she ends as Witcher, on top of that devs said that she passed the mutations somewhere between w3 and w4 so it will be most likely explained in w4 story how did it happen. And talking about her looks it's another weird take, like not taking into consideration that she is probably much older now and battle hardened, so she won't look like some perfect doll ready for a dance. In the end you should take into account it's a game and most of it if I'm not wrong take place long past what was in books.

[@kristapsrutkovskis5561]

Ciri is simply too OP to function as a protagonist in the witcher universe. Her elder blood powers would make most thtreats a non issue. And the for the whole of the witcher 3 she is actively working to develop her powers. Like when she had little control over her powers and could go berserk at any point, large groups of humans already posed next to no threat to her cause she could just teleport between them. And imagine how much more OP she will have become after the end of the witcher 3 And if they make her loose the abikilities somehow... well for me it would just feel like a copout

[@kristapsrutkovskis5561]

Neither her nor Geralt should be the protagonist. I think it would have been much better if Ciri was a supporting character and we followed the story of one of the students of the School of the Lynx, maybe even Ciris first female student and they could tackle how women are handled in the witcher universe as a whole and draw paraleles to our world

[@fajarsidiq8773]

Ciri deserves to be main character...

[@Joksa999]

Im not against ciri but im not pro either She is kinda to op with her abillitys yes she hast to be careful with them and cant use them all the time but the hero who has to learn to controll their powers and everyone is after them is kinda overused

[@Joksa999]

Also.... Just ask the Autor of the books and do the game accordingly Edit: i would say they can do a good Job but with a character Like Siri they need a whole more effort with abilitys and mechanics and lore because of her elder blood and abilitys she has from that

[@e.l.i8993]

funniest thing is that if they did play the witcher games. then they would know off rip that the games has its own lore canon in differentiation to the books. They always were different and any witcher centric content creator and online forum would always say well the book lore vs the game lore. Even some say the book should get actual tie in games cuz they are that different. you dont play the game events in the games and some of the lore dont exist in the games. As an example not all monsters take damage from only silver weapons that is only 2 type of monsters. Also just one potion is enough to put a witcher on their ass out of commission once it wears off. Not to mention a half dead fully adult elven dude went through the trials and survived no issue wrong with him within the games. If this was a massive issue you would see ppl pissing themselves back in 2015 when that ending was a thing, thing is that it was actually a very popular choice.

[@MIGITO]

The gay dude thinks it's ridiculous. Shocker

[@duke_revna6404]

If youre a really big defender of the books even all the games are fanfic, since the author just sold the license and never seemed to work with the team. He didnt believe in the success of the games and concentrated on his writing, which I can respect - somebody that writes Ice and Fire wont ever finish those cuz of the side stuff hes doing. ;D

[@achillespullo5761]

Just dont wanna play as ciri..I get it, it's the story line but meh

[@msf47]

If u have played the witcher 3 u would know Ciri always wanted to become witcher .Now my concern is how they are going to make her a witcher considering there are no witchers left that know how to do the witcher trials or how did she survived the trials and on top of that Ciri is the most powerful character in this universe why would she become a witcher .........lot of questions .

[@gengiskhal2366]

Ciri’s narrative exists solely to frame Geralt’s humanity, a mirror for his patriarchal, fatherly archetype-a supporting role rather than a truly independent character. The fix seems obvious: take a page from Larian's playbook in BG3, offering origin characters alongside a customizable protagonist. Sounds straightforward, right? But execution requires real skill-a quality sometimes overshadowed in modern game development by prioritizing box-checking over raw talent... (something gay devs lack).

[@richikbhattacharya463]

Nonsense! Try reading the books! Ciri is the main character in the later books. The plot revolves around her.

[@gengiskhal2366]

@richikbhattacharya463 1.The Witcher mean Male Witch. "er" is a masculine suffix. 2. No female being a Witcher. 3. Ciri is too old for the trial. 4. She already has her own power set. Her doing signs don't make any sense because Geralt and co tried to teach her and she could never do it. She also can teleport but in the trailer she can't. 5. This game breaking the lore. 6. This Ciri is just DEI Geralt

[@dr_diddy]

@@gengiskhal2366 "DEI Geralt" >Main character who ends her story calling herself a witcheress. I'm not going to insult you, I think watching anti-woke youtubers has caused some anger or annoyance. You like games and I think you should play things you enjoy. Ignore things that raise your blood pressure. Perhaps listen to music or replaying BG3 again would bring joy, If you like watching streams or want background noise cohhcarnage is a great positive guy. If you like TW3 I hope gameplay of TW4 will look good to you enough to seperate for those ideals, I wish you the best my friend.

[@gengiskhal2366]

@dr_diddy My problem transcends consumption for fun in these matters... I wonder ... Is Ciri destined to be the moral crusader of *The Witcher* world-calling out every instance of racism, dueling every injustice, and defying every established social order? Will she wield her sword and elder blood as a champion of causes that, by nature, lie beyond the traditionally indifferent role of a witcher? Or will she embrace the path of a true witcher-walking the neutral line, killing monsters for coin, and shedding the ideals of her royal upbringing, even if that means stepping out of her own skin as *Ciri*? It’s a fascinating tension: the "real witcher" archetype demands stoic detachment, but that’s *precisely* what seems so alien to Ciri's character. Unlike Geralt, who was shaped by the Path and wears neutrality like battered armor, Ciri’s sense of identity was forged in chaos-by trauma, by her lineage, and by her yearning to belong to something greater than fate’s cruelty. She cannot be *just* a witcher. Nor can she ever truly sever her connection to who she was before she picked up a sword. Which makes me wonder: how would she have handled the Bloody Baron in Geralt’s stead? Would her actions echo Geralt's pragmatic patience, listening to the Baron’s broken confession and navigating his messy redemption arc with a witcher’s trademark neutrality? Or would Ciri-fiery, indignant Ciri-lash out at the Baron’s failures, shaking the very foundations of his fragile reckoning? Perhaps that’s the rub: where Geralt acts as a mirror to the world, Ciri is often a catalyst for change. She *is* the storm, after all. Her struggle will always be between following the Path of the witcher and honoring the fierce, empathetic part of her that refuses to let the world’s injustices go unchallenged. Whether that’s her strength or her downfall depends on how the story chooses to wield her.

[@kjh4096]

I'm so fucking excited to play this. Outside of delusional people, I think a lot of comments come from confusion and wanting to know the answers right now. Some patience is defiantly needed for some they're not gonna give you all the information in one trailer it should build a positive discussion in the community to theorize not fight each other over.

[@asingha94]

She's perfectly fine. Look wise & the continuation of story wise

[@lloydfromfar]

To confuse your MAGA friends who hates on Ciri and Woke gaming (on game they don't even play), just say "but at least she's white"! With some chance, that might induce thought paralysis... :P

[@MaDmanx6666]

GREAT JOB!

[@Mrlighthouse1000]

Ever heard of pattern recognition? we know why Ciri's design has changed, we know why this trailer retconned the lore, and we know about CDPR DEI practices

[@HotDog-yf2je]

Such a shame. Witcher game on ue5 had so much potential. Now its just going to be about educating people about the patriarchy and the power of women

[@wingedhussar1453]

Bro nobody wanna play ciri for 100 hours. She comes off as angry and not even how a witcher acts like

[@swede7581]

ciri was my 1st though that would be the main character already at the info we got about the game witcher 4 was going to be made way back...ciri just works..it could have been something that wasnt even working and really horrible..But i dont get why people are complaining on ciri..."looks bad?? whaaat?) Some people just love to complain i think...but on the otherhand every one cant be happy"i am atleast so im fine LOL!".. Thanks 4 video

[@babayaga3520]

Just go with Character Creation Option So sick of these dei girl boss flops Come to think of it sweet baby inc has been involved In basically every flop in recent memory

[@TheRealSladeValentine]

males become witchers, women become sorcerers sure sherlock, guess we all collectively dreamed up the elven mage hunted in witcher 3 also... Brotherhood of Sorcerer's anyone?... Alzur? Ortolan? Idarran? Sorel?... yeh, hard L here

[@borjaslamic]

There are a shit ton of male sorcerers in the Witcher, books and games. Don't be stupid

[@Outright__]

@@borjaslamic lodge of sorcerers is all women, always a sense of sisterhood with the sorcerers in the Witcher. You wouldn’t be able to name a male sorcerer without reading the books; maybe that one couple you save w triss at the end of her plotline. It makes sense unless you’re heavily western. Stereotypically let the boys undergo the more dangerous path, women take the lesser and safer one.

[@TheRealSladeValentine]

@@borjaslamic its hard to read isnt it

[@MaxMisdirection]

Game looks dumb as hell, Ciri did not do the trials. Merely looking at the director of the game tells you everything you need to know. Bottom line no Geralt no sale.

[@Kds4547]

The question I have is how is the game going to deal with the adult themes and relationships known for in the series? Most male players probably aren’t going to be ok with men flirting with ciri the way yennifer did with geralt.

[@ryanzod6986]

Ciri is bi so there will be both female and male romance options most likely. Plus I got no problem if a badass giga Chad wants to sleep with Ciri if he is a cool character.

[@Kds4547]

@ so my choices is to either roleplay as gay or lesbian? No thanks. Gay is gay no matter how cool someone is.

[@Kds4547]

@ ciri being bi also only affects romance options controlled by the player. It doesn’t address flirtatious content in mission cutscenes.

[@Kds4547]

@ something tells me you’d also be ok if gigs Chad slept it’s you if you thought he was a cool character. Not everyone is gay like you bruh…

[@walther2492]

@@Kds4547 Go touch some grass.

[@noxluxe8674]

Pfff. People are just sick and tired of beloved male protagonists being supplanted by uber-overpowered girlbosses who can do no wrong, and being called misogynists for saying so. To my mind, it was a mistake for Ciri's first cinematic trailer to show her in a very Geralt-like dour rescuer situation. Ciri is a lot more warm-hearted and socially engaged than he is. Would have been a lot nicer to get the sense that we we'll be playing HER, and not just "Geralt is a badass chick who can do better magic now. Deal with it." Personally I have faith in CDProject Red not to have gone down the woke rabbithole, even if I didn't particularly enjoy this trailer or Ciri in it. But definitely can't blame anyone for being gun-shy and skeptical of the whole project, considering what's happened to pretty much ever major franchise people loved ten years ago. Maybe wait and see before you call them stupid and irrational over it? Also, a big character-related moment in an early book is that the herbs and hormones involved with the Witcher preparations for the Trial of the Grasses hyper-stimulate young boys' physiologies, and actually mess with girls' ability to develop into women. Taking that logic to its conclusion, a grown woman trying to go through the same regimen would border on attempted gender transition. The idea of the games retroactively adding in a huge mass-murder of little girls to experiment and figure out how to make women witchers for no obvious reason in order to shoehorn in a female witcher protagonist has always been a controversial subject with all sorts of nuances.

[@jebalimazen1809]

I like Ciri, I truly do, but sometimes it feels like these production companies are simply trying to replace men with femalized character of some sort to do their job, the path of witcher is simply made for men since their bodies are capable to endure more pain than females, even though Ciri can use her sword just like a witcher does, I don't think she can handle the trail of grass. Ciri is indeed powerful with the elder blood of hers but to pass the trail of grass that only 3 of 10 men can pass! it just doesn't feel right. I know that geralt won't be the main character of new witcher game but I was hoping to play with another male witcher from different school maybe or something similair, or even playing with Ciri along with her own elder blood abilities (maybe got enhanced with time) just like the previous game.

[@swiftzireael6731]

The games were set up for Ciri being the new protagonist in the first place. It isn’t “woke” because of this. That’s where we disagree. If we see a female Masterchief, that’s where we should worry.

[@Outright__]

@@swiftzireael6731 It’s the execution of Ciri that worry’s me. I would never expect Ciri to be a genetic Witcher or not use her powers to slay a monster. Plus her model is dire. Lore breaking and appearance changes, both symptoms of woke.

[@swiftzireael6731]

@ Famous voice actors for iconic characters like Kratos, Geralt, Masterchief, and Batman are irreplaceable. When you write a character that fans get attached to like these, simply changing their voice actors is enough to throw fans off. In this case, the downwards spiral of features they added that just weren’t Ciri has got to be studied. Every time I hear “New Saga” I think what, fuck the old plot now?

[@jebalimazen1809]

@@swiftzireael6731 I agree, I just hope they preserve Ciri as a personality

[@Molldoran]

@ItsYahBoiDonnie you are a naive optimist.

[@NickWolfson-pm4do]

See mate, it's not that Ciri looks bad (though I personally dislike her model in the cinematic), it's that she talks and acts like a typical Abby-like gigachad girlboss9000, and not like a well-known and loved character from the previous game. In addition, her witcher powers make zero sense lore-wise. Also, there are 3 endings in TW3, I guess CDPR just decided to follow Bioware's path and ignore our precious choices (I know that basically none of our choices from TW1 or TW2 mattered in TW3, but still).

[@prasunmajumder8792]

My man read the book do not go for Wikipedia coz bunch of dei woke journalist are constantly changing and writing there just like Yasuke a legendary samurai in ASC game . I have zero issue with CIRI , in fact i loved the character in Witcher 3 but all of sudden CDPR have to put her in a witcher game so they changed her 360 degree and made a witcher that cannot be digested . In books only kid ( male ) can go through the trial to become a witcher and chances are 3 out of 10 and female body cannot go through that much pain simply because of their genetic , still if I agree with you that women can be witcher and can go through the trial but the question is how the hell ciri completed that in her mid 30 and that is the biggest question I have . The Devs might explain that in the game but I highly doubt any explanation will be enough the prove that is possible and that is where I suspect DEI ESG shit that women can do anything and even better than man concept.

[@walther2492]

Concerning the ‘women can’t be witchers’ thing - dunno how it looks like in the english translation, but in our original polish one there is absolutely no mention that witchers consist solely of males. Sapkowski - the author of the Witcher books - never denied their existence either when it comes to other Witcher related media either. The 2003 ttrpg game - Witcher - the game of Imagination, stated that the School of the Cat trained women as well, while the original tv series from 2002 outright featured a female witcher character - Adele. Sapkowski never criticised those. Lastly, there is a quote from Triss after she meets young Ciri training in Kaer Morhen: “You didn’t subject Ciri to violent mutations, you didn’t tamper with hormones, nor did you experiment with elixirs and the Trial of the Grasses. And for that, you are to be commended. It was reasonable, responsible, and humane." So it is implied that girls being subjected to the Trials IS possible; it simply wasn’t done.

[@prasunmajumder8792]

@@walther2492 i also said that but my question is how it is possible when a human is in his/her mid 30 to go through trials , don't you think some bizarre idea involve in this . Again i have zero issue with the character and i will love play Ciri as main protagonist but not as a witcher coz that is not possible to me somehow .

[@walther2492]

@@prasunmajumder8792 Elder Blood. The magic which the sorcerers used to create the mutations is partly based on Elder Magic. But we will see what CDPR will come up with.

[@prasunmajumder8792]

@@walther2492 same thing but the reason is gonna be made up and out of the book i guess XD

[@walther2492]

@@prasunmajumder8792 Well, the games are book inspired and not directly based on them. Many things in the W1, W2 and W3 never happend at all in the books, while other things got rewritten to make sense in a video game. Like Jacksons Lord of the Rings movies are different than the books, because you simply can't convert books into an other form of media without changing the underlying narrative. Otherwise the Witcher games would be a 500 hours long kinetic novel which noone ever would have played.