The Women that Killed and got Praised for it on TikTok: Isabella Guzman and Claire Miller

[@FrodoLuver1]

This unfortunately isn’t just a Gen Z thing. People have been romanticizing serial killers and mass murders for a very long time and it probably isn’t going to stop any time soon….

[@KJ-fm2sl]

yeah, people have literally married incarcerated killers,,, they really be out there doing the most.

[@FrodoLuver1]

@@KJ-fm2sl It’s insane

[@alyssabrooke74]

yeah i remember hearing that girls would send pictures of themselves to Ted Bundy and Richard Ramirez and like confess their love or sum to them💀

[@syd811]

I’ll never understand WHY tho!! How could ppl romanticize them?

[@KJ-fm2sl]

@@syd811 probably a misguided sense that they can “fix” them or possibly they romanticize a situation in which they are the only person a killer actually likes and will not kill

[@akuugawa6914]

“why is it that every teenager with homicidal tendencies watches anime” , HAILEY PLS I PROMISE WE’RE NOT ALL LIKE THAT

[@SG-nc8xj]

not every teenager who watches anime is a murderer, but every teenage murderer watches anime

[@SJTJ]

So you have homicidal tendencies but don’t watch anime? Or you watch anime but don’t have homicidal tendencies?

[@PastelKidd]

We ( Anime fans ) aren't.. Plently of normal everyday people are just as messed up. At the end of the day it's the person who does it, not their interests.

[@KingOfGaymes]

@@SG-nc8xj Jeffrey Dahmer watched anime? That’s news

[@PastelKidd]

@@Cari24Mann Uhm.. That's absurd. Even then, anime is not the catalyst for their behavior.

[@laiba6545]

"She killed people? Thats hot." I have lost faith in humanity

[@anonrox]

man, you had faith to begin with? yikes

[@Zulf85]

Just wait until you hear about Ted Bundy

[@danielleoldfield5952]

I lost faith in humanity when I first stared watching crime programs which is more years than I would like to admit :)

[@quinsrevenge]

uh

[@TehXilee]

they did that shit with the night stalker of LA too

[@rhondalee133]

Schizophrenia is not caused by abuse . You can have a perfect childhood and still get schizophrenia.

[@megangilmore]

the whole part on schitzophrenia was just so wrong 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@noellebarnes6826]

yes! I had a great childhood for the most part and I still ended up with it. I was sad to see the misinformation

[@mentholcum]

i agree. i don’t have schizophrenia but i do hate that it’s always synonymous with violence. when i speak about it i will only say things i know for a fact are true, usually based off the few friends i have that deal with it and what they talk about experiencing, too many people are misjudged because of these mental illnesses and it isn’t fair to them.

[@lyriabubbles2867]

People with schizophrenia are actually so much more likely to be the VICTIMS of violence that it’s sad.

[@lindadolton3160]

Schizophrenia is definitely a physical disease. Not one that comes from mental trauma. That was disappointing.

[@zuhavcr]

thinking about these two situations feels like such a fever dream. the fact that the internet was in love with these girls and so forgiving of them feels unreal. absolutely BONKERS!

[@zuhavcr]

these are the same people that go off on any influencer that makes any small mistake but will make fancams of "cute" m*rderers 📸😐

[@piffba]

It’s SO weird. Like, the one guy that killed a mom and her baby and people started a go-fund-me because they thought “he was too cute for jail” and “he didn’t mean to, he was just speeding!!” Or something

[@ratstanduser]

Exactly it’s insane! The fact that the internet was praising them and saying they should be let go because there “cute” is disgusting.

[@zuhavcr]

@@piffba OH LOOORDT that whole case pisses me off. "didn't mean to" my fat ASS 😐 so disgusting how forgiving people are when the culprit is "pretty." it's always happening. like lives were lost, families lost a member & you're FAWNING over the criminal?? 😵‍💫

[@zuhavcr]

@@ratstanduser i h8 that it's always been like this even before social media was a thing. even courts are more lenient with generically attractive people. it makes me sick to my stomach!

[@ouchnami]

Isabella possessed this “super human strength” bc it’s a known fact that when your mad your 10 times stronger then you actually are

[@420bb]

Makes sense like when people are on pcp it takes 4 grown men to hold them down you always have that strength it just takes something to bring it out. So it makes sense that when your mad you can be stronger with the adrenaline and such.

[@oof1448]

u mean an adrenaline rush?

[@antiquevase3451]

When I'm mad I get weak and just breakdown lol I hate it

[@yurmomsie]

@@antiquevase3451 same or i start to shake which makes me look kinda crazy :/

[@quinnmallory9025]

@@yurmomsie that happens to everyone it’s called a human reaction

[@tyobtyob6826]

I think Isabella deserves the scars on her hands. It'll be a forever reminder to what she did. Hope it haunts her for the rest of her life. Killing your parents is in such a personal way, is so tragic.

[@horadeaventuras521]

I think it is good that she did not forget what she did, but we must also understand that she was sick and, although this does not justify what she did, she is a person who needed treatment. Let's hope that if she comes out, she goes on with her life without hurting anyone else.

[@tyobtyob6826]

@@horadeaventuras521 I don't believe she's sick. I think she's faking. Unless she was abused before the age of 7. These people are very good at faking. They know how to act, and what to say. If she is sick, then yes, I hope she gets the desperate and proper help she needs. I just don't really believe her. Sorry.

[@horadeaventuras521]

@tyob tyob Makes sense, there really isn't much evidence to support that she was really abused in childhood. The only strange thing was that a 7-to-10-year-old girl aguments so frequently with her parents but that's not indicative of anything.

[@tyobtyob6826]

@@horadeaventuras521 She could've been acting like a brat because of her parents divorce. Anger and constantly wanting attention. Ultimately resulting in her killing her mom.

[@tyobtyob6826]

Just a theory.

[@zawmbified]

To me, murder is only every justified if you're defending yourself from being harmed yourself. Isabella was not defending herself. Isabella killed her mother when her mother was in a vulnerable state when she was going to have a shower. No one is expecting to be brutally murdered while they're doing something as simple as having a shower. The people obsessing over her are absolutely disgusting. They're completely overlooking the severity of the situation just because they find her pretty. People can be pretty and be a shitty person. Being pretty does not justify her actions and it doesn't even matter in this situation. She brutally murdered her own mother and that's all that should matter. If you find her physical appearance attractive, then whatever, but if you find what she did attractive then you genuinely need to seek help.

[@joltyflare]

The fact that someone would murder their own mother of all people saddens me. It's just heartbreaking to think about.

[@elleimo]

@@joltyflare Especially since her mother barely did anything wrong. Isabella was just unhappy that they weren’t rich and had schizophrenia causing her to think that, by killing her mom, she was saving the world. But her mom didn’t really give her a reason herself.

[@hotsexyangel]

preach

[@LimeIsTheName]

There was this girl in Japan who stabbed someone. People found her cute and called her a real life “yandere”. I think people also paid for her bail. Edit: (9/23) The girl I'm talking about is Yuka Takaoka, 21 (Japan). In 2019, she was arrested because she used a kitchen knife to stab her boyfriend. She became famous from a photo that was taken of her. In the picture, Yuka is sitting on the ground talking on the phone and smoking a cigarette meanwhile her boyfriend is bleeding out on the floor beside her. A KZbinr named "The Anime Man" or Joey did a video about this and talks about it in more detail. "Nevada-tan" is an 11 year old girl, Natsumi Tsuji, who murdered her class mate (also in Japan) in 2004. She became famous because in photo of her she is wearing a University of Nevada, Reno sweatshirt. KZbinr "ReignBot" did a more comprehensive history of the case if you wanna know more, what I wrote is just the basics.

[@beatrice8821]

I remember Joey talking about this

[@tishaprnucedteasha]

another case in japan was that this young gurl (she was like 11) stabbed her "best friend" due to an online arguement and when her phito was realesed ppl called her "nevada-chan" (she was wearing a nevada college jumper) as she was cute its super weird

[@heezypeasy8611]

Omg that is horrible!

[@keiorie]

oo yeah nevada-tan right? it's just so unsettling how people can glorify murder

[@lov3emm44]

i remember seeing that like :/ that is so disrespectful to the people who’s loved one was hurt and to the person harmed. some people istg

[@Dr.Bitch_Craft]

Mental illness and abuse is an explanation for why someone would do the things they do but it’s never an excuse. Explanation, yes. Excuse, no.

[@miaironstone6783]

People often miss that, they think taking any time to understand or explain why a crime happened means that you excuse it and think it’s ok. Like sorry but random acts of completely unprompted evil are insanely rare. And understanding crimes can possibly help prevent them. But the person who did it still committed an unforgivable crime, even under tragic circumstances that doesn’t change and they’ve still earned the consequences

[@joannalynch1109]

I always say to others "explanation does not equal excuse" There are many reasons why someone will do something, but even if it's a "good" explanation it doesn't automatically get a free pass. Just because she's cute, doesn't excuse her mothers shredded face.

[@miaironstone6783]

@@joannalynch1109 yeah I don’t think how she looks should factor in at all. A pretty face didn’t push her to kill someone, the abuse might be related, but it’s sick how far people will go to excuse or sympathize with pretty people, but if she was an average looking or ugly girl everyone would see it for the horrible situation it is

[@ashleyday766]

that’s actually not true. mental illness is not an explanation for violence, this is what the media gets mixed up and why mental illness tends to get stigmatized. those struggling with mental illness tend to be victims of violence not perpetrators; killing is a conscious choice especially when premeditated like in isabella’s case.

[@ashleyday766]

we can recognize that someone had mental illness and had gone through abuse and then also decided to murder someone, but many people who have gone through similar experiences and have similar illnesses do not make the choice to kill.

[@ppuddlingquack]

insane that the paramedics weren't called immediately when claire told the police she had quite literally stabbed her sister...

[@BubbleBunnyy]

That’s what I was thinking they should have been rushed over immediately

[@mabelccr1000]

I think it's cause you're always suppose to call the cops first

[@leiajiang7877]

I hate it when parents play favoritism and force kids to hate eachother. I hate my brother and i say a majority of it is my parents fault. Like from a young age she cared more about my brother because he has asthma i wasn't allow to be sad or sick because i have to be the healthy strong good one. When i was a teen i was told it's my fault that my brother hits me and it's my fault for making him angry. He was allowed to threaten me and get away with it. And He stole my Xbox poured water on me said i deserve a beating. My mom just asked me: "what do you want me to do about it?". And she wonders Why i hate him and won't forgive him.

[@Anthony.and.Bigsis]

Huh

[@Ellron23]

@@leiajiang7877 you have shitty parents. They may be ok in some aspects, and hopefully you still love them. But know they are incompetent.

[@crayons1584]

Isabella's case always gave me chills. Sometimes we can sympathize with people who murder, not justify them, but at least try to understand why they did what they did. But what Isabella did was heartless. She could have just moved out and left her parents if she hated them so much, but she just decided to brutally murder her own mother with no sign of guilt. Such a sad case.

[@that1afghannn]

yeah but what if her mother and father were abusive? what if her mother didnt let her move out? understand that some people have horrible parents sometimes

[@paidendenae]

@@that1afghannn yeah that's valid but her father had literally talked about her being close to turning 18...regardless of if her parents might have been abusive, she could legally leave. and yeah it would probably be hard to go survive on her own but if she was really abused, struggling as a young adult always outweighs severe abuse

[@whoreforcaffeine]

She could've called the police if she was being abused but doing this was just not right imo

[@gabyflores4516]

​@@that1afghannn regardless, stealing the life of someone the way that she did is digusting. No one deserves to die in that manner. absolute disregard for human life is not acceptable

[@kait6862]

@@that1afghannn she was 18 at the time, it doesn't matter what the mom says, Isabella could jus dip because she's a legal adult. And if they were abusive, how does tht explain her killing? People have horrible parents, yes, tht doesn't justify Isabella's killing.

[@glenyk6487]

The fact that Isabel waited until her mother was in a relaxed and vulnerable state to attack her is petrifying. She had full intentions to get rid of her mom.

[@paidendenae]

yeah its absolutely terrifying. i cannot begin to imagine the fear her mother must've been living in. to be in danger in your own home, from your own child is heartbreaking, i truly hope her soul got the peace she needed

[@kelsorangejoe-nh3to]

@@paidendenae didnt her mom pimp her out to random men? i swear people literally said the reason why she killed her mother was the amounts of times she got sexually abused by the men that the mother would pimp her out to

[@lauralaurentino8935]

the only consistent thing in my life rn are hailey’s videos every friday

[@snail4sale560]

no rlly omg

[@jae5251]

literally ‼️

[@m3nhy]

🤣🤣 dying for this!!! Best comment ever

[@choicethetaurus]

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[@earfquake3989]

@@choicethetaurus Probably the last Time I click on a random link....Ngl this was kinda good

[@cattytheartcat]

Honestly this isn't that uncommon as there's literal fangirls/boys of Ted Bundy, Jeffery Dahmer, and even the Columbine Shooting killers. Its still fucked up imo like that's just. Yuck.

[@cattytheartcat]

@Kerstin Mueller yeah, my heart goes out to the victims as well. Although the result of the killing was intense bullying, its still not an excuse. The killers had the choice in getting therapy, but they chose the easy way out. Humanity is fucked up man

[@ahlinad1221]

Richard Ramirez too, people were sending him letters

[@cattytheartcat]

@@ahlinad1221 oh yeah! I forgot about that bastard. That's a big ol yikes from me tho

[@user-yx3mx3xr6n]

Nikolas Cruz and Cameron Herring also had fangirls. Disgusting ones.

[@petalsarefalling]

​@@cattytheartcat Anyone who thinks that Bullying was what caused the result- they are only ignoring the real problem and blaming the victims. I have seriously seen people say that school shooting victims deserved it for being a bully. (If you can watch a few interviews with Survivors they will speak about how the shooter was already more of a bully to their peers than the other way around) Boys aren't taught how to cope with their emotions- they are taught to just 'suck it up' this causes a lot of young boys and men to have serious untreated mental illnesses or other emotional disturbances. This is the fault of parents perpetuating a stupid ideology- Counselors not stepping in to change it. Teachers not pushing for emotional learning in early years. Men and boys' mental health is something that is only cared about once they are already dead or in jail. The other problem is the lack of gun control, guns aren't going to go away and that's not what gun control means. Just means that you shouldn't be able to use your student ID to buy a gun. (Yes that is a thing) People who are showing signs of being a danger to themselves or others shouldn't be allowed to obtain military grade weapons or automatic pistols/rifles. Not being able to own guns so close to a school (Brenda Spencer) Point is- saying bullying caused a shooting to happen is Victim blaming and blaming CHILDREN Parents, Law Makers, Doctors, and Teachers are the only ones who can bring a real solution to the table- but that would require them to take responsibility

[@ThatlilrayofSunshine]

Just a friendly reminder: No matter how loving and supportive your parents are, you can still develop a lot of homicidal and suicidal tendencies. These things do not depend solely on your family's influence on you. But also on your personality as well as your genetics. In conclusion, just because you come from a loving family, it doesn't mean you're wrong by feeling alone. Of course, I'm not justifying what she did, it was wrong, and it should be punished. Just thought I'd put this out here because abuse isn't the only thing that turns you into a murderer.

[@jocelynborden1017]

!!!!!!!!!

[@alexevans2011]

Absolutely. And while I completely understand the reason behind people who are homicidal never really getting help and being treated as murderers even if they’ve never harmed someone sucks. When I was a late teenager/very early twenties I definitely had issues with homicidal thoughts. I knew it was bad obviously but it’s the same with knowing that suicide is bad. You find ways to justify it to yourself. I just wish that the same degree of help offered to suicidal people is also given to homicidal people because if you haven’t done any crime I don’t think that having urges you can’t control is worthy of being treated as if you did the crime. Even for pedophiles. They’re the worst people alive but pedos that have harmed children and pedos that haven’t should be treated differently. Not good but not as bad as those that have actually hurt people. Idk I just know that I had to spend a lot of time to figure out where the homicidal tendencies were coming from and how to get them to go away. It was quite honestly very difficult and I didn’t handle it in quite the healthiest way considering I just self harmed instead of hurting others. It makes me wish that there were some sort of resources out there for people who don’t want to deal with it but don’t know how to not have those feelings because it’s so much easier to deal with if there are people that know and are there to support you in getting away from that mindset.

[@ThatlilrayofSunshine]

@@alexevans2011 I agree, I believe support should be for everyone no matter the circumstances, and as a teen myself, I think that there's not enough support from people around us, I deal, but not everyone does, and when things go down and there's no one or nothing around to help, things get dark and fast, everyone goes through something, but it shouldn't be gaslightened with "it ain't that bad" because it only worsens things, instead we should help each other and be there for people, acknowledging the way they think, and being there to help.

[@underthesea713]

I disagree, I think that many many people are just not equipped to be parents and even if they seem “perfect” to the child or to others, they can still inflict massive trauma within the child even if they’re not aware of it, possibly their entire lives. Think about how many adults are walking around who claim they never suffered any trauma, when from an outside perspective it’s clear they did. If anyone has ever been suicidal or homicidal, it stems from trauma. Point blank. I think many don’t realize just how subtle it can be, and yet still be deep enough to cause someone to want to take another person’s life. Not enough is understood by the masses about child psychology, but early childhood affects EVERYTHING about a person’s psyche. Healing is always possible, but for someone to get there in the first place is only ever a result of unresolved trauma. I think it’s actually kind of harmful to suggest otherwise. No one is born evil.

[@maloo538]

Do you think maybe people see these murderers and their victims as characters more than people? Idk there's an odd parallel I'm seeing with how people are treating criminals like these with how fandoms often talk about the villains.

[@cj597]

There’s definitely a dissociation from the reality of these criminals. Look at Bundy, Ramirez, women threw themselves at them because they couldn’t understand that they wouldn’t have hesitated to kill them.

[@snailkales]

kinda similar to how some people treat covid. sometimes it’s just hard to fathom reality bc it’s a huge fucking mess

[@lunamoth7044]

We'll, that would certainly make sense.

[@tyronebroson9180]

The difference is that most people in fandoms can tell the difference between fiction and reality, and there is a large difference between liking a fictional villain and supporting someone that actually killed someone in brutal and cruel ways. These people are just straight up crazy.

[@Wormmings]

Junko Enishima (forgot how to spell) vibes tbh

[@hellohell7773]

Still hate the “using mental illness as a way to get away with horrible crimes” thing in courts. It just adds to the stigmatized of each individual mental illness, not to mention takes away the very real accountability that should be placed on the murderers shoulders. Edit: I know there are exceptions but just in general I wanted to put my opinion

[@quinsrevenge]

you realize its actually mental illness sometimes..

[@hellohell7773]

@@quinsrevenge yea no shit you have to have something extremely wrong with you in the head to commit murder but using a mental illness as a way to get out of it isn’t doing anything good for the people who have it too

[@lily3323]

Who said they using it as an excuse whenever they want?!! there’s people that actually have mental illness and they get send to a mental hospital anyway who said they send them free?!

[@lily3323]

The mental hospital is pretty much like a jail

[@hellohell7773]

@@lily3323 What are you talking about I never mentioned anything about mental hospitals????

[@swimmyswim417]

As someone who’s caregiver and older sister to a teen with cerebral palsy, I get how frustrating it is to sacrifice your own well-being and mental health to help look after someone with a developmental disability. Compassion fatigue is real, and at a certain point I just learned to stop asking for help. I have ADHD and I probably would’ve developed anxiety and depression even if I didn’t have my sister around, but all of that certainly didn’t help make things easier. WITH THAT BEING SAID my sister is also one of my best friends. The relationship we have is 1000% worth the mental and physical effort. My priority is to make sure she feels safe and comfortable around me, as a sister, friend, and caregiver. It’s messy, but rewarding, and I can’t even fathom lashing out at her the way Claire murdered her sister. Compassion fatigue be damned. People with disabilities, especially those who are non-verbal or have mobility issues, are SO SO much more likely to be targeted for abuse or violence because they can’t fight back or report their attackers, and it’s a lot more prevalent for society and individual actors to treat them as objects. It’s beyond disgusting.

[@rkeve6352]

So sad. I'm so glad your sister has you and i hope you can get help soon

[@adeline-music]

10000% agreed. I have a disabled brother so when I'd come to my parents about my own mental health they'd pull a similar comparison stunt / not take me seriously which is a frustrating and horrible thing for anyone to go through, but I didn't kill someone because of it. Not to take away from her crimes at all but I really wish her parents would have taken action initially. If they had they'd still have both of their children. The whole case is incredibly sad.

[@crissyzarbano5217]

I understand fatigue and the absolute sacrifice of a caregiver. I am a single mother, My daughter is 22 years old and has CP with spastic quadriplegia. Extremely severe. Non verbal, non ambulatory and needs maximum assistance in life over all. But is straight FIRE! lol she is AWESOME, smart, kind and funny. She is in there whether others want to see it or not!! And I commend anyone who has taken on this role. Bc it 24 hrs. It's hard, and taxing. Plus there's work, there's life, there's the caregivers individual wants and needs. Finding balance is a struggle. But...its about perspective. However if you know how to listen properly, people like Helen and like my daughter, will LITERALLY give you the answers of the universe period. I can't help but get a little triggered by this 14 yr old, privileged kid literally piercing her sister's throat with a knife. Her sister who is better than me. Better than her, better than most human beings. People like Helen are just better than most of us. And if you are exposed to them you should understand that...or leave period. It's not for everyone. But flagrantly not paying attention to what in that person is actually in front if you is a CHOICE Its the worlds biggest secret. They look meek, and to be "nonproductive" members of society to most. Yet, they are composed of complete innocence. They will never lie, they love and give kindness and compassion with out ulterior motive. They are literally what more people SHOULD BE. And to know there is a set of people that would glamorize this absolute waste of a kid...who was actually blessed to have a sister like Helen, makes me livid. Yeah... we all understand as caregivers the absolute exhaustion, the physical hardship on our own bodies. The sacrifice. Sure. This is what true entitlement of a privileged youth looks like. I'm sad her parents did not validate her needs the same way. That happens DAILY in many households. It still doesn't make it even a small bit understandable. I think that as caregivers we have to understand ourselves through the special person in our lives. We are just as chosen with the capabilities to do this job. If we ignore that and sell out to our own stuff with out being grateful daily for our abilities, then we are doing ourselves a disservice in realizing our own potential. But this kid, was not a caregiver, at least it's not reported if she was. We are talking, the lifting, the bathing, feeding, gtube operation, feeding, dressing, care after multiple extreme surgeries, packing wounds, incision care, seizures, medication administration, plus having the energy to show that person a good life. This kid was probably not responsible for any of that. She robbed the world of a teacher. Someone truly made and chosen to be pure, and stayed that way even though adversity that could put down a full grown man. And the people that glorify this killers cowardice, applaud this person for anything at all after Murdering a completely defenseless innocent little girl... are perhaps the most ignorant. They should all be replaced...with an army of worriors, like Helen...

[@Mpinkpixie]

Totally get it . I have a nephew who has severe autism (but I live close by and frequently help and my parents help my sister with caretaking) and the first hand witnessing of the fatigue and burn out is so real. It scares me how much these individuals are targeted because they cant fight back

[@lisx.x]

I 100% agree, my twin brother has cerebral palsy and autism and he is my favorite person in the whole world, the sacrifices we make for them are so worth it just so we can see them smile and have a good time. I can't even function without him i get anxious when we're apart wondering if he's being properly taken care of. What that girl did to her older sister is unforgivable.

[@LR-ke5pw]

As a childhood educator, 9/10 "problematic" kids have something was wrong with their parents. I really wish these parents never give birth to these kids due to the pathetic adulthood these kids will have when they grow up.

[@honeybunny6782]

i can’t be the only one who tried to helped the queen say ✨ rehabilitation ✨

[@reynam2576]

😅

[@anabelgamino1444]

I sat here trying to help her sound it out 😅 so close queen so close!

[@reptilequeen4720]

@@anabelgamino1444 same lmao 🤣

[@spicyt0fu]

I haven’t actually finished watching the video but schizophrenia isn’t just from childhood trama. It’s often passed down in families like most other mental disorders.

[@IveGotItTwisted]

THIS. Thank you!

[@victoriadiesattheend.8478]

Schizophrenia is not at all the result of trauma. It is completely and wholly genetic and inherited. This is the reason I don't really believe schizophrenic people should have children.

[@natalia4955]

@@victoriadiesattheend.8478 eugenics vibes :/

[@cemeterygxtes]

@@victoriadiesattheend.8478 that is quite literally eugenics. you disgust me.

[@spicyt0fu]

@@victoriadiesattheend.8478 come on man. It’s not good to think like that. It’s best for those people to just have a good support system around them. schizophrenia really is a treatable condition and there’s no reason to make people stiffer for something out of their control

[@thelonleyUchiha1]

It’s so odd how some people are so convinced that how you look determines your personality and how if your “good looking” in any way it means you can’t be a killer or if you did should be 100 percent forgiven

[@Angelface11]

The superficiality and soullessness of many humans

[@panicatmychemicalfalloutbr6381]

Salem Tover did a video essay about this topic, it’s really interesting if you’re interested.

[@thelonleyUchiha1]

@@panicatmychemicalfalloutbr6381 sounds interesting I’ll take a look when I have some spare time

[@panicatmychemicalfalloutbr6381]

Colleen1994 Alright, have a nice day/night and stay safe. :)

[@thelonleyUchiha1]

@@panicatmychemicalfalloutbr6381 you too my friend 🤟🏻

[@sunnysander6204]

Oh my goodness PLEASE make a video on people faking disorders! Not only is it annoying, but it also stopped me from getting help for my disorders because I kept thinking that I might've been accidentally faking them for attention. We need more people to be talking about this!

[@Amandavg]

I just want to add to what you said about DID or Schizophrenia starting after severe childhood trauma. This is partially true, but mental illness does not discriminate. Plenty of people who had wonderful childhoods still suffer from mental disorders such as schizophrenia or bipolar.

[@ibchillin]

DID does actually discriminate - it can only be DID if it's caused by childhood trauma, otherwise it's a different dissociative disorder. schizophrenia isn't caused by trauma tho, that wasn't true

[@mariahhkate]

@@ibchillin correct! Schizophrenia can be caused by many things. I’ve never even heard it being associated with childhood trauma.

[@LangkeeLongkee]

While that is true, not all disorders are trauma responses. DID is a trauma response that starts in childhood (cannot be diagnosed until adulthood) while Schizophrenia can be hereditary. DID is exactly what it sounds like, you experience so much trauma that you dissociate to protect yourself and in dissociating so much your brain creates a whole nother person to be there and deal with the garbage that you can't.

[@stassadar]

Very true! My brother suffer from schizophrenia, yet my parents always treated him like a king and always gave everything and did everything for him. My brother won chess competitions and had the best grades. I was the younger sister who was kinda neglected, but I didn’t mind since I really liked my brother and he deserved the best. So when my brother was started to randomly act weird and got into this point, it really broke our family.

[@andizana]

Thank you for saying this. Those disorders are stigmatized enough and don't automatically make the suffers dangerous.

[@nyansylph]

I would love for you to make a video on people who fake disorders. The fact that you mentioned it made me really excited. I have a tic disorder that isn’t Tourette’s and I hope that I’ll actually get a diagnosis soon. But I also see a lot of people who struggle with other people not believing them because of those other people. I love your videos so much. ♥️

[@ratstanduser]

Yes I would love to see hailey cover this topic I also have tics and I struggle with them a lot and seeing people fake it is so upsetting to me.

[@candlewax3622]

just got diagnosed good luck man and blessed be

[@nyansylph]

@@ratstanduser ♥️♥️

[@nyansylph]

@@candlewax3622 ♥️♥️

[@candlewax3622]

@@nyansylph have a lovely day! remember a dignosis can change all the time so you aren't stuck with one thing!! if you ever need someone I've got you

[@kori932]

her singing over the songs for the edits was hilarious

[@AlexDrescher]

fr omg I was dying h

[@steveharringtonswife4797]

I thought someone else was singing it lmao

[@dana_6960]

mAmA iM iN lOvE wItH a cRiMiNaL 😂😂 I love Hailey

[@pinkyhc4130]

What was going on in that house, with a kid expressing that level of unhappiness and anger? We hear about Isabella when she's 7, but what was her babyhood like? Neglectful and distant like her childhood and adolescence? Possible religious trauma? She was just a kid, wtf happened to her?

[@CaseyfromKentucky]

"Gen Z is gonna be the last generation..." Hate to tell you, but every generation thinks this 😂... they wouldn't be the first generation to see glamorizing and romanticizing of horrible people and won't be the last. Remember, Bonnie and Clyde were (and still are 🤢) celebrated celebrities and had shit tons of people cheering them on as they were on their murder spree and even within the communities they were terrorizing.

[@voldemortsshampoo4551]

There were essentially ted bundy fan clubs by the time he was on trial, so this is definitely not a new thing

[@jessicapeyton5444]

That’s a good point. Bonnie and Clyde has I feel at this point completely lost any negative connotation. Also the next generation is already here, they’re just babies right now 😂

[@joshridinger3407]

from jesse james to mostly mythical folk heroes like stagger lee. it goes back to the dawn of time. mass murderers are revered as great men; warlords, kings, heroes.

[@miaironstone6783]

Bundy had women that would change their hair to look more like his victims and show up around the court house with flowers… it’s super fd but nowhere near new

[@hannahsc6376]

hey side note, i’m not sure if it’s your child in your profile pic but his/her little smile is adorable :)

[@moonie1488]

i remember first hearing about this murder even before the edits and fandom for her happened. it’s sickening and pretty privilege at its finest

[@zuhavcr]

it made my stomach turn and flip with the way people were treating these murderers. as if they were angels. it blows my mind.

[@non5025]

@@user-jy7vh4vr9p you dont have to conform to the beauty standards to be pretty.. society can still see you as pretty cause society is shitty and unreasonable lmfao and when you do conform to the beauty standard society shames you

[@oppaloopa3698]

Ableism, too. Big time. Helen is being blamed for her sisters crime.

[@Lore.n]

@@oppaloopa3698 that’s so disgusting.

[@pri.sci.lla.]

@@non5025 I can’t be the only one who doesn’t think they’re pretty at all…

[@hannameyer3255]

"Jehovah" is her god.....she felt comfort in those last moments. so so sad.

[@isabellakim5940]

Maybe she saw him?? scientists said as people die, their brains leave illusions to comfort themselves whilst dying.

[@foutianofchocolate]

@@isabellakim5940 broooo i was thinking that and it’s scaring me lol 😫

[@Gofftits69]

@@isabellakim5940 it's actually the release of the natural dmt in your brain. Makes dying a lil less painful.

[@Angelica-Pickles]

@@isabellakim5940 I think she said it for comfort or like a plead, it’s so sad

[@KTL996]

When my grandad was dying of cancer I was sat next to him in his bed and he started reaching out at the light in the ceiling and saying he could see his mum and our dog that died two years before him

[@starchild2660]

bruh you were talking about how volatile she was as a kid and i genuinely was so confused and thinkin "how can a kid feel like this and act out so violently towards their parents?" then you said they were jehovah's witnesses and it all made sense. for anyone reading this, growing up in a minority JW community has been the most scarring thing I and all the kids my age experienced. half of the JW kids i know have turned to hard drugs or ending their lives and the other half have the most volatile depression/anxiety/BPD/etc. i had old men telling my dad that my body was too provocative at age 14 and that i had to wear "more modest" clothes even though i was covered nearly head to toe. im not saying her parents deserved it, but that for sure scarred the kid enough to act out in that way.

[@anastasiadalias1rbu]

I mean tbh when I heard they were JWs given all I’ve heard about them and how they treat their kids, I was like “yeah that makes sense” It in no way excuses or justifies her a actions, nobody deserves to die like that, but it can help to understand the root of the problem

[@rachelortiz147]

Same here. Raised a JW. People don’t realize it’s an abusive cult. If you raise your child in an abusive cult AND abuse them yourself how do you think the child is going to turn out?

[@charlessarver1637]

Yep that'll do it. I hate religion

[@SpecialBlanket]

shoutout to someone naming bpd as a normal trauma disorder and not acting like it's something bad you are/did

[@tcl09110]

@@rachelortiz147 I have family who are JW and it is so off-putting and cultish. They've tried to "indoctrinate" me several times.

[@justalex_28]

The internet: canceling Jenna Marbles Also the internet: let's romanticize and justify a murderer 😍😍

[@littlesparrow303]

I know it’s so messed up!!! People can be sensitive to someone past mistakes but when it comes to actual crime 😒😒

[@SalamanderLights]

Didn't she just independently decide to stop uploading because of her old content?

[@kkittycatkat1990]

@@SalamanderLights Yes. Jenna cancelled herself. She could literally come back anytime and people would be ecstatic.

[@briannaw.3472]

@@samanthaflorence733 its almost as if black people would be offended by the stereotypes she profited off in her videos, maybe you should show some empathy even when it doesn't affect you

[@swimmingcircles99]

girl right!

[@ashleynorton7736]

Law student here. The Supreme Court has ruled that that minors can’t be sentenced to death or life without patrole. Also your example of killing your rapist is not third degree homicide. Justified self defense is a defense against a murder charge. Third degree murder is generally negligence. So if you text and drive and hit someone, you should’ve been more responsible. It’s also common in cases of child abuse or neglect that results in death.

[@werkitbaby]

queen

[@libramoons]

hi! so would manslaughter be considered 3rd degree?

[@Raybeam05]

As someone who whatches anime, I promise that I haven’t had any interest in murdering or severely hurting someone.

[@baifengjiuer9255]

Anime has nothing to do with it

[@aaaaaaaafjjdjs]

same vibes as old people that say that video games make people more agressive 💀

[@angelacanedit]

deadass

[@staceysarah_xo]

@@aaaaaaaafjjdjs and d&d

[@mfchc14]

yes, it really annoyed me that she said that. I understand where she's coming from but she throws her opinion way too freely considering how many people watch her videos. Like if we needed more stigmas.

[@awkwardsaucce9387]

I resent my mother, cannot stand the very sight of her. She makes me sick to my stomach. So I moved out the DAY I turned 18 lol I was already in and out of the Psych Ward and she’s so toxic I couldn’t deal with it, so I left. NEVER have I ever thought about unaliving her.

[@Marie-pr1ss]

Unaliving her? Never heard that one before!

[@dumbich2238]

@@Marie-pr1ss i think it’s so the comment doesn’t get reported or something but the point still gets across

[@hopscotch1049]

Yeah, same. My mom's always been emotionally abusive and sometimes got very physical, and I've cut myself off from her life,, can't imagine killing her, though.

[@prekisfeet42]

Are you mentally ill?

[@tijaguvaite8942]

My dad passed away two days ago unexpectedly. This upload made me smile. Thank you ❤️

[@es1era]

im so so sorry for your loss. sending much love to you and your family ♡

[@snail4sale560]

boosting for hailey to see i’m so sorry for your loss , sending love and keeping you in my thoughts 💖💖

[@moldedpeaches]

I’m so sorry- sending lots of love

[@tijaguvaite8942]

Thank you everybody. It’s been difficult, me and my sister had to fly to UK because thats where the accident happened. I am very tired and I just want to go home

[@reggieandenzoschaos7726]

My deepest sympathies. Sending tons of love.

[@bittering]

Reminds me of the "yandere killer" Yuka Takaoka, when everyone romanticized her and turned a photo of her covered in blood smoking a cigarette go viral... people are fucked

[@Addicted2fashion444]

I saw that on Tumblr and was so confused

[@Taylorc0de]

oh god I remember....yikes

[@roswitha8815]

I don’t think it was your intention to offend, but no one who uses a wheelchair is “ridden” by their chair. If you’re ridden with something, you’re basically cursed by that thing. Wheelchairs and all mobility devices free people and let them move through the world. Without wheelchairs/walkers/crutches/etc., people with mobility difficulties would be truly immobile. Wheelchairs = freedom

[@dishansomboii7648]

I didn't even thought about that. Sometimes I wonder how many people I have offended in my life.

[@Mads-yj3oz]

There were a few dicey things that she said, it would be beneficial for her to educate herself a bit. Everyone deserves growth, and thank you for posting this info!

[@YouScareMe1]

Yeah but she wasn't wrong. I think most immobile people would like to walk again without needing mobility devices. It's a good substitute but nobody would actually prefer it.

[@roswitha8815]

@@dishansomboii7648 don’t beat yourself up. The wokest among us have all said crappy stuff. When I think of what I’ve said to people (sometimes on purpose to hurt them), I feel a little sick. What important is constantly listening, growing and adjusting your behavior/words when someone says “hey, xyz isn’t cool and is hurtful.” Perfection isn’t the goal, we all just must do our best to do better if we mess up.

[@roswitha8815]

@@Mads-yj3oz yeah…I agree 😅 without sounding patronizing, I think she’s just very young and when I was 19 (10 effing years ago omg 😆💀), I said all sorts of crap. Sometimes because I didn’t know better….sometimes on purpose 😱 We’ve all messed up - it’s what we do after that counts. I see in Hailey someone open and willing to learn, so hopefully she will see this thread and adjust accordingly 🌈

[@notpub]

Lots of ppl have shitty upbringing, are abused, forgotten, left behind, BORED, CRAVING ATTENTION, etc and they break the cycle of abuse, which is hella-harder than just lashing out and getting a quick dopamine rush. NO EXCUSES.

[@danielle.moore.22]

this spooky scary skeletons thing is just getting funnier and funnier 💀👻

[@augwa5645]

it was cropped today 🤪

[@sammy0904]

i remember seeing the edits of isabella on tiktok, and i was so confused about why people were behaving like that towards a murderer. some comments i remember reading were even saying that she was probably trying to convey a message through the camera signals, and that she wasn't actually guilty. it gives me the creeps that people who think like that exist so freely

[@biguattipoptropica]

She's definitely guilty but I believe a lot of her claims of abuse. Jehovah's witnesses are a cult and they recommend child abuse for children who aren't falling in line. They also victim blame and isolate CSA victims. That doesn't make what she did okay, it's a reason and not an excuse.

[@eternallyidyll]

@@biguattipoptropica OMG YES, a reason not an excuse.

[@seline.michell]

The ppl who trust them and romanticize them are just natural selection.

[@ruth0224]

Sameee,,, they were actually defending her,, it was so disturbing

[@positivelysunshine9627]

THE QUEEN HAS ARRIVED

[@brookeb1753]

FACT👏🏼

[@kristam3817]

No matter how many times I have read and/or listened to these stories, I find myself drawn to your episodes. You really do a fabulous job, and I am loving when you say y'all! Keep up the great work!!

[@erikdaniels0n]

See those “fan edits” of Isabella, especially the ones to Criminal and Sweet but Psycho literally made me feel sick

[@nataliawashington872]

Yeah if I was Britney or Ava Max I would be sick to my stomach to see people using my songs to romanticize killers

[@Arisusagievans]

Man, I watched this video yesterday and I just couldn't stop thinking about Claire Miller. Like, her tiktok handle is a reference to the anime Mob Psycho 100 (the anime is about people with psychic powers, the Psycho there is a reference to it, not to psychopath ok) and the character in her profile picture is sort of a mentor figure to the protagonist of this anime, who is a teenage boy with strong psychic powers. This boy is super insecure about using his powers cuz once he lost control over them and he doesn't want to harm people again. Anyways, there's a scene where this mentor guy tells him something along the lines of "Your psychic powers are like a knife, you can use a knife to stab someone, or you can use it to prepare a delicious meal. You're the one who decides if you're gonna use it for doing good or bad". It's sad to see that even though Claire was a huge fan of this show, she didn't get its message at all. I get it because I was once 14 and I just watched anime all day without putting any thought on what was the message being conveyed, but like, damn girl, the character you like explicitly said about not using knifes to stab people, come on.

[@nobleststrive]

reigen fans amirite?

[@lauralarson3111]

I like Reigen, but my boy Mob is my favorite.

[@Zulf85]

@@lauralarson3111 Mob is too precious - even with his powers, there's something very believable about his life issues and you just really want to root for him

[@lauralarson3111]

@@Zulf85 Exactly. He's so wholesome and loves to help people. One of my favorite characters of all time.

[@lauralarson3111]

@Kerstin Mueller I don't know how to feel because it's my favorite anime. 😳 I suggest you try it, Mob is wholesome. No boobs or incest, just psychic powers and character development.

[@BimmieJames]

24:55 a slight correction, past trauma (i.e. in early childhood) does *not* cause schizophrenia. Now it might coincidentally be that a child would have the trauma and unrelated schizophrenia (which usually only shows up around puberty regardless). The comorbid trauma mixed with unstable living conditions and untreated, undiagnosed schizophrenia is a recipe for disaster. Trauma *can* play into developing bipolar disorder and Schizoid personality disorder. But the real relationship is unknown beyond that. Schizophrenia is a neurological *and* psychological disorder. While bipolar disorder can manifest as depression/mania (neurological and psychological symptoms) bipolar disorder is itself mostly a psychological illness- NOT implying it’s less real because everything I have mentioned in this comment is very very real of course. Schizoid personality disorder is a personality disorder as per its name; personality disorders are a specific subset of psychological disorder- although personality disorders are… umm how do I say, treatment for a personality disorder is from a very different angle. Personality disorders are more often subacute and unlike the other aforementioned mentioned illnesses here just having a personality disorder doesn’t necessarily require treatment.

[@Jen.R.]

I was about to talk about this. My step mother had schizophrenia (she passed last year). It was not caused by trauma in any way. Her family actually had a history of schizophrenia, so for her it was genetic!! Putting out a blanket statement saying that it is ALL caused by trauma is not a good thing.

[@ImPeterCriss]

I came to the comments to say the same thing, thank g*d. Someone with sense

[@sophiameneely694]

Searching for this comment.

[@communistsharks6889]

Thank you for this correction! Was just about to comment this!

[@discon_csert]

This.

[@johannamcclure3861]

Sooo, just so you know that those mental disorders don’t always come from from childhood trauma. Sometimes things like schizophrenia, it’s genetics. Though, childhood trauma could be a factor to bring it out.

[@stevieallen222]

my father just passed earlier this week and this is the first thing that’s made me smile :) love u hailey

[@briannagonzalez7772]

Awwww I’m so sorry to hear that sending lots of love hope you feel better :(🤍

[@tijaguvaite8942]

Hello, my dad passed away two days ago unexpectedly. I know what you are going through. You can always contact me if you need anyone to talk to. You are very strong

[@stevieallen222]

@@tijaguvaite8942 thank you hope you’re doing well 🖤

[@stevieallen222]

@@briannagonzalez7772 thank you love 🥺🖤

[@M2R.]

Rest In Peace to your father & I hope you will have more smiling moments soon :)

[@ambereyedbabygirl]

The depression and lack of future plans is a huge revelation for me. I worked hard to graduate a year early, just to have no plans for after. I've had severe mental illness most of my life that I can remember (I blocked out most of my younger years) but I'm not a skeezy little brat like this...

[@8CheerleadingGirl8]

same here

[@khanyimguli904]

Factss

[@Zanyelle]

You’ve chosen not to make your trauma define you. Hurt people hurt people statement often heard is still a choice. Why people want to hurt others because they are hurting when those people are not intentionally hurting you , is beyond my understanding.

[@flower35cutie]

I think the whole anime thing comes from awhile back. There are casual anime fans who just enjoy the medium. There's a term known as otaku which is defined as person who's obsessed with video games or anime that it hinders their social skills and isolate from society. There's the infamous anime reviewer who committed a crime, and falls under this category. Just basically a few bad apples that represent the whole fandom. If you're interested in starting anime I recommend Fruits Basket, studio ghibli films, Your Name, Wolf Children or Silent Voice

[@Elissaw36]

Also the Mister Anime case. He was well known in early KZbin and had a lot of success reviewing anime till he murdered his whole family. “That Chapter” covers the case really well. It happened only 30 minutes away from where I live.

[@minilene]

The term is “weeb” not an otaku

[@aarush1s0od]

fruits basket is so cute kyo is my comfort character

[@nobetawedielikemysanity]

@@minilene no? Weebs are people unnecessarily obsessed with anime and make it their whole personality while Otaku can be for anime or really any online medium like webtoons or video games. All they have to do is be obsessed with that online medium to the point where they shut themselves away from the outside and have their social skills hindered.

[@eternallyidyll]

so ig im an otaku but anywayss... and i wouldnt say that those few bad apples represent the whole community/fandom. its only that people make it **seem** like they represent the whole community but i promise that those people who like anime and also happen to kill people do NOT represent the whole community and not all weebs/otakus/anime lovers want to kill their family :)

[@givingyoumyheartandsoul9564]

thank you for shedding some light on how awful an insanity plea is! i'm actually studying law and i truly can't fanthom why would any client want that or why would any lawyer ask for it. in my country, the criminally insane are put in a different institution than regular patients, and it's definitely a life sentence. you supposedly get out when you get better but when there's literally no rehabilitation plan or any activities that would help you to get better, there's no parole or any help to reintegrate into society, nothing, just medicines to knock you out. it's a horrible place to be and not at all better than serving your time in prison.

[@CharlieFlood913]

You used a bad example for third degree murder. Self defense in a r@Pe situation is not third degree murder. A good example of third degree murder is a drunk driver hitting someone and killing them. Just wanted to help you with that! As you would not get charged for third degree if you were r@ped and fought in self defense. If you were charged for such a thing, it would fall under second degree not third degree. As you don't plan to kill them, but you are also defending yourself so it's not really an accident. (Forensics background.) I love your videos by the way, always look forward to them!

[@julietescorza4743]

Yup!!

[@Alex-ms9em]

Wait are you saying you could still get sentenced for murder if you were r@ped and fought back?

[@applebrown7646]

@@Alex-ms9em that’s my question also

[@gabrielle8837]

@@Alex-ms9em there’s a lot of cases of that yes, Cyntoia Brown is one example she was 16 and killed the man abusing her, I believe she was being trafficked at the time but definitely look into it for more detail!

[@MachinaGirlRobots]

Why is everyone afraid to say Rape. Rape. Rape. RAPE. IVE BEEN RAPED! Give the word a chance to fucking be disgusting.

[@emmymcpeters5114]

So in Claire’s situation I’m not defending her but I definitely feel like this could’ve been prevented if she did get the help she needed.

[@warrior_girl_6837]

I agree 100%

[@teezokhara4043]

Only reason I look forward for Friday’s I swear to god.

[@exprios3999]

on god

[@chrltrichardsily]

same

[@marissa3100]

i love your pfp

[@Cielinabox]

It’s so weird to think Claire is from my hometown and also a cosplayer, I could have seen her at a convention and not have even known.

[@cindililly7948]

It's the pretty privilege with Isabella let's be honest being attractive can get you through anything.

[@Kaii0916]

No offense to her but actual offense anyways she’s not even that attractive-

[@lillibjk]

@@Kaii0916 yes finally she isn't pretty

[@Kaii0916]

@@lillibjk that sounds rude what I mean is she definitely doesn’t have pretty privilege like people say she does

[@Qbesent]

She's not even that attractive tho

[@MegKampen]

She's not attractive at all. She seriously looks evil and there indefinitely something wrong with her. She looks so mean and bitter.

[@honkwaves6207]

i was literally moots with claire miller. we had conversations together. nothing about her seemed “off” or “weird”…

[@victoriaaguilera4793]

Serious inquiry: what is moots?

[@minion_luvr_]

@@victoriaaguilera4793 mutuals

[@victoriaaguilera4793]

@@minion_luvr_ thank

[@lauraarena325]

Same. Didn’t know her personally but no people that do and had this tragedy not happened, no one would have had a bad thing to say about her

[@justinspencer7541]

As a person that watches a lot of anime, I can say there may be a correlation if the people don't understand the correct meaning behind what the story is touching on. Yes a lot of anime touches on topics about violence and murder but its more about why they are wrong and how psychologically its bad. I think the people just chose to idolize the "bad" people's ideals rather than following the deeper meaning of how and why those people go that far.

[@Coffeebaby99]

Imo a lot of anime is about facing and overcoming bad morals, shounen, magical girl, romance even some in the horror genre are heavily based in rising from the underdog. I feel the trend she sees isn’t the violence that gets inspired it is that a lot of these people are stuck in their head and use anime as an escape in a way. I really haven’t seen the trend she’s talking about, I’ve only seen a few where anime was a part of the perpetrators life. There could also be the romanticization of their own lives where they think their actions are cinematic- could be seen in a handful of criminals who leaned on any type of entertainment media before committing their crimes.

[@slsthewriter1299]

There is definitely something to be said about how those who don't feel like they fit in would gravitate towards entertainment from other cultures, regardless of its content. Anime is anime, so it does satisfy gore and all that, though I digress. I feel like it's more that anime isn't American, or Western for the matter, but a Japanese medium of entertainment, so ye. That, and correlation doesn't equal causation. Lol

[@emilynam6084]

I could not agree more. But it makes me sad that since anime is so much more mainstream than it was 10 years ago, it's been lumped in with violent tendencies and violent people.

[@quickdraw9648]

If I recall correctly people would send serial killers fan mail in prison. Not a new phenomenon in the slightest.

[@saanve5221]

As someone who has a sibling with cerebral palsy I can understand Claire to SOME extent but killing someone who cannot defend themselves just for the attention of your parents who I assure, must have been trying their best to give both their daughters a good life is messed up. Anyhow, I definitely think there’s better punishments than a death penalty which could be better for Claire and less traumatising for the whole family ! Also hopefully this case doesn’t flare up stigma around the anime community cause we already get a lot of hate 😭

[@aaliyahlaporte4008]

Ok

[@ZachPlum]

Truly, us weebs are the most oppressed group in society

[@cool.6701]

@@ZachPlum ugh yes people who watch anime, such oppressed people. #oppressedaesthetic #sooppressed #oppressionlol - a brown person who likes twilight (lol if this was a joke im sorry girlboss)

[@oppaloopa3698]

Hey please know that "wheelchair ridden" is a bit of an offensive term due to its hurtful connotations. Most of us prefer to be called "wheelchair users". Also, ableism has a big part in that case. Abled folk have turned her into a victim. I'm a disabled 19-year-old who has a good relationship with my younger siblings so this case hits me hard, but I still feel awful for Claire since she obviously had her own issues. That being said, this idea that Helen somehow got what she deserved and is responsible for her own death is disgusting. Claire committed an awful crime and needs to pay.

[@werkitbaby]

thank you!!!

[@oppaloopa3698]

@@werkitbaby :-)

[@mickdizzle]

Glad you brought this up

[@jessicacowell5424]

I was looking for this, and I agree.

[@chrissy3875]

can I ask why the term wheelchair ridden is offensive? I understand not all wheelchair users are unable to walk and that many can stand up/walk, but if someone isn't able to move around wouldn't they just be described as "wheelchair ridden" sorry if I come across as rude I'm just curious 😭

[@mckaylasmith4204]

I have been super interested in the "Slenderman Stabbings" if you could do a video going in-depth about that that would be amazing!!

[@arioleary]

yes!

[@savykitten_]

Yes please!!!

[@bubbaloo62]

Explore With Us just released a 2.5 hour video of the interrogations of the girls. :)

[@mckaylasmith4204]

@@bubbaloo62 omg they did! thank you for letting me know:)

[@m0o_min609]

I live near waukesha and was around 10 when the stabbings happened so I’ve been really interested in the case as well and can you believe one of the perpetrators ( Anissa) was released a week ago? she was granted early release after only 4 years of staying at a psychiatric hospital yet the victim has been living in fear of them ever since the incident so I can’t even begin to imagine how she feels now that one of them was granted early release

[@hibanizami]

The fact that Isabella emailed her mom the threats… like as if she wanted there to be proof is insane

[@Ashcashfain]

I feel like there isnt anything wrong with anime other than fans fostering a toxic environment (usually the wapanese, or wannabe Japanese, fans)

[@clare6640]

...and the pandering to the male gaze and fetishization of children or girls who at least LOOK very young

[@7iffdo893]

same and imo toxicity could happen with literally any community/interests...

[@skellish]

@@clare6640 Yeah big agree. I don't get why it's so normal in the anime community, I like anime but that shit makes me so uncomfy.

[@poslv9029]

@@skellish it's normal in the anime community bc a lot of anime have that so ofc the community will be the same. that's why i'm just a casual when it comes to anime, i can't stand watching some of those anime

[@rafaelsouza9646]

A lot of animes have these issues cuz they sell more if have these kinds of things., its sad but it happens with a lot of mangas that when they got an animation, themes like Ecchii and other problematic things are included just to appeal more to the public., unfortunaly its something structural, hypersexualization of minors, sex and violence for example always will exist cause everyone consumes these types of midias, and doesn't even need to go to far in japan, these things are in everything all around the world :( (srry for the bad english)

[@ninamicanovic86]

Hi- great video! A couple of things about schizophrenia: 1. It definitely could be linked to childhood trauma (DID and Borderline PD have some more evidence here though), but schizophrenia also has some genetic components. We actually know relatively little about "why" schizophrenia happens, and lots of people with schizophrenia do have some childhood trauma, but it's definitely not the cause. 2. I think people use the term "with schizophrenia" and "has schizophrenia", but people with schizophrenia might have a different preference. Schizophrenia is generally quite stigmatized unfortunately, despite most people with schizophrenia having greater chances of hurting themselves vs. hurting someone else.

[@DATrainedrop]

YES, this! I wasn’t sure how to verbalize this sentiment, but you commented exactly what I was thinking ^-^

[@julietescorza4743]

!!!! yess

[@its-hannaH]

When it comes to faking neurological conditions, I’ve got to say (as someone with Tourette syndrome) people often don’t believe you even when knowing you in person. Ive seen people absolutely break down when internet decided that they don’t have the disorder that makes their life so difficult. It’s a frustrating line between believing those who actually do have the rare condition, and being skeptical of people who show their neurological condition to the world bc obviously it’s gotta be for attention right? I wish I didn’t get the attention that Tourette’s can cause in public and it pisses me off

[@annmatthys938]

Exactly! But in the situation of Trisha.. bold faced lier and its clear she never acted that way in the years on year of content. And still dosent in her products lol

[@its-hannaH]

@@annmatthys938 they*

[@nobleststrive]

@Anna's randomness WhoCares NOT ME WHO DID THAT AND ALSO FAKED ALLERGIES TO HIDE MY ED I CAN'T

[@ZachPlum]

@@its-hannaH Trisha's stated MANY times they're fine with either she/her or they/them. You'd think the people going around correcting others would know that.

[@its-hannaH]

@@ZachPlum ok thank u

[@lainaballls]

As someone who’s been in a mental facility and isn’t a criminal, we were minors yet were treated as adult criminals. None of us did anything wrong to others (usually we were just kids from abusive families, kids who acted out, or s3lf h4rmers), but they literally treated us like we treated us like we were in jail. It’s not a fun place to go even for regular law abiding citizens.

[@bell-lv7rk]

god these videos make me so happy when i come home from school and i see one was posted, so glad i’m sick rn and not at school

[@padmaja101]

Hey same pfp

[@opheliathena9096]

@@padmaja101 YOOO TWINS

[@blackpearlyoga]

“What happens in Colorado?” So much actually 😭 this place is nuts

[@infairvarona]

Isn't Colorado also where Shannan Watts and her kids lived? 😔

[@blackpearlyoga]

@@infairvarona yes :(

[@infairvarona]

@@blackpearlyoga Bruh. 😔 Plesse always stay safe. 🙏

[@amariahxo450]

2 very devastating mass shootings happened over there 😭😭😭😭

[@reversedfairytales]

@@amariahxo450 don’t forget Columbine

[@ashleyraley8124]

Fun fact: when death row inmates pick their last meal there is usually a price limit of less than $50 and there are restrictions as to what they can choose.

[@eminempreg]

I think in texas they implemented a price limit cuz this one dude asked for I think maybe 200 dollars worth of food and then refused to eat any of it

[@Littlekitten_]

@@eminempreg wow , what a jerk!

[@finsta4979]

@@Littlekitten_ yeah like the people killing death row inmates aren’t jerks lol

[@2-d_in_a_bag]

@@Littlekitten_ true! also i love your pfp so much. just looking at it gives me serotonin.

[@Littlekitten_]

@@2-d_in_a_bag aww thank you 🤍 it’s my cat when he was a baby kitten :)

[@Abby-th8ur]

Reminds me of the Victoria Mendoza case who killed and stabbed her girlfriend 46 times in the face, neck, and chest. Her crazy fangirls believed that Victoria “made a mistake” and are even advocating for her to be freed since she “deserves a second chance.” But how is stabbing someone almost 50 times a mistake?? That’s like saying shooting someone 50 times is a mistake. It’s ridiculous. And to make matters worse Victoria is now having her friends and family promote her music and is using the fame from her crime to help build a music career. I don’t understand how her fans believe that she’s a nice person for doing that. They are probably antisocial losers who don’t have a life and are disconnected from reality. They need to go out and touch some grass for real. Even Victoria’s family is victim blaming saying how it was the victims fault for “messing” with Victoria’s head. If Victoria was truly being abused and treated badly and the family knew about it the whole time then why didn’t they tell Victoria to leave the relationship or something or help her leave? Sounds fishy if you ask me. They never held Victoria accountable in anything that she did in her life and they still don’t. That’s why Victoria thought for those several minutes that it was okay to stab someone. Tbh I wouldn’t be surprised if Vicky’s family supports incest.

[@Meangirl22]

Also, I really think more channels should do “Intermissions” … that was fun 🎃🌝

[@maddie9791]

seeing that hailey uploaded makes my day

[@nice6219]

Second

[@lil-sq1pp]

Yes

[@Ivymanhattan]

Just wanna gently say that schizophrenia doesn’t usually manifest as a result of childhood trauma, such as DID. ☺️

[@karissagamboa9818]

And DID is extremely rare, and 99.99% of tiktokers with it are lying.

[@dlalalabu5956]

@@karissagamboa9818 what is DID

[@melekpond1213]

@@dlalalabu5956 dissociative identity disorder I think

[@victoriadiesattheend.8478]

Schizophrenia is GENETIC. It doesn't just manifest. Anyone who has it has a parent with it, or a family member with it that is related to their parent.

[@junebugsjukebox]

@@karissagamboa9818 DID actually isnt as rare as you think, a diagnosis is rare. the statistics are simply from diagnosed people, not everyone that has it

[@caleighbocrie577]

Definitely would want a video going over people faking mental illness… I have Bipolar type 2 and I get pretty annoyed with people faking bipolar and not even knowing what it means and saying “I’m soooo Bipolar… I was happy this morning but now I’m sad.” Like I’ve attempted suicide, gone into multiple financial holes, been put on many types of medication that have messed with me, gone through treatment after treatment, and overall I experience a lot of instability. It just rubs me the wrong way when people fake or misuse the term Bipolar. Makes it even harder to explain to people what Bipolar is.

[@remy5540]

the "costed" post-editing notes are damn hilarious and the small intermission is a good change of pace with these stories hailey serving us again with iconic videos, cheers 🍻

[@annahs.channel]

I absolutely believe Isabella was abused, but that does not justify what she did.

[@zebastianlerking891]

Can I just say that it is hilarious how you can't stop smiling after saying skeleton in your intro. I feel like you're picturing the edit and I have to say that it is still as entertaining as when I first saw it.

[@melodyhaviland9393]

aw that’s cute i never noticed this

[@trinityhaggans6417]

Helen’s death really shook up my community. Most of the people I worked with went to school with her. The fact that people are almost celebrating Claire’s crime is disgusting. I always knew that these kinds of criminals have a “fan base” but having it in your own backyard is humiliating and hits home even worse

[@christineolteanu]

I have autism, ADHD, Dyscalculia, and Tourette syndrome (all formally diagnosed by psychiatrists) and my sisters often feel like our mother takes my medical and psychological concerns more seriously than theirs. I always try and advocate for them so they can receive equal treatment. Being the sibling of a person with medical conditions is really difficult because parents never want to accept that another child may be struggling too. I am so thankful that my sisters sacrificed their parental attention and small pieces of their childhood for my sake. Please do not downplay the difficulty of growing up with a severely disabled sibling. My parents are amazing, and I am very high functioning, yet my family still struggles with this. If you are a verbal person with a disability, please try and advocate for your siblings when you see your parents comparing your struggles. You never know what they are going through, and they have a right to equal access. Suffering is not a competition. I am not saying this to excuse Claire, but to bring awareness to the situation.

[@lillibjk]

Thank you so much for this wisdom. I grew up practically raising my brother with autism and cerebral palsy. Our dad was working 24/7 and our mother was out I the picture. Sometimes I feel like I sacrificed my whole childhood for my brother but I kept him healthy and well. Anyway it's nice to hear the other side of the story so thank you for sharing!

[@christineolteanu]

@@lillibjk Thank you for sharing too! You must be a very strong person to help raise your brother at a very young age. I have so much respect for siblings that step up to fill a parental role. It's a form of self sacrifice. Thank you for trading your childhood for your brother's future! Without you and others like you, there would be so much more suffering in the world. Being a sibling is hard, but all the hard work pays off in the little moments :)

[@lillibjk]

@@christineolteanu beautifully said!

[@neezv9224]

As an autistic person, I’m glad that you’re appreciative of your sisters sacrificing everything to be there for you because they love you ! My sisters went to elementary school with me during my first years because they chose to, not only that but they sacrificed a lot to be there for me too ! I also find it very nice that you advocate for other neurodivergent people, as well because it shows that you care about your community, and I admire that !

[@makslargu5799]

Schizophrenia is not necessarily caused by childhood trauma, it’s widely believed that there is a genetic or biological component and that stressful life events at any age (including childhood trauma) can trigger psychotic episodes. Just felt it was important to be clear that not everyone with schiz has suffered childhood trauma.

[@bekahiam1]

Schizophrenia is normally hereditary, but trauma can cause an onset of symptoms. Great video, but this should be corrected as it is misinformation.

[@brookeharper5057]

How was it not premeditated when she was sending her mother email and text messages threatening her life way before she killed her??

[@orangeworm]

premeditated means that she had everything planned out, like purposefully setting up a distraction for her stepdad while she attacked her mom/disposing of the body/getting rid of her bloody clothes and escaping etc. the text messages and emails are obviously out of anger and very spontaneous from isabella - they also aren't really indicative that she had any sort of concrete plan because she was cryptic and just said things like "you will pay blah blah blah". even if you think she deserved to be charged for premeditated murder, what isabella did really does not fit the typical circumstances of a premeditated murder.

[@brookeharper5057]

@@orangeworm it means she had willfill intent and forethought... you don't have to have every little detail planned out to equal premeditation... otherwise no one would get charged with that.

[@orangeworm]

@@brookeharper5057 i was just giving the obvious examples of how prosecutors may find she had wilful intent and forethought, through these sorts of actions or having actual plans. and she didn't do any of these things. but yes i missed out that she probably had time to contemplate the act of killing and she had waited until both her mom and stepdad were preoccupied to carry it out. my bad.

[@ashleemarie9939]

This is just like people romanticising people like Ted Bundy and Jeffery Dahmer.

[@elite134]

hey, just wanted to say that i think your editing is becoming better with every video you upload, thanks for the amazing entertainment!

[@gindoob7502]

Im disabled and i am a wheelchair user. Even if someone is in a wheelchair 24/7, "wheelchair ridden" is considered inappropriate... i forget why and my brain is foggy... thank you love❤️❤️❤️

[@hayleyjane8099]

thank you! was looking for a comment like this. saying someone is wheel chair ridden is ableist, it perpetuates that idea that being a wheelchair user is a bad thing which it is not

[@oliviastern6644]

Commenting under this so hopefully she sees!!

[@aya-qo9wg]

in that case, what is she supposed to say? just asking because i'm curious

[@calizeos8880]

she also mentioned that helens degree of cerebral palsy was “bad” - it bothered me that she attributed a negative connotation to her condition

[@hayleyjane8099]

@@aya-qo9wg she could have said she was a wheelchair user

[@orangeworm]

PLEASE DON'T do a video about "faking mental illness". i'm not gonna sugarcoat it, i don't think it's suitable for the direction this channel is going in. you've generally done well in covering true crime even if there are a few mistakes here and there, and that's great! but delving into the "faking" of mental illness etc is even more difficult and requires a lot of tact. it's a serious matter, and i don't think hailey is particularly immersed in online mental health and disability communities where a lot of discourse takes place, nor does she know enough about the issues as seen by her errors in explaining schizophrenia as well as in using the term "wheelchair-ridden" instead of the preferred more neutral terms like "wheelchair user". i might seem like i'm nitpicking but i'm not undermining her ability to approach video topics with sensitivity and learn new things... i'm simply concerned because she isn't much of an insider regarding the discourse around "faking" illness which can easily morph into the similarly complicated "self dx" conversation so it's even more complex for her to tackle. look up youtubers and people on insta and twitter who are disabled/mentally ill who are already talking about their lived experiences and their opinions on things (e.g. traits of their condition and some ways that they can present, healthy ways to go forward when you think you have this condition, etc) AND support them (!!) instead of running the risk of spreading misinformation and contributing to sensationalism and negativity.

[@n3k0rrrb]

VERY well put, I agree

[@camilaindriago1076]

Agreed. Couldn't have said it better.

[@brittmyob6966]

… or she can just educate herself before she put the video out before making the video? I don’t see how this paragraph was necessary when I think it should be brought to light since there’s so many people out there that fake having mental illnesses & being there’s a lot of people out there that wouldn’t tell the difference I think making a video on how one can maybe spot it and how often it happens out there is nothing wrong. KZbinrs are known for having different channels talking about different things, she should be able to go in whatever direction she wants to do, to branch out to more viewers

[@Coolgravy]

I agree. I especially worry that she would use specific people as example. Personally, I don't like when diagnosises are speculated on. It's something really personal. Like, a whole lot of people were saying Gabbie Hannah doesn't have ADHD. Does she? Does she not? I honestly don't know. Nor do I care. And I don't feel it's my place to question or relevant to whether she's done bad things. While we all agree Trisha doesn't have DID, it's easy to say someone doesnt have a disability. Especially invisible ones. I've seen people again and again accuse disabled people of faking their disabilities when they are ignorant to what the disability actually intails. Like, don't try to speak for people in the first place. Especially when you haven't done an ounce of research.

[@orangeworm]

@@brittmyob6966 i never said she couldn't educate herself and i don't believe she doesn't have the ability to empathise or be discerning. i also completely agree that she can take the channel in whatever direction she wants, but i don't think she's the right person to cover such a topic at this time. i do have mental illness and i see where people are coming from but this is so risky, especially for someone who hasn't had prior experience regarding deeper commentary on this topic. i'm not trying to hate, i am genuinely concerned. like i said, there's many more youtubers and people on social media that have been doing advocacy for quite a while and will have touched on the topic of "faking" mental illness or something that is related. you can always look for these people who are much more involved in online communities and discourse around different disorders and spread their take on this.

[@Babybirdspace]

I’m gen z and I been abused bad and I can’t hurt anyone, I feel bad if I hurt a fly- and murders make me sick

[@juliasimmons1707]

Unpopular opinion but I think you have to be somewhat insane to stab someone 79 times in the face

[@SkylerEnAccion]

i loved the video youre such a good storyteller. Id like to point out tho, schizophrenia is not related to childhood trauma like DID is, it can trigger it and worsen it but they dont belong to the same family of disorders ☝🏼

[@Katm0m]

Schizophrenia has strong genetic bases; so I agree! It can def be brought on because of trauma, but it’s not a dissociative disorder caused by one circumstance

[@89visionartistry89]

Schizophrenia though it has genetic predispositions is highly influenced by childhood trauma. It’s completely possible to be pre disposed but never actually develop it. Childhood trauma is a leading indicator that someone predisposed will later develop it. Please don’t spread misinformation. I have Schizophrenia there are several great books on Audible if anyone is interested in learning.

[@kmarine8852]

Nothing she said was misinformation, schizophrenia IS in a separate class of mental illness and can definitely affect people w/o significant trauma. Don’t invalidate those who develop schizophrenia even in a setting of no outside influence

[@ImPeterCriss]

@@kmarine8852 it's misinformation to equate a very serious neurological disorder (schizophrenia) with a trauma-related disorder. Trauma doesn't cause Schizophrenia. (Also, schizophrenia has environmental and genetic factors, the way I understand the disorder)

[@89visionartistry89]

@@kmarine8852 Schizophrenia takes the perfect storm of both genetic and environmental factors to develop. It’s not solely caused by one or another. There are so many comments on this video saying childhood trauma is not related to Schizophrenia. Hell there’s a comment a little ways up that is vastly incorrect and labels Schizoaffective as a personality disorder and not actual Schizophrenia. Even indicating treatment is not necessary. I can’t even express how incorrect that comment is but it has hundreds of likes. That’s concerning. I personally have talked to hundreds of people maybe more with Schizophrenia in support groups. I’ve read/listened to several books and obviously have lengthy discussions with my psychiatrist. Saying that Schizophrenia is related to childhood and even early adulthood trauma is not misinformation. It’s important research based information. It doesn’t mean it’s the same as DID or anything else. It’s fine to say it’s from a different class of disorders but saying it’s unrelated to trauma is not okay. If you take siblings I’ll use my own family as an example. There are 4 of us all with the same genetics. Neither of our parents and none of our grandparents have Schizophrenia. The sole difference in my upbringing and theirs is the abuse and environment. I’m far younger so was the only young child(6) when we moved into a new house. I was abused by my neighbor from about 6-9. My parents who used to get along well and my other siblings experienced this during childhood now hated each other. My childhood was littered with the constant fighting that was sometimes physical random disappearances of my mother and the abuse until they divorced. I’m the only sibling with Schizophrenia. My oldest niece only a hair younger than me experienced the same things in childhood. She’s the only other member of my family with it. It’s important to understand the correlation between trauma and onset because of the prodrome phase. There is a significant portion of time where someone could potentially receive treatment and avoid initial psychosis completely. This looks a lot like extreme anxiety and depression so it’s overlooked. If we could identify indicators like trauma for instance combined with genetics we might have the opportunity to know when someone is in prodrome. I cannot express how wonderful it would be to avoid psychosis. Many people with psychosis end up with PTSD if they didn’t already have it because it is extremely traumatic and stressful. You can also be genetically pre disposed to Schizophrenia and never actually develop it. Your environment would make the difference. You can even enter Prodrome and not trigger it. There is usually a final trigger which can be traced back to an extremely traumatic or stressful experience someone has before psychosis. I know what this was for myself and with the help of therapy others can identify it too. It’s essential to healing. I’m not trying to discount anyone who develops Schizophrenia but the dozens of comments indicating there isn’t a link between trauma and Schizophrenia are discrediting so many of us. It’s fine to say DID is a separate disorder from a different class but saying there isn’t a link between trauma and Schizophrenia isn’t necessary. There’s a huge environmental component to actually developing it. I can only say that perhaps having Schizophrenia and being constantly blamed for giving yourself Schizophrenia which so many of us are might make you look at the experiences that lead to it differently. I have to explain the different root causes of Schizophrenia to a new person in a support group at least once a week because they are being blamed by family or friends for basically giving themselves Schizophrenia through their own life choices. The only thing worse than the disease for those of us who did get it is the part where everyone you thought you could count on walks out of your life partly because they blame you for doing this to yourself. As they say there are no flowers at the psych ward.

[@Bunnybunnybunny3]

24:53 Hi! I love ur content but wanted to make a quick distinction. Schizophrenia and some other mental disorders can be genetically passed down, trauma doesn’t CAUSE schizophrenia. DID however isnt genetic and has everything to do with trauma. Edit: thank you for the replies and likes! I’d like to clarify that the experience of schizophrenia is very subjective. Hailey’s statement that schizophrenia and other mental disorders are *always* caused by trauma is factually wrong, but I was incorrect in saying trauma doesn’t ever cause schizophrenia.

[@tianacastro2979]

It doesn’t cause but some people can get it later in life due to drugs, and sometimes randomly, everyone’s experience is so personal so unless we really have it (my mom did and now she’s cured of it) or have family or close friends that come to us, we really will never know what it’s like firsthand

[@tianacastro2979]

My mom even tried committing suicide because of it, that’s how traumatic it can be. She’s thankfully happy and healthy now and I couldn’t be more proud

[@foutianofchocolate]

No trust me, based on personal experience. Trauma can cause schizophrenia.

[@foutianofchocolate]

@Linnea Alse that makes sense ! *starts sweating*

[@Bunnybunnybunny3]

@@tianacastro2979 That’s very true. My ex boyfriend had a psychotic break due to drugs and has recovered, but my biological dad who has bipolar or schizophrenia (they’re not sure of the diagnosis) has had it for decades. It’s incredibly devastating and I’m sorry to hear about your mom.

[@itchycooch]

people truly do lose their morals when it comes to someone moderately attractive

[@deezyfbabay6107]

I’ve recently seen these kinda edits for the Menendez brothers too. Shit is wild.

[@alexandramontes3413]

True it’s so weird that they are being romanticized. But the case is super different because apparently they’re a lot of interviews with family members who support that the brothers were raped/abused by their dad etc etc. Super interesting case but I don’t get the hype/edits about the brothers lol… shit is definitely wild

[@deezyfbabay6107]

@@alexandramontes3413 Yeah, I saw court stuff some time ago saying their dad sexually abused them, but yeah it’s the romanticizing of murders for me. Weird shit.

[@TrinaWater]

Those brothers do deserve to be free its so horrific what they went through and how they didn't develop mentally properly bc of it although I hate how little girls only support them and make edits because that think they are attractive thats so disgusting

[@Littlekitten_]

@@TrinaWater there is no proof the boys were assaulted by the father .. we can’t ask for their freedom without evidence ... many people lie to get out of prison ..

[@Afmedic85]

Yup and after they killed their parents they went about their daily lives. There's a picture if them on a trading card of a basketball player (I think a NY Knicks player) where you can see them sitting by the court

[@daniellasloane8410]

Why didn’t the biological father offer his daughter a place to come stay if it was “just for a few months”?🤔 Father of the year.

[@crow3467]

She had a place to stay though, and she didn't want to do it anyway so she still probably would've killed her mom

[@Littlekitten_]

I don’t think Isabella wanted her mother to continue living that’s why ... she wanted to live in a future where her mother is dead :( sick girl

[@Briannalynn112]

These videos come out right before my long walk every Friday and it’s the perfect accompaniment for my walk!

[@Msdeftones]

The part of you singing had me CRYINGG 😭

[@ezra3085]

The highlight of my Friday ❤️❤️

[@elliGoesNothin]

I'm home alone and this was exactly what i needed!

[@srichmond32111]

Please do a little research on disabilities on victims in your stories before posting. Using vague tv references isn't accurate. Cerebral palsy does not impact the person's ability to think. They are typical neurologicaly, they only sometime struggle with expression. Saying that bc she had cp she had no reason to have issues with her sister, sounds super ignorant. I hope this comment doesn't come off as rude, it's just important to give disabilities accurate information. Many people look at someone with a disabilities and see them as unable or less than.

[@CinnapopisGay]

Yes exactly! Thank you!!

[@anonrox]

banger, rt

[@lauraalves001]

believe me, anime doesn't induce anyone into murder, at least not normally, i think

[@akuugawa6914]

seriously though. people like to single out anime as if slasher movies or any violent live action movies don’t exist

[@ragamire2940]

the killing stalking manga gives me the murdering inducing vibes tho lol good thing i quit reading it because it started making me so miserable

[@oppooopoookjgffghjookjjj4531]

@@ragamire2940 it made you miserable because that's the point of it, "Killing Stalker" is a phycological triller. No peace of media can make you feel like killing someone, if you are a mentally stable person with no problems with mind to begin with.

[@ragamire2940]

@@oppooopoookjgffghjookjjj4531 yeah i read it when i wasnt in a very good state of mind but after getting meds and a lil therapy i could read it again 😋👍

[@jameskerr-shaw5834]

Hey Hailey! Just a word of friendly advice for next time u mention disabled people who use wheelchairs! The term wheelchair ridden isn't a term that a lot of us like very much! Just wheelchair user is good! Bc the word ridden makes it sound like the wheelchair is a bad thing that we are confined to, but honestly it gives people so much freedom and life back!

[@DaeHwang867]

I actually really appreciate you saying this! I’ve always just said “wheelchair ridden” or “wheelchair bound”, I had no idea it wasn’t correct! I won’t use that anymore now that I know. Thank you again

[@jameskerr-shaw5834]

@@DaeHwang867 All good dude! Thank u for ur reply! Glad my comment reached someone!! ✨