Look at prison population statistics by ethnicity. Mr Webb does seem to have a point.
@bebopreview31872 жыл бұрын
Again if you look at the actual statistics from the British Government, you will see that for the same crime black people plead innocent more than whites; and, when convicted they receive longer sentences; which seems completely unjust to me. Also, Black people reoffend less then whites.
@pcmjpcmj68542 жыл бұрын
@@bebopreview3187 However the same statistics clearly show that based on percentage of the population certain ethnic minorities manage to get themselves incarcerated far more than others while some other ethnic minorities are under represented in prison based on the size of their population. One example, Muslims make up 4% of the population yet make up over 16% of the prison population.
@bebopreview31872 жыл бұрын
@@pcmjpcmj6854 Plenty of people got arrested for murder during the IRA bombing campaigns of the 70s. The Birmingham Six and Guildford four to name just two. The anti Irish biased that was around at that time was very real and I saw it first hand. I've already stated that minorities receive longer sentences for the same crime and more of them plead innocence. I don't dispute your facts but I do dispute any conclusions that state that this is because ethnic groups are more criminal in nature. For example, if you look at prison populations in America, the criminal justice system is being used to disenfranchise Blacks from voting, and thus change the political map in favour of the Republicans. The thing that makes me mad about him (Webb) is that he uses unsound data, and then doesn't even attempt to explain any reason why these discrepancies are occurring; and implying that there would be 'hardly no murders' if immigration was halted is just a plain straight lie.
@kelboyify2 жыл бұрын
@@bebopreview3187 They reoffend less than Whites? Perhaps that's because they are in prison.
@kelboyify2 жыл бұрын
@@bebopreview3187 Webb does not use unsound data and always provides links to articles/research to back up what he is saying.
@johnbriggs32102 жыл бұрын
You make Simon Webb's point perfectly
@r.j.g.93012 жыл бұрын
Indeed!
@anthonyduffy12782 жыл бұрын
@ Bebop Bad news for you buddy. Simon Webb makes you look like an intellectual pygmy. Whereas I don’t agree with everything he says. He does however present a coherent argument for debate, which is missing from your sad little video. Furthermore, there is a reason why he has 170k subscribers and you have less than 4K subscribers. Your sneering and dismissive style hints at an imbecilic mentality! Cheerio….
@keithwilliams12432 жыл бұрын
Bebop, you are a bare faced liar, Simon is not an ethnic hater, telling the truth is not hate.
@bebopreview31872 жыл бұрын
Yes he is, and he doesn't tell the truth.
@keithwilliams12432 жыл бұрын
@@bebopreview3187 - No he is not and he does tell the truth. Now what evidence do you have that he hates ethnic people and what evidence do you have that he tells lies?
@johnbrennan47592 жыл бұрын
You have missed the point entirely Simons point is that certain types of murder are more likely to be comited by people from certain backgrounds.
@bebopreview31872 жыл бұрын
And people who are thick and stupid say that foreigners are responsible for most of the murders; when the facts show that they are not.
@darrellm99152 жыл бұрын
@@bebopreview3187 Why are you gaslighting?
@65indi2 жыл бұрын
@@darrellm9915 because his a sad little gass lighter
@bebopreview31872 жыл бұрын
@@darrellm9915 You should throw that one at Webb; he is far more of an expert than I.
@juliasmith97472 жыл бұрын
Do you make Webb’s point for him? You mention one group with over 6 times the national average murder rate with the same ethnicity as most of its victims. ‘White' in the example you give includes those from abroad not just this country. Do we have multiculturalism or many self-segregating communities aligned to different cultures? In contrast to what you say I understand that he has many friends from diverse ethnic groups.
@bebopreview31872 жыл бұрын
Donald Trump has many supporters from different ethnic background. Doesn't mean he's right when the evidence suggests that no voting fraud existed in Biden's election, or he was justified inciting the storming of the Capitol building.
@petebauman96302 жыл бұрын
@@bebopreview3187 You fear fact, watch 2000 mules it should terrify your genocidal anti-White bolshi butt.
@kelboyify2 жыл бұрын
@@bebopreview3187 There was plenty of evidence of voting fraud in the US election and much of it filmed, You only have to go to Project Veritas on KZbin (unless taken down) to see many sorts of voting scams all filmed undercover. Collecting votes in their hundreds, paying up to $800 to buy votes in the hundreds and women influencing voters by deceiving them and offering "presents" to the voters. There is much more including the constant refeeding of votes through the machines all in the Democrats' favour. I could go on but your mind is not open to facts so I won't. On the other issue Simon Webb is right and, if I were you, I would not be looking for a job in Data Analytics.
@bebopreview31872 жыл бұрын
@@kelboyify You are a mompara - and you are right I won't be listening to anything you say.
@madelinemardigan33862 жыл бұрын
@@bebopreview3187 Democrats stole the election and the FBI was involved. There is lots of proof. But you're not even going to try to see for yourself.
@zero_ambient2 жыл бұрын
I don't feel you've addressed the point. Your figures don't break down the origins of the white people referred to. You have made the assumption that the white people referred to are British. Thus, you have offered a thesis that is - racist. I'd really be interested in your further analysis on this as the original clip from History Debunked referred to London. Once you are comparing apples with apples, I think you will have a better case.
@nowaskmehow2 жыл бұрын
Of course. Nobody is that stupid. This bebop guy must be a troll or maybe he's never seen a Pollack.
@johnsmith-eh3yc2 жыл бұрын
Even the stats you show have the black population of 3% being prime suspects in almost a 5th of all murders. While your heart bleeds for the disproportionate number of murder victims being black you chose not to mention this. Its ironic that you choose to patronise the black population as token children needing your protection given that they created jazz the most intellectual form of music since the middle ages. Doubt Simon Webb's a fan but you should still be like him and tell it like it is
@johnbrennan47592 жыл бұрын
Simon makes very valid points when it comes to knives machetes and acid they are almost always non British
@bebopreview31872 жыл бұрын
What by reading newspaper clippings? I don't call that valid.
@oldboygeorge76882 жыл бұрын
Not really as Ghana doesn't have these types of crimes. These crimes are committed many by people who have connections to drugs, drugs are used mostly in the Western world and by white people. Mr Webb is just an old school racist, who believes the world is white. Traditional African societies didn't have a need for prisons.
@oldboygeorge76882 жыл бұрын
No, knife crime was highest in Scotland
@oldboygeorge76882 жыл бұрын
Scotland has the highest knife crime. Racist people believe Simon because they share his bullshit
@clivemortimore82032 жыл бұрын
Hahaha John, the UK has a long history of acid attacks, which I pointed out on one of his videos, with the link to prove what I was saying.
@kingtutt64612 жыл бұрын
Bebop even I of assumed; a lower intellect know that Simon Webb states that he is speaking of the murder rate in London. By omitting this fact you can change the factual content of what is being discussed. Intellect omitting common sense. TuTT, TuTT.
@bebopreview31872 жыл бұрын
Non British nationals represent 37% of the population of London. They are responsible for 25% of crime according to the conservative paper The Daily Mail. To get accurate figures of London Murders by non British foreigners you have to contact the Home Office which I have done. Unfortunately they have not replied to my Query. I know that 136 people were murdered in London last year (UK police figure); this accounts to 1.6 per 100,000 people. In Yorkshire where I live the figure was 25 murders; adjusting for population size gives a rate of 0.5 per 100,000. That sounds really bad until you compare to US cities. New York = 3.4 Chicago = 24.1 Philadelphia = 20.1 Dallas = 12.5. Most of the increased death rate in London is due to gang violence and not one of the sources I've looked at states that it is due exclusively to Foreign nationals.
@extramile7342 жыл бұрын
You didn't hear the part about horrible brutal murders? The majority of the pop should be the majority of the criminals. You missed the point, didn't you. : ))
@bebopreview31872 жыл бұрын
I've put a link to his video below so anyone can listen to it. He is quoting only murders reported in London and being very selective. Near where I live in Sheffield a man was reported to have murdered a mother and her daughter and friend. Then he raped the bodies of the ten year old kids. Now that is a shocking murder committed by a white person but he doesn't say anything about brutal white killers - selective prejudice based on small sampling. What do you mean? The majority race of the population are the majority of the criminals, (in homicide) that's white people; I show that. If you mean that the ethnic percentage of killers is higher than whites then Yes I'll agree with you. However, he states that there would be 'almost no murders' in Britain if immigration was halted; which is a complete lie.
@KemetledAfrica2 жыл бұрын
@@bebopreview3187 This is my gripe with Simon, selective reporting.
@stevefoster51382 жыл бұрын
@@bebopreview3187 I take it the horrific murder you commented on, you read about it from a newspaper or heard about from the TV ?
@bebopreview31872 жыл бұрын
@@stevefoster5138 Yes just like him. It won't be in statistics for another year or so. Just showing you I can be selective too.
@65indi2 жыл бұрын
@@KemetledAfrica so you're not selective then🤔
@Thespian-wp6xq2 жыл бұрын
You proved his point admirably.
@TBarton7849 Жыл бұрын
I had a great laugh watching all this "socially unacceptable truth argument " of yours flattened like a pancake. Thanks.
@michaelscales59962 жыл бұрын
One problem we have is that the last Census figures we have are for 2011.It will be interesting to learn what the results of the recent Census show.I believe these are due to be published later this year.One thing we can not dispute is how the make up of our population has changed in the past 10 years due to immigration, which runs into hundreds of thousands annually. Only once this information is available can a sensible statement about this subject be made.
@IdeesDePhysique2 жыл бұрын
Webb is right. You are wrong.
@TBarton78492 жыл бұрын
Nonsense! This is absolute quality and brilliant fact checking instead of Webb's random Daily Mail low level chournalism.
@sbevexlr848 Жыл бұрын
Ok explain how then?
@65indi2 жыл бұрын
You're not to smart and actually make Simons point
@bebopreview31872 жыл бұрын
Neither or you. It's actually 'not too smart'. He states that hardly any murders (in London) would be committed if immigration was stopped. Anyone who believes that has to be a bit thick.
@johnbriggs32102 жыл бұрын
@@bebopreview3187 rubbish
@65indi2 жыл бұрын
@@bebopreview3187 you have to be a bit thick not to understand if they wasn't here killing each other, there would be a lot less killings here, prity simple
@lpj552 жыл бұрын
@@bebopreview3187 "Neither or you." ?
@bebopreview31872 жыл бұрын
@@johnbriggs3210 He say it in his video - watch it.
@andrewegan70112 жыл бұрын
I don't like this channel and the least patriotic Yorkshire man ever. Biut I am staying for the comments.
@Tony-cf8re2 жыл бұрын
Judging by the comments I think most people are on the side of Simon and dont share your view .. In Fact you actually prove him right . I dont know what your occupation is but you really need to keep away from doing this .
@bebopreview31872 жыл бұрын
You lot are idiots. Webb is a racist and you don't see it because that's what you all are as well. Why don't you contact the Home office and find out what the actual rate is among foreign nationals. Do some bloody research! Then come bacdk to me. Webb doesn't know because all he does is quote individual cases from newspapers. He is the worst so-called Historian I've ever come across.
@Tony-cf8re2 жыл бұрын
@@bebopreview3187 Resorting to insults because you have nothing else to debate is a typical response when you realize you are wrong . Swearing is also a good sign you may be wrong . If you use harsher swear words wont make you more right . maybe its not us LOT who are idiots .
@bebopreview31872 жыл бұрын
@@Tony-cf8re Go and tell that to Webb. His videos are all one big insult.
@siphomnisi38422 жыл бұрын
Bepop Review are you South African
@jo18533 Жыл бұрын
@@bebopreview3187 Could you do a video defending grooming gangs please.
@dennish23052 жыл бұрын
It's worth noting from table 29 (appears at 5:25) there is an under representation of white perpetrators who account for only 68.3% yet were 86% of the population in the 2011 census. Black perpetrators account for 18.5% yet were 3.3% of the 2011 population, 5.6 times the number expected. Just looking at the number of black suspects with regards to white homicides they account for 5.5%, an over representation compared to the 2011 population. The number of white suspects for black homicides amount to 3.1% a massive under representation compared to the 86% of the population they represent. Note I calculated my figures based on 836 victims, excluding the 8 where suspect ethnicity was unknown. Of course the data presented in table 29 is for March 2019 - March 2021 and the population will have changed since the 2011 census but there is no denying that black perpetrators are heavily over represented. Asians too are over representation but not to the same degree. While Simon Webb has exaggerated his point using the data we have available (and looking at data from the US) it's likely we will see and increase in homicides as the population becomes less white with the greater risk being to whites from others. EDIT: I used the incorrect figure when calculation "white suspects for black homicides". I've amended the % from 10.6 to 3.1.
@siphomnisi38422 жыл бұрын
Care to account for socio economic reasoning why such is the case
@defaultdefault8122 жыл бұрын
If you calculate the odds ratio of black on black and black on white homocides, versus white on white and white on black, you will see that the data proves Simon's point. For the layman, the most important table is the homocide index figure that demonstrates blacks are much more likely to be victims in homocides and most of those are coming from black suspects. ONS data shows 3.5% of the UK population is black (2019), whereas 84.8% of the population are white british. This means we have to inflate the proportions by 24x to calculate odds. The proportional ratio of a black suspect is actually 6.5:1, i.e the probability of a black suspect is 6.5x higher than a white individual regarding homocide crime. Black on black : white on white is also 4.5:1, i.e a black person is 4.5x more likely to kill a black man than a white man kills a black man. Most interesting is black on white : white on black, which stands at a shocking 42.1:1, i.e a black man killing a white man is 46x times more likely to occur than a white man killing a black man!
@TBarton78492 жыл бұрын
Mate, just popped in to say this is absolute quality and brilliant fact checking instead of Webb's random Daily Mail low level chournalism.
@petef73232 жыл бұрын
You need to open your eyes mate! Have you seen the murder gore videos on the net and social media?? Many carried out in public. All in foreign countries.
@bebopreview31872 жыл бұрын
You are certainly one of Webb's followers. I could give just as many examples of white killers in history. Jack the ripper and the Yorkshire Ripper, the Wests, Amelia Dyer, Shipman, Nilsen, Mary Ann Cotton, Steven Wright. If you are talking of foreign murders the white race hold the record through imperialism and ideology (Nazis Soviets). We are all the same; you get decent and bad people all over the world. If you get an idiot like Webb (or Trump) who stirs up hatred against other groups, and appeals to people who want to reinforce their prejudice, then you end up with the problems encountered in other countries that you point out. I've had trouble with some foreigners but I don't condemn them all on the actions of a few; as Webb does..
@jonsmith207662 жыл бұрын
@@bebopreview3187 The current disproportionate number of violent crimes committed by ethnic minorities is what's relevant and that's what Simon Webb highlights. Nearly all of the examples you give were from the last century, two were from the 1800s. Even the most most recent one you cite were committed around 20 years ago. The most important point being that they were (apart from the holocaust and holodomor examples) committed by Britons on Britons in Britain. Do you think for a moment if there were currently a disproportionate number of violent crimes committed by ethnic Europeans in Ghana or Japan that the Ghanaians or Japanese should neither notice it or not be within their rights to address such a problem?
@petef73232 жыл бұрын
@@bebopreview3187 You're a daydreamer. Suicide bomers, beheadings, acid attacks, honour killings. The list goes on as to what the influx of foreigners have brought to these shores. And the world sort of changed after 1979. I'm not blaming everyone of them but you don't see them ever protesting "@not in my name!" Do you. BTW, did you see the violent rioting in Leicester and Birmingham on the news between MuslimsandSikhs? Neither did I, as they don't want you to see it.
@simondjangothe43492 жыл бұрын
Yorkshire born, Yorkshire bred, strong in th’arm, and……..you know how it goes. You are the living proof of this old but (sometimes) true saying. You great big soggy Yorkshire pudding. Get back down the pit where you belong.
@blueband8114 Жыл бұрын
He said 'almost'.
@visorcover Жыл бұрын
Why is it that people who try and 'debunk' Mr Webb end up inadvertently proving his points? What is your take on 18% of murders in England and Wales being committed by blacks and 35% of murders in London being committed by blacks? There are on the very same worksheet you are looking at. But you will only see what you are looking for, right?
@charlytaylor17482 жыл бұрын
Keep your eyes shut, life is sweeter that way
@tombristowe8462 жыл бұрын
Bebop, you're a bit out of your depth here.
@bebopreview31872 жыл бұрын
In what way?
@tombristowe8462 жыл бұрын
@@bebopreview3187 Sorry for being abrasive; it's so easy to post rude comments on line. I think your argument lacks focus and the way you presented it was a bit chaotic. If you spent more time collecting your evidence and rehearing it you might put across a more coherent case. Also you made what I think is called a "straw man " argument by showing us murder statistics for Britain when what Simon Webb was talking about was the number of murders in London.
@mikedrop4421 Жыл бұрын
Ahh yes, Simon "I'm not racist but" Webb strikes again
@yetti4232 жыл бұрын
i understand where the creator is coming from, but need to add a caution when highlighting white, black and asin suspects by appearnce, that is it needs to be realised not all people coming to this country hare if black and asian apperance, add that to a largely white population then the fugures are prob about right. But think about those crimes that are not being reported as the police are either not answering phones-eve tried the non emergency line. I would suggest remaking this with the figures of how many of the population are white, asain and black as a backdrop to the figures being presented, then it wil become clearer if a diproportinate ammount of newcomers are comitting crimes.
@WhyteZone Жыл бұрын
I'll take a neutral stance on this topic; but I have to ask, do you not think it remotely possible that the same policitians. who lied about WMDs, partygate, PPE contracts e.t.c, and who :- 1/ have an entire Wiki page dedicated to scandals within their parties 2/ have had no less than three parliament website petitions to make lying in parliament an offence 3/ have a webpage dedicated to allegations and complaints against them .... might _just_ be fudging the figures?. It's like the 606,000 net migration figure trotted out by the government a few weeks ago; many people just see the 606,000 and believe that's the number of migrants who have come to the UK. Yet, in reality, it's over a million (925,00 non-EU, 151,000 EU). Westminster is full of liars, ne'er-do-wells and shysters on *both* sides of the political divide; and it has been for decades. Your voice suggests that you're in your forties or early fifties; so surely you know this?.
@bebopreview3187 Жыл бұрын
I agree with what you said but those figures are about as accurate as you will get and are compiled from various sources. They only represent British Citizens of various ethnic backgrounds not foreign nationals. I didn't know at the time that to get figures for non British subjects you have to go through the Home Office. I wrote to them but got no reply. I don't know why the Government doesn't just put Home Office figures up on their web page. When you look it up you only get various reports not precise figures and I'm not going to speculate. If newspapers are relying on these reports then I would say they are not a reliable source of information.
@WhyteZone Жыл бұрын
@@bebopreview3187 Yeah, that's a fair enough point. Not sure if I have a saved PDF copy of a FOI request with detailed stats for foreign national offenders. All I can pull-up with quick search, is this from the University of Oxford website :- "In the year 2000, there were 5,586 foreign national prisoners in England and Wales. However, by March 2021, this figure increased to 9,850, representing a rise of almost 76% in the number of foreign national prisoners in the past two decades. As of March 2021, the foreign national prisoners represent approximately 13% of the total prison population in England and Wales"
@ComradeGiru2 жыл бұрын
Everybody here should look up the video on racial comparisons, by the KZbinr Shaun.
@JS-ny5du Жыл бұрын
SIMON WEBB IS A GOD AMONGST MEN
@michaelnedsmar91062 жыл бұрын
The thing about Simon is as well as being a highly intelligent Man ,successful author & Historian he also does bucket loads of research to back up his claims . He often talks about race in his videos and some might label him as a racist despite giving up his own time when he was younger to educate young black kids ( Pictures shown in the video)kzbin.info/www/bejne/eKXNlnuQmtuVisk I dont agree with all what Simon says but most of what he does is true . I live in an prominently white British area were I can pop to the shops leaving my front door unlocked without the risk of burglars, where muggins and stabbings are extremely rare , a shooting happens once in every 10-12 years . Find me an area in the UK where the occupants are mainly black, Asian or foreign decent where extreme violent crime or Burglaries rarely happens. Taking into account around 80% of the UK are white British I would expect 80% of the 26 people on the NCA most wanted to be white British www.nationalcrimeagency.gov.uk/most-wanted. Not all black , Asian or foreigners that have moved to the UK are violent criminals, a young Sri Lankan couple who run the local convenience store , a Nigerian music teacher who teachs my grand children at school, a Roman cab driver who lives in my road all are great law abiding hard working people .
@chrisjones22242 жыл бұрын
And you call this debunking.
@bebopreview31872 жыл бұрын
Yes! The figures above all show homicides by British citizens which I didn't realize at the time. The figures for foreign nationals are held by the home office and are hard to get hold of. I did contact them but got no reply. Webb implies that there would be no murders in London if it was not for the presence of foreigners. That is simply untrue. The Daily Mail which is a pretty right wing paper states that Foreign nationals who make up for 50% of London's population are responsible for only 30% of crime. I don't know the exact figures but I have not read anywhere that they are solely responsible for all murders in London - and anyway London is pretty peaceful compared to places like Chicago USA which is 15.5 murders per 100,000 population and Mississippi at 20.5 per 100,000. London is 1.5 per 100,000. Sheffield (where I live) is 2 per 100,000 (doubled in last year). I think we will see crime in general rising over the year because of the economic mess the UK is in.
@chrisjones22242 жыл бұрын
@@bebopreview3187 Absolutely deluded, 50% commit only 30% of the crime, well that's okay then! And do please tell regards the gang and knife crime in London, committed in the main by who?
@bebopreview31872 жыл бұрын
@@chrisjones2224 You people speak as though you know it all but give no evidence to back up your prejudice. You are just plain thick - and racist. Everything Webb states is pure garbage.
@chrisjones22242 жыл бұрын
@@bebopreview3187 You people? Careful your Arrogance is showing
@bebopreview31872 жыл бұрын
@@chrisjones2224 So is your racism.
@granvillekeen2 жыл бұрын
Great video
@mattbastubee52552 жыл бұрын
Lol 😆
@KemetledAfrica2 жыл бұрын
I am so glad you have spoken out about this guy I find him very racist and very divisive.
@petebauman96302 жыл бұрын
ANTI-WHITE RACIST
@65indi2 жыл бұрын
Not you again crawl back under your rock
@CIMAmotor2 жыл бұрын
Does he upset you?
@madelinemardigan33862 жыл бұрын
I bet you do. Facts are racist and so is pattern recognition
@KemetledAfrica2 жыл бұрын
@@madelinemardigan3386 Does he upset you
@oldboygeorge76882 жыл бұрын
I am glad someone else is calling out his racism. He should be taken off youtube. The comments from his viewers are terrible and prove racism is alive and kicking.
@garrywynne12182 жыл бұрын
The truth shouldn’t fear questioning if it is the truth. I’m not sure that Simon is a racist to be fair. He links articles for them to be reviewed. The problem as far as I see it is that to refute it it needs counter factual arguments. Bepop doesn’t do this but rather reinforces Simons points by misrepresenting the statistics in the way Bepop represents them. How do I know? The guy who taught me that was actually a brilliant South Asian market researcher. Who was probably darker than most people of African heritage are. The facts are the facts and they don’t care about feelings. Bebop has done a poor rebuttal here.
@darrellm99152 жыл бұрын
You're exactly what's wrong with the modern liberal population. "FACTS ARE RAYCISS!!" Nothing but pure emotion and no logic.
@michaelscales59962 жыл бұрын
Old boy George "Racism is alive and kicking" ? Every football match starts with players taking the knee,every TV advert seems to feature a black person,black actors now get parts usually reserved for white actors. I sat in a supermarket car park recently waiting for my wife and it as very noticeable that every top of the range luxury German car or Range Rover was invariably being driven by a black person.The 10 year old Fords,and Vauxhalls were mainly driven by white people. I was made redundant by my company because they wanted to employ more ethnic minority staff.So please don't tell me racism is alive and kicking,unless you are talking about that shown towards white people.
@clivemortimore82032 жыл бұрын
Some of us have tried to get him removed. One day KZbin may tell me why they don't. I really love his followers who say how bad multicultural Britain is and back it up with saying I am glad I moved out of Britain 40 years ago .....doh!!!! don't that make them immigrants which ever country now has to put up with them?
@petebauman96302 жыл бұрын
ANTI-WHITE RACSIT DETECTED
@xofpiequals40912 жыл бұрын
Did you check your work sheets for the last 50,years for the millions of crimes done by people who no one was ask to allow to enter this country.