Falcon has the Falcon kick and 64 DK has the pathekick.
@Atomicwaffle504 жыл бұрын
But falcon kick is good tho
@swagdrakefan87914 жыл бұрын
Spencer Starks They’re not saying it’s bad. They’re just naming another kick
@genericchannel49104 жыл бұрын
@@swagdrakefan8791 Correct.
@breadbug61014 жыл бұрын
why the hell did it take so long for him to have his roll attack from DKC as his dash attack like it should’ve been from the start?
@genericchannel49104 жыл бұрын
Maybe he was not on roll.
@ABAgamer_4 жыл бұрын
Whenever I do Luigi's dash attack, I always think of the time where Tyler1 was throwing punches in the air while screaming and then falls off his chair.
@Jonathan-gj6mh4 жыл бұрын
ABAgamer 😂👏
@jcast17494 жыл бұрын
LMAOOOOO you're fucking awesome dude
@justyouraveragepersonafan17914 жыл бұрын
Omg now I can’t get it out of my head lol
@sethstoll85254 жыл бұрын
pfffahahaha
@minecraftsteveisinsmash95714 жыл бұрын
0-0
@kamichaos30204 жыл бұрын
When you punch, you can generate more power from your legs. Can't really get that kind of power in the air.
@thundernaut97104 жыл бұрын
Thats exactly what I was gonna comment, good day sir.
@onesaucdragon4 жыл бұрын
Which really makes you question why sword characters' aerials are as strong as their tilts. Seriously, at what point is a swordfighter stronger in the air than on the ground?
@kamichaos30204 жыл бұрын
@@onesaucdragon well I can't really answer that properly, but I do have a theory I like to think about. While it can't be applied to all sword aerials, I like to think of them having momentum from their jump into their swing of the sword. Most of their attacks are strongest at the start of the move no?
@soloRanger5374 жыл бұрын
Yeah but this is a platform fighter lol. I see what they're going for, but i dont remember Snake being an aerial fighter in his games, but he does fine in smash
@Dapuffster4 жыл бұрын
@@onesaucdragon Because unlike the rest of the cast, they designed Little Mac to be like a realistic human boxer fighting in a game where everyone can do unrealistic things. Little Mac is basically the only character in Smash that has to obey the laws of physics somewhat, and there's reason he's bad.
@flyingfish11384 жыл бұрын
Simon’s whip reference is almost more of an Easter egg then a serious attack. I know Sakurai directly showed it in his character trailer, but I still think of it as an interesting little reference/Easter egg, like when taunts do damage.
@danielt77084 жыл бұрын
FlyingFish that’s what I was thinking. While it is one of the worst moves in smash history, it wasn’t really meant to be used as an attack.
@flyingfish11384 жыл бұрын
Daniel T I’ve only ever used it as a fun taunt for when I’ve killed an opponent, or if an opponent is spamming fire balls I’ll swing it around just to show off
@wetlink00964 жыл бұрын
ah yes like luigis spike shoe
@Elijah-fc3ex4 жыл бұрын
I didn't even know you could do that until this very moment
@xxtheguyguyxx44004 жыл бұрын
:p
@davidpotts71164 жыл бұрын
6:04 Despite how frustrating that attack is, it’s actually really close to real life how a grounded punch can break concrete but a punch while airborne can barely crack a stick
@thecoolv1304 жыл бұрын
David Potts so just this once we’re going to pretend we’re fighting in real life? lol
@thecoolv1304 жыл бұрын
Ben Florez lol i’m messing around
@YTAdubz4 жыл бұрын
TheCoolV (CraftyChicken) coward
@justyouraveragepersonafan17914 жыл бұрын
But then how is the funny aerial so effective?
@michabehrendt43543 жыл бұрын
Also cheeseburgers in those gloves ARAN RYAN FOR SMASH
@DJTileTurnip4 жыл бұрын
0:14 "Plenty of great characters" >Shows Ivysaur in Brawl
@helal38404 жыл бұрын
Down air and and up air were still really good though I could see Pokemon trainer using him over squirt or charizard.
@Rarest264 жыл бұрын
Mew2King ranked Ivy as THE worst character in Brawl, even worse than Ganon
@brain_tonic4 жыл бұрын
One of the worst problems for ivy was that most of the cast have fire type moves which are super effective against him. I’m so glad they got rid of typing for ultimate.
@pixelarticuno16364 жыл бұрын
@Fraterz Yeah, tether recoveries in Brawl were awful because if an opponent hangs from the ledge, then the tether can't target the ledge.
@Molten20044 жыл бұрын
@@Rarest26 Worse than Brawl Ganon? Impossible.
@felixayala95084 жыл бұрын
6:01 Mac has cheeseburguers in those gloves
@jeremysimpson5694 жыл бұрын
Nice reference
@PresidentPixel4 жыл бұрын
Aran Ryan: You got cheeseburgers in those gloves have you Mac?
@Muffinmurdurer4 жыл бұрын
I guess you could say they're Big Macs
@yoshixcrossing23554 жыл бұрын
Nah those are Big Macs from McDonald's
@justyouraveragepersonafan17914 жыл бұрын
*hamburger*
@Hugelag4 жыл бұрын
Smash 4 Pac-Man's grab. That is all.
@donovanthefrog1384 жыл бұрын
Please, good sir... Don't remind me...
@MegaPokefan974 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna grab you, get ready, it's gonna happen and --- oh, shit I missed
@Mr.Ze31vil4 жыл бұрын
the vietnam flash backs are coming back
@Sloth_htolS4 жыл бұрын
“You just wait, I’m going to grab you, you are going to get down thrown and then I will hit one, maybe even two forward airs. You will take the entirety of 27%. You will never recover from that.” *misses grab and is punished by warlock punch*
@ImCookieSparx3 жыл бұрын
Oh no, it’s coming back..
@kirbo.an64 жыл бұрын
“Let’s pick on Kirby again” when has kirby not been picked on in a smash game
@scarletvrgames5684 жыл бұрын
64 when he was broken :)
@despacitothree56014 жыл бұрын
@@scarletvrgames568 Exactly. Big brainer
@Dapuffster4 жыл бұрын
He was never picked on in Melee, because he sucks Haha get it
@joshyp23144 жыл бұрын
Ever heard of smash 64?
@swigtimefoxy44224 жыл бұрын
Smash 64: _Am I a joke to you?_
@edgelord83374 жыл бұрын
Some of these moves are straight up broken Luigi's dash attack in melee isn't even finished. Some hit boxes are also really really weird like dks dash attack which despite touching the opponent does no damage and doesn't even hit.
@guangdong68054 жыл бұрын
Melee is just jank. But it's beautiful jank.
@tcd68184 жыл бұрын
It is called a phantom hit. It is when your move is one pixel off and does the damage but not the knockback
@dankmario3294 жыл бұрын
edge lord In smash 64 Luigi’s dash attack was missing its final hit box due to a programming error. The melee team might have thought that it was intentional and kept it like that.
@NessKwik04 жыл бұрын
Luigis dash attack in melee is finished. The development team looked at 64 Luigi and thought thats how the move was supposed to behave
@wilsonklingelhofer10054 жыл бұрын
Quarintined Leon umm.. he not talking about a phantom hit, he’s just saying the moves hit box doesn’t stay out long enough. You can see this by looking at how he says no damage or knock back, phantom hits have damage at least.
@ejhclips18774 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure little macs character design was inspired heavily by realistic boxing. In boxing the power of the punch is related to how you have your feet on the ground. Thats why little mac sucks in the air. You're welcome.
@BigForAHedgehog4 жыл бұрын
He was purposefully made to be terrible in the air.
@toseethewayout50244 жыл бұрын
@@BigForAHedgehog your stupid your life is dum ass hel fuck you
@mauricephillips10054 жыл бұрын
@to see the way out Omg your triggered 😂
@bensonhatch54233 жыл бұрын
“The power of the punch it related to how you have your feet on the ground” well I mean sort of, bit mostly it’s in your upper body and how you move your body to generate more momentum, you can’t so, well a punch is only based on legs because that’s just not true
@iliakatster3 жыл бұрын
On the other hand swords are famous for being really easy to swing in the air.
@voltingmaster54584 жыл бұрын
What were the devs smoking when they made Spinphony?!
@InnSpire64 жыл бұрын
Nintendo 1: Alright guys we have 12 more custom moves to make, someone make up something quick I'm getting sick of all of this brainstorming. Nintendo 2: Ooo OOOO! Jigglypuffs sing but it has Mario's cape effect! Nintendo 1: You freaking genus! But wait, isn't that to op? Nintendo 2: Dang you right, how about it just makes the opponent take 1% and puts them into stun for a half a second. Nintendo 1: Alright, and how about I make it be SUPER laggy? Nintendo 2: Yea, yea.
@fissilewhistle4 жыл бұрын
What were they smoking when they were balancing Jigglypuff in general?
@kristianperez41084 жыл бұрын
Hey wouldn't that straight up hard counter Yoshi seeing as his upb isn't a recovery?
@fissilewhistle4 жыл бұрын
kristian perez No, because first, it would have to actually hit Yoshi, which isn’t going to happen unless the person controlling him puts down the controller and goes to make a sandwich, and second, it only turns people around if they’re close to Jigglypuff.
@kristianperez41084 жыл бұрын
@@fissilewhistle Fair enough.
@iskamag4 жыл бұрын
mewtwo’s side b doesn’t have a use glitches: allow us to introduce ourselves
@Quackra4 жыл бұрын
Though that glitch is banned because it is broken
@iskamag4 жыл бұрын
GamingTenderizer yet taking a stock from a grab is still allowed
@Quackra4 жыл бұрын
@@iskamag Actually Wobbling is banned in 90% of Melee tournaments now and the Soulstunner glitch was more broken than that in doubles even though it is not possible with the current set of rules. Edit: sorry not the freeze glitch that is banned as well
@iskamag4 жыл бұрын
GamingTenderizer waiting until puff stalling gets banned
@Quackra4 жыл бұрын
@@iskamag There is already a ledge grab limit for that.
@Wheaty034 жыл бұрын
I feel like Simon's whip dangle is more of an extension of his neutral attacks rather than an attack that can be counted by itself
@Kobrah_4 жыл бұрын
Hayden Wheatley gentleman and rapid jab are different so i think it should be too
@kimotokirby16013 жыл бұрын
Well, it has its own place in the tips, so... i think that counts as a diferent move? Not even have a name tho.
@kennynguyen49844 жыл бұрын
I got hit by Luigi Dash Attack in Ultimate at least 47 times in the span of 5 matches, so I can safely say that they liked the change
@swigtimefoxy44224 жыл бұрын
Most projectiles: decent/good Bowser Jr’s cannon: [insert a picture of regigigas here]
@Vinlie4 жыл бұрын
Someone has noodle arms if he’s questioning why a boxer can’t have the same power behind his punches in midair as opposed to being grounded.
@patheticperson52944 жыл бұрын
Mewtwo’s forward b is bad. Mewtwo at the ledge in battlefield: EaSY gIMp BOi
@Nobody-uj8oo4 жыл бұрын
I was about to comment that thank you
@peterduprey72864 жыл бұрын
I wish it was like that in ultimate
@jeh89444 жыл бұрын
ik but its side b not forward b
@xx_v_xx43734 жыл бұрын
@@peterduprey7286 at least he gets a kill combo with it in Ultimate.
@justyouraveragepersonafan17914 жыл бұрын
*f o r w a r d s p e c i a l*
@percyfreaks4 жыл бұрын
I think the reasoning behind macs terrible airials comes from the fact that most of your strenght comes from your legs. You should try punching something while in the air.
@DryBonesandSilver4 жыл бұрын
Peach's down smash in brawl. Went from an amazing attack in melee to straight up useless.
@Blue-gj4lj4 жыл бұрын
6:08 Momentum. You see, punches on the ground thrown by Little Mac are grounded by the friction of the, well, the ground. Have you every seen somebody try to punch someone well falling in the air?
@TusksTheAxew4 жыл бұрын
Checks out, but then you get the second question of, why in the hell does only Little Mac obey the laws of physics and momentum? Solid Snake, another realistic human (albeit stronger than Little Mac) has good aerials; his aerials are kicks, yeah, but wouldn't they work similarly? If anything, i'd expect aerial kicks to be even harder than an aerial punch. Ken, Ryu, Terry and Joker fall into similar territory, though they're less realistic than Mac or Snake.
@yungmuney59034 жыл бұрын
@@TusksTheAxew Because that is what makes Little Mac a unique character. Every other character you compared are more fantastical
@KevSB074 жыл бұрын
yung muney how is Ryu fantastical? How is snake fantastical? It doesn’t make little Mac unique, it makes him out of place.
@TusksTheAxew4 жыл бұрын
@@yungmuney5903 I mean, Ryu, Ken and Terry have fancy power balls and energy waves and what have you, but Snake is just a human male stealth operative, with the only special thing going for him being he's the son/clone of the best solider alive...but in every Metal Gear game, he's bound to more realistic laws in terms of what he can do (he can take down a tank with the right weapons, but not lift it or punch it to death) and what he can handle (he gets knocked out by a single hit to the back of the head once). There's nothing fantastical about him. If anything, he's *MORE* realistic than Little Mac, as Little Mac can transform into Giga Mac; not possible in real life.
@alexlee93854 жыл бұрын
@@TusksTheAxew well yes but Mac's whole character concept is the underdog boxer, so when making his move set you pull inspiration from boxing.
@spixie21184 жыл бұрын
Please more "moves in smash history" videos they are so interesting
@TheLemonyBard4 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: the Luigi dash attack in 64 was supposed to have a finisher, but literally one number in a line of code made it not work properly.
@keksidy4 жыл бұрын
6:03 his punches are only strong on the ground because you get more power from a punch standing than in the air. This polarization of ground vs. air game only applies to Mac because aside of a few things like his Star Punch and being able to contend with champions, he's just a normal kid.
@bensonhatch54233 жыл бұрын
Yes and in the original NES game his star punch is landed after he JUMPED INTO THE AIR. Little macs strongest punch is after jumping into the air. Plus his side b is also an airborne punch that packs a punch proving he can have powerful punches in the air. Basically Nintendo is dumb
@OkthenBi4 жыл бұрын
Can I see the comments? youtube: Well yes, but actually no
@AlexEXE4 жыл бұрын
Tell me about it!
@cadethecrustycreature4 жыл бұрын
Ikr
@viruspokegamer1294 жыл бұрын
Why is my comments section normal?
@OkthenBi4 жыл бұрын
@@AlexEXE There were two comments but they wouldn't let me see them ;(
@smashfan21754 жыл бұрын
Why is the coments moved
@JakusKugelchen4 жыл бұрын
The only reason to use mewtwo's reflector to glitch out the opponent of the stage
@mr.boombox50214 жыл бұрын
6:01 Hi, I'm the representative for Aran Ryan of the World Circut. I can confirm that Little Mac's gloves are in fact filled with cheeseburgers.
@Jear96824 жыл бұрын
6:04: So his punches are strong on the ground but not in the air? Can somebody explain this to me? Dude, have you ever seen somebody in boxing jump and use an aerial attack, let alone above them? There's a reason you learn footing as one of the first basics in boxing.
@Jear96824 жыл бұрын
Then against I'm defending Little Mac in a Smash Bros Game.
@scarletvrgames5684 жыл бұрын
I wasn't aware of mewtwo's reflect not working in Melee. That's an oof and its really amazing how every new character except falco was basically unfinished
@seanmyster64 жыл бұрын
Hilarious how broken Melee is, and yet people still insist it's the best one.
@NessKwik04 жыл бұрын
seanmyster6 people understand the flaws with melee they just know whats its oike to combo someone and have fun playing a game. I get that kirby is bad but. The top 10 characters in melee are more fun to play once you get the hang of them than any other smash game
@scarletvrgames5684 жыл бұрын
@@seanmyster6 Melee just made smash gain a competitive scene. The game never really took off before it.. so while it is a clunky broken mess, it is a huge landmark in smash history
@MrMrkevin774 жыл бұрын
Melee is perfectly unbalanced.
@Themonkeymartin4 жыл бұрын
Marth, Doc, Young Link, Zelda and Sheik aren't really unfinished tho
@Springdude114 жыл бұрын
I mean, if you're in the air, you can't really build up as much energy then if you were on the ground, nor would be as powerful, partially because you would have to use some energy to jump up in the first place.
@KevSB074 жыл бұрын
Springdude 11 glad this only applies to little Mac.
@Springdude114 жыл бұрын
@@KevSB07 considering he's the most ordinary human out of all the characters, it makes sense.
@KevSB074 жыл бұрын
@@Springdude11 Does it though? If he's the most ordinary, then why are his smash attacks so strong and why are they super-armored?
@Springdude114 жыл бұрын
@@KevSB07 1. I mean, other than smash bros balancing, I'm pretty sure it would hurt if you just got punched in the face by a champion boxer. 2. Again, other than Smash Bros balancing, adrenaline?
@KevSB074 жыл бұрын
@@Springdude11 I don't see these as proper reasons to make his design so polarizing.
@qcaggro4 жыл бұрын
"Whether they're too slow" Sonic on screen
@peterduprey72864 жыл бұрын
There was a Mii Brawler down b in Smash 4 called Foot flurry, which is basically a downward version of the flashing Mach punch attack in Ultimate. It was pretty awful.
@Coffeequeen6734 жыл бұрын
6:01 I will have you know there are cheeseburger in those gloves
@haywardbarrows59064 жыл бұрын
There is a reason Aran Ryan is the Wiimake’s fan favourite
@TerrorWinds4 жыл бұрын
On Little Mac "His punches are strong on the ground but not in the air, can someone explain this to me?" That's because on the ground, you can use your entire body as leverage to throw a stronger punch. If you try to punch while in the air, you only have the muscles in your arm and shoulder behind it instead of your entire torso and even your legs too powering a punch. In an ideal punch, you want to take a step forward so you can use that leg to push yourself closer as you punch. You want to rotate your upper body towards the punch, adding more momentum. You want to pull your shoulder back before the punch so you get the maximum distance your fist can travel. So much more goes into it than just arm strength that simply wouldn't work without being on the ground.
@Moss_Dude4 жыл бұрын
Little mac is bad in the air because 1: he's a normal human and 2: boxers use their legs to add impact to their punches. Also, kirby's up throw in melee removes all of his jumps.
@zFunnyBoy_4 жыл бұрын
wouldnt you consider someone like wii fit trainer or snake to be in the same 'human' category as mac though as well
@Ven-zg3fj4 жыл бұрын
I would put ganon’s ultimate up tilt here as well. Slow as all hell, weaker than warlock punch and fsmash, and it just gives opponents massive free punishes when it gets buffered instead of an jump->uair. It’s rare that having an option is an active detriment to a character, but this is one of those cases. I’d rather ganon have no up tilt at all.
@aulaurenceg4 жыл бұрын
Re: "[Mac's] punches are strong on the ground but not in the air?" Of course, this is all fiction in a game, but a big part of boxing (and martial arts, for that matter) is your footwork. Your legs provide the majority of your power in your punches. Hence punching in the air would not have near as much impact. (Though it's weird that they chose to be this realistic for just this character).
@TusksTheAxew4 жыл бұрын
Even weirder considering Snake, the only other realistic human (albeit stronger than LIttle Mac), has godly aerials in terms of power, but still somewhat poor jumps. He may be a soldier and CQC expert rather than a boxer, but he still utilises a lot of martial arts moves.
@kristianperez41084 жыл бұрын
@@TusksTheAxew Plenty of characters do, but that's all Little Mac has. Of course they're going to make the character that's all about boxing the most boxing like character.
@michaelbesser53484 жыл бұрын
6:00 "YOU PROBABLY GOT CHEESEBURGERS IN THOSE GLOVES, HAVE YOU MAC?!?"
@haywardbarrows59064 жыл бұрын
Aran Ryan
@newhandlesaredumb4 жыл бұрын
64 Luigi's dash attack is slightly unfinished. It was supposed to have a head hitbox at the end of the attack, knocking back the opponent. The same goes for Melee Luigi. If you're able to, then you can go into the hitbox code and change it.
@qwertywerty742 Жыл бұрын
"What are inside those gloves? Marshmallows?" we were this close.
@geekey34414 жыл бұрын
First thought: Yoshi Side Special
@grape_protogen4 жыл бұрын
On top of that, Neutral Special! Who, in a serious situation, is going to use Neutral Special? It's basically a shorter shield brake with only a tiny window to punish as the opponent breaks out. Maybe you can attack the enemy with a few side smashes to deal a bit of percent, but you can't do too much with it other than that and just throwing them off the stage!
@mosalhusari4 жыл бұрын
Grape the Protogen it’s actually not bad and u can use it to punish opponents that shield a lot
@grape_protogen4 жыл бұрын
@@mosalhusari True
@CreepyBlackDude4 жыл бұрын
@@grape_protogen At higher percents, it takes much longer to mash out of, and hey, that's free time to just pile on damage. Reduced damage, sure, but free damage is free damage. You can also catch them completely off guard with b-reverse, and if they're on the edge, that's the end for them. All that being said...I will agree that it's very situational, and highly punishable if you miss.
@Link-si3qs4 жыл бұрын
At 6:01, when professional boxers punch they aren’t just using their arms, the best boxes turn and use the most muscles possible to add to their power. It’s an actual form you need to work on with timing for when to turn your hips or step forward with your legs
@d3adlock3d514 жыл бұрын
3:09 Mario's head should've been gone on the floor rolling off stage.
@theovergoat4 жыл бұрын
I've done a few years of martial arts training, and I learned that you generate most of the power from your torso, and to do that properly, you need to be connected to the ground. Just swinging/flailing your arm without technique/thought won't be as strong and as effective as a well connected strike. In this sense, Little Mac's punches not being as strong in the air make perfect sense. He cannot channel enough force because he's not connected to the ground, and I'm pretty sure that with the exception of some Fire Emblem characters, literally every other fighter in Smash has some kind of special power and he's just a dude with boxing gloves
@victorstancu85484 жыл бұрын
1:28 This must be the work of an enemy stand!
@friskycalibri22933 жыл бұрын
What's funny is that Hammer Flip is absolutely BUSTED in every Kirby game it's in except the Fighters duology.
@Zetton1991984 жыл бұрын
6:01 Cheeseburgers apparently.
@MorrisPXG4 жыл бұрын
RIP Tony Stark
@haywardbarrows59064 жыл бұрын
FIGHTING’S LIKE BREATHING MAC!!!! Aran Ryan
@Pigmcginnyrig4 жыл бұрын
If this video was a person’s only knowledge on custom moves, they’d think that custom moves are useless.
@jean-christopheschnepp49134 жыл бұрын
"YA ONLY GOT CHEESEBURGER IN THOSE GLOVES MAC"
@ENJIEER2 жыл бұрын
6:07 when you're punching something hard, not only your arm used, aslo legs and body. If you punch while in the air, you, so to speak, have nothing to lean on your feet and this is how massive part of the power is gone.
@Hose_104 жыл бұрын
4:32 oh trust me, *I remember*
@BaronSterling4 жыл бұрын
I legitimately thought he was showing DK's dash attack in slow motion at first...
@3.2187_Kilometres4 жыл бұрын
Surprised you didn't mention Ivysaur's up B in brawl because the other player could just hang onto the ledge and Ivysaur wouldn't be able to recover and unlike ultimate he can't change Pokémon fast enough to try and recovery with Charizard. Edit: 6:18 Kirby's hammer flip is great in brawl :(.
@Angry57044 жыл бұрын
He did a video on the worst RECOVERY moves ins Smash, and it made the list, obviously.
@N120154 жыл бұрын
I really miss that hammer. It was a good form to punish airdodges (use an airdodge and the second hit will be a powerful semi-spike instead of just a powerful hit), and it could be a great move outside a kill confirm in smash 4, but they decided to make this move frame 28 AT BEST for some reason, istead of frame 16/34.
@Angry57044 жыл бұрын
Actually, Pokemon Change (Sorry about the e, my stupid accent addon isn't working.) can't be used in midair in Brawl at all.
@3.2187_Kilometres4 жыл бұрын
@@Angry5704 Even better that makes Ivysaur's up B even worse.
@Angry57044 жыл бұрын
@@3.2187_Kilometres I know, right?
@cullenkrishna50684 жыл бұрын
Mac has such weak arials because, realistically, strong punches come from an opposite force being a boxer's legs pushing into the floor
@jeh89444 жыл бұрын
This is just Watch Mojo or The Gamer but with more than 2 brain cells
@mariajimenafigueroa2333 жыл бұрын
And no clickbait
@Vertical08273 жыл бұрын
3:13 Mario: this is fine
@jesusblessedmemes24654 жыл бұрын
Little mac cannot punch in the air because he is one of the few characters that obey the laws of physics. A punch applies force in the direction you punch and air is like punching a wall or trying to punch underwater but a lot less of a force. These are all called standing forces unless they start to move. So... not only is a force counter measuring Mac whilst in the air he is also off balanced. Last time I checked I don"t see Little Mac with thrusters on his back so he shouldn't even be able to correct his movement at all but then again, it is just a game.
@project_lightblue8774 жыл бұрын
I wish more people saw this. Respect.
@KevSB074 жыл бұрын
Yeah but why does this matter in smash? Peach’s fair should be weak then, no? Snake’s aerial kicks do smash attack damage. How about any other melee aerial, including sword slashes? The logic checks out but why little Mac?
@demolitiongod644 жыл бұрын
@@KevSB07 To make him unique and play differently from other characters.
@jesusblessedmemes24654 жыл бұрын
KevSB07 Well I think that because in normal boxing you’re technically not supposed to leave the ground and it’s also a good balancer. If Mac had at least decent aerials and jump height then he would be busted
@KevSB074 жыл бұрын
@@demolitiongod64 He doesn't have a problem with being unique. There are no other boxer-like characters except Incineroar and maybe Ryu/Ken and Wii Fit. Terry would be quite a stretch to compare to little mac, too. Nobody plays like he would, and even then I'd still prefer a character who is less diverse than a character whose design forces camping and constant evasion. If Little Mac had normal aerials and normal ground moves and a normal recovery, he would be just as unique as he is now, without all the polarizing strengths and weaknesses that break the game against or for him at random points.
@EduardoFlores-bt4fo4 жыл бұрын
I shall explain the thing about Little Mac and his punch. You see, when you throw a punch, you, as a human being, do not punch with your fist, or rather, do not take force just from your fist or your arm, but from your legs. When you throw a punch in a good stance, you create strength from the legs, you channel it from the movement of your hips and you release it with your arm. That's why boxers are trained to stand in a certain way, to be able to take as much energy as possible. The reason Little Mac's punches are not good in the air is that he doesn't have any kind of leg support to throw his attacks. That is the reason his air moves don't work in the air.
@Alex-jz2hk4 жыл бұрын
6:04 Can someone explain me how the basics of human fighting styles? Our strength goes from the leg-> the hips->Torso->Fists Its basic shit for anyone who has knowledge of any fighting style (every single one of them without exception) Thats why it would make 0 sense Little mac having strong aerials
@chrisouellet63984 жыл бұрын
if thats the case then mario fair would be weak, plus its a video game
@Alex-jz2hk4 жыл бұрын
@@chrisouellet6398 2 things 1. Are you like mario? 2. And what? He asked a question and explained why
@TusksTheAxew4 жыл бұрын
Cool, but this is Smash, not real life; even Snake, another normal, realistic human and a brawler, is great in the air. If Little Mac's aerials are bad because he's human and uses real physics, so should Snake's, and arguably Falcon's, Luigi's, Mario's, Samus's and Inkling's. That may be the only explanation but it's not a great one. "Basic shit" or not, Smash is a highly unrealistic video game, so don't act like a know-it-all; we all know we're useless in the air, fighting or otherwise. Also, considering Little Mac is a video game character in a heavily air based game where even Piranha Plant, a literal bloody potted plant, has a strong air game, it makes no sense that his aerials ARE poor. Also, for "are you like Mario", you literally said yourself that applies to all fighting styles. Physics also applies to everyone, including Mario. His aerials *should* be crap if we're keeping this realistic. Don't be snarky.
@Alex-jz2hk4 жыл бұрын
@@TusksTheAxew in every single one of the characters you mentioned make sense on their aerials They do not obey the laws of physics like US HUMANS (look the anime of F/zero and tell me he is a normal human) Snake is a super soldier similar to Cap. America he is a modified clone of the best soldier of all time And Smash is not Realistic but it design the feel of their characters on how they would be Mac is the PERFECT example of that Ohh and one last thing What characters aerials are Stronger than their smash attacks
@TusksTheAxew4 жыл бұрын
@@Alex-jz2hk ...yet in his home game except for the remake of the first game, Snake falls like a brick and has no aerial capabilities or air attacks whatsoever. Not even Venom Snake, Big Boss, Naked Snake or what have you shows any aerial capabilities, with Snake's poor jumps in Smash reflecting that, and Metal Gear 1 through 4 are somewhat realistic in terms of what humans are capable of. In fact, only Raiden and the Metal Gear Rising characters show good air capabilities from what I remember. And then Inkling...they're kids. And they're stronger than Mac, while being child hybrids of a aquatic creature, in an game that doesn't even have melee attacks (only Brushes and Rollers) or much air-based combat. Go figure. Also, Smash Attacks outdamage almost every attack as that's their role, even Specials usually; you have no point there. But if we're arguing in terms of kill power and how easy it will usually kill, almost any character with a spike has an aerial move stronger than their Smash Attacks; R.O.B. and Donkey Kong for two examples, and Snake with his forward air for another. Funnily enough, even Inkling has a potent spike using a melee attack with their Splattershot. Another final thing of note; if we really want to keep him accurate to real life, Little Mac shouldn't have a double jump. Or a move that makes his fists burst into flames. Or the KO Punch. Or literally any kind of aerial recovery or momentum. His home game would also eliminate all of those except for the KO punch, as he doesn't really jump in his home game nor have any aerial combat. He's still misrepresented despite his sacrifice of poor aerials, so that goal was lost. And if you argue he has to have a double jump and a recovery because this is Smash...well in that case, he should also have at least decent aerials, now, shouldn't he? Because this is Smash, not Punch Out.
@douglasstuffie3 жыл бұрын
Downward angled forward tilt in melee for Luigi. I’ve heard that it doesn’t even ko at 999%. Just try it
@kymat_13874 жыл бұрын
I know it wasn't a real question and everyone knows this, but I might as well put this knowledge to use anyway. The power from a punch starts from the legs, is channelled through the torso, and delivered through the arm, so if you're in the air, there's no firm base for you to drive your fist with. You're just relying on the force your arm can provide by itself.
@sovietbreadcrum72204 жыл бұрын
One of the main design flaws of Little MAC is that he is made to be so much like a boxer, that it does more harm than good. When your boxing a ton of hitting power comes from the hips and explosiveness of the legs. Without the support of the ground, a hard punch is nearly impossible. You can even try this yourself, just stand still without moving your legs or hips and try to punch, then do one with correct form. You’ll notice a large difference of power between the two.
@michaelcross76653 жыл бұрын
Forgot yoshi dash grab in melee. The hitbox goes behind the target and misses entirely
@blade54454 жыл бұрын
I really cant put it into words how nostalgic your intro makes me feel.
@TotPocket2 жыл бұрын
Little Mac up-air: "What are inside those gloves? Marshmallows?" Me, an intellectual: "He got cheezburgers in dem gloves!"
@seniorshrek61974 жыл бұрын
I despise it when people go in Simon’s whip dangle thing in full detail. THE MOVE IS A LITERAL EASTER EGG. I don’t think a single developer intended it to be used as an attack, just like I don’t think a single person on this platform needs an explanation.
@TusksTheAxew4 жыл бұрын
There's also Piranha Plant when he gets footstooled, which is a similar Easter Egg. Yes, he "attacks", but it's not really meant to kill; it's there for giggles.
@seniorshrek61974 жыл бұрын
Ky Taylor that to
@roundy47173 жыл бұрын
I’m honestly shocked you didn’t include Ganondorf’s up tilt from Melee. With how absurdly long he just keeps his leg up in the air before attacking, it’s like he’s just begging to be punched in the nuts lmao
@alicon8524 жыл бұрын
6:04 simple. Punches aren't actually entirely about the force of your hands, a big part of it is actually the leverage from your feet. but you don't have leverage if your feet aren't touching the ground.
@R.E.C.20043 жыл бұрын
Hero: "let me introduce you to metal slash"
@francessantos61693 жыл бұрын
In Super Smash Bros. N64. Mario : "Seriously? You call that-a kick, DK? It's-a more like-a pathekick, to-a me!" Then he laughed at Donkey Kong! Donkey Kong : "Damn! My dash attack are really pathetic..... I really need a new dash attack... ASAP!" In Super Smash Bros. 4 Mario : "Seriously, Little Mac... What's in your boxing gloves? Marshmallows? Your attacks is stronger on the ground, but in the air much weaker. How lame is that!" Little Mac hang his head down in shame.
@kuvxwbmas62 Жыл бұрын
“What does he have in those gloves? Marshmallows?” Aran Ryan: ya got cheese burgers in those gloves have ya Mac?
@nicc84514 жыл бұрын
6:04 Little Mac is mostly based off real human boxing, with his stance/idle animation and everything. Right now, stand up, jump, and throw out a punch. You're much weaker than if you were standing on the ground because that's how the human body simply functions. While they took this weakness of Little Mac to a bit of an extreme sense, that's why it's so weak.
@d-boi97853 жыл бұрын
‘What are in those gloves, marshmallows?’ Such a missed opportunity. Anyone who has fought Aran Ryan will know what I’m on about.
@SaltedNeos4 жыл бұрын
I'll never forget that one accidental kill I got with Spinphony... was just fucking around with bad Puff customs in school with a few buddies... I accidently gimped with Spinphony.
@mynameis_ehe83734 жыл бұрын
6:04 Mac can't push off the ground using his legs for that extra power when punching if he's in the air.
@ababble3934 жыл бұрын
I honestly don’t agree with Kirby’s side B being “one of the worst moves in smash history” while it is pretty laggy, unlike other charge up attacks, Kirby can move around and jump similar to Dedede’s Down B, it also catches under ledge if they are hanging there. To be honest, Byleth’s Down B is worse
@mettatonex72214 жыл бұрын
I would agree with you on Mewtwo's Confusion, but there was a glitch in Melee that made opponents stuck in it fall through the stage when Mewtwo used it off-stage, making it incredibly difficult to recover if they weren't a Pokemon or Kirby.
@Jarekthegamingdragon Жыл бұрын
Mewtwo's confusion doesn't belong here. It's good in the air, especially off stage
@chilly21264 жыл бұрын
When you footstool plant while he's crouching. He does a small bite. It's so slow the opponent can counter air dodge or do anything to not get hit. Even if you do get hit by it, it has no damage and never kills
@chilly21264 жыл бұрын
@Samuel Krebs it's still a move
@chilly21264 жыл бұрын
Or an attack
@petery64324 жыл бұрын
@Samuel Krebs The whip dangle is also an Easter egg and he counted it, so why not Plant's Footstool attack?
@KevSB074 жыл бұрын
Peter yeaman because the footstool attack isn’t something you can use. You can’t tell someone “don’t use this moves it’s not useful” like you can with Simon
@chilly21264 жыл бұрын
@@KevSB07 it's an attack. It has a hitbox and it can be used in a match just like every other move
@MonadoJoJo4 жыл бұрын
When I think of awful Smash moves, I always think of Ganon's Up Tilt, Ike's Old Up Smash, and Olimar's recovery in Brawl
@woxyinaboxy3243 жыл бұрын
Kirbys hammer flip in Brawl was kind of insane. It was insanely quick and insanely powerful.
@Metalc3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it was so broken lol
@justyouraveragepersonafan17914 жыл бұрын
Alex said that you could mash out of Kirby’s up and back throws, but in fact, you only have to hit up one time and Kirby just yeets himself off the stage into oblivion
@bandi6423 жыл бұрын
6:30 there is a very interesting video about how that move is underrated
@intentionaldisaster56043 жыл бұрын
6:35 It is extremely effective against my younger brother because he starts laughing so much he drops his controller
@vietnamgamer94904 жыл бұрын
I think Mewtwo’s side B from melee was underrated, entirely because of his ability to pull people through the stage.
@Kirbman3 жыл бұрын
Luigi's dash attack in 64 was actually meant to have a finishing hitbox, but for some reason it's disabled.
The reason why punching in the air isnt as strong as punching on the ground is due to you having your legs set in the ground to boost your arm strengh, you have a stable terrain to concentrate your strengh and punch harder, for example have you ever trying to punch while falling? You will notice the difference in strengh due to not having a solid ground to wind up your punch, the only circumstances tht you can punch harder on the air is by punching right off from a high jump (this is similar to a rising kick where you take advantage of your momentum) or if you take advantage of the gravity by punching downwards while falling. Anyways, Little Mac's down aerial should be strong at least on a fast fall
@KevSB074 жыл бұрын
Wonder why snakes aerials do smash attack damage then
@jakeoflinespiano99364 жыл бұрын
MewTwo’s Confusion (f special) could clip some characters through the stage from the ledge in Melee, so it did have some use.
@the_bookworm82814 жыл бұрын
Yes, but it only works on certain stages, and it doesn't really work if the opponent is aware of it, which is rare because no one uses Melee Mewtwo.
@chandlercharge97504 жыл бұрын
I agree with everything on this list except for kirby's side B in ultimate. the fully charged version is predictable so I don't use that often but I get plenty of kills using a quick side B with my boy kirby
@gregorymirabella14234 жыл бұрын
luigi's dash attack was bugged in 64. he was supposed to have a headbutt attack at the end, (which is still seen in the animation) but the hitbox for it doesn't load. the same thing happened to samus's up air. the devs might've thought this was intentional when designing melee, since he has the same headbutt animation but there's no hitbox at all. quick side note, most of a punch's force comes from the lower half of your body, which is why little mac can do serious damage on the ground, but is almost useless in the air.
@belkaberserk4 жыл бұрын
Pacman’s grab in Sm4sh, I don’t know how long it lasts, but I think it was something insane like 76 frames, where only 6-9 frames actually grab the opponent.
@JustAPrinnyDood4 жыл бұрын
"What are inside those gloves, marshmallows?" Nope, cheeseburgers.
@isiahspeicher73883 жыл бұрын
That moment of silence for Melee Ganon caught me dead.
@GiantButterKnife4 жыл бұрын
I just found your channel, and I've been binging your smash content. As much as I'm enjoying the "Worst X in Smash History" series, it would be interesting to complement it with a "best X in Smash History" series.
@blueguy98334 жыл бұрын
Links recovery in n64 might be the worst recovery out of any character in any smash game
@capnfluff2428 Жыл бұрын
6:00 it's actually cheeseburgers! -Aran Ryan
@mineclon21294 жыл бұрын
6:04 that’s because he is designed to be a BOXER. You don’t see boxer throwing punches in the air in a fight.
@berez3264 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: In melee, Mario and Luigi's down angeled forward tilt has a set knockback of 1, meaning it never kills. For comparison, Fox's shine that also has set knockback has a knockback value of 80. Because of the non-existent knockback and puny hit stun, you will always get punished if you land this move. Another fun fact: in brawl, they fixed Mario's DAFT and made it normal but Luigi's still has a set knockback of 1 with barely any hitsun