The WORST Bad Beat In Poker History

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Doug Polk Poker

Doug Polk Poker

Күн бұрын

This is absolutely brutal. Imagine having the ace high flush, also generally known as the "nut flush", piling in hundreds of thousands of dollars, and still losing. That's exactly what happened to Andy Stacks on ‪@HustlerCasinoLive‬. Could anything have been done to avoid this fate?

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@Andystackspoker
@Andystackspoker Жыл бұрын
Yes, this was a massive cooler but looking at the river play, it was also one of the worst hands I have EVER played in my career, a gigantic gift to Mariano that I will make sure never happens again. Thx for the breakdown Doug.
@ThisIsMyYoutubeAcct
@ThisIsMyYoutubeAcct Жыл бұрын
At least you have the ability to look back and acknowledge your mistakes. Obviously will improve your game moving forward.
@mrlenejo
@mrlenejo Жыл бұрын
Your reaction (or more so not reacting) when losing that hand is pure class. You should be proud of that. I think 99.9% of us would lose in that hand regardlass of who our opponent was. It's just so unlikely to flop this kind of hand.
@marcopolodeoliveira8347
@marcopolodeoliveira8347 Жыл бұрын
We all lose our house, car, and mortgage there Andy. Nothing to be ashamed about when you say this is the worst hand you’ve played in your career
@odysseusnissan
@odysseusnissan Жыл бұрын
I know it absolutely sucked! But you handled it with class and I don't think any of us could've gotten away from it.
@satujodasrivathsav3050
@satujodasrivathsav3050 Жыл бұрын
Andy you have the absolute worst luck. But you take every bad beat like a champ. It’s only a matter of time till the tides change. You are awesome.
@davewatson3398
@davewatson3398 Жыл бұрын
Words you never hear- “I folded an ace high flush because I thought he had a straight flush”.
@HabibVentures
@HabibVentures 6 ай бұрын
I did that early in my poker career but wouldn't do it today 😅
@marvellkanmomixa1997
@marvellkanmomixa1997 6 ай бұрын
Best ive done is folded top boat vs quads 3500bb deep vs a mega-nit
@TheTricksterFigure
@TheTricksterFigure 6 ай бұрын
@@marvellkanmomixa1997 I did it also on Pokerstars when there is 3 of a kind on the board for example KKK 94 and I have A9 the other guy is all in he has a KQ because when 3 kings are on the board on Pokerstars it's 90% chance the other guy has it. That happens very very often on Pokerstars, three of a kind on the board,. I played millions of hands live and it happened maybe 2 or 3 times in my entire life, on Pokerstars I played 500 k hands and this situation happened more than 2500 times and I lost every time I called about 1500 times before I learned I have to fold because the other guy had quads every fuking time. When I saw it happens all the time I started writing down in my notebook every time three of a kind is on the board and since I started taking notes it happened 2500 times and I lost 1500 and folded 1000 times and of those 1k hands that I folded 384 times the other guy showed quads and there is 98% posibility that remaining 616 times my opponent didn't show a hand he had it. But the main point is that first 1500 times since I started taking notes I lost with full house against quads. I wrote mail to pokerstars and asked them why this happens and they said it's completely normal and that happens to everyone.
@skylerkirley6446
@skylerkirley6446 6 ай бұрын
3500bb? What the hell were you playing 1c 2c??​@@marvellkanmomixa1997
@NxFxKW
@NxFxKW 6 ай бұрын
I’ve done it before… still regret it to this day even though he never showed and I never told him what I had I’m pretty sure I was just a nit.
@EricPetersen2922
@EricPetersen2922 Жыл бұрын
I really like the fact that Hustler and Lodge aren’t at war. They are cooperating and we as the audience are the winners. Smart biz on both sides. Nice to see!
@anthonysteen56
@anthonysteen56 Жыл бұрын
There’s almost no reason for them to be at war. This is media and cost on the consumer is only time, if it cost money to see the videos then you can bet your ass they wouldn’t be playing nice
@PissyKnish
@PissyKnish Жыл бұрын
HCL is run by scam artists.
@dewey-cox
@dewey-cox Жыл бұрын
And great for WPT! The river play is weird, was really hoping for a 8d or 7d river.
@steezyjenkins963
@steezyjenkins963 Жыл бұрын
The competition is all content based, and getting bigger players and bigger pots.
@ayaghsizian
@ayaghsizian Жыл бұрын
I feel like I have to chip in because of the title. There was a man who was close to the bubble of the main event WSOP, all he had to do was fold a few hands to guarantee his family $15,000. He was explaining to his wife (who knew nothing about poker) that he played a satellite and got a seat and he was the second biggest stack at his table near the bubble and all he had to do was fold for 30 minutes or so. Anyway the big stack was raising small every hand. Our hero ended up playing a hand JJ just to see a flop. As you can probably guess the flop was wonderful, J77. So the villain, the big stack, put him all in on the flop and our hero called. Villain had A3 off. Runner runner 7,7!!! The worst part is he had to explain to his wife why he didn’t have $15,000 after he promised her he would just fold every hand
@joshualongo6660
@joshualongo6660 10 ай бұрын
That's crazy but the chances of runner runner quads is 0.1%. 99.9% of the time when he does that he will not only guarantee 15k, but have a good shot at winning millions. I know this means nothing to a family who could really use the money, but when explained like that, hopefully the wife didn't fault him.
@Jeff32479
@Jeff32479 8 ай бұрын
​@joshualongo6660 To be fair, A-A run out adds about .3%. It's still an awful beat, but 250ish-1 is much different than 989-1.
@willong1000
@willong1000 8 ай бұрын
After watching the video, which I enjoyed, I did feel the title was a bit of clickbait myself. The busted jacks-full example that you provided, especially coming runner, runner was much more a brutal "bad beat" even without the player's financial need aspect considered. Years ago, I was playing a $10 - $20 limit game in a tribal casino in WA. For the second time in the same session, at the same table, against the same opponent, I made Quad 9s while holding a pocket pair. I bet again at the river but got raised, I re-raised and got raised again! I doubt that I cost myself one extra $20 chip when I studied the board for a moment and said "I hope you have it!" as I tossed in another $20 raise. (A ten-high, straight flush was possible with the board's run-out.) My opponent was savvy and just called my last raise, asking in a somewhat disgusted tone as he did so: "You got those 9s again?" Sadly, my opponent only had pocket 10s for a full house. If he would have had the straight flush the entire table would have garnered a nice windfall; and my "loser's share" of the Bad Beat Jackpot at that time would have been over $93,000.
@UnbiasedMagicReviews
@UnbiasedMagicReviews 8 ай бұрын
That sounds hilarious!
@shawnz5272
@shawnz5272 Жыл бұрын
Andy is a true class act and the definition of a quite professional. Handled that cooler like a true pro
@B3Band
@B3Band 6 ай бұрын
By walking away without counting out the chips he owed?
@AkiraSenju5647
@AkiraSenju5647 6 ай бұрын
@@B3Band bro it was half a million, that's what a dealer is for in moments like this lol..
@juggijones8322
@juggijones8322 Жыл бұрын
Very long winded comentary. lol.... the hand was way better live.... lol
@TheJuseman
@TheJuseman Жыл бұрын
Nice try one time my 2 pair got snapped by a back door flush
@LanceBeckman
@LanceBeckman Жыл бұрын
AQ beat my AK once. I've never forgot
@Iamhimberly
@Iamhimberly Жыл бұрын
That's better than your backdoor being snapped by 2 pair
@Iamhimberly
@Iamhimberly Жыл бұрын
​@@LanceBeckman shit, q7 beat my q9 on a qq2 flop , on the river to a 7 🥴
@glennrudolph
@glennrudolph Жыл бұрын
I watched my friend win AA vs AA in a tournament once. So stupid.
@mitchelsantos8898
@mitchelsantos8898 Жыл бұрын
Who cares about all these stories
@donrane
@donrane Жыл бұрын
"Don´t fold strong hands on the river" Also Doug: "Yea, that nut flush just fold it for the rest of your life and your good"
@codetaku
@codetaku Жыл бұрын
To a jam that's also a min-raise.
@hxhdfjifzirstc894
@hxhdfjifzirstc894 Жыл бұрын
@@codetaku So if Mariano jammed $1M then Andy should call? Pot odds?
@kinggrantking
@kinggrantking Жыл бұрын
​@@hxhdfjifzirstc894 If the effective stack was actually $1 million larger then yes, absolutely Mariano has more bluffs there.
@alistairwillock7266
@alistairwillock7266 Жыл бұрын
@@kinggrantking And he's snap-jamming with precisely _none_ of those said bluffs for $1M. Even the very first time I saw the river action, I thought that _both_ players acted far too quickly.
@Forever_Laura
@Forever_Laura Жыл бұрын
You must be highly regarded with that comment - context matters
@timstort8223
@timstort8223 Жыл бұрын
Andy handled himself like a true professional
@castricv
@castricv Жыл бұрын
Always does. So did Garrett.
@Mike-qo4kp
@Mike-qo4kp Жыл бұрын
Blows mind still how well he handles beats and coolers. Easily one of the best players I've seen. A true professional.
@stevest8675
@stevest8675 Жыл бұрын
@@Mike-qo4kp, agree. Classy guy.
@timplaystennis
@timplaystennis Жыл бұрын
What else would you expect him to do? Blame the dealer?
@user-vl1oz3qy6i
@user-vl1oz3qy6i Жыл бұрын
Who cares probably not even his money 😂
@kellyallen8528
@kellyallen8528 Жыл бұрын
I saw a guy fold TT on a flopped AAK at Hollywood casino in PA a few years ago when the BB Jackpot was over 700k. It was quad Tens qualifier. A guy when checked to bombed out with quad Aces and another guy got it in with Kings full on an A-A-K . It came running Tens. 99% of the people with quads would just check the flop but this guy was a complete newbie and just bombed it. Tens as played obviously has to fold but If quads checks then dude makes tens full and is never folding at that point. The dude got hauled out by police because he was so irate over it and basically told the guy he would kill him if he saw him outside of the casino. pure madness. That's the worst beat I ever saw.
@SBDCKJ
@SBDCKJ Жыл бұрын
Not the same without face cam ;)
@unclejoe7929
@unclejoe7929 Жыл бұрын
Mariano took this win with massive dignity tough spot for Andy.
@ronswallow
@ronswallow Жыл бұрын
I do want to say that I have seen the very possible worst hold em bad beat one time at a home game. It was AK of diamonds vs 89 of diamonds and they both got the straight flushes. For the game I was playing, it was a huge pot. So nuts!
@aaronpuetz4394
@aaronpuetz4394 Жыл бұрын
Worst cooler I had was A10 of clubs. Board is 7,8,9,J of clubs and a filler. So I blocked Q 10 and made a raise on the river after my opponent checked. Needless to say opponent had 56 of clubs and shoved. Honestly should have folded looking back on it. Opponent can’t have any reasonable bluffs there. Turning KQ of clubs into a bluff would be insane and there are no other blockers.
@williamdoyle2063
@williamdoyle2063 Жыл бұрын
@@aaronpuetz4394 Hello, little bit confused, if you have the A 10 of clubs, you win this hand surely? Am I missing something?
@algoner4421
@algoner4421 Жыл бұрын
​@williamdoyle2063 other player had straight flush w his 57...789. A 10 was just a flush, ace high.
@davidheiser2225
@davidheiser2225 9 ай бұрын
@@williamdoyle2063 You are correct, not missing anything. He would have had J-7 straight flush.
@brandonkellner2920
@brandonkellner2920 5 ай бұрын
@@williamdoyle2063 you're missing that he had an Ace of clubs with 10 offsuit, so he just had an ace high flush. he described it terribly
@obscurereference6298
@obscurereference6298 8 ай бұрын
The problem is, when you have Ax of diamonds your opponent can't have diamonds also because you have two blockers to diamonds and the way pros talk these days, blockers are 100% to negate all possibilities.
@conanthecribber
@conanthecribber Жыл бұрын
To answer your question about whether I liked it or not, then I would say "no" I didn't like this particular video. I do love your content, but in this video I found you were repeating stuff a lot and I felt like you didn't really put yourself in shoes of Andy that well. He knew he had the ace of diamonds, yet you constantly listed possible hands that Mariano could have, which might have included the ace of diamonds. It made no sense. Overall you seemed to be making two videos here. One was a commentary on the actual hand, one was a lecture on what to do where there is a one-suit flop and four of one suit after the river. I didn't think you managed to combine these two ideas that well. If that was your intention, then I think it would've been a more interesting video, if Mariano's cards were hidden. Just my 2c
@nickv1111
@nickv1111 Жыл бұрын
Didn't hate this format but prefer the other Polker hands video style.
@unclejoe7929
@unclejoe7929 Жыл бұрын
He had that “holy crap what a hand,” look on his face but chose to quietly celebrate and Andy did likewise. So nice to see, especially when you see the other side of poker in all stakes, where there’s show boating and trash talking. Not good for the sport. Congratulations Mariano.
@hornetguy9063
@hornetguy9063 Жыл бұрын
Mariano basically won the biggest pot of his life in a sick cooler. In a way, you feel bad for your opponent because you know that could easily happen to you. And also, a real professional knows to not touchdown dance on someone in a pot of this magnitude. Unless it’s like DNegs on Hellmuth because he’s basically got an open invite to troll (and neither will run out of money ever).
@noThankyou-g5c
@noThankyou-g5c Жыл бұрын
depends on what u mean by good for the sport. If you mean making the community put out content you personally find more respectable and enjoyable you’re right. if u mean attracting a bunch of dumbass fish to the game lower the skill required to make a living off of poker as a professional than you’re wrong. If you want to grow the game with recs that donate their stacks we want showboating and boasting. we want poker to look like a game revolving around drama and a clash of egos instead of a game about silently and logically considering your options. The latter reason is what scares so many people away. It’s the truth whether we like it or not
@aheroictaxidriver3180
@aheroictaxidriver3180 Жыл бұрын
It's a card game, not a sport.
@GabrielRodrigues-lz4ce
@GabrielRodrigues-lz4ce 11 ай бұрын
this could not happen easily bro@@hornetguy9063
@pokerboy72
@pokerboy72 5 ай бұрын
What are you doing here seeing this video​@@aheroictaxidriver3180
@philm.2352
@philm.2352 Жыл бұрын
The worst bad beat in history has yet to come. Play safe on HCL milly game Doug...😅
@oriondx72
@oriondx72 5 ай бұрын
No the worst bad beat in poker history is having Quad Aces and losing to a royal flush!
@andrew.beltre
@andrew.beltre Жыл бұрын
Everyone would go broke in this spot. Andy took it so well, props to him.
@erikk17
@erikk17 Жыл бұрын
Haha happend to me once. I didnt realize that random 85s straight flash was possible. I had biggest suprise pickatchu face ever till i realized why dealer is moving chips from me
@alistairwillock7266
@alistairwillock7266 Жыл бұрын
@@erikk17 In my early days playing live, I beat nut flushes with straight-flushes (two-card holdings for both players, both times) twice within a 6-month span... And just had no freaking clue how _insanely_ hot I was running. In both cases, I had the open-ended straight-flush draw and my ship came in. One of the victims turned his hand up and told me _"I have the nuts",_ only to hear me reply _"... not on that board you don't"._ I've since been on the other end of it a few times, and managed to _not_ go broke. When you have the nut flush on an un-paired board and get raised in 2023, you'd better pay serious attention to the board before you go buck-wild. If the straight flush is out there and you don't block it, you have to tread _really_ seriously at 400BB plus.
@iamhorcruxer
@iamhorcruxer Жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t, easy fold
@AAGEnzee
@AAGEnzee Жыл бұрын
Dude literally lost a decent sized house in most of America in one pot, and just calmly walked away to cool off.
@enricopallazzo3244
@enricopallazzo3244 Жыл бұрын
Pretty standard fold
@stevenwilson8718
@stevenwilson8718 Жыл бұрын
Why do i feel like hes asking me to subscribe? Im already subscribed! Is he that freaking good at bluffing?
@ForeverRealistOne
@ForeverRealistOne Жыл бұрын
Is Andy a winning poker player? He always seemed to lose overall on live at the bike, surprised his still playing tbh.
@MaxIQ77
@MaxIQ77 Жыл бұрын
It's more of a punt than a cooler... fix the title, Doug 👌
@Opinionated23-g3e
@Opinionated23-g3e 9 ай бұрын
Spoiler Alert: Doug goes to the Million Dollar Game and DONKS OFF HIS MONEY. I'd play Doug ANY DAY, just don't have the money lol. I'm too poor to even be a donk.
@s..4955
@s..4955 5 ай бұрын
You good bro?
@BSweetVideos
@BSweetVideos Жыл бұрын
Definitely a good lesson at the end in bet pacing.
@kiljoy667
@kiljoy667 Жыл бұрын
Back in 2018 twice did my ace high flush lose to a straight flush with no paired board. The first one was at Hustler and the second one was at Hawaiian Gardens.
@FriendsForFriends666
@FriendsForFriends666 Жыл бұрын
trust me, in microstakes this is never a fold. like never ever ever. they hold everything from a pair to nuts
@hxhdfjifzirstc894
@hxhdfjifzirstc894 Жыл бұрын
Can you imagine how tilted you would be, if you lost 2,500 BB on a 1c/2c hand, by folding an ace high flush to a pair?
@doughboysnerdly2745
@doughboysnerdly2745 8 ай бұрын
this should be an eight minute video
@nghiado9895
@nghiado9895 Жыл бұрын
Not the worst. The worst I remember was early in the WSOP Main Event some 15+ years ago. Royal flush vs quad aces. Ouch.
@pinballinc1752
@pinballinc1752 Жыл бұрын
17:20 "He could have the Ace-Nine of diamonds"...uh, no he can't. LOL.
@hxhdfjifzirstc894
@hxhdfjifzirstc894 Жыл бұрын
Yes, I feel like both players can't have the same card during the same hand.
@tomonetruth
@tomonetruth Жыл бұрын
I think he meant to say A8 - that would have made sense.
@CH-bp3bj
@CH-bp3bj Жыл бұрын
In nerd GTO land anything can happen!
@patrick.gilmore
@patrick.gilmore Жыл бұрын
Some of the best commentary I've ever heard - even compare to other videos from you, Doug. Thank you so much.
@Wildest_Wahoo
@Wildest_Wahoo Жыл бұрын
10:57 - I’m so glad you caught yourself saying this and then smoothly called yourself out on it. Gave me a good laugh. ❤
@arcc4
@arcc4 Жыл бұрын
Ah, the paradox of poker. Only an absolute insane sicko would min-raise all-in bluff that spot and so they probably got the nuts, but only an absolute insane sicko would fold the nut-flush and so they probably a fool if they don't call.
@hxhdfjifzirstc894
@hxhdfjifzirstc894 Жыл бұрын
Good point, and that's how Mariano leveled him while he was stumbling drunk.
@Whiteguyvideogames
@Whiteguyvideogames Жыл бұрын
Andy was gonna get killed in this hand regardless. It was pretty much unavoidable. The only question was if he could somehow find a fold when Mariano re-raised all-in on the river. You cannot assume that your opponent had the straight flush but I have no clue what else Mariano would be snap jamming with. In theory, maybe a bluff with a straight flush blocker but that seems quite unlikely in a cash game.
@unish25
@unish25 Жыл бұрын
I said the same thing. My question would be what would Mariano be bluffing on the river with 4 diamonds showing on the board. There's not that many hands, the fact he 4 bet is the only reason one could consider he be bluffing with.
@hxhdfjifzirstc894
@hxhdfjifzirstc894 Жыл бұрын
Good point, and I guess a straight flush is around 1/72,000 hands.
@alistairwillock7266
@alistairwillock7266 Жыл бұрын
@@hxhdfjifzirstc894 Even so, in Andy's spot you _have_ to stop, get the count, realize that you're getting a billion to one, and realize _that your opponent knows that too, and snap-jammed ANYWAY._ River raises with no fold equity are the most extreme spots in the game, and when a (really good) thinking player does that anyway... yeah.
@hxhdfjifzirstc894
@hxhdfjifzirstc894 Жыл бұрын
@@alistairwillock7266 This is all way over my head... what kinds of worse hand can M snap-jam, with four diamonds on the board?
@mattc3581
@mattc3581 Жыл бұрын
Realistically this hand is either the straight flush value betting or Mariano trying to get Andy to fold a weakish hand with an even worse hand. Nothing else really makes sense. Given the betting on the turn I find it hard to believe neither of them had a high diamond, so given that and the snap-jam it looks kinda like the first option. Hindsight is 20-20 and all that though.
@ryanr2019
@ryanr2019 Жыл бұрын
Doug! Please continue this video format. Was excellent to watch and kept me more engaged than other videos.
@epiphany2927
@epiphany2927 Жыл бұрын
Seconded, this video made me a subscriber. More like this please!
@quokka_11
@quokka_11 6 ай бұрын
Yeah if you turned off the sound, covered the card graphics and just watched their reactions, it looked like Andy won and Mariano lost his kid's college fund.
@boydparks8716
@boydparks8716 Жыл бұрын
From a professional point of view, I am sure folding odds are greater, but for the typical bottom feeders - as I am, we snap shove, thinking we always have the nutts. In Andy's case, he simply forgot he knew better and gets reminded that he does make mistakes 😂
@enriqueolan5030
@enriqueolan5030 Жыл бұрын
I think this is just a bad spot for Andy. Based on the preflop action, it’s really hard to put Mariano on K/10 diamonds. Holding the Ace of diamonds, and the action pre and on the flop, it’s safe to put him on Ks with the K of diamonds or AK, with the K of diamonds. With that being said, I don’t hate Andy’s river bet based on all that.
@chrischevalier1887
@chrischevalier1887 Жыл бұрын
Agree 100 % the four bet pre with the k10 makes this hand impossible to get away from without the board pairing.
@sarahdeshay1394
@sarahdeshay1394 Жыл бұрын
All the pre flop logic should be disregarded once Mariano snap raises all in on a four flush board. I agree with Doug that if you fold Andy’s hand every time to that small of a river raise in that spot “you will never be wrong”.
@AnthonySexy-b3v
@AnthonySexy-b3v 5 ай бұрын
Let the hand finish then commentate
@brettwagner9587
@brettwagner9587 Жыл бұрын
Typically speaking, Doug says “typically speaking” often in his videos. In this video I counted 12 times. Might want to balance that out
@hxhdfjifzirstc894
@hxhdfjifzirstc894 Жыл бұрын
Yes, he should put some 'usuallys' and 'oftens' in his adverb range, as well as some 'rarelys' and 'nevers' to keep us guessing.
@jasonfu6440
@jasonfu6440 Жыл бұрын
Very insightful analysis Doug, thank you.
@stephanwright0697
@stephanwright0697 Жыл бұрын
It's funny how Doug said you have to be some sicko to bluff in Mariano shoes without the goods but Bill K did that repping quads against kims full house and got the fold. It's the only time I have ever seen that sort of bluff but also take in account Bills worth.
@matkodoris9099
@matkodoris9099 8 ай бұрын
Mariano is such a gentleman. He has a very subdued demeanor after winning the hand. He knows this hand is a once in a lifetime cooler, and doesn't want to add insult to injury. Bravo Mariano! You are a good guy.
@joshmullins4849
@joshmullins4849 Жыл бұрын
Agree with the last point most of all. When you overbet river on an unpaired 4 flush board and you have the flushing A, if your opponent snap jams, they are either a complete and total fish or they have a straight flush. There is no third option. If there is no straight flush possible on the board, either you misread the board or your opponent did.
@alistairwillock7266
@alistairwillock7266 Жыл бұрын
And this is why Doug hates the overbet sizing on the river. If you have the Ad there, then you _have_ to size down to get called by worse, or to have any chance of someone holding worse thinking that they can bluff you out of the hand. On that specific board, holding neither Kd _or_ Td, for that many BB, you have to be pretty intentional about your sizing... and about responding to a jam over any bet.
@hornetguy9063
@hornetguy9063 Жыл бұрын
@@alistairwillock7266 yeah. Literally the only way you can bet this big is if you’re also turning hands like 8d7d into a bluff. Which many players wouldn’t bother to do this deep, because they often just have the best hand and aren’t interested in targeting the Td or Kd for folds. Maybe if your large bet was all of it, you can do that, but they still have a lot of stack left. I think betting something like $40k would’ve been better here. Andy will have the Ad more often IMO, so checking to check raise seems foolish.
@hxhdfjifzirstc894
@hxhdfjifzirstc894 Жыл бұрын
This is my favorite take so far. However, IIRC Mariano was staggering drunk at this point of the game, so maybe Andy thought he hooked a big one?
@enijize1234
@enijize1234 3 ай бұрын
Some high tier game flow. Andy may think Mariano will attack an unbalanced overbet range- assuming Mariano is thinking Andy's overbets range is unbalanced to bluffs
@herts9999
@herts9999 Жыл бұрын
Realistically, would Doug ever have the inclination to fold this hand at any point? I can see maybe the river jam, but SPR would be a call 99.99% of the time.
@marlofeliciano4800
@marlofeliciano4800 Жыл бұрын
There was a time when he folded 2nd nut straight 10,7vs hellmuth 10,Q nut straight in an 89J flop. He can do sick plays too.
@davewatson3398
@davewatson3398 Жыл бұрын
I agree. No way you can get away from this hand. You wont play much poker if you see straight flushes or 4 of a kind when the action gets heavy. The odds will win over time. Won’t make a beat like this any more fun, but it’s probabilities (and their variances) that make poker go round.
@DocTight
@DocTight Жыл бұрын
Spontaneously, I like the old format better, but maybe that's just because I'm so used to it.
@hardflip8
@hardflip8 Жыл бұрын
Andy also kinda priced himself in with that river bet sizing. Gotta consider betting less for that reason too.
@Robert-ky8gl
@Robert-ky8gl Жыл бұрын
Doug you forgot to make an intro
@youngjohn5076
@youngjohn5076 6 ай бұрын
I don’t think anyone can fold are high flush. I rather lose it all to straight flush then get bluff.
@jasonhounsell3297
@jasonhounsell3297 7 ай бұрын
“If Mariano had a 10 diamonds then bluffing that wouldn’t be bad every now and again” -- did you see how fast Andy snapped that off? Not sure you ever want to bluff that spot, find me a player folding what they are representing 😆
@rsandoval9203
@rsandoval9203 Жыл бұрын
With as much as Andy bet on the river its really impossible to fold. He just got fixated on the nut flush and didn't think about the hand. Great play though for both.
@nishantthaccker1173
@nishantthaccker1173 Жыл бұрын
So true. Looks like Andy didn't even consider the possibility of a straight flush.. All the time he had Mariano on Kd
@daviddouglas5692
@daviddouglas5692 Жыл бұрын
honestly....when mariano jams over the top of andys bet--------what else could he have??? Andy is holding A diamond---mariano must must have the SF-------how could he bluff here?
@randomjunk1977
@randomjunk1977 2 ай бұрын
I don't doubt the logic of the "he's representing a straight flush and no one would bluff that" analysis, but if the ONLY thing that can beat you is a straight flush where your opponent has to be playing both cards, I don't know how you can fold. It would be one thing if the 10 was also on the board and he could have the SF with just the K. That's functionally the same spot as holding the K with four disconnected diamonds and your opponent might have the A. If my opponent has to have (in this case) exactly 2 specific cards out of only 3 possibilities in the entire deck (K10 or 10,9 of exactly diamonds) I think you just have to pay them off. I mean really how often is thay going to happen? Once a decade if I play every day? I think my bankroll can handle that.
@joshboncoeur6985
@joshboncoeur6985 6 ай бұрын
Doug, sorry but while insightful, you are too verbose... I had to keep skipping ahead... blah blah blah....
@VietWellness
@VietWellness 4 ай бұрын
Andy played this hand like a complete amateur and proves that he's by no mean a "great" poker player. In no universe his image would bluff on a board like that and therefor an over-bet is extremely stupid because he's literally saying "Hey, I have an Ace". So his opponent would have a very easy decision. - Any king/Ten or bluff catching hand would fold to that bet - A straigh-flush will definitely shove no matter what because they know Andy has Ace high flush. I don't think he's a losing player but I think Andy is a mediocre player as best. His analysis system is terrible and most of the time he's in autopilot mode. His ability to regulate his emotion is as good as a teenager, just one bad beat and he throws all of his experience and knowledge out the window.
@MarkWodjykl
@MarkWodjykl Жыл бұрын
By shoving quickly, Mariano was repping a straight flush. If he merely had a king-high flush, his quick shoving could have pushed an Ace-high flush into folding. So that was brilliant. Also, Andy could have been repping a Queen-high flush, so his $120K river bet would seem like an overbet to induce a king of diamonds to call. Also a smart move. I disagree with Doug that the $120K bet was too large. I also disagree with Doug that Andy should have sniffed out the straight flush and folded. For an extra $130K in a $500K pot, and with the nut flush, he had little choice but to call, knowing that Mariano could easily jam with the king of diamonds only.
@paulpena5040
@paulpena5040 Жыл бұрын
@17:44 "Can we put all the nerdy shit aside... when someone under min raise jams the river on you repping the straight flush, they've got it.". Doug, let's REALLY put the nerdy shit aside you're never folding the nut flush to a small jam....EVER.
@anthonyhodges7184
@anthonyhodges7184 6 ай бұрын
At the casino had K9 suited vs a 54 suited. Flop came A23 for the absolute nuts. All the money went in at flop, and even lost to a third player who committed all his chips on just A8 who jagged runner, runner for a full house. Haven't been back the casino ever since :D
@UnicowBoySlots
@UnicowBoySlots Жыл бұрын
Nah still has to be Roble losing with Quad 9’s to Quad Qs or that WSOP hand where it was Quad Aces Vs the Royal Flush
@timq6224
@timq6224 6 ай бұрын
no, didn't like it, because half the hands in your "analysis" one player or the other completely blocked. "Mariano could have Ax with Ad" NO he can't because Andy has the Ace.
@oldegolfer5146
@oldegolfer5146 6 ай бұрын
Come on Doug: Disagree on this one. Range, position, image BLA BLA BLA. No pairs for full house. The nut flush is not folding. You expect to stack him. Facing a straight flush you are just dead. The river card means nothing. Just bad luck. DaveWatson and donrane below nailed it.
@alexbehrend1886
@alexbehrend1886 6 ай бұрын
it's fun to watch, and i don't think very instructive. I can't imagine a bigger cooler when one player flops ace high flush and the other flops straight flush. Stacks were all going in the middle no matter how each played the flop, turn, and river. Your pre-flop insights were very informative, and I watched the whole thing because I wanted to see how both stacks would eventually get in the middle.
@ollydavies764
@ollydavies764 5 ай бұрын
This video should have been a 5-6 minute video. So much repeated waffling on about the same thing just using different words to describe the situation...
@STOPWOSBFraud
@STOPWOSBFraud 5 ай бұрын
I was on both side of this. In cash game I had the SF and someone raised into me with the A high flush and he said NUT FLUSH and grabbed for the money.... Hang on... But I as on the flip side of this a year later in a small tournament :(
@danielali6571
@danielali6571 5 ай бұрын
Come on, he should take a moment to consider the call on the river...really. no one is folding there , he just put 120k in, is already about 400k in the pot and is 137 to call, absolutely no way is anyone folding there , I would have like to have seen this hand if the call was about 1 million then it would be interesting
@jonathanbosma9932
@jonathanbosma9932 8 ай бұрын
Eventhough it is a huge cooler, no pro should ever lose 1500 big blinds in this situation, especially with the check through on the flop and the 4th diamond on the river. Andy's betting looked like he never thought about Marciano's range of holdings. And I'm not especially trying to say he should consider straight flush. The bets were also bad against the sets and KK with king of diamonds he could have.
@buckleup8962
@buckleup8962 Жыл бұрын
How is this the worlds word bad beat lol come on.
@gerarddowd318
@gerarddowd318 6 ай бұрын
I had quad 7s beaten by a straight flush in a UK Casino tournament the guy had 3/4 suited I had A/7. The board ended up 775 6 7H. Devasted!
@promethusblade74
@promethusblade74 Жыл бұрын
Worst bad beat in history.....-610,000....all not true....get it together and stop the click bait. So sad!
@davidmoe4384
@davidmoe4384 3 ай бұрын
You keep saying Andy could have AK or AQ of diamonds, but he's holding the K and the Q is on the table - otherwise good to see the thinking throughout.
@anhtruong6908
@anhtruong6908 6 ай бұрын
I folded an A high flush once. But it was a 4/8 limit hold'em game and the Ace to 5 flush possibility was out there. Sure enough, they had the straight flush.
@RobsWorld
@RobsWorld Жыл бұрын
Dang that’s crazy. Horrible time to flop a nut A high flush. I also once flopped a straight flush with J7 of hearts. Flop was 8 9 10 of hearts and I had a guy betting into me all the way. Won the high hand for the hour too.
@mattstone9364
@mattstone9364 Жыл бұрын
Cool story bro, no one cares.
@mykelengieza7057
@mykelengieza7057 6 ай бұрын
Only polk can take a 2 minute point blank hand and talk for 15+ minutes describing the totally obvious...blocking this channel
@wesv3535
@wesv3535 3 ай бұрын
Any Mariano clip can be summed up very quickly. "Mariano is a luck box, and wins again." - The End
@colinmc2945
@colinmc2945 Жыл бұрын
Listen, practically speaking, its an obviously stupid call. He can never not have a straight flush there. But, the same way nobody can ever be bluffing there, can anybody really fold a 600k pot on a min raise of 100k with the second nuts? Can any player honestly sit here and say they would do that. I feel like 99% of people sigh call off there 100% of the time.
@YP3CA
@YP3CA 8 ай бұрын
Nice to read here all the Hollywood Park $1 $2 No Limit players giving their professional opinions....
@josephmooney7196
@josephmooney7196 3 ай бұрын
Indeed a super sick cooler however Andy should not be playing that hand out of position’ Perhaps he twas tilting.
@d1bigshifter737
@d1bigshifter737 6 ай бұрын
I cant see it played any other way . I watched this to learn what not to do , but finding a way to fold that hand dosent come to light . Andy you are a true pro and look forward to you bouncing back.... So go get some Tony G chips!!!!
@StantheJokemanShow-sb7sx
@StantheJokemanShow-sb7sx 5 ай бұрын
MY GOD too much damned philosophy and dialogue! I like it, because I agree, but wow!
@delox77
@delox77 Жыл бұрын
I did not like this video. I think if Doug were in the same position as Andy it would be a mirror play. I would this, I would that!?!?! Nut flush, I believe I have best w/o board pairing, period. The idea of the straight flush eludes most poker players because of the ridiculous odds to have a one.
@Joe-hf3cn
@Joe-hf3cn 8 ай бұрын
Only because of the huge sum of money at stake. It happened in my 2straight limit game in which I had the sf & my opponent had Ace high flush.. yet my opponent only called my raise. It wasn’t a 4 liner either. I says to the guy I can’t believe you only called my $2 raise. He told me he had a feeling I had the sf. I’m still smh
@videoluvr4204
@videoluvr4204 8 ай бұрын
sheesh Doug, this is a huge OVER-analysis but i understand why you do it to extend video times...nobody will remember all this granular advice that only applies to this situational hand
@2332Stephen
@2332Stephen Жыл бұрын
85 per cent of your viewers play 1/ 3 and don't have this bankroll. For all of you 1/ 3 players , go ahead and 4 bet ace 4 out of position and see what happens to that garbage 100 percent of the time 😂😂😂
@NoName-ge6wc
@NoName-ge6wc 6 ай бұрын
Only a cooler because he should have folded A Rag pre flop to a 9k re-raise. Andy excused himself to vomit in the bathroom.
@BirdsTheWurd
@BirdsTheWurd Жыл бұрын
Flopping a K high straight flush... It's Mariono's world and we're just living in it.
@Cardb33
@Cardb33 Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry Doug I know you're the pro here but there's no folding that hand. There are exactly two hands that beat Andy and he'd have had to flop both of them. Those being Kd-10d and 10d-8d. This is just the ultimate cooler and there's no other way about it.
@brettlobbato3700
@brettlobbato3700 Жыл бұрын
By far NOT THE SICKEST, NOT EVEN CLOSE! CONNOR DRINAN AA vs AA loss in Million dollar buy in, FAR WORSE
@Kk-vo3yn
@Kk-vo3yn Жыл бұрын
NO ONE is ever folding that hand One of those hands you can’t do anything about it. Unless you told pre flop
@levoriocolin7802
@levoriocolin7802 5 ай бұрын
What would have been epic if Andy open folded face up on the flop and said there is no way im good here. Can you imagine Marianos reaction. Would have made J4 seem tame.
@erikearles5654
@erikearles5654 8 ай бұрын
Jesus with the commentary. Do people subscribe to listen to you talk this much?! I get commentary to keep the video going but you’re acting like the only reason we are watching is to listen to you over dissect this.
@donaldf.switlick3690
@donaldf.switlick3690 15 күн бұрын
Cash or Tournament game??? Please clarify IMO it matters.
@augustburnsorange1748
@augustburnsorange1748 Жыл бұрын
you call this a bad beat? i just had probably the worst bad beat in poker history during a tournament. some donk before me makes a huge preflop raise with k6 off out of position. I have pocket kings and go all-in (this was one of the first few hands of the match). this idiot calls. flop comes AQ and some odd card rainbow. the turn and river is literally 6 and then another 6. running trip sixes was the only way he would've won that pot and he did it.
@szlatnik
@szlatnik Жыл бұрын
Technically, I saw a hand somewhere on KZbin where a guy made quads (I think on the Turn? Don't quote me on that), but the same card gave another player a Royal. That was a worse cooler. 🤣
@iunstoppable1
@iunstoppable1 6 ай бұрын
Its hard to call the all in on the river because what hand was Mariano 3 betting preflop with a King high flush other than the nuts? Not saying its an easy fold because only one exact hand beats you...but theres no way hes ever bluffing.
@JoeCafferata
@JoeCafferata Жыл бұрын
Horrible beat. I still think Arieh's bad beat on Yockey in in deuce-seven triple draw was worse. I know, apples and oranges, but still.
@paulpena5040
@paulpena5040 Жыл бұрын
I'm gonna write a book "How to fold nut flushes on unpaired boards". Gonna be a bestseller. SIgn up for advanced copies.
@calebmarshall5654
@calebmarshall5654 Жыл бұрын
If andy would have taken a couple minutes to think it out, he could have easily folded in this situation. Four diamonds on the board, with the possibly of a straight flush out there. Andy bets on the river with an Ace high flush, once he got re-raised. He should have know most of the time his opponent will have the straight flush in this position. Bad snap call.
@aeris4393
@aeris4393 Жыл бұрын
Imo Andy played the hand like his playtime. Long balling, I don't see a bad play here tbh, considering how common these guys shove rivers light.
@jklmnop8607
@jklmnop8607 Жыл бұрын
Playing a hand live is a wee bit harder than analyzing it after the fact. Who in this world plays enough hands to recognize when he's on the short end of this one? Doug, would you have had A4dd live and avoided losing your stack?
@BadColorEntertainmen
@BadColorEntertainmen 10 ай бұрын
The commentator is wrong, the river card was “good” for both, it made Andy feel safe since the only hand that can beat him is a straight flush, and for Mariano it means he has the absolute nuts but other players could make a very good flush which means they would follow him in a all in hand.
@hzzz12
@hzzz12 Жыл бұрын
A great commentary! But is this really the WORST bad beat in history? In my opinion, it is the famous AAAA vs RF
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