The WORST Missed Calls In NHL History

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Rob Talks Hockey

Rob Talks Hockey

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@RobTalksHockey
@RobTalksHockey 2 жыл бұрын
What is the WORST missed/bad call you've ever seen?
@Logan21_21
@Logan21_21 2 жыл бұрын
The call where that S****D ref DIDINT call a penalty on Wayne against the leafs
@toddpick8007
@toddpick8007 2 жыл бұрын
No call Gretzky high stick on Gilmour game 6 Conference Finals LA Kings vs Leaf's 1993 worst fucking no call ever.
@alexthebasilisk
@alexthebasilisk 2 жыл бұрын
The ignored cross check by Mayfield on Kucherov last year. Dude literally broke a star player's ribs and didn't even get 2 minutes
@jayden2669
@jayden2669 2 жыл бұрын
Nashville 2017 colton Sissons goal waived off
@RandomPlaceHolderName
@RandomPlaceHolderName 2 жыл бұрын
Out of the entire VGK-MTL ref'ing debacle, the high stick that bloodied Perry in OT was egregious. March took a baseball swing at the puck and sent Perry down to the ice in plain view of the refs.
@littletommy69
@littletommy69 2 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind, that back in the days, in 1993 as well, high-sticking with blood was automatic 5-minute major and game misconduct.. That's why it was a big deal with Gretzky's no-call.
@AbortedFeti
@AbortedFeti 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah...I'm generally not one for conspiracy theories, but I don't think it's absurd to believe that Gretzky was not called for that obvious high stick cuz it would mean him being ejected and LA losing that game which would have lead to a Toronto and Montreal series as the final. A delight for existing hockey fans to be sure, but the league very much wanted LA with Gretzky to win that 93 cup to solidify the sunbelt as a hockey market and continue growing the game stateside. I'm sure they were livid when Montreal ended up taking it in the end lol.
@henrymorrey4150
@henrymorrey4150 2 жыл бұрын
@@AbortedFeti that’s why Gretzky number will never be topped, it was a different game where the enforcers would never touch the all stars like him, it’s a different game now
@neojay80
@neojay80 2 жыл бұрын
@@AbortedFeti I can see the anti-MTL sentiment in the league today, as a lot of people here believe the league has it out for the Habs because of that. A MTL-TOR cup finals would have been epic, I'll have to live with the 2020-2021 1st round upset.
@coreyhill681
@coreyhill681 2 жыл бұрын
That Haunted Maple Leafs for a long time now, and I don't blame them
@moappleseider1699
@moappleseider1699 2 жыл бұрын
LOL The day I stopped rooting for the Leafs and became a fulltime Red Wings fan. I was 9 years old with a mother from Detroit and a father from Toronto. So I had family on one side sending me Leafs and Blue Jays gear, and the other side was sending me Wings and Tigers gear. I always rooted for both when they weren't playing each other but chose the Leafs when the two faced off. After that no-call and the eventual loss in game 7 I looked at my dad and said "I'm done. I'm a Wings fan" my dad looked at me with a smile and said "You'll probably live a happier life that way buddy". Little did I know just a few years later the Wings would turn into the powerhouse they were for over 2 decades. Now hoping Yzerman will lead Detroit back to greatness but I still root for the Leafs when they aren't playing Detroit. I just don't put as much heart in it. Got to get a new Felix "The Cat" Potvin sweater though. Those things are sick. Poor Leafs.
@sniperlauncher388
@sniperlauncher388 2 жыл бұрын
Remember when Crosby took off Marc methots finger and didn’t get a penalty
@VanBakelll
@VanBakelll 2 жыл бұрын
That’s because he’s Crosby
@willp.6093
@willp.6093 2 жыл бұрын
It caused a rule change at least
@rileykazama3145
@rileykazama3145 2 жыл бұрын
How did he do that
@barx
@barx 2 жыл бұрын
@@rileykazama3145 Slashed him right on the glove, hence why slashes to the hands are automatically called
@rileykazama3145
@rileykazama3145 2 жыл бұрын
@@barx yikes
@jerryhammer2927
@jerryhammer2927 2 жыл бұрын
Preds disallowed goal game 6, cup final 2017 hands down. That early whistle sent us from contenders to a first round sweep. That was our chance. I still think Pens would've won a possible game 7 in Pittsburgh, but we'll never know what could've been.
@TheAlphapuck5280
@TheAlphapuck5280 2 жыл бұрын
Thats nothing compared to the missed goal call on Calgary back in 2004
@Bambrough
@Bambrough 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheAlphapuck5280 it was what he’s seen not what do u thinks the worst all time
@chiefdave51
@chiefdave51 2 жыл бұрын
I hope Nashville never experiences the joy of winning a cup.
@deusvult6920
@deusvult6920 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheAlphapuck5280 that wasn't a missed call sorry
@TheAlphapuck5280
@TheAlphapuck5280 2 жыл бұрын
@@deusvult6920 Really? kzbin.info/www/bejne/n4C1pqCCg5x-ZrM
@dustin5181
@dustin5181 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like from the angle; Dahlin pushed with closed fists for all 3 shoves. Hands that were close together, Not using his stick to make it a cross check. With all 3 shoves. Mathews cross checked for both. The first initial retaliation before getting knocked down, and then again to the face after. Not using his hands to make contact and make them both cross checks with his stick. Same thing with the Ovi example. While yes, a soft call (maybe embellishment), still crosschecking. Hands wide apart not using to push the player, but using the stick as the point of contact.
@miketaylorID1
@miketaylorID1 2 жыл бұрын
Lacrosse rules
@AbortedFeti
@AbortedFeti 2 жыл бұрын
This is the correct take. What Dahlin was doing was clearing Matthews from the net by pushing using his stick, but that's not cross checking. Happens literally 100s of times a game. Matthews on the other hand was a two handed full bore cross check to the head. That has to be a suspension every single time. No place in the game for that.
@petem7942
@petem7942 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad someone sees this correctly. Thank you for the sane post. :)
@rdd29
@rdd29 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, Dahlin was pushing Matthews, not cross-checking. Matthews, basically, went for the intent to injure Dahlin, didn't look like he held back with those cross-checks, especially the one which got Dahlin on the side of the neck. Potentially, a life/career ending injury right there, Dahlin took it like a champ.
@buttkick22
@buttkick22 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@jerejokinen3199
@jerejokinen3199 2 жыл бұрын
Game 5 in the 2019 finals, missed call on Noel Acciari getting slew footed which led to the game winning goal for the Blues giving them a 3-2 lead in the series.
@jdt2313
@jdt2313 2 жыл бұрын
Not to mention the uncalled interference on Zuccarello that kept the Blues from being eliminated by Dallas
@OhZech
@OhZech 2 жыл бұрын
Blues 2019 Stanley Cup was the biggest fluke in recent hockey history
@kylebond1086
@kylebond1086 2 жыл бұрын
Wasn’t going to write this comment, glad to see others think that was bullshit and one of the biggest missed calls ever.
@kevindunn2663
@kevindunn2663 2 жыл бұрын
@@OhZech lol cry about it. That team had depth scoring, experience, a great coach, a good blue line, leadership and a hot goalie. But keep telling yourself it was a fluke.
@kevindunn2663
@kevindunn2663 2 жыл бұрын
Game 1 of the 2019 finals, Krug charges Robert Thomas taking him out for the rest of The series.
@estellegrignon
@estellegrignon 2 жыл бұрын
If you ever make a part 2, you need to talk about last year's game between the Jackets and Hurricanes. Carolina scores, but the Jackets challenge because of an offside. The refs somehow miss the offside and give Columbus a two minute penalty for delay of game as the period comes to an end. BUT! The refs actually realize during the intermission that yes, there was an offside, so coming back for the next period, they cancel what was left of Carolina's power play. But Carolina keeps the goal that should have been disallowed. I've honestly never seen anything like it before or since in my life
@lokei1326
@lokei1326 2 жыл бұрын
That was such a dang-it.
@HockeyPwnsBaseball
@HockeyPwnsBaseball 2 жыл бұрын
That was one of the most bush-league things I've ever seen. And my team BENEFITED from it lol. I can't imagine how CBJ fans felt
@theWanderersnotebook
@theWanderersnotebook 9 ай бұрын
@@lokei1326A fellow person of culture I see!
@TylerQ4
@TylerQ4 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair with the cross checking call, it’s cross checking when your hands are apart from each hand while holding on to the stick.. and some people don’t realize that, but if you put your hands together with the stick and shove, it’s actually not a penalty.. (I’m a hockey player and reffed a little bit)
@MrBigtime2
@MrBigtime2 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly 👍
@dustinjohn7869
@dustinjohn7869 2 жыл бұрын
Cool I learned something
@cptn-billtremblay3162
@cptn-billtremblay3162 2 жыл бұрын
I was just a kid but that Montreal-Carolina series still makes me angry just to think about it! Carolina was so dirty! 😡
@axe2grind244
@axe2grind244 2 жыл бұрын
Carolina had zero business beating Buffalo and it took them 7 games to beat a bad Oilers team that also had zero business being there. That Canes team is and always will be a joke.
@bartholomewesperanza3442
@bartholomewesperanza3442 2 жыл бұрын
@@axe2grind244 hahahah what?? That team was stacked up front. Rode a hot rookie goaltender who ended up being one of the better goalies of his era. That “joke” of a team will forever be engraved on the Stanley cup, and you can suck on it
@bartholomewesperanza3442
@bartholomewesperanza3442 2 жыл бұрын
Carolina was the better team by far. Montreal got lucky Carolinas starting goalie Martin Gerber had the flu the first 2 games and played awful. That was the only reason they were up 2-0. Carolina was “so dirty”? The player who high sticked koivu was Justin Williams. Not a guy known for being a goon or giving out cheap shots. It was obviously an accident. Get over it frenchie boy
@bruceulrich1231
@bruceulrich1231 2 жыл бұрын
@@axe2grind244 they wouldn't have won if it weren't for the sabres being forced to play their 7th, 8th, 9th and 10th defensemen. Playing in the conference finals with ahl'ers tells you just how good and deep that team was
@SabresGuy87
@SabresGuy87 2 жыл бұрын
Carolina has Buffalo's Cup #Facts
@FTCoconutman
@FTCoconutman 2 жыл бұрын
2009? cup finals wings v pens. Pittsburgh had 7 guys on the ice for about 1:30 with the bench screaming at the refs and they refused to look around and blow the whistle, then a d man finally got off the ice and they tied the game a few seconds later and won in ot
@axe2grind244
@axe2grind244 2 жыл бұрын
Its Pittsburgh, what doesnt go their way? The NHL rigged a draft for them, obviously theyre allowed to have 7 men on the ice.
@rheff7618
@rheff7618 2 жыл бұрын
2019 playoffs. Blues vs Sharks, the infamous hand pass game as everyone in St. Louis calls it. Game 3 in the series, Timo Meier. Gotta look it up.
@woodstocknun
@woodstocknun 2 жыл бұрын
the dahlin matthews incident was a scrum from both players, and then matthews crosschecked dahlin in the neck. i dont see the controversy.
@austinneveau9387
@austinneveau9387 2 жыл бұрын
Except dahlin shouldve went to the penalty box before Matthew's had the chance to retaliate
@woodstocknun
@woodstocknun 2 жыл бұрын
@@austinneveau9387 do that and we would have a discussion how soft NHL was.. that scrum went on that entire shift.
@DutchJunior310
@DutchJunior310 2 жыл бұрын
@@austinneveau9387 for what? A net front battle? Bc ghat never happens in a hockey game
@buttkick22
@buttkick22 2 жыл бұрын
He’s trying to equate pushing a guy with your gloves and using your stick to push and clear the front of the net with full blown cross checking. There is a big difference. His example there is completely nonsensical
@drossi101
@drossi101 2 жыл бұрын
@@austinneveau9387 For what? Lmao he wasn’t cross checking, he was pushing him. It’s hockey. This happens to anyone trying to get screen the goalie.
@zskimanjr
@zskimanjr 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry to say Dahlins "crosscheck" was him pushing with his gloves not his stick. Interference maybe but not a crosscheck
@tomhull1276
@tomhull1276 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. And, I don't think an interference penalty would be called when a defending player is trying to remove an opponent from the goal crease. Dahlin is making a legal "hockey play" and Matthews is just trying to stand his ground.
@kensmith2829
@kensmith2829 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, not a crosscheck
@zachost
@zachost 2 жыл бұрын
Matthews is so scummy, he retaliated with a cross check to the head trying to hurt Dahlin because he was getting manhandled.
@IcyMantaray
@IcyMantaray 2 жыл бұрын
@@tomhull1276 clearing the net? by crosschecking him into the crossbar from the numbers? the first one was hands the second one he separated them to hide a crosscheck, if the play wasn't called dead on the attempt to hit matthews into the crossbar then it should've been let to continue
@Lt_Coldstream72
@Lt_Coldstream72 2 жыл бұрын
@@IcyMantaray You clearly don't want to see the difference between a crosscheck or a push with both hands close to each other... I guess you are a Matthews-fanboi with those eyes. 🤓
@derekpushkar4013
@derekpushkar4013 2 жыл бұрын
I instantly thought of flames/lightning 04 disallowed goal, GFG 🔥
@silentnyrf3161
@silentnyrf3161 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@Tre16
@Tre16 2 жыл бұрын
Game 6, they would have won the cup!
@JB_II
@JB_II 2 жыл бұрын
Still to me the worst call was in a Penguins vs Rangers game when Sidney Crosby was called for a penalty, was in the box, the ref announced the penalty the puck was dropped and a few seconds later the ref blew the whistle and escorted Crosby out of the box saying there was no penalty on the play. Huh? I’m a former ref and I still don’t understand that decision.
@pistolpete7422
@pistolpete7422 2 жыл бұрын
“But this isn’t a penalty?” 2 handed push with gloves on lol.
@marciimeris503
@marciimeris503 2 жыл бұрын
It's the Auston Matthew's rose tinted goggles.
@powwowken2760
@powwowken2760 2 жыл бұрын
Well considering Matthews was no where close to the puck, yes it is a penalty, it's called "interference".
@716link
@716link 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I had to rewind a couple times to try to see where "Dahlin cross-checked Matthews several times". Still can't find that part 🤷🏻‍♂️
@antonblascak581
@antonblascak581 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Ron :) thanks for the video... maybe an idea for a new one? Tampa commentator said a couple of nights ago that McDonagh has never missed playoffs in his carreer (yet), I thought it could be interesting to take a look at longest playoff streaks in modern era? Are there many who have never missed playoffs in their entire carreers? Thanks :) have a good one.
@Mcdavidsburner
@Mcdavidsburner 2 жыл бұрын
The reffing has been the worse that I can remember this year. It’s so bad that I don’t even get mad anymore I just laugh 😂
@chrisdobbs9155
@chrisdobbs9155 Жыл бұрын
That first one was just a part of the NHL fixing games. The only argument for "meant to blow the whistle" is if he meant to blow it before the shot was taken. The ref only lost view of the puck after it was in the net.
@VitalGlory
@VitalGlory 2 жыл бұрын
As a referee the dispute rule makes sense. From when you see that a puck is dead to when you actually blow the whistle they is a slight delay. For example, goalie covers puck, referee may have to raise the whistle to mouth to blow it dead, however the play was dead before the ref blew the whistle.
@danielgertler5976
@danielgertler5976 2 жыл бұрын
That sounds great, and yet players were still playing. A. And B. the puck was clearly not dead in that situation so the intent to blow shouldn't really matter because the puck just happened to squeak through but the ref "intended" to call it dead?
@charlesmclearn4642
@charlesmclearn4642 2 жыл бұрын
I agree that the rule itself was fine, but in the example used in the video it was very improperly applied
@VitalGlory
@VitalGlory 2 жыл бұрын
@@charlesmclearn4642 yeah the example used was complete trash. terrible call lmao.
@brianjohnson7484
@brianjohnson7484 Жыл бұрын
I’m also a referee. I find it comical hearing the complaints about “intent to blow the whistle” and when the “whistle was actually blown” or “the puck clearly wasn’t covered” while watching it from the overhead or goal camera angle….did y’all ever consider that the official is not in the middle of the play or watching from inside the net? The home team players/coaches/crowd/parents don’t seem to get upset when there a penalty called against the visiting/opposing team. I’m not sure why though…🤔🤔🤔
@VitalGlory
@VitalGlory Жыл бұрын
@@brianjohnson7484 Dude refs get one look at a play at full speed and from most times at a non optimized angle. Fans and review get all angles in slow motion multiple times. Fans can be brutal sometimes lol. In addition, call a penalty on the ice is harder than calling a penalty in the stands because of perspective, and at ice level you actually see less because of moving bodies in front of you.
@coreyhill681
@coreyhill681 2 жыл бұрын
The one I remember was 2019 when Ottawa Senators got too many men penalty, then after that Colorado Avalanche was doing a change and one of the Avalanche players going over boards and then touched the puck, no call for too many men, doing the same thing that Ottawa senators did, and I still remember it, I was yelling at the TV going "What the hell" I was surprised no refs even called it
@Xhsjeiuwpuys234
@Xhsjeiuwpuys234 2 жыл бұрын
The Horcoff “glove pass” was in the season after the cup run.
@MathieuFerronMusic
@MathieuFerronMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact about the first goal : stephane auger is one of the refs on this one and he's a consultant for one of the broadcast networks in quebec. Imagine consulting this guy about referee calls lol.
@marcmardini6873
@marcmardini6873 2 жыл бұрын
The hand pass from the Oilers was actually the next season in 06-07 (pretty sure it was in November). The next meeting the two teams had was Stefan missing the empty net which kinda seems like karma in a way
@saint2e
@saint2e 2 жыл бұрын
Given the Oilers coach was wearing a poppy in the footage, this makes sense.
@DrewRycerz
@DrewRycerz 2 жыл бұрын
Trust me, Toronto's never gonna forget the Gilmour non call. - Nice music btw is that Goldeneye 64? I like your style bro lmao.
@jasongoodrick9463
@jasongoodrick9463 2 жыл бұрын
Jared Spurgeon trying to break Pavel Buchnevich ankles should have been a suspension.
@Krig13
@Krig13 2 жыл бұрын
You forgot the goal call from the 1999 Sabres Stars Stanley Cup final. The NHL has literally said that THE goal that resulted in the Stars winning the whole thing was ILLEGAL but since they had already awarded the cup and the Sabres were off the ice they just let it go.
@mattblom3990
@mattblom3990 2 жыл бұрын
Martin Gelinas goal vs. Tampa in the finals in 2004 still gets me. I knew that goal was in at the time, but in the era of high definition TV/replay that came just a few years later, no question, Calgary was robbed of a cup.
@xtraplayer7281
@xtraplayer7281 2 жыл бұрын
It was destiny and they were robbed. Gelinas scored the winning goal to eliminate each team the flames met that year. And it should have been that goal too.
@germanpancake88
@germanpancake88 2 жыл бұрын
Cannot believe you left out the infamous 99 no goal
@robertdimaggio7339
@robertdimaggio7339 2 жыл бұрын
2019 game 5 missed trip on Noel acciari completed changed the momentum of that cup run. That game goes into overtime if that doesn’t happen and Boston could’ve even won this series in 6 games with this call being made.
@lime7494
@lime7494 2 жыл бұрын
FUCKING FINALLY
@thebaconmanthony
@thebaconmanthony 2 жыл бұрын
It was a poor call indeed, but I don't think it changed the momentum of the series too much. Whoever lost game 5 was probably going to win game 6 imo. It was also a potential embellishment.
@willp.6093
@willp.6093 2 жыл бұрын
@@thebaconmanthony that’s not embellishment. His foot was over his head that’s not physically possible.
@dangerducky9466
@dangerducky9466 2 жыл бұрын
Hey there rob, I'm a ref. The first one for the "intent to blow the whistle", I've actually had to do this in local AA and A level hockey games. Usually for us, if we loose track of the puck, we have to blow it down, and if our linesman cant find it. And the intent to blow the whistle, You can't just blow the play down instantly, So giving the play goes on, the ref would probably blow the play down closer to a seccond earlier if we could blow the whistle down right then and there as we thought to. If our arms are going up, or we need to whistle it down, we do it. In our heads we think the play stops, and we react as quick as possible to stop the play, if after that little switch in our head for "dead play" is flipped, goals after it will be waved off.
@mathewhunter7826
@mathewhunter7826 2 жыл бұрын
I could be wrong, but I think the rule during the 92-93 season was if you high-sticked someone and it drew blood, you were out of the game, not just a double a minor like it is now. So Gretzky would have been completely ejected. If they called the high stick, by definition, they would have had to kick him out. I could be wrong, maybe someone can confirm?
@Khorney
@Khorney 2 жыл бұрын
Poor Holmström, the king/victim of reputation calls.
@ChromeWheelz1977
@ChromeWheelz1977 11 ай бұрын
THIS, this is exactly the reason why I have zero belief in the sanctity of the NHL anymore. Why I absolutely believe that the NHL has been systemically keeping Canadian teams from winning the cup. This video right here, is exhibit A in the argument that they don't want Canadian teams to win the cup.
@theWanderersnotebook
@theWanderersnotebook 9 ай бұрын
It isn’t coincidence that a Canadian team hasn’t won a Cup since the 1993 Canadiens and who was the commissioner then? Right it was Bettman and he has really shown an anti-Canadian bias in his tenure. You don’t have to look any further than the infamous Game 6 between Tampa and Calgary where Gélinas had a perfectly good goal disallowed that would have won Calgary their second Cup, the puck had clearly crossed the line as well but nope the zebras 🦓 hadn’t gotten their complimentary glasses 👓 from SpecSavers.
@BigAlvideos101
@BigAlvideos101 2 жыл бұрын
How about the 1999 Stanley Cup that was "won" by Dallas despite Brett Hull CLEARLY having his foot in the crease and as such, that goal shouldn't ever have counted!
@Toche44
@Toche44 2 жыл бұрын
The take on the Dahlin cross check is poor. Dahlin got a cross check to his head, Matthews was cross checked on his body, the two are not the same. One can cause serious injury (the matthews cross check) and the other is commonly used to remove a player from in front of the net (the Dahlin cross check). Just because you’re obviously a Leafs fan does not mean all calls against the Leafs are egregious.
@bardownproductions2309
@bardownproductions2309 2 жыл бұрын
he's not a Leafs fan
@itsbrucie1662
@itsbrucie1662 2 жыл бұрын
Fr that take is so dumb. There are Cross checks all the time to the body and Matthews went straight to the head
@munaclassic4020
@munaclassic4020 2 жыл бұрын
1 he isn't a leafs fan 2 super soft cross-checks were called in the season 3 tell that oh it's only to the body to the plethora of players who had upper body career ending injuries due to those cross-checks.
@johan1840
@johan1840 2 жыл бұрын
Also, Dahlin is defending the goal area. He also use more soft gloves then stick. Pretty easy call.
@jerd1245
@jerd1245 2 жыл бұрын
@@itsbrucie1662 he's comparing it to the ovi cross check
@CuratedPile
@CuratedPile 2 жыл бұрын
A "worst missed calls" video that doesn't include 2017 EDM/ANA Kesler wrapping his arm and stick around Talbot's pad and pulling NOT be considered goaltender interference on **VIDEO REVIEW** ?? I mean Kesler forced open the 5-hole that Rackell scored through. Unbelievable blown call that cost the Oilers a series win right there.
@tylerdog3
@tylerdog3 2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the 007 goldeneye music in the background. Thanks for that.
@BillsMafia82
@BillsMafia82 2 жыл бұрын
Rasmus Dahlin and Auston Matthews both should’ve got 2 minute minors for roughing, but Matthews sure as hell deserves the 2 game suspension as it was a cross check right to the neck. Dahlin didn’t deserve any games because they were not brutal cross checks or anything. But Matthews’ cross check was brutal so I think Matthews deserved the suspension.
@nickrawlins8570
@nickrawlins8570 11 ай бұрын
That first clip of Montreal was clear embellishment 😂
@nicolastomas8436
@nicolastomas8436 2 жыл бұрын
The Matthews crosscheck was dirty, Dahlin’s play was fine
@DutchJunior310
@DutchJunior310 2 жыл бұрын
That Matthews call was correct it was a net front battle with pushing maybe one cross check to the hip from dahlin the cross check to the neck was completely uncalled for
@tonychen3368
@tonychen3368 Жыл бұрын
Why the heck are they calling net Front Presence a Penalty?! It doesn't make any fucking sense! No way!
@jakobturk8013
@jakobturk8013 2 жыл бұрын
austin matthews one was a fair 2 games tbh, but i agree with the rest of your takes.
@NYCQuint
@NYCQuint 2 жыл бұрын
Absolute great video. I forgot about a bunch of these horrible calls.
@zachhardy.7
@zachhardy.7 2 жыл бұрын
One of the best hockey youtubers out there 🙌
@RobTalksHockey
@RobTalksHockey 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks brother!
@Ogchampayne
@Ogchampayne 2 жыл бұрын
This playoffs has got to be the worst officiating I’ve ever seen , nothing you can say about speed/ice level can save them either it’s like they’re not even out there sometimes
@asidethestart
@asidethestart 2 жыл бұрын
The clip you used of Dahlin "crosschecking" Matthews, doesn't look like one. Sure looks like he only has one hand on the stick when he actually contacts him. The first hit to Matthews could have been a crosscheck, but I haven't seen a good angle. The second one doesn't look like it to me. Matthews did clearly crosscheck Dahlin twice though.
@austinneveau9387
@austinneveau9387 2 жыл бұрын
Cross checking or not I dont want to see a dude not playing hockey and instead is focused on knocking someone over. And then Matthew's gets suspended because he retaliated to that bs? It couldve been avoided if the refs did their job.
@austinneveau9387
@austinneveau9387 2 жыл бұрын
Matthews didnt even have the puck lmao
@asidethestart
@asidethestart 2 жыл бұрын
@@austinneveau9387 Dahlin dod play hom aggressively after the hit Matthews gave him against the boards, but otherwise its clearing the front of the net. Happens constantly in every game. As soon as Mathews got up he gave Dahlin a hard cross check in the arm, befie the clip this video showed. It was pretty much normal hockey until the crosscheck to the neck.
@korynorman7837
@korynorman7837 2 жыл бұрын
@@asidethestart clearing the net you would push from behind he pushed him into the net
@asidethestart
@asidethestart 2 жыл бұрын
@@korynorman7837 well you definitely don't want to leave someone untouched in front of the net. Again I think Dahlin was more aggressive because the hit from earlier (although that hit seemed legal to me), but pushing a player in the crease is not a penalty to my knowledge. The cross check Matthews gave right after certainley was, but the refs let it go. I just dont understand these takes that Matthews was somehow the victim in all this. Leafs got lucky that he wasnt ejected.
@baber6070
@baber6070 2 жыл бұрын
this definitely needs a part 2-999
@LeDardeursPalace
@LeDardeursPalace 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know if you have any interest in football (soccer) but if you do and understand the rules enough or are willing to learn them, take a look at the missed calls in the English Premier League this season. I hardly watch hockey anymore but I come back to see videos like this to make me feel better about the refs in the EPL. Maybe watching the useless EPL refs can make you feel better about the zebras in the NHL.
@theWanderersnotebook
@theWanderersnotebook 9 ай бұрын
As a Liverpool fan I always have had a bone to pick with PGMOL and their handling of our matches, especially when it’s Paul Tierney involved in any capacity it really makes you think that there is an agenda against the Reds with the decisions he has made when officiating Liverpool matches.
@hendersongalbreath1072
@hendersongalbreath1072 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love the elevator music in the background of all the chaos and rage.
@kylestremick5108
@kylestremick5108 2 жыл бұрын
First time I heard someone who isn't a die hard Leaf fan acknowledge that Dahlin play. It's actually nice to see people talk about the inconsistency there.
@DutchJunior310
@DutchJunior310 2 жыл бұрын
It was a net front battle it’s ok to cross check someone in the hip in front of the net it didn’t call for a cross check to the net
@bennewmark8354
@bennewmark8354 2 жыл бұрын
I love the video format. You should've named it call instead of calls and make it lead up to the worst one. Makes it more suspenseful and more clickbait. Love the content hope you see this.
@danielgertler5976
@danielgertler5976 2 жыл бұрын
I've said it before and I'll say it again. "Let them play" is one thing, but when dirty plays are being made refs need to call them, because when they don't that's when players take matters into their own hands and players get injured. Honestly when injuries happen in games the refs on duty should get inquiries against them just as much as the players who committed the infraction.
@EveryTimeIDavid
@EveryTimeIDavid 2 жыл бұрын
Oooooh man, I had completely forgotten about the Koivu high stick!
@DidWeWin1
@DidWeWin1 2 жыл бұрын
I remember that era where a toe in the crease would nullify the goal. Something I hated so much, yet thinking about is oddly nostalgic.
@MrBigtime2
@MrBigtime2 2 жыл бұрын
Dahlin's "crosscheck" was nothing, maybe interference at most... Matthews clearly cross-checked him in the head afterwards in retaliation. Good call.
@Mrdest211
@Mrdest211 2 жыл бұрын
The first one is actually even worse, the reason why the ref "intended to blow the whistle" was because he lost sight of the puck, because it was in the net. Scoring the goal was the condition that made it possible for the goal to be discounted. That whole rule is insane and it's a wonder it rarely comes up. That rule literally says that the only game that actually matters is the one the refs see. Think about how absurd that is, everybody in the building could see it happen, but if 2 people in stripped jerseys don't, then it might as well have never happened at all.
@Nicolai488
@Nicolai488 Жыл бұрын
2019 stanley cup finals, boston vs st.louis, tyler bozak slew foot and all tripped a boston player with the puck while the refs watched! however no penalty was called and instead the blues would score and win the stanley cup. refs claim they never saw the trip, but, video review shows 2 refs clearly looking at the trip and not reacting. worst and most important missed call, this goal won the blues game 6 i believe and then they would go on to win game 7, but without this, boston would've won the cup in 6
@escolation
@escolation 2 жыл бұрын
In Europe head hits and cross checks are automaticly 2+10mins penalty so the players would not hit to head again and if they do it will be 5+20
@viewfromthehighchair9391
@viewfromthehighchair9391 2 жыл бұрын
I can put up with some of the on-ice miscalls as I understand the refs have a great deal to watch and, as stated in the video, hockey is an incredibly fast game up close. The first time I saw a game sitting in row 6, I nearly lost my mind as I had always watched from the nose bleeds previously. It was a completely different game. What I can't stand is the Toronto reviewing group who have multiple angles of clear video and consistently f*ck up every single call when asked to review. They either don't know what they are doing or, somehow, have an agenda to pick winners and losers. THEY ARE TERRIBLE and, if that's the best they can do, the NHL needs to get rid of video replay and just suffer with the bad calls by the refs within the game.
@Darthoil
@Darthoil 2 жыл бұрын
2017 2nd round Oilers vs Ducks Game 5. Kessler holding one of Talbot pads.
@moofey
@moofey 2 жыл бұрын
Can't forget the Stars' cup-winning no goal as well.
@grahamdamberger7130
@grahamdamberger7130 2 жыл бұрын
I still can't believe the refs didn't call Gretzky for the high stick on Gilmour. The league didn't even step in and give Gretzky a 1 game suspension or even a fine for the high stick.
@ruby2686
@ruby2686 2 жыл бұрын
I personally believe we should boycott the NHL for missed calls like that sometimes and force the refs to penalize generational talents when need be and catch them on their Bull crap.
@darthollpheist1156
@darthollpheist1156 2 жыл бұрын
The hand pass goal against the Flyers that the refs told the coach he wasn't allowed to challenge... then the NHL announced during the game that it was the refs mistake, yet they never fixed it. It's the worst thing I've ever seen a ref do to a team. Hands down.
@payrysdoscs4903
@payrysdoscs4903 2 жыл бұрын
0:25 My dad: *smiles proudly*
@farmonious420
@farmonious420 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing worse than the zebras ruining to outcome of a game. Keep up the great vids. Stay Happy and Healthy
@dude_2096
@dude_2096 2 жыл бұрын
literally every canucks game i go to there’s a “REF YOU SUCK”
@lokei1326
@lokei1326 2 жыл бұрын
You missed the San Jose hand pass leading to the OT winner against the Blues that Helen Keller would have seen.
@dilididli2274
@dilididli2274 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, the no goal for embelishement was so stupid. I can understand thata ref won't see everything in the heat of the game. But that one feel like it is some sort of vendetta.
@Bagarmossens
@Bagarmossens 2 жыл бұрын
Bad take on the matthews/dahlin play. Quite obvious matthews was just frustrated after dahlin PUSHED him around and he snapped.
@SchulzEricT
@SchulzEricT Жыл бұрын
He shot it, and the puck went DIRECTLY into the goal. So the ref said "I intended to blow the whistle before he shot it." Um... no you didn't. Fucking christ.
@SchulzEricT
@SchulzEricT Жыл бұрын
Saku Koivu, first European Captain of the Canadiens.
@SchulzEricT
@SchulzEricT Жыл бұрын
Is there a more overrated "missed call" than Grezky's high stick in OT of a playoff game? It's OT of a playoff game, the refs aren't calling that shit.
@SchulzEricT
@SchulzEricT Жыл бұрын
Matthews wasn't cross-checked by Dahlin, he was pushed. Cross-checking requires you to put two hands on your stick and to hit the offending player with the shaft of your stick in between your hands. Why in the world would you call that cross-checking?
@SchulzEricT
@SchulzEricT Жыл бұрын
At no point. does ANYTHING Dahlin do. Remotely resemble a cross-check.
@kevmac1230
@kevmac1230 2 жыл бұрын
Speaking of" back in the day " in general before goalies started playing the "flop around on their knees" style, wraparound goals were far less common. When I played in the dark ages of the 60s - 70s, if a goalie let one in like that the coach would go nuts on us for what was then perceived as "weak goals." How the game has changed.
@Vacuon
@Vacuon 2 жыл бұрын
That embelishment no goal at the begining is totally insane
@davidcorrow4070
@davidcorrow4070 Жыл бұрын
That 1st detroit intent to blow wistle lol that was crazy lol 😅😅😅
@badgerfan1837
@badgerfan1837 7 ай бұрын
I'm not a Red Wings fan, but the Brad May goal should've counted 110%. The whistle was after the puck was in the net. Today that play would be a goal after discussion with the situation room in Toronto. Many of these plays have resulted in rule changes, but it's sad that it takes a play like that to make a change.
@matthewgaynor843
@matthewgaynor843 2 жыл бұрын
that dahlin on Matthews thing was a good non call. Stuff like this happens every single game its hockey not soccer. Matthews retaliated and went too far by crosschecking dahlin directly in the face. its safe to say rob is a leafs fan
@tylerjanssen4731
@tylerjanssen4731 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same exact thing. Great video until he exposed himself for believing Matthews to be his lord and savior.
@IcyMantaray
@IcyMantaray 2 жыл бұрын
dahlin ducked, it was going to be a shoulder shot until he ducked and covered when he was gonna get his own medicine back
@Jabberwok28
@Jabberwok28 2 жыл бұрын
@@IcyMantaray Irrelevant. Mathews went in looking to injure, Dahlin “ducking” has no bearing.
@IcyMantaray
@IcyMantaray 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jabberwok28 dahlin went in looking to injure matthews was responding ducking because you're a pansy and getting yourself hurt is completely relevant to this scenario, it's the same as turning your back when you're about to get hit and then crying about it being on the numbers. You wanna play bang bang with the big boys don't be a coward
@AnHourOfWolves
@AnHourOfWolves 2 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to seeing your video on all of the penalties we've seen in the playoffs this year! It's been quite amazing to see how many there have been tbh. I am all for player safety, and I would ideally like to see body contact removed from the game altogether, as well as cages introduced, but seeing half the period having penalties, it's weird.
@drossi101
@drossi101 2 жыл бұрын
You should go watch golf then.
@AnHourOfWolves
@AnHourOfWolves 2 жыл бұрын
@@drossi101 No thanks, that game is too slow and uneventful for me. I'd much rather watch hockey!
@drossi101
@drossi101 2 жыл бұрын
@@AnHourOfWolves doesn’t sound like it.
@mam362
@mam362 2 жыл бұрын
intent to blow the whistle takes into account that our nervous system takes a little bit of time to process what we are seeing, decide how to respond, and then cause us to respond
@hannahb9563
@hannahb9563 8 ай бұрын
gotta say, bad calls do suck, but screaming “ref you suck” at a game has to be one of my favorite things.
@adammunro2412
@adammunro2412 2 жыл бұрын
Miss the Sunday morning uploads😭
@RobTalksHockey
@RobTalksHockey 2 жыл бұрын
They will be back 🙌🏻
@adammunro2412
@adammunro2412 2 жыл бұрын
@@RobTalksHockey thx let’s gooo! Every Sunday morning waking up I would always watch these
@nogitsune4542
@nogitsune4542 2 жыл бұрын
havent watched the vid yet, but i fully expect Las superman Punch goal to be in there
@mgodidek
@mgodidek 2 жыл бұрын
This video ageing like fine wine after game 5 of the battle of alberta
@MrZachtheKingsfan
@MrZachtheKingsfan 2 жыл бұрын
I guess the ‘93 illegal stick called against the Kings during the Finals was hockey karma for the Leafs series haha
@iix23
@iix23 2 жыл бұрын
McSorley is a hero here in MTL :D
@sudsysutherland359
@sudsysutherland359 2 жыл бұрын
Before i even watch this I’m sure the classic Wayne Gretzky & Doug Gilmour incident will be on this list lol & Kery Fraser as the referee. Geez that series between Toronto & L.A. in 1993 is just shy of 30yrs ago already.
@mapleleafsinsights1150
@mapleleafsinsights1150 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for saying that abt matthews it needed to be said
@sturdy8936
@sturdy8936 2 жыл бұрын
Bro sleeping on lacrosse over here claiming this is faster lol
@blakegamingtv7513
@blakegamingtv7513 2 жыл бұрын
The Oilers hand pass call was actually during the 2006-07 season, the season following their cup run. You can tell because McGeough is wearing a helmet lol
@axe2grind244
@axe2grind244 2 жыл бұрын
Brett Hulls goal in the Cup finals against Buffalo is one of the worst calls in pro sports history.
@marilllover2177
@marilllover2177 2 жыл бұрын
one of the most recent bullshit ref moments was when during round 2 of this years playoffs leafs vs bolts when a leafs player get's shoved into the net and tampa doesn't get a call and then a bolts player trips marner and no call. and then a leafs player lightly touches a guy and get's a 2 min pp.
@alphajkings3284
@alphajkings3284 2 жыл бұрын
the whole MTL VGK series last year had some of the worst reffing I’ve ever seen
@silentnyrf3161
@silentnyrf3161 2 жыл бұрын
I remember that series for flowers fumble that cost VGK the series
@partypancake7287
@partypancake7287 2 жыл бұрын
The Shaw headbutt goal comes to mind for me. I know it wasn’t on the refs but it’s still a stupid rule.
@adrianoelblanco9586
@adrianoelblanco9586 2 жыл бұрын
Ottawa soccer kick goal in the series vs the habs was pure pain
@mastrum19
@mastrum19 2 жыл бұрын
For the sharks, the Clowe play from the bench or the league changing Meier hand pass
@Seriously_Unserious
@Seriously_Unserious 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a bit surprised those infamous Hawks vs Canucks goals of the 2009, 2010 and 2011 playoff matchups involving the Hawks scoring goals with Dustin Byfuglien literally holding Luongo down on the ice creating an empty net and no goalie interference being called?! For the first 2 of those 3 series, the Hawks would win round 1 on those blown calls and one of them led to the Hawks winning a series and going on to win the Cup, that if you took away those illegal goals, would have gone to the Canucks, NOT the Hawks winning in 2009, 2010 AND 2011. In 2011, then GM Mike Gillis finally had had enough and called the league out for bad/corrupt officiating and with the world watching, the refs were forced to call the final 3 games of that series fair. The Canucks won and went on to come within 1 win of finally winning the Stanley Cup, before another rash of some of the worst calls costing them the Cup. I'm talking plays like Todd Marchand repeatedly punching Hendrick Sedin in the face, no call, Hendrick finally has had enough and facewashes Marchand, penalty! AND Canuck hot prospect, the speedy Mason Raymond, was causing the Bruins fits with his speed, until another Bruin ended his season by holding Raymond folded over like a pretzel and ramming him head first into the boards while crumpled up in a dangerous position, causing a BROKEN NECK which could have been deadly, no call, no suspension, the league saying that was a LEGAL HIT! LEGAL! Are you EFFING KIDDING ME!? Raymond missed most of the next season, and when he finally did come back from that broken neck injury, he was no longer the blaze of speed he once was and his career faded into nothing much. He could have been one of the game's big stars, but for all those blown calls. Had the refs been calling dirty plays all along, that dirty hit would likely never have happened as the Bruin who did it would have expected it to be 5 minute match penalty for intentional attempt to injure, and would also have probably meant him being suspended for at least the rest of the playoffs. Knowing those dirty plays weren't being called, they felt they could take liberties they may not have otherwise. I saw those calls mainly because, I watch mostly Canucks games, but I do know that crap goes on for many other teams and it needs to stop. I know the excuse is "let them play the game" by letting them not play the game and just play some sort of weird WWE/NHL hybrid game in the playoffs where the rules aren't the rules, they're just suggestions the refs and players can follow or ignore as they see fit. That's NOT "playing the game" that's ruining the game. Letting them play the game would mean calling the rules that define what the game is as fairly, and competently as possible. If a ref sees an infraction, JUST CALL IT. I don't care if it's the first shift of the first game of exhibition play and Joe Nobody breaks a rule on Auston Matthews, or overtime in game 7 of the Stanley Cup finals and Sydney Crosby just committed a penalty on Joe Nobody. If the rules say it's a penalty, it's a penalty, no matter who did what to who, or when. A penalty is a penalty is a penalty. Call it like that and I guarantee you'd have a lot less confusion about what will or won't be called, and a lot less controversy that's only a humiliation for the league and makes the NHL look like a bush league.
@RathJ13
@RathJ13 2 жыл бұрын
consistency is the problem here. Even within the same game. they will let things go all game, then all of a sudden late in the 3rd decide "oh thats now a penalty" Ref's set a precedent for whats allowed and whats not, when they change it throughout a game, they are literally deciding the fate of the game.
@isaacwest276
@isaacwest276 2 жыл бұрын
I say this as an Edmonton fan who has a secret love for the Flames (not enough for them to win of course): I want a repeat of 2004; I want the Flames go all the way until they lose in game 7 of the Stanley Cup final with the game-winning goal being the result of controversial goal scored by a Florida team (don't care which one).
@Ciipher5113
@Ciipher5113 2 жыл бұрын
Ouch.
@Tre16
@Tre16 2 жыл бұрын
I'm betting it will be the Oilers vs Lighting
@drossi101
@drossi101 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tre16 You’re crazy if you think the oilers have a chance against the Avs lol. Stanley cup will be Avs/ lightning.
@Tre16
@Tre16 2 жыл бұрын
@@drossi101 fools said the same about beating the Flames, yet here we are. Go Oilers.
@drossi101
@drossi101 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tre16 Lmao yeah maybe flames fans. Those two teams were evenly matched. Avs would have steam rolled either team. Flames and oilers never had a chance against blues or Avs. They barely made it by LA 😂
@miccrhaafetl5101
@miccrhaafetl5101 2 жыл бұрын
Wings vs Kings a few years ago. A high shot off the netting above the glass, came back into play and wings scored. the ref's allowed the goal.
@pathindsley
@pathindsley 2 жыл бұрын
This video's take on "worst" is more inconsistent than the refs. Why isn't Martin Gelinas's no goal not in here? Why isn't the Timo Meier hand pass to Eric Karlsson on here? Why is Brad May's goal in here but not those? Why is Matthews trying to rip Dahlin's head off on here as a missed call?
@MrDinospike
@MrDinospike 2 жыл бұрын
You missed the Penguins having too many skaters for more than a minuet in the Stanley cup final
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