The WORST projectile in Smash

Welcome to The WORST projectile in Smash. Where I talk about what I believe to be the worst projectile in Smash Ultimate (Bowser Jr Cannonball)... I hope you enjoy the video also let me know how I can improve my videos in the comments if you'd like!
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[@edoardocaccia6226]

What's even crazier is that this move was significantly buffed since sm4sh. It was just completely unusable. At least now it falls earlier so it can cover some really weird recovery angles that most other characters couldn't really contest

[@itsagamerfgc]

Yeah for sure, I played smash 4 for fun a few months ago and my god is that move horrible in that game

[@edwinoko]

When i become a bowser JR main i will be using canonball exclusively.

[@itsagamerfgc]

Damn, that's tough.

[@RealityParrot]

Im a Bowser Jr Main I can say that cannonball, mechakoopa and side b together leads to insane stage control

[@itsagamerfgc]

That's fair, I think Mecha Koopa and side b are crucial to Jrs gameplan, cannonball not so much tho imo

[@Embrusp]

I’m a Ludwig and Hero main. The canon ball is insane when wanting to rule over space. Take the Mecha koopa and side be. A bonus is if you follow the canon ball and then continue up air or up throw Mechakoopa forcing them to come down among all projection while you run over them

[@itsagamerfgc]

If you can set it up correctly it's alright but 9/10 times you get punished for using it, especially offline. Side B is really good and mecha koopa is also quite a good move but I personally consider cannonball much worse than those 2 moves

[@Viridiumm]

I still use it because I’m a masochist. Also I remember that one clip where hbox got his shield broken by the canon ball and he died instantly. Great video btw, enjoyed it :)

[@itsagamerfgc]

Haha yee I remember that, also thank you! I put a ton of effort into it!

[@juniormachternst]

it might be true that the move is the worst Projektile but, it has more (situational) usage. As example: in Disadvantage off stage, you can charge and fire it to hit the opponent or at least make it easier to recover. in Advantage if your opponent is trying to recover, you can jump above the ledge and charge it. the you release it right next to the ledge and you will shot the cannonball and ledge-cancel the move.The move is also good to force the Opponent to recover more Obvious or it can lead to make him use one of his resources (jump as an example) or even in a kill cuz they normally don't know when it comes down. The move has it usage, even if it's kinda niche.

[@itsagamerfgc]

Oh fair enough, some of these situations I didn't consider. Thank you!

[@Chill-Noob1]

If we’re treating Kirby’s up special as a projectile then Kirby’s is the worst projectile

[@itsagamerfgc]

Yeah I responded to another comment where I started that I didn't count it as Kirby Up B also functions as a recovery

[@Chill-Noob1]

@@itsagamerfgc I saw it 😅

[@Chill-Noob1]

@@itsagamerfgc What about fox’s laser?

[@itsagamerfgc]

@@Chill-Noob1 oh that's a fair argument, however I believe Fox laser is good for forcing characters to approach along with his reflector this is especially really good in the context of Fox being a rushdown character that really likes fighting up close. It's not an amazing projectile by any means but I do believe it's better then Cannonball. Thanks for your comment!

[@oz0006]

Other good thing me when you get hit very hard, you throw the cannon ball up and then falls down. It uses to mantain on distance to your oponnent when you try to recover. But you are right in everything else.

[@itsagamerfgc]

True, I forgot to mention that. I also use that as a mixup sometimes. Thanks for the comment!

[@MrGameguyC]

IMO this move is tied with Byleth's Failnaught as the worst. The arrows' startup are so slow that even MKleo couldn't consistently land them At least it can Shield-Cancel the first half, so it's useful for B-Reverses. IMO, matching the usefulness of Clown Cannon's ability to ledge-cancel, cutting off it's lag and making it decent to condition certain recovery paths. Pick your poison.

[@itsagamerfgc]

Ya know what, that's fair. Byleth's Nuetral B is also really bad. I personally think it's slightly better then cannonball (like very slightly) because you can actually cancel it. But I do agree with your "pick your poison" statement as they're both really bad moves. Thanks for your comment!

[@MrGameguyC]

@@itsagamerfgc You're welcome! It does seem that even the weakest projectiles still have some valid uses. They're just situational and or not the most impactful.

[@itsagamerfgc]

@@MrGameguyC Indeed, there's very few moves in Ultimate that actually have no use in competitive play. Even moves that are pretty much considered worthless like Warlock punch have a niche as a shield break punish (It's still a horrible move tho).

[@MrGameguyC]

​@@itsagamerfgc Exactly. Ganon being one of the better Shield Breaking characters gave that move some life. Also nice to see most of Mac's aerials get some niche focus. (Minus Bair)

[@thebwahboi7616]

I'm a Jr. main, it's not even close to worst. its very helpful for edgeguarding because the hitbox is out for a while and is pretty big, and remains active when it falls so it can hit opponents below the stage. It does a lot of damage to shields so it can be used into baiting your opponent into jumping over it, which is very predictable.

[@itsagamerfgc]

I understand why you'd think that, but usually we can't even punish the opponent for the jump directly due to the end lag that cannonball has so you have to predict what they land with which is a lot harder especially cuz most landing aerials are extremely hard to punish. But that's just my opinion on it, thanks for the comment

[@Iamverykarpy]

not trying to disagree but you cant say its not the worst and not mention what you think is the worst instead

[@Avaitor_YT]

​​@@Iamverykarpy Well for that you'd need to name every projectile But Ivy neutral B is the worst

[@Iamverykarpy]

@@Avaitor_YT ok thats actually a good choice, bullet seed is a fun move but like, its just a worse gunner up air

[@Loonalol]

Used to main bjr and his cannon ball is a great edge guard and ledge trap tool if spaced properly

[@itsagamerfgc]

I agree with edgeguarding, don't see how it's that good for ledgetrapping when you have Mecha Koopa, and long lasting disjoints in his aerials and forward smash for example but to each their own

[@Loonalol]

@@itsagamerfgc I used it similar to ptooie

[@NerdBanjo]

Not a competive player but I find stuff like this interesting to watch I'm a jr main but even as a casual jr main I find this move hard to land and this video makes it worse Good video Also while I'm a jr main I'm mostly a plant main I'd like to see what you think about ptooie if you haven't made a video on it already

[@itsagamerfgc]

Hey, thanks for your comment. Funnily enough I secondary Plant while maining Jr and there's a video about Plant in the works! Ptooie isn't the only subject I cover in the video but a good amount of the video is covering ptooie, these videos do take me a lot of time due to the editing it requires but I'll publish it as soon as it's finished.

[@Avaitor_YT]

@@itsagamerfgc lol same

[@vaexsil]

Commenting to boost the algorithem. Great video btw!

[@itsagamerfgc]

Thanks so much! (Praying that I get more then 3 impressions from youtube)

[@Austin_3000]

A lot of other jr mains (like myself) have pointed out some very helpful use cases, but what about ivysaur neutral b being the worst since its basically a worthless move

[@itsagamerfgc]

Hmmm, that might be a contender ngl. I think it's close between those 2, I'd still say Cannonball because Ivy neutral b leads to more damage and has better frame data but they're both really bad. Thanks for your comment!

[@Dino_Burger]

As someone who actually plays bowser junion I completely dissagree, it has a large variety of uses and is actually quite good. It is used for covering space and for being used with his down b to cover a lot of space

[@itsagamerfgc]

Well I understand your point about it covering space you usually get punished for using it due to the terrible frame data it has, but if you can find a use for it good on you, thanks for the comment!

[@jevorok3905]

so cannonball does definitely have some uses in neutral/soft advantage since you can follow behind it for added pressure, like a budget tjolt. Still bad but definitely not useless

[@itsagamerfgc]

I dunno about neutral in a lot of cases but soft advantage I can see your point, it's not a useless projectile but just a really bad one in my opinion. Thanks for your comment

[@astinotg7912]

One pro is that it is pretty good at confusing level 9 cpus for the achievements

[@itsagamerfgc]

Huh, that's actually really interesting. I didn't note that as it's not really a part of competitive smash ultimate but that's cool to know, thank you!

[@noahlovotti7722]

You can actually very very situationally shoot above and forward tilt the opponent into it... It still doesn't kill. Just looks cool.

[@itsagamerfgc]

Oh ye I forgot to mention that, it also works with a couple other moves like side b but it's not practical most of the time

[@Thejaintthere]

The ultimate video of all time

[@HunterBATLightning]

As a bowser jr main it’s mostly for reflecting something and especially falling down.

[@itsagamerfgc]

Wdym by "reflecting something"?

[@HunterBATLightning]

King dededes spike ball destroying samus missiles,mario fire ball I meant to say destroying some if your close also to shoot it at them so they shield so you can get another fast attack mainly

[@benjaminlura7318]

Other bad projectiles could Ne Diddys peanut gun just does not really do anything. Even as fully charged, it takes a lot of frames and the damage output is not good. Not to mention that his Banana projectile heavely outshines it. Unpopular opinion but I really dont like Jokers projectiles are that good if Arsend is not active. His Guns does not even shot far at all, does not flinch the target. And Joker is already fast anyways so he should just approach his enemies. Even though his other attacks are not that good or strong either. Had Joker not had his Arsend mecanic, he could have easily been a low Tier like Ganon.

[@Henryakadawgno]

Thought that was a high boi video for a second

[@itsagamerfgc]

Who's that?

[@dominickfalmarin-yb8xv]

As a bj main the way you use this projectile is to cut them off from stage

[@itsagamerfgc]

Yeah, I mention that in the video that it's a decent edgeguarding tool

[@miguelcrafter2997]

Idk what you are trying to cook but this is a good projectile , can't convincr otherwise

[@dean4895]

Cool video!

[@itsagamerfgc]

Thanks, I appreciate it!

[@kirbydude667]

I think Kirby’s up special is worse.

[@itsagamerfgc]

I think the projectile utility of the move is ye. I didn't count it because it's also a recovery move which makes it better than Cannonball imo

[@AverageKatz]

I will reconsider using that move, ill stick with mecha koopas

[@itsagamerfgc]

Yea, Mecha Koopa is actually pretty good but Cannonball ain't it XD

[@AverageKatz]

@@itsagamerfgc reminds me of peach turnips, but incredibly buffed (walking, exploding)

[@gureikuroko]

Just realised the name of the move is "Clown Cannon". My day just got a little bit better. 😊 Good work! Keep making the videos 🫡

[@itsagamerfgc]

Thanks so much! Also for the feedback on discord, I really appreciate it. I'll definitely be making more videos in the future

[@shau_20]

Great vid!

[@itsagamerfgc]

Thanks!

[@ChillyWillie0]

Bayonetta up tilt gun

[@Born-On-A-Monday-rx2zt]

Two things...how did this get in my recommended. And two, how does his video have such small views and likes despite it containing quite useful information for Bowser Jr mains or Bowser Jr players in general. PS: When I sometimes pick Bowser Jr, I never use canon ball in general because it's just....no...

[@itsagamerfgc]

Thanks so much for your comment! I think it's getting recommended more now haha, but my channel is rather new so it probably took some time before it got picked up by the algorithm.

[@Born-On-A-Monday-rx2zt]

@@itsagamerfgc Your welcome....I for some reason enjoy smaller KZbin channels.

[@goldflake71]

2 things (no offence) 1. underrated 2. you need a mic when you can get one

[@itsagamerfgc]

Yeah that's fair, I do actually have a decent mic so I think I just messed up my settings or something. Thanks for the advice

[@unusualed1287]

Idc what u say man i sauce with the cannonball

[@mawilep]

As a main bowser jr i agree

[@itsagamerfgc]

🤝

[@boxbotstarshot]

as a bj main just cope fr

[@BurgerBoy-zq7uy]

Air Mac

[@dontlikesand]

banger vid

[@itsagamerfgc]

Thanks so much! I appreciate it!

[@boiaaang]

hi i'm the only junior main in existence. cannonball is cool as hell. kirby's final cutter projectile is the worst in the game because you can't use it for anything at all. bowser's fire breath, luigi's stupid fireball, rosalina's star bits, and lucas's PK thunder are also worse than GOATball.

[@itsagamerfgc]

To each their own, but I definitely think it's better then all the projectiles you listed except Kirby Up B, which I didn't count as the move is also a recovery

[@andrewcavallo1877]

Nah, gordo is much worse. Long startup, can be reflected by anything, only 50% chance of sticking to ledge

[@TedzillaIsVeryCool]

Does a lot more damage though I think

[@itsagamerfgc]

I feel like in a vacuum maybe but Dedede can still inhale his gordo for mix-ups and it has much better frame data. Either way both projectiles are pretty bad haha