The Worst Ranked Mode Ever Created

[@kirby2567]

"We understand your frustration. Triple battle tag team coming soon" ~Arcsys probably

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

lmao

[@umjamer]

literally what the hell are you supposed to do when you are better than floor 10 but understandably not good enough to fight FUCKING LEFFEN or someshit.

[@Nyagro]

Was also my experience but against Latif, lol Also, the tower doesn't help the mediocre gameplay. Stoppped playing the game around season 3. You felt how shitty it was once I booted up SF6 and could get so many matches in. And after Daisuke's vision of the Mahjong ass gameplay of Strive, the volatility of SF6 didn't seem that huge anymore...

[@guringoo]

​@@Nyagronailed it, exactly how I felt as well

[@marik8770]

@@Nyagroskill issue, stop complaining, u are not pro level, it matter only at this level

[@guringoo]

@@marik8770 yeah u def didn't watch the video

[@valeoncat13]

Your choices are to find the fun in getting obliterated by Leffen every 20 minutes, until you get to celestial and it happens again... or become what you hate the most and dodge anyone hard. Thanks, Arcsys.

[@lara6489]

You guys have floors?! Down here in OC servers we literally just have one lobby in the open park. Nobody is even in the tower except for Sunday night where everyone just goes to floor 10.

[@remuvs]

A fella dreams of the day Tower Day is EVERYDAY.

[@josepass2563]

Bro tryna find matches in OCE is a lost cause, rip.

[@FungallyInfectious]

not to mention that there’s not many in park either, atp I just join Japan servers and pray that they have less than 200 ping

[@hhaei]

"wow, youre better than the floor 10 sols and rams! now fight gobou" ive failed the celestial challenge like 5 times man give me a break

[@darktesti]

I´ve been on Celestial like 10 times and ALWAYS got demoted because of the high-level players there. There is almost no chance (ALMOST) to stay there

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

lmao

[@yannilibbes8219]

2 seperate celestial challenges started me off with kizzie and the other with lord knight. meaning i either have to either: win a set against an actual pro to not lose my opportunity to rank up or one and done the pro (win or lose) and hope I don't see another. this is bad incentive. i should not have to play a top 20+ player to be able to continue my grind towards top 10% of the playerbase lmao

[@hhaei]

i hit it today lmao

[@silverphoenix4934]

​@@yannilibbes8219Daisuke gives his hardest battles to his strongest soldiers 😌(this shit stinks)

[@liv3vil-Kei]

Every Arcsys ranked mode is the worst ranked mode.

[@BiggBossChanel]

I think dnf worked fine. You get promoted by wins until you get to deity and once you get there it's just an ELO system. Pretty similar to sf6

[@lil_Alii1]

dbfz was fine but people close apps when they seeing losing the game so it doesnt counts as lose

[@sahkovalo]

GBVSR ranked is fine imo.

[@Beans-do6wc]

@@lil_Alii1 dbfz had the most rage quit games ive ever experienced

[@boringinu2077]

​i still think xrd/cf ranked mode is fine but is much much harsher compare recent arc game's.

[@petree]

The kicking into an empty lobby pisses me off so much lol

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

Insult to injury

[@lucianoaguero6795]

The tower model was always a super weird choice

[@retr0greg]

As a lower level player that doesn’t invest a ton of time in this game anymore, I hate that I get ping-ponged around to different floors after winning or losing 2 sets. My actual skill level is probably floor 8 or 9 but I’ve gone from 6-10 any given day based on who I happen to run into. It doesn’t make any sense.

[@markblkwth]

Same here. I've been kicked down to Floor 7 only to rise back up to Floor 9 so many times that it feels like a daily chore. But I also hate how inconsistent climbing down and up feels: sometimes, I only need to lose two or three sets to get kicked down but sometimes I need more; when trying to climb back up, I'll either need three good sets in a row or almost ten.

[@flamemdq]

In paper the tower is a GREAT idea; but in execution the problem falls just like you say. Everyone stuck in 10, and if you get into Celestial, WELCOME TO TOP 16 EVO... in your home, without reward

[@Preachamain]

Yeah! Who would ever want the chance to run into the real fucking deal in their game? ...ME! Am I the only one that thinks that's the coolest shit ever? Are you all just so butthurt over a loss that you wouldn't go 0-10 vs Kizzie Kay for the experience? Those matches have more value than anything else you can do in the game.

[@flamemdq]

@@Preachamain on the contraire mate, you know why? I'm gonna give 2 reasons. First is the feeling for people learning the game, who wants to rank properly, get better and the game, don't get stomp that faster (also, let's be honest, celestial challenge is a freaking Carnage without rewards outside the YOU ARE STRONG). But you may insist with this thing and I can't blame you... Except for second reason, I'm not from NA, I'm from SA, you know how many people are in tower a Friday night or Saturday afternoon in tower? 50? Congratulations...! No, total, I mean 50 in all the floors at same time, so, those tower 4 are forced to go to tower 10 or just jump into the park and The Universal Will may know what the actual hell is gonna be the opponent even if says lvl 15... I lost so many potential players friends like this

[@Preachamain]

@flamemdq okay, yeah. That's all super valid. I didn't really realize how blessed I was on NA West until I came down here and educated myself.

[@killerkonnat]

It would be fine if Celestial had another 10 floors.

[@michellea.793]

i find it interesting that for strives controversial change to the gg formula, the one aspect that unanimously EVERYONE hates is the tower system, the more i think about it the the more it just sounds genuinely fucking stupid to the point where i wonder why they even shipped this

[@broly246810]

Who ever came up with this “ranked” system and the lobby shouldn’t touch fighting games again.

[@AlexanderMartinez-kd7cz]

that person shouldn't touch a computer again.

[@jahmman8984]

As a player of lower skill I feel that sort of. There are barely any players on my floor which makes it hard to find matches with people at my skill level.

[@PunpunRen]

Had the same problem when I started fighting games with rev2 and no one even played in my entire region

[@LFC608]

When i first played this game in 2021, I thought there's no way they'll keep this kind of "ranked" system. Yet, here we are.

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

Yeah the game had not really improved aside from more characters

[@danielm5161]

Changing the lobby and ranked system from the ground up at this point is way too expensive and time consuming. There might be tweaks to how people move between floors but an overhaul ain't happening.

[@KeshavKrishnan]

@@danielm5161a simple change could fix this tho. Letting the floors matter by allowing people to derank would fix this

[@danielm5161]

@@KeshavKrishnan Yeah thats what I said, tweaks to how people move between floors is doable.

[@shawnr8438]

Thank you. One of the main reasons i dropped strive. Got Vip by sheer luck one month(everyone who challenged me were trying to qualify too). It felt like a punishment. Id then get dodged constantly by people who were probably closer to my skill level or absolutely destroyed by other vips who would challenge me. I quit that month. Seriously, getting "rewarded" was the final straw for me. Havent played sense.

[@yurizoku4943]

The fact you can choose opponent and character to fight in RANKED mode always was hilarious for me. it just can't be a serious skill-based matchmaking when you always can cherrypick the best matchup possible. And because of many players actually doing it, finding mathces becomes even more difficult. Also, sometimes promotion/demotion from floor to floor feels completely random, and skill gap between this floors can be really huge. I dislike strive for many reasons, but ranked system is one of most obvious and worst of them.

[@KeshavKrishnan]

When I started playing arrive around release I couldn't get to floor 10. Because I always got dodged. Nobody wanted to fight sol so I just could not get matches

[@danman3268]

Strive is such a bizarre game to me because I love the gameplay, animation, music, and energy of the game but the Tower System kills any desire I have to play the game.

[@kevinfelix2302]

The fact that sets have been this weird 3 games and done shit since release still bothers the fuck out of me lmao, someone wins two games and then both players have to play this weird third game where the guy that won before doesn't really give a shit if they lose because they know they won the set and the guy losing knows no matter how hard they try on the third game they lost that shit lol.

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

Yuppppppp

[@SuperERC]

The tower system is so fucking terrible. Not just the worst ranking system I’ve played in fg’s but in any video game I’ve played ever. I feel like a random guy who is illiterate and has no hands would do a better job of ranking and setting up who plays against who if you give them a pen and paper. It pisses me off knowing that they’re willing to double down on it in any future game because they’ve done so like 4 fucking times in this games lifecycle alone Edit: also the fact that it has never worked as in the majority of the time if I press x on a machine and it’ll either give me an error or keep me stuck glitched in some weird loading that’ll ultimately kick me into the start screen of the game is insane lol

[@Saiche1337]

I stopped playing the game because every session was a 30 minute session where I stomp every on floor 10, win 2-4 of my games in celestial, go back down and repeat about 7 times until I close the game. Worst ranked system in any game I've ever played, and I have no clue how they haven't fixed it yet.

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

10000%

[@danzelthegreat]

it's crazy cause people been saying how shit the tower was since the beta and ASW still pushed it.

[@LANMEE2]

Thank you, there are places to try to reinvent the wheel but ranked mode is not that place. We just want to press the queue button and get matched vs the opponent of the sameish mmr. It is actually that easy.

[@qspec2002]

They were so concerned that people find ranked stressful that they managed to come up with a hybrid solution that combines that worst parts of lobbies and the worst parts of ranked! Ironically, they actually made it more stressful...

[@GBFGO-PLAYER]

>re: point #3 being able to choose who you can play against in ranked based on seeing which character they selected is probably one of the worst design choices ever as it incentives purposely dodging one's unfavorable matchups for their favorable matchups in order to maximize their win rate and streamline their path to higher ranks. imo the whole point of ranked is that it's supposed to be like tests in school: you are supposed to study as much of the material that *could* be on the test as much as you can in order to it maximize your chances of getting a high score. ranked in fgs is similar too, want to maximize your win rate / make your path to the high ranks as easy as it can be? better study up on all the game's characters and how they interact with your main. but then again a majority of the fgc only labs combos and setups and barely studies matchups so i suppose it's quite fitting and poetic that they made a guilty gear for "babbies" such as strive have a ranked match system designed like this.

[@Vatistah]

I litterally just opened the game for like the first time with the idea of playing ranked. I tried to understand the in-game ranking mode, didn't make sense to me, came here, understood it actually doesn't make any sense...

[@N00BSYBORG]

Putting everybody in the same room at the highest rank to glaze scrubs is bad for the player experience? That's crazy, man. If only people were pointing out how ass this lobby was 3 years ago.

[@PunpunRen]

Bbcf 1.0 was not even functional when I started playing, but nowdays it works, and nothing is worse than GGST ranked system

[@sereyr716]

Dude the tower system is freaking garbage. I dont feel any progress whatsoever while playing. When i played more regurlarly, i won 3 matches, got to celestial, get destroyed, lose 3 or more fights, go to floor 9 or 8, destroy everyone there. All this in one day, every day.

[@zeokenx2]

Not to mention the smurfing that goes on in the lower rank floors,its a joke and its why Iam usually in the parks.They smurf there too but its less common than in Floor 10 and up

[@lojika1majik]

@@zeokenx2I haven’t actually seen a Smurf yet.

[@fabulouschester5106]

Fucked up thing is because of what you said, there's actually no quantifiable way to communicate your skill to another player. Like, saying "I bounce between floors 7-9" doesn't say too much other than "I'm still improving." But even in these floors the skill gap can be surprising. I just wish we had something more regimented.

[@LecorbakOfficial]

at the beginning of the game, the floors levels meant actually something, but such a system only works when you have enough players to make it work.

[@markblkwth]

I love it when most of the floor is populated by people with levels below 100 and then some random shmuck with a level 400 character comes in.

[@LecorbakOfficial]

@@markblkwth you mean level 4000

[@haggisman0812]

If you play someone of equal skill, the chances of beating the celestial challenge is 10%. Absolute dogsht mechanic.

[@ricniclas]

I've always been a pretty chill player, but having the game kick me out of a good set because I failed the celestial challenge, only for it to make me watch a cutscene of me losing my rank and then putting me in an empty lobby is one of the worse experiences I've ever been through in a game

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

They removed that but the damage was done

[@SmotheryAxe1414]

Imagine a ranked mode that only had 10 ranks. Now skip 6 or 7 of those ranks because you beat the evaluation bot.

[@nvrmltice]

I don't even play strive but what gets me is the names of the floors. It looks like Ishiwatari picked random popular songs/bands/albums and called it a day. At least Stairway, Reing in Blood and maybe Future World sound like locations but you can easily change some names and still be metal af. For example, "Halls of Valhalla" instead of "The Hellion" for a Judas Priest reference or "Architecture of Aggression" instead of "Symphony of Destruction" for a Megadeth reference and so on.

[@James-yk5ge]

I feel like that last thing you said is such a good point and is a real reason strive online is very unpopulated, there are people of my skill online I JUST DONT KNOW HOW TO FIND THEM

[@nama8978]

We need a Rev update to Strive just to get rid of the terrible ranked and lobbies.

[@renann3]

I made it to the promotion matches after a long period not playing the game and went straight into a lobby with both Kazam and Hotashi. Immediately went back to the 10th floor, didn't even bother playing those matches

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

Yup lmao

[@Hotashi]

wut

[@renann3]

If Kazam replies to this, the comment is goated

[@XenfareSpades]

Why would you turn down an opportunity to play hotashi

[@renann3]

@@XenfareSpades because I'm not a young'un with tournament aspirations. I want to play good matches against people my level, getting better is a consequence, not the goal. It wouldn't be an interesting set for either of us

[@WantSomeWhiskey818]

I feel like I can understand why they made the lobbies this way, they probably looked at people playing Xrd and Blazblue in lobbies and not ranked which gave them the idea to make lobbies the ranked mode. But wow what execution, I remember seeing the Strive avatar reveals with the pixel art characters running around and thinking it was an April Fools joke. If it was a system like Battle Hub where its a spot with arcade cabinets where you can play unranked but have the option to queue into a ranked ladder, that would be infinitely better but of course hindsight is always 20/20 and maybe its unfair to compare Strive to a game that wasnt even revealed yet when it released but still.

[@pachoxtre2536]

Also remember that while doing the celestial challange you can discconect if you lose so it doesnt counts as a loss for thr challenge And this also aplies if the one you're fighting against decides to disconnect if you're winning so it doesnt count as a win for the challenge.

[@esaesaeesaesa]

It's crazy the tower is still the same from three years ago.

[@Lanzetsu]

Kind of true, that is why I almost always reject Celestial and stay on Floor10. To me some of the best moments is when I find some really good guy and rematch him for like 20 games and since I am losing most of them I go down 2 ranks and get thrown at Floor 8 but we can keep fighting lol. When I reach Floor 7 of losing THAT MUCH I stop and start playing normal games again (abusing people from 7 to 9 to climb again to Floor 10).

[@ZayZayZayZay]

It’s painful to be good enough to win 16 out of 20 matches on floor 10 but it mean nothing and not contribute to getting stronger opponents at all. Only for me to get to celestial win 2 sets then get knocked down cause I faced a level 2000 milia who smoked me.

[@RedMarzu]

I want to shout-out the arcade setup to challenge players being literally non-functional at times. Don't know if its just a US West thing but there's been so many moments where I'm trying to fight a willing participant and its just errors and failures to connects, either we talk to make a player lobby or one of us gives up. I get anime fighting games have some disadvantageous matchups but I'd rather have a actual random matchmaking to do all the work (like TEKKEN) than the current broken system filtering half my potential games. I've been accused of smurfing because I'm still level

[@LecorbakOfficial]

don't play on wi-fi, it'll work better, trust me.

[@apaleguy]

The floor system was a COOL idea if, IF like you've stated it was bronze vs bronze, silver vs silver, and etc. It put me on Floor 4 and I felt like I was up against someone that was a Celestial. I'm someone who is trying to take GGST serious if they just used the stats from the third party ELO site that way they can already use those statistics on user's and implement that data using the website API. Idk what they were thinking I know this game likes to be aesthetic but functionality over glamour and glory.

[@evekay33]

especially brutal this month when all my promo matches have been Slayer and I main a low-HP character :')

[@ToseRoyal]

The thing is I like the idea of the tower, like I see what the vision was. But the execution was completely off base, I wonder what would have improved it? Probably adding alot more floors, plus how many wins you need to go up a floor, plus the rules of going to qnd staying in Celestial just to start with.

[@Beans-do6wc]

the tower is absolutely terrible. the lobbies hardly work, floor 10 is most common for anyone "good" because celestial is so obnoxious. if you want to actually have good, fun matches just play in the park

[@TheNobleFive]

Remember: Always use "Wait in Training mode."

[@ZzigZaG00NIN]

Yup Hopping in and getting matches isn't as good as it could be

[@ATC43]

This shit is why I dropped this game. Was genuinely having fun as my first GG game but having to win 5/6 celestial matches was the stupidest thing ever. Totally agree with you Jiyuna.

[@Aeby2886]

When I quit Strive I was good enough to win on floor 10 without issue generally but had a fairly hard time in Celestial, so getting back in took a while each month Just oscillating up and down floors, or trying to pick matches in Celestial (looking for Potemkins) just so I could finally get in and THEN play whoever without having to worry all the time I never wanna see the butler telling me to go up and down ever again lol

[@bomb4r719]

I literally picked up fighting games for the first time 4 months ago and I'm at floor 10. Something ain't right here. I did really like the tower when I first started. The fact that you can challenge above your floor but not below was great, it kept me from being stomped while I was still learning the basics. I find the problem really is that there's not enough space Everyone is squeezed in to floor 10 where celestial players can come down to fight, so the whole point of the tower - that you can't challenge people below your skill level - is completely negated.

[@TheJackOfFools]

I love Strive, its my favorite of the current generation of fighting games, but the tower is trash. Hot garbo. And most frustrating is the solution is simple: keep the aesthetics of the tower but when you approach a station, it just plugs you into regular matchmaking if nobody joins the station in like 30 seconds. That way you still have the aesthetic idea of being in a room where you could meet up with friends and rivals but you aren't limited to a pool of 32 other people in one room.

[@andrewsanni2746]

Standby in training mode. It's never taken me more than five minutes to get a match in the park. I don't bother with the tower

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

Park matches even worse when it comes to the difference in skill pool

[@petergoodspieces130]

I personally love the tower system. In my opinion it makes for a stronger community feeling, because you can see everyone you've played with sitting at the cabinets Now yes I agree that there's a huge descreptency in terms of skill levels in every floor (especially in Celestial), but Its fun that you are given the option to play with either much better players and much worse you can pick your battles, which sounds terrible for a ranked mode since u can cheese it but in reality it isnt a ranked mode hte only leaderboards in strive are for matches won, not actual mmr and elo So noone actually cheeses their way into the top because there's no top to reach. I also think that dodging certain characters is fine, and being given that choice you can also pick who to go against which can help you get better at certain match ups. and Lastly , have you ever played vs someone in a fighting game and u wanted to run it back so much, but you couldnt unless the game rng put you two against eachother at random well in Strive you can keep remathing them all you want as long as they accept and you can go up to them in the lobby and ask them to play with you in a park to learn the mu. Oh and you can see and fight TOP level players which reminds me of offline events and makes me so glad that its an option because thats whats different about fighting games compared to other e-sports and its always fun to see that even top players are human just like everyone and you can match up against them, and that further strengthens the community aspect of the game imo. And thats why the floor system is my favourite fighting game online mode ever made (btw its better that they force everyone into it bcs it would suck if everyone was just using the auto search ranked and the lobbies where empty)

[@bradley2494]

Agreed with everything you said. You also can have friends in celestial who let you win. So even celestial doesn't always have "good" players. And there were times when I was in celestial but nobody else was on so I had to go back down and play on floor 10 anyways. But on top of all that the lobbies don't always properly function. You press the button to get into the match but there is some error and sometimes you just sit for like 30s-min unable to do anything after the error. Just very poorly designed lobbies.

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

Yes even in Celestial the skill gap is huge

[@guutenks2498]

Thats hilarious. I quit strive years ago because of the "rank" system. The fact that they havnt done anything to fix it since then is mind blowing.

[@illymns3339]

I remember the tweet throwing shade at this, like embarking on the month-long journey to reach celestial with box and then you reaching it an hour later lol

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

I got lucky on my promos, that’s all.

[@TheNobleFive]

I lucked out as a casual that plays this almost daily. I stopped actively trying to better myself in the game almost 2 years ago. I'm good enough to have fun in floor 9-10 but not good enough to reach the celestial challenge more than once in a blue moon. I "Wait in Training Mode" and skip the Dual Station Dance. Let the game find a functioning match. Still having a blast. 😂

[@renann3]

You know they're never going to fix this, it's been 3 years already. Maybe they could, but they chose to do the team mode which will totally still have players after the first month instead lol

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

Yeah I have no hope

[@krodmandoon3479]

I think my favorite thing about the tower is when there's an odd number of people there and you just have to sit and wait until someone finished three full sets and doesn't immediately rematch. You just can't play the fucking game unless there's an even number up at the top of the screen. Amazing.

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

I only do Training Mode matchmaking

[@krodmandoon3479]

@@ANIMEILLUMINATI I was told it puts you in a tower lobby anyway so I just did it manually

[@Cootsy]

It's complete garbage. I remember hard giving up on it when I ranked up from floor 10 like three times in a row and my next opponent to get into heaven was literally Leffen. It feels like between heaven and floor 10 there should be 5 more fucking floors.

[@Corran123]

The tower was one of the main reasons why I quit Strive during season 1. I'm just a random who wants to play a couple matches after work and the whole matchmaking system feels like such a waste of time. On the 10th floor you either get stomped or you do the stomping. Rarely did I have a balanced match. Back then you couldn't even see the ping beforehand and you had bad match after bad match due to Africans and Middle-Easterners queueing in Europe (and to be fair, they have no other choice because there's no connection based matchmaking).

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

Yupppp

[@icekiller1594]

I remember picking up strive for a bit getting bored af with it then coming back like 3 months later and within 2 hours of stepping foot into tower I was floor 9 knowing one combo with Anji and it clicked why everyone fucking hates this system

[@iamstylishaf12222]

As someone who doesn't know that much about fighting games, Guilty Gear Strive was my go to game when I decided to try out the genre. Obviously at the time I didn't know what made a good player, so I just cheesed my way through floors 5-9. I couldn't do shit in floor 10 since my Footsies are bad and I suck at being random (I was flowcharting at a copious degree because nobody in the lower floors knew how to adapt). I feel like I improved more playing in open lobbies than I ever did in tower. (I still haven't won a single match in floor 10 yet lol)

[@SuperCrakker]

I picked up GGST after getting into SF6 in a big way. Love the animations, love the music, love the characters, love the game systems. It was all great, but i dont play it anymore, becuase of the stupid ranked system. For me, you forgot to add no rank per character. I got good enough with Faust, but the moment i tried another character I couldnt even move on screen without getting perfected. Im sticking to SF6, and hoping for better in the next GG.

[@NanjiGames]

I quit strive for a bunch of small reasons that eventually added up and the rank system was one of them. Celestial promos are like the first part of Naruto's chunin exam. Insanely hard test to do legitimately but the rules are such that you're encouraged to cheat.

[@sleepfgc]

Wow that's a really good way to describe it.

[@bort262]

I left Strive because the tower was terrible. Distribution bad, matchmaking bad, servers bad. Ranked was a terrible experience

[@resioil1]

I’ve just settled I’m a floor 10 player until the next game. Even when I get promotion I immediately back out and go back to F10. There’s no point even trying lol

[@tabkg5802]

I'm torn on Strive and T8 being bottom 1 ranked. One is everything you described in this video, while the other punishes you more for losing to better players than losing to much weaker players + long queues + anti-mirror bs. Honestly both are prolly undisputed bottom 2

[@goby1764]

Said this like 2 years ago and I see Arcsys has still not done a thing.

[@ItsAZues]

I just mostly play on public park, lol.

[@LecorbakOfficial]

by the way, I have a friend that managed to go to celestial AND validate it. not because he's as good as leffen or anything, but because he spent a lot of time choosing his opponents against he had chances to win. and with a lot of luck and preparation, he succeeded. now that he is celestial, he stopped playing in celestial to evade being demoted.

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

Strategist

[@surrendering2within]

that hat is in celestial are the acid washy dad hats for sale?

[@Drovek451]

Ranked matchmaking not being independent of which floor-lobby you have is probably the biggest showstopper. The 32 player lobbies would otherwise be pretty much OK.

[@romzen]

I like Strive but the rank mode was so frustrating for me that there was hardly any point for me to play. I was either playing way weaker players or got demolished.

[@GAMERGUYXL]

Yup, haven't touched Strive ranked since SF6 came out. That game's ranked just works. I have a far better experience playing Strive with friends and at locals.

[@P_OmSa]

It's the main reason I stopped playing Guilty Gear Strive.

[@maticman94]

I haven't made it high enough to experience these issues lol. I wish the rankings were character specific too. The only place to try new characters is the park.

[@antant6217]

I'm someone who no-lifes enough to always maintain Celestial status without needing to do the challenge, but Celestial sucks. The skill disparity is ridiculous, ranging from people who lucked out into Celestial, players who dodge to preserve their precious rating on ratingupdate/only pubstomp, to literal pros. I'm someone who usually floats in the top 50 of players but it feels like I have to put in way too much work to find a balanced match. Having fun should not be busywork.

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

Yep, the game should be finding the good matches for you

[@avianben3910]

graaahhh its so frustrating, and then if you get kicked to floor 9, its the same problem bc good players get kicked down there all the time bc of the skill gap of all these players on 10

[@MadaraMikuSan]

I don't always agree with all your takes but I am 100% in agreement with you here. The worse part is that they've had 3 years to fix this and it's still terrible. If they want to keep the 5/6 celestial challenge it should at least take place on floor 10. Makes no sense that you have to do it on the celestial floor. So stupid.

[@LucasBriit0]

Strive was my first GG and I quitted after 1 month. SA lower floors were a ghost town

[@notayoutubeuser2627]

In that limbo situation where I know I'm more than capable of going higher than 10F ...only to be gatekept from Heaven and knocked back down by Daru-Ino and Big Leff :')

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

We all are...

[@NisekoiARG]

Agree, delete that horrible ranked mode and keep everyone at the park lobbies, i'd play25 hours a day if they do that

[@KenHayesVideos]

Daisuke's vision

[@lenardEkko]

the worst part is that ppl who are in their promotion matches scam their way in by alt+f4-ing when they are about to lose the match voiding it entirely (well they did that last time I played)

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

I don’t blame them

[@TalesofDawnandDusk]

I can't blame them for wanting to try something new. That's how we get progress. For all they knew, this would end up being the new ranked system that worked so well that everyone started copying it. Unfortunately for them, that's not how it worked out, it turned out to be a terrible idea and I can absolutely blame them for continuing in a practice that has proven to be severely lacking. Had the ranked system been changed to something sensible I probably would have played Strive consistently over the past couple of years. As it is, I find I'd rather spend my time with SF and Granblue.

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

If you want to try something new you have to be willing to make tweaks. They just threw it out and left it

[@TalesofDawnandDusk]

@@ANIMEILLUMINATI Exactly

[@kuroneko5463]

will a normal ranked mode even function well with a low playerbase?

[@henrytran2744]

I love strive, but every time I try to come back, I’m turned off by the online experience.

[@HollowG8]

The only two benefits we get out of this ranking system are: 1: More Rematches 2: Low Skill Discrepancy That second one is just for fun. Sometimes, it's fun to people of vastly different skill levels, but that's what casuals are for!

[@Ossuten]

You should go read the rules for Floor Masters and moving up ranks in HunterxHunter’s Heaven’s Arena arc. Then come back with the baffling question of why the devs thought it would be a good idea to base their online ranked matchmaking system off a shonen manga arc.

[@katsutama]

Destroy the damn tower! Cant believe its already season 4 for Strive. I quit the game at the beginning of season 1 and that Tower is the main reason. That system is the worst by far, really.

[@14zrobot]

ELO works well; wondering why fighters do not use it more. Win - get points; win against way lower-level receive +0. There will be an annoying period while numbers stabilize, but it is super easy to regulate after

[@purifyws]

occasionally I hear of someone who is in floor 5-6 or something and getting on fine with it, which makes me think perhaps they expected in all this that the core competitive people will be just a 1% they want to separate from everyone else as quickly as possible. That was like the main goal of the design maybe? heh, and I don't think it was even meant to be ranked. Filter out the sweats and let them languish What has happened though is I think that even with Strive doing VERY well, especially for a GG game, the casual numbers probably aren't high enough to still populate those lower floors well. And kinda like Jiyuna is saying here, even if the floors were spread out more evenly, it still would have several of the other problems. The intent though...yeah I think it was less "rise up and challenge yourself" and more "please get the sweats out of here". People that don't block might be on 10, but GG tryhards aren't on 9 or lower at all lol Not having an actual ranked mode could itself be a decision to move the game more towards an "everyone can enjoy this!" situation than locking it behind the sweaty curtain, which was the vibe all the previous games had to the outside. And hey if people can roll up to floor 10 just mashing, you can feel pretty sure ideally they shouldn't be there, but they might love it for themselves haha. "wow I never thought I would be a Guilty Gear player but now here I am on floor 10 with player names I know from streams!" ASW really did strive to build a bigger audience

[@moonbeam2730]

*DING* welcome back to floor 10, sir

[@thekingofburritos3279]

I think it was a cool idea conceptually but in practice its ass.

[@raz54rus]

It's funny how a fan made online mode for XX #Reload had better ranking system than Strive.

[@RealKatTea]

I'd honestly take KOFXV's ranked mode on launch than the one GG:S has. The less fighting games I play the more I get to do matchmaking on twitter.

[@imarock.7662]

I wouldn't even have that much of a problem with it if we could move through all floors freely.

[@AdamJorgensen]

The experience below floor 10 also sucks. There are enough players but the way ranking and deranking works is really destroys my motivation. It feels like the game goes out of its way to make you feel shit for deranking and that sucks. I've made it to 9 a bunch of times but I'm a mediocre to bad player and getting dumped down a floor after a few bad matches does not make me want to play more. Much prefer the ranked system in SF6, T8 and GBVSR. Losing points doesn't feel nearly as bad and I think part of it is because there is a much wider point range to work with so you have more chances to even out your ranked losses. Strives system feels like a version of SF6 were the total points before Masters is 100 and you gain 2 points for every win and lose 3 for every loss. It feels bad because it is bad.

[@MrCactuar13]

I really wanted to love Strive but they never fixed this rank system and there's still no frame data in training mode? Daisuke what are you doing

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

He’s retired